@@LGC14 nothing at all lol it's just cause his power is vision based, aka "gaze" based, so it fit well also I really just wrote out the joke that happens around 4:25 in the vid, so it ain't even my idea
Momo's power is honestly funnier if her costume opened from the back instead of the chest. Like she just randomly reaches behind her back and pulls out something that was definitely not behind her back
my biggest issue with uraraka’s sidelining is that she and iida were first shown with deku as the main trio but then both were sidelined for bakugo and todoroki with deku edit: I dont wanna delete this but this opinion isnt held anymore (i mean it is slightly but not nearly as much and more so towards Iida cause his ass was sidelined)
how are they easier to use like i can see the popularity but at the same time if iida and uraraka had remained apart of the main trio they mightve been more popular
@@MyNameIsNotSteve their powers are more flashy,that's mostly it, how cool are explosions and ice and fire compared to what they got? If you wanna create hype its easier to use the ones that actually have something to use for hype.
@@andrewacacia9851 i see ur point but Iida can easily generate hype too cause his is also pretty flashy (not as flashy as bakugo or todoroki): giant flames coming out his legs and while uraraka doesnt have something visually flashy her quirk allows for more unique combat rather then what todoroki or bakugo offer on another note just because a character is more popular or “easier to use” (which is a dumb way to put it uraraka and iida arent difficult to use but i understand what ur saying) doesnt mean that the main trio should be switched up in aot Levi is super popular but he isnt part of the main trio neither is gojo in jujustu kaisen or kakashi in naruto they remain close to the group but they dont take over as a member of the main trio
Part of the reason Iida is one of my favorite characters is cause he felt disgusted and appalled by Mineta trying to spy on the girls cause he genuinely respects the fact that the girls shouldn’t be objectified. Iida is a good boy and I like that.
@leo Yeah, it's easy to see that Horikoshi empathizes with Mineta's POV, but I appreciated Iida's reaction being emphatically against doing anything to make his female classmates feel embarrassed or objectified since he said it and meant it. Cause in a lot of other anime/manga they have a person says they aren't in favor of objectifying their female friends but show that they're just as lusty and want to. I was proud of Iida for being too respectful to even consider violating any of his friends' privacy.
@@Nightman221k but the sad thing is, what you just described is just the bare minimum. it feels almost dystopian to see people actually *relieved* or prideful when a character they like respects/empathises with women or is repulsed by perverted actions, but it's the sad truth even in this day and age. :(
The worst part about mineta is that he didn't even get bullied, he was just jealous that some other guy in his class was more popular with women than him. Could you imagine your primary motive for becoming a hero beimg that you wanted to prove some twitter user who ssid L + no bitches wrong? Cause that's mineta. That's his character
Didnt get bullied ? You didnt watch show from what I can see. He literally gets a electricity chair for a Christmas gift and forced to sit on it. You think thats fair or funny? If the answer is yes then you are worse then Mineta ))
You know what sucks especially about Momo's hero costume? The original concept sketch that the mangaka came up with really wasn't that bad. Like, it was actually a sports bra that completely covered her chest up past the neck, leaving the back open. And then a high-wasted bikini-type bottom w/ s normal belt and knee-length boots. It was the editors(?) that told him to change into something more "appealing."
i once saw a redesign of momo which changed her outfit to a more proper dress/bodysuit type thing that was just covered in zippers on her arms and legs and back that she could open to reveal some skin for her power (probably not doing the description justice since im going off memory) but im so sad that's not the actual design cuz it was so cool
momos costume is no way even practical in any sense. velcro, buttons, zippers, they all exist. and that dumb belt thing?? it doesn’t look good, it doenst add anything, i don’t get it. and why does she have a weird book thing on her butt??? again: NOT PRACTICAL. she could’ve gotten a smart watch or an eye thing or smart-glasses that have info on them. the heels ofc are a bad thing. the whole outfit is bad. and i haven’t seen anyone talk about this before but has anyone noticed the weird and diffrent way they draw girl charcaters running opposed to boy characters running??? even when the girl character is way stronger or faster or older than the boy character??? and ofc there’s ALWAYS heels. can people stop putting girls in heels when they’re supposed to run jump and do stuff that requires a lot of footwork???
Oh my god, you're so right about Mina. She was my favorite character when I started reading the manga, it was so cool how she dealt with that trenchcoat dude, and... that's pretty much it. The author has a bad habit of making cool characters, giving them a cool moment, and then benching them. It feels to me like he's sincerely trying to include female characters but his desire to tell a story about manly men keeps taking over.
Mina deserves so much better… such a cool quirk and interesting set up to explore her character but ultimately… not much. Also, I totally agree re: introduction -> cool moment -> sidelines, it seems to be Horikoshi’s pattern with his female characters. It’s super frustrating!!
@@LadyIneia it's sexist in a nice way cause of the modern times the author made sure the cast was overly likeable so the series gets away with it...the sexism is still there....the writing barley cares about them or uses them....otherwise omg...20 years ago they would be less nice and 10 years ago people would rage about it more so ...cause no one cared back in 2000 but then internet forums post sharing social media became a thing...now people care more....so you have to tiptoe around that and make everyone have nice characterization...good you still noticed it.....if your going to be sexist at least write an interesting narrative and my hero can't even do that right saldy so the sexism sticks out more...otherwise we can forgive it and get distracted talking about other things we like...I don't even care about sexism much but it's so blatant in my hero that the author hates writing females with depth....it's a shame cause it's fans promote it like it's different and it appeals to people who care about that stuff...if only it did not have a fanbase like that we could look past it
@@razkable this is why Marvel and DC are better I love anime with all my heart but the main issue I have with it is that so many shonen have terrible female characters this is why Western comics do female characters Justice comic books are failing while manga is winning but to this day I still stand with the comic book industry cuz have been creating female Heroes for decades
In Bakugou vs Ochaco fight, Bakugou & Aizawa were the only two people taking her seriously. Every other character shamed Bakugou for being harsh with Ochaco because Ochaco is a girl. Ochaco herself said she wanted people to take her seriously & was happy when Bakugou did. Bakugou himself said she wasn't weak that's why he put up a good fight. It shocks me how there are a lot of female heros in mha but when Bakugou fights Ochaco seriously, they all started calling him abusive ☠as a girl, I would rather lose fairly in a fight then someone piting me & going easy on me.
Wasn't that shit mistranslated, It was never supposed to be sexualization. It was a statement that was mistranslated and sounded even worse coming outta Mineta's mouth because.... well... he's Mineta
@@elongatedmanforever1252 Yeah he is awful but that doesn't change the fact that he's pretty well written and is also one of the most competent member of the class as the only person with a 5/5 intelligence stat only beaten by momo with her 6/5. His Hype moments are also really good, People just tend to hate him for his pervertedness and ignore the rest of his character. He's a coward but can get stuff done when he needs to
The "they need to be half naked for their powers to work" excuse falls apart in MHA when you like at Mirio. His quirk allows him to phase his body through solid objects, but not whatever he's wearing. And while this is used for some comedic relief when he's first introduced, when we get to the serious part of the arc, it's shown he has a specially made costume that incorporates his hair, allowing him to use his powers freely while staying fully clothed. If you can have a work around like that, why is half the female cast be half naked? Edit: The point I'm making is less "use hair suits for momo and toru" it's "the mangaka has shown that they're willing and able to make work arounds for male characters to keep them clothed, but not female characters." If Horikoshi really cared about practicality, he could invent a reason why they could stay clothed enough, because mha is a sci-fi series that takes place 80 years in the future. That's how writing and world building works. It's shameless fanservice Horikoshi is hiding behind a flimsy excuse. And the flimsy excuse annoys more more than the fanservice itself. Edit 2: How to make invisible clothing from invisible hair: Use washable dye on hair, cut hair, weave strands into suit, wash out dye. Boom! Invisible suit and that's not accounting for any sci-fi tech or quirks that would make the process easier.
I hadn’t thought of that as a counter example from within the show but you’re so right!! Like why not use Momo’s hair in her costume so she can pass objects through her clothes and therefore have a more armored outfit like??? Very frustrating lol.
@@LadyIneia Or make a hair suit for Invisible Girl so she’s not literally naked at all times! I know we can’t see it, but that can’t be comfortable or practical!
@@teapartypenguin1353 She was even stated to be freezing in the winter towards the end of the anime. It made no sense for her and the other girls not to develop their costumes more.
I was so mad when I realized they were basically abandoning Uraraka’s plot because I really fell in love with her character during her fight with bakugo
I loved her tenacity but was really wondering what her plan was if she managed to touch him. She kept reaching for him, but Bakugo had already demonstrated his ability to zoom through the air like a mini jet.
@@prosepeony I don’t remember exactly but I think it was more of a distraction to keep him focused on her so she could create the meteor shower at the end to try and take him out, if she managed to touch him that was probably just a nice addition yk. Making him float would mean he wouldn’t be able to use his power without also blasting him out of the ring.
@@KazzathanOh, it does make sense that she was trying to make him float inside the cluster of rocks since that would limit his options. He definitely defies physics with his explosions though.
@@prosepeony oh totally. Even if he wasn’t floating using his explosions should make him fly away with the kickback but that’s just anime logic lol. I’m not complaining tho MHA does more than most anime’s to try and give an in universe explanation for their abilities
God, the uraraka section struck me because for the longest time I was absolutely convinced that her lack of anything resembling development was a deliberate thing to hide her status as the UA Traitor. I was convinced that Horikoshi was a genius and that once Uraraka was revealed to be the traitor she would be given so much development that would cement her as the best female character in the show I was... not correct. The sidelining got so much worse, its crazy.
You know what could have redeemed the concept of Mineta without changing literally anything about him? Don’t provide gratuitous shots of his harassment. Just imply to show how depraved he is. Make a point to show how hateable him and his behavior is but don’t give the viewer the objectifying views. When he is used as a bad example for viewers and the rest of the characters don’t tolerate that behavior, it could show the audience that people who behave like that are actually the worst
@@camrenmugabe3062 are you defending him? He can be a pervert and not be strictly a villain. Ironically, the villains in this show tend to treat women better than Mineta does, so do with that what you will
@@tylerwebb2495 No I was just trying to think of a solution to have Mineta be a character that will appear to have a purpose in the story without having him be just comedic relief. Mineta sexually harassing the girls that he trains and fights with is not heroic.
@@camrenmugabe3062not necessarily. Showing and depicting bad behavior ranging from bakugo to straight up illegal isn't a bad thing, unless it's being encouraged or tossed aside as a joke. Like the commenter said, they could keep mineta being a perverted loser to some degree, but show more than the girl's disgust as their reactions only add to the trope. Maybe have the guys purely ignore him, or actively hold him hostage rather than encouraging him like kaminari. Show he's a gross character-not just by physical appearance (mainly cuz that only adds to the idea that attractive people can be creeps without being considered creeps, which is still gross) but by direct and indirect dialogue/reactions. Maybe they could use that as a building block, where he realizes quickly that everyone else is maturing while he's still focused on boobs; he loses friends (of he has any) as the story progresses, classmates straight up ignore him, he's not invited to little hangouts, etc. And because he refuses to focus on being a hero, he's either nearly kicked out from UA/Yuuei or during some training thing, he realizes his skills are far behind everyone else's. He can't keep up and repeatedly fails. Perhaps then he could be an interesting character-theres nothing wrong with having a sexuality, but there is a problem with sexual harassment. He could possibly realize an actual goal he has for becoming a hero, probably something actually cool and ironic like saving children/people from r@pe related situations, being the exact opposite of who he was. And this is just me being the lackluster writer I am, I don't think him being hit with a gender swap quirk or being dressed up as a girl only to experience harassment would work. That, or a gay character harassing him. Neither example would work efficiently, one would simply be hypocritical and the other...kinda selfish that he has to experience harassment as a "girl" to understand why it's bad. Also, m*neta isn't competent enough to be a villain. He's far too pathetic for that.
I think I know what you’re saying. It’s like on The Magic Schoolbus when Carlos gives a bad joke and the class goes “Caaarlooos!” It’s like that on MHA. Mineta does a creepy bit and the class just goes “Minetaaaa!” *laugh track, fades to black*
Thoughts: • Even as a straight guy, I get a little tired of the gratuitous sexiness. • Mineta's terribleness might not be infuriating if he were actually punished. Sure, he gets bopped on the head, or forcibly restrained a few times, but it's always played off as a harmless joke. He can't keep getting away with it! • The Bubble-Girl predicament is mega weird and I wish it didn't exist.
Gotta agree here, I feel like this appeals less to straight-malss and more to just weird people in general. I'd be fine with the bubble girl thing if they tied up everyone to a tickle machine, I think I'd be funnier that way.
Midnight weirded me out at times, like having some sort of sexual thoughts towards her students working together. I'd feel like if the genders were reversed, the double standards would come in.
@@randomslayer9018 "Weird people". This is the definition of Japanese people. Trust me, they don't look like it when you don't know them but once you do, they truly are... Not everyone ofc but lots of them.
What makes me mad even more is that Ururaka HAD potential. With the knowledge that she’s in the hero business for money to help her parents who struggled financially and her abilities are pretty impressive with how she applies them. Then we get so little about her right after. Just… ugh…
Some people were mad that she mainly wanted to be a hero for money, even though it was for a completely unselfish reason. However, Bakugou only wanting to be a hero to show off his quirk is encouraged
That's right! I thought she would be a main, along with Ida! I really like Todoroki and Bakugo is a given, he is clearly important but why do those two (espesially Uraraka) get almost 0 screen time?
@@jevil_owo People got mad about it?? She literally explained a second later after revealing she's doing it for money that she's doing it for her broke family and we even get a flashback to it. Wtf is wrong some people?
The author openly admitted that uruaka was supposed to have a flashy and cool quirk… not just float then he realizesd, “it was too much for a main heroine.” WTF
I'm pretty sure she was supposed to have Mt lady's quirk but then horikoshi changed it to the zero gravity quirk because "it would've shadowed the main boys" or smth like that.
@@dentonmccray8691 Deku's character is literally about putting in the hard work and time to succeed even if you're at a disadvantage compared to your peers, why would her having a flashier quirk be a problem??
@@100organicfreshmemes5when did I say it was a problem? I'm just saying, doesn't make all to much sense for a character that pretty much has nothing to do with the main story to be stronger than the mc
I think LavenderTowne redesigned Momo’s custom as like a ballerina inspired two piece cloth that lifts when she spins to give her bare skin to create objects. I absolutely loved that design as it gave more to her elegant and wealthy background rather than just man-service.
YUS LAVENDERTOWNE!!! I also watched that video and loved that design! Edit: Wait, I have 100 likes?? I know people get, like, 2K a lot but to everyone who liked this, this means a lot, thank you!
@@rattersworld1016 exactly why I prefer basically everything from the zipper design (but not the arms, there’s no reason to have two differencing styles unless it’s easier to zip one off while the other one is for more practicality or something)
uraraka reminds me of sakura from naruto a lot, who has her strong and powerful moments, but ultimately she is "just a girl" and most male characters get to shine a lot more than her despite her being part of the main three at the beggining.
it's a "shounen" its literally aimed at male audience...I'm not tryna offend anyone but that's what it falls under...there's other genre with females under the spotlight, like shoujo or maybe some isekai
@@rohanjoethomas5806 the target audience being boys doesn't excuse sexism. It's normal that the genre will define what kinds of characters will get the most screentime but that doesn't mean that the shows should treat all the other cast as unimportant and write them poorly. It's bad writing regardless of who is supposed to watch it. The point of showing the sexism in BNHA isn't to say that females should be in the spotlight, but to show that the series doesn't care about female characters AT ALL. The goal isn't to make every piece of media center women or be absolutely equal about who it focuses on, that's an extreme way of looking at the issue. The goal is to make sure that women in popular media, like shounen anime, are not reduced to just eye candy or other tropes because that sort of thing reflects on our society even if its a silly action anime about powerful teens.
I'm not sure if she needs to be a warrior when she can rely on her quirk and create weapons from that, although learning fighting skills like aizawa wouldn't hurt. Her costume is fine to me, but I'd think a sports bra would work better.
@@ProjektTaku She definitely needs specific training to use the weapons she creates. Sure she can make a whole military arsenal, but she has no proper training to use any of it. With the clothes she wears, she definitely cant use melee weapons effectively. Her footwork would be inconvenienced by her weird pantsless skirt, her top limits her torso movement and really serves no purpose other than showing off her assets, and she has no protection at all.
@@futurestrongestman honestly feel a bit ridiculous to have such a strong reaction for her design when almost all their costume don't make sense when you think about it. look at bakugo, the guy literally has bricks as a collar, he shouldn't even be able to turn his head. kirishima has wheels around his shoulders, can't even imagine moving with that. iida wears a fucking armor, why would he wear something that makes him slower when his speciality is speed. and mineta's.. pants ? diaper ? don't even know what that is.
The sad thing about Horikoshi's writing is that with the Uraraka vs. Bakugo he's proved he IS capable of writing good female characters. He just doesn't want to. He gives us that one scene making us think there'll be more like it, and then never again.
Ikr. I rlly want someone to make a really good, developed unsexalised female character that's useful and strong. As a girl myself, it rlly annoys me when people underplayed female characters especially when they have a lot of potential
@@hibakhan692 unfortunately not. Its been a while ever since I watched animation of any kind. My memory's really foggy, only characters from ATLA come to mind. Katara, Toph, Kyoshi etc. 😅
I also find it ironic that male authors treat their female characters this way but get puzzled when fans start shipping two male characters that actually had development together (I’m looking at you naruto)
I see this with fans too. They hate the people who ship the main gay ship (aka the only two characters with any kind of personality) but when you ask them why they ship the canon het ship it always boils down to “because it’s canon”. These female characters aren’t love interests, they’re accessories.
Maybe they ship the canon ship because. Its just canon its the way it is so to speak. Also i dont think a lot of shonen watchers really care about romance. I know i sure dont care about it
When i heard the mineta hate, i physically jumped out of my chair and cheered out loud. i WILL use mineta as a basketball if i ever see him in real life.
“Lust” from Fullmetal Alchemist is the perfect example of a sexy female character done right. She’s in full control of her sexuality and knows when to use it to her advantage AND she’s dangerous. She’s not some submissive shy girl who was given revealing clothes for the male gaze.
Another thing is that we actually get a moment at the start of the series where the female costumes are pointed out, when Uraraka mentions that the costume makers made hers too tight and gave her heels for literally no reason. And then it's just brushed off like it didn't happen, none of the girls change their costumes and the fan-service and objectification continues.
And her costume designer is revealed to be a woman, but I am not excusing that because Uraraka's costume still looks like ass shit aside her equipment (wrists and ear pieces). What was Uraraka's original costume idea??
@@GhostbyTv Her original hero design would've looked adorable. Why would her designer make her suit skin tight and give her heels? From what I heard from one of the comments of this video, the skin tight suit would make the nausea worse and doesn't Uraraka need ankle mobility for her feet? And what the hell was the point of the belt??
this is why thirteen's costume is one of the only good female hero costumes. shounen writers need to learn that you don't have to be able to see every part of a woman/girl's body, even if their outfit is supposed to be "practical for combat".
Honestly, the fact that Shonen is aimed at young boys makes it even more important to present well rounded Women characters. Young boys are bombarded with poor portrayals of women and every chance to fight that is valuable.
Agree to disagree I feel like Shonen should imbrace proper representation but there not babysitting. Side note I feel like most people in MHA is sideline because of power difference. Example Overhaul arc was dealing with heavy hitters that likely won't push the female(student) cast without either easily defeating or relying on help.
i dont think shonen is really aimed at young boys just saying that like One Piece, Naruto and Dragon Ball arent that good either or any other shonen i know
i got an update for you Shonen isnt aimed for young boys its aimed for younger male people meaning teenager and young adults too so if its aimed for male people zthey dont need to do it for the youngest one they can do it for teenagers if they want to so your argument isnt really good
I've definitely read too many fanfic. When you mentioned you don't like Mt lady, I was like "man I love her charecter." Then I remembered I got her mixed up with fanfic depictions where she actually has a place in the story
I have that with a lot of characters, especcially Ochako. She doesn't get enough screentime to be a cool rescue hero. And the most intresting part of her canon depiction is her being Toga's character foil.
Oof. Yeah sometimes I tend to mix up characters with how they are in cannon with how they are in fan fiction occasionally as well. So I know how ya feel.
One of the worst things the story has done to Uraraka was that her original motive of supporting her family ends up taking a backseat to her newfound desire of trying to be like Deku. Out of all of the characters, Uraraka's motivation felt the most realistic and relatable. Even Deku points out that her goal is more grounded than anyone else's, and that she's not trying to live out some "hero fantasy" like the rest of them. She just wants to support her family, like many people in real life who get jobs purely with that goal in mind. But for whatever reason, after the Sports Festival arc, it became less and less about supporting her family, and more and more about being like "dream boy protagonist". This is not helped by the fact that she and Ida take a major backseat as Todoroki and Bakugo are pushed more and more into the spotlight. Plus, I think its deeply depressing that Uraraka's most defining moment as a character, without any help from anyone else, was her losing to Bakugo. It's not the fact that she lost that bothers me, but it's the fact that she's never had a moment like that again. A moment where she goes all out, by herself, against an extremely strong opponent.
Wut, Ochako literally can't do anything about her family situation until after she's already become a pro. She isn't getting any money as a student. Being the best hero she can be until she makes it her profession, thats the goal, her admiring Deku and taking after him will only make her better and does not erase her long term dream.
You're confusing a character respecting and admiring another with them completely revolving around that said character. That is not the case with Uraraka cuz she respects deku alot but she also focuses on her goals and still has great development.
She’s not trying to be like Deku: more like she’s taking inspiration from him. There’s a big difference and it’s not only her I mean look at the provisional exam when Momo and the others were in the building; when Momo couldn’t decide what to do she remembered what Deku said and changed her focus on helping her classmates pass. Uraraka is not trying to be like Deku that’s why in the sports festival she denied his help because she wants to be independent and use her own mind. Also you make it sound like the only reason why she became a hero is to help her parents. Yes in the long run she’s going to work for her parents but Uraraka likes to help others too.
1) yes agree with you Urarakas character had been reduced to "Deku love interest/fangirl". Not to say that's all she is now, definitely not, shes still one if the nest best female if the shield and anime in general bc she is her own person, complex, likeable etc... BUT most of here relevance and motivation has become increasingly Deku centred and I *HATE* IT! its actually is the main reason why i cant ship Izuku and her, because its literally degenerating her character 2) and dont worry Urarakas next big moment (that has NOTHING) to with Izuko is coming soon, and many soon after. Which us why i maintain that she is still a great main character, but it also should notve taken this long, also aloy of her growth is covered in the manga only and even there it's just a sideways 'just by the way' kind if thing. So she will and has grown bc of that fight but it's not the focus if her or the story and it does irk me
You know what could have been an AMAZING side-plot/form of world building? How heroes such as Midnight, Mt Lady, and even Momo feel pressure to showcase their bodies for popularity. It could honestly be a really mature way to tackle this subject, whilst having consistency! Heck, Hawks gives fanservice because he KNOWS it’ll make him more popular. What about the women?
They did have a side chapter about this actually. Midnight doesn't showcase her body for popularity, she does it because her exposed skin is required to release her quirk, which is why her original costume was so scandalous and required the officials to enforce stricter regulations on hero costumes as a result. Mt. Lady, meanwhile, thinks that Midnight pushes things too far which increases the pressure on "younger" heroes to keep up. This resulted in a fight. As for Momo, this was actually a part of her storyline during the Internship / Hero Killer arc, wherein she was scouted by a pro not for being talented, strong, etc. but because she was a cute girl and spent the entire week as her personal assistant, and was forced to start in a shampoo commercial. She spent her time trying desperately to think of a deeper lesson that she was missing and has not returned to that agency in the aftermath, or spoken of that hero. This contributed to her inferiority complex which she came out of during the exam arc, when Todoroki revealed that he placed a high enough value on her mental faculties that he voted for her as Class Rep.
@@flamemasterelan Which all goes to waste as Momo's biggest contribution to the series is sticking a tracker on something. What a character arc am I right?
