I'm afraid they likely won't. As shown in the video there are already leaks suggesting both Koreas are just going to be sub trees. But I myself absolutely agree, there'd be so much more room for unique vehicles.
@@hans2936 But it will not be if both Nth and Sth Korea are one tree. What this guy forgot to add is both Nth and Sth had some Japanese tanks after WW2 only used for training. So they could start at rank 1 maybe 2. There would be a way more variety of vechles though some the same but a bit different.
As a Korean war thunder player i’m really glad that you made this video. When the Vidar got added to the game, i was so excited. I wish i could see more South Korean tanks in game. As an former soldier in Korea i can insure that Korean tech is worth playing. Thx for having interested in our nation! (there can be some grammer issuesin my writing but i would be thankful if you guys understand❤)
I think North Korea would fit pretty well as a sub tree for China, but the South absolutely not. Puting both Koreas together as a sub tree for China is about the worst option they could go for
I agree, full tech trees for either seperate or united Korea would be so nice to see, but for whatever reason Gaijin seems to prefer to add just sub trees.
Yeah I was a bit confused about that. Another commenter already pointed that Korea never recieved these T80UK's however, so it doesn't really matter regardless. Thanks for the comment though!
16:04 this is not only an armour package. This variant of a k2 is adjusted to the requirements of the Polish Armed Forces. Hunday changed plenty of things in this model of k2: -have extra set of road wheels - drivers position shifted to the center of the hull -2 smaller isolated ammo rack(basically driver is squized between two ammo racks) -korean licence variant of trophy - additional armour in the front and sides. If I remember correctly polish army rejected that option because: -developing this version would essentially require designing the tank from scratch. +all tests would need to be repeated. +the Koreans wanted us to fund their research and development work on this variant, which was intended to eventually become the K3.
Very interesting, I did mention a couple of these things (though far less detailed than you did), but in the end it was never made so I don't think it'll be added to the game. Thanks for all the info though!
@David_M543 maybe it will be made in the future when ROK will decide to replace their k2s. Also that k2 version would be great end game tank for korean army tech tree bc it literally fix every problem that k2 have.
Just a minor correction, it's KAPS (Similar to Iron-Fist) not Trophy in that Preliminary K2PL / K2M model. (Images of a KAPS equipped K2 can be found be found, it's under the K2 PIP program) However, there is a licensed Trophy VPS variant (KAPS-2) for the K2NO and the K2PL (K2EX)
@@SeGo-T The Polish Army decided to choose Trophy because kaps did not meet the requirements of the Polish Armed Forces. Additionally based on all the information that was recently leaked the ROK also considers Kaps not ready for service. This is also a reason why Hyundai proposed our army a Trophy as an alternative to kaps
The people who always complain that nations get copy paste are forgetting not every country can build thier own defense stuff and resources are limited so if the game wants to survive in the future copy paste is the only way or else they have to take world of Tanks route which is just shit in my opinion.
Nicely put together video! As a South Korean, I must say that the purchase of the T-80UK is false. This was confirmed in the National Defense Spending Audits in 2002. There are some misinformation regarding the K-1 series in your video. The early K-1 ~K-1E variants sported the GPSS/GPTTS (Gen 1) thermal sights, instead of just NVD. I also want to add that the APFSDS shell (K-276) fired by all 120mm fielding K-1 variants are known to penetrate 650mm of RHA at a range of 2km. A further development, such as the K-279 shell is seen more capable than the DM63s, and a bit less capable compared to the M829A3. The K-2, being a whole new tank, has the option to equip hard-kill APS, Top Attack AT rounds, and HEAT-MP rounds that can fend itself from helicopters. The 120, L/55 gun found on the K-2 is of domestic design and production, not a copy of the Rh120 L/55. Another interesting difference between the K-1 and the K-2 is the fact that the loader is replaced with an autoloader. Some interesting variants of the K-2 are the K-2PL (export version to Poland), and the Altay tank. (export version to Turkiye)
@@David_M543 @Rommotti the T-80U is the correct variant, and it was given without fee to South Korea to pay off debts incurred by the now Russian Federation during the Cold War, the BMP-3 was also given, and probably a large supply of ammunition
@@David_M543 I think he's trying to address the long standing meme in Korea where we went all out in making artillery, like the k9. We have about 1800 units in a small country like ours. It's like the government had some kind of pent up anger during the Korean war and decided that the one thing we lacked was firepower, albeit conventional. But, now that you mention it, its just how modern warfare works.
