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My personal favorite weird Nazi plane was the Natter. A disposable vertical take off fighter that used solid fuel rockets as weapons. Once the mission was over the pilot ejected both himself and the rocket engine. It flew once, then exploded.
@@carltonleboss well the rocket engine yes. It was the same engine that was used in the Me-163 Komet rocket plane and was worth it. The Natter itself used solid fuel motors for take off as well as the rocket engine. The Natter was disposal and was made of wood. It was basically a manned SAM.
Actually the Natter didn't explode on its first flight, however, it was the first known aircraft to have gone supersonic before anybody had come up with the concept of a supersonic rocket powered reaserch aircraft.
@@johnosbourn4312 G'day, That's a claim which is difficult to reconcile with the fact that the Canopy failed on the only attempt at a Manned Launch for a Test Flight, and the loose Hood knocked the Pilot unconscious shortly after the machine left the Launch Rail...; thus initiating it's fatal Crash as it's next evolutionary achievement. It didn't fly long enough to go Supersonic. As I recall reading. Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
look up Keneth Arnold's sketch of the UFO he described as "flying like saucers skimming the water surface" (he was not talking about the shape) observed during his flight during the numerous sightings before the Roswell incident..
Insane and wholly useless designs which could not have flown properly, at a time when the Germans needed new aircraft immediately. Meanwhile, the British started designing the Canberra in 1944, although the end of the war delayed development and it didn't fly until '49. It's almost as if the German designers were high on amphetamines. Which some of them were.
Horton Ho 229 actually followed the 3 x 1000 idea 1000 km range 1000 Km/h speed 1000 Kg weapon load Ho 16, never of the drawing board, was slated as an intercontinental strategic nuclear bomber
The Horten Brothers designed an "America Bomber" which may have functioned. And it is a fact that this Factory was hidden from much of the Nazi Top, who didn't know about it!
And there never was a Horten 229, since RLM only gave the Designation 8-229 and that Number was passed to Gothaer Waggonfabrik, which was chosen to build that Aircraft as Gotha Go-229A!😉
Well, Horten IX was bomber, not figther, as Me 262, but it was repurposed and also it was first stealth plane ever build, luckily never entered service @@einautofan6685
The best thing about the Silbervogel is that the designer knew it was impossible with the available technology. But he figured that if his government was going to throw away its money on an insane war, he might just use some of that for a project that might be of some use after the war!
Eugen Sänger was a Visionary! Way ahead of his time! He allready thought about re-usable Space-/Aircrafts! There was a black Ramjet Version of a Space Shuttle Transporter (on top) as a Concept in the 90s! That far ahead!😎
i also heard that the project was canned because there were less complicated wunderwaffen pjojects that could already bomb the usa anyway so there was no real reason to bother with basically a space weopon.
The Ho229 wasn't scrapped, it passed Göring's 3x1000* requirement but it was just way too late. I have quite a few books on it, that thing could have had a significant impact on the air war *It's actual topspeed was 965.61 km/h Not the requirement but good enough
No it wouldn’t. There was no technology at the time to make the thousands of adjustements needed to fly a flying wing. The americans had built their own and it failed because of this.
@Dario Montieri actually the u.s. Flying Wing made in the late forties did very well it's just that at the time it wasn't very cost-effective compared to conventional wing and fuselage aircraft but they made literally two versions one that was piston engine driven and then the other that was jet-powered based on the same basic airframe. Both of them had excellent Performance Based on based on their overall design and payload capacity. And there would be no B-2 Spirit or B21 Raider if it wasn't for them.
@@eddieschwab864 Pls translate my Comment in English: Ich kann mich an eine Dokumentation erinnern wo der Northrop Flying Wing als exzellentes Flugzeug dargestellt wurde, aber während der Testphase von der Konkurrenz (Boeing?) sabotiert wurde! Scheinbar war Lobbyismus, Sabotage und Bestechung schon damals ein großes Thema in der Flugzeugindustrie...🤔
@@eddieschwab864 I also believe that politics and timing played a role in prohibiting Northrop's success. His flying wings were intended for a fully Nazi-occupied Europe that thankfully never had to be. As much as I love the XB-35/YB-49, the situation would probably entail more deaths.
In my opinion, The Lippisch P.13a (6:22) was the only one that, among the other lunatic models, made some sense. Design-wise was bold but not entirely weird. The Horten models, starting from 7:56, obviously are the only rational and amazingly well designed models. So ahead of their time!
