A common misconception around nukes is that if one is detonated alone it means nuclear winter and crazy radiatin. Ever since 1945, humanity has conducted a total of 2121 nuclear tests with 2476 devices. With the sum of the exposions accounting for 545 megatonns. Nuclear winter and other long term side effects would not matter in the slightest if the nukes were to be used efficiently.
Radiation is not that widespread I think it's because nukes were detonated airburst and not when they hit the ground this reduces the radioactiveness but increases the firepower of the nuke this is why they could rebuilt Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Plus nuclear winter isn't about the radiation. The subsequent fires that will come after the detonation is what would do the most impact to the environment as a whole, not the radiation itself (which is usually dispersed enough for it to be actually negligible)
@@tsarbombawithinternetconne875 yeah most people don’t know that nuclear winter would be due to the ashes and dust from fires that are to come after a nuclear war and the ash and dust would block out the sun which causes nuclear winter
You can take a larger number, the nuclear bombs of today are not the same as those of the 1950s, a nuclear winter is still possible but very small and the damage would also be controllable.
@leikesdark Then you could just use cold war nukes which russia probably has lots of, considering the huge amounts of nuclear testing the cold war saw, now winter will be coming anytime soon.
9:19 in modern times the government would enter diplomatic, talks with Eren Yeager making a deal, saying that if he even starts the rumbling all the countries that have nuclear weapons will just nuke Eldon. Plus nuclear winter wouldn’t be that big of a deal for the entire world concerning the country is an island nation in the middle of nowhere.
@@Spino2722 there's12,100 nuclear warheads on planet earht you only need 5 to take down the rumbling the frist one is for the wall titians the rest is for anything that lives and the last 2 are for Eren to make sure hes dead like for good and dsoen't turn into a titian shift again
By 1945 the Rumbling is obsolete, and no, not because of nukes but because of bomber capabilities. Given Eren got deleted by a sword, I'd say you need one bunker buster. Also, the arvument Ymir can just create infinite indestructible titans out of think air isnt canon. The author confirmed the wall titans had humans in them, so she'd need Eldians to create them. Without Eldians on earth, she'd basically be stuck with what she has.
There are about a million or so Eldians worldwide, 750k on Paradis, hundreds of thousands in ghettos in various countries. If Ymir wanted, she would have another 1 million colossal titans. But overall it won't change anything, there's enough firepower for everyone. Although if you take logistics into account, the titans have a chance to destroy it faster than they'll be destroyed. And Eren had to stay safe on the island, in a place where no one could fly.
they needed precision guided bombs to delete either one of them, and WW2 era happened to have the first one, the german Fritz X i can see a collaboration between germany and the US to mount Fritz X onto a B29 and unleashing them into eren and ymir
the ww1 part is somewhat flawed, chemical weapons do damage by contact, chlorine, along with phosgene, has been known to do damage in the skin, eyes, and other parts of the body, not to mention the usage of mustard gas which deals more damage on the skin, a good demonstrator is tear gas, which can irritate on contact. But the most important parts of 1914 armies(except for machine guns) are the siege cannons and the heavy artillery. I think the strategy used will be to lure the titans inland and wage a protracted layered defence, using the air services to drop bombs and the artillery to hammer on the titans, the usage of telephones, bicycles, and runners will be critical, and the initial strategy of all the large armies in europe is a mobile warfare so they may have difficulty in adapting to a more static strategy, but they can act well on counter attacks.
And the whole point of AoT's last arc was that Titans are becoming obsolete with the introduction of aerial warfare (hot air balloons and airplanes). That means ww1 tech could potentially slow down the Rumbling or even stop it.
you are aware Chemical weapons wont do crap to the titans? to kill a titan you have to hit the nape if not disintegrate it and theres no way you can lure Wall titans they'll just keep marching
@@TheRobloxTheorists0 they can do something, it's known that gas weapons(i am excluding biological weapons since they aren't that used much) can do chemical burns by reaction, even if you need a nape to kill the thing, it can burn the skin, and will go through the skin if wounded and will definitely be enough to weaken a titan, or kill it given enough time. And you can lure titans, it's known they like areas with large people, i mean, that's how they've been operating since the start.
Even a single lancaster with a Grand Slam (which was 22,000lb in weight and designed to penetrate underground then detonate) would be enough to stop the rumbling. Yeager aint doing shit against 9,500lb of pure Torpex
Dude History still has a lot of writing flaws and plotholes, what about people that had magic, Like the protagonist of the New Testament saga? Where did the magic go? And most important theres a debate going around that the New Testament saga was non Canon but others think it was canon.
That random french guy can topple eren rumbling he tamed Russia like it was nothing he was a force of nature bruv stop comparing it to him 1 conquered half of europe other is some fictional bs
@nonagon1299 nah, new testament gotta be canon. like it perfectly connects to the old testament, you can't just throw away something that is well written and just to make it filler.
I would say after WWII the survivability of humanity goes up considerably. 1950's would still be a problem but I would say by the late 60s and after the world at large would likely be able to survive the titans with damage from them becoming less severe as you go through each decade. As of now in 2024-25 its likely all the titans could mostly be wiped out before they did any true considerable damage world wide.
In the aftermath of WW2? The world is at peak production rates, has a shitload of material produced, in production and planned. Just as a note, in 1944 the US alone produced a total of 75.000 combat aircraft. A late years of the war scenario or a postwar scenario where the rumbling takes place it justs destroys the best chance for the titan attack, because in a 1939 scenario what the world would lack is enough time to gear up...but if you are already geared up and pumping war material like crazy, it goes very bad for the rumbling. Also very fast deployment of Fritz-X type of bombs(a guided german antiship bomb made by the germans late in the war) or mass use of Okha (literal purpose built kamikaze rocket planes with a warhead on the tip) like devices will make targeted attacks possible and very deadly. True, ground troops would have limited value (they will still do something), but at the point of the vulnerability to attack the nape of the neck is discovered (and it will be discovered), planes with rockets and dive bombers for example will have a field day. On the water is kinda the same story. While battleships , specially fast ones will be deadly (able to keep distance and unleash a pounding for hours with high-weight caliber rounds), the kicker is the air arm of the navies. In 1945 USa had 99 aircraft carriers of all types, with many of them able to go faster than what a horse can gallop (so.....faster than titans even on land), that means each carrier will be able to attack for days, retreat, rearm, come back, repeat. I don't know, I mean, any WW2 point after 1943 (including inmediate postwar years) where the scale of the conflict soared to it's final heights is a bad point for the rumbling, too much shit capable of killing titans already around.
