@@Azazel2024 People are so accustomed to US supremacy that they forget we had to fight to get to our current global position. It's taken as ground truth instead of a century long balancing act. While I don't disagree with what you said entirely, the Japanese were fierce fighters. But, on the other hand, they made some monumentally stupid decisions that we took advantage of. Had they made marginally better choices the war would have gone very differently.
My only caveheat is that Japan had no intentions of invading the U.S. mainland. Maybe as far east as Hawaii, but the whole "rifle behind every blade of grass" wasn't just Yamamoto blowing smoke.
Yeah I'm not sure where that comes from. Japan nor Germany had the intent or capability to "conquer" America and the world. Why do they need to? By looking at a simple map of the time, The Allies, in particular the French & British had already conquered the world. Just seems like lazy regurgitated propaganda seen all over RUclips & academia, speaking from experience as an American school goer.
Well Yamamoto never said that... and the video is beyond slow in its assessment of the situation. It is talking about designs of planes being almost as good as them existing. Ive read complete fiction that has more actual fact in it than this video.
@@thomgizziz Several quotes are attributed to Adm. Yamamoto which he never exactly said. These quotes did, however, reflect his sentiments and what he told his colleagues in the Imperial high command and the Imperial government. Yamamoto had lived in the United States on two separate occasions, first as a postgraduate student and later as a naval attache. He was fluent in English and understood the American people and what the military potential of America was very well. Yamamoto might have been a lousy grand admiral at that, but he is revered in America as a philosopher of war.
It seems perhaps yeah! The notion of ferrying crude oil on an airplane seems ridiculous. But carrying around people and pallets of cell phones is good business!
@@xxGravyBabyxxdepends, if the plane is decently maintained (doubtful) and the US is not interested in giving the post-war governments large jet engined planes, I could see this thing operate until the late 50s, early 60s
They tried that with the Lancaster, total failure. When the B58 flopped (a truly magnificent aircraft) there was talk of putting passengers in the pod for the thrill of it. Windows & meals may have been a problem but who cares!
it will be loud af, remember soviet once convert tu 95 bomber to become an airliner, with 4 counter rotating engines it was loud enough, let alone 6 counter rotating engines
Just friggin great! We bought a Subaru Crosstrek as our "last new car ever". Well, better than buying a rotary Mazda with a Nazi engine or a Porsche, makers of the Panzer tank.
@@ASlickNamedPimpback Except for performance, B-32 range 6100 km, B-36 had 16,000 km much more like this plane. The US put the B-36 on low priority then existing bombers could do the work. And yes Japan had an critical fuel shortage at the later part of the war.
JIM the only way the b52 could achieve it's range was the introduction of midair refueling. The max bomb load is 70 to 80 k pounds. So fuel was the key. Light load of fuel on take off. Meet up with tanker n fuel up and presto 8k to 12 k miles depending on flying conditions.
The aircraft would have to cross hostile , american and canadian air space and then fly over Iceland (a huge airbase) Fly over the north sea within range of fighter aircraft from Great Britain. Then land and refule in Europe, in range of allied bombers. Then cross Soviet airspace to get back to Japan
The Germans and Japanese tried to cooperate but the distance between them was too large and required a 3-5 month submarine journey. Several u-boats and IJN submarines were lost. For the allies the journey could be conducted by aircraft say between Newfoundland and Liverpool or northern Ireland (about 3700km or 2200 miles) or on a fast ship that was too fast for a u-boat to catch.
The axis fought the war in the wrong order to me. If the soviet union was invaded by Germany and Japan in 1941 no one wouldve come to their aid. It would be a war on 2 fronts. Next would be north africa and the suez canal. Next is Britain. Without Pearl Harbour the USA would keep out of it. @@williamzk9083
There is actually an anime called Deep Blue Fleet that has a scene where a formation of G10n’s use their machine guns to intercept German TA-400 bombers
the 4 engine japanese plane is dubbed ranryuu (嵐龍-storm dragon), a bomber strafer with 4 rows of 20mm vulcans placed on schrage-musik fashion, 2 rows for ventral and dorsal position. And the german bomber in the show was jormungandr.
@@daylight39 [some spoilers] I know that I've said it up there...but, just in case, do you know if it is completely translated into English now? It's only up until episode 22 and one OVA about the development of an aircraft called Sourai. And there's like 10 more episodes to go. (32 total) _I really, really badly would want to know what will happen to the Indian and European Theaters already._
Look at what was involved in D-Day just crossing the 20 mile English Channel with Air superiority . How do you invade North America crossing a 2,000 mile Ocean with the largest Navy and Airforce waiting for you?
Japan was forced into a war they did not want All they wanted was the exact same playing field the Colonials had back then. Placing sanctions on Japan while Euro was on Empire Fests is beyond any sort of thinking.
the G10N was one of the first "what if" designs i found, i love the absolutely crazy ideas that Japanese designers came up with. they really should get a lot more attention. another suggestion could be the KX-03, an absolutely MASSIVE 500-ton flying boat designed by Kawanishi in 1943, and was to be powered by 12 radial engines and 6 jet engines.
The Japanese had no intention of ever invading the US Mainland. In point of fact they were well aware that they had neither the troops or equipment necessary to do so. The Japanese feared the American public in that they were well armed and willing to use deadly force outside the military command structure to defend their homes and families. This still stands today for many of our enemies. Americans will drop their internal issues and pick up their weapons to defend against any attempted invasion.
This bomber was a pipe dream, just like the Amerkabomber and Operation Sea Lion because from both technical and operational standpoints their problems all overlap. 1. Building the Bombers - The US could build huge bombers like the B-29 and the then proposed B-35 and B-36 because their factories were essentially immune from attack, and had no issues obtaining the raw materials needed to run the factories. Neither Germany or Japan could secure the supply chain or assembly plants needed to make their prized bombers. 2. Using them for strategic bombing - foregoing issue 1 above, the length of the sorties would mean each aircraft is flying maybe one sortie per month since a single mission would be something on the order of 36-48 hours and then you need a stand down for aircraft and crew to recover and prepare for the next sortie. Compare that to a B-17 where a typical mission was 8-12 hours and normally flying a sortie every 7-10 days. Then compare numbers, where bombing raids of 1000 aircraft were fairly common by B-17s and B-24s but you never saw such volume from B-29s because those more complex and expensive bombers did not exist in such quantity as to make such a read feasible. The supermassive Axis bombers would suffer the same condition. 3. Using them for Airborne assault and supply - this is where I will reference operation sealion. The issue is there was no chance Germany could have invaded Britain in force. Sure they could land small units to do sabotage and other nuisance and morale breaking but to hold a beachhead would need a constant stream of supply of both men and material. The Allies assembled a fleet of over 1000 ships for operation overlord, and had complete air dominance over the battlefield and complete naval control over the channel. There is no possibility Germany could do any of those things to invade Britain. Sure they had the Gigant gliders that could have been built in numbers but they could not carry heavy weapons like main battle tanks, and still there is the problem of lacking air superiority to protect those very vulnerable gliders. Now consider that same issue for Japan, but now crossing over the largest ocean on Earth rather than 50-80 miles of English Channel. Even if Japan had 10,000 of those bombers they would need to secure and hold a beachhead in the US with by my estimation only around 300 flights per day. Call that 4500 troops, their beans, bullets, and bandages, and a small number of medium weapons such as light tanks and trucks per day to fight off the entire US and Canadian Military, or put another way what the Allies were discharging every hour or so on Normandy but also including heavy weaponry and air support.