Quite likely they will yes, but in my personal VERY biassed opinion I think the BeNeLux should be added first, but it's always a big mistery with Gaijoobles
Just to note Both Nth and Sth Korea did have captured Japanese tanks before the Korean war started. I don't know and don't think they where used in it as far as I know.
There are a few South Korean vehicles you missed: the KW2 with Raybolt ATGMs (not sure if this exists yet), the K311 with KP-SAM pedestal, and the KM450 with either a CS/LM5, KPV, ZPU, or ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft gun system. Note that KM450 is the export name of the K311.
I couldn't find anything on the KW2 in a quick google search, and the KM450 variants you named don't seem to be used by Korea themselves. The first K311 you named I'll definitely mention in the North Korean video, thank you for bringing light to all these vehicles!
@@David_M543 Wikipedia didn't cite anything for the KW2 IFV; however, I did find an article that stated an IFV version of the K808 Baekho was studied but it remains to be seen if it will be built. Also, I thought modifications to Korean export/license built vehicles would be fair game at this time. The weaponized KM450s are mostly technicals from Mali except for the the KPV mounted one which was seen in Sudan. I'll also note that KM450s are locally assembled in Mali and Sudan. Sudan has even made APCs/reconnaissance vehicles, the SarSar-1 and -2, based on the KM450 chassis. I would have mentioned the Sudanese Taka MRL based on the KM450 chassis that appeared at IDEX 2017, but I don't have enough information on it.
@@StoneCresent The reason I didn't really name certain vehicles is because I rather have export vehicles be in the tech tree for the country using the vehicle, this is why I for instance left out the Altay. Though I am aware that I directly contradicted this in this very video, so I will pay better atention to that in the future. Thank you for suggesting these vehicles tho, I'll have another look over them and I'll see if I can mention them upcoming video.
@@David_M543 I thought of mentioning the Altay and T-155 Fırtına too. However, they can be talked about in a separate video for Turkish vehicles that could be added to War Thunder.
After having lived in Korea for six year because my dad was a soldier in the American army I can easily say I would abandon all of my tech trees to play Korea. The Korean military from what I’ve seen is really cool and really well developed from where it started off from. It would also be really good because it provides a good mix of both sides of the Cold War plus their own unique vehicles. Korea is one of those countries that’s good at everything and bad at really nothing. Also can you do an air video that would also include helis. Finally nice video man I’ve watched it like 3 times now because it’s really well made and good at conveying the message with examples. Hope gaijin sees the video and says yes let’s add korea
Thank you so much man, that means a ton! South Korea is probably the country I look forwards to the most for being added. As for an air focussed video I don't think I will, I simply don't have nearly enough knowledge on aircraft and I would get way too much stuff wrong. Thanks for the suggestion though, maybe I'll figure something out one day
@@Optimusprime56241 Huge shame if it will be, it deserves its own respect. We've got Germany, Japan, Italy. England, US, France and USSR. we're missing the start of it all! Poland. (isreal and sweden dont make sense)
I just noticed one vehicle on PikPikker's website that you missed, the Rotem KW2 SPAAG. It's related to the KW2 Jupiter FSV (same hull) and likely preceded development of the K30W Cheonho.
Hate how there are many unique tanks and vehicles that can be added to many of the sub-trees, but the best we get is maybe one new thing, and the rest is copy-paste.
If they add Korea to the American tree, I'm going to be so sad. I've already suffered through the Japan Tree to the type 16. Then again, I understand why exptually when it comes to the relation between the two, it can be touchy at best, attacks and boycott at worst. My hope is still Japanese sub tree or an independent one.
I think we can expect it to become a sub tree for the US--which I'm personally fine with--or else a seperate tech tree which would absolutely be the best option.
Finland doesn't have that many of their own designs I don't think. They have the Bt 42 which we have in game, and for the rest the only unique stuff I could find in a quick google search are some armored cars. If there is more stuff I'm missing do let me know though
@David_M543 patria amv theres one they could add with a fully traversible dual autoloaded mortar system for the funnies but yes theres a few dual mortar would be funny also a 30mm equiped one mabye as a squadron cehicles but its polish
I have gotten the request for a discord server before, and I'll likely make one at some point. It's just that I have no experience running a discord server, especially one with people I don't know. But idk, if I ever make one I'll let you know!
