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A channel for casual tabletop gamers and hobbyists. It's not perfect, but it's Good'Nuff.
If you play any games that involve miniatures and dice, you've come to the right place. Here you'll find a little bit of everything; painting, playing, and pondering (at least about hobby stuff). I don't think I've met a miniatures game that I didn't like, and I learn about many of them watching RUclips, so maybe I can pay it forward.
So stick around, browse the channel, and let me know what games you play, what models you paint and collect, and what you're favorite part about tabletop gaming is.
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If you play any games that involve miniatures and dice, you've come to the right place. Here you'll find a little bit of everything; painting, playing, and pondering (at least about hobby stuff). I don't think I've met a miniatures game that I didn't like, and I learn about many of them watching RUclips, so maybe I can pay it forward.
So stick around, browse the channel, and let me know what games you play, what models you paint and collect, and what you're favorite part about tabletop gaming is.
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80s Synth Wave Prime Brothers v. Zerg (Alien Hives)
I finally got enough of my Zerg army finished to play a full game with them. This isn't the narrative game I have planned, just a test run. Can the Prime Brothers cleanse the city, or will the Zerg overrun them? For the Swarm!
Alien Hives: army-forge.onepagerules.com/share?id=EH4hIlDc0um6&name=Alien_Hives
Prime Brothers: army-forge.onepagerules.com/share?id=lyUzoTjsH40x&name=Synthwavers_(Elite)
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Alien Hives: army-forge.onepagerules.com/share?id=EH4hIlDc0um6&name=Alien_Hives
Prime Brothers: army-forge.onepagerules.com/share?id=lyUzoTjsH40x&name=Synthwavers_(Elite)
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Is the tabletop gaming business model changing?
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Between brick-and-mortar stores, online retailers, 3D printing, and crowdfunding, what's the future of gaming business models? Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool gear: my-store-f06e09.creator-spring.com See more cool models and paint jobs at: goodnuffhobbies Need other ...
Line of Sight Podcast: Ep. 8 - Gaming Across the Pond
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In this episode, Andy from @SpymasterGaming and Ed from @dontthinkjustcharge talk about tabletop gaming in the UK, the recent OPR tournament they helped put on, and upcoming projects for their channels. Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool gear: my-store-f06e09.creator-spring.com See m...
What's One Page Rules Been Up To? Aug 2024
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New factions? New models? New games? Let's see what OPR has been working on this month. Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool gear: my-store-f06e09.creator-spring.com See more cool models and paint jobs at: goodnuffhobbies Visit Waterloo Games for models and hobby supplies...
Creep!: Painting bases for a Starcraft Zerg Army
Просмотров 241День назад
In this video I experiment with how to paint bases to get the effect of Zerg creep. Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool gear: my-store-f06e09.creator-spring.com See more cool models and paint jobs at: goodnuffhobbies Need other models and supplies? Check out my partner i...
The "Prime" Directive: Basecoats, Speed Paints, and the Dreaded "Fuzz"
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In this video I paint up my second ultralisk, and realize just how big a difference the basecoat makes when using speed paints (or contrast, etc.). Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool gear: my-store-f06e09.creator-spring.com See more cool models and paint jobs at: goodnu...
Anniversary Batrep & Giveaway! Dwarves v. High Elf Fleets
Просмотров 1,4 тыс.14 дней назад
One year ago I uploaded a video of how to paint a miniature for Cyperpunk2077 Combat Zone. Now I have over 100 videos. To say thanks to those who have helped this channel grow I'm giving away the dwarf army being used in the batrep. Leave a comment below with a name for the army, a one-sentence backstory, or something similar, and you'll be entered to win the army. I'll draw the winner in late ...
Gale Force 9 Gothic Sector Terrain Review
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Any of you who played @DawnofWar will recognize these. @GaleForceNineGames has made an entire line of terrain based on the Space Marine buildings from the game. In this video I unbox and examine the Fortress Monastery and Objective Listening Post. Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool g...
Does OPR Need Rules Changes?
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After a year of playing a lot of OPR for the channel, what things might need some revision with OPR's ruleset? Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool gear: my-store-f06e09.creator-spring.com See more cool models and paint jobs at: goodnuffhobbies Need other models and suppl...
2000pts - Dwarf Civil War!: Dwarves v. Havoc Dwarves
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We return to One Page Rules: Regiments with battles that pits the dwarves of the Iron Hills against the dwarves of the Burning Chasm in this 2000 point battle report. Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool gear: my-store-f06e09.creator-spring.com See more cool models and paint jobs at: i...
