Warhammer Old World Alternative Dwarf Models
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Dwarves are my favorite Warhammer Fantasy/Old World army. I'm super excited for the return of models, but not excited that I'm paying 2024 prices for 1994 models. In this video I show some alternative dwarf models that make perfect proxies for Warhammer Old World, or for use in One Page Rules, Kings of War, or any other fantasy game. They look great, cost about half as much, and the quality is excellent.
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I guess my actual first project for 2024 is to figure out what I really want to focus on, and then get rid of all the plastic that I’m probably never going to build, paint and play.
For those looking for hard plastic kits, there's lots of options if you know where to look.
-Bretonnians: Fireforge Games has a number of medieval and crusades kits, and a number of different styles of knight. They also have a few items of explicitly fantasy-style stuff tailor-made for Bretonnia, like knights with over-the-top helmets, or pegasus knights. Another manufacturer worth looking into is Perry Miniatures, who do tons of historicals, including ones good for Bretonnians and Empire.
-Empire: Speaking of, basically any historical miniatures lines could make for decent human infantry. Not just with Landsnecht style ones, either, though those work perfectly too. (Warlord Games and Wargames Atlantic both have good options on that score). But there are plenty of historical cultures that could make for Empire-proxies with a different spin. I toyed with the idea a while back of making an "Araby" style Empire/Cities of Sigmar army using Afghan Tribesmen models from Wargames Atlantic and Perry Miniatures. Swords & shields in the front, jezzails in the back, cavalry hitting in the flanks, and some Middle Eastern style spellcasters using the Frostgrave Wizards kit. You can go plenty of directions with "Empire of Man", and have it work well.
-Dwarves & Elves: For these, I'd recommend North Star Military Figures, who put out the Oathmark line. They have a couple kits each of Elves and Dwarves. They're flexible kits, too, so between the different kits and loadouts, you can produce a lot of what you need. Oathmark (and Frostgrave, same manufacturer) also have a number of metal (and sometimes resin) models for characters, champions, etc. Probably the one shortcoming of this route is none of the kits come with musicians, so you'll need to kitbash or something.
-Orcs & Goblins: See North Star Military Figures, as much of that explanation also applies to the greenskins. NSMF has a number of plastic kits and metal models. Though both they and Wargames Atlantic's Goblin kits look more "realistic" and less cartoony, the latter being the Warhammer standard. So if you go to these for your models, you'll be committing to a certain "grounded" style. More Lord of the Rings than Warhammer.
-Beastmen: RGB Gaming is a small, plucky manufacturer, but they have some pretty decent kits for Beastmen. They've got a Satyr kit (40 models per box), and two kits that mix Fauns and Centaurs in different proportions (since they share sprues). The Satyrs are Gors, the Fauns Ungors, and the Centaurs Centigors. An alternative to the standard "goat-men" style Beastmen would be to pick up the Gnoll Frostgrave kit from North Star Military Figures, as I did for my Beastmen warband. As with other NSMF lines, the Gnolls have metal models for filling important roles. I just had a few of those delivered, to diversify my dudes.
-Vampire Counts: There's no shortage of manufacturers who make generic undead, both plastic, resin, and metal. Fireforge Games, Warlord Games, Wargames Atlantic, North Star Military Figures, etc. They've all got some kind of skeleton or zombie kits in their catalogue. I'd also look at companies like Wargames Foundry (via their "Warmongers" site), more for specialized undead metal models. A set of wacky skeletons/zombies or characters in metal can really fill out command, lead an army, or occupy neat Unit Filler.
Lastly, I would be remiss if I didn't mention Mantic Games. As one of the closest GW has to a competitor, Mantic produces plastic and resin proxies for virtually everything in the old Warhammer range. If it was a Warhammer Fantasy Battles army, Mantic probably has its own take on them. (Though their recent revamp of Dark Elves has gone into a much different, more Mantic-specific style than "Elves, but with spikes" found in old Warhammer Fantasy. So your mileage may vary with that. Honestly, finding straight proxies for original style Dark Elves, in plastic, is kind of hard.)