The entire idea of this was patently ridiculous. Even as early as the Battle of the Coral Sea, Japan was already having issues with the aircraft pipeline getting replacement aircraft to the front. Japan did design and build some excellent aircraft towards the end of the war, but the biggest issue was the metallurgy needed to produce more powerful engines that operated at higher temperatures and were more economical. Even with Germany providing technical specs and engineers, along with samples of the DB 600 series on inverted-vee 12 cylinder engine, Japan had issues producing it in quantity for use in the excellent Ki-61 Tony. The idea that they could come up with the resources to even attempt to build an aircraft of that magnitude was fatuous at best. Their attempts at aircraft pressurization were a disaster. And by the time of Operation Hailstone in February 1944, which obliterated Truk as a major base, the writing was on the wall and any fanciful ideas like this one were consigned to the scrap heap.
The other problem with this fantasy was that the Western US coast was bristling with USAAF airfields, USN bases, aircraft carriers, fighters and bombers all up and down the entire coast, any attempted attack would have been met with considerable resistance.
@@tauncfester3022 Exactly, These planes would have had no real chance to even reach their west coast targets. I am very sure that the United States had picket ships from Alaska to west of Hawaii all down to the Panama Canal. Any aircraft, even very high altitude ones. Would have been picked up when they were 2,000-3,000 miles out and a warning sent out. By the time they made it to the west coast. They would have been met by P-51's and P-47's. Both with exceptional high altitude capabilities and more than enough firepower to down these large planes. Just so that these planes could fly so far. Japan would have had to make them as well as they made the A6M Zero. Super thin skins, no armor, no self sealing fuel tanks.
The gear wasn’t intended to be completely jettisoned, it was calculated that the heavy gear needed to support the fully loaded bomber would not be needed once the bombs and fuel had been expended and part of the gear could be dropped
A couple of problems with the bombing plan of Mainland U.S.A. as is being presented here, Japan knew that winds were blowing Eastward and took advantage of it to carry their firebomb balloons but these were relatively low velocity and somewhat sporadic and they did not even know about the Jet Stream as we know it today. The U.S. didn't either until it was encountered by the high flying B29s in 1945 as the bombing campaign of Japan started, these winds were wreaking havoc with the first high altitude bombing missions until it was better understood. Then the part about bombing the Soviet Union on their return flight, Japan was not at war with the USSR until the very end of the war and would not have provoked war with them to help Germany.
It made me smile to see early in the video that your picture of a U.S. factory assembling bombers shows the B-32 Dominator. A warplane that almost missed out on being able to fly combat missions.
You should probably not be too narrow minded. It's the only way you can accurately perceive this history. The Allies were indiscriminately sinking any ship that wasn't theirs. So much so that the Allies even "accidentally" sank thousands of Allied POW's being shipped through the empire. The bulk of the sunken ships were oil tankers and food shipping. Mainland Japan produced little to no oil. (3mil barrels a year, half of which was synthetic garbage). The only realistic way was by air. Which they didn't do, but was a proposed idea in the video. It isn't the worst idea considering they had no other option.
Look how hard D-Day was crossing 20 miles of the English Channel with air superiority. How was Japan crossing 3,000 miles of Ocean and getting through the US Navy and airforce?
General: who’s gonna escort the G10N? Designer: another G10N, with Lots of Guns! I’m pretty sure the designer have some sketches of a AC130ish variant like tucked away, with autocannons and howitzers in the bombing bay. After all Japanese had a thing for derp guns.
8:33 then that's not an invasion per se, that's a raid. An invasion would mean they would stay there and occupy territory, which was not their intent here, it would seem.
Remember the "Pearl Harbor" movie, where the American General stated 'if they (Japanese) invaded now, they'd .....get as far as Chicago before we could stop them". Japan didn't have the shipping or logistics to even launch an invasion force, let alone, keep it supplied. They could, however, cause a lot of damage and chaos by launching suicide air raids from carriers, against US harbors and aircraft factories.
Amusing tale about the engine. The Pratt&Whitney R-4360 Wasp Major was also a four row radial -- and getting it to cool properly was the major project in its development. Which, however, was solved brilliantly, and the engine went on to become one of the most powerful of the last great piston engines.
No one ever talks about the successful sabotage of two dozen factories by Axis agents. All the factories were repaired and running inside a week, but it was impressive work for the tiny handful of agents.
Astonishing optimism. Of these humongous piston-engine bombers, only America managed to make the Convair B-36 and it wasn't available until well after the end of WW2.
I'm from Washington, and I can only say, having the troops move on foot from Sea-Tac to Renton is really smart. They'll beat the traffic handily, and make much better time. Seriously though... there is no way this was a serious plan for them. There are so many significant problems with their plane, production capacity, fuel/ general logistics, troop numbers to undertake something this batshit insane via airplane vs their navy assets, which were much better suited to such operations even though they were still completely unsuited to such a birdbrained idea... At the end of the day, the American production capacity and logistical mastery were what they were really fighting. I wish I still had the link or name to the video of ship production between the US vs Japanese Empire... Anyone who knows anything about he beauty of logistical systems can look at that five or six minute video, and any talk about wonder weapons between Japan and Germany will sound about as viable as me claiming that I have this super cool time machine I invented, and am offering for you to try... (you just need to put the crystals in the crystal receptacle and plug this wire into any electrical socket...). You watch the production numbers stay at rough parity... briefly... then the US is all of a sudden shitting out warships and transports (and ice cream barges... because how else are we going to get the ice cream into the middle of the fucking Pacific?) like its free taco night at a roadside taco stand, where it's literally always free taco night for some reason... Like, the spies Japan must've had in the mainland US must've been pretty unnerved... "yeah... another fleet carrier just got launced... that's what? Number 8 or 9 now? And the guy watching the smaller yards keeps saying that new "jeep carriers" keep sliding into the water seemingly every other week... I don't know what that means, but I don't like that the second word is also "carrier... oh, and I lost count of the fleet destroyers... it's a lot though... and the guys in Tacoma said something about escort destroyers for their fleet destroyers... So... I guess the destroyers now have destroyers escorting them to whatever they're gonna be destroying... so. How uh... how are we doing back home?" It's one of the things that kept breaking my immersion with The Man in the High Castle... The logistics of different systems has always been interesting to me, and the idea that somehow Japan managed to pull off a logistical undertaking capable of toppling the US in any way shape of form with what they were working with is just... kinda silly...
The Tu-95s counterpart is the B-52. Very different eras in aviation - just look at the wing. Of course the biggest difference is the incredibly efficient turboprop engines.
Never existed except as a drawing, the B-29 attacking, high altitude Aichi S21A2 was only in two prototypes that weren't yet airworthy as of July of 1945.
LOL! The Japanese lost the war as soon as they failed to sink any of the American aircraft carriers at Pearl Harbor. The Battle of Midway 7 months later put the nail in the coffin for them even holding on to the territory they had gained.
It did not matter if the US lost at Midway. The US industrial strength was alway going to have a much larger Navy than Japan . The US has 3 large fleet carriers during Midway. 2 years later the US has 28 large Carriers and 70 smaller escort carriers. If Japan sank 3 US ships to ever one of their own ships , japan would have lost all there ships well before the US. WW2 was simple math .
@@Crashed131963 The US didn’t built 28 large carriers and 70 escort carriers in 2 years… research more… the Japanese would still have more opportunities after at Midway.