Get the Raid!: Painting A Starcraft Corpser Roach
Просмотров 19921 день назад
In this video I paint up a Corpser Roach using slapchop for my One Page Rules Alien Hives army. Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool gear: my-store-f06e09.creator-spring.com See more cool models and paint jobs at: goodnuffhobbies Need other models and supplies? Check out ...
2000pts - Demons of Change v. Eternal Wardens
Просмотров 1,1 тыс.28 дней назад
Mike is back and this time he's brought his Wardens - a debut on the channel. They will be going up against my Rift Demons of Change army - another channel debut. Demons: army-forge.onepagerules.com/share?id=IDikJbUTSrSE&name=Rift_Daemons of Change Wardens: army-forge.onepagerules.com/share?id=YbmT-_DTx4OI&name=Eternal_Wardens Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channe...
For the Hive Mind: Slapchop painting a Zerg Roach
Просмотров 271Месяц назад
In this video I continue using the slapchop method on a roach for my new Alien Hives model based on the Zerg from Starcrat II. The model was 3D printed by: www.etsy.com/shop/SiffysCorner Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool gear: my-store-f06e09.creator-spring.com See more cool models ...
Kroot Carnivores Army Showcase
Просмотров 2,3 тыс.Месяц назад
Just finished a commission to paint two of the new Kroot army boxes from Games Workshop. Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/UCUoVwrB9sutjlrL39sgofQQjoin Help me make more videos while getting some cool gear: my-store-f06e09.creator-spring.com See more cool models and paint jobs at: goodnuffhobbies Visit Waterloo Games for models and hobby supplie...
Line of Sight Podcast: Ep. 7 - The Video Game Developer
Просмотров 361Месяц назад
In this episode I talk with my brother, Jason, who is a video game developer and has worked for companies like THQ and Sony. Currently he is working on a mobile RPG game that's in beta testing - and because you listened you are invited to join the beta! The game is called MythWalker. Just head to mythwalker.com/ and sign up. Join the Kingdom and enjoy the perks of nobility: ruclips.net/channel/...
What's One Page Rules Been Up To? July 2024
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What's One Page Rules Been Up To? July 2024
Tabletop Wargaming and the Matt Mercer Effect
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Tabletop Wargaming and the Matt Mercer Effect
Age of Fantasy Quest - And a New Video Style!
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Age of Fantasy Quest - And a New Video Style!
Painting wood, rope, and sailcloth on a dwarf airship
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Painting wood, rope, and sailcloth on a dwarf airship
250pts Skirmish - Ogres v. Havoc Barbarians
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250pts Skirmish - Ogres v. Havoc Barbarians
Line of Sight podcast: Ep. 6 - The Local Game Store Owner
Просмотров 6442 месяца назад
Line of Sight podcast: Ep. 6 - The Local Game Store Owner
Hail Hydra!: Slapchop painting a Zerg Hydralisk
Просмотров 4982 месяца назад
Hail Hydra!: Slapchop painting a Zerg Hydralisk
What's One Page Rules Been Up To? June 2024
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What's One Page Rules Been Up To? June 2024
3000pts - Volcanic Dwarves v. Vampiric Undead
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3000pts - Volcanic Dwarves v. Vampiric Undead
Double STL Review - Hill Dwarves, Havoc Dwarves, and Warfleets, Oh My!
Просмотров 8772 месяца назад
Double STL Review - Hill Dwarves, Havoc Dwarves, and Warfleets, Oh My!
I need to dust off my Prime Bros. They're much better in the current version of the rules.
The My Little Pony Chapter!
Call very good points this is the kind of considered discussion I like to see. I would like one page rules to finally bite the bullet and give unit full melee/ranged/morale/move/defense profiles. Their slavosh adherence to the simplest profile is holding it back
"I was giving them money to use the stuff I already had." Preach! Great video. Well spoken and well reasoned.
I've never backed a kickstarter game as they are all to expensive for something i doesn't know in advance will play well and to my tastes. I think whete possible they need to offer "demo" versions like computer games do - cheep or free-to-print versions with the core game. Then if i love that i may shell out for the full version with dozens of fancy parts.
OK, now I'm happy and sold. I was hoping for a Quest equivalent for Grimdark Future....and it is coming. Excellent!!! Time to finish my WH40k pile of shame for what's to come.
I think I'd like the Synth Wave Marines more if it wasnt "this year." But for now they just look like propaganda marines.