@@flamemasterelan This isn't what they were asking for. They wanted arcs that had the balls to actually make this the point of focus. Not a side element that appears new and intelligent for shounen, but comes off as transparent when Horikoshi continues to shallowly exploit and degrade the girls for laughs without ever getting any deeper.
This video is 3yrs old but I always come back to it when I’m studying or cleaning. I think it would be really cool if u revisited this topic especially with how far the anime is and now that the manga has ended. I think some things have definitely stayed the same (Mineta, how the girls are treated in fandom spaces etc) but arcs like Uraraka and Toga have honestly surprised me so much and I didn’t expect that
The thing that drives me crazy about the “it’s necessary for their powers” argument for Momo and Midnight is Mirio. We have a whole scene explaining that when he uses his power he ends up butt naked. BUT lucky for him they somehow made a usable fabric out of his HAIR so that that doesn’t have to happen. If they can use crazy logic to keep Mirio clothed, the could have for the girls. But you know, Mirio is a guy.
exactly i've been saying for ages now that self healing polymers are a thing in real life so why couldn't momo and midnight make their skinsuit things out of that and maybe some small metal claws to cut it for use before it seals back up, add on to that momo's magician work study teacher she could lean into the magician angle with the long flowy cloak and sleeves giving her creations a kind of slight of hand vibe, and midnight could maybe use a small body armor with gas compressors or whatever built in so she can do a similar thing to bakugos gauntlets but full body like there are ways to make this work
What annoys me is that they didn’t need even need to go to those lengths. Unlike Mirio, Momo and Midnight’s quirks fall under the “produce something” category. Almost everyone with quirks in the “produce something” category do the producing through their hands. We even have a one-off character Mustard whose quirk is virtually _identical_ to Midnight’s (the gas is even the same color!) who manages to be fully clothed, gloved, and even has a damn gas mask on.
@@WhitePaintbrush excellent point I'd honestly blanked on mustard existing entirely, however I will say with momo's love for cannons and large objects in general, an option for her abdomen or something might be good just for surface area I would suggest her back but I feel like that'd be a little awkward to maneuver what she creates into place
Mirio's entire body is able to phase, so it makes sense that using part of his body's DNA, his hair, in his suit can allow it to phase with him. It wouldn't make sense with Momo, because she doesn't phase anything, she creates objects with her fat. That being said, in Midnight's case I'm sure Hatsume or someone could make a fabric that allows her quirk to seep through but well it's her personality to be femme fatale like Catwoman or Black Cat
Actually Midnight's is just that she's a freak, and Momo can only create things from her actual body, hair is dead cells and if it were cut off and sewn into a fabric it wouldn't make a difference
Something that also annoys me is whenever the girls are involved, they are always told to help with rescuing or support. I know Uraraka and maybe some others want to be rescue heroes, but theres no way that all of them want to! And whenever they do get to fight they do like zero damage and get knocked out immediately
The only female hero that was actually very strong and pro-active in fighting in that sense was Mirko in 6th season and I’m still so pissed about that. She was so fucking strong she could be fighting along the top heroes and be extremely helpful, but they won’t give any female characters actual significant development and participation
Yeah there are very few female heroes given quirks suited to straight on fighting, like some are super powerful but more suited to more strategic and support kinda stuff like Momo and Uraraka, just let the girls be strong!! That's why Mirko was such a breath of fresh air for me, she's just destroying Nomu's left and right and took out like half of that lab that took multiple other powerful heroes including Endeavor to clean up the rest of it, I really hope she gets more screentime later on.
0:24 unfortunately. this happens. i say that from personal expirence. in 8th grade my class used to have a 19 guys and 5 girls . and it wasnt the best expirience .
Something worth noting is the interview where it looks like Mt Lady and Midnight are gonna talk about their sexy costumes. Basically, Midnight starts off with a good point, but then Mt Lady interrupts just to insult Midnight and it just turns into this weird catfight (also I think it ends with a shot of Mineta very much enjoying the interview...)
I forgot about that! How annoying for them to almost make a good point and then do a catfight lol. I definitely used that clip but didn't even think about the original context it was in. Wild. Thanks for watching and sharing!
One thing I hate is how the girls react to Mineta harassing them and touching them. They just get embarrassed and annoyed and then brush it off. They don't think about it afterwards, they don't feel uncomfortable going to class, they don't have nightmares or flashbacks, they just forget about it. That happens in other shows as well, not just MHA and it is so harmful for male viewers and invalidating for female viewers.
YES OMG THAT IS SO IMPORTANT!!!!!THESE WERE ALWAYS MY THOUGHTS AND THAT THIS WOULD ALSO SAY SOMETHIBG TO MEN AND BOYS. and i was right most boys really think its nothing that serious you think aboit every second you encounter a male. They toll me myself, and that actually just makes me scared more....
God now I wanna see a Shounen where they introduce a character who seems like he'll be the resident pervert and catalyst of fanservice, but there's an arc dedicated to how his actions harm the girls around him and how they band together to get him booted. Consequences! Of! His! Actions!! Maybe there could even be reflections from the other guys about how they hadn't really questioned how complicit they were, and how they'll strive to be more thoughtful in the future
Yeah I get that it’s for humor and fanservice, everyone knows him as the class pervert so he’s whatever and that’s his usual actions but even that can be harmful to people’s minds making then think it’s okay to harass people. Imagine little kids imitating the main character of their favorite movie after they watch that movie.
Mineta is the most disgusting character I have seen. This is because I myself relate to the clip where you showed Mineta sexualizing a 6 year old. I was sexualized in a similar manner when I was very young in the community that I was born in by boys who were early to late teens. It was horrifying because as I child I didn't understand the jokes or intentions and I was taken advantage because of it. It is scary, traumatizing and very dangerous if not put a stop to.
@@tienluong9648 how? zenitsu doesn’t touch girls inappropriately without their consent, and he isn’t constantly thinking about their bodies in a s3xuaI way either.
Dang how people still don’t get that shit was a translation error?If you want to hate him that’s fine,but don’t go on Unfairly demonizing him like that lol.
Your video PERFECTLY adress my point of view on fanservice, the difference between sexual objectification and sexual comedy or empowerment, and sexuality vs sexualization. You raised valid points especially pointing the one with male fanservice and how it is portrayed compared to female fanservice. And personnaly I'd like to add that this doesn't just appear in anime but video games too and I motly stand against it for the sake of women decency and men's mental health. great video 👍
I just realized, while the students have a "better" balance of girls to boys ratio, the same can't be said for the adults. It's mostly male heroes as major characters, what women there are all are side characters. A staggering amount of whom end up dead or de-powered.
ok but can we talk about midnights costumes? you can already tell that hirokoshi does NOT know how boobs work. especially with the chain thingy that separates her boobs. just looking at the contraction makes me physically cringe. that looks like a medieval torture weapon, not a costume made for fighting villains.
The problem with Minata is not per se that he treats women like objects, but that this is treated as a joke and not more strongly condemned in the show. I hate him, and the other characters should as well. He has value if he can be used to demonstrate how terible he is, and how much he should truly be disliked. Honestly, his incel behavior is enough for him to be a minor villain.
@@siilverREAL Okay, so spoilers for season 6: ... There's a traitor in class 1-A, and when my sister told me that she heard from season 7 spoilers that it wasn't Minetta, I was sad.
What makes this problem worse is that his behavior is used as an excuse to titillate the audience. *We are exclusively invited to see things from the sex offender's point of view.*
it's a tactic called 'lampshading'. Horikoshi deliberately uses Mineta to call out sexual harassment and objectification towards his female characters and 'condemn' them by having Mineta be comically punished over and over. However, Mineta is never outcasted for his behaviour. The boys 'dont claim him' and the girls report him for his behaviour, showing that, to an extent, the writer doesn't condone the behaviour of Mineta, however he is still a part of the class, never properly punished, never changes and is therefore enabled by his environment to continue being a sleaze. His behaviour IS treated as a joke, and I wish he WERE a minor villain OR there was a villain that reflects Mineta's behaviour and forces him to grow beyond his current ideals. The fact that the manga takes his sexual perversion and makes it his 'goal' and says 'welp I guess people are motivated by all different kinds of things! The ends justify the means I suppose (ie as long as he takes down bad guys, he's 'allowed' to be a pervert as some sort of treat)' It's disappointing behaviour. That said, I do enjoy the female characters in the manga but more particularly fan interpretations of the characters - the fanfics I've read do the characters so much more justice to the interesting and cool women Horikoshi has written. Also side note - the fact that the women in the manga are treated as pieces of meat seen in Midnight's explanation of her hero costume and it's just treated as an 'accepted' thing as opposed to something the characters should be working against is also disappointing. Seeing Momo being so uncomfortable during her training with the snake lady because she was used as a marketing tool, and having her BUY INTO IT (' I GUESS THIS IS PART OF THE JOB AND WHAT IT TAKES, SO ILL DO MY BEST!!') as opposed to fighting against it is AGH!!
As a character designer, I also hate how most of the female characters have much more low-effort designs. Like, so many of the men have creative accommodations and costumes that tell you something about their character, but it feels like so much less thought was put into the women’s. Momo is by far the worst example but even Uraraka has this problem. She’s just kinda a bodysuit with shapes on it? Why isn’t her costume baggy, especially since tight clothing makes nausea worse and an astronaut theme would have given her design some interest? Why are her wrist thingies with the wire in them just shaped like bubbles? Why does she have *half a helmet* in some iterations? Why is she wearing shoes with no ankle mobility? What the hell is her belt?? It just seems like so little thought was put into it compared to all the male characters. Sexualization so clearly comes first.
what's the point of deku having a mask if he's never gonna wear it ? why does he have little bags around his belt, ever seen him using it ? why does bakugo have a brick collar with no neck mobility ? why does kirishima have fucking wheels around his shoulder ? what the hell is mineta's diaper ? why would iida wears an armor when his ability is speed ? if you're a character designer why do you only notice the problems from female characters ?
@@kinoo4496 Pockets are always useful, I don't think having the ability to carry small things with you needs a deep justification. Deku's mask has little to no functional use, but it's something his nerdy self designed after All Might. It's mentioned several times. It's relevant to his character, not at all a random bit of visual clutter that was tacked on without any thought. Iida wearing armor makes perfect sense (even ignoring the fact that armor is useful for most combatants.) Iida's quirk is _just_ speed. Apart from the partially metal enginges in his legs, his quirk doesn't come with any built-in physical reinforcement anywhere on his body. He's not naturally any sturdier than anyone else. His attack style consists of using the engines for devastating kicks or to launch himself at things at incredible speeds. Crashing into things at breakneck speeds is very likely to result in, well, a broken neck, and many other serious injuries. Iida's armour lets him use his quirk to its fullest potential by bracing him from the impact _and_ giving him a solid surface so that his kicks land harder. Apart from that, Bakugou's neck brace might be to protect his spine from the force of his explosions but that may be a stretch. Mineta's diaper is because he's just a comic relief side character and not someone we need to believe is actually capable. His design is supposed to be a joke as much as his character is, and the diaper look plays into him being A) gross and B) the size of a toddler. I got nothing on Kirishima's arm wheels, they're pretty weird. But I don't think they would be as actively detrimental as Uraraka's ridiculous boots (absolutely no one could walk, let alone fight in those) or the extremely bulky armbands when her quirk relies on touching things with her hands.
@@WhitePaintbrush i'm just using the same logic as the original post. juste like the OP, some of my questions aren't legitimate and some of them make sense : like iida. him wearing a helmet and leg protections would be perfectly fine, but a full body armor is just killing his own speed. deku is faster than iida and yet he's not wearing an armor. it's crazy how hypocritical you're being right now, you're ready to make the biggest stretch ever to explain bakugo's collar, you're minimizing how dumb kirishima's wheels are while emphasizing so much on uraraka's accessories. if anything these bricks around bakugo's neck is more of a danger than a protection, imagine having a collision against a wall while having this at your neck, it might kill him not fucking protect him. and kirishima's wheels, it's not just unpractical, it looks straight up painful for you armpit area. not dangerous but painful. why are you even even arguing about which one is 1% dumber ? it's totally pointless.
@@kinoo4496 “Some of my questions weren’t serious and some of them were” doesn’t work when there is 0 difference in phrasing between the two, it just kinda makes you look like you were scrambling for examples when there weren’t actually that many and backtracking when someone points it out. I don’t think Iida’s armor slows him down much. Deku can only keep up with him when he’s not at his top speed. His costume also makes sense from a visual standpoint as it’s supposed to make him resemble a car. Whereas I think some of the choices made with Uraraka’s costume (mainly it being a skintight bodysuit) detract from the visual goal which is for her to look like an astronaut. I don’t see how smashing into a wall with a neck brace is more likely to kill you than smashing into a wall without one. But regardless, what Bakugou mainly has to worry about is recoil from his own explosions which could cause his head to snap back. This is what a neck brace could be helpful for. I stated upfront that the neck brace was a stretch, there’s no need to repeat my own words back to me. The only reason I mentioned it at all was because I wanted to acknowledge all of your examples for the sake of a fair argument. Same with Kirishima, like I said, the wheels are dumb. No need to be all dramatic and spin it into me being “crazy hypocritical” when actually I was just engaging candidly with every one of your examples and making a point in your favour. Why? Well, because you asked. And also mainly because I enjoy hyperanalyzing details and chracter design is an interesting topic that I like talking about. You brought specific characters and examples into the conversation so I wanted to explore those.
@@WhitePaintbrush yeah lmao i added the same amount of bullshit exemples as the original post has because quantity is important. if OP tried to call my bullshit out i would have done the same. i'm not gonna defend sacrifice exemples right ? i completely agree with what you said about them. it's not a matter of what you think, an armor would slow him down if it was realistic. just like uraraka boots, if i said i don't think she has trouble walking with these, you would just tell me to try walking with something like that on my feet, so i'm telling you what happens when someone wears an armor in real life. i don't know why you all are making this astronaut argument, who said they tried to make her look like one ? to me it obviously looks like a suit a sf character would wear inside a spaceship. the brick collar could collide with his spine, making him tetraplegic or simply killing him. if i type neck brace on google, and don't think i'll find anything that looks similar to bricks. (you said "may be" that's why i repeated it and took that part out) i do like a bit of spice when arguing, it was not my intention to be rude or to insult you, i apologize if i offended you. i'll be careful. even if you're admitting my points, you're putting them on a different level with the way you're phrasing it : bakugo and kirishima "may be a strech" "pretty weird" => uraraka "ridiculous" "absolutely" "extremely" surely you can notice the difference even if i admitted uraraka design is dumber, the difference wouldn't be significative enough for you to act so differently if you were being fair. ye that's perfectly fine i enjoy it too that's not what i'm talking about. if we both agree on calling these few design accessories stupid, then why comparing them when they are more or less equally bad ? if one was good and the other was bad then we could make a conclusion and say female characters costumes don't have as much effort put into them compared to male's. if you want to do a male female comparison i believe you need more exemples.
40:00 "He's just a teenager with hormones, what's your problem ?" Well as a former victim of sexual harassment by male teenagers, I've a problem indeed with how people are so prompt to excuse the abuse perpetrated by boys because they're minors. In reality, a lot of sexual abuse, including rape, toward children isn't not only perpetrated by adults but also by teenagers who use their age gap to coerce younger people into sexual acts just like peodophiles do. Dismissing the gravity of their deviant behavior because of "hormones" or "puberty" is part of the rape culture.
you are absolutely right. and I'm so sorry you had to go through that; I hope you got justice for what happened, and if not, I and many others believe you and understand what you're going through. i hope you are taking good care of yourself!
HARD agree. I love this show but the oversexualization of the female cast bothers me greatly. Bubble-Girl was a perfect example, I was instantly made uncomfortable by her costume and the tickling scene was downright obscene. Additionally, poor Momo, smart girl, power that relies on research and intelligence, then made her costume more revealing than most lingerie. In universe it makes no sense that a school would allow a student to dress like that, it's gratuitous.
Glad you agree!! Yeah, Bubble Girl and Momo feel just very gratuitous and ridiculous with their costumes. It’s a real shame considering how strong the rest of the show is. Thank you for watching!
I hate how most girls in *Class A* (except Jirou) (and some in B) are bubbly, cheerful, and optimistic. I just wanna see a high school girl who is competitive, sarcastic, hot-headed, and has big ego or pride. But is well-written, not the Tsundere or Mary Sue-type Edit: Some replied suggesting that I don't like girls being happy. No, I don't. I'm just stating that most girls' *base* personalities are almost identical (Yeah I forgot Froppy is pretty chill). Compared to boys where we have the hot-headed, prideful, cold, brash/loud, calculated, and others. Like, come-on. Wouldn't a *high school girl who has base personality similar to Bakugo* , is actually interesting to look at?
I get it, the guys all have different personalities from the smart and serious, the quiet and kinda dark, the stubborn and short tempered, the cheerful, the chill, the shy...etc the girls mostly all are the same. Even when it comes to the adult female heroes and villains they are all mostly the same.
The series also has a weird but subtle issue. When a girl does get involved in the main action, she is usually the one to get gravely injured or even killed. When they're take the spotlight, seem accomplished, or actually accomplish something, they are subsequently undermined or sidelined. When they start getting slightly emotional or use their sex appeal like expected, they are put down in some way or shamed. Uraraka was initially supposed to have Mt Lady's power. But Hori realized she'd overshadow the male cast. When Mt. Lady is introduced, were supposed to feel bad for Kamui for being overshadowed. And Deku, who usually can't stop gushing about heroes, starts writing in his notes how impractical her abilities are. It's just little things. But they're there. And they pile up.
Yes! I’ve heard about this issue getting much worse as the manga goes on from manga-reader friends… disappointing but not totally unsurprising given the treatment of women in the series generally.
@@LadyIneia On the plus side, I'd say Uraraka does start coming into focus again with her own side plot and her own female nemesis (who is probably the most developed female character). They still are both treated as weaker and less important than their male companions. And aren't taken as seriously. They also still waste time constantly reminding us they both love Deku. But at the very least it doesn't look like they are fighting over Deku.
@@LadyIneia Read the manga before claiming something gets worse. You haven’t seen Mirko or Star and Stripe in action yet. Both are badasses who accomplish a lot even though there is some sacrifice. And to the original comment, there are plenty of male casualties as the show progresses and probably more men become useless than the women do once injured.
@@meep6780 Mirko is great. She's a side character but a good one. But that's it. She's badass and sexy. But you'll never see her get the attention and care Hori shows to Endeavor and Hawks. Same applies to all the other female pros. Even with female pros we do know better, like Midnight and Mt Lady, are given the shaft compared to the male ones. Stars n Stripes is an unintended but still poor example. I think Hori intended for her to balance out the more male dominated hero world. By making her the single most powerful hero... ever. But she's still introduced in a terribly rushed way. Still gets killed. And remained mostly pointless to the plot as a whole other than to nerf the vaguely all powerful main villain. Now put that with how Nagant, Midnight, and other women in MHA are treated. And you got a bad time. On their own, they're small and don't matter much. But they keep piling up.
THIS COMMENT ESPECIALLY!! Seriously, you nailed it perfectly!! Its like the women are PUNISHED for rising up! I think My Hero Academia is honestly MORE sexist than most shounen because unlike most, it constantly not only teases you with getting better, but it goes out of its way to specifically pull the rug out from under it's women and land them in a pit of spikes.
Hi! I’m one of the ones who got this in their recommended! Please talk about sexism in anime! This is literally the only way I can enjoy anime critique nowadays, anime p much disappoints me so that I can only watch 1-2 a year that doesn’t seem to sexualize women that much. I had a whole 10 page essay about women’s silhouettes being very obv similar if not the exact same & sexual objects first in animation back in the day.
This is one of the best dissections of Hero Aca's sexism. It isn't just saying "bnha bad" but actually looking at the series, praising what's good, and criticizing what isn't. As someone who adores the series despite it's flaws, it's refreshing to see that kind of good faith criticism.
It's not sexist though people are just mad that the female characters are sexualized like it only effects the female ones and the male characters never get the same treatment I have to disagree.
I'm honestly annoyed when people have to label everything as sexist like nothing can be enjoyed because it's somehow putting women down that's just not the case.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 "nothing can be enjoyed" -- says who? Barely a minute into the video she gushes about how much she loves the show and calls it one of the greatest shounen of the past few decades. You can like something and criticize it at the same time.
Mina got done so dirty. I love her character design, her personality, and her power is really neat. She has literally one line of "I have to be really careful with my power so I don't hurt others", but that concept could have gone so much further. With good writing, she'd teach Deku control and observing surroundings because she's used her power carefully her entire life. She could actually use her powers more than just skidding around, or tiny little splashes for specific moments. Hell have a moment where she's done holding back and just melts a building or something and does some serious collateral damage. MHA isn't afraid of doing some deeper topics, and certainly isn't afraid of having devastating physical consequences happen to surroundings, and I feel Mina could have been such a good use of that. Deku's power was always about hurting him, and the glossing over of that sheer power hitting someone for the most part was written off unless the plot needed it, and of course only to villians. She also had another moment in the more recent season (SPOILERS) where the villian from her backstory appears. I was thinking "Oh neat she actually gets her moment, she'll overcome her fear". Nope. Kirishima saves the day again, making the plot about him instead. She was shown as so completely weak and hopeless and it was like a reverse character arc.
I'm working off of old memories of these scenes so correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Mina DID stand up to that villain in the past while KIRISHIMA is the one that couldn't move. Standing up to that villain is Kirishima's moment a lot more than Mina's, she already showed bravery and over came fear in the flashback while Kirishima is the one that needed to stand up to show that he had grown. I can agree that it could have been done a lot better with how Mina was handled in that scene, she shouldn't have shown any fear.
@@marshmellowmoon7990This is correct, there’s supposed to be a payback of sorts between them. Mina inspired Kirishima to become a hero in the first place by standing up when he faltered, so years later he does the same. And Mina gets back up and finishes her mission afterward. It’s very good payoff
What makes the part with Minetta & Eri even more disgusting is that she had just been freed from a place where she was trapped by a huge group of men for a long time & no one knew the details of what happened there except that she was tormented & traumatized in nonspecific ways, yet that was the first thing he said when seeing her & no one had a problem with that even though the whole premise of her being at the school was to help her feel safe & normal. He should've been expelled & put on a list without question or hesitation.
@@LeeBee287 it's a confirmed mistranslation, in the manga he says "i look for to seeing you in ten years". Basically telling her she'll be a great hero of she's in U.A already. Some other translations say he making a joke about his height and is saying look me up and I'll be taller in ten years. It 100% wasn't sexual cause mineta wasn't drooling or blushing anytime mineta does his shit asui or someone jump his ass, yet no one is even phased by what he said. Sub and dub just made him look worse.
I once read a fic where the entire plot was Bakugo and Todoroki going on a quest to make mineta pay for how he treats his female classmates and it ends up with mineta expelled from UA. it was truly an amazing piece of literature
I think I know the one! I’m pretty sure it’s one of the top MHA fics on AO3, though iirc they also make Mineta homophobic in that fic just to really drive the nail into the coffin.
I loved uraraka when I watched mha back when it was popular in 2020-2021. She was really sweet, and even though so many people hated her because she only wanted to be a hero for the money (she had good intentions for that, plus she apologized if it sounded greedy, she never had any selfish intentions for wanting to be a hero) and because she liked deku. It’s disappointing how she isn’t highlighted in the show anymore like in the first few seasons.
lots of people didn't like her because she "got in the way" of their fetishized shoto x deku and bakugo x deku ships. AS A TRANS MLM PERSON, WE ARE NOT YOUR TOYS TO BE PLAYED WITH AND OGLED AT.
I only ever disliked like her since I felt like a major personality was just her crush on deku, which was just annoying. And made her highly unlikeable when a major or even part of a character personality around there crush. I didn't dislike her for the fact she was being a hero for money. But... Her crush on deku was just annoying and I felt it was honestly over focused within the anime
It's criminal that she's a rival to Toga and not to Spinner. Hell, I don't think Uraraka has even seen Spinner in the entirety of the show. Spinner's whole deal is that he's a Stain supporter, and Uraraka's motive is literally the one thing Stain hates the most. It practically writes itself: "Person who hates heroes that work for money VS a hero that works for money." It would be perfect for progressing Spinner's character, while also giving Uraraka some more fight scenes of her own. Instead she fights Toga... because they both crush on Deku? Good job authors. Make their fights about Deku, great idea.
