New 2021 MT07 is... Disappointing (Sorry Yamaha)
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been looking at bikes for 4 months now. everytime i say "this is what i want and its the best choice for me" Yammie just Fs my brain up
I just broke down and bought a Benelli TNT 135 to mess around on this year and my buddy got an MT03 and I'm having the same dilemma lol I thought I was sold on the MT07 but everytime he puts out a new video I think "well shit".
@@Chestwolf i feel like he's always "triumph triumph triumph" I don't like the look though. So for now I'm sticking to MT07 my secondary is rebel 1100.
@@LErnToplay1 same boat man. i go for my licence at the end of the month and i so badly want the MT07 but then i come and watch videos like this. i do like the Triumph street triple s but its a big price difference. honestly i think the MT07 will be fine.
by this point i think most people are just becoming picky because they have to. learner/650 bikes are so good now and the competition is all really quite close.
@@gridlockedracing2520 yeah. Classes around me are booked for the entire year. Crazy. But I think the mt07 is good. One of the best engines out there and will last forever really.
@@LErnToplay1 oh wow thats crazy, hopefully you can get in somewhere soon. pray for cancellations haha.
but i agree, i will definitely just grab the MT07 due to that reliability, longevity and comfort
That disappointing it will probably be one of the best selling bikes of 2021, 😂😂😂😂😂
They need to bring over the tracer 700. It's all I want.
Am I the only one that absolutely loves the redesign? I really like the more modern and kind of "alien" look. Also the color scheme on the Storm Fluo is just amazing IMO... I don't really understand why no one likes the looks of it. Absolute beauty.
I do think people don't allow themselves or realise that sometimes it takes time to get used to styling. Me personally I like it alot.
Agreed. Much better looking than the previous shield looking headlight.
Same here! I bought a brand new MT-09 (looks almost exactly the same as a 07)few months ago not just because the beautifully tourqie engine but especially because how it looks. I just fell in love with how it looks and people around me asking me still to this day ‘are youuuu suuuuure you wanted that bike?’😀 (i really do apologise for the level how i butchering English here)
I actually really like the mt07 as it is. The only thing I hated was the halogen headlamp
Things are looking better and better for the trident.
@Sony Pony nothing to do with it, but can a 125-bike really be correctly called a moped?
Honestly not the only the fact that it has the awesome 3 banger in such a small bike but it makes more power, the same torque, priced very well and the looks completely slash the MT. The Trident is definitely my next bike
@@thepsychicpeach8425 I was thinking if they could pull a competitive price the bike would be a knockout, and they delivered I'm really impressed with that.
I just love that bike and have started saving already to grab one once it launches here in India
unless you can dish out 2 more grands. At that point you will get the aprilia RS/tuono 660 and blow the competition away under every aspect you can imagine. Or save 2 grands and later regret it forever
Hey, thought I should mention an important correction about the SV650 brakes. You keep saying in videos that the SV650 front brakes are "the same 2 piston Tokico calipers from 1999". They actually revised the 2019 model year SV650 to upgrade the calipers to the dual 4-piston Tokicos (same ones as the Gladius, I believe). Just thought you should know since its a pretty big difference in stopping power now.
It doesn't have wheelie control or slide control because it doesn't have ride by wire throttle. I'll keep the cable actuated throttle and sacrifice the things that this bike doesn't really need like wheelie control or slide control. I do wish it had better suspension though.
Two things this bike needed but didn’t get IMO. suspension upgrade, and slipper clutch. Would have made a world of difference
slipper clutch is stupid for this bike. It's all about engine braking.
@@alter8732 you can engine break with a slipper clutch dude, it just keeps the rear wheel from locking up when new riders downshift to early
@jim O I would happily pay it. I’de much rather have the bike come that way than have to add it myself later 🙄. Especially considering how cheap they can add it vs me buying it aftermarket
@jim O is true. But with a realy good suspension and slipper assist clutch I’m sure people will still buy it. The cb650r goes for $8,900 new. They sell like crazy! Why? It’s a more Premium choice, great suspension, premium motor, tons of tech, etc. And as far as triumph goes There isn’t a triumph dealer within 500 miles of me, and everyone I know that’s owned a triumph old or new, has said there a dumpster fire of issues. I’ll steer clear of the trident
I agree that Americans need slipper clutch
The Triumph Trident is ugly. To my eyes anyway. I'd go CB650R in this class, especially the maroon 2020 color scheme.
I had a 2018 cb650f and it was awesome
What makes you think its ugly??
I just got myself a CB650R but its down to 48hp due to european license laws :D In two years I can go back to the full 95hp. But I can tell you, everything about it is pretty awesome.