Sad but true.
@@Good.Nuff.Gaming If it had more orange and black as well, then went in to some very vibrant/neon looking edge highlights, it would have a stronger Synthwave vibe.
“Good enough now, is perfect,” a common phrase in military procurement
19:30 the puns! The puns are never ending and I love it!
Awesome game! What is the size of the board used??
It was a 6x4
Great battle rep and OPR with zerg models, even more awesome! FYI, melee morale test ignores the wounds at end of activation clause: "Units that were in melee don’t take morale tests from wounds at the end of an activation, but must compare the number of wounds each unit caused instead. The unit with the lowest total loses, and must take a morale test."
Visible dice! What an amazing change :P. Thank you for the content. :)
Ok the name is "Hot Pink Lover"!!!!
These Zerg models are amazing!
The marine to the left is from the 2nd Edition boxed set, 1993. It is 3 pieces - gun w/ hands, main body, back pack.
Iirc they also came in the third edition paint kit?
Yay! I love firstborn marines. Primaris project is a big scum
Just say down wirh a beer, olives and cheese. Theb this pops up. Thats the next hour sorted 👌
I don't mind the elves. it exactly what i think of elves. as for the fantasy like design i think it create a theme of how high tech they are, like a so high tech it's magic kind feel
Once all the long-ears have fallen down there was There was neither celebration of victory nor mourning for the fallen dwarves.The only thing victorious dwarves new was that the enemies of the Ironbeard Corp will be back sooner or later. Extraction of valuable minerals should begin asap. "It looks like it's safe. Let's rinse our throats with a sip of good liquor.... safe, at least for now so we need to start... Good'nuff lads! Let's strike the earth!" said The Mining Master and then, having rolled up their sleeves, the dwarves got to work. If you draw this entry then sell the kit and donate the money to the needy you don't know.God bless you all!
I'm subscribed to the Ashes Reborn game. A few times a year, they charge me $40 and send me the new expansion and cards. The subscription model is absolutely already a thing!
GW is Cult Tactics Marketing ( a term I just made up ). People get in because they need a community. They stay in and take the abuse of the Cult Leader ( GW ) because they don't want to leave that community. The social instinct is a type of survival instinct and for many that is stronger than the need for self respect.
That's an interesting take on it. It can indeed feel like an abusive relationship
Another factor to consider is 3-D printing. People are less desperate for purchased miniatures bundles when they can print their own at a fractional price.
Yep, and printing is getting better and cheaper every day.
One big risk I believe is that people are discovering the sheer difficulty in finding friends/players who will play all these kickstarters. Market is getting saturated with variety. Much harder than video games.
Good point. There isn't a global waiting room like Steam. TTS tried, but it's not the same
Subscription models won't work with a CMON, the "culture" of that industry relies heavily on being sold for that specific game and offering. You wouldn't sign up to buy something sight unseen. What you're describing sounds more like their stretch pay model, where you break your pledge into several payments in case you don't have the cash right then. Long term sign-ups, people buying a year in advance, are all based on an established product, you may not know what new shows Netflix will make, but you know what it is and 99% of its shows and movies over the next year are already available. STL makers all go monthly, a discrete offering that you either accept or don't accept.
Valid point.
Looks great! Do you have your own printer?
I do, but I paid for these guys. My printing isn't the greatest so I wanted to make sure I got good prints.
So from the miniatures stand point at least, I have a friend who used to be model designer for a US based miniatures company. There was a significant shift in the company after their first successful Kickstarter. Suddenly their entire business strategy shifted to churning out 1-2 Kickstarters every year. It killed the freedom that the artists originally had, and started to mirror the crunch that a lot of game development world has. They're literally spending their days designing the stretch goal minis with their early sketches getting published and the dragged online. I think crowd funding has shifted from a "I have a cool idea, lets see if other people like it" to a "this is our entire business model" and its why crowd funding games has shifted in how its perceived. I mean, do companies like CMON really NEED to crowdfund? And Kickstarter depends on these successful repeat campaigns to make their money too, so they encourage it.
I've heard similar comments in other places, that companies just leap frog from each kickstarter to the next.
The reason businesses favour the subscription model is specifically to take advantage of peoples poor spending habit and lack of personal financial responsibility. It is explicitly exploitative and we don't need anymore of it in our hobbies. - A Business Major
Really? I suppose it's how much it costs. I spend $120 a year for my subscription to OPR. That would be two boxes from GW. Now, I can definitely see the devil in the whole "5 bucks to this place and 5 to that" eventually adding up to way more than the person intended.