What is more baffling about Momo's ability (reinforcing that it is all "fan service") is that while she is producing sometimes extremely large objects like cannons, her breast NEVER SHRINK. If she is converting the "lipids"/fat cells in her body to make other things.... well.... she should lose "fat" mass in the areas where she uses those transformations. Take Fat Gum for example. He also manipulates fat though in a different way and when he burns through that in his energy conversion, he becomes skinny and needs to eat it back up. Funny isnt it, how Momo or any part of her does not shrink... ever.... even a little
especially since she dosn't appear to have any other fat resevers. I haven't watched MHA, so i don't know if there is any in-universe explaniation, but if she creates stuff from her body fat, it would also have made sense to make her fat
@@normalaboutpathologic Well, she basically eats a lot, and theres no time to the lipids accumulate to form fat because she uses them to form stuff, thats why.
It's honestly kind of surprising that this isn't the case bc I could see it easily being subject to funny and/or fanservice-y moments (e.g. her clothes not fitting after she uses up too much fat and its too baggy + revealing) and it would've simultaneously catered to guys' different tastes. ... but I'm pretty sure the author just has a thing for enormous BAZONGAS. The only character without triple-D's is jirou 💀horikoshi's fetishes once again holding back the writing
I think it's also important to note that characters that don't receive as much "fan service", like Todoroki and Kaksuki, still have massive fan bases and are idolised/adored by a staggering number of people. The only times I can remember Todoroki being in a potentially revealing outfit are the results of him using his fire quirk and naturally burning a portion of his clothes off; a situation that makes sense as this happens when he's not wearing his specially designed hero costume and the man is producing FIRE. There are no gratuitous close shots, no one comments on his revealed skin, and yet he has a massive following of fans who absolutely love him regardless. Other characters comment on how handsome he is, but these are said with respect and adoration , and serve to show that while others find him attractive, that is not all they see. They are equally as fascinated with his looks as they are with his abilities, because it is his competency that makes him attractive even beyond his looks. When you compare this treatment with that of the girls, the difference is stark. They are constantly being placed in compromising positions, either because their outfits "malfunction" (like in the case of Momo's ridiculous outfit which is seemingly designed to rip every time she uses her quirk) or because a male character decides to aggressively sexualise them either by groping or tricking them into situations engineered to titillate the men in the show and on the other side of the screen. What I'm trying to say is that male characters like Todoroki occasionally have revealing moments, but these are secondary to their character, happening after they've established their personality, abilities, and competency, and are usually the result of them performing a feat designed to prop them up as impressive and therefore these characters still produce fan bases that love them despite a lack of "sexy" scenes. For women, these moments are a constant stream that supercedes development and personality, and this demonstrates a clear heirachy where a woman's sexuality is placed above her character.
So many people use the fact that there are male characters that exist that are half, if not almost entirelly naked and compare it to how female characters are displayed as a gotcha moment. "Here we showcase how it's all exactly the same, end of" without... analyzing that what they are showing is nowhere near the same. I will always remember the many dudes that give characters like He-man and Kratos from God of War as examples of male sexuality/fanservice for women and it's uh... Not the case at all? He-man and Kratos were not designed with women in mind, whatsoever. Kratos, for example, gets around and you can activate bonus scenes where you press a bunch of buttons and have sex with a few if not several different women in a matter of seconds, so in-universe he is sexually desirable. But his design was not made to titillate women. It was made as a male-power fantasy. The "ideal" male body. What men are supposed to want to have, or at least fantasize about becoming/being. Sure, there will be women that are attracted to those designs and will like the naked aspect but they are an exception to the rule and his design was not made with them in mind. Even when shows try the "male fanservice for women" in the same vein as female fanservice, it is never done quite like it. So much is lacking that comparing the two is almost always impossible. So whenever I see people say that Bakugou and Kirishima for example, are equal part sexualized by the show because they have muscles and have been shirtless before, it feels... Dumb as hell? The framing just isn't the same.
One point that could be brought up is Kirishima’s costume. It’s pretty much topless for little to no reason, somewhat similarly to Momo’s. The difference here is that there aren’t unnecessary moments of gawking at Kirishima’s body. Another point to be addressed was the fact that when the students put in instructions and requests for their costumes, the costume designers would often take liberties such as adding heels to Uraraka’s costume. (They completely changed Mineta’s costume from his original design, which I find hilarious.) Kirishima and Momo may or may not have wanted their costumes to be designed this way, with the unnecessary revealing themes. Their characters are not (canonically speaking) to blame for their outfits, UNLIKE MIDNIGHT. Midnight literally had her outfit custom designed and could’ve had it easily changed at any time, but didn’t, showing that she literally WANTED to be objectified and sexualized.
I am really enjoying this comment section! All of these points are very well articulated and exemplary!! I really like the addition of commenting that when guys say that men in video games are sexualized as well that it’s no level close to the sexualization of women. People’s brothers and fathers walk around the house shirtless all the time. Being shirtless does not equate to fan service! 😅 They really think we’re thirsting over the same muscly, jacked up, roided up protagonists (and no shame to those who do), but just like the other commenter said that wasn’t made for women. A lot of women have to go to a completely different genre (yaoi) where we’re not even the object of desire!!! If I hear one more man talk about Free!, one more time… they don’t seem to understand that they have to keep referring to the same anime that was released in 2013, but a show can be released tomorrow with male fan service literally tomorrow.
Something that really bugs me about momo's design in particular is that her particular design exposes multiple extremely important, squishy organs. hero work is by default a dangerous task, and we see characters get into serious trouble multiple times. so.... why... in the world... would you want a costume that exposes your vital organs? we know theres hero killers. shes fucked the minute a villain doesnt play nice.
@@FireWaifu you can like something while being critical of it in some aspects, just because there's one thing in a show you don't like, doesn't mean you should just stop enjoying it, use your brain
@@FireWaifu And you can use your brain to realize it does not matter how other people consume media and comment on it. You can criticize a show and still enjoy it. This is a not black and white issue
@@FireWaifuThey're allowed to Criticize a show for its flaws without being told "If you disliked anything at all that's your problem" and to stop watching. That's really silly.
The most annoying thing is that Mirio has this whole smart costume made from his own hair so he doesn't end up naked but both Toga AND Momo both end up naked in basically every fight
@@JonasRosado But a more practical outfit that exposes her back and stomach would work better than an outfit that, besides a ridiculous opening on the front, actually makes her far more covered than she should be. I think when people bring up Mirio, is not to say that all other characters should have the same type of engineering he had done for his outfit, but that more thought should've been put into their costumes. Toga you can get away with but characters like Momo and Hagakure (and in my opinion also Midnight) are absolute failures. Which is worse given that they're from the main class of the show (sidelining aside).
@@RobotScarlet I'd be lying if I said that momo's costume is flawed to begin with but it just makes sense for her breasts to be exposed at least a bit because really they're just one big source of fat that she can use and how is midnight costume a failure? Only problem with it is that it covers her skin. Also, yes hagakure should have an outfit like mirio but it's possible that because it's her 1st year and first outfit that she either can't get one made, she didn't think of that and it's probably next to impossible to get a blood sample from one of her veins for the dna
@@JonasRosado Except when zippers are a thing. She doesn't need an open boob window, she can have a velcro or zipper opening in the front to use whenever she needs. And in case of emergency, well, we literally see her first extreme use of her power is her ripping the back of her suit completely despite her front being exposed, so it wouldn't be much if an issue, especially since she doesn't seem to mind being exposed if it's for something serious. The outfit just doesn't make sense except there needed to be some titties out. Midnight's outfit is a failure to me. I know many people don't agree but based on her powers, based on her personality and the whole dominatrix thing she has going on it's terrible and looks ugly. A dominatrix goes all out with her look and she's not only tame, the wildest thing she's got going for her is her titties being out. She's meant to be attractive and the show points it out constantly but she looks like a trainwreck. And Hagaruke, that's an explanation of the character but is a failing of the author because really, all he wanted was to make jokes about her being naked all the time. How can you conceive of an invisibility power and not do an outfit that goes invisible WITH them? All she has are literal gloves and shoes. They (sort of) thought out an outfit for Uraraka but couldn't do the same to Hagakure? There's many ways to get DNA that doesn't require syringes or veins. I just think he didn't think these character through because they weren't really meant to be as thought out besides the basics (and Hagakure's case... nothing).
Alright, I'm not defending this shit, and yes, the Mirio=Momo argument, I understand and fully agree with. But how the hell would it work for Toga. Mirio phases his body through stuff, Momo creates things and it pops out of her skin. Considering these are all just molecular of her own lipids, I feel it makes sense for her suit to allow the objects to phase through. But Toga is a bit of a different case. I mean, her entire body morphs using someone else's DNA. Her entire quirk is based off of adding foreign DNA to her system. Even if a suit could somehow be feasible for Toga that accounts for this impossibly random variable, I don't think it would fall in the same ballpark as Mirio or the theoretical Momo suit, logistically or technologically.... I'm now noticing this reply is long enough to be its own comment. So that's what I'll do.
@@Zank069 that doesnt make it any better. if its just an exaggeration, why does mineta still not have any repercussions for his actions? it makes it seem like this type of behavior is acceptable when its literally not.
@@Zank069 Aka a self insert. Sorta like how Snape from Harry potter was made to represent JK Rowling's science teacher and Hermione being the self insert.
@@hornetfromhallownest Same thing about Bakugou: irl people would snap back at him and no one would want to have anything to do with this prick but it seems that MHA's characters are just like the Carebears... 🤦♀️
Another thing that bugged me a lot when I watched BNHA: All the women who are shown multiple times are the _same._ They're all bubbly and sweet, super kind and very social with occasional differences like how Jirou is more introverted or Momo more poised. There isn't a single major female character - at least in UA - that is bitchy and violent, or quiet and anxious, or stoic and alone. Even if they were just stereotypes I'd love to see it more than just all the same shade of "kind." Not only that but they're all physically the same. Sure the height is somewhat varied, but body shape and physique is all the same. There isn't any female student who is muscular like her male counterparts, or thick, or lanky. Just all the default varieties of the hourglass shape. Edit: since this is necessary I'm just gonna put this here ig 1. First of all I am a woman in her late teen years (I'm counting 13-19 as teen years for clarity) 2. I stated several times I was talking about major characters, so 1A students, assume when I say girls I mean that group unless specified differently 3. This is my opinion and observations 4. I acknowledge that I'm asking for traditionally unlikable characteristics, but I want variety because all the girls are boring and bland and I hate them 5. I will no longer be answering replies as I've made my observations in this main comment and the following comments, unless someone points out something I didn't say already 6. Not only are the girls all similar and boring, but they are also only objects of fan service, this show could've just taken place in an all-boys school without any difference
so i guess Miruko, Mitsuki Bakugo, Thirteen (I mean shes kinda sweet and stuff but shes not like overly sweet), and a couple of class-b's students, don't exist?
@@Disbelief_ Omg three women who are remarkable in any way. How amazing. Consider how much variety there is the male cast and then think about the three women you could name and the handful of 1B girls you couldn't. And I repeatedly clarified that I was talking about major characters or UA students-
They managed to make Mirio a costume using his dna so that his clothes can phase through things with him, so couldn’t they do something similar for Momo? edit: how did I manage to cause an argument and get 2k likes? makes no sense. anyways, please stop arguing
this really irks me concerning the invisible girl too, how is it that their society is so advanced that they can make suits with someones dna so that it adapts to their quirk but they couldnt make a suit for her so she could turn invisible with it on? it’s ridiculous and so gross that it is stated upfront she is naked on the job and nobody batted an eye, it feels like some perverse fantasy. its so disappointing and another example of one of these high school aged girls with so much potential regarding their quirks/character arcs being reduced to vessels for unrelenting fanservice 😕
The problem with "pervert" characters like Mineta is that if their behavior is shown as ridiculous, portraying sexual misconduct as a running gag ultimatly passes it as harmless. And Mineta isn't the butt of the joke for being an harrasser but for being unlucky in his attempts. Save for that, he never faces consequences for his actions, he isn't kicked out of school or ostracized by the class, the teachers never punish him or make him attend disciplinary hearing.
There is one Mineta joke that made me genuinely laugh: during the school festival, he realizes he can't play the guitar and he blames it on his character design being too short. It's funny because it's a 4th wall break. .....and then it's ruined immediately by Ashido comforting him by saying she'll give him a harem. What the hell was up with that
Well, i think Ashido means she will let everyone ( girls maybe) to dance around him, make him the center of attention, showed in that music show video( i think, i don't remember). Also sorry for bad english.
What I personally find worse than Mineta is that there's not even consequences for these actions (except played for laughs). If they'd show that he faces some serious consequences for this or it's made a SERIOUS/lesson part of the story then Mineta being absolutely horrible would probably be...excuseable...once or twice. But nope, Aizawa or any other adults apparently doesn't care that a character makes female students uncomfortable/feel unsafe.
Not gonna lie I get a chuckle out of people who take Mineta's antics seriously. Obviously it was done for comedic effect, and every time Mineta goes on and does this a handful of times he is dealt accordingly and always backfires. If the girls, let alone his classmates truly felt that he was such a threat, they would've reported him. I'm pretty confident to say that while they know he's a perv, they do know he's not a bad person that does it with the intent on hurting them. Annoying and bothersome, absolutely. Malicious? That's where I draw the line. While Mineta is a perv, what people refuse to admit or give him credit is that he has cut down on his perverted antics, and the will knit pick the guy even if he says the smallest thing. Even though we've seen other anime characters do it such as Roshi, Jiraiya, Melodias, etc to name a few. At least Mineta has the excuse that he's a teenager. But I digress, maybe if he had a cooler design or a cooler quirk he wouldn't be as hated. While he is a pervert and I will not take anything away from your reasons for disliking him as you are in your right, there have been countless perverts in anime, some just as bad and even worse than Mineta.
I get what you mean but it's not like this is new. Not to mention that all of the girls would destroy mineta in a 1v1, so I don't think they feel unsafe. If Mineta was as overwheleming and skillful as Bakugou, sure, but he's a midget who has a great quirk wasted on him due to his lack of skill. 'sides, MHA isn't about that, its about Deku becoming the best hero, everyone he's met, and everything he learns up until he becomes the best. Putting any greater relevance on someone who has no relevance in Deku's journey isn't good for the story. The only reason a lot of characters even have development is because most if not all manga are third-person omniscient. Finally, the viewers aren't stupid. 14-18 year old guys don't need Horikoshi to have an episode or two on mineta for them to know that sexual assault is bad. If someone needs that lesson taught to them, they aren't the right demographic for shonen.
SPOILERS DOWN BELOW FOR MAIRIMASHITA IRUMA KUN Look at mairimashita Iruma Kun The character Caim, he isn't as close as a terrible character towards mineta. His punishment for making girls uncomfortable is to literally put him in the class for troubled students that are seen by the whole school as a joke. And whenever he makes a sexual joke the teachers/students look at him and sometimes scold him. We also find out WHY he is a pervert. His family were really strong demons who thought they could defeat the demon king but of course, lost. They were given a second chance and now they're on the demon kings side. His mother was explaining to him on how you have to respect him and some other things (he was a little kid when she was saying this) And he misunderstood it. He still respects the girls tho as he doesn't want them hurt and compliments them sometimes. Not to mention his bloodline ability is WAY SUPERIOR than minetas quirk...... Mineta-sticky balls on his head Caim- can control anyone's familiar/ creature to follow his command/ talk to them and understand them
i get what you're saying but you do realise that by that logic characters like Bakugo would be gone too. Like harming others, bullying, and inciting suicide are way worse than what Mineta has done
@@Sprinklefanfan they didnt really say to make bakugo gone, but honestly, I'd fucking want that- as someone with anger issues I do not like Bakugo one bit
I love MHA, but I gotta admit, you hit the nail dead on the head. The fact that bakugo can wear gloves and mirio can wear a full bodysuit, but toru has to be buck naked says it all.
Mirio phases through things, even normal clothes. To prevent him from being naked all the time, his costume is actually made of his own hair fibers so it phases with him. By this logic, Toru’s hair can be fashioned into a costume, she can be clothed, and still maintain her stealth. In fact it would actually improve her stealth since her current outfit (gloves and boots) are visible. Think next time you try to rationalize an underage character being naked.
@meowtastic___meowtastic___6115 she wears gloves and boots so that her classmates and (more importantly) the readers/audience can see her at all, everytime she actually goes into combat she takes them off/uses them as a trap for opponents, even if someone could somehow make clothes for her (that would be invisible) she would look and function identically, plus how is she even meant to find it anytime she takes it off 💀
You have excellent points! My response is that she could where a hybrid suit, one where she has clothes that are invisible, but gloves and boots that can be seen. However, it has been stated that toru can see herself, so one could infer that she could clothing made out of her hair.
I completely agree, and it has grieved me bc the show itself is good, but the constant and consistent oversmexulaization... is hard to watch bc it isn't necessary or ever relevant. Also watched to the end. Great vid.
thank you so much for addressing the issue of how Bones slimmed all the girls down too!! Horikoshi is actually INCREDIBLY good at drawing bodies in ways that make them feel like they have very real-world weight and girth to them. ive genuinely never seen a mangaka who draws female bodies with such a well done balance of both muscle and fat for athleticism before. Momo has an especially egregious case to me- in the manga she full on has rolls sometimes. shes actually pretty chunky, which makes sense for her because of how her quirk affects her body- she needs to maintain that good balance of both useable fat and muscle through the food she eats to make stuff. but in the anime she looks like she could share clothing sizes with Jirou if it werent for how much more boob she has. its pointless and stupid, and immediately rubbed me the wrong way
Yeah! I wanted to mention that bc I think it’s one of the MHA’s big strengths and really unique qualities that the characters, esp the girls, are drawn with realistic and varied bodies. Bones really did not do the manga art justice in that regard.
This is why I LOVE Katara in Avatar The Last Airbender. A lot of the time in colder climates she's shown in clunky snow clothes, and the moments when she is shown as more of an attractive character is when Aang is realizing he likes her. And it's still practical outfits. It was like she was wearing a sports bra. AND she doesn't get sidelined. She has amazing development throughout the show. (As a plus, when Sokka is being sexist in the very first episode, it's addressed as wrong. And he improves.) Edit: I also forgot about our girl Toph. She's amazing too!
This is also why I love women from attack on Titan. I bet you have heard many people say the same and it might be annoying to hear. But seriously, tell me a woman that’s so badly written because they’re not oversexualized? It proves a lot of points that a female character in anime doesn’t need to be sexualized, have huge boobs, big ass, big thighs, revealing clothes to be a good female character
YES OMG!! I absolutely LOVE Katara! She is such a badass and the writers did an amazing job with her! They never ONCE Sexualized her in anyway, and the moments when Aang was like going lovey dovey were done well! For example, She was in her normal outfit and she put on the necklace Aang made for her! That part was really well done! And yes the beginning! I love how they addressed that the way Sokka was acting was kinda btchy, but he improved! AVATAR STAYS ON TOPPPP ❤️❤️❤️
Something a lot of people don't really bring up about Minetta is that in that training fight with Mina, she tries to report him after the fact and she is laughed at. It not only makes a mockery of assault, but mocks a character who tries to take action, when speaking up is hard. She was told she should be grateful and go with it, and the narrative never addressed it again. EDIT: I would like to make a slight alteration to what I stated. She was not directly laughed at by the classmates. However, it was brushed aside as if it was no big deal.
she wasnt laughed at, she said Minetta deserves to be locked up and Mineta yelled and said "But i saved you" and the next we see of them is Mina subjecting him to Clockwork Orange punishment, after which his pervertedness ended. Not even exaggerating, that was his last act as a pervy characters he's just been that small guy with a funny design and power for about 4 and a half years now thats the majority of the story
I'd now be curious if you ever did a series on the two best shonen (FMA and Dungeon Meshi) that were both created by women, because they show how to do it right, and I love it.
Yep. It's a pity that feminist media analysis settled on "the male gaze" as a term for this phenomenon. Men are frequently uncomfortable with this sort of material just showing up out of nowhere for no good reason, but the male gender role means we're supposed to shut up about it and be grateful for any sexual shit thrown in our direction. And because we're punished socially if we do complain about it, we don't speak up. It isn't that we don't speak up because we actually enjoy this garbage. It's because we're put in danger when we do speak up, and we learn that we are in danger from a very young age. But feminist analysis has long lagged behind on understanding the pressures that those subject to the male gender role suffer under, and continue to make the mistake of assuming we are universally benefited just because women are harmed. It isn't universal, but it's way too common.
@@YouthRightsRadical real shit, it really needs to change for the sake of men and women cause I know a great portion of men really don't fuck with shit like this and live within a culture who abuses you if you don't agree. Hopefully we'll get there better at some point. Stay strong Dudes and Stay strong Dudettes c:
@@YouthRightsRadicalwell, it's called the male gaze because men are expected to be purely sexual "creatures". You and others like you may not be comfortable with such overt fetish fuel and fanservice, but the expectation is that you, as a man, will. Sexism impacts everyone, and unfortunately men were the ones to impose those standards onto themselves way back when and now; women of those times took a less active role in that sexism, teaching misogyny/brutal gendered expectations to their children. The video uploader clearly didn't say all men were this way, with her repeated stating of "assumed straight male audience". Aside from queer men, there's obviously a huge group of straight men that are disturbed by the sexualization of characters and irritated by the expectation that they'll enjoy it. While I agree with you that men shouldn't be framed as hypersexual ""creatures"" and such, I disagree that feminist media or perspectives are the problem. I don't know what your relation to feminism is, but all I can say as someone who's learned a whole lot is that feminism is not what you think it is by the name. Yes, at first it was intended to show women were as competent as men, but over time that goal changed to "showing every gender as equals". Feminism isn't putting women above men (despite many who say so and the few women that do this in the name of unironic girlboss feminism), or saying men have to be "feminine", or anything else of the sort. At it's most basic level, it's the refusal of tired old gender stereotypes that hurt women and men, such as women being weak or men being strong. Men have emotions too, and should be allowed to express them without shame or mockery. Women can dress however they want without being shamed for it. Men can have close and intimate relationships with their fathers and male friends without it being seen as inherently gay. So on, so forth. Sorry for the ramble, but I hope I can show a new perspective on feminism. It's so often bastardized and lied about that I understand your initial thoughts, but please know it's not how you think it is at all. On a more serious note, there are people who care for you and won't let some stupid gender get in the way of you being human. But again, your issue with the patriarchy's framing of men is completely understandable and justified. Even if it's fiction, even if you gave the benefit of the doubt that people weren't that gullible, even if it's framed as harmless jokes, sexism in media affects us all.
@@Vesperad0 I didn't say feminism is responsible for this. This sort of messaging predates organized feminism by a considerable margin. What I said was that feminist analysis lags behind in terms of recognizing the harms that the male gender role inflicts on men relative to its understanding of the harms the female gender role inflicts on women. I will say you're making a hell of an assumption when you claim that "men" were the ones who made up gender roles whole cloth at some past point. Nothing about what we know of sociology says that "men" were ever some unified, omnipotent cabal who were actively and consciously deciding how to structure society in a way to actively exclude women. And decided that all men should forever be barred from major parts of the human experience. Fortunately, academic feminist literature may have a ways to go in terms of coming to grips with the issues those of us subjected to the male gender role struggle with, but they are far more nuanced than this bizarre conspiracy theory that anti-feminists propagate that "patriarchy" refers to some ancient conspiracy of all men against all women. Much of it is still bad at understanding that "patriarchy" hurts men without the qualification that it's not just "backfiring" from an intent to hurt women, but because it is harmful to men in and of itself. But very little will talk about what "men" imposed back in ye olden days as if there was ever a time when "men" were able to, or interested in, conspiring against themselves and against their own loved ones. Everyone needs to remember that "the patriarchy" is not the same thing as "men".
Excessive tickling is also a literal form of torture because it causes your muscles to continuously spasm and becomes incredibly painful after a bit. So that might've also contributed to your discomfort.