@@ezrapardede1921 For me, the tank looks oddly bulbous and top-heavy. Again, this is just how it strikes me personally, but when I see a Trident it looks like a bad facsimile of an RE Himalayan. The Himalayan pulls off that high-front fuel tank and round headlight, but the Trident fails to get those components in the correct place or proportion. I get that the looks are subjective though, so it may be a work of art to other riders.
@@ezrapardede1921 I think it’s ugly because it lacks agressiveness in the design
Yammie doesn’t like a Yammie?! Whaaaaaat?! Lol
Excited that there’s a later-than-usual video release.
4:08 The SV also got new brakes in 2019 at least here in Europe it got 4 Piston brakes up front now.
Yes the new MT is the same MT, I agree with your conclusion. I was really looking for a meaningful suspension upgrade. Hey how about SP version, with decent inverted forks (my MT15 here in Indonesia has them), radial brakes and a good shock. I don't get why the suspension seems to be an afterthought.
Nice review, thanks. Would you add a third party cartridge to the forks if you bought one? What about the shock. Thanks P
soundsd like Yamaha is getting a little lazy with this bike. Here's hoping Trident kicks their ass enough to shake them out of the rut
5:12 Had MT07 as my first bike, The forks were the only thing that broke when low-siding..... Thanks, Yamaha X.x
At least the good thing is you can't go wrong picking any of these bikes
Exactly, it is about character and gizmos nowadays.
They couldn’t have fixed the garbage suspension?! Cmon mate
I’m forgetting what Yammie Noob looks like since Spite joined.
suspension is good. This is not racing machine bro ;-)
Mara Horázný no it isn’t, you must not own one loll bounciest suspension ever made
@@updogyee1290 i didn´t notice, maybee my stock is good :-) Seriously, I have no problem
@@marahorazny8001 It’s a budget bike, the suspensions the same on all bikes of this price, including the Triumph trident. What you do get is a great engine with proven reliability.
would love to see a a MT-07 SP like they did with the MT-09
Kawasaki is supposed to announce their new stuff in a couple weeks too. Trident looks awesome though.
actually,for its price (6700 euros),and what it offers,along with the most reliable engine up to now,its a very good bike
Isn’t it 7,300 euros?
@@kasparas97 6500€ here
8200 here 😑
@@perryplugge9233 that's pain, where is it?
@@benyy4329 where €6500?
Im buying the MT07 2021 I like the design, it will be my Second bike (after my 15hp bike) is Cheap enough to Buy as a new Bike. Im getting it for 7K€ (already reduced power since im from Germany)
@@cassius348 I like the look. The performance is like 1hp less cause of euro5 regulations. The store where I bought it also sold an old one for 6k, then I'd have to pay an extra 350€,for the "power reducer" (idk the English name). So it's fine for me. When you hate the look then I get why you want the older one
I hope you'll enjoy it. I had it on my watchlist for a while, but I've decided I'll go for Hondas CB650R having started on a first generation CB125R and having enjoyed every second on it.
@@derweiehelge9087 I've now hit the 1000km mark and I really do enjoy it
@@lukyva7955 how u finding the bike, I’m stuck between a mt07 or a cbr650r
@@SuperGamingcarrot I like it, I'm riding the throttled 35kw version. It's a really smooth ride, the suspension is soft but I like it that way. The bike as continuous power so no "power spikes" at certain rpm.
If you really want to know then better take it on a test ride
It really doesn’t need a better front end. It’s already perfectly balanced for the size of the engine. The suspension works great as a commuter, carver, wheelie bike. I put 30,000 miles on mine and never really wanted a stiff suspension on it.
Plus, if the Trident can make a more reliable engine, that would be impressive.
would really like yammie noob to talk about the new Kawasaki line up they are announcing in a weeks time. super keen to see what they unveil I hope they make a bigger KLR honestly
Yammie! you just said this class bike shouldn't have quickshifters..... this video is full of contradictions
beansman2010 that’s his personality. Get used to it
He said optional quickshifter
Optional quick shifter from factory. Beginners shouldn’t have QS. Someone else who’s more experienced would enjoy it. There’s no contradiction
Just too ugly for me. Thinking about getting the RS660 instead.
i have the cb 650r loving it
Is the Rs660 twice the price where you’re at too?
@@FullmetalSP1 triumph is 8000eu, rs660 is 10.000eu, tuono will be a bit cheaper. twice the price WHERE??
@@PaoloD2R2 and in comparison to the MT07?
@@PaoloD2R2 rs660 is € 12.450,00 bro. trident is € 8.995,00, mt-07 is € 7.999,00
How does the MT03 have inverted front suspension but the MT07 does not?