The Lippisch plans and Lippisch himlself were reused by the US Airforce. He helped design the Delta Dart, Delta Dagger and Hustler. It really was a good design.
@@robertoroberto9798 This is true when one directly compares the technical and scientific skills of yesteryear to those of today. But when viewed "objectively" in terms of time, the Horton Flying Wing could be seen as a potential game changer in an effort to trick the then fledgling RADAR technology
I sincerely hope you do an individual episode on each and everyone of these aircraft. Your content is so good and I love it when you talk about the weird and strange projects keep up the good work.!!
Not all, getting killed by ramming sucks. So only the ones that could work, like the jet bomber. The Triebflügel maybe, not sure if it could work in that configuration.
Indeed, Star Wars was influenced by german Wehrmacht / Luftwaffe fantasies and nightmares (?🤔🤣) of George Lucas... You can see many references to the germans in that movies!😉
We like the HO229 with its big brother, and even that UFO and the ones you liked. They were epic. They are our favourite ones, if we had to choose from this lot.
One aeroplane that wouldn’t have been out of place on this video was the bomber from Raiders Of The Lost Ark. I know it was only a figment of Hollywoods imagination but it was still a great looking aircraft and would have been great to see it actually fly. Great video.🇦🇺
I was watching Raiders today and was like wait a minute, they didn’t have a succesful wing!? That’s what led me here! It was a gorgeous fake aircraft tho.
The Horten 229 did "take off" in the sense that they did have a flying prototype late in 1945 that had several successful test flights (and one not so successful one that was a fault of the Jumo Engine it was equipped with). It just never made it to full scale production before the war ended.
That's what I thought! Though in a bizarre way it would of been good. The cost of development, manufacture and pilot training would have been so high in comparison to just turning out existing designs it would have been more debilitating to the regime than advantageous.
The Ju287 was made from the fact that airspeed/lift on the wings would be the highest by the plane's body this way (And not on the wingtips) and leaving the center of gravity free for the bomb-load. I had some pictures of it with small strips on the wing to prove the airflow from this theory. And a passenger plane was made after the war, with its wings pointed forward. Also a later American fighter had its wings like this.
Some years ago, I went on a mad buying spree. Among the 60-odd still-unbuilt plastic model kits in my closet are 3 Nazi fantasy aircraft. One is the already named Horten GO 229. The others are the 5-prop! Heinkel HE-111 Zwilling and the Arado Ar (E) 555. The particular contribution of these madmen in war and belief-shaping was their theatricality. These craft belong in a Fritz Lang movie. What's missing is a dirigible. (ps--See the '38 Korda 'Shape of Things to Come' for the ultimate flying craft ..)
Triebflügel only looks amazing for Hollywood movies like Captain America!😉 Truth is, the Triebflügel concept doesn't really makes sense at all! Nobody would install Jet-Engines on the end of a rotating wing!🤪
I'd guess deep space communication, in that it could account for Doppler shift in a transmission from something moving away at speeds unimaginable in atmosphere. Other than that, I'm curious if it could be used to keep comms with an object that's re-entering atmosphere as the plasma creates a communication blackout for a time.
I'm interested in aeronautics for all my life, I'm well aquainted with my home country's darker chapters of history and with the technology of this time - and yet I didn't know about some of the concepts shown here which really are obscure. Very interesting, thanks a lot!
8:00 there where several flying prototypes of the Horten Ho 229 so this one in fact took of but not on a large enough scale and to late to alter the war of Air superiority Also some years ago skunkworks did replicate her to a high degree an tested her alleged stealth capabilities, finding them to be more them sufficient if faced of against the British Chain home installation. So much so that they (the researchers), based on these results came to the conclusion that no defence squad sitting on the ground, at reduced alert, would have been airborne fast enough for intercept while in route if a flight of HO 229 were approaching on sea level.
No? The team said that the Horten only had about 80% RCS of the BF-109, mainly due to wooden construction. This gives enough time for any RADAR to detect it and then scramble interceptors to intercept the Horten.
@@robertoroberto9798 if my memory serves me right, it was given in context of approach on sea level. Will edit original comment to give that bit of info, that had fallen in the sofa crack of my memory
@@robertoroberto9798wrong. Radar would have detected it too late, giving allies only minutes to react. They could not have intercepted in time. Northgrop grumman made this statement.
