2020 Yamaha MT-07 | A Good All Rounder & Beginner Bike

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  • Опубликовано: 28 авг 2020
  • This wraps-up the "Japanese 4" middleweight nakeds. How do the 4 bikes compare against each other? Honda CB650R, Yamaha MT07, Kawasaki Z650, Suzuki SV650.
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Комментарии • 189

  • @6Twisted
    @6Twisted 3 года назад +49

    The MT-07 is the budget king. They cut out the un-necessary stuff like electronics, top spec suspension and a decent paint job but as a result you get a great engine in a light, easy to work on bike for less than the cost of a new 125 second hand. The best part of the bike is the sound once you put an aftermarket exhaust on it though. I recently upgraded from an MT-07 to a Super Duke R and the Super Duke is not nearly worth triple the price. Not to mention my MT-07 has 21,000 miles on it and hasn't had a single fault whereas my Super Duke has left me stranded twice in 2000 miles, once because of a loose battery terminal and another time because the wireless key wouldn't register. My Super Duke also has numerous mechanical faults, firstly the loose battery terminals, then the wheel hub isn't machined properly, there's a recall for the brake material failing and a radiator leak and electrical faults are common.

    • @youtube-nutzer2895
      @youtube-nutzer2895 3 года назад +7

      The sv650 is the budget king imo.

    • @trailblazeratv6306
      @trailblazeratv6306 3 года назад

      6Twisted geez Louise, not good !!

    • @weemt07biker74
      @weemt07biker74 3 года назад

      Some of us have started using KTM as Keep Taking Money, the loose battery thing seems to go across the range, my wife currently Rides a Ktm but think she will be changing soon.

  • @allelopathetic
    @allelopathetic 3 года назад +9

    The phrase "master of none" I think really fits it. The sweet spot of this bike is normal people using it normally.
    But still got capacity to be a badass machine!

  • @CruStiii
    @CruStiii 3 года назад +5

    i got a mt07 for my first bike, now 3000km in and i love it.
    the engine is fun and forgiveable and even in my hands i can keep up with bigger bikes in the twisties.
    great commuter and u can buy a lot of cheap custom parts for it, love it

  • @zander8752
    @zander8752 3 года назад +28

    I think you mean "jack of all trades, master of fun"

    • @Word_Wise_Woman
      @Word_Wise_Woman 3 года назад +2

      I think I like the sound of that better, “Jack of all trades, Master of fun!”😎

  • @roberthoffman7972
    @roberthoffman7972 3 года назад

    I got my 2017 Fz07 a couple months ago lightly used (only 2400 miles) and it had aftermarket exhaust and blinkers already done for me and I absolutely love this bike. It's perfect for what I need or want. Super reliable, and fun fast acceleration.

  • @danielcortes6077
    @danielcortes6077 3 года назад +3

    Such a great review/ comparison video!! Too notch quality. Two thumps way up for this vid 👍👍

  • @tenshi53
    @tenshi53 3 года назад +5

    Jack of all trades, master of torque!

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +2

      True, in this group of 4, it wins in the torque category. But they are all so close.

  • @slowsteve3497
    @slowsteve3497 3 года назад +1

    Thanks Scott. Love your channel, and your honest reviews. I'm thinking about my second bike, and there are too many good choices!!!

  • @suandis9292
    @suandis9292 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for always keepin it real~

  • @weemt07biker74
    @weemt07biker74 3 года назад +2

    Absolutely love my 2018 mt07, I'm a small guy, only 5'3" and it's just right, have put a few mods on, exhaust etc, only downside is still the swing arm corrosion, also the cooling pipes, have had mine powder coated, sorted.

  • @gm2256
    @gm2256 3 года назад +12

    Thanks for doing the middleweight naked series for us. Nice to see the same reviewers perspective on all 4 bikes.

  • @chriskaranikas9625
    @chriskaranikas9625 2 года назад

    Your reviews are top . Clear voice and comprehensive. Keep the good work. Congratz

  • @jaygolds46
    @jaygolds46 3 года назад +4

    Picked it up three months ago as my beginner ride, 3500 miles later, I only regret my purchase when I ride with bigger bikes in a straight line, but melt them away in the turns

  • @spetersonmusic
    @spetersonmusic 3 года назад +3

    Love it - I almost bought that bike back a few years ago. Killer use of the 360 camera too. Well done!

    • @Fee.1
      @Fee.1 3 года назад

      360? Where ?

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад

      Thanks Scott.
      Just looking for as many ways possible to use it, sometimes it works and some...well not so good and those shots don't make it into the video :)
      So far I've bought 3 360° cameras (2 gopro Max and 1 Insta 360 one X) and broke two of them :( They don't seem to like being dropped on pavement at 60mph, don't understand why. LOL!
      This Christmas I will get an 8k 360° so the 360 shots will look better and not be so grainy.
      take care,
      Scott

  • @husnushepherd
    @husnushepherd 3 года назад +13

    "beginner bike" is a really weird phrase. It differs from country to country. Where I am, everyone recommends 125 or 250cc's to beginners.