@David_M543 Creating the server itself is pretty easy, hard thing is the moderation. You could either use automod bot such as Carl bot or tell your friends about it, if you need help with it, ask away
I still don't see an issue with ROK-Japan. Britain has many of it's former allies (notably India) where they committed horrific genocides, crimes against humanity, and all the other additional aspects of colonialism. But Britain, still under the Union jack and name "Great Britain" in game, represents India, South Africa, and other former colonies. No one complained that the Jaguar or Vijayanta or T-90 Bhishma were in the British tree, as they should, it really doesn't matter and they fit there. India is in the Commonwealth, was a former colony, and has far too few unique vehicles to make a major tech tree. Similarly, these vehicles, although certainly not needed for Britain, adds variety and in the case of South African vehicles, filled in some gaps. The same applies for ROK-Japan. Thailand makes very little sense as a Japanese subtree, sure the nations were allies in WW2 but Thailand itself fills almost zero gaps. And there isn't much else you can give to Japan, they don't make much modern equipment, and other subtrees make little to no sense; the Philippines fit already in the US tree, not to mention, there's like 3 vehicles you can actually use, Taiwan already is in the China tree, same goes for Indonesia, Indochina (Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos) are all much more appropriate for the Chinese tree, being Asian Communist or former Communist nations (as the T-34 AA was a Vietnamese tank put into the Chinese tree, even though I'm sure many Vietnamese would equally not like to be part of the China tree as South Koreas in the Japanese tree, but it's where they just fit best, there's no political statement being made), Malaysia I guess is the only other option but that's a massive stretch, and if we're using the argument of Japanese colonial crimes as a reason South Korea shouldn't be added, same applies for Malaysia. So really, it just makes sense from a purely gameplay perspective. Japan is strong early to mid game, but falls off hard after WW2 in air and ground. Meanwhile, that's around when South Korea gets it's first tanks, in the form of American vehicles, and then further progressing into the modern era with it's own tech, notably it's own APCs, and the K1 and K2 tanks, as well as the K9. You also have American M47s and M48s as well as T-80Us and UKs and MP-3s. You can fill in or just compliment a lot of tanks, and fill in gaps esp, with the M48A5 and early K1s. Meanwhile in the air, instead of like the 5 jets Japanese has, you can give them ROKAF F-86s, F-5s, F-4s, F-16s, F-15Ks, and T-50. Hell, even naval, you can add ROKN FACs and small ships. This will make the Japanese tree much more flushed out and give it more vehicles after WW2 ends. And it's not like combining the JSDF and ROK Armed Forces isn't unheard of, Wargame: Reddragon had the "Blue Dragon" faction, which was, drumroll please, Korea and Japan, and it was a great deck to play with and I didn't remember Eugen's HQ burning down. Not to mention, both nations are Asian, American-aligned, capitalist democracies that, in the event of a global war, would 99.9% likely ally with each other and the US, so it's not like it's unrealistic or something. Just rename "Japan" to "Japan-Korea" and change the flag to both of them side by side if people are really gonna fuss over it that much. Idk why anyone would, after all, the Taiwanese part of the Chinese tree is under the PRC flag in game, but I digress. TL;DR: Add South Korea as a Japanese subtree and rename Japan to Japan-Korea. If Wargame can do it, no reason War Thunder can't. Edit: "Israel is also really small" 1) Where do you put them? America, France and UK are all big enough, and Israel uses vehicles from all 3 plus others plus their own domestic supply 2) Israel is so ungodly controversial that it's probably best left as it's own thing. 3) The Israeli tree sucks ass, I don't want another like it. Same goes to the Chinese tree, it's just America/Russia for a while until far down the tree, but you can't really do China any other way. Plus, I personally advocate for
Damn, you make some pretty good arguments. I agree that Korea being added to Japan really shouldn't be too controversial, as you said, in a large real world event they would likely become allies. I personally still think it would be best as it's own tech tree, again it would likely be a similair size to Israel but with a much larger variety of vehicles instead of just 50 M60's. Knowing Gaijin however, my guess would still be Korea becoming a sub tree for the US, simply because it's a way more populair nation than Japan. But again knowing Gaijin it could go every which way, but I wouldn personally not be too upset if Korea gets added to Japan.