@@KarolusTemplareV True but you forget the fact that much of the weaponry of WWII is not as accurate, and although they could likely achieve a victory it would be quite costly. Especially as range would still be an issue, although I'm sure its possible given your assessment a victory is achievable. Okay lets see what we have for WWII-Post War Now we have to assume that the world is aware of the rumbling on its way and for the time being unified as a united front against this severe threat. The US although the first atomic capable country is unlikely to have enough bombs to be worth while in this fight so everything will be mostly what the US and other countries had already at their disposal and anything that was already coming off the assembly lines. I'm going to add the first jet fighters as well. So lets see. Several countries were devastated during the war. China Japan Germany Parts of Russia England. Italy Parts of Northern Africa Then there is the fact that hundreds of other existing nations scattered around have little to no appreciable military except anything that was probably WWI to pre- wwII Lets assume that they will be unable to provide much help well except Russia cause they don't know better, and the devastated axis powers and allied powers sends their technology and research to be reverse engineered by the US and or built so they can get stuff in production to combat the new threat. The US is unlikely to use most of the conventional equipment provided to them. and will likely send its new allies its own equipment with a few of the ones they were given to build being chosen.. I could see the ME-262, The Golster Meteor, and the Shooting Star popping up. All jet fighters, with perhaps even the German bomber as well. They likely will provide use in the later campaign of the conflict as the titans reaches developed countries or areas that are deemed suitable. Conventional fighters however will likely still provide the bulk of the fighter due to practical reasons. The main issue here would be range. Range will be necessary for the united forces to kill as many titans as possible. Right away the use of high level bombing will be necessary. Bombers of any type but especially the long range high level bombers will be the best chance of wiping out a good number of titans. Given these monsters could tank a sizable number of weapons and keep moving. Multiple runs will be needed until its determined what is the best weapons necessary. True there is a ungodly amount of bombers in this era. They can only hold so much. medium range bombers and light bombers will likely not be needed unless they can perform other roles that can be useful. The Fritz-X anti-Ship bomb could be used. Its essentially a guided bomb. If dropped at a appreciable height and guided smoothly it should be able to reach potential targets. That being said it wasn't that accurate and early devices used to guide it might suffer severe interference with the sheer amount of heat the Titans could be producing. Perhaps if given a way to explode when it detects its target could be done. Although this would limit its effectiveness from making direct kills and more for maiming. Hmm perhaps using them to maim and disable titans in the front of the horde to trip and make other titans easier targets. A bomb that could be quite useful would be the earthquake bombs the British had. Massive bunker busters, that if also given a way to explode near the titans could be useful in tearing them apart. High level bombers could very well deploy them. Fighter bombers and heavy fighters and Jet fighters could be useful in this fight. Their weaponry should punch through titans fairly well. If they can get behind them and hit the necks even better. The only problem is they are likely the ones that has to get close and its possible some might not survive the severe heat especially the tempermental early jet engines. The V-1 and the V-2 will likely see heavy use. The V-1 the father of the Cruise missile will probably be heavily used. given proper cordinates and timing the V-1 could slam into titan groups and maul them. I could see this weapons being increasingly used on the Titans due to being able to be launched from a distance. They might have different engines however or refinement. The V-2 could also be seen as being used. heavier payload it could be used to devastate multiple titans. Although accuracy would be abysmal it could be fired into the general area and its explosion disabling titans or killing a couple. artillery and tanks. These can shoot for several miles, so they can help in the conflict however their roles would be is for them to finish off fallen titans and or provide a defense of towns, and cities. Most of the artillery in WWII by wars end are perfectly capable of wiping out titans. The issue would be in how they would best be deployed and that likely would be as far as from the front line as possible except for tanks and other mobile pieces that can shoot and run. One giant issues is titans are fast. they walked at a pace of around 30 to 31 miles. Doesn't seem like much until you realize that most tanks in that era were not that fast either. The best tactic would be is for them to create holes in the titan line and aid the bombers and long range fire. Hoping to create gaps that could be safe for the tanks and artillery to get through and perhaps cause damage on the otherside. Titans were hellishly fast in water. Best course for naval vessels would be is to set up massive mine fields in the path of titans and depth charges. Also remaining in deep water so as to avoid the tsunami sized waves as the titans breached the coast. With the right coordination its likely that humanity can survive with WWII era weaponry, however its likely large sections of Earth will be devastated by the rumbling, with still millions dead, especially in nations that didn't have the more modern weapons or were sacrificed to be killzones. One problem however remains and that will be Eren. If humanity can break his front of the titan horde they could have a go at trying to eliminate him. That being said his titan is a armored beast that likely could tank the sizable majority of human weaponry. A combined assault will be needed to see if breaking something is possible. High level bombing with heavy munitions, rocket attacks by aircraft, and artillery barrage will be needed to see what can crack. Sucide attacks likely could be useful as well given that they would likely be more accurate than conventional weapons. In the end the best course of action would be in waiting and then deploying a atomic bomb in a V-2 and slapping Eren in the face with it.
Artillery that is ineffective against Titans uses HE, that is, high explosive ammunition, so its main use is soft targets and area damage, but do not forget that armor-piercing ammunition will be used against such a threat in real life.
My brother in christ made no attemptto think countries would begin mobilizing and specializing industrial production for weapons effective against Titans
Yeah... The Modern Part is unrealistic. There's this thing called " The Soviet Union " and at its peak, it would obliterate the Rumbling Alone (Considering this is 70s-80s USSR). The Nuclear Bombs, the Vast quantities of jets, tanks and artillery, submarines and the troops they would have.
Not to mention body armor, night vision goggles, armor piercing ammo, Helicopters, and the United States and China and UK all being willing to stop the Rumbling
10:03 if a singkle one of those small rockets is enough to kill one of those titans, then ww2 would have been able to wipe out all of the titans, most fighters were able to carry rockets, strike aircraft or heavy fighters even more rockets or bombs
The ww2 one you could have mentioned the schwerer gustav in real life it wasn't effective but in a situation like this I see it having a significant impact.
I doubt it, only two Schwerer Gustavs were built in the entire war and it was only able to fire around 15 rounds a day with extremely limited mobility. Best case scenario, the blast from one shell might kill two colossal titans at the same time, but that’s it.
I think you got the land numbers in 1939 wrong. We only ever see high explosive rounds used against the titans but I would imagine armor piercing high explosive rounds would have a greater effect since they could get through pretty much any armor the titans had. Most countries had access to this. The problem would be the titans movement speed which would trample artillery positions.
Not to mention possibly the APDS rounds from a British 17 pdr, which could penetrate shitloads of armour. Also the statement that Germany had way more firepower than other countries is so wrong… The British navy was split into three fronts, yet held against the Japanese, Italian, and German navies for years.
"Germany's firepower far exceeded that of other countries" bro forgot the USSR which had better artillery than Germany even before WW2 and in far greater numbers
And it’s not even true for most of their weapons, Germany only really had the 88 as super effective all rounder gun, the 75 was specialized into a tank killer so not much bursting going on in the titans to actually hit their weak points lol
@@poil8351Imma tell a story about those things.When Soviets came to Yugoslavia,by the end of the war to help the Partisans liberate, partisans were in one battle trying to take some fortress around city of Sombor but machine gun would gun them down before they could cross to other side.Then soviets came with couple Katyusha trucks and said:"Alright that is enough stop getting your men killed" fired them and leveled down whole fortress to the ground
Yes, we saw that a Colossal transformation destroyed Eren's Founding Titan. The A-Bomb will most likely pulverise him from existence, ending the Rumbling.
Well I think the 1939 was downplayed a lot, sure on land, the military doesn’t stand much of a chance, however at sea, you only mentioned the France battleships, why not mention the other far more powerful monsters? Like the Bismarck or Yamato or Iowa. Also German produced around 118000 planes while Japan produced around 72000, tho these are rough estimates, America produced 300000+ alone so I feel like the numbers of planes are down played a lot. Other comments also mentioned battleships like French dunkerque, but stepping aside from battleships, resource management is also very important, Japan and Germany didnt had the best geographical position but with the aid of the allies like Soviet, America, or even China with its massive land area. The war between Titans will be very tough but not impossible.
the Yamato class are launched in 1941, and French battleships are a ok average metric, the ships you mentioned are the exceptions, not the rule on 1939 battleships
@@perlasandoval7883 alright sure that’s true, many of those super powerful battleships were build after 1939, but the numbers are a little inaccurate that’s all I have to nitpick about
If Titans would appear, the world will atleast be united to destroy the Titans. This means Germany can have access to materials and help from The Allied nations to develope and produce more weapons such the Schwere Gustav and other wonder weapons. You also have to consider the industrial capacity of certain nations such as the US and USSR.
You forgot to mention Zeke's transformation, which wiped out Marley's airships. He could deal severe damage to World War II planes and even take down dozens of modern fighter jets.
The WHOLE REASON that Eren started the rumbling when he did was because he KNEW that newer technology was starting to become more powerful than the titans, making the titans obsolete. They had roughly WW1 era tech when the rumbling started. I would say any tech from WW2 or newer would be able to defeat the rumbling.
You are forgetting the fact that these titans are made of soft flesh and muscle tissue with exposed weak spots the world in 1939-1945 would DECIMATE the rumbling, in the show I have reason to believe that they have high explosives loaded into their numerous weapons which are not effective at all against heavy armour, however the world in this era would simply load armour piercing high explosive, this round penetrates the target and then detonates causing catastrophic damage to the target. Also bombers specifically British bombers mainly the lancaster were retro fitted to carry a 22,000lb "grand slam" bomb that was able to Penetrate MOUNTAINS.
Yeah no....we could nuke the rumbling (Modern tech vs Rumbling). Eldia is on Madagascar canonically (the AOT world is ours just inverted) so 3 or 4 nukes against the rumbling as it starts (and trust me WE WOULD KNOW IF IT STARTED) and it's over like that. First we would prob try to negotiate with Eren to save Eldia and it's people....then somebody (probably Russia given it's leader) would nuke Eldia as Eren would be like "NoOOoO hUMan bAd"....boom, rumbling dealt with. The Nuclear Winter after wouldn't even be that bad given that it would be isolated to just Eldia because lord knows the USA, UK, and other world powers would NOT let the rumbling even get OFF the island. But fine, say we couldn't use nukes....the amount of sheer Daka (Ork word for firepower) the USA can output ALONE is astronomical....we would only need 1 or 2 aircraft carriers and boom....rumbling over.
i love that the only downside of nukes in theese videos is that they might kill everyone other than the guy theyre fighting aswell theyre just that strong
WW2 era had the first guided glide bomb, the German Fritz X mounted on some bomber, if the nations knows to target either Eren or Ymir they wouldve used the Fritz X against those two specifically, cause unlike regular bombs, these one were radio guided and were armor piercing bombs that was designed to pierce through ship armor and i imagine they wouldnt have much difficulty piercing titan armors as well
For the WW1 scenario, I would agree with the result. For the WW2 scenario, the world’s armies would probably be sufficient to defeat all of the titans. We need to keep note that the US had already been working on the atomic bomb before it joined WW2 and it would more than likely have been produced faster if the Titans appeared in the middle of WW2. The sheer number of warships, artillery and tanks are enough to easily kill titans with a bombardment of various shells. Non-bomber aircraft can easily perform dive bomb attacks and slowly take out the titans. Those forces should stall for long enough for the atomic bomb to be mass produced and win the war. Note that nuclear winter will most likely not happen as the bombs dropped in WW2 are atom bombs which are thousands of times weaker than the currently used thermonuclear bombs. WW2 era would win but at a huge cost similar or even surpassing the losses of the real timeline. Current day is a joke. Warships fire from 100km+, aircraft fire from 100km+, tanks are just as fast as the titans can are very accurate, teams with ATGMs could get decently close and kill a few, rocket systems and long range artillery far and go to a new position, and not to mention the range of ICBMs like the Minuteman lll and Topol M being above 6000km. Modern day would be more worried about the costs than the war itself
And also nazi Germany was also working on nuclear research, they are the first one who discovered it, n*zi germany not able to develop nuclear weapons because Adolf Hitler have lack of interest in developing nukes & focused on developing tanks & aircrafts instead.