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Oh hey! That’s my shop! BigWarsResinHearts! I will reinspect that veteran axe. As a vet I think it was supposed to be a bit warn and damaged because they all come out like that to my knowledge but thank you for bringing it to my attention
Nice. Have you checked out the final product? I made a video with everything painted on display. It looks fantastic.
These are great! Highlands Miniatures do produce some amazing designs, I've been a patron for a while so I have a wide variety of humans, undead, dwarves, orcs and goblins. Like you I appreciate the 'just right' level of detail on their models. I don't play GW games but the stuff I get form Highlands fills in the gaps in the current One Page Rules model range. It's good to see some indie designers getting coverage, thx!
I am a big fan of Highlands Miniatures, Ramon is crazy. He sculpts all that stuff every month by himself and still has time to have a nice chat on discord with me lol. The man is a machine
I'm 100% happy with the dwarves, which means next I'll be taking a closer look at his other stuff.
@@Good.Nuff.Gaming good choice, he recently revamped his skeletons as well. Spears were a bit too thin so he beefed them up and also improved on the bones and poses.
I printed those dwarves about 2 weeks ago as well. Love the sculpts, still need to get them all on bases though.
Looking great! I'm currently painting fleshveater courts and have Chaos Dwarves on the printer for old world. Lost Kingdoms have some great takes on several older lines.
Those sculpts look great, love the video! Paint jobs are top notch as well, look lovely
Late to the party on this one, but i found a seller on ebay who was selling the highland dwarfs at about $1/model. Considering the new ironbreakers rerelease still has them priced at a little over $3.50/dwarf, and before that they were $5/dwarf, that's pretty good. for less than the price of two boxes of those i got 80 ironbreakers and 40 slayers (current prices for the metal rerelease are at an astronomical $8.50/dwarf)
Wow, who is the new vendor? I may need to add some units to the army...
2024 is hopefully going to be the year I get some fantasy skirmish terrain done, for Mordheim, Frostgrave and OPR. Got some warbands well under way, time to give them something to fight over!
You showed uo in my main page in perfect time. I was just looking for dwarf models for old world thx
Glad to be of assistance.
i try to finish painting my Empire army (Sylvania) for Warhammer Fantasy CE / the old world (I'm not gonna rebase anything, though), so i finally got a fully painted army.
They look great painted
Doing a robot legion army using mantic's Asterian miniatures. They're robots but have a sort of elven technology vibes. Other than that it's just continued work on my other projects. Looking forward to a new year!
I'm digging the paint job. Good job.
Don't sleep on Atlantis Miniatures! Their dwarfs are AMAZING.
Really? I will definitely check them out. There are so many amazing STL designs on MMF that I've actually getting a digital pile of shame.
Luckily I still have all my old WHF armies and plenty of unpainted plastic that I picked up when GW dropped support. Many game stores were unloading the old WHF models, more or less at cost.
The unit fillers was a big thing in Mantic's Kings of War - since units are treated as single models.
I love Kings of War, but One Page Rules has been a much easier sell for my group.
The Kings of War community learned it from late stage Warhammer Fantasy Battle, since the fans from the former were just refugees from the latter (along with a bunch of other rank-and-flank fantasy successor games, like 9th Age).
Unit Fillers were an important way of bulking out regiments when 1) unit widths changed (so old collections didn't "rank up" with enough models) and 2) points changes and game sizes changed (so suddenly you needed tons more models for a legal army). Especially important for armies like Vampire Counts, Goblins, and Skaven, where you needed MASSIVE infantry blocks. Even if you could afford more cheap chaff, you didn't really want to paint that many trash mob models. If you could fill space with a diorama base, using spare parts no less, so much the better.
I love Highland's stuff. As far as print quality. There is no visual difference between the 2k and the 4k. I printed an OPR mummy in an Anycubic mono 4k and the QidiTech Shadow 6.0 Pro. Same resin and same layer height. I couldn't see any difference. You're older printer will be just fine.
Good to hear. Now I just need to find a way to enjoy the clean up as much as I like building and painting.
Those are legit the best dwarves on the market
I'm really pleased with them. Once I get this batch painted I'll probably get more. I'm hoping this will be main main OPR and WFB army.