뭔소리야 하고 놀래서 읽었는데 읽어보니깐 그럴듯하네 그런데 본인이 말했다시피 Japan-Korea같은식으로 국가 자체를 바꿔버리는 대수술을 하지않으면 분노한 한국인들에 의해서 가이진은 온갖 테러와 공격에 시달릴것임.. 그런데 또 바꾸자니 일본과 일뽕 플레이어들이 난리날 것.. 왜 멀쩡하던 독립 국가트리를 지들이 식민통치하던 나라랑 섞어버리냐고 각각 나라들을 먼저 구현하고 이후에 연합의 "선택지"를 제공한 워게임 레드드래곤과는 다른 경우라고 봄..
does north Korea and do they even have the capability to manufacture in house tanks and planes?.....I feel like north Korea would use a lot of russian tech while the south uses mostly US tech which would mean any tech tree for south/north Korea would essentially be a copy paste tree and personally I don't think we need any more copy paste.
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The United Korean Tree was passed for consideration 3-4 years ago but hopefully they will reconsider it again.
I'm afraid they likely won't. As shown in the video there are already leaks suggesting both Koreas are just going to be sub trees. But I myself absolutely agree, there'd be so much more room for unique vehicles.
No, we don't need another Israel situation
@@hans2936 A united Korea tree may actually be larger than the Israel tree.
@@hans2936 But it will not be if both Nth and Sth Korea are one tree. What this guy forgot to add is both Nth and Sth had some Japanese tanks after WW2 only used for training. So they could start at rank 1 maybe 2. There would be a way more variety of vechles though some the same but a bit different.
@@hans2936 I think the same a sub-tech tree for Japan IS the BEST
As a Korean war thunder player i’m really glad that you made this video.
When the Vidar got added to the game, i was so excited.
I wish i could see more South Korean tanks in game.
As an former soldier in Korea i can insure that Korean tech is worth playing.
Thx for having interested in our nation!
(there can be some grammer issuesin my writing but i would be thankful if you guys understand❤)
Thank you so much, that means a lot, I really hope we'll get some Korean vehicles too! (grammer looks fine to me btw😉)
솔직히 우리나라는 메인 트리에 포함되야함. 외국 전차 가득한 중국도 메인인데 한국도 있어야한다.
I think North Korea would fit pretty well as a sub tree for China, but the South absolutely not. Puting both Koreas together as a sub tree for China is about the worst option they could go for
@@David_M543 Yes you are right thanks for talking with me
언제 만들어줄지 정말 기대 됩니다. 몇년째 기다리고 있지만...몇개가 덜 나오더라도
서브트리론 안 나왔으면 하네요..
Let's hope🤞
I'm hoping for the K1 & K2 MBTs and their variants.
If or when South Korea gets added, I don't see a world where these aren't added, so I wouldn't worry👍
차라리 남북연합 테크트리를 보고 싶음
이게 아니라 서브트리라면 차라리 영원히 우리나라를 보고 싶지 않음
실제로 미국 테크트리에는 서브트리를 넣을 공간이 없기도 하고...
I agree, full tech trees for either seperate or united Korea would be so nice to see, but for whatever reason Gaijin seems to prefer to add just sub trees.
The T80UK is a command variate of the T80U. The one off prototype your thinking about is the T80UM2 with the Drozd Active Protection System
Yeah I was a bit confused about that. Another commenter already pointed that Korea never recieved these T80UK's however, so it doesn't really matter regardless. Thanks for the comment though!
16:04 this is not only an armour package. This variant of a k2 is adjusted to the requirements of the Polish Armed Forces. Hunday changed plenty of things in this model of k2: -have extra set of road wheels
- drivers position shifted to the center of the hull
-2 smaller isolated ammo rack(basically driver is squized between two ammo racks)
-korean licence variant of trophy
- additional armour in the front and sides.
If I remember correctly polish army rejected that option because:
-developing this version would essentially require designing the tank from scratch. +all tests would need to be repeated.
+the Koreans wanted us to fund their research and development work on this variant, which was intended to eventually become the K3.
Very interesting, I did mention a couple of these things (though far less detailed than you did), but in the end it was never made so I don't think it'll be added to the game. Thanks for all the info though!
@David_M543 maybe it will be made in the future when ROK will decide to replace their k2s.
Also that k2 version would be great end game tank for korean army tech tree bc it literally fix every problem that k2 have.
I agree, let's hope!