@@n3b954 AH was not the sole reason why they failed. The german scientists who worked on the project had difficulty in the project. Firstly they could not achieve a successful chain reaction needed for the big boom and acquiring key ingredients such as heavy water and uranium were not easy not while the RN rules the sea and USAF rules the sky thats why by 1941 it was decided by everyone including AH that the nuke program would be in low priority. Thats why when the leaders of the german nuke program such as Heisenberg heard about hiroshima, they were truly shocked. They truly believed that the nukes werent possible until 2 decades later but the allied did it in just 3 years.
The whole “modern military would’ve decimated the rumbling” is stupid as if it wasn’t obvious enough. If you actually watched AOT then you should’ve know that titans slowly becoming obsolete against modern warfare and it was brought up pretty early in season 4 .what people forget is that the rumbling is a controlled large scale weapon, you doesn’t need it to decimate nations just for it to decimate nations and humanity just for it to be useful, you can just use 30-40 titans one at a time to destroy fleets or clearing coastal defenses to make way for your marines to make an amphibious landing.
The problem is, Paradis Island doesn't have the capability to wage a large-scale war. Even their more advanced weapons are stolen and reverse-engineered from Marley.
I feel as though that this guy is underestimating the real world, if we say that this invasion starts from Madagascar because if you look at a map of AOT Paradise Island is literally Madagascar. That would still give time for every world power to respond and to assess the threat. I think once they see the damage being done to Africa, they'd either try to join together to stop this threat. Or enter talks with Eren. I forgot to mention but I'm talking about 1930s-40s world btw. Also my guy is woefully highballing bomber numbers. WW2 tanks often had pretty high caliber guns meant for piercing instead of the general high explosive shells that we see used by Marley in the show, now once the world learns of the titan's weak point I feel as though it would be a slaughter. Also by 1945 the titans are done for because, let's just say here comes a second sun. WW2 fighter planes could carry some small bombs, their guns would be effective at at least slowing down titans if not outright killing them. Also one thing about AOT is that the author kinda is bad at showing accurate scaling, this is most prevalant when Armin in Colossal Titan form steps of a battleship and it seems to be the size of his foot. If we assume that the battleships of the show are based off either pre-dreadnought battleships or dreadnoughts, then even Armin would be of similar size to them. Taking that into account and the fact that by the 1930s-40s battleships had grown to massive proportions and that were much faster than their predecessors, yeah idk if Titans would really dominate against them. The water vapour danger is still present however, just not as big if we consider accurate scaling.
Ok well in modern times we instantly nuke any exoplanet anomalies that are not our "friendly" aliens. Their are unclassified documents that describe our procedures for doing so. Like we literally laser asteroids to dust for fun.
The part of ww2 is not so accurate, you're not considering a lot of things about Germany and Great Britain, the germans had the super wepons v1, v2, and maybe we can consider the v3, also they had the Schwerer Gustav (a giant piece of artillery with a 800mm cannon) Imagining that 1000 pounds of TNT can take down a titan, these wepons would kill more than 69.336,6 titans. The Britishs had the "tall boy" (a 12.000 pounds bomb) killing around 10.200 other titans. Just these things would kill more than 79.536,6, sorry if my english had some mistakes, it isn't my main language.
The gustav took 4days to assemble since it couldnt move on its own and also it had to get its own special rail for it to even be able to be asembled. The v1 was terribly inacurate and the v2 was very expensive,the v3 took time to build and was an entire underground instalation,maybe the v4 would be better.
Wehraboo behaviour, the v rockets were highly innacurate, the gustav was a railway gun that required an entire division guarding it, the construction of rail to aim and the switch of the cannon every few shots
a few nukes won't cause a nuclear winter. Vaporising the entirety of the titans won't cause a nuclear winter. It's only a *theorized* effect of nearly all the US and the Soviet nuclear arsenal being used within a short period of time. Do you know how many nuclear tests have been carried out by world powers? During the cold war, an average of 3 nuclear weapons were detonated per month.
If he took 1919 or some the period before the battle of london in ww1 or 1942-43's world industrial power. The giants are so dead. In aot, the humans lost because they did not grew an airforce, ironically because they used titans as tactical and strategic bombs. Big war behemonths like the airship and dreadnoughts could easily destroy titans. The ships in aot fired way too late. A 200-300mm sized gun could fire way earlier than that.
According to Oxford dictionary, a missle is "an object which is forcibly propelled at a target, either by hand or from a mechanical weapon." You can throw your phone and fire a missle, you can shoot a gun and also fire a missle, you can fire a guided rocket and that is also a missle. Also navys used the world missle to describe naval projecticles before guided rocket based missles were invented
that weakpoint on the back of the neck is non-negotiable to the titans, which pretty much means that as soon as word gets out that they die if you hit the back of their neck they are preeeeety much gonna fall like wheat to any random ass [farmer with a gun] that's scattered all over the countryside across most of the world let alone large cities and organized militaries. global information infrastructure in ww1 was such a colossal shitstorm that they might actually still fail ESPECIALLY with the near universal anti-information culture they had going on but even just a couple years into ww1 when so much of that power structure had been eroded they would likely win and by the time you get to WW2 it's pretty much a given, let alone any time after the internet is an actual present [thing].
I dont think the Richelieu is a good benchmark for ww2 era battleships, considering that ww2 era battleships ranged from obsolete floating steel hunks to the largest gun platform ever built. But I think that the US and UK mass producing Iowa-class and Yamato-class battleships would just be GG for any titans daring to try their luck. Not to mention, I dont think Eren is stopping the US from just nuking him after all, they had 2 bombs during the war.
Thinking that the rest of the world had twice the amount of planes than the great powers is hilarious let me ask um what is this rest of the world you speak of
Well, in ww2, depend if you take evrything because the German had a 800mm railway artillery, the B29 with nukes, the me262 first jet fighter with 24 rockets, the Yamato battleship and so much more
Gustav cannons are wasteful machines. Sure they have the firepower but reloading those things are painful af not to mention they waste so many materials
btw modern nukes disintegrate every thing and not have that bad of t nuclear fallout because they are a different kind then older ones and are all stronger blasts though and considering the fact calloses titans are just bones and muscles it would probably take about 500. considering the fact they have such a large blast radius and they would strategically attack when the titans are in the water it would not affect civilians as much. and we have WARSHIPS with devastating 30mm to 85mm auto cannons we could just aim for there head and kill most in a week. plus if you ask what if there on land well indirect fire.
They wouldn't even lift their own weight due to gravity by Square-cube law and the heat from their muscle alone could fry everything from within. Real world Coalition force knows that because they have physicist and biologist, so no wasted munitions could be thrown to the "Titans". Eren could also die as wells as other transformation Titans, because faster cell growth in achieving Titan like size increases the chance of cancer, so hypothetically they would die in cancer before even reaching full transformation. Transformation itself also is not possible as generating new cells from nothing is pure BS. "Real world" would sit down and clown that asshole.
Yep The entire point of Aot that Titan is so Obsolete even in that timeline. If it's modern times, A single guided missile From a su-57 or F-22 is enough. Heck use the fucking MOBA.
