You took the trouble to video yourself mounting the bike, which many moto journalists never do when they are doing a solo vid. I appreciate that very much as i get to see the overall look of the bike with someone on it.
I just traded my 2019 KTM Duke 390 for a 2021 MT07 and the KTM was a noticeably brighter and a better light. You can still see with the MT though, it’s not dark.
You speak about motorcycles like you apreciate the machine and people who made it. I saw that in all your videos and I respect that. Pleasent experience to watch your videos. Geeetings from 🇹🇩
Excellent review Scott. Very relaxed and informative. I have to say, even though the price was raised just over 300 Euros, the improvements to the bike warrant the extra cash. We are talking an evolutionary process of the most successful naked motorcycle of the last 15 years. Slightly bigger and better brakes, better transmission linkage, fuel mapping improvements, handlebar improvements, lighting improvements and led signals et al. Worth more than three hundred bucks folks.... I disagree with some comments here about yamaha's greed and complacency. I think if they were complacent, they would have left the ergonomics to be subpar, left crappy brakes, Yamahas Infamous horrible turn signals, and left the bike alone. That would have been a bigger mistake.
Ordered. Now I need to remain patient for 2 weeks, but its sooooo hard 😄 im switching from an old kawasaki zr7, so quite a huge step in terms of technology
I think the mt-07 is still the best in the category, that engine is tons of fun and has proven to be extremely reliable! Any chance you can do a test ride on the new Ducati monster?
A great, comprehensive review as always. I don't think Yamaha saw the Triumph Trident coming did they. This new revision could be too little too late. 👍
@@NothingToProve could we expect a new revision in 2022 to improve some things now that they know of the existence of the trident? A new inverted front shock and LCD display for example? I'm not expecting to see drive modes or traction control in the next two years, as that involves more development work and costs.
Thanks for nice reviews. Looking for first bike and your calm and neutral style is fantastic, I'm also from early 70's and approx. same lenght as you are. These videos have really given me a perspective on different models in this middle class. Thank you and greetings from Finland
Hi Scott I’m loving the new look of your channel, it’s all the small touches like the new graphs , and animation with little arrows , don’t know if you have new cameras but the pictures crisp and colours really pop , it’s obvious how much work you put in now , it looks really professional it’s. 2 thumbs up from me 😉👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you! And thank you for letting me know that you notice the subtle tweaks. Sometimes I wonder if anyone notices and it's guys like you that tell me, then I know it's worth it! Thank you once again, Scott
Hey Scott..Please let viewers know that manufactures typically give hp ratings to the crank not to the wheel. I own the 2nd ever off Japanese 2014 line fz07. Modified to 83 hp and 54.2 lb tq at the rear tire. dyno before ecu flash stock was 70hp 47 .lb tq I am Huge fan, and watch weekly. Excellent information and reviews from your channel. Kenosha Wis
Love your reviews/videos man. Really do. And especially your chanel name and message, ride like there's nothing to prove. Big fat like and a sub from me. You are one really cool dude! 👍
As an older, experienced rider (age 61) I bought a 2019 model recently. In my opinion I think it’s best used as a budget bike or for new riders. My complaints are the suspension on less than smooth roads, freeway speed (above 70mph) vibes in the handlebars and a busy sounding engine. The seat, although wide and supportive was uncomfortable quite soon. The power and torque were fantastic, the brakes excellent, as was the transmission. A good bike, just not refined enough for me.
The subjective aspect of each motorcycle is what is most interesting. I want to know which motorcycle makes your heart sing among the ones on the chart. Is it the Honda, is it the Triumph, or is it another bike all together that somebody pick up around the same price range? That's my question to you, Scott.
I think, I like the SV650 better. The V2-engine is imho even better and the design is more I like it. Still both bikes are obviously not for me, just because of the size. I would have to compare the V-Strom and the Tracer. But the result would be the same. Nice video as always! Take care and stay healthy Scott! 👍
Nice review as ever! Clear comparisons with the competition as a useful extra. BTW Scott; has your wife made her choice what bike will be the follow-up to the Monkey?
Thank you Larry, My wife is taking her time with that decision, she wants another summer on the Honda Monkey, we were not able to do a lot of riding last summer, got out together maybe 4 times for just a few hours in total. So over this last winter she said that it's not time yet to move up in size, so we'll take it slow and hopefully do more riding this summer. Covid19 really put a damper on over night/weekend motorcycle trips...etc. so maybe we will get more time this summer but the out-look is not looking promising :( Take care, Scott
Scott Really enjoy your great honest reviews. Which (MT07 or MT09) has better ergonomics, epecially leg room, for a pillion? Based on photos it appears MT07 has better leg room for a passenger... I am considering a 2021 MT 07 or MT09. Any experience with this... What is your opinion on ergonomics for both rider & pillion?