    • @plampard7813
      @plampard7813 3 года назад

      I noticed that too! Where are you from if you don't mind me asking? And do you take driving lessons on the small bikes as well?
      I'm from the Netherlands and pretty much everybody starts on a 600cc while some (and I really do mean some) take a 300cc as a starter bike.

  • @114jt
    @114jt 3 года назад +2

    Two thumbs way way up for the video!

  • @Nummi31
    @Nummi31 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this video :) It really helped me.

  • @joeyp4196
    @joeyp4196 3 года назад +2

    Excellent review! Great points. I wish my wife would want to learn to ride.

  • @rauls4921
    @rauls4921 3 года назад

    I bought a 2017 FZ-07, beginner rider, put 8k miles on it over the course of a year. Great bike, I commute, ride out to the Twisties and ride to Los Angeles. With the exception of a track experience, this bike holds it's own very well. Put an aftermarket wind screen and it's quiet comfortable for semi long distance. I wouldn't do an all day haul on the bike but she has more than enough power to keep for a while and not enough power to get into anything to crazy. I'd like a better suspension and am looking to upgrade it soon.

  • @marshall3498
    @marshall3498 3 года назад +1

    Awesome first ride review as always. I rode a Yamaha fzo7 in 2017 I was very impressed with the motorcycle myself. Can you please review a 2020 Yamaha fjr1300. I have a 2016 Yamaha fjr1300es myself and I absolutely love it.

  • @rayb5394
    @rayb5394 3 года назад +2

    2021 Entry Level bikes with slipper clutch: CB500F, Trident 660, Z650, may be an option for new riders when downshifting etc?

  • @terryallen3550
    @terryallen3550 3 года назад

    Thanks Scott, you must be so excited for your wife to be riding with you soon "Any days a GOOD DAY when your on two wheels" now its going to be "AN AWESOME DAY" maybe teach her to brake and accelerate really well in a straight line. I taught these to my son and quickly he became an excellent rider. The low seat height will do good for her confidence too, Just some suggestions for yous. I pray yous safe travelling on them roads. :-)

  • @buddyrevell4329
    @buddyrevell4329 3 года назад

    The FZ-07/MT-07 is a very good bike for a first time rider. Most people will grow into it. I bought one for myself and then bought another one for my wife. If you like it , get a pipe and a tune! It changes the character of the bike (in a good way). The government restrictions regarding the way in which the bike is tuned is apparent when you are able to get it done. It's got plenty of low end torque (i.e. grunt), and is a blast to ride.

  • @jankosrdic2991
    @jankosrdic2991 3 года назад +1

    Hello, i would like to know how it is for 2 people on it for some touring?

  • @caltiki3090
    @caltiki3090 3 года назад +2

    NTP - too many nice bikes - you make life so confusing !!! As always Thnx !!

  • @bilalchaudhary8268
    @bilalchaudhary8268 3 года назад +1

    As always great review. I would add 2021 Triumph Triden to this list as well.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +1

      Yep, as soon as that hits the Dealer next year, I'll be on it!
      Thanks, Scott

  • @craigjohnson6597
    @craigjohnson6597 3 года назад +17

    Triumph trident coming out soon, another bike to throw into the mix ✌️

    • @filoIII
      @filoIII 3 года назад +1

      Junk

    • @simpshady9090
      @simpshady9090 2 года назад

      @@filoIII looks WAY better than all the other naked bikes.

    • @filoIII
      @filoIII 2 года назад

      @@simpshady9090 COOL! Doesn't mean it's not junk.

  • @sathishrao7926
    @sathishrao7926 3 года назад

    Black and blue ones are quite refreshing to me compared to that gaudy white/orange ones.
    You have covered Parallel twin, V Twin and Inline 4 variants.. Need to wait for a few months to cover the ‘Triple’ variant - No prize for guessing which one I’m referring to !

  • @coolasice1325
    @coolasice1325 3 года назад

    Is this suspension good now like on a bunch of vids they say it’s garbage an doesn’t last but is it fine now? Is it worth it to buy this bike????

  • @DrJSkellington
    @DrJSkellington 3 года назад

    Great video as always! In a couple of days I'll go try it as well (first bike). What gloves were you wearing in this video? I really like the short cuffs!