One simple saturation bombing to the Founding will end the Rumbling lmao. The Titans don't have good AA capability (with only AA defense being Zeke and Bow-armed Warhammers)
Everyone here is talking about weapons. The length of the wall is actually 2733km (2.733 million meters). If you don't believe me just do the calculations yourself
Dude you know nothing about warfare they're something called war production and many other things? Like strategy tactics airplanes geography caves swamp mountains Ww1 people will easily win because they would just use geography and trap to ske out 100000 tians that's it
wouldnt say in the cold war era either one of the major powers try to sway eldia on their side? there was room for diplomacy until the plan was sabotaged by eren, maybe a country like ussr might gurantee Eldia's independence in exchange for strategic resources and titan research, moreover since the titans are basically magic, there is no way of identifying an eldian sleeper agent, and with the powers of the founding titan, its a bit of a stretch, but what if eren could turn these sleeper agents to colossal titans, you basically get suicide bombers but with tactical nukes
@@matthewjones39 he talks about giant foot fetishes and weird ass fantasies you see in deviantart I haven't you see how crazy and deranged deviantart comments are?
I don't think we're taking into consideration how fast the Rumbling is. It took Europe at minimum weeks to transport a bunch of equipment to Ukraine. The Rumbling took three days to get done, that's only enough time for America to mobilize a few Naval fleets to protect the US while Europe and Asia and every other continent gets destroyed.
Then the speed is not consistent with the anime, you literally see them probably going 40-50mph at most, which obviously isn't enough to cover even a single semi big-sized country in 3 days. Also, dealing with walking meats with no real offensive capabilites is different than dealing with weapons that could easily kill you. Considering a single capable modern bomber could bring eren down, not much would've been stomped. And the thing about stomping is that they come to YOU, so all people would really need is to man the guns and wait
Airpower exists, it's much faster to mobilize and strike with it when compared to sending ground equipment to a foreign nation whose logistics are under attack.
It feels like you are not considering a lot about the specifics of the Titans themselves. Some of their basic abilities render a significant chunk of the weapons useless. And for those that work, they need to hit a very specific area.
this. Even with our modern world most of our weapons are simply not made to fight titans, since nothing IRL behaves the same way as a titan's body (extremely large but soft target with barely anything vital in it). Most ammunition meant to pierce armor then detonate inside a vehicle would likely pierce through your average titan without dealing any meaningful damage along the way. Meanign the titans would have an advantage early on, until the world's power adapt to this new form of target. Shells and missiles are a precise science always means for a specific formof target after all
@thorveim1174 Yeah. The vast majority of anything lesser than a MBT tank cannon won't even be able to penetrate or damage the Titan. And the 50-60m titans are too big for the damage of the cannon to be meaningful. And because it is not the very specific tiny weakness in hard to hit place deep within their hardened flesh, they will regenerate quickly and render all of those tiny damage that were dealt completely pointless. So yeah. You can write off a vast majority of weapons, even modern weapons. And of those weapons that can reliably kill the titans, they need some adjustment to adapt their targeting to that of a giant titan's tiny weakness. Those weapons are also highly expensive and has relatively slow production rate. Nukes aside. It is a lot closer than what these military wank show. Everytime modern military are dragged in, they conveniently not taking consideration in various abilities, contexts, and the intellegent of the oppositions.
I do have to say just like how a lot of what you say 'Military wanks' overgloss some fact, even some fantasy enjoyers like you forget the fact that you overgloss a lot of facts and cannot defeat physics and biology. Let's say a tank round did not manage to penetrate a titan, there will still be damage due to the fact that *kinetic force cannot be dissipated and will still transfer* meaning that there will always be bruising (damage to the tissue) on the unpenetrated part that got hit, look up photos of people getting bruised and sometimes having broken ribcage after a bullet hits their body armor. There is the fact that biomechanically, you a titan or even any human cannot walk without the kneecaps, specifically qaudriceps and patellar (knee cap) tendon (see: What Are Kneecaps For? By Rehab and Revive). Also the fact that modern weapon can infact damage those titans even tho it is a minor damage like those muscle soreness after workout it is still damage, the argument you're making with 'modern weapon obsolete' is akin to 'I'm a human i am big and my skin is tough, those mosquitoes will never suck my blood because they're small with small needle that do no damage rendering them obsolete' but yet mosquitoes still manages to pierce your skin and suck your blood. Aside from that since they're surviving on high temperatures that must mean that their metabolic processes are adapted to high temperate, lower the temperature and you can kill those things meaning if you somehow magically manage to douse those titans with anything cold like liquid nitrogen then it has a high cjance of dying, an example would be those dumb extremophile bacteria that can live on thermal vents with temps or 100c but will die if you drag it to an ambient temp of 25c because it simply cannot do metabolic activity. There's also the fact that gravity is a limiting factor but let's not get into that topic since we'll assume this world has less G force than earth. What I am trying to say is that a lot of some fantasy arguments can always be countered with years, decades or even millenia full of research, results and experiments meanwhile when the fantasy enjoyer argues with a 'military wank' it usually boils down to 'iT's MaGiC BrO' or similar variation.
@@asinner7418just saying but the rumbling is a free weapon if you think about it as paradis would just likely use it as the spear head to create a buffer zone to allow their armed forces to enter marley because the rumbling is not an event that happens on it’s own, it’s a large scale controlled weapon that at worst could still give you huge advantage on the start of a conflict and that how you should look at it because we’re not fighting titans, we’re fighting humans.
@@thorveim1174 Right, they're not made to fight Titans. But a modern missile could outright OBLITERATE an entire Colossal's neck. Also, you're overlooking the capability of modern precision bombing and SPA's firepower.
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buddy, you didn't consider war production and other shi.
A common misconception around nukes is that if one is detonated alone it means nuclear winter and crazy radiatin. Ever since 1945, humanity has conducted a total of 2121 nuclear tests with 2476 devices. With the sum of the exposions accounting for 545 megatonns. Nuclear winter and other long term side effects would not matter in the slightest if the nukes were to be used efficiently.
Radiation is not that widespread I think it's because nukes were detonated airburst and not when they hit the ground this reduces the radioactiveness but increases the firepower of the nuke this is why they could rebuilt Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Plus nuclear winter isn't about the radiation. The subsequent fires that will come after the detonation is what would do the most impact to the environment as a whole, not the radiation itself (which is usually dispersed enough for it to be actually negligible)
@@tsarbombawithinternetconne875 yeah most people don’t know that nuclear winter would be due to the ashes and dust from fires that are to come after a nuclear war and the ash and dust would block out the sun which causes nuclear winter
You won’t get a nuclear winter from dropping like 5 bombs
You can take a larger number, the nuclear bombs of today are not the same as those of the 1950s, a nuclear winter is still possible but very small and the damage would also be controllable.
@leikesdark Then you could just use cold war nukes which russia probably has lots of, considering the huge amounts of nuclear testing the cold war saw, now winter will be coming anytime soon.
Yea they can just use all the 65k nukes Soviet had
9:19 in modern times the government would enter diplomatic, talks with Eren Yeager making a deal, saying that if he even starts the rumbling all the countries that have nuclear weapons will just nuke Eldon.
Plus nuclear winter wouldn’t be that big of a deal for the entire world concerning the country is an island nation in the middle of nowhere.
Its like at point nemo
No ships go through there
No planes go above it
And fish don't pass by there
madagascar will be gone before the rumbling started cause all FBI operators are all already stationed there
I think everyone would jsut skip to the nuclear opion
We would just be wasting nukes
@@Spino2722 there's12,100 nuclear warheads on planet earht you only need 5 to take down the rumbling the frist one is for the wall titians the rest is for anything that lives and the last 2 are for Eren to make sure hes dead like for good and dsoen't turn into a titian shift again
You do know that there are two superpowers in the Cold War who would not hesitate to press the red button, right?
They literally hesitated for the entirety of the Cold War. We wouldn’t be here if they didn’t hesitate
he is quite ignorant
Is wall titan can heal from nuke?
@@bryanayson8304 Is wall titan can heal from nuke?
@@InmyMindInmyEyestheLoveweshare no and yes
By 1945 the Rumbling is obsolete, and no, not because of nukes but because of bomber capabilities.
Given Eren got deleted by a sword, I'd say you need one bunker buster.
Also, the arvument Ymir can just create infinite indestructible titans out of think air isnt canon. The author confirmed the wall titans had humans in them, so she'd need Eldians to create them. Without Eldians on earth, she'd basically be stuck with what she has.
There are about a million or so Eldians worldwide, 750k on Paradis, hundreds of thousands in ghettos in various countries. If Ymir wanted, she would have another 1 million colossal titans.
But overall it won't change anything, there's enough firepower for everyone. Although if you take logistics into account, the titans have a chance to destroy it faster than they'll be destroyed.
And Eren had to stay safe on the island, in a place where no one could fly.