Thank you David, Sorry, I've no experience with 2up on these two bikes. But the 09 is higher and a little bit bigger and usually, key word there is "usually", that means more room/better for the pillion passenger. The 09 fits me better than the 07, more leg room, and just a little more up-right riding position. take care, Scott
Are there absolutely no internal changes to its terrible front fork? As far as torque and power, the peak numbers have gone down, but are there any improvments in other parts of the rev range?
hello, i'm from portugal, i have the same mt 07, same color, but model;2020, and in my opinion,..nobody will change their older 07 for this newer one, which in my opinion is the best thing for me I think, to be better,.. is the design of the tank, air intakes,.. and its handlebars,.., I wouldn't mind having it on my 07, this handlebar, a little wider, and closer to the pilot, ..I think it makes a good difference ,.. otherwise ,.. I even prefer my model,.. and it even has a little more power ,..freer , which in my case is even more , because I put full escape ( exhaust sistem ),.. and it got even better ,.., but it's still a mt 07 ,.. very fun !!
Next spring its this one or z 650. leaning towards this one depending on the new features for 2022 model. Tft dash and bigger tank on the kawasaki really makes this a battle for me. Was pretty sure i would get the Mt07 before but still cant deside.
@Back2Bay6 I'm looking at a V7 as a 2nd bike for town/short rides. Looks funky and different. Can get a 2016 2ith 3000 miles for £5K. Plus no chain maintenance. Nearest Guzzi dealer 200 miles away though :( Glad you are enjoying V7.
Hi Scott, quick question from a Chinese motor newbie here (just got my licence 3 months ago, and now riding Yamaha NMAX 155 for daily commute). Which one do you recommend for a green hand, 2021 SV 650 (Euro 11915) or 2021 MT-07 (Euro 15248)? Or even Ninja 400 (Euro 7055)? as the first motorbike to ride. Million thanks here. BTW, really love your way to test bikes, and 'teaching wife ride' series.
Thank you 😁 I personally would take the SV650 cause it has so much character and is so playful, the others are a bit lighter but here is a big BUT, I would never get bored with the SV & the looks are classic . So, thinking long term, the SV would be a better choice. And if you ever wanted to do "track days" the SV is the best choice because the mods available for the SV are just endless. Bottom line, let your heart pick the bike and consider the dealer that you are buying from too. Good luck, Scott
Yes, I see you picked up on that. The SV is so much more "playful" and has "soul". The MT07 is so refined that the playfulness and soul are missing. Don't get me wrong the MT is very good, almost too good, "for it's own good". LOL! So if you want a technically perfect bike, then the MT07 is the bike. But if you want a bike that will always make you grin from ear to ear, every time all the time, then the SV is the bike that gets more smiles per mile. :)
@@NothingToProve Thanks! I ride the MT03 for the last 6 mnths and already thinking of upgrading. I think its a great 1st bike and I'll prbly keep it for a little while but eventually I'll switch. That SV650 looks like the perfect all around bike. Keep up the good work!
When can we expect a review Aprilia Tuono 660? I am very anxious to compare comfort and fun compared to the RS 660. And this is very important especially at the (similar) age we are in. Thank you for such cool presentations.
Thank you and you're welcome. Well, I will go next week to see if the new Tuono is in yet, it was supposed to be in last month (March) but delayed cause of Covid19...etc. So I hope soon, just doing the bikes I can with all these delays and delays...sucks.
I like the new headlight. When I look at the front of the bike it makes me sort of curious. Wouldn't say that the one on e.g. Trident is ugly but is bland, I look at it and don't care, just another copy of street twin or xsr. I didn't particularly like KTM headlight and the whole front, but when I saw 890 up close...wooow, it looks very cool. Much better in real life than on screen. Value wise, Yamaha is much better, if someone has a tight budget. They offered one of my colleagues a very decent discount + heated grips, crash bars, and some other minor accessories. Triumph gave him nothing. With quick shifter, h. grips and crash bars you easily crossing 8.3k euro mark.
@11:49 There is no aftermarket LED for last year's model available that is legal in all EU countries and those aftermarket solutions are at least as expensive as the entire upgrade. :)
I love this bike and I want to try it out. but I keep hearing the suspension is not great, Especially for bigger riders, I’m 6’5 225lbs. Your thoughts?
