The bail arms on the steel and aluminium pots differ too. I have used an M44 for thousands of miles of cycle touring and think it is the best thing ever. The kosa fits perfectly inside the curves of the M44. Good tip for warming the burner in a pocket.
Do you not find it too big and bulky? I recently got one with day hikes and bike touring in mind but it is larger than I thought. Feels like it's made for two or even three people.
@@petemainaccI personally would take one of my lighter kits for a day hike, but on a cycle tour I find the M44 invaluable. I have used it to cook a one pot meal for three many times, so it is good for that too but that is by the by. It has become my favourite system for long cycle tours when mainly camping. I have used lighter ones but they are not so versatile. The windshield is great as it speeds up boiling times which saves a lot on fuel. Here is how I often use it at breakfast. Load up the pot with water and sit the pan on top with oats and raisins in. When the water is boiled it is enough for making brose with the oats, 2 cups of coffee and enough left to wash the pan. As for the volume it takes up it make a great container for all my cooking gear, coffee, Tbags, condiments, T-towel, mug, matches, fuel etc. etc. Take it and try it and I'm sure you'll love it. All my family have one each and I have 2. I could rave on about this forever but won't. It simply is the best I have ever found.
Whow ! Someone with as many mess kits as myself ! Two tips for you ; firstly, the Finnish M28 has a feature you didn't mention. It is the only one of the European mess tin set-ups that has a handle on the smaller part that will fold all the way over. This means you can easily pack it away if going lightweight, or have to split your mess kit with a colleague. Secondly, regarding lighting a Trangis burner in extremely cold conditions , a old fashioned pipe-cleaner wrapped and twisted together, around the burner and seated in the depression you mentioned, can be splashed with Meths and lit, to warm up and ignite the cooker fuel. Took me ages to get my Finnish mess tins as the Finns do not release much kit onto the market. Also I'm still looking for a Norwegian Army "Felt Kokekae" mess kit , but have not been able to source one , so far. Would you have any contacts/sites that I could try ? Finally, can I add that the quality and density of the aluminium used to make the Finnish mess tins is the highest quality of any cooking utensils I have come across. Thank you for producing a very informative video, on a subject of specialist interest.
@@militaryjunk Thank you for the reply. There just doesn't seem to be much documentation, or photographs, of the Norwegian "Flatlars" M53 and M75 mess tins. I think that they have been superseded now, but I know not what by. Information that I've been able to get on the web is patchy and some of it ill informed and even wrong. All the best , Happy Trails.
@petemainacc Pete , I do that quite a bit, especially in the summer. You can adapt a German/Austrian mess tin lid to fold over, by cutting out the relevant part of the pot with a file,grinder, or set of good tin snips. Just be careful and don't overdo it, "just enough and no more" !
I hope you can help me out. Years ago I bought a British Army Style Aluminum mess kit at Surplus store. It came with a two snap pouch. On the larger pan, it has the markings FMI over M\54 which during my research I discovered that it was Swedish Markings. I subsequently saw one for sale on E-bay. During all my research, I cannot find any history about these mess kits and the Swedish Armed forces. Do you have any knowledge about them?
I'm not aware of the Swedish Armed Forces using anything other than the M/40s and the jägarkök (ranger stove) until the soldier stove 09 / 10 came in. Do you have a picture?
@@militaryjunk I thought I had a picture of it, but I cannot find it. However as I said it is British Style WWII two piece mess kit with the larger Cook pan and a smaller pan that fits inside it. The maker's marks is described in my initial question; the lettering FMI in a rectangle on top of the hinge area of the Plate, and the lettering an M/54 in a rectangle below the hinge. I have search for the maker's mark in the internet, but have been unable to find it. The mess kit came with a canvas pouch with a fold over flap and two snaps on it.
@@militaryjunk Not quite, but thanks. It is close. I suspect mine is a one off experiment made at the same time as the one shown in the video. The Maker's mark is the same. As I stated if you saw it, you would think it to be a British mess kit, the difference being the top insert is slightly too large to put it in an invert position. You have to nest it in an upright position.
@@militaryjunk one reason its called "the dirty can" or "snuskburken" is because some units learned to use their canteen as a toilet during LP/OP missions. That may be a reason why many of us sweds have bad association with the m40/44.
@@christoferlarsson4858 Thanks. Something I didn't know. I have noticed that the M40 was never popular in the Swedish Armed Forces even if it is popular in the rest of the world :D
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This is a great video with some mess kit information thanks for sharing
Thanks.
멋진 영상 최고 훌륭합니다. 좋은 푸드 컨테이너입니다.
thanks
The bail arms on the steel and aluminium pots differ too. I have used an M44 for thousands of miles of cycle touring and think it is the best thing ever. The kosa fits perfectly inside the curves of the M44. Good tip for warming the burner in a pocket.
Interesting, thanks.