@kulichkun8709 that's headcanon. Also, Ymir can't transform them without the titan gas, remember?
they needed precision guided bombs to delete either one of them, and WW2 era happened to have the first one, the german Fritz X i can see a collaboration between germany and the US to mount Fritz X onto a B29 and unleashing them into eren and ymir
The real world shits on Eren's Rumbling.
the ww1 part is somewhat flawed, chemical weapons do damage by contact, chlorine, along with phosgene, has been known to do damage in the skin, eyes, and other parts of the body, not to mention the usage of mustard gas which deals more damage on the skin, a good demonstrator is tear gas, which can irritate on contact. But the most important parts of 1914 armies(except for machine guns) are the siege cannons and the heavy artillery. I think the strategy used will be to lure the titans inland and wage a protracted layered defence, using the air services to drop bombs and the artillery to hammer on the titans, the usage of telephones, bicycles, and runners will be critical, and the initial strategy of all the large armies in europe is a mobile warfare so they may have difficulty in adapting to a more static strategy, but they can act well on counter attacks.
And the whole point of AoT's last arc was that Titans are becoming obsolete with the introduction of aerial warfare (hot air balloons and airplanes).
That means ww1 tech could potentially slow down the Rumbling or even stop it.
you are aware Chemical weapons wont do crap to the titans? to kill a titan you have to hit the nape if not disintegrate it and theres no way you can lure Wall titans they'll just keep marching
@@TheRobloxTheorists0 they can do something, it's known that gas weapons(i am excluding biological weapons since they aren't that used much) can do chemical burns by reaction, even if you need a nape to kill the thing, it can burn the skin, and will go through the skin if wounded and will definitely be enough to weaken a titan, or kill it given enough time.
And you can lure titans, it's known they like areas with large people, i mean, that's how they've been operating since the start.
@perlasandoval7883 fair fair
But im talking about rumbling titans you cant rlly lure them all they'll do is just keep walking
Mustard gas and flamethrower carries this challenge
Even a single lancaster with a Grand Slam (which was 22,000lb in weight and designed to penetrate underground then detonate) would be enough to stop the rumbling. Yeager aint doing shit against 9,500lb of pure Torpex
Humans shit on the xenos, always.
As it should be
Not to mention the story called "History" has better writing than all Seasons of Attack On Titan.
idk man, they've seemed to mischaracterize Canada after the World Wars arc
@@Burningpaladin no we did not them
Dude History still has a lot of writing flaws and plotholes, what about people that had magic, Like the protagonist of the New Testament saga? Where did the magic go? And most important theres a debate going around that the New Testament saga was non Canon but others think it was canon.
That random french guy can topple eren rumbling he tamed Russia like it was nothing he was a force of nature bruv stop comparing it to him 1 conquered half of europe other is some fictional bs
@nonagon1299 nah, new testament gotta be canon. like it perfectly connects to the old testament, you can't just throw away something that is well written and just to make it filler.
The WW2 part was mostly correct if it wasnt for a little silly man called Openheimer
lol
Einstein and Openheimer did just grant Humanity to glass their own world if they're not careful.
Don't forget that graveyard aircraft can be placed back into service
I would say after WWII the survivability of humanity goes up considerably. 1950's would still be a problem but I would say by the late 60s and after the world at large would likely be able to survive the titans with damage from them becoming less severe as you go through each decade.
As of now in 2024-25 its likely all the titans could mostly be wiped out before they did any true considerable damage world wide.
Yeah, long range guided missiles are a game changer in warfare.
In the aftermath of WW2? The world is at peak production rates, has a shitload of material produced, in production and planned. Just as a note, in 1944 the US alone produced a total of 75.000 combat aircraft. A late years of the war scenario or a postwar scenario where the rumbling takes place it justs destroys the best chance for the titan attack, because in a 1939 scenario what the world would lack is enough time to gear up...but if you are already geared up and pumping war material like crazy, it goes very bad for the rumbling. Also very fast deployment of Fritz-X type of bombs(a guided german antiship bomb made by the germans late in the war) or mass use of Okha (literal purpose built kamikaze rocket planes with a warhead on the tip) like devices will make targeted attacks possible and very deadly. True, ground troops would have limited value (they will still do something), but at the point of the vulnerability to attack the nape of the neck is discovered (and it will be discovered), planes with rockets and dive bombers for example will have a field day. On the water is kinda the same story. While battleships , specially fast ones will be deadly (able to keep distance and unleash a pounding for hours with high-weight caliber rounds), the kicker is the air arm of the navies. In 1945 USa had 99 aircraft carriers of all types, with many of them able to go faster than what a horse can gallop (so.....faster than titans even on land), that means each carrier will be able to attack for days, retreat, rearm, come back, repeat. I don't know, I mean, any WW2 point after 1943 (including inmediate postwar years) where the scale of the conflict soared to it's final heights is a bad point for the rumbling, too much shit capable of killing titans already around.
@@KarolusTemplareV True but you forget the fact that much of the weaponry of WWII is not as accurate, and although they could likely achieve a victory it would be quite costly. Especially as range would still be an issue, although I'm sure its possible given your assessment a victory is achievable. Okay lets see what we have for WWII-Post War
Now we have to assume that the world is aware of the rumbling on its way and for the time being unified as a united front against this severe threat. The US although the first atomic capable country is unlikely to have enough bombs to be worth while in this fight so everything will be mostly what the US and other countries had already at their disposal and anything that was already coming off the assembly lines. I'm going to add the first jet fighters as well.
So lets see.
Several countries were devastated during the war.
China
Japan
Germany
Parts of Russia
England.
Italy
Parts of Northern Africa
Then there is the fact that hundreds of other existing nations scattered around have little to no appreciable military except anything that was probably WWI to pre- wwII
Lets assume that they will be unable to provide much help well except Russia cause they don't know better, and the devastated axis powers and allied powers sends their technology and research to be reverse engineered by the US and or built so they can get stuff in production to combat the new threat.
The US is unlikely to use most of the conventional equipment provided to them. and will likely send its new allies its own equipment with a few of the ones they were given to build being chosen..
I could see the ME-262, The Golster Meteor, and the Shooting Star popping up. All jet fighters, with perhaps even the German bomber as well. They likely will provide use in the later campaign of the conflict as the titans reaches developed countries or areas that are deemed suitable. Conventional fighters however will likely still provide the bulk of the fighter due to practical reasons.
The main issue here would be range. Range will be necessary for the united forces to kill as many titans as possible.
Right away the use of high level bombing will be necessary. Bombers of any type but especially the long range high level bombers will be the best chance of wiping out a good number of titans. Given these monsters could tank a sizable number of weapons and keep moving. Multiple runs will be needed until its determined what is the best weapons necessary. True there is a ungodly amount of bombers in this era. They can only hold so much. medium range bombers and light bombers will likely not be needed unless they can perform other roles that can be useful.
The Fritz-X anti-Ship bomb could be used. Its essentially a guided bomb. If dropped at a appreciable height and guided smoothly it should be able to reach potential targets. That being said it wasn't that accurate and early devices used to guide it might suffer severe interference with the sheer amount of heat the Titans could be producing. Perhaps if given a way to explode when it detects its target could be done. Although this would limit its effectiveness from making direct kills and more for maiming. Hmm perhaps using them to maim and disable titans in the front of the horde to trip and make other titans easier targets.
A bomb that could be quite useful would be the earthquake bombs the British had. Massive bunker busters, that if also given a way to explode near the titans could be useful in tearing them apart. High level bombers could very well deploy them.
Fighter bombers and heavy fighters and Jet fighters could be useful in this fight. Their weaponry should punch through titans fairly well. If they can get behind them and hit the necks even better. The only problem is they are likely the ones that has to get close and its possible some might not survive the severe heat especially the tempermental early jet engines.
The V-1 and the V-2 will likely see heavy use.
The V-1 the father of the Cruise missile will probably be heavily used. given proper cordinates and timing the V-1 could slam into titan groups and maul them. I could see this weapons being increasingly used on the Titans due to being able to be launched from a distance. They might have different engines however or refinement.
The V-2 could also be seen as being used. heavier payload it could be used to devastate multiple titans. Although accuracy would be abysmal it could be fired into the general area and its explosion disabling titans or killing a couple.
artillery and tanks.
These can shoot for several miles, so they can help in the conflict however their roles would be is for them to finish off fallen titans and or provide a defense of towns, and cities. Most of the artillery in WWII by wars end are perfectly capable of wiping out titans. The issue would be in how they would best be deployed and that likely would be as far as from the front line as possible except for tanks and other mobile pieces that can shoot and run. One giant issues is titans are fast. they walked at a pace of around 30 to 31 miles. Doesn't seem like much until you realize that most tanks in that era were not that fast either. The best tactic would be is for them to create holes in the titan line and aid the bombers and long range fire. Hoping to create gaps that could be safe for the tanks and artillery to get through and perhaps cause damage on the otherside.
Titans were hellishly fast in water. Best course for naval vessels would be is to set up massive mine fields in the path of titans and depth charges. Also remaining in deep water so as to avoid the tsunami sized waves as the titans breached the coast.