  • @hawkwood6405
    @hawkwood6405 3 года назад

    The MT07 would be an excellent candidate for lowering. Not only could you lower the rear with a set of lowering links or dogbones, the conventional front fork stanchons are easily slid up in the triple clamps to proportionally lower the front so you can maintain the steering geometry which will obviously be important for a novice rider. Most bikes with USD forks have a landing area where the upper fork tubes fit into the triple clamps limiting the ability to lower the front. Of the bikes on your list only the honda has USD forks and might have issues lowering the front.

  • @jman1957
    @jman1957 3 года назад

    Great Video 👍🏼👍🏼

  • @byahetyovlogs9362
    @byahetyovlogs9362 3 года назад

    Wow this bike 😍

  • @weemt07biker74
    @weemt07biker74 3 года назад

    Oh, on a side note, if your wife goes for the mt07, just a thing I have noticed as a short rider, the side stand is really short, you may not have noticed but when you put it down to get off the bike it can feel like it's leaning waaaay over.

  • @ilhamsabirin4673
    @ilhamsabirin4673 3 года назад

    Nice video... Let just say that in some areas the price of the latest version is few hundred more than the older version.. is it worth it to spend the extra dollar?

  • @peteralexander1155
    @peteralexander1155 3 года назад

    Scott Warner, the Bob Ross of the motoworld

  • @Everendlesss
    @Everendlesss 3 года назад +1

    If your wife is that small, definitely check out the Yamaha R3. I weight around 140 lbs and the R3 has been a great first motorcycle. I definitely will be upgrading within 2 years, but the R3 has been a great tool to learn.

    • @luiz576
      @luiz576 3 года назад

      Or MT03....

  • @sabbottart
    @sabbottart 3 года назад +1

    That is a strange ignition point. I think I’d prefer it on the side of the engine if they want to get quirky.

  • @stonehouseguitars3869
    @stonehouseguitars3869 3 года назад

    Idk why people say these are beginner bikes or starter bikes, they're fast as hell. I regularly outpace and leave in the dust my buddies that ride 1700cc Harleys. They're more than enough power and speed to get yourself into trouble. For a long time a 700 was considered a pretty powerful bike. 1000cc super bikes on the street are a modernity. This bike is more than enough to ride and enjoy for a long time.

  • @everywherelocal
    @everywherelocal 3 года назад

    nice clip 🤘

  • @Solemn-wishes
    @Solemn-wishes 3 года назад +1

    Loved your video, but I have to ask. I started riding on a 2019 Honda Rebel 500, do you think the MT-07 would be a decent step up or would you think something like an MT-09 would be a better jump?

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +2

      Thank you Samuel,
      I think you can step up to the 09 without problems. Both bikes are very easy to ride and the 09 will keep you interested longer and end up saving you money in the long run.
      Ride safe,
      Scott

  • @photographerjonathan
    @photographerjonathan 3 года назад

    Without a fairing how is the wind hitting your face ?

  • @battsonbikes1919
    @battsonbikes1919 3 года назад +1

    OMG, where did you find that sun tan, Looking good my man !

  • @anonymousili1708
    @anonymousili1708 3 года назад

    Are naked bikes affected by rain? I mean I know they are designed to ride in the rain but doesn't it affect it long term? I live in England and it rains a lot here.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад

      All bikes are the same as far as rain. No one bike is better than the other in this aspect. If you leave any bike out in the rain, over time, rust and corrosion will happen.
      Ride safe,
      Scott

  • @cmdrratzass7305
    @cmdrratzass7305 3 года назад +2

    Did they improve the throttle response or more specifically load change reaction?
    I’ve driven an older MT-07 in driving school and even in third gear this was really bad on this bike. In first and second gear it was downright horrible.

    • @lordgibbness
      @lordgibbness 3 года назад

      Yeh even a remap doesn't fix it. I have one, which I totally love btw. You basically have to clutch in slightly when on/off the throttle.... Or be very careful to apply from zero throttle very slowly.

    • @cmdrratzass7305
      @cmdrratzass7305 3 года назад +1

      Rob Thorpe Totally sums up my experience with that „toggle switch“ throttle. I went for the SV 650 after that. Much less off an issue there.

    • @DenisAleksandrovLV
      @DenisAleksandrovLV 3 года назад +2

      It's not the bike, it's your throttle control skill. For those who can't do it right, MT-07 throttle response could be too sharp. Go for Kawasaki.

    • @CoryRoy
      @CoryRoy 2 года назад

      I just rode a 2020 MT-07 and I would say the throttle was perfect. Very smooth and controllable, but also responsive. If you are smooth, it was smooth, if you were abrupt, so was it. I wouldn't call it forgiving, but I would call it perfect.

  • @arjorn9121
    @arjorn9121 3 года назад +1

    So between this bike and the SV650 which bike would you choose?
    I am tending towards the the SV simply because I don't like the looks of the MT-07.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +2

      SV650 take it for me. The motor, looks and handling are better, imho.