Just a minor correction, it's KAPS (Similar to Iron-Fist) not Trophy in that Preliminary K2PL / K2M model. (Images of a KAPS equipped K2 can be found be found, it's under the K2 PIP program)
However, there is a licensed Trophy VPS variant (KAPS-2) for the K2NO and the K2PL (K2EX)
@@SeGo-T The Polish Army decided to choose Trophy because kaps did not meet the requirements of the Polish Armed Forces. Additionally based on all the information that was recently leaked the ROK also considers Kaps not ready for service. This is also a reason why Hyundai proposed our army a Trophy as an alternative to kaps
The people who always complain that nations get copy paste are forgetting not every country can build thier own defense stuff and resources are limited so if the game wants to survive in the future copy paste is the only way or else they have to take world of Tanks route which is just shit in my opinion.
I agree, I'm generally not aginst copy pasted stuff, Gaijin just does it in a anoying way imo
@David_M543 yea I get what you mean the best example is India in UK.
Nicely put together video! As a South Korean, I must say that the purchase of the T-80UK is false. This was confirmed in the National Defense Spending Audits in 2002. There are some misinformation regarding the K-1 series in your video. The early K-1 ~K-1E variants sported the GPSS/GPTTS (Gen 1) thermal sights, instead of just NVD. I also want to add that the APFSDS shell (K-276) fired by all 120mm fielding K-1 variants are known to penetrate 650mm of RHA at a range of 2km. A further development, such as the K-279 shell is seen more capable than the DM63s, and a bit less capable compared to the M829A3. The K-2, being a whole new tank, has the option to equip hard-kill APS, Top Attack AT rounds, and HEAT-MP rounds that can fend itself from helicopters. The 120, L/55 gun found on the K-2 is of domestic design and production, not a copy of the Rh120 L/55. Another interesting difference between the K-1 and the K-2 is the fact that the loader is replaced with an autoloader. Some interesting variants of the K-2 are the K-2PL (export version to Poland), and the Altay tank. (export version to Turkiye)
Damn, thank you so much for all that info, I'll make sure to clarify these things in the North Korea video! I'm glad you enjoyed the video regardles
@@David_M543 @Rommotti the T-80U is the correct variant, and it was given without fee to South Korea to pay off debts incurred by the now Russian Federation during the Cold War, the BMP-3 was also given, and probably a large supply of ammunition
한국인으로써 정보들이 굉장히 정확했으며 유익했습니다. Thx for ur vids, bro Subscribed.
Thank you very much, I apreciate it man!
one thing to note about korea (both, really): we are obsessed with long range firepower.
That's just how modern combat works, or do you mean something else?
@@David_M543 I think he's trying to address the long standing meme in Korea where we went all out in making artillery, like the k9. We have about 1800 units in a small country like ours. It's like the government had some kind of pent up anger during the Korean war and decided that the one thing we lacked was firepower, albeit conventional. But, now that you mention it, its just how modern warfare works.
Aahh got ya, thanks for the heads up
If korean techtree is added in game, alot of military classified documents will be released in forums
I think that'll happen regardles haha
Thai tree for japan air... Thailand also got many ground vehicles so I'm sure that's next for japan
Quite likely they will yes, but in my personal VERY biassed opinion I think the BeNeLux should be added first, but it's always a big mistery with Gaijoobles
T-80UK and BMP-3 just russia give to korean instead of monny in 1990.
it was very good tank, and they also steel used in korea😅
Just to note Both Nth and Sth Korea did have captured Japanese tanks before the Korean war started. I don't know and don't think they where used in it as far as I know.
im pretty sure the K1 is based off the Chrysler XM1 prototype so would have a conventional engine
You should Definitely do a North Korean Tec Tree Video cause I feel that would be a neat video. 😁
Already working on it!
There are a few South Korean vehicles you missed: the KW2 with Raybolt ATGMs (not sure if this exists yet), the K311 with KP-SAM pedestal, and the KM450 with either a CS/LM5, KPV, ZPU, or ZU-23-2 anti-aircraft gun system. Note that KM450 is the export name of the K311.
I couldn't find anything on the KW2 in a quick google search, and the KM450 variants you named don't seem to be used by Korea themselves. The first K311 you named I'll definitely mention in the North Korean video, thank you for bringing light to all these vehicles!
@@David_M543 Wikipedia didn't cite anything for the KW2 IFV; however, I did find an article that stated an IFV version of the K808 Baekho was studied but it remains to be seen if it will be built. Also, I thought modifications to Korean export/license built vehicles would be fair game at this time. The weaponized KM450s are mostly technicals from Mali except for the the KPV mounted one which was seen in Sudan. I'll also note that KM450s are locally assembled in Mali and Sudan. Sudan has even made APCs/reconnaissance vehicles, the SarSar-1 and -2, based on the KM450 chassis. I would have mentioned the Sudanese Taka MRL based on the KM450 chassis that appeared at IDEX 2017, but I don't have enough information on it.