Excellent video and analysis! I would love to see the “numbers” from the crowd funding sites rather than a writer’s opinion (sorry media writers, your credibility is still poor) - “peak oil” was real too, until it wasn’t- some bitter writer trying to cast shade on the board game industry usually screams of sour grapes
I don't know how to vote on this, so I'm commenting instead. I agree with your analysis of the analysis -- but Peak Oil is still a thing.
Thanks for the kind words
I would like a subscription service for physical minis because it would be good for budgeting (Assuming they don’t miss out part of the range on purpose to get sales as well).
Me too. I just don't have the knack or desire for printing like I thought I would, so I'd be willing to put the money I've put into printing into paying someone else to print instead.
The volume is a bit low. Great video anyway 😊
Really? It sounds so loud when I'm editing.
Yes for me at least, your intro is in a good level but when you start to talk it's low 😊@@Good.Nuff.Gaming
Patreon, in particular OPR patreon, exists as sort of a magazine subscription. I'm totes cool with paying for a magazine subscription to a thing I like. Also, linking the article in the description would be welcome. CMON is big enough that they don't need kickstarter, as are many of the other players in the games space. Their products are regularly available and released through online stores and LGS. They use it as a pre-order system and to push the side trinkets that don't sell well as individual buys at an LGS. No store wants to stock a single-game playmat that's going to rot on a shelf, so make them available with the game itself and make them to order at the number you need for people that actually want it at time of release. A poorly designed kickstarter that makes it basically impossible to figure out what you're actually getting (looking at you, Dakka Dakka Store) is infinitely more frustrating to use than a normal storefront. FOMO crap that adds little to no value to the game only fuels scalpers. There are genuine ongoing supply chain issues due to political and weather events that trigger delays, practically nobody keeps decoupled stock, and just-in-time practices remain extremely vulnerable to disruption that can ramifications for years on a given market. I also think there's a general fatigue on this sort of thing. Getting a new game with 300 miniatures and a thousand cards is cool... once or twice. Most everyone I know has been burned by an abandoned or underwhelming crowdfunding project by now.
I don't like subscriptions, and given the collapse of companies like Netflix and Disney, I don't think that particular business model will work long term. That said, if you want subscription based wargaming, GW has a 40k magazine that comes with minis and paints that is more or less what you describe. So many game Kickstarter feel unnecessary. I'm not a mini expert, but a DC licensed game from a company that has been operating for a decade. Don't they have enough capital to start production? Kickstarter used to be for upstarts and more out there ideas that might not be viable.
I'm familiar with the GW subscription, but is that available in NA? I thought it was only Europe?
@@Good.Nuff.Gaming I was talking about their recent Combat Patrol magazine. I don't know if it's available in the US. I guess not. In short, it's about £10 per magazine, and each one you get something. A mini. Some paint. That kind of thing. I got the first one (£3 for a Space Marine Terminator Captain and a Tyranid Prime leader) because it seemed like a good deal, but some of the stuff you get in future issues is questionable to me. £10 for a singe sergeant. That kind of thing. Also, 9 combat patrols plus paints plus rules for £890 total is a bit steep for me. Especially since only about half the armies seem to be interesting. I'm sure it'll be less than RRP/MSRP if it was all totaled up, but unless you're a super fan I can see it costing more money in the long run. Related to that. One thing I found interesting is the magazine had a d3 table to name and give a backstory to your leader. I don't know if that's a thing in modern 40k.
RUclips seems to have ate my reply (but says there's 2 replies but only shows 1, so sorry if this is a double post) but I was talking about the recent Combat Patrol magazine, which I guess isn't available in the US. £10 for a magazine and something. A mini, some paint, whatever. I guess it would work out cheaper if you totaled it all up, but unless you want 9 different combat patrols, it might still be better to just get them individually.
Kind of a tangent but I have not brought games I would have otherwise simply because its missing a bunch of stuff that was 'kickstarter only'. I get giving early backers things like discounts, alternative sculpts or some fancy promo cards etc... just dont lock exta parts of the game or whole expansions behind a one month kickstarter that most of us will not even be aware of is happening
Good point. FOMO can backfire. I know if I feel like I'm getting a timeshare pitch instead of a temptation it drives me away.
Great content as always
In the 1970s/80s, my mate and I clubbed together to buy a gaming magazine called Strategy and Tactics. The main part of it was a board game; map, counters, and rules. There were supporting history articles too. That is how we learnt.