Yea, this was kind of small for me and I'm 5'10" 185, so you might want to step up in size, like the MT09, Z900, something in that range might fit you better. Ride safe, Scott
Incremental changes are fine. They still hasnt addressed the suspension which was always its greatest flaw. I think the trident will rob the MT07 of many sales but maybe this category will just get larger.
Yea, especially in light of the CB650R got an update to Showa SFF-BP! SFF = Separate Fork Function and the new part is BP = the Big Piston! So Triumph and Honda are leaving the MT07 behind there.
I did it already, a day or two after I rode this, I wanted to ride them both as close together as possible. I just haven't released the video for the Trident as of yet. Saturday :)
Hmm....interesting indeed! Highest in sales, not necessarily the best. It's more hitting the sweet spot being in the middleweight naked budget group. Most can't buy MT09/10, too much money and the MT03 is too little so the 07 is in the sweet spot!
I wonder if Suzuki is finally giving the SV a decent update? Yamaha will continue to sell these at large numbers, I think the value is still there just not as much as previous years.
There's speculation that suzuki might do away with the v-twin engine, in the 650cc class, and move to a parallel twin engine configuration like this MT 07. It's just simply easy and cheaper for suzuki, to manufacture parallel twin engines, over v-twins. So if that happens, it won't be a SV650 any more, but a new model of bike in the 650cc class.
@@kimw200blaze4 We'll see how it sounds, I'm sure it'll be reliable. Is it to be better in the super twin category? Beyond that it just needs to update the looks and keep on the value price side. Excited to see some new stuff from Suzuki and I hope they can follow their GP win with some great bikes.
@@NothingToProve updated the suspension again. Updated to the lcd display. Slight weight savings. And the power went up about 1.3 hp and 1ft lb of torque “on a dyno”. Not huge update but seems interesting enough to compare. The biggest change is the forks
Well, it just came out in 2019 and now in 2021 it's a "light refresh" because of Euro5. I think since they had to update the motor to Euro5, they "refreshed" a few things. Two things went in the wrong direction, toque down and weight up (according to Honda). Torque got less and higher in the RPM range, was 47.2@8,500 now 46.46@9,500, not good there. And the weight increased by 2 pounds, which is common for Euro5 compliance (same +2 lbs as the MT07). But hp seems to be the same. The LCD is now color but still the same LCD that is difficult to see in the sun...at least I'm assuming from the pictures from Honda. Suspension was Showa SFF, now it's Showa SFF BP, so they just added the "big Piston" which is nice and I would only notice that difference on a track day, I would not notice "BP" on the street doing legal speeds. I don't know...hmm...I'll take a look at it when I see it in person and then decide from there, the deciding factor is if I think I can get enough clicks to justify taking the 25+ hours to make a video. Since I just did the launch of it in 2019. Ride safe, Scott
@@NothingToProve I can see the miss conception on the weight on my end. They were claiming weight savings from the forks. The lcd has a brighter background light and the font was increased to help visibility. I actually did see this on a side by side with my 2019. As far as the power numbers I got those from motorcyclist magazines Chanel. They dyno tested the 2019 and the 2021 and the the 2021. and after watching it again the claimed numbers were +1.5hp and +2ft lb over the 2019 to the wheel. I’ve seen there were supposed to be some changes to the internationals on the motor. For euro 5 yes but supposed It helped smooth out the power dip between 5-6k rpm. Either way I appreciate your time and response man 👍 ride safe
@@bubonicrider8021 yamaha doesn't love bringing euro designed bikes to japan. Never did (probably wont) get the tracer 700. So I don't buy yamahas.... sad times
@@NothingToProve Omg 🤔 is it upgraded or something? because i want to do a driving school and buy this bike, and i watch x videos and in every video it have eh meh sound but this? 😦🤤 (sorry for my english)
Wow only know I realize that they added a second catalytic converter just below the radiator and covered it with an aluminum heat shield. Looks a bit ugly from the front But the ugliest thing is that headlight, the old one is 10x better.
Wonder if the chassis still goes rusty after a week, like mine did way back when they first came out. Nice engine, shame about the rest of the bike though. Ever since it was launched people have complained about the cheap suspension and what do they do as an update? An ugly headlight and new handle bars. Come on Yamaha. Sort it out. (Nothing personal to you Mr reviewer, just a bit disappointed at the bike).
Yea, I was a little disappointed too, if they had updated the suspension, then it would be a great bike but for now Yamaha did just enough to stay ahead in sales...no more no less...sad.