@@yoseipilot Two years after Midway is June 1944. In 1944 the US out produced Japan and Germany combined in every thing. . By 1944 the US had the largest Navy in the world easily. By 1944 80% of the US navy ships were not built during the battle of midway . Japan Had no opportunities but to wait for the US War Production out produce Japan 6 to 1 in every thing by 1944. Japan lost the war on its way to Pearl harbor .
@@Crashed131963 US Production for Navy is only 3 to 1 against Japan, the Americans produced only 7 Fleet Carriers per year and they almost lost their entire fleet carriers in the end of 1942. If the Japanese succeed their operations, they would still have 8 fleet carriers to outnumber against the Americans each half year battle. Japan didn’t lost the war after Pearl Harbor (they would win the war) and even after Midway (there would be no winner from both sides after Pacific War), only losing at Guadalcanal Campaign causing losing the Pacific War.
It's amazing - and quite interesting - how the laws of physics invariably bring engineers - operating independently from different countries - to the same technological dead-ends. Pratt & Whitney (USA) DID develop a 28-cylinder, twin-supercharger, 4-row radial engine putting out an impressive 4300 HP, around the same time, slightly earlier, in 1944...the Wasp Major R-4360. And it too was a maintenance nightmare with chronic overheating issues leading to rapid piston/ring wear and spark plug issues. In other words, there were limitations in terms of how large and powerful a radial engine, realistically, could be built before reliability went out the window. I say WERE because it's important to understand that the above problems were VERY relative to the metallurgy of mid 19th century. Obviously, these problems were overcome when large aircraft eventually shifted to turboshaft (jet) engines. Important to remember that radial engines were CONCEIVED around the fundamental of superior (air) cooling - with cooling fins - compared to inline engines - specifically because radial engines have their cylinders arranged in a star pattern, directly in front of the aircraft's air flow. When extra rows of cylinders are added, cooling the rearward rows of cylinders, without compromising engine output and aerodynamic efficiency, becomes challenging. These WWII era radials were made from cast steel. If aluminum alloys had been sufficiently developed, not only would these engines have cooled more efficiently, they would also have been lighter. Contemporary electronic fuel injection could also, hypothetically, be used to more carefully control fuel/air mixture to help manage engine temperature - understanding that a richer mixture causes an engine to run cooler.
Fu-Go fire balloons could only reach North America on the winter jet stream patterns, at the time of the season when northwestern forests were wet. No forest fires resulted from this campaign.
Interesting brief, thanks for posting it.. But your facts are off at time stamp 8:42. Sea-Tac airport didn't become "a thing" until September of 1947. Seattle's Boeing Field was the only commercial airfield in King county during WWII.
Wow, what an amazing video. I didn't know that association with Subaru. For the little car that could and did, my mom gave me her 83 Subaru GL 5-speed when I rec'd my license in high school. A fun little car and pretty rambunctious to drive!
For this to succeed they would have had to start developing it prior to WW2. The B-29 was technically rushed into service before it was ready which is why it had magnesium engine parts that once on fire burned ferociously and usually melted the main wing spar. For example I would compare the G-10 program with the B-36 peacemaker, the B-36 BTW was designed along a similar route with the intent being an intercontinental bomber. The specs were drawn up in 1941 assuming England would fall to Germany and we would need to bomb Germany from the United States. The first B-36 prototype didn’t fly until sometime in 1946 or 1947. This despite the massive resources poured into its development. The resources to develop such an aircraft are significantly draining and the B-36 wouldn’t have existed if there hadn’t been a need to deploy very large nuclear weapons. The B-50 ( a seriously improved B-29 with the flaws ironed out) just wasn’t large enough to carry some of the massive early nuclear bombs. The B-36 was a stopgap until ICBMs gained the reach to hit targets far away. If you look at the later B-36 models with the 4 extra jets hung under the wing, you’ll see an increasingly vulnerable bomber trying to just make it a bit longer. By the time Boeing developed the B-47 and later B-52 the bombs got smaller and more sophisticated and you didn’t need a bomb the size of a 1 ton truck to ensure accuracy. Honestly the G-10 probably would have needed years of development to get the design ironed out and working properly. This is kinda hard when B-29s are raining fire on your civilian workforce. Both Germany and Japan started heavy long range bomber development far too late to have any success. The closest Germany got was the HE-177 Greif or griffon. An unreliable fire prone nightmare of a bomber with 2 nacelles holding 2 coupled DB-605 inverted V-12s. The rear engine in this arrangement had a nasty tendency to catch on fire owing to inadequate cooling. The 177 was still a medium bomber trying to cosplay as a heavy one. Japan never really got started cause the G4M was despite its range still a medium bomber. The US by contrast had developed the XB-15 in the 1930s and the B-17 not long after the XB-15s untimely destruction. The B-24 was also being developed in the 1930s so America had a 10 plus year start on long range heavy bombers. Both Germany and Japan would have needed to start then as well but they never did
When I was stationed at Picatinny Arsenal NJ in the 2010s, the locals would say "oh, thats where the explosion happened" I looked it up, they were talking about the Hurculese Powder Plant explosion in nearby Kent NJ just before WW2. Amazingly, that left such an impression they still talked about it today. If you read Prequel by Rachel Maddow, she reveals that exactly 1 month later, 3 more weapons plants exploded in 2 different states...all within 1 hour of each other. Thats not an accident. Thats an attack. The American industrial was almost unscathed, as you said, but if someone asks in what way did the Axis attack our industry, thats one possible example.
It is good that the Japanese and the Germans didn't work well together. The Japanese submarine aircraft carriers launched V1s or the Fieseler Fi 103R. It could have caused some problems for the US. If nothing else, it would have forced the US to improve air defense and anti-submarine measures.
It would be interesting to do pre equally series to man in high castle. Showing how Japanese America bomber would have been used in thier invasion on West coast in that alternative reality
The thing would present a massive target for guns on ships and planes in the air. It would have to fly very low to even have a chance at hitting a moving ship like an aircraft carrier.
The early jet engines did have poor fuel consumption: about 1kg thrust for 1.2 fuel burn but they could have reached the range to bomb the US East Coast from Europe and return with the right design. Two things have to be noted. Jets cruise much better at high altitude. The parasitic drag of the fuselage and wings disappears due to the thin air whereas the induced drag (byproduct of creating lift) approaches about 60:1. The trick was to cruise at a high altitude say 45,000ft where air density was only 1/5th, have small wings that support the aircraft through its high speed rather than size and use high lift devices to control landing speed. The Germans had conducted successful hose/drogue type in flight refueling in 1943 between Ju 252 and Ju 290 aircraft and also planed to use this. See Manfred Griehl's "Luftwaffe over Amerika". The Ho XVIII series was plausible but there weer others.
Ten hours was the lifespan of German jet engines.This is compared to British engines, which lasted at least ten times as long before needing an overhaul.
@ I hear this misinformation but the German Jet engines all the time. It’s completely incorrect. The meantime between overalls was 25 hours. At that time the six combustion chamber cans which were a mild steel were removed and replaced and also the turbine removed recycled and replaced. Every six hours it was a minor overall in which the six fuel injector nozzles was replaced but this was a job with the engine remaining on the aircraft. In many cases the crew chiefs pulled the engines more frequently. The engines were not thrown away. They were removed replaced and the engines were given maintenance in the form of a new turbine blade. This was necessary because of the low nickel content of the turbine blades, men they suffered from creep.