Hi are you by any chance being sponsored by Triumph? I thought the video was about the Mt-07
The head light looks like legion in mass effect
Was thinking the same thing, Shepard Commander
Yamaha right now screaming "this whammy pube guy is killing our vibe" XD
get a teleprompter so you don't have to keep looking down - you can make them from an existing tablet using the ones on amazon for a couple hundred bucks
Anyone know if we should expect a refresh for the xsr700/900 based on the changes on the MT lineup?
Maybe next year
I think thats what happened with the original, I wouldn’t get the MT line because I don’t like the looks.
I’d go for a new XSR, the CB650R, or the trident
@@kitandrei now that I look at it again, I guess the 07 engine didn't get changed that much. A little better internals like valve seats but basically the exact same engine. The 09 engine is quite more different.
@@Syreious thats what makes the 07 good the engine. Its the best sounding bike ever.
Can’t stand the look of the new MT range, I own a 2019 MT09 with carbo fibre akrapoic. love the look and is a fun bike. Yamaha missed the trick of putting the same headlight on the Mt07 as the Mt09 would have sold 10x as many in my opinion. Heck if they had done that I would have sold my MT09 for the MT07.
That is such competitive class, that I'm glad I'm not a motorcycle exec. I would love to have the Triumph, but I also wouldn't mind having the Yamaha or the Kawasaki. They are all so close on price point, that I think it warrants test riding them all before you purchase one (if you have that luxury in your area.) I know which way I'd be leaning, but that would just be my opinion. It's a great time to ride, as there is a flavor for pretty much everyone.
Test ride is important, it will come down to what shines on the day. Great to have the problem of which great bike to buy.
I think Yamaha plans on doing an actual refresh but with covid they're taking the safe route for the time being. Also im sure they're worried about a price increase. The motor and the price is what really sells the bike
You can’t use covid as an excuse when there’s companies like honda redesigning bikes and putting new engines in them.
the design works on the 07 but NOT on the 09
From what i notice, it's because the face of it is slightly bigger and mounted lower compared to the 09
If the 09 headlight was a couple inches lower it would look so much better
You can just have the dealer change the fork oil to a 15w oil for anyone more than 140 lbs and change the static sag for the rear depending on weight if you like to ride aggressive.
I would love to know what you think on the GSX S 750 :)
Personally i like the new revised design on the front, but really upset with no usd forks, still giving that garbage suspension. I own 2019 model.
I think a 90s sport bike review is in order, you know for us mere mortals than can't afford a new bike. Be sure to include the YZF600R thundercat.. because I own one 😂
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What's that poster/pic on the top left on the wall
Did they fix the suspension? Add comfort seat? Small windscreen?
Yammie You should check out the 2021 cb650r. New better suspension, updated the small screen with better angle for less glare and gave if bigger font. And engine has been slightly updated for euro 5. But has 1 more ft lb of torque and 2 more HP
Why are the brakes bad? Was looking into upgrading the calipers on my fz but cannot find any damn info anywhere, and I mean anywhere
I actually would have liked a svartpilen 401 style bike with this motor. Seriously would have had me scouring local dealerships for it. But it’s just...well, your video says it all.
Yammie, is there a quick shifter for the 2021 MT07?
hey can you plzzzzz make a "so you want to buy a honda shadow" video :)
How is there still no MT-07 SP ffs
Not sure why you think the Triumph has superior suspension to the MT-07. The Triumph uses Showa's bottom-of-the-barrel SFF forks which use damper rods from the Pleistocene era. They're upside down. Big deal. It's still junk suspension. If you want better quality than complete crap, the boingers have to be cartridge and those will have damping adjustment front and rear.
👆🏼Ding ding ding
Guaranteed the triumph rides better lol
I’ve really been looking forward to driving the new MT07. I hope it’s still enjoyable despite these negative points.
I am rather liking that grey color and red rims. I would buy it with that small single eye headlight on it.
What you think of the supposed 2021 Hyabusa?
Just checked out a new MT and XSR and yes I’ll agree that they should have added more since almost all their competition has more features. But I still like it better than the Z650 or SV650. More comfortable and I think, better styling.
I agree plus the z650 engine sound is disgusting the sv is too basic
This is the only video I found that is not a positive review about this motorcycle, I mean the lack of features is a plus for me, it makes more focused on the ride itself and enjoying it, and i never really use the features anyway even I have them, its mostly the same bike but with a better look to it, if it sells like crazy why would Yamaha change it anyway, I love it just like this, it's simple and fun
I am going to buy a 1997 yamaha tdr 125. Iz it good?