    • @CruStiii
      @CruStiii 3 года назад

      i got the mt07 for my first bike, got it for the looks, the torque i can grow in to and the custom parts

    • @arjorn9121
      @arjorn9121 3 года назад

      @@NothingToProve Thanks for the reply I guess only a test ride will help me with that decision in the end.

  • @andrewgalloway8012
    @andrewgalloway8012 3 года назад

    My first and current bike is a 2015 Yamaha R3. I'm 6-foot and 160-pounds. I know it's a relatively small bike, but it doesn't bother me much, not that I have anything else to compare it to. With all that said, do you think I would still feel cramped on an MT-07? It's at the top of my list for an upgrade bike.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +1

      You are probably right at that point to where I'd say go and sit on one and see for yourself if it fits you. It really depends on how long your legs are for your height. If your legs are a little short for your height then it should be fine but if your legs are a little longer...then it might not.
      Good luck :)
      Scott

  • @cellarvennis5655
    @cellarvennis5655 3 года назад

    Hi! Great video, how did you attache the camera to you in those scenes where the viewer watches you ride like from right side behind you? Is it mounted to sour backpack somehow and the mountaing is edited out..? I wanna try that way of filming too, but dont know just yet how. Thanks in advance

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +1

      Thank you. Yea, the gopro Max is attached to the end of a selfie stick and the other end to the back of the OGIO Mach5 backpack. It's a 360° camera, so the selfie stick gets edited out when the two lenses are stitched together in post.
      Ride safe,
      Scott

  • @dennism1919
    @dennism1919 3 года назад

    Hey Scott! I did like this series of videos that make up the middleweight comparo. That in itself is interesting because nowadays people seem to consider middleweights bikes of between 700 - 900 CC. So does that make these lightweights? One thing I want to mention is that I like that you are doing the ride-by's again. The 360 camera doesn't do a very good job of showing the ergo setup and rider seating position. It presents off-angle so you can't really get a good idea. The ride-by's solve that problem. Man, these things look small! So definitely not a bike type I could ever consider. But your target audience isn't really a big ogre like me, is it? HA! I will watch them again and see which one I would pick, if I could ride a bike like this. On first glance I kinda like the MT-07. Stay tuned! And as others have stated, the Trident is coming. That one might be worth waiting for.
    SO, which one to pick? I was all set to select the MT-07 as number one; then I went back and looked at the Honda again and completely changed my mind! LOL! I think the Honda wins overall, although there are a couple of things I don't like about it, mainly that screen. So... of the four, my picks would be Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki. I hate putting the Z650 last, but the engine just kills it for me. So that is my pick! What be yours, Sir? Inquiring minds want to know!

    • @ntdscherer
      @ntdscherer 3 года назад

      Problem is if you call these lightweights, what do you call the 250-400cc bikes? Three classes just aren't enough, because there are the 300-ish, the 650-ish, the 900-ish, and the 1100-ish bikes.

  • @timsmotorcyclediary
    @timsmotorcyclediary 3 года назад +2

    The MT-07 is suitable for short people. As long as you have at least a 30-inch inseam, you''ll be able to place both feet on the ground.

    • @surferdude642
      @surferdude642 3 года назад

      I weigh 140 lbs and have a 28" inseam and it's fine even with a thicker seat. Yes I'm on the balls of my feet, but at a stop it's left foot down and right foot on the rear brake.

  • @jeffturner6698
    @jeffturner6698 3 года назад

    Great review. Very relevant and useful. THANK YOU! 🏍👍🏻😎

  • @victoryart19
    @victoryart19 3 года назад +1

    Which one did u like more mt07 or cb650? Thanks

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +2

      SV650, Z650, MT07, CB650. In that order. :)

  • @windtherapy99
    @windtherapy99 3 года назад

    Something to keep in mind is insurance. I wanted an mt-07 but insurance was 130+. Month. I got a 1700 Vmax for 51 a month. That difference alone is the cost in monthly payment on the loan.

  • @seanb5888
    @seanb5888 3 года назад

    The issue with the Honda is that it is quite a bit more money than the Yamaha or Suzuki. Here in Canada the MSRP for the MT09 is about $500 more than the Honda and that is a small difference for a step up in performance class.

  • @knacky1000
    @knacky1000 3 года назад

    Rein vom Motor her... Welcher gefällt dir besser? Der SV650er oder der MT07 Motor?

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +1

      SV is much smoother and the power delivery is more linear and controllable, and the sound is the best of the Japanese 4 imho. The motor is also why the SV is the number 1 choice for track day beginners. If you do a track day, you'll see in the beginner/intermediate group a lot of SV650 but very little MT07's. That in and of itself speaks volumes about the difference between the two bikes.