@@NothingToProve Thing is. They are no longer ahead. If I was going to buy a new middleweight naked bike then I would probably have the Triumph as it's actually new, not just re hash of an old model. Of course, if I could afford it I'd have the Aprilia but that's a whole new ball game. On the other hand, what do I know? I own an MV Agusta Brutale 660 so I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about ;-)
The new MT-07 is uglier, has a weaker engine while the mt-09 has made it stronger, it also has telescopic forks when the mt-03 already has inverted forks. I have the impression that the MT-07 paid the price for all updates to the MT lineup.
That headlight unit looks like a Chinese knock-off part ! ... suppose it matches the rest of the acres of plastic these Yamaha's are covered in . They clearly must appeal to a certain demographic , to me they just look cheap .
Hay EURO you can bl-w me, all your compliance is doing is messing up our bikes. You want EURO5 keep it in Europe and leave the rest of us alone. The bikes are running so lean they are not going to last long as the bikes should and the price keeps going up.
Loved the relaxed atmosphere of the review. I’m tired of intense excited reviews with rock music. Yet, the analysis is more scientific and thorough.
I just shut off 📴 a EXITING BIKE 🚲 REVIEW,,, lol 😆🧂🤠
Yea man it’s all chill nothing to prove here
You took the trouble to video yourself mounting the bike, which many moto journalists never do when they are doing a solo vid. I appreciate that very much as i get to see the overall look of the bike with someone on it.
Plus you know if you can flat foot it or not, I mean at least you get an idea.
I really like the new headlight. It says the future is here
I totally agree, it’s one of the reasons I bought one.
I just traded my 2019 KTM Duke 390 for a 2021 MT07 and the KTM was a noticeably brighter and a better light. You can still see with the MT though, it’s not dark.
@@drbigmix7752 have fun, it’s a beautiful machine all round.
You speak about motorcycles like you apreciate the machine and people who made it. I saw that in all your videos and I respect that. Pleasent experience to watch your videos. Geeetings from 🇹🇩
Excellent review Scott. Very relaxed and informative. I have to say, even though the price was raised just over 300 Euros, the improvements to the bike warrant the extra cash. We are talking an evolutionary process of the most successful naked motorcycle of the last 15 years. Slightly bigger and better brakes, better transmission linkage, fuel mapping improvements, handlebar improvements, lighting improvements and led signals et al. Worth more than three hundred bucks folks.... I disagree with some comments here about yamaha's greed and complacency. I think if they were complacent, they would have left the ergonomics to be subpar, left crappy brakes, Yamahas Infamous horrible turn signals, and left the bike alone. That would have been a bigger mistake.
Ordered. Now I need to remain patient for 2 weeks, but its sooooo hard 😄 im switching from an old kawasaki zr7, so quite a huge step in terms of technology
I'm waiting for mine since february, imagine that!
I think the mt-07 is still the best in the category, that engine is tons of fun and has proven to be extremely reliable! Any chance you can do a test ride on the new Ducati monster?
A great, comprehensive review as always. I don't think Yamaha saw the Triumph Trident coming did they. This new revision could be too little too late. 👍
Agreed!
@@NothingToProve could we expect a new revision in 2022 to improve some things now that they know of the existence of the trident? A new inverted front shock and LCD display for example? I'm not expecting to see drive modes or traction control in the next two years, as that involves more development work and costs.
@@hsimoes84 for 2022 we got a new color 😁
Thanks for nice reviews. Looking for first bike and your calm and neutral style is fantastic, I'm also from early 70's and approx. same lenght as you are. These videos have really given me a perspective on different models in this middle class. Thank you and greetings from Finland
I wonder why Yamaha hasn't refreshed the XSR line yet. Maybe they're cooking something up to take on the Trident next year
I like your safety message, and your nice steady riding backs up your words. Nothing to prove!
Hi Scott I’m loving the new look of your channel, it’s all the small touches like the new graphs , and animation with little arrows , don’t know if you have new cameras but the pictures crisp and colours really pop , it’s obvious how much work you put in now , it looks really professional it’s. 2 thumbs up from me 😉👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you! And thank you for letting me know that you notice the subtle tweaks. Sometimes I wonder if anyone notices and it's guys like you that tell me, then I know it's worth it!
Thank you once again,
Scott
I can’t tell you how intrigued I am by the property your friend lets you use. Is he a farmer? He sells lumber? What a paradise for riding
Hey Scott..Please let viewers know that manufactures typically give hp ratings to the crank not to the wheel. I own the 2nd ever off Japanese 2014 line fz07. Modified to 83 hp and 54.2 lb tq at the rear tire. dyno before ecu flash stock was 70hp 47 .lb tq I am Huge fan, and watch weekly. Excellent information and reviews from your channel. Kenosha Wis
Scott i was off by 1 on trq, im no bull s*itter. Please forgive and forget. My son caught it.