Nearly bought a 2020 yesterday then saw the 2021 and backed out the deal. I think the styling upgrades are much better. Yes the suspension kinda sucks and needs to be upgraded. Also the one I wanted was blue with blue rims, ugly as hell actually.
So how’s the bike been
9:20 wrong picture...talking about the sv and a wild cb650 apears ...
I wonder if it was intencional
I agree with some things like Brakes and suspension, but MT07 is never disappointing.
Thinking of buying the MT07 early next year. Should I go with the 2021 version or the older one? Expecting to see a reduced price in the 2020 model so not sure if it’s better to pay more for the new one or go safe with the older version. Help!
Im getting the 22 model but the big difference is the seating feels like two completely different bikes because the old one your knees hit the frame rail that pissed me off without even riding it. The new one the bike fits like a glove and doesn’t have a metal pole to the kneecap. The handle bars are closer and wider so feel much better and the bike to me feels more aggressive and ready to turn a lot quicker im picking mine up in two weeks😁
I own a 2017 mt07 I love it but Yamaha should update the front suspension it's just terrible. I modded mine with some rubber stops and better oil but it's just ok now...
Totally agree with the Yamster. Love my 2015 FZ-07 but the 2021 model is not improved enough for me to
upgrade. If it had a larger engine (750cc) and better suspension and a quick shifter then yeah I would upgrade.
Also don't like the character of the MT-09 in line 3 cylinder engine. Give me a MT-09 with a twin and I would buy one.
I don't have a bike but I love watching bike reviews 😁
When are you gonna review the Vulcan S
My first bike was an r6 coming off dirtbikes and it was too much but I was super confident at 16 on the fz. I hit a growth spurt at 17 though and the fz was just too small for me but the power was perfect and ended up on a mt09. Super similar bikes but anyone over 5 10 is too big for the fz
Im going for the Triumph Trident - so much better
Really ? More torque in mt07 with proven (6 years) of reliability and cheaper. But hey, the manufacturers in Thailand have sprayed a Union Jack on it, so I guess your right...BTW, how did they compare when you rode them both ?
@@douglasalexander4348 it's the reliability for me
@@augustinemichael7697 yup, Yamaha mt has proven reliability with same performance.
@@douglasalexander4348 triumphs build quality is top of the class, their reliability has been proven even if the trident is new. Also the trident has more bhp. A lot more in fact. Also have you just seen the exhaust in the mt-07 showcase vid? I could weld better with a blindfold on. Its horrid. Yamaha got lazy. The trident has got nothing but positive reviews. Literally.
I like Yamaha's quality, but the mt-07 this year is disappointing for such a popular bike
@@martinp1539 The reviews ? You mean reviewed whilst on holidays paid for by Triumph haha. You ridden one ? Nope, but you know it’s better ? BTW Torque is higher on mt07. You’ll understand why that’s better than bhp unless your on W.O.T. Point is, MT07 has 5 years proven reliability with no issues. Triumph have not, as it’s now made in Thailand, we’ll see how that quality works out in 5 years. Glad they BOTH exist because choice is a great thing. But the Triumph is no game changer like the mt07 was, neither is it made in Britain despite the Union Jack, which should give you an idea of Triumphs marketing bull. Nice looking though.
With inflation going on, parts and manufacturing shortage. For the price, this is actually an *excellent* bike and will sell a bunch. These are all very calculated business decisions and there are a lot of people involved in these decisions.
Have a video on MT07 suspension upgrade?
I own a MT07 (2018) which I've modified quite a bit so do have LED's all around on it
I personally do not like this new look of it this new model at all.
The only thing I would like on mine honestly would be the screen as I have the old LCD one.
Still, MT07 is nice to ride, I will still keep this bike for a couple of years!
And I'll be honest, the Triumph Trident looks are not for me at all, the CB650R beats it by miles for an old-school look
I dont like the new headlight, nor the loss of the cool wavy disc brakes.
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Do you recommend the Mt-07 for a beginners or should I just go with a Mt-03 or the R3
I know your not asking me but here is my 2 cents. Mt-07 is a great beginner bike. Plenty of power but still very forgiving for newer riders. Yes it’s punchy and torquey but just be easy with that right wrist and it can be very smooth and approachable. And you can grow into it and still have a blast. . I’ve owned a few 1000cc sport bikes and when I rode the mt-07 I still had so much fun and am considering buying one. Unless you’ve legitimately never ridden a motorcycle before and are just starting out I’d say get the 07 if so start with the 03 to get comfortable with riding:)
@@MrRhixxx I appreciate the feedback brotha 🙏
I just started riding and bought an MT-03 as my first bike 6 months ago and already wish I bought a bigger bike. I'd say buy the bigger bike and take it easy on the throttle and you'll be ok.