With the right coordination its likely that humanity can survive with WWII era weaponry, however its likely large sections of Earth will be devastated by the rumbling, with still millions dead, especially in nations that didn't have the more modern weapons or were sacrificed to be killzones.
One problem however remains and that will be Eren. If humanity can break his front of the titan horde they could have a go at trying to eliminate him. That being said his titan is a armored beast that likely could tank the sizable majority of human weaponry. A combined assault will be needed to see if breaking something is possible. High level bombing with heavy munitions, rocket attacks by aircraft, and artillery barrage will be needed to see what can crack. Sucide attacks likely could be useful as well given that they would likely be more accurate than conventional weapons. In the end the best course of action would be in waiting and then deploying a atomic bomb in a V-2 and slapping Eren in the face with it.
Dive bombers were notoriously accurate, and rockets you just spam 30 something rockets which means some hit where you want.
Artillery that is ineffective against Titans uses HE, that is, high explosive ammunition, so its main use is soft targets and area damage, but do not forget that armor-piercing ammunition will be used against such a threat in real life.
My brother in christ made no attemptto think countries would begin mobilizing and specializing industrial production for weapons effective against Titans
Yes inovation production geography zepling and aircrafts ww1 will easily win against them
Yeah... The Modern Part is unrealistic. There's this thing called " The Soviet Union " and at its peak, it would obliterate the Rumbling Alone (Considering this is 70s-80s USSR). The Nuclear Bombs, the Vast quantities of jets, tanks and artillery, submarines and the troops they would have.
Not to mention body armor, night vision goggles, armor piercing ammo, Helicopters, and the United States and China and UK all being willing to stop the Rumbling
@@olg7483 Hell. UK is overkill.
Soviet union in real life is nowhere near as terrifying as you describe them but yes they could probably take them on (hopefully)
@@BarryAllen__1A23 not probably, they can take them all by themselves. Hell its overkill.
10:03 if a singkle one of those small rockets is enough to kill one of those titans, then ww2 would have been able to wipe out all of the titans, most fighters were able to carry rockets, strike aircraft or heavy fighters even more rockets or bombs
The ww2 one you could have mentioned the schwerer gustav in real life it wasn't effective but in a situation like this I see it having a significant impact.
I doubt it, only two Schwerer Gustavs were built in the entire war and it was only able to fire around 15 rounds a day with extremely limited mobility. Best case scenario, the blast from one shell might kill two colossal titans at the same time, but that’s it.
you are severely overestimating what two guns could do. Limited mobility and slow firerate.
@Phoenixlp44 And using a lot of resources
Honestly WW2 is already overkill for the titans
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I think you got the land numbers in 1939 wrong. We only ever see high explosive rounds used against the titans but I would imagine armor piercing high explosive rounds would have a greater effect since they could get through pretty much any armor the titans had. Most countries had access to this. The problem would be the titans movement speed which would trample artillery positions.
Not to mention possibly the APDS rounds from a British 17 pdr, which could penetrate shitloads of armour. Also the statement that Germany had way more firepower than other countries is so wrong… The British navy was split into three fronts, yet held against the Japanese, Italian, and German navies for years.
@@circle2121 Well said, Explosive mass in 1940 shouldn't be underestimated.
@@circle2121 He was most likely talking about firepower located on land.
Yup
"Germany's firepower far exceeded that of other countries" bro forgot the USSR which had better artillery than Germany even before WW2 and in far greater numbers
The red flesh army VS the red army.
Now that's something to see
And it’s not even true for most of their weapons, Germany only really had the 88 as super effective all rounder gun, the 75 was specialized into a tank killer so not much bursting going on in the titans to actually hit their weak points lol
@@r7ahtesham885 Soviet is Artillery army
the soviets had the katyusha rockets which would literally pulverised anything in the target area.
@@poil8351Imma tell a story about those things.When Soviets came to Yugoslavia,by the end of the war to help the Partisans liberate, partisans were in one battle trying to take some fortress around city of Sombor but machine gun would gun them down before they could cross to other side.Then soviets came with couple Katyusha trucks and said:"Alright that is enough stop getting your men killed" fired them and leveled down whole fortress to the ground
You didn’t include mobilization and war production which makes a lot of tanks, aircraft and other war machines
Anime vs Real Life mostly ends really bad for anime.
You know a verse is weak when you can compare it to our own world 💀
WW2 navies would turn the rumbling into crumbling
I'm pretty sure ww2 era could kill all of the Titans sense the more they kill the Titans the more they did and they had the a bomb
Yes, we saw that a Colossal transformation destroyed Eren's Founding Titan. The A-Bomb will most likely pulverise him from existence, ending the Rumbling.
I need to emphasize that Armin isn't even creating as big an explosion as the Hiroshima bomb, let alone a *modern* nuclear weapon.
Well I think the 1939 was downplayed a lot, sure on land, the military doesn’t stand much of a chance, however at sea, you only mentioned the France battleships, why not mention the other far more powerful monsters? Like the Bismarck or Yamato or Iowa. Also German produced around 118000 planes while Japan produced around 72000, tho these are rough estimates, America produced 300000+ alone so I feel like the numbers of planes are down played a lot.
Other comments also mentioned battleships like French dunkerque, but stepping aside from battleships, resource management is also very important, Japan and Germany didnt had the best geographical position but with the aid of the allies like Soviet, America, or even China with its massive land area. The war between Titans will be very tough but not impossible.
the Yamato class are launched in 1941, and French battleships are a ok average metric, the ships you mentioned are the exceptions, not the rule on 1939 battleships
@@perlasandoval7883 alright sure that’s true, many of those super powerful battleships were build after 1939, but the numbers are a little inaccurate that’s all I have to nitpick about
If Titans would appear, the world will atleast be united to destroy the Titans. This means Germany can have access to materials and help from The Allied nations to develope and produce more weapons such the Schwere Gustav and other wonder weapons. You also have to consider the industrial capacity of certain nations such as the US and USSR.
@@karroarmado9272 I mean tbh the gustav was pretty limited in what it could do
@@thecreature916I think V 1 rockets or any of that kind would be effective
world would drop pure democracy to each and every titan .
FOR SUPER EARTH !!!!
You forgot to mention Zeke's transformation, which wiped out Marley's airships. He could deal severe damage to World War II planes and even take down dozens of modern fighter jets.
You forgot to mention drone warfare, we have as a species hundreds of thousands of drones.
Grandpa buff "I alone can wipe them out"
The WHOLE REASON that Eren started the rumbling when he did was because he KNEW that newer technology was starting to become more powerful than the titans, making the titans obsolete. They had roughly WW1 era tech when the rumbling started. I would say any tech from WW2 or newer would be able to defeat the rumbling.
Especially the switch from bolt action to semi and full auto guns
Keep in mind that when fighting in modern times (cough) *B-52* (cough)
Release the eagle
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Release the what?
AWACS: fetch me their souls
You are forgetting the fact that these titans are made of soft flesh and muscle tissue with exposed weak spots the world in 1939-1945 would DECIMATE the rumbling, in the show I have reason to believe that they have high explosives loaded into their numerous weapons which are not effective at all against heavy armour, however the world in this era would simply load armour piercing high explosive, this round penetrates the target and then detonates causing catastrophic damage to the target. Also bombers specifically British bombers mainly the lancaster were retro fitted to carry a 22,000lb "grand slam" bomb that was able to Penetrate MOUNTAINS.
For 1914 you forgot about zeppelin’s with were blimps and could rain down bombs
Yeah, it was a pretty effective attack in the anime. But quickly got shot down by the unexpected Zeke's attack.
@@GoingForthon one side fair, on the other that just means engage them where Zeke isnt, the World is large, Zeke cant be everywhere lol
@@GoingForthand that's was one time tyere are thousands more
Blimps suck. Planes are faster more advanced and can tank some damage
You did not just say missile for a heavy naval gun shell 😭
Yeah no....we could nuke the rumbling (Modern tech vs Rumbling). Eldia is on Madagascar canonically (the AOT world is ours just inverted) so 3 or 4 nukes against the rumbling as it starts (and trust me WE WOULD KNOW IF IT STARTED) and it's over like that. First we would prob try to negotiate with Eren to save Eldia and it's people....then somebody (probably Russia given it's leader) would nuke Eldia as Eren would be like "NoOOoO hUMan bAd"....boom, rumbling dealt with. The Nuclear Winter after wouldn't even be that bad given that it would be isolated to just Eldia because lord knows the USA, UK, and other world powers would NOT let the rumbling even get OFF the island.