And... I’m not into the 3D printing hobby (😁) and one of the posts below references other sources for plastic kits. I wouldn’t mind a video exploring other manufacturers, and seeing how they compare, price wise and in terms of quality, to GW.
Definitely picking up the Sons of Ymiri guys - though might get a couple of the war machines from Kyoushenuko since I actually still have an original pewter Stone Thrower.
For rank-and-file games, I also consider how well they'll fit next to other models of the same type. Some of the more dynamically posed mini lines won't physically fit well when they need to group up so close.
Of course you can also just fit models onto unit bases "as they appropriately fit" with less consideration to the exact count of models on the base. Probably a good middle ground if the models are all crazy.
Good point. The litko bases give you a bit more room, but that also increases the frontage of the unit. It's a trade off. I had an old chaos warriors unit that had assigned spots for every model because otherwise they wouldn't fit in the tray.
More DORFS!!!
Cool! More videos of these cute dwafs please! ❤
They'll hit the tabletop next week.
They're not alternative models. Those are the models. The bear rider would be a proxy.
people are saying the dwarfs are too big for highland miniatures dwarcvs, this isnt true, the dwarfs are detailed in WHFRP as being from 4"5"-5"2" and halflings a foot shorter. the size of the highland models is closer to thaat stated by the roleplay. the old dwarfs where in fact too small compred to their original description
I actually have a box of GW dwarves. Once I build a couple I'll make a video comparing them.
HLM dwarfs in 88% scale bigger then most old fb dwarfs. in 88% they have size like late irobrakers and irondrakers from 8e fb. so 100% hl dwarfs little oversize.
@MomentalnoVMore but it's NOT oversize if you follow warhammer fantasy role-playing description of dwarves
@@MomentalnoVMore q dwarf according fantasy role-playing is 4.5 feet tall to 5.2 feet tall the size of a medieval human being meaning in reality they would be eye to eye with smaller adults. Or eye to chin
@MomentalnoVMore warhammer fantasy old dwarf models where only slightly bigger than a halfling. Meaning the scale they made the warhammer fantasy dwarf models to was too small compared to how described in the role-playing
Glad to see the Dawi! I doubt I'll re enter Old World, rules along cost way to much, but I've got so many dwarf STLs, I'd be nice to get a throng back up and running.
Old fantasy I had over 50k of dwarf points. Many were collection pieces lol.
I hope you try out OPR regiments so your dwarves can *ahem* stretch their legs.
@@Good.Nuff.Gaming Ive really been looking at OPR in general, reason I found your channel for the batreps, and I'm really liking the system. And yeah with the resurgence of Old world, hoping form some beautiful sculpts from creators
Highlands also does Bretonnians and Orcs and Goblins
They are a great company. I hope they do as many armies as possible.
I bought a basileans army box on Amazon since I was planning to play kings of war because its ao cheap but with the release of the old world I am too hyped to play it but also don't want to shell out the cash for their minis so I'll be using most of the those minis supplemented with OPR minis who just had a recent winter sale to make an Empire Army. Although I do think the big iconic stuff like the War Altar, Steam Tank, and General on Imperial Griffin are too good to pass up once they go on sale
I plan on buying GW kits for their really centerpiece stuff, but fill out the rank and file with other models
There is plenty of alternative models out there and its one of the reasons Fantasy died the first time. Now with 3D printing AND the alternative models, it will be short lived.
I've heard that from several other places. The game died because it required too many minis to build a viable army, and it was too big a learning curve for a new player to build and paint 100 minis before they could even get a game in. Given the starter box pricing (for the old sculpts) it appears they didn't learn the lesson.
Are there any other miniature/model companies other than Highlands? I don't plan on playing official tournaments
head to My Mini Factory and you will see the ocean of STL files. Then if you don't have a printer check on Etsy and you'll likely find either a licensed vender or someone who will print them for you. Seriously, you can spend hours looking over pages and pages of amazing designs. One Page Rules, Highlands, Titan Forge, Puppets War, Archvillain, and Kyoushuneko are just the ones I've bought from so far.
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You are welcome to submit art for me to use.
@@Good.Nuff.Gamingor you can use pictures from your projects, or you can hire artists, or you can learn to draw