Junkers Ju 287. Why you should not design an aircraft when you have a hangover. Some have said that the Horten HO 229 was a stealth aircraft. The problem with this idea is that this claim did not come about until the 80s when people were looking at stealth technology. One of the Horton brothers saw a chance to get in on it all and made the claim. No such claim existed when the brothers were question just after WW2. The other problem was that one of the components of the glue being used on the aircraft actually increased the radar signature making it easier to be seen by radar.
The U.S. flight-tested an aircraft called the "flying pancake" which had a circular wing and flew quite well despite its circular wing. Similarly, the Lippisch P.13 coal-fired ramjet "Flying Triangle" wasn't as eccentric as it looks in the animation.
"... but unfortunately construction delays it couldn't get enough into service to make a difference..." @4:30 Well, luckily they didn't get enough of them into service to make a difference...
Sure I wouldn’t want a super weapon like that to have entered Nazi service, but I’d would’ve loved to have seen if it would’ve worked. It’s a fascinating idea and design and I love innovation like that. So unfortunately we don’t know if it would’ve worked as planned, but fortunately the war ended so we wouldn’t have to find out.
The Horten concepts for flying wings - far to be insane - really took off very successful. Go and interview the Northrop engineers that spent months in the early 1990s Córdoba, Argentina learning/consulting from Reimar Horten how to design the aerodynamics of a flying wing - the Northrop B-2.
No. The Horton did not influence the design of the B-2 Bomber. Northrop designed the YB-35, one of which crashed and then the YB-49 which was the same aircraft with jet-engines instead. Furthermore, Northrop went and made their own Horton to test the claims of the Horton having stealth capabilities; to which it had none.
@@airyonaspraker1833 , @Kiba the Mechanic You like it or not, it is well known (and documented!) that Northrop engineers spent several months in Córdoba in the late 1989s/early 1990s with Dr. Reimar Horten, then a beloved Emeritus Professor of Aerodynamics in the Univ. of Córdoba. They were not there to enjoy Argentinean asados (barbecues); although I support they had many. They were learning how to solve the problems of longitudinal instabilities that plagued early Flying Wing designs - and were one of the several technical reasons of the demise of the Northrop B-49, forty years before. Consulting Dr. Horten does not demerit neither Jack Northrop achievements nor his company engineers prowess. Now, I suppose that both of you may say emphatically that Bussemann was not influential to Boeing Swept Wing bomber and airline designs, or Lippisch to Convair Delta Wings aircraft ...
2 where build complete, but one crahed in testflights. a third was almoust complete and was under US paperclip visitors finished. 6 in build where scrapped
The Luftwaffe was really innovative! Triebflügel, Ho229 or the Ho "Amerikabomber" are really outstanding. Later the Allied just copied technology. Also the Sänger Project (Silbervogel) was leading. Interessting to see the Ufo's..... perhaps a video regarding operation Highjump would bring more informtion. Thanks for this really fascinating video.
@@eliotjurgensen1421 no - not as early as the brothers Horten! Just lok at the facts! Northrop copied it! No American was an real poineer - they just copied, what has been invented ;-)
Ahem. The Horten 229 project was not "dropped". It was still in development when the war ended. It DID have a significant design flaw in that if one of the engines failed at low airspeed, the control surfaces had insufficient yaw authority to maintain control of the aircraft. Sadly this happened on a test flight, destroying the prototype and killing the pilot.
Actually, the failed engine was also the engine which supported hydraulics in flight, thats why the Prototype went out of control and killed Test Pilot Erwin Ziller...
I like how instead of coming up with a sensible, reliable, and relatively easy and cheap vehicle to produce during the waning years of the war they come up with some batshit insane design that would either have major reliability and engine issues or would flat out not work
really? so why are there original blueprints for the Haunebu? Another thing is there is a reason we are not allowed to freely explore the north or south poles...
Also, one of the reasons the HO-229 was built in the way it was is because it was supposed to be a stealth fighter that would be hard to pick up on RADAR
@@bipolarspock6145 In the US a Go229 was rebuilt according original plans and due to the fact, that the plans were to make it out of wood (as there was not enough metal avialable anymore), it would have had a reduction of radar signatur of about 35% - but like described, as a side effect of not having enough metal. Further more the test of radar signatur and speed gave a picture of a Go229 flying on low altitude over the channel to Great Britan would have been detected about 5min before reaching the GB coast - much to late to start air defence measures.