  • @AF-O6
    @AF-O6 3 года назад

    I’d be very interested in your opinion of this vs a Svartpilen 701 for someone downsizing from a 1200GS ADV looking for sporty ride. They are closely priced in my area.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +1

      I did a review of one a while back:
      ruclips.net/video/1jwT1IQKGgo/видео.html
      Enjoy 😁

  • @_Makanko_
    @_Makanko_ 3 года назад +2

    Very nice bike. I think for myself I like the fun of the high-revving screaming Honda. You pay the price but ah well.
    Cheers

  • @simonthomas5367
    @simonthomas5367 3 года назад +1

    It's not about configuaration or cash! The CP2 engine and lightweight package alone knocks the competition on it's butt!

  • @antonthemanton3065
    @antonthemanton3065 3 года назад +10

    Bought the MT-07 for my first bike and been loving it for the last few months. Only thing thou its a bit torque-y? As a new rider almost got myself in trouble with it :D

    • @KROWARIZONA
      @KROWARIZONA 3 года назад +1

      Take care bro

    • @mackan98502
      @mackan98502 3 года назад +1

      i got a new z650 because i sat better on it, regret not geting a mt 07, i want more torque.

    • @KROWARIZONA
      @KROWARIZONA 3 года назад

      TheDamnSwede I want mt07 too man. And look... I had a z900 and I didn’t like the bike hahaha

    • @mackan98502
      @mackan98502 3 года назад

      @Redrum dang. Sounds better tho. But it does have more power. Felt faster than my sv600 bandit 1997 i had and my z650 feels much slower.

    • @surferdude642
      @surferdude642 3 года назад +1

      @@KROWARIZONA Why didn't you like the z900? I've been looking at a 2020 version and keeping my 2016 fz07.

  • @paullee6663
    @paullee6663 3 года назад

    Great review as always! Two thumbs up! 'OK guys, lets see if we can think of the most ridiculous place to put the ignition switch' I think Triumph already won that competion? No, wait, I can think of somewhere even more stupid! TFT sceens have a lot to answer for. I much prefer separate analogue speedo and tacho's. Out of the four my choice would be between the Suzuki or the Honda. In that order.

  • @CeeRTee
    @CeeRTee 3 года назад +3

    Great review and nice bike. I had one of these myself for a couple of years and for the most part found it very enjoyable. I was a little too large for it and had comfort issues and when two up the rear end would bottom out from time to time not really the fault of the bike. When i sold mine some corrosion had started to set in which was a little disappointing after 6k dry miles but at £5k the bikes a little gem.... extremely easy to wheelie but i swear i never did those haha.

    • @rockybalboa8781
      @rockybalboa8781 3 года назад

      Where on the bike was corrosion starting to creep in

  • @RutgerMulder
    @RutgerMulder 3 года назад +2

    Gonna be interesting to see if Triumph can shake things up a little in this class with the new Trident model.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +1

      Yea, it would be nice to see some European OEM representation in this group. A budget BMW....hmmm...now that would be funny. LOL!

    • @paullee6663
      @paullee6663 3 года назад

      I just can't see it appearing at this price point...I hope I'm wrong.

    • @DenisAleksandrovLV
      @DenisAleksandrovLV 3 года назад

      It's about the price, not about the engine displacement. Honda is already 1000+ euro ahead of other 650 cc bikes, and Triumph will go over 9000 euro for sure.

    • @RutgerMulder
      @RutgerMulder 3 года назад +2

      Triumph mentions the MT-07 as it's competitor and that it will be priced very competitively. So they will target the same price bracket and i think Triumph will price it very aggressively to get a piece of the pie in this market segment. You need to sell a lot of bikes to get economies of scale for it to be profitable. Plus Triumph needs a cheaper bike to get new riders into their brand. They will use a cheaper steel frame, brakes, suspension and the old 675cc powerplant which won't cost them too much R&D money to re-use and de-tune. And with the production in Thailand i don't see why they couldn't match the Japanese on price.
      Anyway it's going to be a great time to shop for a new bike next year with all the manufacturers refreshing their bikes for euro 5 and the new models being launched.

    • @owenmurphy9826
      @owenmurphy9826 3 года назад

      @@NothingToProve Try a used BMW F800r from 2015 onwards. Weight 199kg. seat height 800mm.

  • @quanwick4516
    @quanwick4516 3 года назад

    MT07 is in need of an update so badly

  • @CaptainBroadSword
    @CaptainBroadSword 3 года назад

    You know, I'm a bit confused which one to buy between the MT-07 or the BMW F900r as they have almost the same type of throaty rumbly sound. But I'm a bit more towards the BMW. But your review in F900XR is also throwing me off a bit!! So wanted your opinion/advice on it, I'm 5'8" btw. So I can't make my mind between F900r, F900XR, MT-07 or MT-09!! Would really appreciate your reply in it!!!
    P.S. I'm looking for city riding mainly!!