I have just enjoyed another of your great reviews. And once again, thank you for the charts.
Glad you like them!
take care,
Scott
Thank for an honest and good review. Looking forward to the next review. 🏍😊
I think King is the keyword here , in the US it's been the King since it came out every year being thee best seller of the sport bike genre .
Nail on head, Scott. Yamaha may well be killing their CP2 golden goose through complacency and greed. Shame.
Great honest review Scott. 👍
And the sv650 with an engine almost 25years old still holds pretty well among this new bikes and engines. To me it is still the winner!
Love your reviews/videos man. Really do. And especially your chanel name and message, ride like there's nothing to prove.
Big fat like and a sub from me. You are one really cool dude! 👍
As an older, experienced rider (age 61) I bought a 2019 model recently. In my opinion I think it’s best used as a budget bike or for new riders. My complaints are the suspension on less than smooth roads, freeway speed (above 70mph) vibes in the handlebars and a busy sounding engine. The seat, although wide and supportive was uncomfortable quite soon. The power and torque were fantastic, the brakes excellent, as was the transmission. A good bike, just not refined enough for me.
Fantastic review!
Yes one of the Best if not the Best👌
Cool guy, cool review. Got the MT07 Tracer (2019), first bike.
Really happy with it, think the gears are a bit clunky...
After Market Exhaust with CP2 Sound it's Cool. Thankyou for your review.
The subjective aspect of each motorcycle is what is most interesting. I want to know which motorcycle makes your heart sing among the ones on the chart. Is it the Honda, is it the Triumph, or is it another bike all together that somebody pick up around the same price range? That's my question to you, Scott.
I read the verse. it's a sad one.
I think, I like the SV650 better.
The V2-engine is imho even better and the design is more I like it.
Still both bikes are obviously not for me, just because of the size. I would have to compare the V-Strom and the Tracer. But the result would be the same.
Nice video as always!
Take care and stay healthy Scott! 👍
Agreed, my heart belongs to the SV650!
Take care Simon,
Scott
Nice review as ever! Clear comparisons with the competition as a useful extra. BTW Scott; has your wife made her choice what bike will be the follow-up to the Monkey?
Thank you Larry,
My wife is taking her time with that decision, she wants another summer on the Honda Monkey, we were not able to do a lot of riding last summer, got out together maybe 4 times for just a few hours in total. So over this last winter she said that it's not time yet to move up in size, so we'll take it slow and hopefully do more riding this summer. Covid19 really put a damper on over night/weekend motorcycle trips...etc. so maybe we will get more time this summer but the out-look is not looking promising :(
Take care,
Scott
Yeah, completely understandable! Let’s keep our hopes up for the summer...
Scott
Really enjoy your great honest reviews. Which (MT07 or MT09) has better ergonomics, epecially leg room, for a pillion? Based on photos it appears MT07 has better leg room for a passenger... I am considering a 2021 MT 07 or MT09. Any experience with this... What is your opinion on ergonomics for both rider & pillion?
Thank you David,
Sorry, I've no experience with 2up on these two bikes. But the 09 is higher and a little bit bigger and usually, key word there is "usually", that means more room/better for the pillion passenger. The 09 fits me better than the 07, more leg room, and just a little more up-right riding position.
take care,
Scott
HI Enjoy your reviews. Really like the cut of your motorcycle jeans what brand & model are they?
I gave this bike some serious consideration before changing my BMW R1200R, and came down in the side of the KTM 790 Duke.
I did EXACTLY the same, 9 months ago. No regrets at all. Hope you're enjoying your 790 duke. 👍
The trident is going to take a lot of MT07 customers.
Are there absolutely no internal changes to its terrible front fork? As far as torque and power, the peak numbers have gone down, but are there any improvments in other parts of the rev range?
Rear shock has rebound adjustment now.
I'm impressed the front has dual discs at this range/size.
Ikr, I was shocked too years ago, it's had dual front disc since they started making it
hello, i'm from portugal, i have the same mt 07, same color, but model;2020, and in my opinion,..nobody will change their older 07 for this newer one, which in my opinion is the best thing for me I think, to be better,.. is the design of the tank, air intakes,.. and its handlebars,.., I wouldn't mind having it on my 07, this handlebar, a little wider, and closer to the pilot, ..I think it makes a good difference ,.. otherwise ,.. I even prefer my model,.. and it even has a little more power ,..freer , which in my case is even more , because I put full escape ( exhaust sistem ),.. and it got even better ,.., but it's still a mt 07 ,.. very fun !!