I like to imagine allied pilots reacting to the aircraft if they were put into service. Like I'm watching a documentary about these aircraft and then they get someone who seen one firsthand and explained what he was thinking when he saw it.
The Horten Ho-IX glider was the basis for the Gothaer Wagenfabrik Go-229 which was built to the three times 1,000 project (speed of 1,000kph, fly 1,000 kilometers, and carry 1,000 kilograms of bombs). Missed the Me-262 HG-II and HG-III
Not only that! There were a lot more Messerschmitt Projects! Many Jetfighter Concepts that looked way ahead of their time! P.1110 for example, or P.1101 which really existed as Mock-Up in Bavaria by the end of WW2 and led to the Bell X-5 in the US!😉
i like "Captain America: The First Avenger" , with a few of the Nazi aircraft design concept like Valkyrie (base on the Horten flying wing) , the Focke-Wulf Triebflügel or Triebflügeljäger and HYDRA Parasit (base on Messerschmitt Me 334)
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first of all the DO335 was actually a fighter bomber and for seconds: why is the shown version the trainer?
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The Flying Wing design is just beautiful.
It is, ain't it? Even prop-driven Wings like the American YB-35 look like they crawled out of the Batcave!
With no fly-by-wire and would have killed more German Pilots than Allied Airmen
It's the retrofuturistic look that absolutely kicks the imagination into overdrive!
@@jamesricker3997 yeah its a documented fact that all fully flight worthy prototypes of Ho 229 crashed taking the lives of those brave test pilots
@@jamesricker3997 Not just fly-by-wire, but gyroscopic stabilization, which needed some decades to develop, to substitute inherent stability.
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My personal favorite weird Nazi plane was the Natter. A disposable vertical take off fighter that used solid fuel rockets as weapons. Once the mission was over the pilot ejected both himself and the rocket engine. It flew once, then exploded.
The Nazis were really that desperate that they wanted to reuse the rocket?
@@carltonleboss well the rocket engine yes. It was the same engine that was used in the Me-163 Komet rocket plane and was worth it. The Natter itself used solid fuel motors for take off as well as the rocket engine. The Natter was disposal and was made of wood. It was basically a manned SAM.
Actually the Natter didn't explode on its first flight, however, it was the first known aircraft to have gone supersonic before anybody had come up with the concept of a supersonic rocket powered reaserch aircraft.
My favourite ones is the silver moon.
@@johnosbourn4312
G'day,
That's a claim which is difficult to reconcile with the fact that the Canopy failed on the only attempt at a Manned Launch for a Test Flight, and the loose Hood knocked the Pilot unconscious shortly after the machine left the Launch Rail...; thus initiating it's fatal Crash as it's next evolutionary achievement.
It didn't fly long enough to go Supersonic.
As I recall reading.
Such is life,
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
;-p
Ciao !
the gotha rammer seems to be eco friendly since it’s reusable
Also, it looks like a cartoon plane from a Loonytoons cartoon
No lead poisoning from the bullets
LOL. Yup... eco friendly wars are best.
Mario bullet guy
WW I there was the Gotha Giant. About the size of a B-17D.
really unique designs but my favorite has to have been the bf-raid shadow legends
Im guessing the bf raid shadow legend could go mach 1
Be fair - The Ho-229 did fly….a couple of times in the test stage.
Do 335 to
Still flying.
🧸5:50😱
In fact the "Roswell UFO" was a captured Ho-229 that crashed during a test flight.
@@thegeop5906blud roswell was a weather balloon 💀
5:25 I built that in Kerbal Space Program once, didn't work too well, and definitely did run out of fuel in about 6 minutes
“If they made it it would have won ww2”
i made some of them too :)
"It's not UFO when it has been identified, but it will be IFO"
- anonymous
look up Keneth Arnold's sketch of the UFO he described as "flying like saucers skimming the water surface" (he was not talking about the shape) observed during his flight during the numerous sightings before the Roswell incident..
The Germans really did make some crazy designs during the war.
It was all the drugs they took. All the scientists were on meth during the war
I agree, but the go to word for a year or two is INSANE.
@@donofon1014 Insanely fantastic XD
and americans stole them
Insane and wholly useless designs which could not have flown properly, at a time when the Germans needed new aircraft immediately. Meanwhile, the British started designing the Canberra in 1944, although the end of the war delayed development and it didn't fly until '49. It's almost as if the German designers were high on amphetamines. Which some of them were.