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад

      For city, the smallest, lightest and most nimble is the 07 of the 4 bikes you list, so just pure city riding that wins. But if you want a little more power, then the 09, but if quality and connectivity is what you want also then the 900R.
      Good luck 😁👍

  • @toofastnobrakes
    @toofastnobrakes 3 года назад

    Is the suspension really as bad as they say? “In a corner”. And would it be good for a big rider? I’m 6’4” 225lbs

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +1

      Well, I'm 5'10" 185 and after two hours on this I was feeling kind of cramped, I don't think you'd do much better.
      But as long as you ride this bike like a "normal" every day person, then no the suspension is not bad. But as soon as you push this bike then you'll feel it but most guys won't push it to the limit...so that is why Yamaha made it this way.

    • @toofastnobrakes
      @toofastnobrakes 3 года назад

      @@NothingToProve much appreciated 👍 I’ve been told for the 2021 they raised and widened the bars to make it more accommodating for taller riders, but I don’t know if that will help much with the leg situation. If only I could find a dealer that would let me test ride one

  • @ktkace
    @ktkace 3 года назад

    Imho the gas tank leg comfort is way better on the Gen 1. Gen 2 has too many pressure points if you try to wedge your lower body ESP the knee area to it. Same problem as the msx Gen 2 , form before function. z650 comfort is way better imho. I'm 5 foot 8 btw.

  • @jeman022004
    @jeman022004 3 года назад

    I started off with one. Not a comfortable bike for taller riders. At 6’2” the angle of knees to feet/pegs was a little rough. I tolerated it but the Duke 790 is much better. It is always hard to tell just going off specs.

  • @ezsteel78
    @ezsteel78 3 года назад +2

    If this is a "beginner" bike I wonder what are the MT-03 and MT-125...

    • @jakesdabest127
      @jakesdabest127 3 года назад

      eu requires a1 and a2 licenses. that is the purpose of those bikes

    • @ntdscherer
      @ntdscherer 3 года назад

      @@jakesdabest127 Not entirely since the MT-03 is sold in the US, land of unrestricted licenses. 125s are pretty scarce though, I can think of two.

    • @ezsteel78
      @ezsteel78 3 года назад

      @@jakesdabest127 Not really. EU only has A1 and A2 since 2017, and 125/300cc bikes have been around since forever.

  • @shadowbroker1
    @shadowbroker1 3 года назад

    My friend has the Kawi and prefer my mt07 by miles but got the kawi as it was cheaper. Also don't forget the crossplane sounds like a twin, the I line traditional crank sound bland. All bikes are great though still yes

  • @--JohnDoe
    @--JohnDoe 3 года назад

    That seat is soo squeaky. That's why I went with the 2020 sv650, and I prefer sv650 blue over mt07 orange/red. No blue mt07's in the states, only black or orange.

  • @kibavlood5826
    @kibavlood5826 3 года назад

    Bruh i am really concerned about the rust problems i heard its an annoying problem in this bike.

  • @leewatkeys9065
    @leewatkeys9065 3 года назад

    Nice review but rear has rebound adjustment too👍🏻

  • @SpringfieldFatts
    @SpringfieldFatts 3 года назад +1

    Hey man, love the channel. Appreciate the more laid-back tone of your reviews. I'm looking at an MT-07 for a commuter with some fun characteristics, coming from a previous-gen Street Triple R. Do you think I would be disappointed by this too quickly?

    • @leewatkeys9065
      @leewatkeys9065 3 года назад

      Came from a 675 striple r to MT07 and not disappointed 😀👍🏻

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад

      Yes, you will notice the performance difference right away but if you're looking for a great every day commuter with a little bit of fun, this fits the bill.

  • @michaelornelas9396
    @michaelornelas9396 3 года назад

    Please let us know which bike she chooses. God bless.

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад

      Will do. We'll probably make a video with her in it, riding and doing a lot of talking...etc. 😁👍

  • @alexcb500x.cro-rider
    @alexcb500x.cro-rider 3 года назад +1

    Hi. Can you review yamaha mt 03 2020?

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +1

      I was going to do it this year but then covid19 happened and messed everything up. Hope to do it next year. Sorry.
      Ride safe,
      Scott

  • @TRUTHandANSWERS
    @TRUTHandANSWERS 3 года назад

    Was this the overall winner?

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад

      Na, they are all winners, just depends on what you want :)

  • @Bryan.Austria
    @Bryan.Austria 5 месяцев назад

    Does it have abs

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  5 месяцев назад

      Yes, in the EU it's been a law since 2016. Just depends on where you live.