“Momo’s skin needs to be exposed for her quirk to work” **proceeds to show a shot of her making something from her back, a non-exposed part of her body** Edit: I just thought it was a funny montage sequence. Now for the people bringing up the good point that is that after that scene Momo’s costume was ripped, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal; Deku rips his costume 24/7. It’s just bad design
Well Superhero suits aren't cheap after all so you don't want to have to buy replacements all the time... Then again when you can make whatever the hell you want out of practically nothing, cost shouldn't be an issue
While yes he is extremely perverted and I do agree with you. He is pretty well written and actually pretty competent with a intelligence of 5/5 (I think) only to be beaten by Momo with a 6/5. (Also in my opinion I think his hype moments were pretty good.) Overall I agree with you, he is extremely perverted and a coward, but I do want to say Mineta is a pretty well written character.
On Facebook so much creepy roae anime hentai Facebook groups and I rmeber some guy said if minetta was a bad guy all the girls would be r4ped and pregnant by now like wtfff
@@meapyboy12345 that’s not really the point of what they said though. You can have a well written character but it’s still harmful if you portray sexual assault or constant objectification of women as a good thing. I would argue a good characterisation would actually critique that part of the character.
@@HiBuddyyyyyy Nobody displayed it as a good thing. As a matter of fact quite the opposite. People in universe fucking hate Mineta for good reason and he was literally tortured into giving up his perverted ways. So no, it's never portrayed as a good thing.
A year late but: The most frustrating thing about Momo's design: The excuse for it is kinda bullshit Bakugou creates explosions from his sweat, which is secreted through his skin, and yet gloves don't hamper his abilities at all? Tokoyami has a spirit who, presumably, cannot go through solid space. (We know Dark Shadow is a solid object because we've seen him interact with the physical world countless times) The spirit comes from his body, and yet this spirit has no problem getting through his clothing? The only time this whole "they need to show skin for their quirk" has ever been applied is for female characters and Kirishima. It's not even a solid excuse if the logic of it is being pushed aside for her male counterparts
The frustrating thing is that it's totally fine and easy to have female characters with skimpy outfits, no justification needed. Just make them dress themselves like that on purpose, just say it's their style. There doesn't need to be some ridiculous lore explanation.
@@AnkyloDyno yeah, though my only real reason for laughing mainly comes from the hindsighted dissapointment with the clueless horny fans who had (most likely) paused there in order to... "contemplate their feelings" despite the subject of the video, not with the Momo clip itself.
@@BobbinRobbin777 why do you assume we're clueless or horny... or even a fan? why can't you accept that men love to look at chicks? why foist your pov on ppl?
Um, NO lol? If you think the "annoying comedic midget pervert" stereotype is the favorite of creeps known for larger than average egos, idk what world you live in
What also bugs me is that people justify mineta by saying "it's a joke" or worse, "he's designed to be disliked, so obviously his horrible actions are meant to be a bad trait". Then why does he never have any repercussions? aside from getting smacked what are the consequences? why are the teachers not punishing him for the way he acts? Why are none of the girls coming forward to Aizawa like "hey he is blatantly sexualising us and we feel uncomfortable" ?
Johnny Bravo at least routinely got his ass whooped or his ego hit when he slipped into his misogynist character traits. Not to mention he had actual moments of clarity where he either realized his mistake or actively behaved in an upstanding manner to a woman. Mineta is just a creepy diaper fetish insert freak.
its anime stuff like this is normal if u have seen ANY anime like why do the tsunderes never get in trouble when they knock dudes out its just a quirk of animation
@@admiralkaede i can tell you have no critical thinking skills based off just that reply so will end my convo with you here good luck hope you learn some things some day about media literacy and impact :)
I agree honestly it gets under my nerve every time they try to do this and they make The show so weird i’m currently on season two episode 31 and damn it’s weird . It’s mostly thirst traps which even though it has great characters like all might , Totariki etc.. It’s so nerve-racking when I watch it and I see stuff like this because it’s not why I came to watch this anime. In my opinion, this is what holds the anime back and in my view, just a less great version of one punch, man or demon slayer
I’ll be honest. I’m a cishet man. I’ve never been that into feminist theory. But watching this show at some points made me so damn uncomfortable that I just had to know that I wasn’t going crazy. Mha is really the first anime I’ve seriously watched, and the fact that so much of the community just accepts this stuff as par for the course is making me scared to watch more anime. Thanks for making this video, it just feels like all my problems with the show summed up in a concise format.
I'm really glad you enjoyed the video, especially watching it as someone not as invested in feminist analysis! MHA has a fun story, but the sexist element really does let it down a lot--and unfortunately a bunch of shows get let down by that. If you want a great action/adventure show with almost no fanservice, I'd highly recommend Fullmetal Alchemist. The original manga author was a woman, and her female characters are gorgeous and powerful without feeling sexualized and objectified. Thank you again for watching and commenting!!
thank you so much for bringing up that a character having a large chest isn’t inherently a character being sexualized! a lot of the discussion around this implied that big boobs are inherently sexual and not just someone’s body.
It is kind of hard to remember that when almost every single anime says differently. And the framing of said animes can confuse people. I myself had forgotten this fact (when I watch anime) even tho I am a female. Aka- framing can be pretty important (bad)
@@dy_nto7 that is the bad sexualization, unless it's a very specific anime. But a character just having big boobs is not the bad stuff, camera angles and other characters looking is. Basically I think you meant to agree with them but didn't read it right, wich is perfectly fine haha!
@@alicedodobirb2808 I mean yes I agree but I would have a problem with it if EVERY female character have big chest because it wouldn't make any sense so I would consider it a fanservice. Like One Piece women who only have one body type you know? Every female body is different after all.
@@dy_nto7 ye, I can see that, it took a while for me to start watching it because of that reason lol. Boobs make me uncomfortable :') I am watching it, but I look away from most of the weird fanservice lol. (Never got a notif for your reply, sorry for the long time lol)
As a girl I got interested in this show BECAUSE of the female character but since they didn’t do anything with the female characters except to sexually harass them, I lost interest.
my question is why, when all the male classmates are absolutely ripped, the girls, who are supposed to be EQUALLY AS STRONG, dont have even a sliver if muscle definition
@@Palepetal Some are if they are active. I went to school with a lot of boys who played football and basketball. I was curious as to how they got that way when all I saw them eat were potato chips lol. The coaches would fill them up at the cafeteria and train them.
@@Palepetal some boy characters could have less muscle mass too while some girls could have more, there were some fit individuals in my class personally
21:16 as a person who has a larger chest, I fully agree to this point. I personally swim and I always have to find suits who support me enough and where nothing "falls out" (yes, that happened. And it's horrible.) I could never imagine having an outfit like Momo has in the show, because I can confirm that it is just so uncomfortable and impractical. I wear sports bras all the time, just because they offer me more comfort and stability than normal ones, because I really need it. Momo is such a sweet character, she has been done dirty by the design.
@@mr.theory5733 Yup. It's a very popular piece of media and fiction who reflets the mind set of its creators and the society where they live. No matter if you want it or not, but fiction is an incredibly powerful tool on how you will behave on the society. Every fiction you watch make woman only an object of desire and sexualised them even if they are minors? Well that must be how woman should be since it's normal. I know it's sound stupid saying out loud, but that's really how it works. Society influences fiction and fiction influences society. That's why we talk a lot about representation, how women are in fiction, the problematic behavior... If a drawing is just a drawing and it's stupid to complain about it, then ped0p0rn0graphic image wouldn't be a juridic problem.
@@lou9635 everyone knows what is right and wrong Just because they watch something a drawing does not mean that it will reflect on there every day life ( if you watch a form of art fiction and emulate it then you are 1. Too young to know better 2. There’s something wrong with you ) So in summery ( this is video point out how the creator feels about the Piece of fiction that is an opinion and that opinion is valid but at the end of the day this is all not real a drawing fake and not everyone one will see it so in turn it will not do much )
@@mr.theory5733 Because it's not like Japan & weeb culture have a constant problem of real underage girls being sexualized, molested, insulted, gaslighted, & generally treated like shit, right? It's not like girls get molested in Japanese trams/trains so often that there are separate trams just for women & the media's response to it is to make porn out of it, right?
Can we take a second to appreciate how balanced and respectful this criticism is? It's not just saying "Look! Bad! Bnha sucks!" but actually acknowledges both the bad and the good parts of the show, and doesn't instantly hate on the show entirely. I genuinely appreciate that. Keep up the good work! :)
Disagree. She never talks about MHA itself, just what she doesn’t like. Her criticism is passable at best, and hypocritical at worst, and she only ever talks good about one thing.
@@JayMehKay She's not supposed to talk about the whole thing. It's a focused criticism regarding the stuff in the video, not a recap of the show. The fact that she went out of her way to compliment the show was nice.
@@thevoid5732 Just because "there are worse" doesn't mean Mineta isn't a terrible and disgusting character, and what consequences does he ever face that aren't just a metaphorical slap on the wrist?
@@amyleah08 the reason I bring up there being worse examples is that no one reacts to those the same way they do w mineta from what I've seen. Meliodas is leaps and bounds worse and so is roshi. And the consequences isn't what I'm referring to when I say he gets shit on but that's fair
First episode: Women sometimes have to use their bodies to get popular because reality is harsh. The rest of the show: It's cool when adults groom kids to use their bodies for attention as long as as those kids are female. First episode: Anyone can be a hero if they try hard enough even if they're abilities suck. The rest of the show: Unless they're female. Then their abilities don't matter.
@@netflix223 Todoroki's mom is mainly hospital bound traumatized and is only active as a fighter in the final act, and her whole character and backstory is written based on how the men (her eldest and youngest son and her husband) reacted to her trauma rather than her perspective on her trauma, and the giant woman is more fetish gear for giantess fetishizers than a character. The fact that you had to describe all the female characters you listed as "male character's mom", "child," "woman", and "washing machine female hero" instead of their names just shows how irrelevant the mass majority of the female characters are in MHA LOL.
you just KNOW that once my hero wraps up, horikoshi is gonna show the students aged up. and Minetas either gonna be super attractive, or a teacher at ua. and its gonna be messed up no matter what
Yeah, most likely. If we do getta time skip, I’m hoping Mineta’ll learn the errors of his ways, and end up a loser with 3 divorces or something. Not that I hate the character or anything lol
Three year old video, no one is gonna see this comment, but when you highlighted the Ura vs Bakugo fight my mind immediatly jumped to Nobara v Momo in JJK. Like I thought that fight was SO cool and empowering and it made me excited about the series, but then both Nobara and Momo are sidelined. It's like these authors include these moments early in a series for the feminist kudos and then shuffle the characters off stage to focus on what they really want to write.
As a straight male, I can say with almost 100% certainty that practically nobody likes too much fan service. And don’t even get me started on Mineta. He is the worst fictional character probably ever, and I think everybody can agree on that
Fax I couldn’t Finnish fire force which hurt me cause it was really cool but if they weren’t fighting (hell sometimes when they were fighting) It’s just straight up titty and ass on screen 💀
Same. Also I’m a gay man so you can imagine how aggravating it is to watch an anime that seems clean (as clean as you can get with violence lol) only for it to show panty or booby shots. Of characters meant to be minors, no less!!
There was a scene where Uraraka told Deku she was embarrassed about her skin-tight jumpsuit and should have been more specific about the costume she wanted. I think she should have asked for a big costume change after that. Also also anyone else imagined Uraraka with a wig suit so she can float herself up and glide through the air? And thrusters on her back, arms and legs? Also what if she got more martial arts training after her time with Gunhead. Maybe get some gloves with metal knuckles and/or other martial arts related weapons?
I totally forgot about that scene but you’re right! That’s another example of like… why didn’t the character just ask for what she wanted out of a costume then? The idea for wings on her costume is super cool too. I’d love to see someone draw it. Thank you for watching and for your comments!!!
@@violettracey Maybe a solar powered one? (Her suit could include tiny little solar panels on the black areas that are flush to the suit for ease of movement)
Really good analysis :) You gained a subscriber. (Also, 21k dislikes? Ooooof, incels out in force it seems lol. Seriously though... this is the most reasonable, fan-made critique ever. the fact so many people found that objectionable is ridiculous)
FINALLY a video that doesn’t just go “big boobs bad” or “revealing outfits bad” or even “sexual stuff bad”. It explains why these things didn’t work under specific circumstances, and how to write this stuff better moving forward. Thank you for actually having a good take and explaining this from a reasonable standpoint.
I mean, in all fairness, I genuinely hate that people have to dedicate 10-15 minutes of a video to explaining the difference between sexual empowerment, sex for plot, and sex solely for titillation before they can start making a point, but that's sadly where general literacy of the issue is. If you don't do that, you get HUNDREDS of bad counter-examples where the thinnest veneer of explanation for fanservice is applied (like with Momo's costume) to explain some pretty blatantly male gaze-y stuff. It has always been pretty obvious that when people describe stuff like this as egregious, they don't necessarily mean sex and sexuality is bad. It is entirely an issue of focus and what a character exists for.
No. The girls are canonically 15-16 and 100% sexualised for the male gaze. Non of them are old/intelligent to understand their sexuality and none of them own it either. This is just one of the bigger issues with shonen anime.
@@sabsain2399 not to say that the over sexualization of them is okay (cause its not) but generally from my own knowledge and understanding 15/16 is actually when people start exploring that side of themselves more, with in many countries 16 directly being the age where you're allowed to have sex with others your own age. I've heard most people either first have sex when 15/16 or when 20+.
exactly, except that 99% of the characters are 15-16 yr olds and still manage to be sexualized (and trust me it gets worse with the nsfw content out there) - it's sad that this isn't talked about ENOUGH in the mha community.
Also Momo in the show is much skinner than she is in the manga, Momo’s quirk works from fat cells so shes chubbier in the manga It’s not just momo either, most of the girls are a little chubby due to them eating to maintain the calories they burn while exercising, they just don’t bulk like the guys do so they are chubbier, they even downsized Mina’s muscles because she’s much more built in the manga 🤔 Edit: I also believe the girls are chubbier because if they get hit it’ll be less of an impact and not hurt them as much, Kirishima learnt that from fat gum I believe and he isn’t built anymore, he’s a bit chubby :)
I’m not super into the video so idk if she has mentioned this, but the animation team made chubby females much skinnier for the sake of “animation being easier” Not that I agree with it but that’s the official reason why characters like ochako and momo are sized down
@@loyalhack probably drawing a realistic body shape for a girl is way easier than drawing defined abs and muscles for a male character. so if we translate that to animation animating one buff dude should break the bank but it never does?
Seriously, Nejire being one of the big three is basically just having a token female character in a group of three characters. . Nejire has a powerful and interesting Quirk, but is consistently sideline. By comparison, Sun Eater and Lemilion both get to showcase their skills, by taking on villains just by themselves. Nejire, doesn't have that despite a Quirk that can take down big villains. There are some people saying: Well, Nejire did have an arc and spotlight during the beauty pageant. Like, wow. If a hero's great arc was a pageant then why be in a school where you are trained to be a hero?? Ryuku, a hero who literally can transform to a Dragon, which means she could be very strong, yet doesn't showcase it at all. Love that bits of additional scene in the recent scene with her, but the fact that Endeavour seemingly had more physical strength than a literal dragon is so disappointing. I mean, Endeavour is muscular but his quirk is just Fire manipulation. Sure he is muscular but Ryuky can turn to a giant Giant Dragon! She can do more! I could go on but, eh, MHA is just disappointing in a lot of aspects...
@DIO Over Heaven well…the anime magically had enough time to develop many male characters, but not a single female student got a proper arc? like come on even the most useless guys in bnha had better moments if not arcs to show their growth they literally have no excuse to not put as much effort in the female cast
Who…the fuck…cares? Nejire is not a token female character, they’re just…a character. Oh yeah, you also completely forgot about Mirko who literally took on multiple high end nomus like a badass and fought until her body was torn apart. If that’s not enough for you, then too bad, stop watching MHA and go find another anime that will conform to your sensibilities.
"So uh.. Eraserhead, right? What did you say your power was again?"
"The male gaze."
This is so fucking funny
May you tell me what Eraserhead did "wrong" that my man deserves it? ):
yo can I steal this joke for a skit?
@@LGC14 nothing at all lol
it's just cause his power is vision based, aka "gaze" based, so it fit well
also I really just wrote out the joke that happens around 4:25 in the vid, so it ain't even my idea
@@imannami just wrote out the joke op made visually at around 4:25 so better ask them lol
Momo's power is honestly funnier if her costume opened from the back instead of the chest. Like she just randomly reaches behind her back and pulls out something that was definitely not behind her back
That sounds like it would be hilarious, why didn't they go for that? (easy answer, TiTtIeS)
It’d be like a really cool backpack!
Yeah like what if she had like a stage magician aesthetic with how she creates things out of thin air
Proceeds to pull the Glock from her back
She just pulls out a comically long string of sausages
my biggest issue with uraraka’s sidelining is that she and iida were first shown with deku as the main trio but then both were sidelined for bakugo and todoroki with deku
edit: I dont wanna delete this but this opinion isnt held anymore (i mean it is slightly but not nearly as much and more so towards Iida cause his ass was sidelined)
They are just more popular and easier to use, cant really blame the author.
how are they easier to use like i can see the popularity but at the same time if iida and uraraka had remained apart of the main trio they mightve been more popular
@@MyNameIsNotSteve their powers are more flashy,that's mostly it, how cool are explosions and ice and fire compared to what they got? If you wanna create hype its easier to use the ones that actually have something to use for hype.
@@andrewacacia9851 i see ur point but Iida can easily generate hype too cause his is also pretty flashy (not as flashy as bakugo or todoroki): giant flames coming out his legs and while uraraka doesnt have something visually flashy her quirk allows for more unique combat rather then what todoroki or bakugo offer on another note just because a character is more popular or “easier to use” (which is a dumb way to put it uraraka and iida arent difficult to use but i understand what ur saying) doesnt mean that the main trio should be switched up in aot Levi is super popular but he isnt part of the main trio neither is gojo in jujustu kaisen or kakashi in naruto they remain close to the group but they dont take over as a member of the main trio
Well I really like that bakugo is in there he has history with the MC so it makes sense.
Part of the reason Iida is one of my favorite characters is cause he felt disgusted and appalled by Mineta trying to spy on the girls cause he genuinely respects the fact that the girls shouldn’t be objectified. Iida is a good boy and I like that.
Iida is my fav character overall
Finally, someone had to say it.
@leo Yeah, it's easy to see that Horikoshi empathizes with Mineta's POV, but I appreciated Iida's reaction being emphatically against doing anything to make his female classmates feel embarrassed or objectified since he said it and meant it. Cause in a lot of other anime/manga they have a person says they aren't in favor of objectifying their female friends but show that they're just as lusty and want to. I was proud of Iida for being too respectful to even consider violating any of his friends' privacy.
@@Nightman221k but the sad thing is, what you just described is just the bare minimum. it feels almost dystopian to see people actually *relieved* or prideful when a character they like respects/empathises with women or is repulsed by perverted actions, but it's the sad truth even in this day and age. :(
@@aithusae7489 Exactly, I wish it was the norm not the exception.
The worst part about mineta is that he didn't even get bullied, he was just jealous that some other guy in his class was more popular with women than him.
Could you imagine your primary motive for becoming a hero beimg that you wanted to prove some twitter user who ssid L + no bitches wrong? Cause that's mineta. That's his character
If anything he prives L + no bitches right,no wiman has EVER willingly let him do or say any of that weird shit
Didnt get bullied ? You didnt watch show from what I can see. He literally gets a electricity chair for a Christmas gift and forced to sit on it. You think thats fair or funny? If the answer is yes then you are worse then Mineta ))
@BuKorostearu that is when he is at UA, not when he was at his middle school where this origin happens, different times
@@germanscience7246 what do you know about his middle school ? I dont know anything
@@BuKorostearu it's literally shown in a small flashback during the final exam episode
You know what sucks especially about Momo's hero costume? The original concept sketch that the mangaka came up with really wasn't that bad. Like, it was actually a sports bra that completely covered her chest up past the neck, leaving the back open. And then a high-wasted bikini-type bottom w/ s normal belt and knee-length boots. It was the editors(?) that told him to change into something more "appealing."
Wait what- that's so fucked up.
Do you have a link or something to the original designs, I wanna see.
i once saw a redesign of momo which changed her outfit to a more proper dress/bodysuit type thing that was just covered in zippers on her arms and legs and back that she could open to reveal some skin for her power (probably not doing the description justice since im going off memory) but im so sad that's not the actual design cuz it was so cool
I actually like her costume looks cool it's the same like how I like Wonder woman.
@@Monochrome2004Im pretty sure I saw that too, I think the Artist is LavenderTowne. Her art is amazing!
momos costume is no way even practical in any sense. velcro, buttons, zippers, they all exist. and that dumb belt thing?? it doesn’t look good, it doenst add anything, i don’t get it. and why does she have a weird book thing on her butt??? again: NOT PRACTICAL. she could’ve gotten a smart watch or an eye thing or smart-glasses that have info on them. the heels ofc are a bad thing. the whole outfit is bad. and i haven’t seen anyone talk about this before but has anyone noticed the weird and diffrent way they draw girl charcaters running opposed to boy characters running??? even when the girl character is way stronger or faster or older than the boy character??? and ofc there’s ALWAYS heels. can people stop putting girls in heels when they’re supposed to run jump and do stuff that requires a lot of footwork???
Oh my god, you're so right about Mina. She was my favorite character when I started reading the manga, it was so cool how she dealt with that trenchcoat dude, and... that's pretty much it. The author has a bad habit of making cool characters, giving them a cool moment, and then benching them. It feels to me like he's sincerely trying to include female characters but his desire to tell a story about manly men keeps taking over.
Mina deserves so much better… such a cool quirk and interesting set up to explore her character but ultimately… not much. Also, I totally agree re: introduction -> cool moment -> sidelines, it seems to be Horikoshi’s pattern with his female characters. It’s super frustrating!!
yes I agree fs, its just you can't write 28 characters in one story or at the same time so its like taking turns and I wish it was like that
bc the story is meant to focus on the main character?
@@LadyIneia it's sexist in a nice way cause of the modern times the author made sure the cast was overly likeable so the series gets away with it...the sexism is still there....the writing barley cares about them or uses them....otherwise omg...20 years ago they would be less nice and 10 years ago people would rage about it more so ...cause no one cared back in 2000 but then internet forums post sharing social media became a thing...now people care more....so you have to tiptoe around that and make everyone have nice characterization...good you still noticed it.....if your going to be sexist at least write an interesting narrative and my hero can't even do that right saldy so the sexism sticks out more...otherwise we can forgive it and get distracted talking about other things we like...I don't even care about sexism much but it's so blatant in my hero that the author hates writing females with depth....it's a shame cause it's fans promote it like it's different and it appeals to people who care about that stuff...if only it did not have a fanbase like that we could look past it
@@razkable this is why Marvel and DC are better I love anime with all my heart but the main issue I have with it is that so many shonen have terrible female characters this is why Western comics do female characters Justice comic books are failing while manga is winning but to this day I still stand with the comic book industry cuz have been creating female Heroes for decades
In Bakugou vs Ochaco fight, Bakugou & Aizawa were the only two people taking her seriously. Every other character shamed Bakugou for being harsh with Ochaco because Ochaco is a girl. Ochaco herself said she wanted people to take her seriously & was happy when Bakugou did. Bakugou himself said she wasn't weak that's why he put up a good fight.
It shocks me how there are a lot of female heros in mha but when Bakugou fights Ochaco seriously, they all started calling him abusive ☠as a girl, I would rather lose fairly in a fight then someone piting me & going easy on me.
And then the show starts treating the girls like that unironically lmfao
If i was to fight anyone, girl or boy, i would fight the same, serious with both.
@@averageduckenjoyerthefinalk
@@MalevolentBackshotter Ngl, I would never fight a female even if she hit me
The thing I find especially weird is that even the other girls in the class, namely Tsu, also shat on Bakugo for that??
The gist of the intro is
"Just because most animes suck at representing women and MHA *has* women, doesn't mean that it is free from misogyny"
There is absolutely nothing that can be said to justify Mineta sexualizing a SIX YEAR OLD
Wasn't that shit mistranslated, It was never supposed to be sexualization. It was a statement that was mistranslated and sounded even worse coming outta Mineta's mouth because.... well... he's Mineta
Mineta is a bad person that's his whole purpose the school pervert.