Horton Ho 229 actually followed the 3 x 1000 idea
1000 km range
1000 Km/h speed
1000 Kg weapon load
Ho 16, never of the drawing board, was slated as an intercontinental strategic nuclear bomber
The Horten Brothers designed an "America Bomber" which may have functioned. And it is a fact that this Factory was hidden from much of the Nazi Top, who didn't know about it!
*Ho 18
The Jetfighter was the Horten 9, the projected Americabomber was the Horten 18!😉
And there never was a Horten 229, since RLM only gave the Designation 8-229 and that Number was passed to Gothaer Waggonfabrik, which was chosen to build that Aircraft as Gotha Go-229A!😉
Well, Horten IX was bomber, not figther, as Me 262, but it was repurposed and also it was first stealth plane ever build, luckily never entered service @@einautofan6685
These were really some unique, and very weird aircraft projects.
Now there is a vocabulary that flies above INSANE
Great work, love your videos especially about WW2. Keep up the great work and best of luck to you :)
9:19 lmaoo the actual first b2
True
The best thing about the Silbervogel is that the designer knew it was impossible with the available technology. But he figured that if his government was going to throw away its money on an insane war, he might just use some of that for a project that might be of some use after the war!
Eugen Sänger was a Visionary! Way ahead of his time! He allready thought about re-usable Space-/Aircrafts! There was a black Ramjet Version of a Space Shuttle Transporter (on top) as a Concept in the 90s! That far ahead!😎
@@einautofan6685 IIRC there was a German project for a two-stage reusable shuttle in the '60s(?) that was explicitly based on Sänger's ideas.
And it could carry nukes.
i also heard that the project was canned because there were less complicated wunderwaffen pjojects that could already bomb the usa anyway so there was no real reason to bother with basically a space weopon.
The Ho229 wasn't scrapped, it passed Göring's 3x1000* requirement but it was just way too late.
I have quite a few books on it, that thing could have had a significant impact on the air war
*It's actual topspeed was 965.61 km/h
Not the requirement but good enough
No it wouldn’t. There was no technology at the time to make the thousands of adjustements needed to fly a flying wing. The americans had built their own and it failed because of this.
@Dario Montieri actually the u.s. Flying Wing made in the late forties did very well it's just that at the time it wasn't very cost-effective compared to conventional wing and fuselage aircraft but they made literally two versions one that was piston engine driven and then the other that was jet-powered based on the same basic airframe. Both of them had excellent Performance Based on based on their overall design and payload capacity. And there would be no B-2 Spirit or B21 Raider if it wasn't for them.
@@eddieschwab864 Pls translate my Comment in English:
Ich kann mich an eine Dokumentation erinnern wo der Northrop Flying Wing als exzellentes Flugzeug dargestellt wurde, aber während der Testphase von der Konkurrenz (Boeing?) sabotiert wurde! Scheinbar war Lobbyismus, Sabotage und Bestechung schon damals ein großes Thema in der Flugzeugindustrie...🤔
@@eddieschwab864 I also believe that politics and timing played a role in prohibiting Northrop's success. His flying wings were intended for a fully Nazi-occupied Europe that thankfully never had to be. As much as I love the XB-35/YB-49, the situation would probably entail more deaths.
4:45
Junkers EF 009 design meeting.
"So how many engines does it have?"
*"Yes"*
''Alle'' 😂
In my opinion, The Lippisch P.13a (6:22) was the only one that, among the other lunatic models, made some sense. Design-wise was bold but not entirely weird. The Horten models, starting from 7:56, obviously are the only rational and amazingly well designed models. So ahead of their time!
look for the documentary
Hitler's stealth fighter
well worth a watch
and puts my standalone comment in perspective
God I fucking hate the "Nazi stealth aircraft" bullshit
The Lippisch plans and Lippisch himlself were reused by the US Airforce. He helped design the Delta Dart, Delta Dagger and Hustler. It really was a good design.
@@HrLBolleYeah no. Anything WWII German “stealth” is basically entirely junk.
@@robertoroberto9798 This is true when one directly compares the technical and scientific skills of yesteryear to those of today.
But when viewed "objectively" in terms of time, the Horton Flying Wing could be seen as a potential game changer in an effort to trick the then fledgling RADAR technology
I sincerely hope you do an individual episode on each and everyone of these aircraft. Your content is so good and I love it when you talk about the weird and strange projects keep up the good work.!!