@@StoneCresent The reason I didn't really name certain vehicles is because I rather have export vehicles be in the tech tree for the country using the vehicle, this is why I for instance left out the Altay. Though I am aware that I directly contradicted this in this very video, so I will pay better atention to that in the future. Thank you for suggesting these vehicles tho, I'll have another look over them and I'll see if I can mention them upcoming video.
@@David_M543 I thought of mentioning the Altay and T-155 Fırtına too. However, they can be talked about in a separate video for Turkish vehicles that could be added to War Thunder.
After having lived in Korea for six year because my dad was a soldier in the American army I can easily say I would abandon all of my tech trees to play Korea. The Korean military from what I’ve seen is really cool and really well developed from where it started off from. It would also be really good because it provides a good mix of both sides of the Cold War plus their own unique vehicles. Korea is one of those countries that’s good at everything and bad at really nothing.
Also can you do an air video that would also include helis.
Finally nice video man I’ve watched it like 3 times now because it’s really well made and good at conveying the message with examples.
Hope gaijin sees the video and says yes let’s add korea
Thank you so much man, that means a ton! South Korea is probably the country I look forwards to the most for being added. As for an air focussed video I don't think I will, I simply don't have nearly enough knowledge on aircraft and I would get way too much stuff wrong. Thanks for the suggestion though, maybe I'll figure something out one day
ive always wanted a polish tech tree, i have no idea why they never added it
I hope they will, they have some pretty cool stuff. Poland is high on my list for countries to cover next!
Poland is likely gonna be a sub tree for Germany (the irony is kinda funny)
@@Optimusprime56241 Huge shame if it will be, it deserves its own respect.
We've got Germany, Japan, Italy. England, US, France and USSR. we're missing the start of it all! Poland. (isreal and sweden dont make sense)
@@johnt1173 gaijin already said they’re not doing anymore tech trees
@@Optimusprime56241 huge shame
I just noticed one vehicle on PikPikker's website that you missed, the Rotem KW2 SPAAG. It's related to the KW2 Jupiter FSV (same hull) and likely preceded development of the K30W Cheonho.
I think you're right, I'll do a bit more research into it and I'll clarify in the North Korea video, thank you so much for letting me know!
T-80UK is the command vehicle version of the T-80U
So I've been told, was it actually produced though?
@@David_M543 Oh sorry, after additional research, it states that only the T-80Us were imported into Korea.
Source: 2002 국정감사 국방위원회 회의록
Korea can be like israle that starts at BR 6.0 with starting with coldwar era tanks
Exactly, maybe slightly earlier if they get the M24, M4 or M36, but that is definitely how they should do it I think
How many times did you say K?
More than 4 times at least
Wake up, watch David’s new video, sleep
Imagine only waking up every 2 weeks or so haha
do you plan on making Poland or eastern block tech tree video?
Absolutely. Ultimately I want to cover every country with a notable military, and Poland is pretty high on the list!
gaijin should just add 2 seperate indavidual tech trees for the 2 koreas
Absolutely agree, that would be the best way to do it I think
Hate how there are many unique tanks and vehicles that can be added to many of the sub-trees, but the best we get is maybe one new thing, and the rest is copy-paste.
Absolutelly agree, such a waste always
Wish the devs weren’t so lazy. That would be at least 25% more fun.
Yep, they just lost all their passion. So sad seeing all that potential go to waste
If they add Korea to the American tree, I'm going to be so sad.
I've already suffered through the Japan Tree to the type 16.
Then again, I understand why exptually when it comes to the relation between the two, it can be touchy at best, attacks and boycott at worst.
My hope is still Japanese sub tree or an independent one.
I think we can expect it to become a sub tree for the US--which I'm personally fine with--or else a seperate tech tree which would absolutely be the best option.
Can you make a vehicles we can see for norway and denmark when they get added to sweden ?
Will definitely do that in the future, yes
10:59
its not baiho
its more like bee-ho
Thank you for letting me know, it is spelled "Biho" hence the pronunciation.
Could you make a video about a Iranian tech tree please
Added to the list, thank you for the suggestion!