@@CantHandleThis6
People don't understand that Mineta is seen as awful.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 Yeah he is awful but that doesn't change the fact that he's pretty well written and is also one of the most competent member of the class as the only person with a 5/5 intelligence stat only beaten by momo with her 6/5. His Hype moments are also really good, People just tend to hate him for his pervertedness and ignore the rest of his character. He's a coward but can get stuff done when he needs to
which is why i love him (Wish he would dial back his depraved side tho, act more like kaminari in a sense)
The "they need to be half naked for their powers to work" excuse falls apart in MHA when you like at Mirio. His quirk allows him to phase his body through solid objects, but not whatever he's wearing. And while this is used for some comedic relief when he's first introduced, when we get to the serious part of the arc, it's shown he has a specially made costume that incorporates his hair, allowing him to use his powers freely while staying fully clothed. If you can have a work around like that, why is half the female cast be half naked?
Edit: The point I'm making is less "use hair suits for momo and toru" it's "the mangaka has shown that they're willing and able to make work arounds for male characters to keep them clothed, but not female characters." If Horikoshi really cared about practicality, he could invent a reason why they could stay clothed enough, because mha is a sci-fi series that takes place 80 years in the future. That's how writing and world building works. It's shameless fanservice Horikoshi is hiding behind a flimsy excuse. And the flimsy excuse annoys more more than the fanservice itself.
Edit 2: How to make invisible clothing from invisible hair: Use washable dye on hair, cut hair, weave strands into suit, wash out dye. Boom! Invisible suit and that's not accounting for any sci-fi tech or quirks that would make the process easier.
I hadn’t thought of that as a counter example from within the show but you’re so right!! Like why not use Momo’s hair in her costume so she can pass objects through her clothes and therefore have a more armored outfit like??? Very frustrating lol.
@@LadyIneia Or make a hair suit for Invisible Girl so she’s not literally naked at all times! I know we can’t see it, but that can’t be comfortable or practical!
@@teapartypenguin1353 if Toru wore DNA hair shoes back in the first training Shoto would've been so confused
@@teapartypenguin1353 She was even stated to be freezing in the winter towards the end of the anime. It made no sense for her and the other girls not to develop their costumes more.
@@LadyIneia in Momo case you will need to skin her as all her items creation comes from the skin. So she will need a literal skin body suit
I was so mad when I realized they were basically abandoning Uraraka’s plot because I really fell in love with her character during her fight with bakugo
I loved her tenacity but was really wondering what her plan was if she managed to touch him. She kept reaching for him, but Bakugo had already demonstrated his ability to zoom through the air like a mini jet.
@@prosepeony I don’t remember exactly but I think it was more of a distraction to keep him focused on her so she could create the meteor shower at the end to try and take him out, if she managed to touch him that was probably just a nice addition yk. Making him float would mean he wouldn’t be able to use his power without also blasting him out of the ring.
@@KazzathanOh, it does make sense that she was trying to make him float inside the cluster of rocks since that would limit his options. He definitely defies physics with his explosions though.
@@prosepeony oh totally. Even if he wasn’t floating using his explosions should make him fly away with the kickback but that’s just anime logic lol. I’m not complaining tho MHA does more than most anime’s to try and give an in universe explanation for their abilities
@@Kazzathan Yeah, I’m not complaining either. If I were told he holds himself in place through sheer anger I would say that tracks, lol.
God, the uraraka section struck me because for the longest time I was absolutely convinced that her lack of anything resembling development was a deliberate thing to hide her status as the UA Traitor. I was convinced that Horikoshi was a genius and that once Uraraka was revealed to be the traitor she would be given so much development that would cement her as the best female character in the show
I was... not correct. The sidelining got so much worse, its crazy.
You know what could have redeemed the concept of Mineta without changing literally anything about him? Don’t provide gratuitous shots of his harassment. Just imply to show how depraved he is. Make a point to show how hateable him and his behavior is but don’t give the viewer the objectifying views. When he is used as a bad example for viewers and the rest of the characters don’t tolerate that behavior, it could show the audience that people who behave like that are actually the worst
So make Mineta a villain?
@@camrenmugabe3062 are you defending him? He can be a pervert and not be strictly a villain. Ironically, the villains in this show tend to treat women better than Mineta does, so do with that what you will
@@tylerwebb2495 No I was just trying to think of a solution to have Mineta be a character that will appear to have a purpose in the story without having him be just comedic relief. Mineta sexually harassing the girls that he trains and fights with is not heroic.
@@camrenmugabe3062not necessarily. Showing and depicting bad behavior ranging from bakugo to straight up illegal isn't a bad thing, unless it's being encouraged or tossed aside as a joke. Like the commenter said, they could keep mineta being a perverted loser to some degree, but show more than the girl's disgust as their reactions only add to the trope. Maybe have the guys purely ignore him, or actively hold him hostage rather than encouraging him like kaminari. Show he's a gross character-not just by physical appearance (mainly cuz that only adds to the idea that attractive people can be creeps without being considered creeps, which is still gross) but by direct and indirect dialogue/reactions.
Maybe they could use that as a building block, where he realizes quickly that everyone else is maturing while he's still focused on boobs; he loses friends (of he has any) as the story progresses, classmates straight up ignore him, he's not invited to little hangouts, etc. And because he refuses to focus on being a hero, he's either nearly kicked out from UA/Yuuei or during some training thing, he realizes his skills are far behind everyone else's. He can't keep up and repeatedly fails. Perhaps then he could be an interesting character-theres nothing wrong with having a sexuality, but there is a problem with sexual harassment. He could possibly realize an actual goal he has for becoming a hero, probably something actually cool and ironic like saving children/people from r@pe related situations, being the exact opposite of who he was.
And this is just me being the lackluster writer I am, I don't think him being hit with a gender swap quirk or being dressed up as a girl only to experience harassment would work. That, or a gay character harassing him. Neither example would work efficiently, one would simply be hypocritical and the other...kinda selfish that he has to experience harassment as a "girl" to understand why it's bad.
Also, m*neta isn't competent enough to be a villain. He's far too pathetic for that.
I think I know what you’re saying. It’s like on The Magic Schoolbus when Carlos gives a bad joke and the class goes “Caaarlooos!”
It’s like that on MHA. Mineta does a creepy bit and the class just goes “Minetaaaa!” *laugh track, fades to black*
Thoughts:
• Even as a straight guy, I get a little tired of the gratuitous sexiness.
• Mineta's terribleness might not be infuriating if he were actually punished. Sure, he gets bopped on the head, or forcibly restrained a few times, but it's always played off as a harmless joke. He can't keep getting away with it!
• The Bubble-Girl predicament is mega weird and I wish it didn't exist.
Gotta agree here, I feel like this appeals less to straight-malss and more to just weird people in general.
I'd be fine with the bubble girl thing if they tied up everyone to a tickle machine, I think I'd be funnier that way.
Midnight weirded me out at times, like having some sort of sexual thoughts towards her students working together. I'd feel like if the genders were reversed, the double standards would come in.
It also makes it hard to watch with other people.
I dont think anyone likes mineta in general
@@randomslayer9018
"Weird people". This is the definition of Japanese people. Trust me, they don't look like it when you don't know them but once you do, they truly are... Not everyone ofc but lots of them.
“MHA isn’t weird, it’s the fandoooom!!😭😭😭”
The show:
The show is fuking amazing girl
The todoroki drama, the fights, the villains
You have to make your opinion after watching it
@@akhandtripathipyz9888 It falls off pretty hard very quickly sadly. I'd recommend watching it up to the All Might AFO fight and quitting right there.
@@crazagres1839that’s just not true at all
@@shiroufan5401 Wish it wasn't, but it is. Not much to add to it.
@@crazagres1839 so you really think that everything after the all might and all for one fight is bad?
What makes me mad even more is that Ururaka HAD potential. With the knowledge that she’s in the hero business for money to help her parents who struggled financially and her abilities are pretty impressive with how she applies them.
Then we get so little about her right after. Just… ugh…
Some people were mad that she mainly wanted to be a hero for money, even though it was for a completely unselfish reason. However, Bakugou only wanting to be a hero to show off his quirk is encouraged
That's right! I thought she would be a main, along with Ida! I really like Todoroki and Bakugo is a given, he is clearly important but why do those two (espesially Uraraka) get almost 0 screen time?
@@jevil_owo People got mad about it?? She literally explained a second later after revealing she's doing it for money that she's doing it for her broke family and we even get a flashback to it. Wtf is wrong some people?
exactly. uraraka has the potential to drop BUILDINGS NOT ROCKS . but they arent gonna do it sadly😞
@@Euphoria965 ... She's got a weight limit, just like every other character's got a something-limit.
The author openly admitted that uruaka was supposed to have a flashy and cool quirk… not just float then he realizesd, “it was too much for a main heroine.” WTF
I'm pretty sure she was supposed to have Mt lady's quirk but then horikoshi changed it to the zero gravity quirk because "it would've shadowed the main boys" or smth like that.
Wow, a wonder why a irrelevant character wouldn't have a stronger ability than the main character, hmmmmmmm
@@dentonmccray8691 Deku's character is literally about putting in the hard work and time to succeed even if you're at a disadvantage compared to your peers, why would her having a flashier quirk be a problem??
@kyaraha 🤡
@@100organicfreshmemes5when did I say it was a problem? I'm just saying, doesn't make all to much sense for a character that pretty much has nothing to do with the main story to be stronger than the mc
I think LavenderTowne redesigned Momo’s custom as like a ballerina inspired two piece cloth that lifts when she spins to give her bare skin to create objects. I absolutely loved that design as it gave more to her elegant and wealthy background rather than just man-service.
YUS LAVENDERTOWNE!!! I also watched that video and loved that design!
Edit: Wait, I have 100 likes?? I know people get, like, 2K a lot but to everyone who liked this, this means a lot, thank you!
She’s going to get nauseous real fast though
@@couldntthinkofaname360 Oh yeah XD
Man-service. Oh yes. Because only men are attracted to stuff like that. Get outta here with that nonsense.
@@rattersworld1016 exactly why I prefer basically everything from the zipper design (but not the arms, there’s no reason to have two differencing styles unless it’s easier to zip one off while the other one is for more practicality or something)
uraraka reminds me of sakura from naruto a lot, who has her strong and powerful moments, but ultimately she is "just a girl" and most male characters get to shine a lot more than her despite her being part of the main three at the beggining.
Frr thoo
it's a "shounen" its literally aimed at male audience...I'm not tryna offend anyone but that's what it falls under...there's other genre with females under the spotlight, like shoujo or maybe some isekai
@@rohanjoethomas5806 the target audience being boys doesn't excuse sexism. It's normal that the genre will define what kinds of characters will get the most screentime but that doesn't mean that the shows should treat all the other cast as unimportant and write them poorly. It's bad writing regardless of who is supposed to watch it. The point of showing the sexism in BNHA isn't to say that females should be in the spotlight, but to show that the series doesn't care about female characters AT ALL. The goal isn't to make every piece of media center women or be absolutely equal about who it focuses on, that's an extreme way of looking at the issue. The goal is to make sure that women in popular media, like shounen anime, are not reduced to just eye candy or other tropes because that sort of thing reflects on our society even if its a silly action anime about powerful teens.
@@rohanjoethomas5806 men wont melt alive if there's a female character who can hold her own against the boys.
The fan-made costumes for Momo make her seem like a badass warrior queen! She actually looks like a hero, instead of fanservice.
I'm not sure if she needs to be a warrior when she can rely on her quirk and create weapons from that, although learning fighting skills like aizawa wouldn't hurt.
Her costume is fine to me, but I'd think a sports bra would work better.
@@ProjektTaku She definitely needs specific training to use the weapons she creates. Sure she can make a whole military arsenal, but she has no proper training to use any of it.
With the clothes she wears, she definitely cant use melee weapons effectively. Her footwork would be inconvenienced by her weird pantsless skirt, her top limits her torso movement and really serves no purpose other than showing off her assets, and she has no protection at all.
@@ProjektTaku I absolutely despise the actual costume, it doesn't seem practical at all.
time stamp?
@@futurestrongestman honestly feel a bit ridiculous to have such a strong reaction for her design when almost all their costume don't make sense when you think about it. look at bakugo, the guy literally has bricks as a collar, he shouldn't even be able to turn his head. kirishima has wheels around his shoulders, can't even imagine moving with that. iida wears a fucking armor, why would he wear something that makes him slower when his speciality is speed. and mineta's.. pants ? diaper ? don't even know what that is.
The sad thing about Horikoshi's writing is that with the Uraraka vs. Bakugo he's proved he IS capable of writing good female characters. He just doesn't want to. He gives us that one scene making us think there'll be more like it, and then never again.
Ikr. I rlly want someone to make a really good, developed unsexalised female character that's useful and strong. As a girl myself, it rlly annoys me when people underplayed female characters especially when they have a lot of potential
@@hibakhan692try Katara from Avatar: The last Airbender
@@sebastianfeuerstein9306 do you have any more recommendations? Just wondering
@@hibakhan692 unfortunately not. Its been a while ever since I watched animation of any kind. My memory's really foggy, only characters from ATLA come to mind. Katara, Toph, Kyoshi etc. 😅
@@hibakhan692Fullmetal alchemist. Witch hat atelier. Demon slayer. All female authors bre
I also find it ironic that male authors treat their female characters this way but get puzzled when fans start shipping two male characters that actually had development together (I’m looking at you naruto)
I see this with fans too. They hate the people who ship the main gay ship (aka the only two characters with any kind of personality) but when you ask them why they ship the canon het ship it always boils down to “because it’s canon”. These female characters aren’t love interests, they’re accessories.
Maybe they ship the canon ship because. Its just canon its the way it is so to speak. Also i dont think a lot of shonen watchers really care about romance. I know i sure dont care about it
I mean Naruto literally kissed Sasuke. If you're denying that Naruto has some bi energy going on I don't know what to say to you. 😂
boy x girl in anime: worst romance
boy x boy: masterpiece bromance
no. nothing to do with it. people will always force gay relationships with no hinting towards it just for the fun of it
When i heard the mineta hate, i physically jumped out of my chair and cheered out loud.
i WILL use mineta as a basketball if i ever see him in real life.
“Lust” from Fullmetal Alchemist is the perfect example of a sexy female character done right. She’s in full control of her sexuality and knows when to use it to her advantage AND she’s dangerous. She’s not some submissive shy girl who was given revealing clothes for the male gaze.
Big fan of Lust, and big fan of Fullmetal Alchemist. All the women in that series *chef's kiss*
Same for Esdeath from Akame Ga Kill
You know that's how female villains are right?
Helps that FMA was written by a woman.
@@ObaREX A woman and a proffesional writer. A little of fresh air in a industry made by young mysoginistic men
Another thing is that we actually get a moment at the start of the series where the female costumes are pointed out, when Uraraka mentions that the costume makers made hers too tight and gave her heels for literally no reason. And then it's just brushed off like it didn't happen, none of the girls change their costumes and the fan-service and objectification continues.
And her costume designer is revealed to be a woman, but I am not excusing that because Uraraka's costume still looks like ass shit aside her equipment (wrists and ear pieces). What was Uraraka's original costume idea??
@@adrielleakuryo I think her canon og costume was supposed to be like a pink bubbly astronaut suit, she has a space vibe going on
@@GhostbyTv Her original hero design would've looked adorable. Why would her designer make her suit skin tight and give her heels? From what I heard from one of the comments of this video, the skin tight suit would make the nausea worse and doesn't Uraraka need ankle mobility for her feet? And what the hell was the point of the belt??
this is why thirteen's costume is one of the only good female hero costumes. shounen writers need to learn that you don't have to be able to see every part of a woman/girl's body, even if their outfit is supposed to be "practical for combat".
At this point, I just think Horikoshi is just weird and sexist.
Honestly, the fact that Shonen is aimed at young boys makes it even more important to present well rounded Women characters. Young boys are bombarded with poor portrayals of women and every chance to fight that is valuable.
Couldn’t put it any better!
Agree to disagree I feel like Shonen should imbrace proper representation but there not babysitting. Side note I feel like most people in MHA is sideline because of power difference. Example Overhaul arc was dealing with heavy hitters that likely won't push the female(student) cast without either easily defeating or relying on help.
i dont think shonen is really aimed at young boys just saying that like One Piece, Naruto and Dragon Ball arent that good either or any other shonen i know
i got an update for you Shonen isnt aimed for young boys its aimed for younger male people meaning teenager and young adults too so if its aimed for male people zthey dont need to do it for the youngest one they can do it for teenagers if they want to so your argument isnt really good
@@milkyjuice646 if people like you wouldnt give anime the fault for sexism you could see the actual reasons for sexism
Bro they even male gaze the invisible character? You can't even see her. 💀
lmao
I've definitely read too many fanfic. When you mentioned you don't like Mt lady, I was like "man I love her charecter." Then I remembered I got her mixed up with fanfic depictions where she actually has a place in the story
I have that with a lot of characters, especcially Ochako. She doesn't get enough screentime to be a cool rescue hero. And the most intresting part of her canon depiction is her being Toga's character foil.
I think you meant Midnight but yeah. It’s sad. 🥺 I am glad that more people are developing her and showing her love in fanfics, though!
Oof. Yeah sometimes I tend to mix up characters with how they are in cannon with how they are in fan fiction occasionally as well. So I know how ya feel.
@@tomsky4751 The shippers seem to do that 24/7 as well.
AJSJSHDJJD felt that 💀
One of the worst things the story has done to Uraraka was that her original motive of supporting her family ends up taking a backseat to her newfound desire of trying to be like Deku.
Out of all of the characters, Uraraka's motivation felt the most realistic and relatable. Even Deku points out that her goal is more grounded than anyone else's, and that she's not trying to live out some "hero fantasy" like the rest of them. She just wants to support her family, like many people in real life who get jobs purely with that goal in mind.
But for whatever reason, after the Sports Festival arc, it became less and less about supporting her family, and more and more about being like "dream boy protagonist". This is not helped by the fact that she and Ida take a major backseat as Todoroki and Bakugo are pushed more and more into the spotlight.
Plus, I think its deeply depressing that Uraraka's most defining moment as a character, without any help from anyone else, was her losing to Bakugo. It's not the fact that she lost that bothers me, but it's the fact that she's never had a moment like that again. A moment where she goes all out, by herself, against an extremely strong opponent.
To be fair ida moment in the show was him losing to stain
Wut, Ochako literally can't do anything about her family situation until after she's already become a pro. She isn't getting any money as a student.
Being the best hero she can be until she makes it her profession, thats the goal, her admiring Deku and taking after him will only make her better and does not erase her long term dream.
You're confusing a character respecting and admiring another with them completely revolving around that said character. That is not the case with Uraraka cuz she respects deku alot but she also focuses on her goals and still has great development.
She’s not trying to be like Deku: more like she’s taking inspiration from him. There’s a big difference and it’s not only her I mean look at the provisional exam when Momo and the others were in the building; when Momo couldn’t decide what to do she remembered what Deku said and changed her focus on helping her classmates pass. Uraraka is not trying to be like Deku that’s why in the sports festival she denied his help because she wants to be independent and use her own mind.
Also you make it sound like the only reason why she became a hero is to help her parents. Yes in the long run she’s going to work for her parents but Uraraka likes to help others too.
1) yes agree with you Urarakas character had been reduced to "Deku love interest/fangirl". Not to say that's all she is now, definitely not, shes still one if the nest best female if the shield and anime in general bc she is her own person, complex, likeable etc... BUT most of here relevance and motivation has become increasingly Deku centred and I *HATE* IT! its actually is the main reason why i cant ship Izuku and her, because its literally degenerating her character
2) and dont worry Urarakas next big moment (that has NOTHING) to with Izuko is coming soon, and many soon after. Which us why i maintain that she is still a great main character, but it also should notve taken this long, also aloy of her growth is covered in the manga only and even there it's just a sideways 'just by the way' kind if thing. So she will and has grown bc of that fight but it's not the focus if her or the story and it does irk me
You know what could have been an AMAZING side-plot/form of world building? How heroes such as Midnight, Mt Lady, and even Momo feel pressure to showcase their bodies for popularity.
It could honestly be a really mature way to tackle this subject, whilst having consistency!
Heck, Hawks gives fanservice because he KNOWS it’ll make him more popular. What about the women?
They did have a side chapter about this actually. Midnight doesn't showcase her body for popularity, she does it because her exposed skin is required to release her quirk, which is why her original costume was so scandalous and required the officials to enforce stricter regulations on hero costumes as a result. Mt. Lady, meanwhile, thinks that Midnight pushes things too far which increases the pressure on "younger" heroes to keep up. This resulted in a fight.
As for Momo, this was actually a part of her storyline during the Internship / Hero Killer arc, wherein she was scouted by a pro not for being talented, strong, etc. but because she was a cute girl and spent the entire week as her personal assistant, and was forced to start in a shampoo commercial. She spent her time trying desperately to think of a deeper lesson that she was missing and has not returned to that agency in the aftermath, or spoken of that hero. This contributed to her inferiority complex which she came out of during the exam arc, when Todoroki revealed that he placed a high enough value on her mental faculties that he voted for her as Class Rep.
@@flamemasterelan Which all goes to waste as Momo's biggest contribution to the series is sticking a tracker on something. What a character arc am I right?
@@flamemasterelan Momo also sometimes has to make things out of her chest.
@@flamemasterelan This isn't what they were asking for. They wanted arcs that had the balls to actually make this the point of focus. Not a side element that appears new and intelligent for shounen, but comes off as transparent when Horikoshi continues to shallowly exploit and degrade the girls for laughs without ever getting any deeper.
@@flamemasterelan she wears a sheer leotard and thigh high boots... She apparently doesn't need her skin showing to use her quirk.
This video is 3yrs old but I always come back to it when I’m studying or cleaning. I think it would be really cool if u revisited this topic especially with how far the anime is and now that the manga has ended. I think some things have definitely stayed the same (Mineta, how the girls are treated in fandom spaces etc) but arcs like Uraraka and Toga have honestly surprised me so much and I didn’t expect that
The thing that drives me crazy about the “it’s necessary for their powers” argument for Momo and Midnight is Mirio. We have a whole scene explaining that when he uses his power he ends up butt naked. BUT lucky for him they somehow made a usable fabric out of his HAIR so that that doesn’t have to happen. If they can use crazy logic to keep Mirio clothed, the could have for the girls. But you know, Mirio is a guy.
exactly i've been saying for ages now that self healing polymers are a thing in real life so why couldn't momo and midnight make their skinsuit things out of that and maybe some small metal claws to cut it for use before it seals back up, add on to that momo's magician work study teacher she could lean into the magician angle with the long flowy cloak and sleeves giving her creations a kind of slight of hand vibe, and midnight could maybe use a small body armor with gas compressors or whatever built in so she can do a similar thing to bakugos gauntlets but full body like there are ways to make this work
What annoys me is that they didn’t need even need to go to those lengths. Unlike Mirio, Momo and Midnight’s quirks fall under the “produce something” category. Almost everyone with quirks in the “produce something” category do the producing through their hands. We even have a one-off character Mustard whose quirk is
virtually _identical_ to Midnight’s (the gas is even the same color!) who manages to be fully clothed, gloved, and even has a damn gas mask on.
@@WhitePaintbrush excellent point I'd honestly blanked on mustard existing entirely, however I will say with momo's love for cannons and large objects in general, an option for her abdomen or something might be good just for surface area I would suggest her back but I feel like that'd be a little awkward to maneuver what she creates into place
Mirio's entire body is able to phase, so it makes sense that using part of his body's DNA, his hair, in his suit can allow it to phase with him. It wouldn't make sense with Momo, because she doesn't phase anything, she creates objects with her fat. That being said, in Midnight's case I'm sure Hatsume or someone could make a fabric that allows her quirk to seep through but well it's her personality to be femme fatale like Catwoman or Black Cat
Actually Midnight's is just that she's a freak, and Momo can only create things from her actual body, hair is dead cells and if it were cut off and sewn into a fabric it wouldn't make a difference
It's kinda sad how Momo is treated like a store in the final battle. What a wasted character, she could be literally a walking arsenal.
she could just show up with a gun she just made maybe an artillery gun full of knockout gas the possibilities are endless
Momo is one of those characters who can be insanely broken but is nerfed because of it.
momo is weak. she is slow af she has no physical power and has, guns are joke in mha too so. no. no her ability is not broken enough.