I'm looking at the new mod Tracer 7, bit more practicality.
I love watching your videos is the Mt 07 powerful enough to ride a passenger in the mountains
Thank you! Sure no problem with power there.
Ride safe,
Scott
thats why I chose mt07 over 660
Yesterday i finally bought one :3
Next spring its this one or z 650. leaning towards this one depending on the new features for 2022 model. Tft dash and bigger tank on the kawasaki really makes this a battle for me. Was pretty sure i would get the Mt07 before but still cant deside.
What did you go for?
Hi Scott, useful review thanks. Do you think you'll be getting to ride the 2021 Moto Guzzi 850cc V7 this springtime. Here's hoping you do.
Yes, soon I hope :)
@Back2Bay6 I'm looking at a V7 as a 2nd bike for town/short rides. Looks funky and different. Can get a 2016 2ith 3000 miles for £5K. Plus no chain maintenance. Nearest Guzzi dealer 200 miles away though :( Glad you are enjoying V7.
Hi Scott, quick question from a Chinese motor newbie here (just got my licence 3 months ago, and now riding Yamaha NMAX 155 for daily commute). Which one do you recommend for a green hand, 2021 SV 650 (Euro 11915) or 2021 MT-07 (Euro 15248)? Or even Ninja 400 (Euro 7055)? as the first motorbike to ride. Million thanks here. BTW, really love your way to test bikes, and 'teaching wife ride' series.
Thank you 😁
I personally would take the SV650 cause it has so much character and is so playful, the others are a bit lighter but here is a big BUT, I would never get bored with the SV & the looks are classic . So, thinking long term, the SV would be a better choice. And if you ever wanted to do "track days" the SV is the best choice because the mods available for the SV are just endless.
Bottom line, let your heart pick the bike and consider the dealer that you are buying from too.
Good luck,
Scott
That was a helpful video - thanks
Great review!!
When can we expect a Triumph Trident review?
This coming Saturday :)
@@NothingToProve Yes I would like that too. I am very interested in the comparison between these two
Saw ur videos on SV650 and u looked like u had a blast with it. Safe to say u prefer it over the MT07?
Yes, I see you picked up on that. The SV is so much more "playful" and has "soul". The MT07 is so refined that the playfulness and soul are missing. Don't get me wrong the MT is very good, almost too good, "for it's own good". LOL!
So if you want a technically perfect bike, then the MT07 is the bike. But if you want a bike that will always make you grin from ear to ear, every time all the time, then the SV is the bike that gets more smiles per mile. :)
@@NothingToProve Thanks! I ride the MT03 for the last 6 mnths and already thinking of upgrading. I think its a great 1st bike and I'll prbly keep it for a little while but eventually I'll switch. That SV650 looks like the perfect all around bike. Keep up the good work!
When can we expect a review Aprilia Tuono 660? I am very anxious to compare comfort and fun compared to the RS 660. And this is very important especially at the (similar) age we are in. Thank you for such cool presentations.
Thank you and you're welcome. Well, I will go next week to see if the new Tuono is in yet, it was supposed to be in last month (March) but delayed cause of Covid19...etc. So I hope soon, just doing the bikes I can with all these delays and delays...sucks.
I like the new headlight. When I look at the front of the bike it makes me sort of curious. Wouldn't say that the one on e.g. Trident is ugly but is bland, I look at it and don't care, just another copy of street twin or xsr. I didn't particularly like KTM headlight and the whole front, but when I saw 890 up close...wooow, it looks very cool. Much better in real life than on screen. Value wise, Yamaha is much better, if someone has a tight budget. They offered one of my colleagues a very decent discount + heated grips, crash bars, and some other minor accessories. Triumph gave him nothing. With quick shifter, h. grips and crash bars you easily crossing 8.3k euro mark.
@11:49 There is no aftermarket LED for last year's model available that is legal in all EU countries and those aftermarket solutions are at least as expensive as the entire upgrade. :)
Like the new music!
Just sold my heritage, want a small bike to ride for fun around the mountains and longer rides. Don't know if I should go with the mt07 or the trident
Trident all the way
Ktm 790 duke
@@rossm9676 not a fan of the ktm
That new design looks better on the MT 07 than on the MT09.
hey guys! will you choose mt07 over cb650r?
I love this bike and I want to try it out. but I keep hearing the suspension is not great, Especially for bigger riders, I’m 6’5 225lbs. Your thoughts?
Yea, this was kind of small for me and I'm 5'10" 185, so you might want to step up in size, like the MT09, Z900, something in that range might fit you better.