@David_M543 thanks 😊
Gsijin still hadnt added any domestic vehicles fir finland
Finland doesn't have that many of their own designs I don't think. They have the Bt 42 which we have in game, and for the rest the only unique stuff I could find in a quick google search are some armored cars. If there is more stuff I'm missing do let me know though
@David_M543 patria amv theres one they could add with a fully traversible dual autoloaded mortar system for the funnies but yes theres a few dual mortar would be funny also a 30mm equiped one mabye as a squadron cehicles but its polish
@@David_M543 also the itpsv90 but on a t55am for reasons i guess
@@David_M543 xa 180 likely with a recoilles or the bill
I will research Finland further once I get around to making a full video on them, but thank you for all the vehicle suggestions!
New tree poland,yugoslavija,slovakia,Ukrajin..
Apparently Gaijin doesn't want to add Ukrainian vehicles, for one reason or another🤷♂️
@David_M543 ok not ukrani bat like the Balkana in the game
Would definitely be cool to see, but I don't think they have very populair vehicles so I don't think they'll be added any time soon I'm afraid.
Can you do turkish tech tree pls
Will definitely do at some point
진짜 나오면 좋겠지만 그럴일이 없음ㅠ
I think (South) Korean vehicles will inevitably be released, though likely just as a sub tree
Poland Sub-Tree
I'd love to see that, they have some pretty interesting vehicles.
Imo ex soviet satelite states should have their own tree insead of speparate subtrees
@M3rl1n177 I disagree. Cause Poland has Abrams A2SEPv3, Leopard 2A5-7s, T80s and 72s, and K2s.
@@Epsilon434 Poland dont have t80. Poland have modernised t72am1/twardy wich are more like t90a. Also we use leo2a4/5 and leo2pl, m1a1sa and sepv3.
Rn I got math, fuck that, time to watch one of your videos lol
I'll allow it as long you get back to work afterwards
@@David_M543 We watched a movie, this is better
@@David_M543 Also I wanted to ask, do you have any sort of community server, if no, did you think about creating one?
I have gotten the request for a discord server before, and I'll likely make one at some point. It's just that I have no experience running a discord server, especially one with people I don't know. But idk, if I ever make one I'll let you know!
@David_M543 Creating the server itself is pretty easy, hard thing is the moderation. You could either use automod bot such as Carl bot or tell your friends about it, if you need help with it, ask away
US TT let's fucking go
Can't wait for the US to get added to game🙏🙏🙏
Koreans in naming their war vehicles, K1, K2 ,K3 ,K4, K5 forget abt the cool names just put K and numbers
Yeah, silly Koreans. Anyway, I love my American M1
Well, it translates into "stupid" in Korean. Is this a joke?
@@mannerspeakingDay1 What is translated exactly?
@@mannerspeakingDay1 드립임 갑분싸만들기ㄴ
제발 만들어다오
As i know Korean t-80uk Dont have red eye😢😢
Very sad
South Korea tt in wt will be huge update entire game time
True, would be so cool to see!
Bro I’m Korean live in Aus but United Korean is should be not happen and I don’t want it 😂
I think it could happen, but seperate trees would definitely be best yes
진짜 한국인 맞음...?
@@tainlessolivine5782 맞는데여
could be licensing issue our country is a bit of a mega capitalist than american it self
lol korean wheeled Namer
k1a1 -> k1e1
0:53 From 1910-1945 Korea was a Japanese province.
그럼 영국은 세계 30%를 자국 트리에 위치시킬 수 있습니다
I think he just meant that at that time Korea only had Japanese vehicles. Still, I don't think it would make for a very interesting low tier imo.