But fine, say we couldn't use nukes....the amount of sheer Daka (Ork word for firepower) the USA can output ALONE is astronomical....we would only need 1 or 2 aircraft carriers and boom....rumbling over.
i love that the only downside of nukes in theese videos is that they might kill everyone other than the guy theyre fighting aswell theyre just that strong
WW2 era had the first guided glide bomb, the German Fritz X mounted on some bomber, if the nations knows to target either Eren or Ymir they wouldve used the Fritz X against those two specifically, cause unlike regular bombs, these one were radio guided and were armor piercing bombs that was designed to pierce through ship armor and i imagine they wouldnt have much difficulty piercing titan armors as well
Mustard gas attacks the eye tissue also and not only the lungs
To quote Tobirama Senju: Destroy humanity? You brat...
so this is why the military budget is so high
Do 1 Imperator class Titan (Warhammer 40k) vs the entire rumbling.
rumbling will get vaporized, I'm not even sugarcoating it
Rumbling would be humbled
Bro that's overkill entire island will be Goan
How the fuck is Eren going to deal with the Titan's void shield???
Thunder spears are basically rockets which were fairly common on some fighter planes, the Corsair alone could hold 8, now imagine a bunch of them
For the WW1 scenario, I would agree with the result. For the WW2 scenario, the world’s armies would probably be sufficient to defeat all of the titans. We need to keep note that the US had already been working on the atomic bomb before it joined WW2 and it would more than likely have been produced faster if the Titans appeared in the middle of WW2. The sheer number of warships, artillery and tanks are enough to easily kill titans with a bombardment of various shells. Non-bomber aircraft can easily perform dive bomb attacks and slowly take out the titans. Those forces should stall for long enough for the atomic bomb to be mass produced and win the war. Note that nuclear winter will most likely not happen as the bombs dropped in WW2 are atom bombs which are thousands of times weaker than the currently used thermonuclear bombs. WW2 era would win but at a huge cost similar or even surpassing the losses of the real timeline. Current day is a joke. Warships fire from 100km+, aircraft fire from 100km+, tanks are just as fast as the titans can are very accurate, teams with ATGMs could get decently close and kill a few, rocket systems and long range artillery far and go to a new position, and not to mention the range of ICBMs like the Minuteman lll and Topol M being above 6000km. Modern day would be more worried about the costs than the war itself
And also nazi Germany was also working on nuclear research, they are the first one who discovered it, n*zi germany not able to develop nuclear weapons because Adolf Hitler have lack of interest in developing nukes & focused on developing tanks & aircrafts instead.
@@n3b954 AH was not the sole reason why they failed. The german scientists who worked on the project had difficulty in the project. Firstly they could not achieve a successful chain reaction needed for the big boom and acquiring key ingredients such as heavy water and uranium were not easy not while the RN rules the sea and USAF rules the sky thats why by 1941 it was decided by everyone including AH that the nuke program would be in low priority. Thats why when the leaders of the german nuke program such as Heisenberg heard about hiroshima, they were truly shocked. They truly believed that the nukes werent possible until 2 decades later but the allied did it in just 3 years.
This channel is hella underated
The whole “modern military would’ve decimated the rumbling” is stupid as if it wasn’t obvious enough. If you actually watched AOT then you should’ve know that titans slowly becoming obsolete against modern warfare and it was brought up pretty early in season 4 .what people forget is that the rumbling is a controlled large scale weapon, you doesn’t need it to decimate nations just for it to decimate nations and humanity just for it to be useful, you can just use 30-40 titans one at a time to destroy fleets or clearing coastal defenses to make way for your marines to make an amphibious landing.
The problem is, Paradis Island doesn't have the capability to wage a large-scale war. Even their more advanced weapons are stolen and reverse-engineered from Marley.
They aren’t getting past any modern navy
I feel as though that this guy is underestimating the real world, if we say that this invasion starts from Madagascar because if you look at a map of AOT Paradise Island is literally Madagascar. That would still give time for every world power to respond and to assess the threat. I think once they see the damage being done to Africa, they'd either try to join together to stop this threat. Or enter talks with Eren. I forgot to mention but I'm talking about 1930s-40s world btw. Also my guy is woefully highballing bomber numbers. WW2 tanks often had pretty high caliber guns meant for piercing instead of the general high explosive shells that we see used by Marley in the show, now once the world learns of the titan's weak point I feel as though it would be a slaughter. Also by 1945 the titans are done for because, let's just say here comes a second sun. WW2 fighter planes could carry some small bombs, their guns would be effective at at least slowing down titans if not outright killing them. Also one thing about AOT is that the author kinda is bad at showing accurate scaling, this is most prevalant when Armin in Colossal Titan form steps of a battleship and it seems to be the size of his foot. If we assume that the battleships of the show are based off either pre-dreadnought battleships or dreadnoughts, then even Armin would be of similar size to them. Taking that into account and the fact that by the 1930s-40s battleships had grown to massive proportions and that were much faster than their predecessors, yeah idk if Titans would really dominate against them. The water vapour danger is still present however, just not as big if we consider accurate scaling.
Idk why but I'm getting Deja vu from this video
A few videos on this topic
I think this is a reupload
What eren survived wasn't comparable to nuke
Nuke will be much stronger
And eren in cold war probably getting tsar bomba treatment
50 megatons
Ok well in modern times we instantly nuke any exoplanet anomalies that are not our "friendly" aliens. Their are unclassified documents that describe our procedures for doing so. Like we literally laser asteroids to dust for fun.
Good video just you forgot about industry with how many planes, artillery pieces, tanks and ships we can produce
The part of ww2 is not so accurate, you're not considering a lot of things about Germany and Great Britain, the germans had the super wepons v1, v2, and maybe we can consider the v3, also they had the Schwerer Gustav (a giant piece of artillery with a 800mm cannon) Imagining that 1000 pounds of TNT can take down a titan, these wepons would kill more than 69.336,6 titans. The Britishs had the "tall boy" (a 12.000 pounds bomb) killing around 10.200 other titans. Just these things would kill more than 79.536,6, sorry if my english had some mistakes, it isn't my main language.
There are some other things, but I don't have patience to search and write
1945 American little boy:
The gustav took 4days to assemble since it couldnt move on its own and also it had to get its own special rail for it to even be able to be asembled.
The v1 was terribly inacurate and the v2 was very expensive,the v3 took time to build and was an entire underground instalation,maybe the v4 would be better.
Wehraboo behaviour, the v rockets were highly innacurate, the gustav was a railway gun that required an entire division guarding it, the construction of rail to aim and the switch of the cannon every few shots
@felop1187 this video is just a strength comparison there's no reason to consider the gustav logistics and inaccuracy of the v missiles
_Laughing in anthrax_ ☣️
Did you re upload this? because i swear I’ve seen this before
a few nukes won't cause a nuclear winter. Vaporising the entirety of the titans won't cause a nuclear winter. It's only a *theorized* effect of nearly all the US and the Soviet nuclear arsenal being used within a short period of time. Do you know how many nuclear tests have been carried out by world powers? During the cold war, an average of 3 nuclear weapons were detonated per month.
If he took 1919 or some the period before the battle of london in ww1 or 1942-43's world industrial power. The giants are so dead. In aot, the humans lost because they did not grew an airforce, ironically because they used titans as tactical and strategic bombs. Big war behemonths like the airship and dreadnoughts could easily destroy titans. The ships in aot fired way too late. A 200-300mm sized gun could fire way earlier than that.
Daam, this video is pretty well made! You need more recognition :D
5:54 don’t forget about the sturmtiger which can punch a hole in some smaller titans
3:40
IS THAT? WAR THUNDER MUSIC?
What about the real worled in 1890 vs The Rumbling?
1940s humanity stomps the Rumbling, modern humanity is just laughable overkill.
6:48 they did not fire missles. Not used on warships at this time. but good video.
According to Oxford dictionary, a missle is "an object which is forcibly propelled at a target, either by hand or from a mechanical weapon." You can throw your phone and fire a missle, you can shoot a gun and also fire a missle, you can fire a guided rocket and that is also a missle.
Also navys used the world missle to describe naval projecticles before guided rocket based missles were invented
He forgot the kamikaze attack
If nuke don't work I can Imagine Governmentsnstart funding Space agencies like crazy to grab an asteroid and send it Eren lmao
that weakpoint on the back of the neck is non-negotiable to the titans, which pretty much means that as soon as word gets out that they die if you hit the back of their neck they are preeeeety much gonna fall like wheat to any random ass [farmer with a gun] that's scattered all over the countryside across most of the world let alone large cities and organized militaries.
global information infrastructure in ww1 was such a colossal shitstorm that they might actually still fail ESPECIALLY with the near universal anti-information culture they had going on but even just a couple years into ww1 when so much of that power structure had been eroded they would likely win and by the time you get to WW2 it's pretty much a given, let alone any time after the internet is an actual present [thing].