Ride safe,
Scott
Incremental changes are fine. They still hasnt addressed the suspension which was always its greatest flaw. I think the trident will rob the MT07 of many sales but maybe this category will just get larger.
Yea, especially in light of the CB650R got an update to Showa SFF-BP! SFF = Separate Fork Function and the new part is BP = the Big Piston! So Triumph and Honda are leaving the MT07 behind there.
What backpack is that ? Looks snazzy
On your performance chart why does the new MT-09 come after last year’s model ?
Because number 2 always comes after number 1. Right?
Or am I not understanding your question?
Have the 2020 mt09 love it
Between this one and the Kawasaki Z650 which one would you personally choose if you had to buy one yourself?
I wouldn't 😁 I would buy the SV650 👍😁
I'm really waiting for you to compare it with trident
I did it already, a day or two after I rode this, I wanted to ride them both as close together as possible. I just haven't released the video for the Trident as of yet. Saturday :)
Yamaha has lots of loyal customers and don’t ask why
Very good summary and just wondering if your best friend "wife" ever picked out a new ride? Have a great week ahead, Thanks!
Thank you! No not yet, she is happy riding the Honda Monkey for right now. Maybe next year.
@@NothingToProve My wife is the same, she loves the Monkeys.
Did you say somewhere Trident vid will be today? Or my memory failed me :)
Yes, it's up now :)
The only bike in the MT-line that doesn't have usd forks, but it is the best.... Kind of a head scratcher
Hmm....interesting indeed! Highest in sales, not necessarily the best. It's more hitting the sweet spot being in the middleweight naked budget group. Most can't buy MT09/10, too much money and the MT03 is too little so the 07 is in the sweet spot!
Tracer 7 isn't USD either
I wonder if Suzuki is finally giving the SV a decent update? Yamaha will continue to sell these at large numbers, I think the value is still there just not as much as previous years.
The new GSX-S1000 is coming, hopefully GSX-S750 and SV650 next
There's speculation that suzuki might do away with the v-twin engine, in the 650cc class, and move to a parallel twin engine configuration like this MT 07. It's just simply easy and cheaper for suzuki, to manufacture parallel twin engines, over v-twins. So if that happens, it won't be a SV650 any more, but a new model of bike in the 650cc class.
@@kimw200blaze4 We'll see how it sounds, I'm sure it'll be reliable. Is it to be better in the super twin category? Beyond that it just needs to update the looks and keep on the value price side. Excited to see some new stuff from Suzuki and I hope they can follow their GP win with some great bikes.
Two thumbs up. Thanks
Two thumbs way up👍👍😀
i Pre orderd one yesterday in norway. My first big bike. last i had was a 50cc bike for the am 146licens
A question. Why not buy a used bike for the same price and get waaaaayyyyy more for your money?
Will gett a 5 year warrenty
And it is not as many bikes to chose between in norway. Espscial for a2 bikes
@@Xtize. hmm ok i see your point
did Yamaha update the front suspension at all?
nope, it's the same :(
How about the new Aprilia Tuono 660?
I hope this month...if the bike comes in...I'll be on it!
@@NothingToProve Cool. Shall look forward to watching your review and thoughts. ATB.
Dang they couldn't add spools to this update and no more rear wave brake rotor.
Will you be reviewing the 2021 cb650r or cbr650r with the updates?
What are the updates besides euro5 compliance? I was not aware of any others?
@@NothingToProve updated the suspension again. Updated to the lcd display. Slight weight savings. And the power went up about 1.3 hp and 1ft lb of torque “on a dyno”. Not huge update but seems interesting enough to compare. The biggest change is the forks
Well, it just came out in 2019 and now in 2021 it's a "light refresh" because of Euro5.
I think since they had to update the motor to Euro5, they "refreshed" a few things. Two things went in the wrong direction, toque down and weight up (according to Honda). Torque got less and higher in the RPM range, was 47.2@8,500 now 46.46@9,500, not good there. And the weight increased by 2 pounds, which is common for Euro5 compliance (same +2 lbs as the MT07). But hp seems to be the same. The LCD is now color but still the same LCD that is difficult to see in the sun...at least I'm assuming from the pictures from Honda. Suspension was Showa SFF, now it's Showa SFF BP, so they just added the "big Piston" which is nice and I would only notice that difference on a track day, I would not notice "BP" on the street doing legal speeds.
I don't know...hmm...I'll take a look at it when I see it in person and then decide from there, the deciding factor is if I think I can get enough clicks to justify taking the 25+ hours to make a video. Since I just did the launch of it in 2019.