It was monthly, by the way.
I hate monthly subscriptions! I love OPR and have subbed to their patreon (and to other mini modelers) for years! I don't know how to reconcile that lol! Seriously, the CMON Cyberpunk 2077 game was stupid expensive, insane shipping... And I bought it all. Last kickstarter I'm ever going to do! I didn't know better at the time!
It's this hobby, I tell you, I bought the Cyberpunk Combat Zone game and painted it up and haven't played a single game yet.
Amen you hit it on the head
In my opinion I think after so much perceived sucess previously + over the pandemic period, more companies & individuals saw kickstarter as an easy way to get funding & make money; causing an explosion of offerings at very different quality's and value, in adition to encouraging companies to offer less & less for same price. I feel the sheer number of offerings now has people being more hesitant as well, with too much choice to consider & regular new offerings. Fomo and limited options (smaller no. of wargames kickstarters) created, along with popularity of kickstarter in general historically lead to this over saturation, now encouraging people to better consider their choices along with having less disposable income & time. With the right marketing there are still huge wins but many creators are just still assuming they don't need the marketing or offering very little in real terms, with the more cynical companies using kickstarters as little more than an advert for something they were capable of funding themselves & as a way of taking pre-orders. All this puts me off even considering them now.
I agree with the explosion comment. Just go to MMF and there are more great sculpts than you could ever print in a lifetime.
I would not subscribe to a company that does not deliver a product every time they get my money. It doesn't need to be a complete product at once, but I want to see some part of what I'm paying for every time I pay. Take OPR - I have a monthly subscription and every month I get some models. I don't get the entire range every month, but I get a part of it, and that makes me feel I'm getting my moneys worth without much risk - if Gaetano suddenly decides to run away with the money I will only have lost one month of subscription, instead of six or potentially even a whole year. TL;DR: I like to get stuff every time I pay for it. On the other hand I love if board games sold components as STLs. and printable PDFs, with the option to buy it in pieces, ie. I'll print my own minis, but will buy the game board professionally printed on a nice, hard cardboard.
Oh I agree with that. I would say if board game companies go subscription they send the items in a stream so that you have something to look forward to every month. Plus it will make people less likely to cancel because maybe next month's item will be awesome
Thanks for the video.
The same thing happened with TSR back in the 80s. Part of why they wound up in so much debt was because the business side of TSR made a bunch of business ventures that sounded reasonable but weren't. They invested into the hobby community hoping for overlap with the gaming community and while that certainly exist now that overlap wasn't quite there at the time. You also had the problem of executives not focusing on making sure the game itself was high quality. Dice Wizards and Killing the Dragon go into this in far more detail.
Thanks. I'll check them out
Thanks to you and your channel i tried OPR last week end for the first time with my GF (our first wargame) we both love it So thank you keep it up
Awesome! Here's to a long time enjoying a great hobby and game.
So how much consultation do you do with the people who commission work? I can see here what you are doing but I was wondering how much input came from the owner?
Most of them say "paint it like the box" as far as color scheme, and want a slight higher than tabletop standard. If they are new I paint one model fully and then see what they think before doing the rest.
The Gem Getters - it doesn't matter where those gems are. We will get them
I disagree about finding a game. Where I live at least, GW is the only game in town. There are no other local places to play anything. I'm not exactly rural either. The next town over has some FLGS and clubs, but last time I was there they were limited in what they played. The question about tables. The local GW has about 3-6 (the place has closed down and re-opened a bunch). But they're basically half-sized tables. 2x2, maybe 3x3 I've not measured, and due to the layout of the building, playing a full board would be wider than it is long. Why clubs work in the UK. I think it's a matter of space. I'm kinda jealous when US RUclipsrs go to their "basement" or "garage" or "man cave" and they have a huge 10x10 space (or more) to do whatever they want with. This combines with the previous point, where a kitchen table or a even a coffee table is the only gaming space available. This is why I was interested in those "tiny 40k" videos that shrink heroic scale to 10-15mm scale. On not using d6s. I had a similar idea of just using d8s with no modifications and see how that goes. I've never got to play vanilla OPR, so it would have to be someone else. But I wondered if the higher hit rate on attacks would be countered by higher saves. I like your d12 idea though. Maybe that could be a future battle report?
Valid points. I remember from the time I spent in different countries in Europe, that houses just weren't as big and so you're right - it's not a common to have a room to fully dedicate to gaming.