@@williamzk9083 German jet engines from WWII were hopeless. Due to the lack of the correct alloys, they needed a complete overhaul. This meant they spent more time on the ground than in the air. For the effort the Germans wasted on the technology, they could have built a few thousand conventional piston-engined aircraft, which might have turned the tide of the Allied bomber offensive.
Development was initiated in January 1943 and a design and manufacturing facility built in Mitaka, Tokyo. Nakajima's 4-row 36-cylinder 5,000 hp Ha-54 (Ha-505) engine was abandoned as too complex. Project Z was cancelled in July 1944, and the Fugaku was never built. Grand delusions by Japan. They just didn't have the technology.
The Japanese got stumped trying to replicate the first DC-4 prototype after they purchased it ... and now we are supposed to believe that they intended to outdo the Superfort?
I'm glad Japan lacked the common sense to be able to halt its obession with mega projects. Its cherished belief in building "ultimate" weapons ( Yamato/Mushashi/Shinano) helped slow down its ability to create what it really needed and had the capability of producing. Things like high altitude interceptors and fleets of anti-submarine vessels.
Japan focused on naval strategy and seaborne attacks, rather than developing plans for direct attacks on the US mainland by aircraft. Japanese campaigns revolved primarily around controlling the Pacific and Southeast Asia, with the goal of seizing important resource areas, rather than carrying out a direct invasion of the US mainland.
I refuse to watch or patronize any website or YT channel that embeds adverts in it's videos. So.... have a nice day amigo. Yours is now added to a list of channels that I will NEVER watch again.
Fascinating to learn that Japanese Strategic planning in 1942 was done with 1980's teenage wargaming levels of imagination. Selling it to the Germans would have made all the difference!
So if you're building towards being able to do an hour long compilation of WWII super heavies from different powers and already have the Horten Ho.18 and now the Japanese G10M, I'd like to get a video on the British, Vickers Type-C. It is basically a twin wig canard layout
I have to make a correction. There was no understanding yet of the jet stream as it lies at higher altitudes that the US B29 bombers were the First to encounter. Thus then creating an understanding
The Gunship variant reminds me very strongly of the YB-40 (B-17 escort gunship), and I suspect it would have had the same downside (same weight on the return flight, and thus lagging behind its now lighter bomber charges).
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Gaijin: I might add this after the G8N1 Bomber
No they don't. They'd rather copy-paste another country's purchased planes at top tier as a sub-tier
Case in point: Thai Air Force in the new update
They should add it
*after Ki-91
Not happening, this thing was never built
@@sundhaug92 it could happen, considering they added the r2y2 into the game. so its not a far fetched idea
People often talk about captain winter saving the soviets but no one mentions the even greater role played by commander ocean for the US.
General* Put some respect to his name
@LastGoatKnight *Admiral
I'm not sure this is as big of mind blow as you think it is. The US had that exact same problem to overcome. We just did it better than the Axis did.
The Japanese weren't shit and the pacific is huge . We got there just fine
@@Azazel2024 People are so accustomed to US supremacy that they forget we had to fight to get to our current global position. It's taken as ground truth instead of a century long balancing act.
While I don't disagree with what you said entirely, the Japanese were fierce fighters. But, on the other hand, they made some monumentally stupid decisions that we took advantage of. Had they made marginally better choices the war would have gone very differently.
My only caveheat is that Japan had no intentions of invading the U.S. mainland. Maybe as far east as Hawaii, but the whole "rifle behind every blade of grass" wasn't just Yamamoto blowing smoke.
*caveat
Yeah I'm not sure where that comes from. Japan nor Germany had the intent or capability to "conquer" America and the world. Why do they need to? By looking at a simple map of the time, The Allies, in particular the French & British had already conquered the world.
Just seems like lazy regurgitated propaganda seen all over RUclips & academia, speaking from experience as an American school goer.
Well Yamamoto never said that... and the video is beyond slow in its assessment of the situation. It is talking about designs of planes being almost as good as them existing. Ive read complete fiction that has more actual fact in it than this video.
@@thomgizziz Several quotes are attributed to Adm. Yamamoto which he never exactly said. These quotes did, however, reflect his sentiments and what he told his colleagues in the Imperial high command and the Imperial government. Yamamoto had lived in the United States on two separate occasions, first as a postgraduate student and later as a naval attache. He was fluent in English and understood the American people and what the military potential of America was very well.
Yamamoto might have been a lousy grand admiral at that, but he is revered in America as a philosopher of war.
Well yeah, thats what this channel is. @thomgizziz
The Nakajima G10 would have made a great long range airliner after the war.
Only for a few years. Jet technology advanced incredibly within 10 years
It seems perhaps yeah! The notion of ferrying crude oil on an airplane seems ridiculous. But carrying around people and pallets of cell phones is good business!
@@xxGravyBabyxxdepends, if the plane is decently maintained (doubtful) and the US is not interested in giving the post-war governments large jet engined planes, I could see this thing operate until the late 50s, early 60s
They tried that with the Lancaster, total failure. When the B58 flopped (a truly magnificent aircraft) there was talk of putting passengers in the pod for the thrill of it. Windows & meals may have been a problem but who cares!
it will be loud af, remember soviet once convert tu 95 bomber to become an airliner, with 4 counter rotating engines it was loud enough, let alone 6 counter rotating engines
The Japanese Army and Navy were fighting against each more then the Alies.
it was like a company with 2 different branches
*than
Prior to the Meiji Restoration Japan was ruled by a number of clans and one of these powerful clans came to dominate the Army and another the Navy
A two headed snake always starves...
That's an exaggeration
Fun Fact : The manufacturer of this plane, was re-branded and known as Subaru (cars, planes...)
And make some of the parts for Shinkansen and Boeing
Tell me you didn’t watch the full video without telling me..😂
Subaru is actually Aichi Aircraft original name
Even funner fact. The Yamato gun manufacturer still exists. It makes JSDF Type 10/16 canons. Or anything related to steel tubes for high pressure.
Here's another fun fact: this plane was featured in the 2019 anime The Magnificent Kotobuki.
Just friggin great! We bought a Subaru Crosstrek as our "last new car ever". Well, better than buying a rotary Mazda with a Nazi engine or a Porsche, makers of the Panzer tank.
So basically, the Japanese version of the b32 but larger
*B36
@@yoseipilot B32 was introduced sooner than the B36, so B32 is a perfectly viable example here.
@@ASlickNamedPimpback Except for performance, B-32 range 6100 km, B-36 had 16,000 km much more like this plane. The US put the B-36 on low priority then existing bombers could do the work.
And yes Japan had an critical fuel shortage at the later part of the war.
@@magnemoe1 Almost as if it was a version of that plane but BIGGER
And you know never existed or was even close to existing.
13:50 The B-52 was the first jet bomber with that kind of range, and that took the US another ten years.
JIM the only way the b52 could achieve it's range was the introduction of midair refueling. The max bomb load is 70 to 80 k pounds. So fuel was the key. Light load of fuel on take off. Meet up with tanker n fuel up and presto 8k to 12 k miles depending on flying conditions.
All these ridiculous "what ifs", will have the fan boys creaming their pants in their mother's basements.
fuck I never really thought about it that way, the B52 wasnt even 7 years after WW2, and its got another quarter century of service left
The aircraft would have to cross hostile , american and canadian air space and then fly over Iceland (a huge airbase) Fly over the north sea within range of fighter aircraft from Great Britain. Then land and refule in Europe, in range of allied bombers. Then cross Soviet airspace to get back to Japan
Yes plan had some problems, the above are the smaller ones compared to industrial capacity and fuel.