Most of them already do 😊
Gajin needs to add these vehicles to War Thunder
The bomber version of the ho229 would be nice in 7.7/8.0
Not all, getting killed by ramming sucks. So only the ones that could work, like the jet bomber. The Triebflügel maybe, not sure if it could work in that configuration.
4:42 looks like something I’d build in Simply Planes when I was 7 lol
I'm glad he didn't try going over literally all of them. Bro would've been here for 24 hours 😂😭
2:30 The Do 335 did see combat, it was chased by if i recall correctly a hurricane, after it dropped bombs then flew away from hurricane
Super Lion, Triangle, Horten HO 229, Americabomber, and Sibervogel all look like they come straight out of STAR WARS 😲
Indeed, Star Wars was influenced by german Wehrmacht / Luftwaffe fantasies and nightmares (?🤔🤣) of George Lucas... You can see many references to the germans in that movies!😉
We like the HO229 with its big brother, and even that UFO and the ones you liked. They were epic. They are our favourite ones, if we had to choose from this lot.
One aeroplane that wouldn’t have been out of place on this video was the bomber from Raiders Of The Lost Ark. I know it was only a figment of Hollywoods imagination but it was still a great looking aircraft and would have been great to see it actually fly. Great video.🇦🇺
Or just watch Captain America movie with lots of "Skull" Planes! (projected real fighter/bomber concepts) 😉
I was watching Raiders today and was like wait a minute, they didn’t have a succesful wing!? That’s what led me here! It was a gorgeous fake aircraft tho.
The Horten 229 did "take off" in the sense that they did have a flying prototype late in 1945 that had several successful test flights (and one not so successful one that was a fault of the Jumo Engine it was equipped with). It just never made it to full scale production before the war ended.
It would have been glorious if by the beginning of the air battles the Luftwaffe was fully equipped with ME 262 and Horton 229 and 16
@@HrLBolle No it wouldnt we might be speaking German right now if that were the case.
@@kidddogbites Not talking battle of Britain
@@kidddogbites dies wäre für mich kein Problem
Have you forgotten the Horten 229 that lays in the smithesonien
I am very excited for the video about the Silbervogel! It's a fascinating concept that I have already done slightly research on.
Dynasoar. American similar idea.
The Amerikabomber flying-wing keeps reminding me of the Hydra flying wing from Captain America The First Avenger
Probaly inspired by it
@@Graf-Fischgen-von-Fischgesicht but that had both props and Jet engines if i reall corectly
Its so awesome how you tubers spontaneously break out a raid legends wtf ever ad in the middle of a interesting topic! Said no one ever.
Simon Whistler always rips it off on Business/Brain Blaze.
Cry about I guess
seeing this video in my subscription feed, makes me feel like I can go to bed and have something to look forward to for tomorrow.
Hope you enjoy!
Do-335 2 seater was a Night Fighter version...with some detailed for trainers. The 2nd crewman ran the radar on oard.
Both! Some were built / planned as pure Trainers, others as Nightfighters with Radar and heavy Armament!😉
4:27 you sure you meant that "unfortunately" in there?!
That's what I thought! Though in a bizarre way it would of been good. The cost of development, manufacture and pilot training would have been so high in comparison to just turning out existing designs it would have been more debilitating to the regime than advantageous.
It kinda feels like he supports the ideas hahaha
That’s not what he meant he meant unfortunately FOR the Germans not like he supports nazism
The Ju287 was made from the fact that airspeed/lift on the wings would be the highest by the plane's body this way (And not on the wingtips) and leaving the center of gravity free for the bomb-load. I had some pictures of it with small strips on the wing to prove the airflow from this theory. And a passenger plane was made after the war, with its wings pointed forward. Also a later American fighter had its wings like this.
Never forget the SU 47 when talking about Forward Swept designs.
Some years ago, I went on a mad buying spree. Among the 60-odd still-unbuilt plastic model kits in my closet are 3 Nazi fantasy aircraft. One is the already named Horten GO 229. The others are the 5-prop! Heinkel HE-111 Zwilling and the Arado Ar (E) 555. The particular contribution of these madmen in war and belief-shaping was their theatricality. These craft belong in a Fritz Lang movie. What's missing is a dirigible. (ps--See the '38 Korda 'Shape of Things to Come' for the ultimate flying craft ..)
Actually a double body Heinkel was made, I think to be able to pull the Gigant?