@@leviackergoat8979 bro super resiliance on the level where a gun won't do the job are pretty rare plus "if a gun doesn't work use bigger gun"
@@delpoxi2958 if im not misaken, mom is at ua? so fighting Shigaraki is just way out of her league also bc she has a limit to how much she can create
Something that also annoys me is whenever the girls are involved, they are always told to help with rescuing or support. I know Uraraka and maybe some others want to be rescue heroes, but theres no way that all of them want to! And whenever they do get to fight they do like zero damage and get knocked out immediately
Meh, support or not, they are still heroes. That's all that matters.
The only female hero that was actually very strong and pro-active in fighting in that sense was Mirko in 6th season and I’m still so pissed about that. She was so fucking strong she could be fighting along the top heroes and be extremely helpful, but they won’t give any female characters actual significant development and participation
@@lkm630y79 uh momo and ochako were definitely active in the war.
Yeah there are very few female heroes given quirks suited to straight on fighting, like some are super powerful but more suited to more strategic and support kinda stuff like Momo and Uraraka, just let the girls be strong!! That's why Mirko was such a breath of fresh air for me, she's just destroying Nomu's left and right and took out like half of that lab that took multiple other powerful heroes including Endeavor to clean up the rest of it, I really hope she gets more screentime later on.
Testosterone is a thing
0:24 unfortunately. this happens. i say that from personal expirence. in 8th grade my class used to have a 19 guys and 5 girls . and it wasnt the best expirience .
Something worth noting is the interview where it looks like Mt Lady and Midnight are gonna talk about their sexy costumes. Basically, Midnight starts off with a good point, but then Mt Lady interrupts just to insult Midnight and it just turns into this weird catfight (also I think it ends with a shot of Mineta very much enjoying the interview...)
I forgot about that! How annoying for them to almost make a good point and then do a catfight lol. I definitely used that clip but didn't even think about the original context it was in. Wild. Thanks for watching and sharing!
One thing I hate is how the girls react to Mineta harassing them and touching them. They just get embarrassed and annoyed and then brush it off.
They don't think about it afterwards, they don't feel uncomfortable going to class, they don't have nightmares or flashbacks, they just forget about it.
That happens in other shows as well, not just MHA and it is so harmful for male viewers and invalidating for female viewers.
What I wouldn't give to see Momo just snap one day and beat the ever-loving shit out of that little creep
YES OMG THAT IS SO IMPORTANT!!!!!THESE WERE ALWAYS MY THOUGHTS AND THAT THIS WOULD ALSO SAY SOMETHIBG TO MEN AND BOYS. and i was right most boys really think its nothing that serious you think aboit every second you encounter a male. They toll me myself, and that actually just makes me scared more....
Literally exactly my thoughts while watching the show
God now I wanna see a Shounen where they introduce a character who seems like he'll be the resident pervert and catalyst of fanservice, but there's an arc dedicated to how his actions harm the girls around him and how they band together to get him booted. Consequences! Of! His! Actions!! Maybe there could even be reflections from the other guys about how they hadn't really questioned how complicit they were, and how they'll strive to be more thoughtful in the future
Yeah I get that it’s for humor and fanservice, everyone knows him as the class pervert so he’s whatever and that’s his usual actions but even that can be harmful to people’s minds making then think it’s okay to harass people.
Imagine little kids imitating the main character of their favorite movie after they watch that movie.
Mineta is the most disgusting character I have seen. This is because I myself relate to the clip where you showed Mineta sexualizing a 6 year old. I was sexualized in a similar manner when I was very young in the community that I was born in by boys who were early to late teens. It was horrifying because as I child I didn't understand the jokes or intentions and I was taken advantage because of it. It is scary, traumatizing and very dangerous if not put a stop to.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. :( (hug)
Blame the translators of that episode.
I mean, he's still not as disgusting as Zenitsu, I'll give him that
@@tienluong9648 how? zenitsu doesn’t touch girls inappropriately without their consent, and he isn’t constantly thinking about their bodies in a s3xuaI way either.
Dang how people still don’t get that shit was a translation error?If you want to hate him that’s fine,but don’t go on Unfairly demonizing him like that lol.
Your video PERFECTLY adress my point of view on fanservice, the difference between sexual objectification and sexual comedy or empowerment, and sexuality vs sexualization. You raised valid points especially pointing the one with male fanservice and how it is portrayed compared to female fanservice. And personnaly I'd like to add that this doesn't just appear in anime but video games too and I motly stand against it for the sake of women decency and men's mental health. great video 👍
I just realized, while the students have a "better" balance of girls to boys ratio, the same can't be said for the adults. It's mostly male heroes as major characters, what women there are all are side characters. A staggering amount of whom end up dead or de-powered.
Its makes sence since herous are based on real life millitaries
ok but can we talk about midnights costumes? you can already tell that hirokoshi does NOT know how boobs work. especially with the chain thingy that separates her boobs. just looking at the contraction makes me physically cringe. that looks like a medieval torture weapon, not a costume made for fighting villains.
RIGHT!!!! It makes me so upset that all the female heros are hypersexualized because i legitimately really like them
@@meow_XII Lady Nagant,Recovery Girl,Nana Shimura all mights literal mentor and Stars and Stripes.
@@chronopheonix589 Other than Nana they all get poultry time compared to other people, like hawks, best jeanist, and endeavor
The problem with Minata is not per se that he treats women like objects, but that this is treated as a joke and not more strongly condemned in the show. I hate him, and the other characters should as well. He has value if he can be used to demonstrate how terible he is, and how much he should truly be disliked. Honestly, his incel behavior is enough for him to be a minor villain.
The show was so close to doing this in so many occasions and then failed. It's sad.
he shouldve drowned for real in the usj arc 🙏🙏🙏
@@siilverREAL Okay, so spoilers for season 6:
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There's a traitor in class 1-A, and when my sister told me that she heard from season 7 spoilers that it wasn't Minetta, I was sad.
What makes this problem worse is that his behavior is used as an excuse to titillate the audience. *We are exclusively invited to see things from the sex offender's point of view.*
it's a tactic called 'lampshading'. Horikoshi deliberately uses Mineta to call out sexual harassment and objectification towards his female characters and 'condemn' them by having Mineta be comically punished over and over. However, Mineta is never outcasted for his behaviour. The boys 'dont claim him' and the girls report him for his behaviour, showing that, to an extent, the writer doesn't condone the behaviour of Mineta, however he is still a part of the class, never properly punished, never changes and is therefore enabled by his environment to continue being a sleaze. His behaviour IS treated as a joke, and I wish he WERE a minor villain OR there was a villain that reflects Mineta's behaviour and forces him to grow beyond his current ideals. The fact that the manga takes his sexual perversion and makes it his 'goal' and says 'welp I guess people are motivated by all different kinds of things! The ends justify the means I suppose (ie as long as he takes down bad guys, he's 'allowed' to be a pervert as some sort of treat)'
It's disappointing behaviour. That said, I do enjoy the female characters in the manga but more particularly fan interpretations of the characters - the fanfics I've read do the characters so much more justice to the interesting and cool women Horikoshi has written.
Also side note - the fact that the women in the manga are treated as pieces of meat seen in Midnight's explanation of her hero costume and it's just treated as an 'accepted' thing as opposed to something the characters should be working against is also disappointing. Seeing Momo being so uncomfortable during her training with the snake lady because she was used as a marketing tool, and having her BUY INTO IT (' I GUESS THIS IS PART OF THE JOB AND WHAT IT TAKES, SO ILL DO MY BEST!!') as opposed to fighting against it is AGH!!
As a character designer, I also hate how most of the female characters have much more low-effort designs. Like, so many of the men have creative accommodations and costumes that tell you something about their character, but it feels like so much less thought was put into the women’s. Momo is by far the worst example but even Uraraka has this problem. She’s just kinda a bodysuit with shapes on it? Why isn’t her costume baggy, especially since tight clothing makes nausea worse and an astronaut theme would have given her design some interest? Why are her wrist thingies with the wire in them just shaped like bubbles? Why does she have *half a helmet* in some iterations? Why is she wearing shoes with no ankle mobility? What the hell is her belt??
It just seems like so little thought was put into it compared to all the male characters. Sexualization so clearly comes first.
what's the point of deku having a mask if he's never gonna wear it ? why does he have little bags around his belt, ever seen him using it ? why does bakugo have a brick collar with no neck mobility ? why does kirishima have fucking wheels around his shoulder ? what the hell is mineta's diaper ? why would iida wears an armor when his ability is speed ?
if you're a character designer why do you only notice the problems from female characters ?
@@kinoo4496
Pockets are always useful, I don't think having the ability to carry small things with you needs a deep justification. Deku's mask has little to no functional use, but it's something his nerdy self designed after All Might. It's mentioned several times. It's relevant to his character, not at all a random bit of visual clutter that was tacked on without any thought.
Iida wearing armor makes perfect sense (even ignoring the fact that armor is useful for most combatants.) Iida's quirk is _just_ speed. Apart from the partially metal enginges in his legs, his quirk doesn't come with any built-in physical reinforcement anywhere on his body. He's not naturally any sturdier than anyone else. His attack style consists of using the engines for devastating kicks or to launch himself at things at incredible speeds. Crashing into things at breakneck speeds is very likely to result in, well, a broken neck, and many other serious injuries. Iida's armour lets him use his quirk to its fullest potential by bracing him from the impact _and_ giving him a solid surface so that his kicks land harder.
Apart from that, Bakugou's neck brace might be to protect his spine from the force of his explosions but that may be a stretch. Mineta's diaper is because he's just a comic relief side character and not someone we need to believe is actually capable. His design is supposed to be a joke as much as his character is, and the diaper look plays into him being A) gross and B) the size of a toddler. I got nothing on Kirishima's arm wheels, they're pretty weird. But I don't think they would be as actively detrimental as Uraraka's ridiculous boots (absolutely no one could walk, let alone fight in those) or the extremely bulky armbands when her quirk relies on touching things with her hands.
@@WhitePaintbrush i'm just using the same logic as the original post. juste like the OP, some of my questions aren't legitimate and some of them make sense : like iida. him wearing a helmet and leg protections would be perfectly fine, but a full body armor is just killing his own speed. deku is faster than iida and yet he's not wearing an armor.
it's crazy how hypocritical you're being right now, you're ready to make the biggest stretch ever to explain bakugo's collar, you're minimizing how dumb kirishima's wheels are while emphasizing so much on uraraka's accessories.
if anything these bricks around bakugo's neck is more of a danger than a protection, imagine having a collision against a wall while having this at your neck, it might kill him not fucking protect him. and kirishima's wheels, it's not just unpractical, it looks straight up painful for you armpit area. not dangerous but painful. why are you even even arguing about which one is 1% dumber ? it's totally pointless.
@@kinoo4496 “Some of my questions weren’t serious and some of them were” doesn’t work when there is 0 difference in phrasing between the two, it just kinda makes you look like you were scrambling for examples when there weren’t actually that many and backtracking when someone points it out.
I don’t think Iida’s armor slows him down much. Deku can only keep up with him when he’s not at his top speed. His costume also makes sense from a visual standpoint as it’s supposed to make him resemble a car. Whereas I think some of the choices made with Uraraka’s costume (mainly it being a skintight bodysuit) detract from the visual goal which is for her to look like an astronaut.
I don’t see how smashing into a wall with a neck brace is more likely to kill you than smashing into a wall without one. But regardless, what Bakugou mainly has to worry about is recoil from his own explosions which could cause his head to snap back. This is what a neck brace could be helpful for.
I stated upfront that the neck brace was a stretch, there’s no need to repeat my own words back to me. The only reason I mentioned it at all was because I wanted to acknowledge all of your examples for the sake of a fair argument. Same with Kirishima, like I said, the wheels are dumb. No need to be all dramatic and spin it into me being “crazy hypocritical” when actually I was just engaging candidly with every one of your examples and making a point in your favour.
Why? Well, because you asked. And also mainly because I enjoy hyperanalyzing details and chracter design is an interesting topic that I like talking about. You brought specific characters and examples into the conversation so I wanted to explore those.
@@WhitePaintbrush yeah lmao i added the same amount of bullshit exemples as the original post has because quantity is important. if OP tried to call my bullshit out i would have done the same. i'm not gonna defend sacrifice exemples right ? i completely agree with what you said about them.
it's not a matter of what you think, an armor would slow him down if it was realistic. just like uraraka boots, if i said i don't think she has trouble walking with these, you would just tell me to try walking with something like that on my feet, so i'm telling you what happens when someone wears an armor in real life. i don't know why you all are making this astronaut argument, who said they tried to make her look like one ? to me it obviously looks like a suit a sf character would wear inside a spaceship.
the brick collar could collide with his spine, making him tetraplegic or simply killing him. if i type neck brace on google, and don't think i'll find anything that looks similar to bricks.
(you said "may be" that's why i repeated it and took that part out) i do like a bit of spice when arguing, it was not my intention to be rude or to insult you, i apologize if i offended you. i'll be careful.
even if you're admitting my points, you're putting them on a different level with the way you're phrasing it :
bakugo and kirishima "may be a strech" "pretty weird" => uraraka "ridiculous" "absolutely" "extremely" surely you can notice the difference
even if i admitted uraraka design is dumber, the difference wouldn't be significative enough for you to act so differently if you were being fair.
ye that's perfectly fine i enjoy it too that's not what i'm talking about. if we both agree on calling these few design accessories stupid, then why comparing them when they are more or less equally bad ? if one was good and the other was bad then we could make a conclusion and say female characters costumes don't have as much effort put into them compared to male's. if you want to do a male female comparison i believe you need more exemples.
40:00 "He's just a teenager with hormones, what's your problem ?" Well as a former victim of sexual harassment by male teenagers, I've a problem indeed with how people are so prompt to excuse the abuse perpetrated by boys because they're minors. In reality, a lot of sexual abuse, including rape, toward children isn't not only perpetrated by adults but also by teenagers who use their age gap to coerce younger people into sexual acts just like peodophiles do. Dismissing the gravity of their deviant behavior because of "hormones" or "puberty" is part of the rape culture.
you are absolutely right. and I'm so sorry you had to go through that; I hope you got justice for what happened, and if not, I and many others believe you and understand what you're going through. i hope you are taking good care of yourself!
Your projecting your problems on a cartoon you might need some help
HARD agree. I love this show but the oversexualization of the female cast bothers me greatly. Bubble-Girl was a perfect example, I was instantly made uncomfortable by her costume and the tickling scene was downright obscene. Additionally, poor Momo, smart girl, power that relies on research and intelligence, then made her costume more revealing than most lingerie. In universe it makes no sense that a school would allow a student to dress like that, it's gratuitous.
Glad you agree!! Yeah, Bubble Girl and Momo feel just very gratuitous and ridiculous with their costumes. It’s a real shame considering how strong the rest of the show is. Thank you for watching!
Kirishim wears even less clothes than Momo. lol
@🦪 is 🧂 why not just let the audience enjoy a cute 16 year old girl?
momo was 15 in her first appearance.
@@grinko1222 boys and girls body are diffenrtr
I hate how most girls in *Class A* (except Jirou) (and some in B) are bubbly, cheerful, and optimistic. I just wanna see a high school girl who is competitive, sarcastic, hot-headed, and has big ego or pride. But is well-written, not the Tsundere or Mary Sue-type
Edit: Some replied suggesting that I don't like girls being happy. No, I don't.
I'm just stating that most girls' *base* personalities are almost identical (Yeah I forgot Froppy is pretty chill).
Compared to boys where we have the hot-headed, prideful, cold, brash/loud, calculated, and others.
Like, come-on. Wouldn't a *high school girl who has base personality similar to Bakugo* , is actually interesting to look at?
I don't mind them being bubbly and optimistic but I understand where you are coming from.
I see what you mean. Though, Jirou's pretty sarcastic?
@@ghostjam5984 Yeah pretty much she's the only girl in Class A who's "chill"
I get it, the guys all have different personalities from the smart and serious, the quiet and kinda dark, the stubborn and short tempered, the cheerful, the chill, the shy...etc the girls mostly all are the same. Even when it comes to the adult female heroes and villains they are all mostly the same.
Okay, idk I like how they put it. Jirou’s kinda like what you described. She acts competitive too. Jirou is best girl. MINA GIRLBOSS
The series also has a weird but subtle issue. When a girl does get involved in the main action, she is usually the one to get gravely injured or even killed.
When they're take the spotlight, seem accomplished, or actually accomplish something, they are subsequently undermined or sidelined.
When they start getting slightly emotional or use their sex appeal like expected, they are put down in some way or shamed.
Uraraka was initially supposed to have Mt Lady's power. But Hori realized she'd overshadow the male cast. When Mt. Lady is introduced, were supposed to feel bad for Kamui for being overshadowed. And Deku, who usually can't stop gushing about heroes, starts writing in his notes how impractical her abilities are.
It's just little things. But they're there. And they pile up.
Yes! I’ve heard about this issue getting much worse as the manga goes on from manga-reader friends… disappointing but not totally unsurprising given the treatment of women in the series generally.
@@LadyIneia On the plus side, I'd say Uraraka does start coming into focus again with her own side plot and her own female nemesis (who is probably the most developed female character). They still are both treated as weaker and less important than their male companions. And aren't taken as seriously. They also still waste time constantly reminding us they both love Deku. But at the very least it doesn't look like they are fighting over Deku.
@@LadyIneia Read the manga before claiming something gets worse. You haven’t seen Mirko or Star and Stripe in action yet. Both are badasses who accomplish a lot even though there is some sacrifice. And to the original comment, there are plenty of male casualties as the show progresses and probably more men become useless than the women do once injured.
@@meep6780
Mirko is great. She's a side character but a good one. But that's it. She's badass and sexy. But you'll never see her get the attention and care Hori shows to Endeavor and Hawks. Same applies to all the other female pros. Even with female pros we do know better, like Midnight and Mt Lady, are given the shaft compared to the male ones.
Stars n Stripes is an unintended but still poor example. I think Hori intended for her to balance out the more male dominated hero world. By making her the single most powerful hero... ever. But she's still introduced in a terribly rushed way. Still gets killed. And remained mostly pointless to the plot as a whole other than to nerf the vaguely all powerful main villain.
Now put that with how Nagant, Midnight, and other women in MHA are treated. And you got a bad time. On their own, they're small and don't matter much. But they keep piling up.
THIS COMMENT ESPECIALLY!! Seriously, you nailed it perfectly!! Its like the women are PUNISHED for rising up! I think My Hero Academia is honestly MORE sexist than most shounen because unlike most, it constantly not only teases you with getting better, but it goes out of its way to specifically pull the rug out from under it's women and land them in a pit of spikes.
Hi! I’m one of the ones who got this in their recommended! Please talk about sexism in anime! This is literally the only way I can enjoy anime critique nowadays, anime p much disappoints me so that I can only watch 1-2 a year that doesn’t seem to sexualize women that much. I had a whole 10 page essay about women’s silhouettes being very obv similar if not the exact same & sexual objects first in animation back in the day.
This is one of the best dissections of Hero Aca's sexism. It isn't just saying "bnha bad" but actually looking at the series, praising what's good, and criticizing what isn't. As someone who adores the series despite it's flaws, it's refreshing to see that kind of good faith criticism.
It's not sexist though people are just mad that the female characters are sexualized like it only effects the female ones and the male characters never get the same treatment I have to disagree.
I'm honestly annoyed when people have to label everything as sexist like nothing can be enjoyed because it's somehow putting women down
that's just not the case.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 I feel like you massively missed the point.
@@CakeoftheMews
Missed what point exactly??
I don't think I missed any point Imo.
@@elongatedmanforever1252 "nothing can be enjoyed" -- says who? Barely a minute into the video she gushes about how much she loves the show and calls it one of the greatest shounen of the past few decades. You can like something and criticize it at the same time.
Mina got done so dirty. I love her character design, her personality, and her power is really neat. She has literally one line of "I have to be really careful with my power so I don't hurt others", but that concept could have gone so much further. With good writing, she'd teach Deku control and observing surroundings because she's used her power carefully her entire life. She could actually use her powers more than just skidding around, or tiny little splashes for specific moments. Hell have a moment where she's done holding back and just melts a building or something and does some serious collateral damage. MHA isn't afraid of doing some deeper topics, and certainly isn't afraid of having devastating physical consequences happen to surroundings, and I feel Mina could have been such a good use of that. Deku's power was always about hurting him, and the glossing over of that sheer power hitting someone for the most part was written off unless the plot needed it, and of course only to villians.
She also had another moment in the more recent season (SPOILERS)
where the villian from her backstory appears. I was thinking "Oh neat she actually gets her moment, she'll overcome her fear". Nope. Kirishima saves the day again, making the plot about him instead. She was shown as so completely weak and hopeless and it was like a reverse character arc.
couldn't agree more. i was hoping a lot for mina T-T
I'm working off of old memories of these scenes so correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure Mina DID stand up to that villain in the past while KIRISHIMA is the one that couldn't move. Standing up to that villain is Kirishima's moment a lot more than Mina's, she already showed bravery and over came fear in the flashback while Kirishima is the one that needed to stand up to show that he had grown. I can agree that it could have been done a lot better with how Mina was handled in that scene, she shouldn't have shown any fear.
Bro in one of the recent mangas she literally saved kirishma from the sludge monster☠️
@@marshmellowmoon7990 exactly
@@marshmellowmoon7990This is correct, there’s supposed to be a payback of sorts between them. Mina inspired Kirishima to become a hero in the first place by standing up when he faltered, so years later he does the same. And Mina gets back up and finishes her mission afterward. It’s very good payoff
What makes the part with Minetta & Eri even more disgusting is that she had just been freed from a place where she was trapped by a huge group of men for a long time & no one knew the details of what happened there except that she was tormented & traumatized in nonspecific ways, yet that was the first thing he said when seeing her & no one had a problem with that even though the whole premise of her being at the school was to help her feel safe & normal. He should've been expelled & put on a list without question or hesitation.
Damn 400 likes and no one corrected you that it was a mistranslation
@@olaz5131 ????
@@olaz5131 That still doesn’t make it any better
@@TheMightyGlizzy it does. Cause mineta never said that shit to eri
@@LeeBee287 it's a confirmed
mistranslation, in the manga he says "i look for to seeing you in ten years". Basically telling her she'll be a great hero of she's in U.A already. Some other translations say he making a joke about his height and is saying look me up and I'll be taller in ten years. It 100% wasn't sexual cause mineta wasn't drooling or blushing anytime mineta does his shit asui or someone jump his ass, yet no one is even phased by what he said. Sub and dub just made him look worse.
one piece actually have such a good storyline and development for each character BUT THE SEXUALIZATION :(
I once read a fic where the entire plot was Bakugo and Todoroki going on a quest to make mineta pay for how he treats his female classmates and it ends up with mineta expelled from UA. it was truly an amazing piece of literature
YO that sounds sick asf drop the name 🔥🔥
@@soapp2day sorry mate I xant remember. The writing wasn't great so I never saved it
@@HoodwinkFalls relatable
I think I know the one! I’m pretty sure it’s one of the top MHA fics on AO3, though iirc they also make Mineta homophobic in that fic just to really drive the nail into the coffin.
@@Error-gz3pp YES THATS THE ONE
I loved uraraka when I watched mha back when it was popular in 2020-2021. She was really sweet, and even though so many people hated her because she only wanted to be a hero for the money (she had good intentions for that, plus she apologized if it sounded greedy, she never had any selfish intentions for wanting to be a hero) and because she liked deku. It’s disappointing how she isn’t highlighted in the show anymore like in the first few seasons.
How did people not like her for doing it for the money? That made me like her more. It sort of made her more human in a way.
lots of people didn't like her because she "got in the way" of their fetishized shoto x deku and bakugo x deku ships.