The Germans and Japanese tried to cooperate but the distance between them was too large and required a 3-5 month submarine journey. Several u-boats and IJN submarines were lost. For the allies the journey could be conducted by aircraft say between Newfoundland and Liverpool or northern Ireland (about 3700km or 2200 miles) or on a fast ship that was too fast for a u-boat to catch.
All these ridiculous "what ifs", will have the fan boys creaming their pants in their mother's basements.
The axis fought the war in the wrong order to me. If the soviet union was invaded by Germany and Japan in 1941 no one wouldve come to their aid. It would be a war on 2 fronts. Next would be north africa and the suez canal. Next is Britain. Without Pearl Harbour the USA would keep out of it. @@williamzk9083
Fun fact: this plane was featured as an antagonist aircraft in episode 10 of the 2019 anime The Magnificent Kotobuki.
There is actually an anime called Deep Blue Fleet that has a scene where a formation of G10n’s use their machine guns to intercept German TA-400 bombers
That anime was beautiful. Shame that the translated episodes aren't still complete (yet?) when I watched it again recently. It's quite old too.
the 4 engine japanese plane is dubbed ranryuu (嵐龍-storm dragon), a bomber strafer with 4 rows of 20mm vulcans placed on schrage-musik fashion, 2 rows for ventral and dorsal position. And the german bomber in the show was jormungandr.
紺碧の艦隊のことかな？
外国人にも知られてるんだね
@@old2615 yes. I've seen a few of the episodes and quite enjoy it. I enjoy the concept of alternate history. Especially WW2 era.
@@daylight39 [some spoilers] I know that I've said it up there...but, just in case, do you know if it is completely translated into English now? It's only up until episode 22 and one OVA about the development of an aircraft called Sourai. And there's like 10 more episodes to go. (32 total)
_I really, really badly would want to know what will happen to the Indian and European Theaters already._
Look at what was involved in D-Day just crossing the 20 mile English Channel with Air superiority . How do you invade North America crossing a 2,000 mile Ocean with the largest Navy and Airforce waiting for you?
Japan was forced into a war they did not want
All they wanted was the exact same playing field the Colonials had back then. Placing sanctions on Japan while Euro was on Empire Fests is beyond any sort of thinking.
@@stronzer59 No one forced Japan into any war. Their dreams of empire were delusional even in the best-case scenario. They were the oriental Italy.
@@stronzer59 do you have any idea what Japan did to the people they conquered? they were as cruel as the Nazi's were to anyone who was not Japanese.
@@StevenRogers-hw9dj cannot find a brain cell to respond to Oriental Italy, what sort of Kappo nonsense is that??
@@stronzer59 The only reason Japan got sanctioned was because it was butchering its way through China, killing millions
the G10N was one of the first "what if" designs i found, i love the absolutely crazy ideas that Japanese designers came up with. they really should get a lot more attention. another suggestion could be the KX-03, an absolutely MASSIVE 500-ton flying boat designed by Kawanishi in 1943, and was to be powered by 12 radial engines and 6 jet engines.
All these ridiculous "what ifs", will have the fan boys creaming their pants in their mother's basements.
The Japanese had no intention of ever invading the US Mainland. In point of fact they were well aware that they had neither the troops or equipment necessary to do so. The Japanese feared the American public in that they were well armed and willing to use deadly force outside the military command structure to defend their homes and families. This still stands today for many of our enemies. Americans will drop their internal issues and pick up their weapons to defend against any attempted invasion.
So this is basically the japanese b36
This bomber was a pipe dream, just like the Amerkabomber and Operation Sea Lion because from both technical and operational standpoints their problems all overlap.
1. Building the Bombers - The US could build huge bombers like the B-29 and the then proposed B-35 and B-36 because their factories were essentially immune from attack, and had no issues obtaining the raw materials needed to run the factories. Neither Germany or Japan could secure the supply chain or assembly plants needed to make their prized bombers.
2. Using them for strategic bombing - foregoing issue 1 above, the length of the sorties would mean each aircraft is flying maybe one sortie per month since a single mission would be something on the order of 36-48 hours and then you need a stand down for aircraft and crew to recover and prepare for the next sortie. Compare that to a B-17 where a typical mission was 8-12 hours and normally flying a sortie every 7-10 days. Then compare numbers, where bombing raids of 1000 aircraft were fairly common by B-17s and B-24s but you never saw such volume from B-29s because those more complex and expensive bombers did not exist in such quantity as to make such a read feasible. The supermassive Axis bombers would suffer the same condition.
3. Using them for Airborne assault and supply - this is where I will reference operation sealion. The issue is there was no chance Germany could have invaded Britain in force. Sure they could land small units to do sabotage and other nuisance and morale breaking but to hold a beachhead would need a constant stream of supply of both men and material. The Allies assembled a fleet of over 1000 ships for operation overlord, and had complete air dominance over the battlefield and complete naval control over the channel. There is no possibility Germany could do any of those things to invade Britain. Sure they had the Gigant gliders that could have been built in numbers but they could not carry heavy weapons like main battle tanks, and still there is the problem of lacking air superiority to protect those very vulnerable gliders. Now consider that same issue for Japan, but now crossing over the largest ocean on Earth rather than 50-80 miles of English Channel. Even if Japan had 10,000 of those bombers they would need to secure and hold a beachhead in the US with by my estimation only around 300 flights per day. Call that 4500 troops, their beans, bullets, and bandages, and a small number of medium weapons such as light tanks and trucks per day to fight off the entire US and Canadian Military, or put another way what the Allies were discharging every hour or so on Normandy but also including heavy weaponry and air support.
Right, and for contrast- Lemay was bombing Japan 24-7 for a month leading up to Enola Gay's flight.
The entire idea of this was patently ridiculous. Even as early as the Battle of the Coral Sea, Japan was already having issues with the aircraft pipeline getting replacement aircraft to the front. Japan did design and build some excellent aircraft towards the end of the war, but the biggest issue was the metallurgy needed to produce more powerful engines that operated at higher temperatures and were more economical. Even with Germany providing technical specs and engineers, along with samples of the DB 600 series on inverted-vee 12 cylinder engine, Japan had issues producing it in quantity for use in the excellent Ki-61 Tony. The idea that they could come up with the resources to even attempt to build an aircraft of that magnitude was fatuous at best. Their attempts at aircraft pressurization were a disaster. And by the time of Operation Hailstone in February 1944, which obliterated Truk as a major base, the writing was on the wall and any fanciful ideas like this one were consigned to the scrap heap.
I mean a lot of the projects on this channel were pipe dreams
The other problem with this fantasy was that the Western US coast was bristling with USAAF airfields, USN bases, aircraft carriers, fighters and bombers all up and down the entire coast, any attempted attack would have been met with considerable resistance.
@@tauncfester3022 Exactly, These planes would have had no real chance to even reach their west coast targets. I am very sure that the United States had picket ships from Alaska to west of Hawaii all down to the Panama Canal. Any aircraft, even very high altitude ones. Would have been picked up when they were 2,000-3,000 miles out and a warning sent out. By the time they made it to the west coast. They would have been met by P-51's and P-47's. Both with exceptional high altitude capabilities and more than enough firepower to down these large planes. Just so that these planes could fly so far. Japan would have had to make them as well as they made the A6M Zero. Super thin skins, no armor, no self sealing fuel tanks.