Do you not find it too big and bulky? I recently got one with day hikes and bike touring in mind but it is larger than I thought. Feels like it's made for two or even three people.
@@petemainaccI personally would take one of my lighter kits for a day hike, but on a cycle tour I find the M44 invaluable. I have used it to cook a one pot meal for three many times, so it is good for that too but that is by the by. It has become my favourite system for long cycle tours when mainly camping. I have used lighter ones but they are not so versatile. The windshield is great as it speeds up boiling times which saves a lot on fuel. Here is how I often use it at breakfast. Load up the pot with water and sit the pan on top with oats and raisins in. When the water is boiled it is enough for making brose with the oats, 2 cups of coffee and enough left to wash the pan. As for the volume it takes up it make a great container for all my cooking gear, coffee, Tbags, condiments, T-towel, mug, matches, fuel etc. etc. Take it and try it and I'm sure you'll love it. All my family have one each and I have 2. I could rave on about this forever but won't. It simply is the best I have ever found.
Whow ! Someone with as many mess kits as myself !
Two tips for you ; firstly, the Finnish M28 has a feature you didn't mention. It is the only one of the European mess tin set-ups that has a handle on the smaller part that will fold all the way over. This means you can easily pack it away if going lightweight, or have to split your mess kit with a colleague. Secondly, regarding lighting a Trangis burner in extremely cold conditions , a old fashioned pipe-cleaner wrapped and twisted together, around the burner and seated in the depression you mentioned, can be splashed with Meths and lit, to warm up and ignite the cooker fuel.
Took me ages to get my Finnish mess tins as the Finns do not release much kit onto the market. Also I'm still looking for a Norwegian Army "Felt Kokekae" mess kit , but have not been able to source one , so far. Would you have any contacts/sites that I could try ?
Finally, can I add that the quality and density of the aluminium used to make the Finnish mess tins is the highest quality of any cooking utensils I have come across. Thank you for producing a very informative video, on a subject of specialist interest.
Thanks for the reply and info. Unfortunately, I haven't seen much in the way of Norwegian mess kits.
@@militaryjunk Thank you for the reply. There just doesn't seem to be much documentation, or photographs, of the Norwegian "Flatlars" M53 and M75 mess tins. I think that they have been superseded now, but I know not what by. Information that I've been able to get on the web is patchy and some of it ill informed and even wrong. All the best , Happy Trails.
Not even much in Norwegian.
That's a great feature of the finish mess kit. I think I would only use the small pot.
@petemainacc Pete , I do that quite a bit, especially in the summer. You can adapt a German/Austrian mess tin lid to fold over, by cutting out the relevant part of the pot with a file,grinder, or set of good tin snips. Just be careful and don't overdo it, "just enough and no more" !
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Varsågod. Samma
thanks a lot
thanks
I hope you can help me out. Years ago I bought a British Army Style Aluminum mess kit at Surplus store. It came with a two snap pouch. On the larger pan, it has the markings FMI over M\54 which during my research I discovered that it was Swedish Markings. I subsequently saw one for sale on E-bay. During all my research, I cannot find any history about these mess kits and the Swedish Armed forces. Do you have any knowledge about them?
I'm not aware of the Swedish Armed Forces using anything other than the M/40s and the jägarkök (ranger stove) until the soldier stove 09 / 10 came in. Do you have a picture?
@@militaryjunk I will get you one. Thanks.
@@militaryjunk I thought I had a picture of it, but I cannot find it. However as I said it is British Style WWII two piece mess kit with the larger Cook pan and a smaller pan that fits inside it. The maker's marks is described in my initial question; the lettering FMI in a rectangle on top of the hinge area of the Plate, and the lettering an M/54 in a rectangle below the hinge. I have search for the maker's mark in the internet, but have been unable to find it. The mess kit came with a canvas pouch with a fold over flap and two snaps on it.
I've had a go at trying to find out what I can. The best I've got is the FM/55., Could this be it? ruclips.net/video/4kh2NPgO6HI/видео.html
@@militaryjunk Not quite, but thanks. It is close. I suspect mine is a one off experiment made at the same time as the one shown in the video. The Maker's mark is the same. As I stated if you saw it, you would think it to be a British mess kit, the difference being the top insert is slightly too large to put it in an invert position. You have to nest it in an upright position.
I love m’y titanium NATO canteen cup with lid. It does the job with no real extra space
thanks.
Bra att ha en snuskburk😂
never thought they were were ever liked in Sweden :D
@@militaryjunk one reason its called "the dirty can" or "snuskburken" is because some units learned to use their canteen as a toilet during LP/OP missions. That may be a reason why many of us sweds have bad association with the m40/44.
@@christoferlarsson4858 Thanks. Something I didn't know. I have noticed that the M40 was never popular in the Swedish Armed Forces even if it is popular in the rest of the world :D