  • @stephenchapman8344
    @stephenchapman8344 3 года назад

    👍

  • @soulshinobi
    @soulshinobi 3 года назад

    A German bike Channel? Why am I not subscribed??

  • @SGEBrueller
    @SGEBrueller 3 года назад

    Did my license on this bike and i have to say, in comparison to my 4 zylinder honda it is just not smooth enough for me.
    I had to shift down 1 or maybe even 2 gears more on the mt07, and it was kinda annoying.
    To be forced to shift down to 3rd gear when going 50ish does not fit my style of riding.

    • @DenisAleksandrovLV
      @DenisAleksandrovLV 3 года назад +1

      If you don't know how to ride this bike, better go ride the bus - it'll be much safer and easier for you. For other riders 50 km/h on 3rd gear is ok. And if you think that 50 km/h is the best speed for 5th or even 6th gear, your "4 zylinder honda" must have been 125 cc.

    • @farmoboy83
      @farmoboy83 3 года назад +1

      @@DenisAleksandrovLV also dont understand his complaints...this bikes can easily do topgear after 40mph and overteak effortless without downshifting. At least my sv650 allows that. Its not as relaxed as my bandit 1200 was but compared to a 600 4 cylinder is a lot easier to ride with less gearbox use

  • @slimrippers
    @slimrippers 3 года назад

    👍💯

  • @1996axon
    @1996axon 3 года назад +3

    This model is my favorite. I will buy one in 2021 (i think a bit expensive)

    • @johng5945
      @johng5945 3 года назад

      your an idiot. This bike is cheap

  • @simonlutt9849
    @simonlutt9849 3 года назад +2

    Well if it was my personal choice I would pick the Suzuki, but you are looking for a bike that might fit your wife.
    In that way I would pick the Kawasaki, because....
    -You outruled the Honda for its weight.
    -The Suzuki is maybe the most complete bike
    -The Yamaha is maybe the sportsbike in this class and a little too high.
    -The Kawasaki is maybe the bike to ride with the most ease, the lowest weight, but still handles very well.
    Don't you agree, Scott?
    Ride safe and keep healthy!

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад +1

      Yea, I'm leaning that way too, it's between the SV & Z but let's see what the new Triumph Trident will bering for us next year 😁
      ride safe,
      Scott

    • @bruceleong9534
      @bruceleong9534 3 года назад +1

      Simon Lütt , I would have thought 182kg is lower than 187kg.

    • @simonlutt9849
      @simonlutt9849 3 года назад

      @@bruceleong9534 True, maybe I confused the numbers...

  • @zweifive376
    @zweifive376 3 года назад +2

    SV650 all day long!

    • @DenisAleksandrovLV
      @DenisAleksandrovLV 3 года назад

      And all night long it's Kawa and Honda with their LED lights :)

    • @zweifive376
      @zweifive376 3 года назад

      ​@@DenisAleksandrovLV The headlight on the SV is fine and its just a better bike than the Kawa. Ok the Honda is in my opinion a better bike than the SV but its 20% more expensive ;)

    • @DenisAleksandrovLV
      @DenisAleksandrovLV 3 года назад

      @@zweifive376, don't think so, just look at the technology used in both bikes. And halogen lights can't be better than LEDs, in both illumination and energy consumption.

  • @G3A3
    @G3A3 3 года назад +2

    yeah i like the mt or z650 ah decisions decisions 😊

    • @Tousain
      @Tousain 3 года назад +1

      Mt-07, After watching countless of video's I've come to the conclusion that most people that have reviewed the two like the mt-07 better, because of the fun factor. I also don't like the z650's looks myself.

    • @DenisAleksandrovLV
      @DenisAleksandrovLV 3 года назад +4

      @@Tousain, MT-07 is all about the engine. Maybe the seat and riding position, as it seems slightly higher. And Kawasaki has everything except the engine - LED lights, slipper clutch, smooth gearbox and throttle responce... As for me, Kawa is better bike overall, and Yamaha is for those cafe-racer type riders.

    • @binaryblog
      @binaryblog 3 года назад +1

      I'm in the same situation and I think I'll go for z650 because its a more modern bike and a little bit safer. It's also not that common here in Sweden. I don't care right now if the engine is better in mt07 because probably I'll not notice it as a noob who bought a first bike. My goal is to buy my dream MC, mv agusta brutale 800 after 2 years on 600cc.

    • @SkeletorNot
      @SkeletorNot 3 года назад +4

      I've ridden both the Z650 and the MT-07. To be completely honest, the z650 does feel a little better; the power delivery is smoother and it actually corners better (better suspension). Brakes are a little more grippy as well. Ultimately I went with the MT-07, purely because of the CP2 engine. The sound (grunt) is sublime with an aftermarket exhaust system. Both are great bikes though, you wouldn't go wrong with either one of them.