The gear wasn’t intended to be completely jettisoned, it was calculated that the heavy gear needed to support the fully loaded bomber would not be needed once the bombs and fuel had been expended and part of the gear could be dropped
Well, my little Mazda 6 really doesn't evoke images of the Fugaku in my mind, but still has proven to be an outstanding car.
A couple of problems with the bombing plan of Mainland U.S.A. as is being presented here, Japan knew that winds were blowing Eastward and took advantage of it to carry their firebomb balloons but these were relatively low velocity and somewhat sporadic and they did not even know about the Jet Stream as we know it today. The U.S. didn't either until it was encountered by the high flying B29s in 1945 as the bombing campaign of Japan started, these winds were wreaking havoc with the first high altitude bombing missions until it was better understood. Then the part about bombing the Soviet Union on their return flight, Japan was not at war with the USSR until the very end of the war and would not have provoked war with them to help Germany.
It made me smile to see early in the video that your picture of a U.S. factory assembling bombers shows the B-32 Dominator.
A warplane that almost missed out on being able to fly combat missions.
WoopWoop! Always love waking up to a F&E video on a Saturday. =3
The plane they intended to use, the tactics they devised-it’s like stepping into an alternate timeline. A must-watch for any WWII history buff.
Yay im so happy its been many years in decade to make fugaku plane thank you found and explained.
All these ridiculous "what ifs", will have the fan boys creaming their pants in their mother's basements.
Burning gasoline to haul oil is ridiculous. This whole concept is ludicrous.
Oil tankers
It'll be okay lil buddie
You should probably not be too narrow minded. It's the only way you can accurately perceive this history.
The Allies were indiscriminately sinking any ship that wasn't theirs. So much so that the Allies even "accidentally" sank thousands of Allied POW's being shipped through the empire. The bulk of the sunken ships were oil tankers and food shipping.
Mainland Japan produced little to no oil. (3mil barrels a year, half of which was synthetic garbage). The only realistic way was by air. Which they didn't do, but was a proposed idea in the video. It isn't the worst idea considering they had no other option.
Flying the Hump to supply B-29 bases in China was similarly flawed.
@@billwebb9643 At least those DC3s were hauling refined gasoline instead of crude oil. Nobody ships crude oil by air. It's silly.
Such a big and weird concept I love your channel is always Founded explain, never disappoints
All these ridiculous "what ifs", will have the fan boys creaming their pants in their mother's basements.
Did he really say “bail out once the mission was complete”? Do you know how they operated? You were the final piece of ammunition.
That clip from Man in The High Castle showing the IJN under the Golden Gate Bridge is always impressive.
The animations continue to be amazing.. is there a course. You even include the flare when the ship is torpedo's.. nice work
With 150M armed citizens I really don't think Japan was planning a US invasion.
Look how hard D-Day was crossing 20 miles of the English Channel with air superiority.
How was Japan crossing 3,000 miles of Ocean and getting through the US Navy and airforce?
@@Crashed131963japan almost did it with balloons. However only small of it arrive on usa, some even back to japan hit themself
General: who’s gonna escort the G10N?
Designer: another G10N, with Lots of Guns!
I’m pretty sure the designer have some sketches of a AC130ish variant like tucked away, with autocannons and howitzers in the bombing bay.
After all Japanese had a thing for derp guns.
8:33 then that's not an invasion per se, that's a raid. An invasion would mean they would stay there and occupy territory, which was not their intent here, it would seem.
Operation Eisenhammer would be interesting
I tend to notice dictators are detached from reality
Dictators bring invaders.
Dictators. Are they weapon designers?
Hmm. The balloon thing is looking better all the time.
All these ridiculous "what ifs", will have the fan boys creaming their pants in their mother's basements.
Remember the "Pearl Harbor" movie, where the American General stated 'if they (Japanese) invaded now, they'd .....get as far as Chicago before we could stop them". Japan didn't have the shipping or logistics to even launch an invasion force, let alone, keep it supplied. They could, however, cause a lot of damage and chaos by launching suicide air raids from carriers, against US harbors and aircraft factories.
Amusing tale about the engine. The Pratt&Whitney R-4360 Wasp Major was also a four row radial -- and getting it to cool properly was the major project in its development. Which, however, was solved brilliantly, and the engine went on to become one of the most powerful of the last great piston engines.
Not really a “tale” - I think everyone knows that lol. 🙄
Kawasaki actually managed to build a prototype and it would be made of steel but was destroyed in a bombing raid
Why would you build an aircraft of steel?
@@sandgrownun66 because japan had no aluminium
@@sandgrownun66because jet fuel can’t melt it!!!
No one ever talks about the successful sabotage of two dozen factories by Axis agents.
All the factories were repaired and running inside a week, but it was impressive work for the tiny handful of agents.
Astonishing optimism. Of these humongous piston-engine bombers, only America managed to make the Convair B-36 and it wasn't available until well after the end of WW2.
The UK planned some too then decided it was getting a bit silly.
@@wbertie2604 Maybe they just wanted a nonstop to Los Angeles
The Russian bear exists
@@jonnyblayze5149 I agree but it is considerably more modern than these contraptions
I'm from Washington, and I can only say, having the troops move on foot from Sea-Tac to Renton is really smart. They'll beat the traffic handily, and make much better time.
Seriously though... there is no way this was a serious plan for them. There are so many significant problems with their plane, production capacity, fuel/ general logistics, troop numbers to undertake something this batshit insane via airplane vs their navy assets, which were much better suited to such operations even though they were still completely unsuited to such a birdbrained idea... At the end of the day, the American production capacity and logistical mastery were what they were really fighting. I wish I still had the link or name to the video of ship production between the US vs Japanese Empire... Anyone who knows anything about he beauty of logistical systems can look at that five or six minute video, and any talk about wonder weapons between Japan and Germany will sound about as viable as me claiming that I have this super cool time machine I invented, and am offering for you to try... (you just need to put the crystals in the crystal receptacle and plug this wire into any electrical socket...). You watch the production numbers stay at rough parity... briefly... then the US is all of a sudden shitting out warships and transports (and ice cream barges... because how else are we going to get the ice cream into the middle of the fucking Pacific?) like its free taco night at a roadside taco stand, where it's literally always free taco night for some reason...
Like, the spies Japan must've had in the mainland US must've been pretty unnerved... "yeah... another fleet carrier just got launced... that's what? Number 8 or 9 now? And the guy watching the smaller yards keeps saying that new "jeep carriers" keep sliding into the water seemingly every other week... I don't know what that means, but I don't like that the second word is also "carrier... oh, and I lost count of the fleet destroyers... it's a lot though... and the guys in Tacoma said something about escort destroyers for their fleet destroyers... So... I guess the destroyers now have destroyers escorting them to whatever they're gonna be destroying... so. How uh... how are we doing back home?"
It's one of the things that kept breaking my immersion with The Man in the High Castle... The logistics of different systems has always been interesting to me, and the idea that somehow Japan managed to pull off a logistical undertaking capable of toppling the US in any way shape of form with what they were working with is just... kinda silly...
Basically a gigantic japanese TU-95
B36
The Tu-95s counterpart is the B-52. Very different eras in aviation - just look at the wing. Of course the biggest difference is the incredibly efficient turboprop engines.