AS A TRANS MLM PERSON, WE ARE NOT YOUR TOYS TO BE PLAYED WITH AND OGLED AT.
It's sad but in the manga she is involved in a major fight.
I only ever disliked like her since I felt like a major personality was just her crush on deku, which was just annoying. And made her highly unlikeable when a major or even part of a character personality around there crush. I didn't dislike her for the fact she was being a hero for money. But... Her crush on deku was just annoying and I felt it was honestly over focused within the anime
It's criminal that she's a rival to Toga and not to Spinner. Hell, I don't think Uraraka has even seen Spinner in the entirety of the show. Spinner's whole deal is that he's a Stain supporter, and Uraraka's motive is literally the one thing Stain hates the most. It practically writes itself: "Person who hates heroes that work for money VS a hero that works for money." It would be perfect for progressing Spinner's character, while also giving Uraraka some more fight scenes of her own.
Instead she fights Toga... because they both crush on Deku? Good job authors. Make their fights about Deku, great idea.
What is more baffling about Momo's ability (reinforcing that it is all "fan service") is that while she is producing sometimes extremely large objects like cannons, her breast NEVER SHRINK. If she is converting the "lipids"/fat cells in her body to make other things.... well.... she should lose "fat" mass in the areas where she uses those transformations.
Take Fat Gum for example. He also manipulates fat though in a different way and when he burns through that in his energy conversion, he becomes skinny and needs to eat it back up. Funny isnt it, how Momo or any part of her does not shrink... ever.... even a little
especially since she dosn't appear to have any other fat resevers. I haven't watched MHA, so i don't know if there is any in-universe explaniation, but if she creates stuff from her body fat, it would also have made sense to make her fat
@@normalaboutpathologic
Well, she basically eats a lot, and theres no time to the lipids accumulate to form fat because she uses them to form stuff, thats why.
Maybe it’s because the quirk relies more on stomach fat than breast fat
@@habama1077oh boy do I have news for you about Dabi-
It's honestly kind of surprising that this isn't the case bc I could see it easily being subject to funny and/or fanservice-y moments (e.g. her clothes not fitting after she uses up too much fat and its too baggy + revealing) and it would've simultaneously catered to guys' different tastes.
... but I'm pretty sure the author just has a thing for enormous BAZONGAS. The only character without triple-D's is jirou 💀horikoshi's fetishes once again holding back the writing
This got recommended to me again. New pfp is very cute!
Thanks so much! Commissioned one of my friends to freshen up the channel’s look :-)
I think it's also important to note that characters that don't receive as much "fan service", like Todoroki and Kaksuki, still have massive fan bases and are idolised/adored by a staggering number of people. The only times I can remember Todoroki being in a potentially revealing outfit are the results of him using his fire quirk and naturally burning a portion of his clothes off; a situation that makes sense as this happens when he's not wearing his specially designed hero costume and the man is producing FIRE. There are no gratuitous close shots, no one comments on his revealed skin, and yet he has a massive following of fans who absolutely love him regardless. Other characters comment on how handsome he is, but these are said with respect and adoration , and serve to show that while others find him attractive, that is not all they see. They are equally as fascinated with his looks as they are with his abilities, because it is his competency that makes him attractive even beyond his looks. When you compare this treatment with that of the girls, the difference is stark. They are constantly being placed in compromising positions, either because their outfits "malfunction" (like in the case of Momo's ridiculous outfit which is seemingly designed to rip every time she uses her quirk) or because a male character decides to aggressively sexualise them either by groping or tricking them into situations engineered to titillate the men in the show and on the other side of the screen.
What I'm trying to say is that male characters like Todoroki occasionally have revealing moments, but these are secondary to their character, happening after they've established their personality, abilities, and competency, and are usually the result of them performing a feat designed to prop them up as impressive and therefore these characters still produce fan bases that love them despite a lack of "sexy" scenes. For women, these moments are a constant stream that supercedes development and personality, and this demonstrates a clear heirachy where a woman's sexuality is placed above her character.
So many people use the fact that there are male characters that exist that are half, if not almost entirelly naked and compare it to how female characters are displayed as a gotcha moment. "Here we showcase how it's all exactly the same, end of" without... analyzing that what they are showing is nowhere near the same. I will always remember the many dudes that give characters like He-man and Kratos from God of War as examples of male sexuality/fanservice for women and it's uh... Not the case at all?
He-man and Kratos were not designed with women in mind, whatsoever. Kratos, for example, gets around and you can activate bonus scenes where you press a bunch of buttons and have sex with a few if not several different women in a matter of seconds, so in-universe he is sexually desirable. But his design was not made to titillate women. It was made as a male-power fantasy. The "ideal" male body.
What men are supposed to want to have, or at least fantasize about becoming/being. Sure, there will be women that are attracted to those designs and will like the naked aspect but they are an exception to the rule and his design was not made with them in mind.
Even when shows try the "male fanservice for women" in the same vein as female fanservice, it is never done quite like it. So much is lacking that comparing the two is almost always impossible.
So whenever I see people say that Bakugou and Kirishima for example, are equal part sexualized by the show because they have muscles and have been shirtless before, it feels... Dumb as hell? The framing just isn't the same.
Left no crumb, ate. I completely agree, explained extremely well and aptly
This is such an excellent comment and a great argument
One point that could be brought up is Kirishima’s costume. It’s pretty much topless for little to no reason, somewhat similarly to Momo’s. The difference here is that there aren’t unnecessary moments of gawking at Kirishima’s body. Another point to be addressed was the fact that when the students put in instructions and requests for their costumes, the costume designers would often take liberties such as adding heels to Uraraka’s costume. (They completely changed Mineta’s costume from his original design, which I find hilarious.) Kirishima and Momo may or may not have wanted their costumes to be designed this way, with the unnecessary revealing themes. Their characters are not (canonically speaking) to blame for their outfits, UNLIKE MIDNIGHT. Midnight literally had her outfit custom designed and could’ve had it easily changed at any time, but didn’t, showing that she literally WANTED to be objectified and sexualized.
I am really enjoying this comment section! All of these points are very well articulated and exemplary!!
I really like the addition of commenting that when guys say that men in video games are sexualized as well that it’s no level close to the sexualization of women. People’s brothers and fathers walk around the house shirtless all the time. Being shirtless does not equate to fan service! 😅
They really think we’re thirsting over the same muscly, jacked up, roided up protagonists (and no shame to those who do), but just like the other commenter said that wasn’t made for women. A lot of women have to go to a completely different genre (yaoi) where we’re not even the object of desire!!!
If I hear one more man talk about Free!, one more time… they don’t seem to understand that they have to keep referring to the same anime that was released in 2013, but a show can be released tomorrow with male fan service literally tomorrow.
Something that really bugs me about momo's design in particular is that her particular design exposes multiple extremely important, squishy organs. hero work is by default a dangerous task, and we see characters get into serious trouble multiple times.
so.... why... in the world... would you want a costume that exposes your vital organs? we know theres hero killers. shes fucked the minute a villain doesnt play nice.
Then don't watch , no one is forcing to you ☺️
@@FireWaifu you can like something while being critical of it in some aspects, just because there's one thing in a show you don't like, doesn't mean you should just stop enjoying it, use your brain
@@icandoanythiing you should use your brain , if something bothering you that much then you should not watch that thing 🤷
@@FireWaifu And you can use your brain to realize it does not matter how other people consume media and comment on it. You can criticize a show and still enjoy it. This is a not black and white issue
@@FireWaifuThey're allowed to Criticize a show for its flaws without being told "If you disliked anything at all that's your problem" and to stop watching. That's really silly.
The most annoying thing is that Mirio has this whole smart costume made from his own hair so he doesn't end up naked but both Toga AND Momo both end up naked in basically every fight
Toga doesn't have the resources and a DNA costume just shouldn't work for momo because of how her quirk works
@@JonasRosado But a more practical outfit that exposes her back and stomach would work better than an outfit that, besides a ridiculous opening on the front, actually makes her far more covered than she should be. I think when people bring up Mirio, is not to say that all other characters should have the same type of engineering he had done for his outfit, but that more thought should've been put into their costumes. Toga you can get away with but characters like Momo and Hagakure (and in my opinion also Midnight) are absolute failures. Which is worse given that they're from the main class of the show (sidelining aside).
@@RobotScarlet I'd be lying if I said that momo's costume is flawed to begin with but it just makes sense for her breasts to be exposed at least a bit because really they're just one big source of fat that she can use and how is midnight costume a failure? Only problem with it is that it covers her skin. Also, yes hagakure should have an outfit like mirio but it's possible that because it's her 1st year and first outfit that she either can't get one made, she didn't think of that and it's probably next to impossible to get a blood sample from one of her veins for the dna
@@JonasRosado Except when zippers are a thing. She doesn't need an open boob window, she can have a velcro or zipper opening in the front to use whenever she needs. And in case of emergency, well, we literally see her first extreme use of her power is her ripping the back of her suit completely despite her front being exposed, so it wouldn't be much if an issue, especially since she doesn't seem to mind being exposed if it's for something serious. The outfit just doesn't make sense except there needed to be some titties out.
Midnight's outfit is a failure to me. I know many people don't agree but based on her powers, based on her personality and the whole dominatrix thing she has going on it's terrible and looks ugly. A dominatrix goes all out with her look and she's not only tame, the wildest thing she's got going for her is her titties being out. She's meant to be attractive and the show points it out constantly but she looks like a trainwreck.
And Hagaruke, that's an explanation of the character but is a failing of the author because really, all he wanted was to make jokes about her being naked all the time. How can you conceive of an invisibility power and not do an outfit that goes invisible WITH them? All she has are literal gloves and shoes. They (sort of) thought out an outfit for Uraraka but couldn't do the same to Hagakure? There's many ways to get DNA that doesn't require syringes or veins. I just think he didn't think these character through because they weren't really meant to be as thought out besides the basics (and Hagakure's case... nothing).
Alright, I'm not defending this shit, and yes, the Mirio=Momo argument, I understand and fully agree with. But how the hell would it work for Toga. Mirio phases his body through stuff, Momo creates things and it pops out of her skin. Considering these are all just molecular of her own lipids, I feel it makes sense for her suit to allow the objects to phase through. But Toga is a bit of a different case. I mean, her entire body morphs using someone else's DNA. Her entire quirk is based off of adding foreign DNA to her system. Even if a suit could somehow be feasible for Toga that accounts for this impossibly random variable, I don't think it would fall in the same ballpark as Mirio or the theoretical Momo suit, logistically or technologically.... I'm now noticing this reply is long enough to be its own comment. So that's what I'll do.
I know I'm like three years late, but thank you so much for voicing the opinions I've had, but never were quite able to say ✨
The fact that Mineta is a self-insert really wraps everything all up together.
Its more concerning really.
It’s not a self insert it’s a dramatic exaggeration of his teen years
@@Zank069 that doesnt make it any better. if its just an exaggeration, why does mineta still not have any repercussions for his actions? it makes it seem like this type of behavior is acceptable when its literally not.
@@Zank069 Aka a self insert. Sorta like how Snape from Harry potter was made to represent JK Rowling's science teacher and Hermione being the self insert.
@@hornetfromhallownest
Same thing about Bakugou: irl people would snap back at him and no one would want to have anything to do with this prick but it seems that MHA's characters are just like the Carebears... 🤦♀️
Another thing that bugged me a lot when I watched BNHA: All the women who are shown multiple times are the _same._ They're all bubbly and sweet, super kind and very social with occasional differences like how Jirou is more introverted or Momo more poised. There isn't a single major female character - at least in UA - that is bitchy and violent, or quiet and anxious, or stoic and alone. Even if they were just stereotypes I'd love to see it more than just all the same shade of "kind."
Not only that but they're all physically the same. Sure the height is somewhat varied, but body shape and physique is all the same. There isn't any female student who is muscular like her male counterparts, or thick, or lanky. Just all the default varieties of the hourglass shape.
Edit: since this is necessary I'm just gonna put this here ig
1. First of all I am a woman in her late teen years (I'm counting 13-19 as teen years for clarity)
2. I stated several times I was talking about major characters, so 1A students, assume when I say girls I mean that group unless specified differently
3. This is my opinion and observations
4. I acknowledge that I'm asking for traditionally unlikable characteristics, but I want variety because all the girls are boring and bland and I hate them
5. I will no longer be answering replies as I've made my observations in this main comment and the following comments, unless someone points out something I didn't say already
6. Not only are the girls all similar and boring, but they are also only objects of fan service, this show could've just taken place in an all-boys school without any difference
Miruko: Am I a joke to you?
@@justyouraveragejoe9454 One.
so i guess Miruko, Mitsuki Bakugo, Thirteen (I mean shes kinda sweet and stuff but shes not like overly sweet), and a couple of class-b's students, don't exist?
@@Disbelief_ Omg three women who are remarkable in any way. How amazing. Consider how much variety there is the male cast and then think about the three women you could name and the handful of 1B girls you couldn't. And I repeatedly clarified that I was talking about major characters or UA students-
@@harmonium5495 you do realize that I'm not gonna remember all of there names from class 1-B, there's to many also Class 1-B is literally UA students
They managed to make Mirio a costume using his dna so that his clothes can phase through things with him, so couldn’t they do something similar for Momo?
edit: how did I manage to cause an argument and get 2k likes? makes no sense. anyways, please stop arguing
I don't think it could work this way. I think the she can only create stuff if there is fat directly underneath it
i think it might work because the quirk is a part of the person so if you use said persons dna to make the costume it should work with their quirk
@@shotaaizawa341 I don't think it would work like that.
@@nintendogamer1926 maybe it would, maybe it wouldn’t, we may never know
this really irks me concerning the invisible girl too, how is it that their society is so advanced that they can make suits with someones dna so that it adapts to their quirk but they couldnt make a suit for her so she could turn invisible with it on? it’s ridiculous and so gross that it is stated upfront she is naked on the job and nobody batted an eye, it feels like some perverse fantasy. its so disappointing and another example of one of these high school aged girls with so much potential regarding their quirks/character arcs being reduced to vessels for unrelenting fanservice 😕
The problem with "pervert" characters like Mineta is that if their behavior is shown as ridiculous, portraying sexual misconduct as a running gag ultimatly passes it as harmless. And Mineta isn't the butt of the joke for being an harrasser but for being unlucky in his attempts. Save for that, he never faces consequences for his actions, he isn't kicked out of school or ostracized by the class, the teachers never punish him or make him attend disciplinary hearing.
You just said it. It's a literal gag in the series that is not supposed to be taken serious
There is one Mineta joke that made me genuinely laugh: during the school festival, he realizes he can't play the guitar and he blames it on his character design being too short. It's funny because it's a 4th wall break.
.....and then it's ruined immediately by Ashido comforting him by saying she'll give him a harem. What the hell was up with that
Well, i think Ashido means she will let everyone ( girls maybe) to dance around him, make him the center of attention, showed in that music show video( i think, i don't remember). Also sorry for bad english.
The only thing with Mineta that makes me laugh is that Aizawa gets on his knees just to talk with him eye-to-eye
I just like when other characters hurt him, like when he grabbed Tsu’s boob and she drowned him
what's up with that is that she's extremely based
@@chefgreasypaw7816 oof, but real
What I personally find worse than Mineta is that there's not even consequences for these actions (except played for laughs). If they'd show that he faces some serious consequences for this or it's made a SERIOUS/lesson part of the story then Mineta being absolutely horrible would probably be...excuseable...once or twice. But nope, Aizawa or any other adults apparently doesn't care that a character makes female students uncomfortable/feel unsafe.
Not gonna lie I get a chuckle out of people who take Mineta's antics seriously. Obviously it was done for comedic effect, and every time Mineta goes on and does this a handful of times he is dealt accordingly and always backfires. If the girls, let alone his classmates truly felt that he was such a threat, they would've reported him. I'm pretty confident to say that while they know he's a perv, they do know he's not a bad person that does it with the intent on hurting them. Annoying and bothersome, absolutely. Malicious? That's where I draw the line. While Mineta is a perv, what people refuse to admit or give him credit is that he has cut down on his perverted antics, and the will knit pick the guy even if he says the smallest thing. Even though we've seen other anime characters do it such as Roshi, Jiraiya, Melodias, etc to name a few. At least Mineta has the excuse that he's a teenager. But I digress, maybe if he had a cooler design or a cooler quirk he wouldn't be as hated. While he is a pervert and I will not take anything away from your reasons for disliking him as you are in your right, there have been countless perverts in anime, some just as bad and even worse than Mineta.
I get what you mean but it's not like this is new. Not to mention that all of the girls would destroy mineta in a 1v1, so I don't think they feel unsafe. If Mineta was as overwheleming and skillful as Bakugou, sure, but he's a midget who has a great quirk wasted on him due to his lack of skill. 'sides, MHA isn't about that, its about Deku becoming the best hero, everyone he's met, and everything he learns up until he becomes the best. Putting any greater relevance on someone who has no relevance in Deku's journey isn't good for the story. The only reason a lot of characters even have development is because most if not all manga are third-person omniscient. Finally, the viewers aren't stupid. 14-18 year old guys don't need Horikoshi to have an episode or two on mineta for them to know that sexual assault is bad. If someone needs that lesson taught to them, they aren't the right demographic for shonen.
SPOILERS DOWN BELOW FOR MAIRIMASHITA IRUMA KUN
Look at mairimashita Iruma Kun
The character Caim, he isn't as close as a terrible character towards mineta.
His punishment for making girls uncomfortable is to literally put him in the class for troubled students that are seen by the whole school as a joke.
And whenever he makes a sexual joke the teachers/students look at him and sometimes scold him.
We also find out WHY he is a pervert.
His family were really strong demons who thought they could defeat the demon king but of course, lost. They were given a second chance and now they're on the demon kings side.
His mother was explaining to him on how you have to respect him and some other things (he was a little kid when she was saying this)
And he misunderstood it.
He still respects the girls tho as he doesn't want them hurt and compliments them sometimes.
Not to mention his bloodline ability is WAY SUPERIOR than minetas quirk......
Mineta-sticky balls on his head
Caim- can control anyone's familiar/ creature to follow his command/ talk to them and understand them
i get what you're saying but you do realise that by that logic characters like Bakugo would be gone too. Like harming others, bullying, and inciting suicide are way worse than what Mineta has done
@@Sprinklefanfan they didnt really say to make bakugo gone, but honestly, I'd fucking want that- as someone with anger issues I do not like Bakugo one bit
I love MHA, but I gotta admit, you hit the nail dead on the head. The fact that bakugo can wear gloves and mirio can wear a full bodysuit, but toru has to be buck naked says it all.
Dude her quirk is literally being invisible wearing anything else will expose her stealth quirk☠️☠️☠️
Mirio phases through things, even normal clothes. To prevent him from being naked all the time, his costume is actually made of his own hair fibers so it phases with him. By this logic, Toru’s hair can be fashioned into a costume, she can be clothed, and still maintain her stealth. In fact it would actually improve her stealth since her current outfit (gloves and boots) are visible. Think next time you try to rationalize an underage character being naked.
@meowtastic___meowtastic___6115 she wears gloves and boots so that her classmates and (more importantly) the readers/audience can see her at all, everytime she actually goes into combat she takes them off/uses them as a trap for opponents, even if someone could somehow make clothes for her (that would be invisible) she would look and function identically, plus how is she even meant to find it anytime she takes it off 💀
You have excellent points! My response is that she could where a hybrid suit, one where she has clothes that are invisible, but gloves and boots that can be seen. However, it has been stated that toru can see herself, so one could infer that she could clothing made out of her hair.
@@asfplanx5004u just want naked under 18 yr olds
I completely agree, and it has grieved me bc the show itself is good, but the constant and consistent oversmexulaization... is hard to watch bc it isn't necessary or ever relevant. Also watched to the end. Great vid.
thank you so much for addressing the issue of how Bones slimmed all the girls down too!! Horikoshi is actually INCREDIBLY good at drawing bodies in ways that make them feel like they have very real-world weight and girth to them. ive genuinely never seen a mangaka who draws female bodies with such a well done balance of both muscle and fat for athleticism before. Momo has an especially egregious case to me- in the manga she full on has rolls sometimes. shes actually pretty chunky, which makes sense for her because of how her quirk affects her body- she needs to maintain that good balance of both useable fat and muscle through the food she eats to make stuff. but in the anime she looks like she could share clothing sizes with Jirou if it werent for how much more boob she has. its pointless and stupid, and immediately rubbed me the wrong way
Yeah! I wanted to mention that bc I think it’s one of the MHA’s big strengths and really unique qualities that the characters, esp the girls, are drawn with realistic and varied bodies. Bones really did not do the manga art justice in that regard.
Its sad that mha isn't more girl centered bc he makes the BEST female character designs
Bones wanna turn the girls to skin and bones
@@kimmyseon46 guess why their name is "bones"
For Momo add a bra and a zipper so that when she zips that she doesn't show her titties to some kids if she needs to save them
This is why I LOVE Katara in Avatar The Last Airbender. A lot of the time in colder climates she's shown in clunky snow clothes, and the moments when she is shown as more of an attractive character is when Aang is realizing he likes her. And it's still practical outfits. It was like she was wearing a sports bra. AND she doesn't get sidelined. She has amazing development throughout the show. (As a plus, when Sokka is being sexist in the very first episode, it's addressed as wrong. And he improves.)
Edit: I also forgot about our girl Toph. She's amazing too!
This is also why I love women from attack on Titan. I bet you have heard many people say the same and it might be annoying to hear. But seriously, tell me a woman that’s so badly written because they’re not oversexualized? It proves a lot of points that a female character in anime doesn’t need to be sexualized, have huge boobs, big ass, big thighs, revealing clothes to be a good female character
@@yourbiologicalmom7608 Exactly! I like you :)
YES OMG!!
I absolutely LOVE Katara! She is such a badass and the writers did an amazing job with her! They never ONCE Sexualized her in anyway, and the moments when Aang was like going lovey dovey were done well! For example, She was in her normal outfit and she put on the necklace Aang made for her! That part was really well done!
And yes the beginning! I love how they addressed that the way Sokka was acting was kinda btchy, but he improved!
AVATAR STAYS ON TOPPPP ❤️❤️❤️
@@himaxx_x EXACTLYYYY
Mikasa @@yourbiologicalmom7608
Something a lot of people don't really bring up about Minetta is that in that training fight with Mina, she tries to report him after the fact and she is laughed at. It not only makes a mockery of assault, but mocks a character who tries to take action, when speaking up is hard. She was told she should be grateful and go with it, and the narrative never addressed it again.
EDIT: I would like to make a slight alteration to what I stated. She was not directly laughed at by the classmates. However, it was brushed aside as if it was no big deal.
Holy shit
she wasnt laughed at, she said Minetta deserves to be locked up and Mineta yelled and said "But i saved you" and the next we see of them is Mina subjecting him to Clockwork Orange punishment, after which his pervertedness ended. Not even exaggerating, that was his last act as a pervy characters he's just been that small guy with a funny design and power for about 4 and a half years now thats the majority of the story
@@essdeebass2411 If you watch it again, she definitely was laughed at. It was treated as a joke.
if you read the manga she isnt laughed at. look at the source material not the adaptation that constantly changes shit @@midnightbird3580
Wait, what?!
I'd now be curious if you ever did a series on the two best shonen (FMA and Dungeon Meshi) that were both created by women, because they show how to do it right, and I love it.
As a hetero male, the tickle scene with bubble girl actually felt very uncomfortable and unnecessary. It was too wierd.
Yep. It's a pity that feminist media analysis settled on "the male gaze" as a term for this phenomenon.
Men are frequently uncomfortable with this sort of material just showing up out of nowhere for no good reason, but the male gender role means we're supposed to shut up about it and be grateful for any sexual shit thrown in our direction. And because we're punished socially if we do complain about it, we don't speak up. It isn't that we don't speak up because we actually enjoy this garbage. It's because we're put in danger when we do speak up, and we learn that we are in danger from a very young age.
But feminist analysis has long lagged behind on understanding the pressures that those subject to the male gender role suffer under, and continue to make the mistake of assuming we are universally benefited just because women are harmed. It isn't universal, but it's way too common.