  • @Brielle.vanwey
    @Brielle.vanwey 3 года назад

    Why does everybody refer to these bikes as a beginner bike?

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад

      "everybody" is not calling this bike a beginner, we are saying that it's a good bike, so good that an entry level or beginner can ride it too. Meaning that it won't put you in the hospital or kill you if you do something stupid on it. 👍😁

  • @slowsteve3497
    @slowsteve3497 3 года назад

    I thought in Europe you need to start on a 125? Is your wife able to start on such a powerful bike? It seems that at 50 kg that bike is going to be a rocket for her

    • @CruStiii
      @CruStiii 3 года назад

      not if she is over 24 years old then u can get the full licence
      and the mt is a handfull i give u that, got it for my first bike thid year, but its forgiveable if u make a mistake

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад

      Power is phycological thing, if you are mature and under control it should be no problem and she is over 40 so power at this age is less of a concern than say size and weight of the bike. And she is currently on the Honda Monkey, learning the basics and a small light weight bike highlights your weakness in any of the skills areas. So by next year she can handle a bike with 80% more weight/size than the Monkey.

    • @slowsteve3497
      @slowsteve3497 3 года назад

      Thanks. I am just learning. I"m 51. Been riding 6 months on a Honda CRF 250L. Everyone here has scared me into staying under 500cc for a year first. I didn't realize your wife was learning on a 125cc. That makes sense. I've been looking at the XSR700 for next bike, or maybe a Ducati Scrambler. Thanks for all the awesome vids. Greetings from the US. We aren't all crazy here :)

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад

      Well, I'm from Michigan, spent the first 42 years of my life there 😁 So I guess I'm a little crazy! 🤣
      But you bring up a good point, most people over here in Germany look at me and ask what is wrong with "you people" and I say hmm...I don't know.
      Yea, 6 months on a 250, then you can move up to just about any middleweight bike and be just fine.
      Ride safe,
      Scott

    • @DenisAleksandrovLV
      @DenisAleksandrovLV 3 года назад +1

      Even in European Union there are differences between the countries. Here in Baltic states you can go up to 35 kW once you are 18 years old, and in age of 24 you can get non-limited licence.
      It's all about experience. If you were riding on full sized bikes, you can ride it no issue. But if you were riding on 125 cc bike and then try to ride this one, it will be hard before you get used to it. Totally different power and throttle response, more weight, and so on.

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.1 3 года назад

    If you had to prove something what would it be

  • @filoIII
    @filoIII 3 года назад

    Lowered Versys 650 4tW!

  • @TopshelfJunior
    @TopshelfJunior 3 года назад +4

    S U ZU K I S V 6 5 0, hands down !!!

  • @godzillasuzuki2374
    @godzillasuzuki2374 3 года назад

    Cb650.. many have rust issues... just saying

  • @c0uchsl0uch
    @c0uchsl0uch 3 года назад

    100 pound wife❓ maybe the mt-03

  • @jrdm8393
    @jrdm8393 3 года назад

    This is not a beginner bike.

  • @Yasuakyy
    @Yasuakyy 3 года назад

    wait is he a native german? if so literally no acent at all. holy nice english bro

    • @NothingToProve
      @NothingToProve  3 года назад

      Nah, I'm not German but I married one. 😁👍 So I guess that makes me part German? 😊🤔

    • @Yasuakyy
      @Yasuakyy 3 года назад

      @@NothingToProve great choice of a country to marry into! for sure it does ;)!!

  • @windrides
    @windrides 3 года назад +2

    These bikes are not quite for beginners and certainly too much for a 50kg woman. Maybe a 300-400cc bike would be better for her

    • @arjorn9121
      @arjorn9121 3 года назад +2

      These bikes are perfectly fine for beginners. Especially considering that she comes from a 125 so isn't totally new to Motorcycles.

    • @windrides
      @windrides 3 года назад +1

      Arjorn I think you are right. it makes perfect sense for someone to upgrade to a bike that has 7 to 10 times more power than what is currently riding. Also it would be a piece of cake to handle a bike that weighs 4 times the rider's weight

    • @RutgerMulder
      @RutgerMulder 3 года назад +4

      Those bikes are the class people above 24 will ride on to get their motorcycle license in Europe. So perfectly fine for a beginner.
      His wife is riding the 125cc with her car drivers license i think. So she will need to go up for the motorcycle license anyway.

    • @CruStiii
      @CruStiii 3 года назад +1

      for responsible beginners its perfectly doable, i got it for my first bike coming from a 50cc

    • @nixuser1980
      @nixuser1980 3 года назад +1

      In Australia, we have a learners and a high output version of this bike. Based on the weight, it's probably not so bad. Based on the power, it probably depends on your handling of the throttle.