I dont think the Richelieu is a good benchmark for ww2 era battleships, considering that ww2 era battleships ranged from obsolete floating steel hunks to the largest gun platform ever built. But I think that the US and UK mass producing Iowa-class and Yamato-class battleships would just be GG for any titans daring to try their luck. Not to mention, I dont think Eren is stopping the US from just nuking him after all, they had 2 bombs during the war.
and then even had a third that went unused
USA solos the rumbling ez
5:06 Super basic planes.Mate have you heard about Ilya Muromets bomber plane??
Thinking that the rest of the world had twice the amount of planes than the great powers is hilarious let me ask um what is this rest of the world you speak of
The UK used BlockBuster Bombs in WWII, how much damage would that do to a Titan?
Good video
Well, in ww2, depend if you take evrything because the German had a 800mm railway artillery, the B29 with nukes, the me262 first jet fighter with 24 rockets, the Yamato battleship and so much more
Gustav cannons are wasteful machines. Sure they have the firepower but reloading those things are painful af not to mention they waste so many materials
lwk js call hajime isayama to make the rumbling dissapear
Is this a re-upload?
btw modern nukes disintegrate every thing and not have that bad of t nuclear fallout because they are a different kind then older ones and are all stronger blasts though and considering the fact calloses titans are just bones and muscles it would probably take about 500. considering the fact they have such a large blast radius and they would strategically attack when the titans are in the water it would not affect civilians as much. and we have WARSHIPS with devastating 30mm to 85mm auto cannons we could just aim for there head and kill most in a week. plus if you ask what if there on land well indirect fire.
They wouldn't even lift their own weight due to gravity by Square-cube law and the heat from their muscle alone could fry everything from within. Real world Coalition force knows that because they have physicist and biologist, so no wasted munitions could be thrown to the "Titans". Eren could also die as wells as other transformation Titans, because faster cell growth in achieving Titan like size increases the chance of cancer, so hypothetically they would die in cancer before even reaching full transformation. Transformation itself also is not possible as generating new cells from nothing is pure BS.
"Real world" would sit down and clown that asshole.
4:44 why aqua?
Cause she's useless as the gas
Insert military industrial complex
There are two big difference between 2d and 3d. Even a toddler 3d negs 2d
Yep The entire point of Aot that Titan is so Obsolete even in that timeline.
If it's modern times, A single guided missile From a su-57 or F-22 is enough.
Heck use the fucking MOBA.
They dont even need those jets, even vietnam era jets can do the job just as effectively
The ww2 planes could easly destroy it just becase something called the unguided rockets that were basicly pyrotecnia
One simple saturation bombing to the Founding will end the Rumbling lmao. The Titans don't have good AA capability (with only AA defense being Zeke and Bow-armed Warhammers)
inaccurate asf with ww2. im honestly so angry with how they treated ww2 that i might make my own video
Dumbass
Everyone here is talking about weapons.
The length of the wall is actually 2733km (2.733 million meters). If you don't believe me just do the calculations yourself
Dude you know nothing about warfare they're something called war production and many other things?
Like strategy tactics airplanes geography caves swamp mountains
Ww1 people will easily win because they would just use geography and trap to ske out 100000 tians that's it
try the 60 or 70s
Easy human win now try 1980s to now
wouldnt say in the cold war era either one of the major powers try to sway eldia on their side? there was room for diplomacy until the plan was sabotaged by eren, maybe a country like ussr might gurantee Eldia's independence in exchange for strategic resources and titan research, moreover since the titans are basically magic, there is no way of identifying an eldian sleeper agent, and with the powers of the founding titan, its a bit of a stretch, but what if eren could turn these sleeper agents to colossal titans, you basically get suicide bombers but with tactical nukes
Word
11:25 People would be like
"I have a right to be stomped on by titans 😡"
What are you talking about
@@matthewjones39how some people nowadays aren't the brightest
@@matthewjones39 he talks about giant foot fetishes and weird ass fantasies you see in deviantart
I haven't you see how crazy and deranged deviantart comments are?
@@matthewjones39 He's making arguments in his head to feel better
In modern times ,if USA is threatened by Eren Yaeger , The president will sent 100 morbillion dollars to Israel
I don't think we're taking into consideration how fast the Rumbling is. It took Europe at minimum weeks to transport a bunch of equipment to Ukraine.
The Rumbling took three days to get done, that's only enough time for America to mobilize a few Naval fleets to protect the US while Europe and Asia and every other continent gets destroyed.
Then the speed is not consistent with the anime, you literally see them probably going 40-50mph at most, which obviously isn't enough to cover even a single semi big-sized country in 3 days. Also, dealing with walking meats with no real offensive capabilites is different than dealing with weapons that could easily kill you. Considering a single capable modern bomber could bring eren down, not much would've been stomped. And the thing about stomping is that they come to YOU, so all people would really need is to man the guns and wait
Airpower exists, it's much faster to mobilize and strike with it when compared to sending ground equipment to a foreign nation whose logistics are under attack.
@@faruqfathin9491 Doesn't matter, three days is too fast for the world to deal with without prep time.
It feels like you are not considering a lot about the specifics of the Titans themselves.
Some of their basic abilities render a significant chunk of the weapons useless.
And for those that work, they need to hit a very specific area.
this. Even with our modern world most of our weapons are simply not made to fight titans, since nothing IRL behaves the same way as a titan's body (extremely large but soft target with barely anything vital in it). Most ammunition meant to pierce armor then detonate inside a vehicle would likely pierce through your average titan without dealing any meaningful damage along the way. Meanign the titans would have an advantage early on, until the world's power adapt to this new form of target. Shells and missiles are a precise science always means for a specific formof target after all
@thorveim1174 Yeah. The vast majority of anything lesser than a MBT tank cannon won't even be able to penetrate or damage the Titan.
And the 50-60m titans are too big for the damage of the cannon to be meaningful.
And because it is not the very specific tiny weakness in hard to hit place deep within their hardened flesh, they will regenerate quickly and render all of those tiny damage that were dealt completely pointless.
So yeah. You can write off a vast majority of weapons, even modern weapons.
And of those weapons that can reliably kill the titans, they need some adjustment to adapt their targeting to that of a giant titan's tiny weakness.
Those weapons are also highly expensive and has relatively slow production rate.
Nukes aside.
It is a lot closer than what these military wank show.
Everytime modern military are dragged in, they conveniently not taking consideration in various abilities, contexts, and the intellegent of the oppositions.
I do have to say just like how a lot of what you say 'Military wanks' overgloss some fact, even some fantasy enjoyers like you forget the fact that you overgloss a lot of facts and cannot defeat physics and biology. Let's say a tank round did not manage to penetrate a titan, there will still be damage due to the fact that *kinetic force cannot be dissipated and will still transfer* meaning that there will always be bruising (damage to the tissue) on the unpenetrated part that got hit, look up photos of people getting bruised and sometimes having broken ribcage after a bullet hits their body armor. There is the fact that biomechanically, you a titan or even any human cannot walk without the kneecaps, specifically qaudriceps and patellar (knee cap) tendon (see: What Are Kneecaps For? By Rehab and Revive). Also the fact that modern weapon can infact damage those titans even tho it is a minor damage like those muscle soreness after workout it is still damage, the argument you're making with 'modern weapon obsolete' is akin to 'I'm a human i am big and my skin is tough, those mosquitoes will never suck my blood because they're small with small needle that do no damage rendering them obsolete' but yet mosquitoes still manages to pierce your skin and suck your blood. Aside from that since they're surviving on high temperatures that must mean that their metabolic processes are adapted to high temperate, lower the temperature and you can kill those things meaning if you somehow magically manage to douse those titans with anything cold like liquid nitrogen then it has a high cjance of dying, an example would be those dumb extremophile bacteria that can live on thermal vents with temps or 100c but will die if you drag it to an ambient temp of 25c because it simply cannot do metabolic activity. There's also the fact that gravity is a limiting factor but let's not get into that topic since we'll assume this world has less G force than earth. What I am trying to say is that a lot of some fantasy arguments can always be countered with years, decades or even millenia full of research, results and experiments meanwhile when the fantasy enjoyer argues with a 'military wank' it usually boils down to 'iT's MaGiC BrO' or similar variation.
@@asinner7418just saying but the rumbling is a free weapon if you think about it as paradis would just likely use it as the spear head to create a buffer zone to allow their armed forces to enter marley because the rumbling is not an event that happens on it’s own, it’s a large scale controlled weapon that at worst could still give you huge advantage on the start of a conflict and that how you should look at it because we’re not fighting titans, we’re fighting humans.
@@thorveim1174 Right, they're not made to fight Titans. But a modern missile could outright OBLITERATE an entire Colossal's neck. Also, you're overlooking the capability of modern precision bombing and SPA's firepower.
Just no,,, the numbers and capabilities are wrong for all capabilities
nukes
also do u have a discord