그냥 한국트리 전차 k2는
에이브차체에다 르끌레르 포탑붙인거라 복붙ㅆㄱㄴ
I still don't see an issue with ROK-Japan. Britain has many of it's former allies (notably India) where they committed horrific genocides, crimes against humanity, and all the other additional aspects of colonialism. But Britain, still under the Union jack and name "Great Britain" in game, represents India, South Africa, and other former colonies. No one complained that the Jaguar or Vijayanta or T-90 Bhishma were in the British tree, as they should, it really doesn't matter and they fit there. India is in the Commonwealth, was a former colony, and has far too few unique vehicles to make a major tech tree. Similarly, these vehicles, although certainly not needed for Britain, adds variety and in the case of South African vehicles, filled in some gaps. The same applies for ROK-Japan. Thailand makes very little sense as a Japanese subtree, sure the nations were allies in WW2 but Thailand itself fills almost zero gaps. And there isn't much else you can give to Japan, they don't make much modern equipment, and other subtrees make little to no sense; the Philippines fit already in the US tree, not to mention, there's like 3 vehicles you can actually use, Taiwan already is in the China tree, same goes for Indonesia, Indochina (Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos) are all much more appropriate for the Chinese tree, being Asian Communist or former Communist nations (as the T-34 AA was a Vietnamese tank put into the Chinese tree, even though I'm sure many Vietnamese would equally not like to be part of the China tree as South Koreas in the Japanese tree, but it's where they just fit best, there's no political statement being made), Malaysia I guess is the only other option but that's a massive stretch, and if we're using the argument of Japanese colonial crimes as a reason South Korea shouldn't be added, same applies for Malaysia. So really, it just makes sense from a purely gameplay perspective. Japan is strong early to mid game, but falls off hard after WW2 in air and ground. Meanwhile, that's around when South Korea gets it's first tanks, in the form of American vehicles, and then further progressing into the modern era with it's own tech, notably it's own APCs, and the K1 and K2 tanks, as well as the K9. You also have American M47s and M48s as well as T-80Us and UKs and MP-3s. You can fill in or just compliment a lot of tanks, and fill in gaps esp, with the M48A5 and early K1s. Meanwhile in the air, instead of like the 5 jets Japanese has, you can give them ROKAF F-86s, F-5s, F-4s, F-16s, F-15Ks, and T-50. Hell, even naval, you can add ROKN FACs and small ships. This will make the Japanese tree much more flushed out and give it more vehicles after WW2 ends. And it's not like combining the JSDF and ROK Armed Forces isn't unheard of, Wargame: Reddragon had the "Blue Dragon" faction, which was, drumroll please, Korea and Japan, and it was a great deck to play with and I didn't remember Eugen's HQ burning down. Not to mention, both nations are Asian, American-aligned, capitalist democracies that, in the event of a global war, would 99.9% likely ally with each other and the US, so it's not like it's unrealistic or something. Just rename "Japan" to "Japan-Korea" and change the flag to both of them side by side if people are really gonna fuss over it that much. Idk why anyone would, after all, the Taiwanese part of the Chinese tree is under the PRC flag in game, but I digress.
TL;DR: Add South Korea as a Japanese subtree and rename Japan to Japan-Korea. If Wargame can do it, no reason War Thunder can't.
Edit: "Israel is also really small"
1) Where do you put them? America, France and UK are all big enough, and Israel uses vehicles from all 3 plus others plus their own domestic supply
2) Israel is so ungodly controversial that it's probably best left as it's own thing.
3) The Israeli tree sucks ass, I don't want another like it. Same goes to the Chinese tree, it's just America/Russia for a while until far down the tree, but you can't really do China any other way. Plus, I personally advocate for
Damn, you make some pretty good arguments. I agree that Korea being added to Japan really shouldn't be too controversial, as you said, in a large real world event they would likely become allies. I personally still think it would be best as it's own tech tree, again it would likely be a similair size to Israel but with a much larger variety of vehicles instead of just 50 M60's. Knowing Gaijin however, my guess would still be Korea becoming a sub tree for the US, simply because it's a way more populair nation than Japan. But again knowing Gaijin it could go every which way, but I wouldn personally not be too upset if Korea gets added to Japan.
뭔소리야 하고 놀래서 읽었는데 읽어보니깐 그럴듯하네
그런데 본인이 말했다시피 Japan-Korea같은식으로 국가 자체를 바꿔버리는 대수술을 하지않으면
분노한 한국인들에 의해서 가이진은 온갖 테러와 공격에 시달릴것임..
그런데 또 바꾸자니 일본과 일뽕 플레이어들이 난리날 것.. 왜 멀쩡하던 독립 국가트리를 지들이 식민통치하던 나라랑 섞어버리냐고
각각 나라들을 먼저 구현하고 이후에 연합의 "선택지"를 제공한 워게임 레드드래곤과는 다른 경우라고 봄..
does north Korea and do they even have the capability to manufacture in house tanks and planes?.....I feel like north Korea would use a lot of russian tech while the south uses mostly US tech which would mean any tech tree for south/north Korea would essentially be a copy paste tree and personally I don't think we need any more copy paste.
Admittedly they do have a good amount of Soviet stuff yes, but they have more than enough unique vehicles for at least a sub tree I think
남북통일트리 출시안할거면 걍 출시하지마라 가이진
I'm afraid they wont make it a seperate tech tree, but you never know with Gaijin
:O am first :D
Good job, I'm proud of you