Basically, nothing. All these ridiculous "what ifs", will have the fan boys creaming their pants in their mother's basements.
Worlds 8'th wonder, Nakajima got the IJN and IJA to the same room AND AGREE ON SOMETHING!
I like the one designed by 10 year olds. "Give it 10,000 machine guns and 4, no 5! No 6 engines and 12 propellers!"
Round trip from Tokyo to Seattle is ~9600 miles
Great pie in the sky video!
Never existed except as a drawing, the B-29 attacking, high altitude Aichi S21A2 was only in two prototypes that weren't yet airworthy as of July of 1945.
Long range bomber with contra-rotating propellers - ??- so, a Tupolev TU-95 "Bear" , but 10 year early ?? LOL
It’s worth noting that the mountains in the west make China basically an island too.
the fact the G8N and G5N existed and were in production japan really did go down kicking
All these ridiculous "what ifs", will have the fan boys creaming their pants in their mother's basements.
Illustration of the factory in operation @11:15 shows a super-bomber being built. The airplane is the B-29 an airplane not on Japanese drawing boards.
LOL! The Japanese lost the war as soon as they failed to sink any of the American aircraft carriers at Pearl Harbor. The Battle of Midway 7 months later put the nail in the coffin for them even holding on to the territory they had gained.
Excactly . They were absolutely a problem but also backwards and militaristic
It did not matter if the US lost at Midway. The US industrial strength was alway going to have a much larger Navy than Japan .
The US has 3 large fleet carriers during Midway. 2 years later the US has 28 large Carriers and 70 smaller escort carriers.
If Japan sank 3 US ships to ever one of their own ships , japan would have lost all there ships well before the US. WW2 was simple math .
@@Crashed131963 The US didn’t built 28 large carriers and 70 escort carriers in 2 years…
research more… the Japanese would still have more opportunities after at Midway.
@@yoseipilot Two years after Midway is June 1944.
In 1944 the US out produced Japan and Germany combined in every thing. .
By 1944 the US had the largest Navy in the world easily. By 1944 80% of the US navy ships were not built during the battle of midway .
Japan Had no opportunities but to wait for the US War Production out produce Japan 6 to 1 in every thing by 1944.
Japan lost the war on its way to Pearl harbor .
@@Crashed131963 US Production for Navy is only 3 to 1 against Japan, the Americans produced only 7 Fleet Carriers per year and they almost lost their entire fleet carriers in the end of 1942.
If the Japanese succeed their operations, they would still have 8 fleet carriers to outnumber against the Americans each half year battle.
Japan didn’t lost the war after Pearl Harbor (they would win the war) and even after Midway (there would be no winner from both sides after Pacific War), only losing at Guadalcanal Campaign causing losing the Pacific War.
Kinda reminds me of my insane plane to strap wings to my bicycle and fly when i was 8 years old.
2:37 the plan
Every allied and soviet fighter in existence: allow us to introduce ourselves
It's amazing - and quite interesting - how the laws of physics invariably bring engineers - operating independently from different countries - to the same technological dead-ends. Pratt & Whitney (USA) DID develop a 28-cylinder, twin-supercharger, 4-row radial engine putting out an impressive 4300 HP, around the same time, slightly earlier, in 1944...the Wasp Major R-4360. And it too was a maintenance nightmare with chronic overheating issues leading to rapid piston/ring wear and spark plug issues. In other words, there were limitations in terms of how large and powerful a radial engine, realistically, could be built before reliability went out the window. I say WERE because it's important to understand that the above problems were VERY relative to the metallurgy of mid 19th century. Obviously, these problems were overcome when large aircraft eventually shifted to turboshaft (jet) engines. Important to remember that radial engines were CONCEIVED around the fundamental of superior (air) cooling - with cooling fins - compared to inline engines - specifically because radial engines have their cylinders arranged in a star pattern, directly in front of the aircraft's air flow. When extra rows of cylinders are added, cooling the rearward rows of cylinders, without compromising engine output and aerodynamic efficiency, becomes challenging. These WWII era radials were made from cast steel. If aluminum alloys had been sufficiently developed, not only would these engines have cooled more efficiently, they would also have been lighter. Contemporary electronic fuel injection could also, hypothetically, be used to more carefully control fuel/air mixture to help manage engine temperature - understanding that a richer mixture causes an engine to run cooler.
Therapist: Japanese B29 isn’t real, it can’t hurt you
Me:
It’s Japanese B-36
Fu-Go fire balloons could only reach North America on the winter jet stream patterns, at the time of the season when northwestern forests were wet. No forest fires resulted from this campaign.
"Fire balloons". What a waste of time.
Government vs Army vs Army vs Navy vs Navy vs Navy vs Design Bureaus and Engineers vs the United States
That was basically Japan in WWII
Flying across the entire continental United States, did they think we wouldn’t notice?
Play gacha life with me uwu
Yeah doesn't make a whole lot of sense does it? Lol the Japanese at the time were pitifully overconfident
Learning that nakajima is the predecessor to Subaru was a bombshell lmao. I never knew that.
What's the Japanese film, about the plane, called?
さらば空中戦艦富嶽 幻のアメリカ本土空襲1
The outrageous fantasy? That would be a realistic title.
@osmolindqvist1567 do you know where I can find it? Google has been less than helpful.
@@osmolindqvist1567 ??
@@jimroberts3009 Copy the text and search with it on RUclips. You'll find the episode featuring the clips.
Interesting brief, thanks for posting it.. But your facts are off at time stamp 8:42. Sea-Tac airport didn't become "a thing" until September of 1947. Seattle's Boeing Field was the only commercial airfield in King county during WWII.
Wow, what an amazing video. I didn't know that association with Subaru. For the little car that could and did, my mom gave me her 83 Subaru GL 5-speed when I rec'd my license in high school. A fun little car and pretty rambunctious to drive!
This is pure NCD . Love it
lol, The angle of the thumbnail image made it look like there were 3 engines on each wing and additional engines on the tail.
It reminds me of the Russian Bear Bomber with those Counter Rotating Propellers.
Fugaku was revived as a petascale supercomputer.
For this to succeed they would have had to start developing it prior to WW2. The B-29 was technically rushed into service before it was ready which is why it had magnesium engine parts that once on fire burned ferociously and usually melted the main wing spar. For example I would compare the G-10 program with the B-36 peacemaker, the B-36 BTW was designed along a similar route with the intent being an intercontinental bomber. The specs were drawn up in 1941 assuming England would fall to Germany and we would need to bomb Germany from the United States. The first B-36 prototype didn’t fly until sometime in 1946 or 1947. This despite the massive resources poured into its development. The resources to develop such an aircraft are significantly draining and the B-36 wouldn’t have existed if there hadn’t been a need to deploy very large nuclear weapons. The B-50 ( a seriously improved B-29 with the flaws ironed out) just wasn’t large enough to carry some of the massive early nuclear bombs. The B-36 was a stopgap until ICBMs gained the reach to hit targets far away. If you look at the later B-36 models with the 4 extra jets hung under the wing, you’ll see an increasingly vulnerable bomber trying to just make it a bit longer. By the time Boeing developed the B-47 and later B-52 the bombs got smaller and more sophisticated and you didn’t need a bomb the size of a 1 ton truck to ensure accuracy. Honestly the G-10 probably would have needed years of development to get the design ironed out and working properly. This is kinda hard when B-29s are raining fire on your civilian workforce. Both Germany and Japan started heavy long range bomber development far too late to have any success. The closest Germany got was the HE-177 Greif or griffon. An unreliable fire prone nightmare of a bomber with 2 nacelles holding 2 coupled DB-605 inverted V-12s. The rear engine in this arrangement had a nasty tendency to catch on fire owing to inadequate cooling. The 177 was still a medium bomber trying to cosplay as a heavy one. Japan never really got started cause the G4M was despite its range still a medium bomber. The US by contrast had developed the XB-15 in the 1930s and the B-17 not long after the XB-15s untimely destruction. The B-24 was also being developed in the 1930s so America had a 10 plus year start on long range heavy bombers. Both Germany and Japan would have needed to start then as well but they never did
All these ridiculous "what ifs", will have the fan boys creaming their pants in their mother's basements.