@@YouthRightsRadical real shit, it really needs to change for the sake of men and women cause I know a great portion of men really don't fuck with shit like this and live within a culture who abuses you if you don't agree. Hopefully we'll get there better at some point.
Stay strong Dudes and Stay strong Dudettes c:
@@YouthRightsRadicalwell, it's called the male gaze because men are expected to be purely sexual "creatures". You and others like you may not be comfortable with such overt fetish fuel and fanservice, but the expectation is that you, as a man, will. Sexism impacts everyone, and unfortunately men were the ones to impose those standards onto themselves way back when and now; women of those times took a less active role in that sexism, teaching misogyny/brutal gendered expectations to their children.
The video uploader clearly didn't say all men were this way, with her repeated stating of "assumed straight male audience". Aside from queer men, there's obviously a huge group of straight men that are disturbed by the sexualization of characters and irritated by the expectation that they'll enjoy it.
While I agree with you that men shouldn't be framed as hypersexual ""creatures"" and such, I disagree that feminist media or perspectives are the problem. I don't know what your relation to feminism is, but all I can say as someone who's learned a whole lot is that feminism is not what you think it is by the name. Yes, at first it was intended to show women were as competent as men, but over time that goal changed to "showing every gender as equals". Feminism isn't putting women above men (despite many who say so and the few women that do this in the name of unironic girlboss feminism), or saying men have to be "feminine", or anything else of the sort. At it's most basic level, it's the refusal of tired old gender stereotypes that hurt women and men, such as women being weak or men being strong. Men have emotions too, and should be allowed to express them without shame or mockery. Women can dress however they want without being shamed for it. Men can have close and intimate relationships with their fathers and male friends without it being seen as inherently gay. So on, so forth.
Sorry for the ramble, but I hope I can show a new perspective on feminism. It's so often bastardized and lied about that I understand your initial thoughts, but please know it's not how you think it is at all. On a more serious note, there are people who care for you and won't let some stupid gender get in the way of you being human. But again, your issue with the patriarchy's framing of men is completely understandable and justified.
Even if it's fiction, even if you gave the benefit of the doubt that people weren't that gullible, even if it's framed as harmless jokes, sexism in media affects us all.
@@Vesperad0 I didn't say feminism is responsible for this. This sort of messaging predates organized feminism by a considerable margin. What I said was that feminist analysis lags behind in terms of recognizing the harms that the male gender role inflicts on men relative to its understanding of the harms the female gender role inflicts on women.
I will say you're making a hell of an assumption when you claim that "men" were the ones who made up gender roles whole cloth at some past point. Nothing about what we know of sociology says that "men" were ever some unified, omnipotent cabal who were actively and consciously deciding how to structure society in a way to actively exclude women. And decided that all men should forever be barred from major parts of the human experience.
Fortunately, academic feminist literature may have a ways to go in terms of coming to grips with the issues those of us subjected to the male gender role struggle with, but they are far more nuanced than this bizarre conspiracy theory that anti-feminists propagate that "patriarchy" refers to some ancient conspiracy of all men against all women. Much of it is still bad at understanding that "patriarchy" hurts men without the qualification that it's not just "backfiring" from an intent to hurt women, but because it is harmful to men in and of itself. But very little will talk about what "men" imposed back in ye olden days as if there was ever a time when "men" were able to, or interested in, conspiring against themselves and against their own loved ones.
Everyone needs to remember that "the patriarchy" is not the same thing as "men".
Excessive tickling is also a literal form of torture because it causes your muscles to continuously spasm and becomes incredibly painful after a bit. So that might've also contributed to your discomfort.
“Momo’s skin needs to be exposed for her quirk to work” **proceeds to show a shot of her making something from her back, a non-exposed part of her body**
Edit: I just thought it was a funny montage sequence. Now for the people bringing up the good point that is that after that scene Momo’s costume was ripped, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal; Deku rips his costume 24/7. It’s just bad design
ye but she ripped her clothes, you dont want that every time you use your quirk
Resulting in her shirt literally exploding off her.
@@willfanofmanyii3751 wow, that's some cloth. Never had the exploding kind, myself. 😑
Well Superhero suits aren't cheap after all so you don't want to have to buy replacements all the time... Then again when you can make whatever the hell you want out of practically nothing, cost shouldn't be an issue
If anything it highlights how impractical the suit is, she'd rather rip off her back costume than use her tit window. Its such a weird fit.
mineta being portrayed as a hero while being able to get away with sexually harassing and groping girls says a lot on its own.
While yes he is extremely perverted and I do agree with you. He is pretty well written and actually pretty competent with a intelligence of 5/5 (I think) only to be beaten by Momo with a 6/5. (Also in my opinion I think his hype moments were pretty good.) Overall I agree with you, he is extremely perverted and a coward, but I do want to say Mineta is a pretty well written character.
On Facebook so much creepy roae anime hentai Facebook groups and I rmeber some guy said if minetta was a bad guy all the girls would be r4ped and pregnant by now like wtfff
@@meapyboy12345 that’s not really the point of what they said though.
You can have a well written character but it’s still harmful if you portray sexual assault or constant objectification of women as a good thing. I would argue a good characterisation would actually critique that part of the character.
@@HiBuddyyyyyy okay
@@HiBuddyyyyyy Nobody displayed it as a good thing. As a matter of fact quite the opposite. People in universe fucking hate Mineta for good reason and he was literally tortured into giving up his perverted ways. So no, it's never portrayed as a good thing.
A year late but:
The most frustrating thing about Momo's design: The excuse for it is kinda bullshit
Bakugou creates explosions from his sweat, which is secreted through his skin, and yet gloves don't hamper his abilities at all? Tokoyami has a spirit who, presumably, cannot go through solid space. (We know Dark Shadow is a solid object because we've seen him interact with the physical world countless times) The spirit comes from his body, and yet this spirit has no problem getting through his clothing?
The only time this whole "they need to show skin for their quirk" has ever been applied is for female characters and Kirishima. It's not even a solid excuse if the logic of it is being pushed aside for her male counterparts
Technically 2 years late since this video is from 2021.
Also I’m assuming Tokoyami and Bakugo have what Mirio had where they have specially made clothes and that’s why.
@@grantslater861 kirishima tho
The frustrating thing is that it's totally fine and easy to have female characters with skimpy outfits, no justification needed. Just make them dress themselves like that on purpose, just say it's their style. There doesn't need to be some ridiculous lore explanation.
@@LimeyLassen But they do though???
2:06 THE TRANS WOMAN CHARACTER IS NOT A GOOD CHARACTER THAT IS A TRABSMISOGYNISTIC CARICATURE 😭😭 Do not praise it
aint no way the scene with momo being half naked is the most replayed part of this video 💀
the irony is immaculate and i cannot stop laughing
@@BobbinRobbin777 on god bro 💀
@@AnkyloDyno yeah,
though my only real reason for laughing mainly comes from the hindsighted dissapointment with the clueless horny fans who had (most likely) paused there in order to... "contemplate their feelings" despite the subject of the video, not with the Momo clip itself.
I replayed twice cause I went "there's no way they did this in the show, it must be an edit"
@@BobbinRobbin777 why do you assume we're clueless or horny... or even a fan?
why can't you accept that men love to look at chicks?
why foist your pov on ppl?
Mineta is just sexual harassment personified. The sad part is that there are probably tons of creepy guys who treat him like a self-insert.
Um, NO lol? If you think the "annoying comedic midget pervert" stereotype is the favorite of creeps known for larger than average egos, idk what world you live in
Horikoshi himself said mineta was a self insert
@@whade62000have you HEARD the boys on this, they're extremely vocal (or used to be) about loving their "literally them" charavter
Self insert? Meaning?
No fking one will be proud of being like mineta LMAO
What also bugs me is that people justify mineta by saying "it's a joke" or worse, "he's designed to be disliked, so obviously his horrible actions are meant to be a bad trait". Then why does he never have any repercussions? aside from getting smacked what are the consequences? why are the teachers not punishing him for the way he acts? Why are none of the girls coming forward to Aizawa like "hey he is blatantly sexualising us and we feel uncomfortable" ?
Johnny Bravo at least routinely got his ass whooped or his ego hit when he slipped into his misogynist character traits. Not to mention he had actual moments of clarity where he either realized his mistake or actively behaved in an upstanding manner to a woman. Mineta is just a creepy diaper fetish insert freak.
its anime stuff like this is normal if u have seen ANY anime like why do the tsunderes never get in trouble when they knock dudes out its just a quirk of animation
@@admiralkaedejust cuz it’s normal doesn’t mean it’s ok or acceptable
@@blitzie66 and why isnt it its fake characters
@@admiralkaede i can tell you have no critical thinking skills based off just that reply so will end my convo with you here good luck hope you learn some things some day about media literacy and impact :)
I agree honestly it gets under my nerve every time they try to do this and they make The show so weird i’m currently on season two episode 31 and damn it’s weird . It’s mostly thirst traps which even though it has great characters like all might , Totariki etc.. It’s so nerve-racking when I watch it and I see stuff like this because it’s not why I came to watch this anime. In my opinion, this is what holds the anime back and in my view, just a less great version of one punch, man or demon slayer
I’ll be honest. I’m a cishet man. I’ve never been that into feminist theory. But watching this show at some points made me so damn uncomfortable that I just had to know that I wasn’t going crazy. Mha is really the first anime I’ve seriously watched, and the fact that so much of the community just accepts this stuff as par for the course is making me scared to watch more anime.
Thanks for making this video, it just feels like all my problems with the show summed up in a concise format.
I'm really glad you enjoyed the video, especially watching it as someone not as invested in feminist analysis! MHA has a fun story, but the sexist element really does let it down a lot--and unfortunately a bunch of shows get let down by that. If you want a great action/adventure show with almost no fanservice, I'd highly recommend Fullmetal Alchemist. The original manga author was a woman, and her female characters are gorgeous and powerful without feeling sexualized and objectified. Thank you again for watching and commenting!!
I also recomend AOT and promised neverland !
I recommend Hellsing Ultimate, the female characters are really well-written and play an integral role in the story.
Gintama, Claymore, Black Clover.
@@frannava7175 All the more reason to NOT be sexist. You really want the next generation of men to normalize seeing women as objects?
thank you so much for bringing up that a character having a large chest isn’t inherently a character being sexualized! a lot of the discussion around this implied that big boobs are inherently sexual and not just someone’s body.
It is kind of hard to remember that when almost every single anime says differently. And the framing of said animes can confuse people. I myself had forgotten this fact (when I watch anime) even tho I am a female.
Aka- framing can be pretty important (bad)
But when a character has a large chest pervert characters always comment on it and make it a big deal. They are literally drooling at large chests..
@@dy_nto7 that is the bad sexualization, unless it's a very specific anime. But a character just having big boobs is not the bad stuff, camera angles and other characters looking is.
Basically I think you meant to agree with them but didn't read it right, wich is perfectly fine haha!
@@alicedodobirb2808 I mean yes I agree but I would have a problem with it if EVERY female character have big chest because it wouldn't make any sense so I would consider it a fanservice. Like One Piece women who only have one body type you know? Every female body is different after all.
@@dy_nto7 ye, I can see that, it took a while for me to start watching it because of that reason lol.
Boobs make me uncomfortable :')
I am watching it, but I look away from most of the weird fanservice lol.
(Never got a notif for your reply, sorry for the long time lol)
As a girl I got interested in this show BECAUSE of the female character but since they didn’t do anything with the female characters except to sexually harass them, I lost interest.
Same. At least I think that's the reason,, one of the main ones
i only watched up to season 2 , dropped it because of that annoying perv guy with balls for hair
action was great , just annoying ass characters
ur cappin. u never watched mha, the female charachters are always getting their own big scenes all the time.
Watch shoujo anime. Even then it's questionable if you can get good female characters.
I mean…plenty of people still enjoy mha…..so dats cool I guess
Amazing video, thank you for putting all of this together and please keep pointing out these kinds of trends in anime
my question is why, when all the male classmates are absolutely ripped, the girls, who are supposed to be EQUALLY AS STRONG, dont have even a sliver if muscle definition
I KNOW its so dumb
Yeah, high school boys are usually not as ripped as the UA boys.
@@Palepetal Some are if they are active. I went to school with a lot of boys who played football and basketball. I was curious as to how they got that way when all I saw them eat were potato chips lol. The coaches would fill them up at the cafeteria and train them.
@@Palepetal some boy characters could have less muscle mass too while some girls could have more, there were some fit individuals in my class personally
because that take is false. read the manga. read the manga.
21:16 as a person who has a larger chest, I fully agree to this point. I personally swim and I always have to find suits who support me enough and where nothing "falls out" (yes, that happened. And it's horrible.)
I could never imagine having an outfit like Momo has in the show, because I can confirm that it is just so uncomfortable and impractical. I wear sports bras all the time, just because they offer me more comfort and stability than normal ones, because I really need it.
Momo is such a sweet character, she has been done dirty by the design.
It’s a anime a drawing ✍️ 🗿🗿
@@mr.theory5733 Yup. It's a very popular piece of media and fiction who reflets the mind set of its creators and the society where they live.
No matter if you want it or not, but fiction is an incredibly powerful tool on how you will behave on the society. Every fiction you watch make woman only an object of desire and sexualised them even if they are minors? Well that must be how woman should be since it's normal.
I know it's sound stupid saying out loud, but that's really how it works. Society influences fiction and fiction influences society. That's why we talk a lot about representation, how women are in fiction, the problematic behavior...
If a drawing is just a drawing and it's stupid to complain about it, then ped0p0rn0graphic image wouldn't be a juridic problem.
@@lou9635 everyone knows what is right and wrong Just because they watch something a drawing does not mean that it will reflect on there every day life ( if you watch a form of art fiction and emulate it then you are 1. Too young to know better 2. There’s something wrong with you )
So in summery
( this is video point out how the creator feels about the Piece of fiction that is an opinion and that opinion is valid but at the end of the day this is all not real a drawing fake and not everyone one will see it so in turn it will not do much )
@@mr.theory5733 Because it's not like Japan & weeb culture have a constant problem of real underage girls being sexualized, molested, insulted, gaslighted, & generally treated like shit, right? It's not like girls get molested in Japanese trams/trains so often that there are separate trams just for women & the media's response to it is to make porn out of it, right?
@@mr.theory5733 a piece of fiction can influence people a lot. It doesn't mean there's something wrong with them
Can we take a second to appreciate how balanced and respectful this criticism is? It's not just saying "Look! Bad! Bnha sucks!" but actually acknowledges both the bad and the good parts of the show, and doesn't instantly hate on the show entirely. I genuinely appreciate that. Keep up the good work! :)
Disagree. She never talks about MHA itself, just what she doesn’t like. Her criticism is passable at best, and hypocritical at worst, and she only ever talks good about one thing.
@@JayMehKay She's not supposed to talk about the whole thing. It's a focused criticism regarding the stuff in the video, not a recap of the show. The fact that she went out of her way to compliment the show was nice.
@@vintagecrayon4504 my comment is in opposition to your comment, not the video
@@JayMehKay My comment is about the video.
@@vintagecrayon4504 And yet you said she acknoledged the good parts of the show when she barely talked about it. Kinda contradictory
"Anime is on par, if not superior, to any other form of cinema!"
(gets criticized like any other form of cinema)
"No, not like that!"
For me, the worst part of Mineta's character is that Hirokoshi has said that Mineta was created to be a self insert character. Absolutely *disgusting*
woahhhh there what the fuck i don’t watch mha so this is all news to me. seriously… what the fuck
@@mikudayo_biggest_fan3939 yeah... I'm sorry that this is how you had to find out, but yeah...
I've never understood the hate for Mineta, as far as perv characters go there's worse (master roshi) and he gets shit on in universe regularly
@@thevoid5732 Just because "there are worse" doesn't mean Mineta isn't a terrible and disgusting character, and what consequences does he ever face that aren't just a metaphorical slap on the wrist?
@@amyleah08 the reason I bring up there being worse examples is that no one reacts to those the same way they do w mineta from what I've seen. Meliodas is leaps and bounds worse and so is roshi. And the consequences isn't what I'm referring to when I say he gets shit on but that's fair
First episode: Women sometimes have to use their bodies to get popular because reality is harsh.
The rest of the show: It's cool when adults groom kids to use their bodies for attention as long as as those kids are female.
First episode: Anyone can be a hero if they try hard enough even if they're abilities suck.
The rest of the show: Unless they're female. Then their abilities don't matter.
Todoroki’s mom
Did you also forget about the time control child?
And the giant woman
Plus the washing machine hero is also female… oh shit
@@netflix223 Todoroki's mom is mainly hospital bound traumatized and is only active as a fighter in the final act, and her whole character and backstory is written based on how the men (her eldest and youngest son and her husband) reacted to her trauma rather than her perspective on her trauma, and the giant woman is more fetish gear for giantess fetishizers than a character.
The fact that you had to describe all the female characters you listed as "male character's mom", "child," "woman", and "washing machine female hero" instead of their names just shows how irrelevant the mass majority of the female characters are in MHA LOL.
you just KNOW that once my hero wraps up, horikoshi is gonna show the students aged up. and Minetas either gonna be super attractive, or a teacher at ua. and its gonna be messed up no matter what
Yeah, most likely. If we do getta time skip, I’m hoping Mineta’ll learn the errors of his ways, and end up a loser with 3 divorces or something. Not that I hate the character or anything lol
@@poppinmms8980 Of course you don't lollll
Three year old video, no one is gonna see this comment, but when you highlighted the Ura vs Bakugo fight my mind immediatly jumped to Nobara v Momo in JJK. Like I thought that fight was SO cool and empowering and it made me excited about the series, but then both Nobara and Momo are sidelined. It's like these authors include these moments early in a series for the feminist kudos and then shuffle the characters off stage to focus on what they really want to write.
haha found it
As a straight male, I can say with almost 100% certainty that practically nobody likes too much fan service. And don’t even get me started on Mineta. He is the worst fictional character probably ever, and I think everybody can agree on that
I totally agree
-a male
That shit is what turned me off from Fairy Tail.
Fax I couldn’t Finnish fire force which hurt me cause it was really cool but if they weren’t fighting
(hell sometimes when they were fighting)
It’s just straight up titty and ass on screen 💀
Same, it's so annoying at a certain point
Same. Also I’m a gay man so you can imagine how aggravating it is to watch an anime that seems clean (as clean as you can get with violence lol) only for it to show panty or booby shots. Of characters meant to be minors, no less!!
I love how you put the answer ("Yes") in the title. Some put it on the thumbnail, but what you did is somehow even funnier.
Couldn't even wait had to get it out in the title lmao
There was a scene where Uraraka told Deku she was embarrassed about her skin-tight jumpsuit and should have been more specific about the costume she wanted. I think she should have asked for a big costume change after that.
Also also anyone else imagined Uraraka with a wig suit so she can float herself up and glide through the air? And thrusters on her back, arms and legs?
Also what if she got more martial arts training after her time with Gunhead. Maybe get some gloves with metal knuckles and/or other martial arts related weapons?
I totally forgot about that scene but you’re right! That’s another example of like… why didn’t the character just ask for what she wanted out of a costume then? The idea for wings on her costume is super cool too. I’d love to see someone draw it. Thank you for watching and for your comments!!!
@@LadyIneia Thanks so much! I did draw it, though my art skills are not very good. I have it as a short on my channel.
Maybe the thrusters could run on Air so they'd never lose fuel
@@Cosmik60 That is a cool idea! Thanks! I was worried myself about the fuel issue. They would still need some kind of battery though.
@@violettracey Maybe a solar powered one? (Her suit could include tiny little solar panels on the black areas that are flush to the suit for ease of movement)
Really good analysis :) You gained a subscriber.
(Also, 21k dislikes? Ooooof, incels out in force it seems lol. Seriously though... this is the most reasonable, fan-made critique ever. the fact so many people found that objectionable is ridiculous)
A female whining out here and crying about men.. Lmao get a life
FINALLY a video that doesn’t just go “big boobs bad” or “revealing outfits bad” or even “sexual stuff bad”. It explains why these things didn’t work under specific circumstances, and how to write this stuff better moving forward. Thank you for actually having a good take and explaining this from a reasonable standpoint.
I mean, in all fairness, I genuinely hate that people have to dedicate 10-15 minutes of a video to explaining the difference between sexual empowerment, sex for plot, and sex solely for titillation before they can start making a point, but that's sadly where general literacy of the issue is. If you don't do that, you get HUNDREDS of bad counter-examples where the thinnest veneer of explanation for fanservice is applied (like with Momo's costume) to explain some pretty blatantly male gaze-y stuff.
It has always been pretty obvious that when people describe stuff like this as egregious, they don't necessarily mean sex and sexuality is bad. It is entirely an issue of focus and what a character exists for.
Ye it aint that bad really i think
No. The girls are canonically 15-16 and 100% sexualised for the male gaze. Non of them are old/intelligent to understand their sexuality and none of them own it either. This is just one of the bigger issues with shonen anime.
@@sabsain2399 not to say that the over sexualization of them is okay (cause its not) but generally from my own knowledge and understanding 15/16 is actually when people start exploring that side of themselves more, with in many countries 16 directly being the age where you're allowed to have sex with others your own age. I've heard most people either first have sex when 15/16 or when 20+.
exactly, except that 99% of the characters are 15-16 yr olds and still manage to be sexualized (and trust me it gets worse with the nsfw content out there) - it's sad that this isn't talked about ENOUGH in the mha community.
Also Momo in the show is much skinner than she is in the manga, Momo’s quirk works from fat cells so shes chubbier in the manga
It’s not just momo either, most of the girls are a little chubby due to them eating to maintain the calories they burn while exercising, they just don’t bulk like the guys do so they are chubbier, they even downsized Mina’s muscles because she’s much more built in the manga 🤔
Edit: I also believe the girls are chubbier because if they get hit it’ll be less of an impact and not hurt them as much, Kirishima learnt that from fat gum I believe and he isn’t built anymore, he’s a bit chubby :)
I’m not super into the video so idk if she has mentioned this, but the animation team made chubby females much skinnier for the sake of “animation being easier” Not that I agree with it but that’s the official reason why characters like ochako and momo are sized down
@@loyalhackBut they could still make Fat gum and Dekus mom chubby without a problem 😅
@@fel1c1aaa 100% like I think we can all say “animation” is an excuse
@@loyalhack probably drawing a realistic body shape for a girl is way easier than drawing defined abs and muscles for a male character. so if we translate that to animation animating one buff dude should break the bank but it never does?
@@loyalhack definitely an excuse because if they can animate All Might’s full form + those battle scenes they can animate a few extra pounds
Seriously, Nejire being one of the big three is basically just having a token female character in a group of three characters. .
Nejire has a powerful and interesting Quirk, but is consistently sideline. By comparison, Sun Eater and Lemilion both get to showcase their skills, by taking on villains just by themselves. Nejire, doesn't have that despite a Quirk that can take down big villains. There are some people saying: Well, Nejire did have an arc and spotlight during the beauty pageant. Like, wow. If a hero's great arc was a pageant then why be in a school where you are trained to be a hero??
Ryuku, a hero who literally can transform to a Dragon, which means she could be very strong, yet doesn't showcase it at all. Love that bits of additional scene in the recent scene with her, but the fact that Endeavour seemingly had more physical strength than a literal dragon is so disappointing. I mean, Endeavour is muscular but his quirk is just Fire manipulation. Sure he is muscular but Ryuky can turn to a giant Giant Dragon! She can do more!
I could go on but, eh, MHA is just disappointing in a lot of aspects...
Nejire's been doing great recently in the manga. Although the current arc's writing as a whole is not very good.
same and i love nejire :(
@DIO Over Heaven I think you should watch the 4-minute long introduction of this video essay. Bnha did some goods, but it’s not above criticisms.
@DIO Over Heaven well…the anime magically had enough time to develop many male characters, but not a single female student got a proper arc? like come on even the most useless guys in bnha had better moments if not arcs to show their growth
they literally have no excuse to not put as much effort in the female cast
Who…the fuck…cares? Nejire is not a token female character, they’re just…a character. Oh yeah, you also completely forgot about Mirko who literally took on multiple high end nomus like a badass and fought until her body was torn apart. If that’s not enough for you, then too bad, stop watching MHA and go find another anime that will conform to your sensibilities.