Ride safe,
Scott
@@NothingToProve I can see the miss conception on the weight on my end. They were claiming weight savings from the forks. The lcd has a brighter background light and the font was increased to help visibility. I actually did see this on a side by side with my 2019. As far as the power numbers I got those from motorcyclist magazines Chanel. They dyno tested the 2019 and the 2021 and the the 2021. and after watching it again the claimed numbers were +1.5hp and +2ft lb over the 2019 to the wheel. I’ve seen there were supposed to be some changes to the internationals on the motor. For euro 5 yes but supposed It helped smooth out the power dip between 5-6k rpm. Either way I appreciate your time and response man 👍 ride safe
it's 7,020 € in Romania, and if you negotiate, you might get it down 250 more
Yea, it really is a good bike for a great price. :)
Can't get over that headlight, just looks goofy.
Good beginner bike ?
sure 👍
I dont know I think I would rather get a SV650 or a Trident now.
Agreed!
Still not available even for pre order here in JAPAN!!!!
So I guess I’m not getting it.
Good get a real bike
Weird, there are a few in stock here in Croatia and just order mine in full black
@@bubonicrider8021 yamaha doesn't love bringing euro designed bikes to japan.
Never did (probably wont) get the tracer 700. So I don't buy yamahas.... sad times
@@KairyuRider Damn man that sucks.
I like how you say Yamahaw
Wait, is this exhaust stock original? 🤔
Yep.
@@NothingToProve Omg 🤔 is it upgraded or something? because i want to do a driving school and buy this bike, and i watch x videos and in every video it have eh meh sound but this? 😦🤤 (sorry for my english)
The other videos probably don't have good mics that can handle the sound. :) Just go up to your local dealer and ask them to start on up for you.
@@NothingToProve Thanks for help 🙏 i rly want buy this sweet..
Wow only know I realize that they added a second catalytic converter just below the radiator and covered it with an aluminum heat shield. Looks a bit ugly from the front But the ugliest thing is that headlight, the old one is 10x better.
Second hand Duke 690 R.....or even left over stock
EXCELENTE MOTO AQUI NO BRASIL
That is funny you talked to your wife and said "man this bike is like Yamaha did not do much"
SV650 or this bike? Which one would you choose?
SV650!
@@NothingToProve Thanks for the reply!
Wonder if the chassis still goes rusty after a week, like mine did way back when they first came out. Nice engine, shame about the rest of the bike though. Ever since it was launched people have complained about the cheap suspension and what do they do as an update? An ugly headlight and new handle bars. Come on Yamaha. Sort it out. (Nothing personal to you Mr reviewer, just a bit disappointed at the bike).
Yea, I was a little disappointed too, if they had updated the suspension, then it would be a great bike but for now Yamaha did just enough to stay ahead in sales...no more no less...sad.
@@NothingToProve Thing is. They are no longer ahead. If I was going to buy a new middleweight naked bike then I would probably have the Triumph as it's actually new, not just re hash of an old model.
Of course, if I could afford it I'd have the Aprilia but that's a whole new ball game.
On the other hand, what do I know? I own an MV Agusta Brutale 660 so I clearly have no idea what I'm talking about ;-)
675...
I'll stick with my cb650r!
Yeah the headlight assembly looks like a codpiece
The rims really ruin this color scheme for me. anyone else feel the same?
I feel like they MAKE the color scheme. Without them, it's boring af, like the other colors for this year.
I love the wheel colour the others are dull and boring
The new MT-07 is uglier, has a weaker engine while the mt-09 has made it stronger, it also has telescopic forks when the mt-03 already has inverted forks. I have the impression that the MT-07 paid the price for all updates to the MT lineup.
the 400 € could be due to the inflation😅
Your not a brit?
Nope! 😁😊
@@NothingToProve lol man that's a pretty bike I want one!
Yeah that headlight is hideous. Looks like an alien eye or something... 😆
That headlight unit looks like a Chinese knock-off part ! ... suppose it matches the rest
of the acres of plastic these Yamaha's are covered in .
They clearly must appeal to a certain demographic , to me they just look cheap .
Yamaha really dropped the balls with the robot front ends. from mt 3, 7, 9 and 10. sucks ballz big time.
Are you native German? You sound American lol
Native Earthling LOL! Yea, American.
At your age ? You don’t look a day above 30!
Hay EURO you can bl-w me, all your compliance is doing is messing up our bikes. You want EURO5 keep it in Europe and leave the rest of us alone. The bikes are running so lean they are not going to last long as the bikes should and the price keeps going up.
Sorry but that front end, ewwww
Almost everything you say sounds like a question.
Yo , nothing to prove is why man .
Idk what is with Yamaha's fetish with insect looking bikes