Excellent video ! Now please explain the Japanse 120 ton super heavy tank, *O-I* ! ! !
For some reason, military are capable to make faster bigger bomber rather than making it for airline use
When I was stationed at Picatinny Arsenal NJ in the 2010s, the locals would say "oh, thats where the explosion happened"
I looked it up, they were talking about the Hurculese Powder Plant explosion in nearby Kent NJ just before WW2. Amazingly, that left such an impression they still talked about it today.
If you read Prequel by Rachel Maddow, she reveals that exactly 1 month later, 3 more weapons plants exploded in 2 different states...all within 1 hour of each other.
Thats not an accident.
Thats an attack.
The American industrial was almost unscathed, as you said, but if someone asks in what way did the Axis attack our industry, thats one possible example.
It is good that the Japanese and the Germans didn't work well together. The Japanese submarine aircraft carriers launched V1s or the Fieseler Fi 103R. It could have caused some problems for the US. If nothing else, it would have forced the US to improve air defense and anti-submarine measures.
Invade the US by sea? ROTFL. A concept as plausible as a cow jumping over the moon.
I think I only know about this plane because of Strikers 1945 II. The same game that made me know about the Shinden and Flying Pancake.
I thought the thumbnail showed the empenage having an extra empenage and engines on the elevator 😂😂
They did not have a fraction of the industrial capacity to even begin building it
imagine making an expensive plane just to bail out
If you like these sort of videos then Rex's Hangar is a recommend too.
It would be interesting to do pre equally series to man in high castle.
Showing how Japanese America bomber would have been used in thier invasion on West coast in that alternative reality
The thing would present a massive target for guns on ships and planes in the air. It would have to fly very low to even have a chance at hitting a moving ship like an aircraft carrier.
That FOS video is actually comical!
My daughter is an artist and drew her own jet. Awesome drawing, futuristic looking, we call its AF-99. lol
Just finished my listening of La Follia variations by Vivaldi and it pops out again on a video about a ww2 japanese bomber project, what are the odds
WarThunder needs to add this and the B-36 Peacemaker with its different versions.
It wouldn't have worked with thirsty German jets
The engines would have barely made the round trip without an overhaul
They also have them the early version of the jumo engine which sucked
The early jet engines did have poor fuel consumption: about 1kg thrust for 1.2 fuel burn but they could have reached the range to bomb the US East Coast from Europe and return with the right design. Two things have to be noted. Jets cruise much better at high altitude. The parasitic drag of the fuselage and wings disappears due to the thin air whereas the induced drag (byproduct of creating lift) approaches about 60:1. The trick was to cruise at a high altitude say 45,000ft where air density was only 1/5th, have small wings that support the aircraft through its high speed rather than size and use high lift devices to control landing speed. The Germans had conducted successful hose/drogue type in flight refueling in 1943 between Ju 252 and Ju 290 aircraft and also planed to use this. See Manfred Griehl's "Luftwaffe over Amerika". The Ho XVIII series was plausible but there weer others.
Ten hours was the lifespan of German jet engines.This is compared to British engines, which lasted at least ten times as long before needing an overhaul.
@ I hear this misinformation but the German Jet engines all the time. It’s completely incorrect. The meantime between overalls was 25 hours. At that time the six combustion chamber cans which were a mild steel were removed and replaced and also the turbine removed recycled and replaced. Every six hours it was a minor overall in which the six fuel injector nozzles was replaced but this was a job with the engine remaining on the aircraft. In many cases the crew chiefs pulled the engines more frequently. The engines were not thrown away. They were removed replaced and the engines were given maintenance in the form of a new turbine blade. This was necessary because of the low nickel content of the turbine blades, men they suffered from creep.
@@williamzk9083 German jet engines from WWII were hopeless. Due to the lack of the correct alloys, they needed a complete overhaul. This meant they spent more time on the ground than in the air. For the effort the Germans wasted on the technology, they could have built a few thousand conventional piston-engined aircraft, which might have turned the tide of the Allied bomber offensive.
Development was initiated in January 1943 and a design and manufacturing facility built in Mitaka, Tokyo. Nakajima's 4-row 36-cylinder 5,000 hp Ha-54 (Ha-505) engine was abandoned as too complex. Project Z was cancelled in July 1944, and the Fugaku was never built. Grand delusions by Japan. They just didn't have the technology.
For those who wants to look at the Japanese documentary on it, search with following title: さらば空中戦艦富嶽 幻のアメリカ本土空襲1
The Japanese got stumped trying to replicate the first DC-4 prototype after they purchased it ... and now we are supposed to believe that they intended to outdo the Superfort?
😂😂 Both Japan and Germany thought about the long game, future recourses and what may happen if internal governments disagree.... not 😂
I'm glad Japan lacked the common sense to be able to halt its obession with mega projects. Its cherished belief in building "ultimate" weapons ( Yamato/Mushashi/Shinano) helped slow down its ability to create what it really needed and had the capability of producing. Things like high altitude interceptors and fleets of anti-submarine vessels.
Glad to have seen this video. I have a model kit of the G10 bomber but have not assembled it Hope to see a video on the beautiful G8N bomber.
Japan focused on naval strategy and seaborne attacks, rather than developing plans for direct attacks on the US mainland by aircraft. Japanese campaigns revolved primarily around controlling the Pacific and Southeast Asia, with the goal of seizing important resource areas, rather than carrying out a direct invasion of the US mainland.
I refuse to watch or patronize any website or YT channel that embeds adverts in it's videos. So.... have a nice day amigo. Yours is now added to a list of channels that I will NEVER watch again.
Fascinating to learn that Japanese Strategic planning in 1942 was done with 1980's teenage wargaming levels of imagination. Selling it to the Germans would have made all the difference!
As a teenage wargamer in the 70s, I can relate to this comment.
Gr8 clip, Japanese WWII detailed history is not easy to find
So if you're building towards being able to do an hour long compilation of WWII super heavies from different powers and already have the Horten Ho.18 and now the Japanese G10M, I'd like to get a video on the British, Vickers Type-C.
It is basically a twin wig canard layout
I have to make a correction. There was no understanding yet of the jet stream as it lies at higher altitudes that the US B29 bombers were the First to encounter. Thus then creating an understanding
no kidding! all the sources said it was known at the time, but thats very good point
The Gunship variant reminds me very strongly of the YB-40 (B-17 escort gunship), and I suspect it would have had the same downside (same weight on the return flight, and thus lagging behind its now lighter bomber charges).
Looks like a mega Focke Wulf Condor. Japan did make some very good looking planes, and that one would have been very handsome
I'm really glad that these never flew over our skies. 😮💨🇺🇸
I made a scuffed version of this in KSP a while ago, very cool!