I've owned a fz07(stolen), fz6 (totaled when i got hit sitting at a red light), and now a mt09. I really think the fz07 is my favorite. Along the lines of what Yammie noob said, mt09 has soo much power you almost can't enjoy it.
Idk bud... I went from an 07 to the 09 earlier this year and never looked back. Roommate currently has an 07 and it feels like a kids toy to me now lol
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Hi all, european here. I'm a bikless squid, and will be for a couple more years (waiting to be 24 to be able to jump directly to the unrestricted biking licence). But when I do get it, I'd not mount a Busa straight away. I'm planning on getting something around the 650cc power band (max. about 70kw/93-95bhb) to be able to restrict it to an A2 level to avoid having to buy two bikes in a relatively short time span. What my quiestion would be is whether it is a viable option or not (regardless of any specific bikes, looking mostly at ADV/classic style/scrambler/naked/cafe bikes)? What does one have to know about this "restriction"option? I've seen that there are bikes that can come as factory restricted (if bought new), or a restrictir kit can be installed (this would be more probable for me, not wanting to trash a new bike). Or should I just play it safe/tradtional and go for a lower cc bike first? Thanks in advance. Peace!
The poor updates to this, is what's causing me to really look at a Trident as an upgrade bike. Unless the XSR700 comes out with some nice updates (doubtful) Though I would really like a fully faired bike in this group, that's a little better than the Ninja 650 & cheaper than the CBR650R...
"Poor updates"? Huh?
I know they say there are better options but i love the mt 07 and i will get it as my first bike if i get one new anyway. Hard to find them used where i live
I think they did it right. It only needs tc imo. Dash looks ok. Modes on a 70 hp bike is unnecessary i think. Mt07 is a cool bike
If It would come to Brazil, 2021, I would buy It. But they keep one year delay for our market. I went to Kawa dealer to know new Z650 and that was disapointment. So, options are "old" MT09 or the awsome Z900.
See, the size of the headlight fits very nicely on the MT07. Like I wrote on the MT09 video, I like the cyclops, dystopian vibe... but on the MT09 it's just dispropotionate. On the little sister? Very nice!
As for the rest... I agree... I had hoped for a new model, Yamaha delivered a freshened-up MT07. Oh well...
Inverted lcd:
Myself: hey cool
Also myself: But no TFT...
I've just ordered q new mt 07 but I just use it for going to work and a occasional ride.
@yammie noob why not compare Ktm duke 790 with rest?
Everytime I start liking a bike yammie goes and and disses it
I actually like the look of the new MT07 and MT09. It looks ( alot) like the new Ducati Monster. In fact, the new Monster though good looking is just not unique anymore. And my area just lost the Ducati dealership ( boo!)
They could've changed/fixed the suspension on that bike and NOTHING else, and it would still probably remain at the top of its class. Welp, their loss as the former King of the 650 class bike 🤷🏻♂️😓😓
I want a video series of you upgrading the old MT-07 to the new MT-07, swapping all the upgraded parts.
So, if you had a choice: would you pick up a 2020, or a 2021?
Yes definitely
Damn how many videos has yam filmed recently
Are they doing anything to the mt-10??
Not for 2021
I mean I looked at the thumbnail and said , thats a better headlight than the new 09's...
Does my Patreon membership give me entries for the giveaways?
YAMMIE HOW IN THE HECK WOULD U CHANGE THE CROSSPLAN??
I think reliability is what Yamaha is banking on, I would trade so many other gadgets for a cp2
Hi Yammie Noob
I don’t necessarily agree with more tech. It’s a budget (ish) bike this will just push up the price but Yamaha should focus on getting the basics right.
Come on Yamaha, even the mt15 also have usd forks
I don't really think that the MT-07 even needs a rider modes on it. I ride a Z900 and the only time I change the rider mode is in the rain.
Did Yam get one of these yet?
Hamper sales?!?!?!? I went to two dealers today. 2021 Yamaha MT-07/09 are out of stock and are on back order. The earliest I can buy one is mid september if lucky. The latest after new year. Not to mention I called 4 other dealerships today and they all have the same story.
I don't like the vents because isnt like before i prefer bigger but out!! (Owner of mt07 17')
Brakes at front is real good the problem is back!! At back brakes.. the front light is not so good because seem to be a smaller bike with that!! I will prefer led with front light of 19'
The mt07 is a budget fun naked bike. Can't expect all those tech an the dash for 2021 is pretty decent for what it is. I'll surely appriciate the soft suspension since my R6 kills me on my shitty roads.