The Horten HO 229 boomerang shaped aircraft & the Focke Wulf Treibflugel an interceptor aircraft interesting. All of them interesting for sure.
Triebflügel only looks amazing for Hollywood movies like Captain America!😉
Truth is, the Triebflügel concept doesn't really makes sense at all! Nobody would install Jet-Engines on the end of a rotating wing!🤪
I'd guess deep space communication, in that it could account for Doppler shift in a transmission from something moving away at speeds unimaginable in atmosphere. Other than that, I'm curious if it could be used to keep comms with an object that's re-entering atmosphere as the plasma creates a communication blackout for a time.
Bro the Germans were playing kerbal space program long before it was made.
I'm interested in aeronautics for all my life, I'm well aquainted with my home country's darker chapters of history and with the technology of this time - and yet I didn't know about some of the concepts shown here which really are obscure. Very interesting, thanks a lot!
"Unfortunately, construction delays couldn't get enough into service to make a difference to the ultimate outcome." 🤨
Yeah what that should have said "fortunately" what's this guy hiding lmao
The fact that the Ju 287 was even scraped together is scary
The DO 335 actually took of in WW2
probably the greatest ad transition
8:00
there where several flying prototypes of the Horten Ho 229
so this one in fact took of but not on a large enough scale and to late to alter the war of Air superiority
Also some years ago skunkworks did replicate her to a high degree an tested her alleged stealth capabilities, finding them to be more them sufficient if faced of against the British Chain home installation. So much so that they (the researchers), based on these results came to the conclusion that no defence squad sitting on the ground, at reduced alert, would have been airborne fast enough for intercept while in route if a flight of HO 229 were approaching on sea level.
No? The team said that the Horten only had about 80% RCS of the BF-109, mainly due to wooden construction. This gives enough time for any RADAR to detect it and then scramble interceptors to intercept the Horten.
@@robertoroberto9798 if my memory serves me right, it was given in context of approach on sea level.
Will edit original comment to give that bit of info, that had fallen in the sofa crack of my memory
Provably false.
@@robertoroberto9798wrong.
Radar would have detected it too late, giving allies only minutes to react. They could not have intercepted in time.
Northgrop grumman made this statement.
That ain't a sack AS-6 that's a flying pancake 0:56
Junkers Ju 287. Why you should not design an aircraft when you have a hangover.
Some have said that the Horten HO 229 was a stealth aircraft. The problem with this idea is that this claim did not come about until the 80s when people were looking at stealth technology. One of the Horton brothers saw a chance to get in on it all and made the claim. No such claim existed when the brothers were question just after WW2. The other problem was that one of the components of the glue being used on the aircraft actually increased the radar signature making it easier to be seen by radar.
A late test built of a model Horten has proven that it was a fact, that by the Radar technology of the time, it would have been hard to see!!
The Focke-Wolfe Super Lorin was so named after the German name for a ram jet "Lorin". It was named after the designer Rene Lorin.
The U.S. flight-tested an aircraft called the "flying pancake" which had a circular wing and flew quite well despite its circular wing. Similarly, the Lippisch P.13 coal-fired ramjet "Flying Triangle" wasn't as eccentric as it looks in the animation.
Sack AS-6, Observational abilites.
The pilot: can't see a thing because of the wing.
Theoretically would've mounted a recon camera below the fuselage
The gotha aircraft was the first ram jet 😂
I like how the most replayed place is where the raid ad ends 🤣
"... but unfortunately construction delays it couldn't get enough into service to make a difference..." @4:30
Well, luckily they didn't get enough of them into service to make a difference...
Thank you! One of several similar odd comments in this otherwise very good video
Well, unfortunately.... for them.
Sure I wouldn’t want a super weapon like that to have entered Nazi service, but I’d would’ve loved to have seen if it would’ve worked. It’s a fascinating idea and design and I love innovation like that. So unfortunately we don’t know if it would’ve worked as planned, but fortunately the war ended so we wouldn’t have to find out.
DO 335 two seater ( Anteater ) was also designated to be a night fighter. I enjoyed making 3 of these models, beautiful aircraft.
Hyperbole is NOT pronounced HYPER - BOWL, but as HY PER BO LEE , HYPERBOLEE
Some of these prototypes and design remind me of something that Wil E Coyote would come up with, lol. Great video!
The Horten concepts for flying wings - far to be insane - really took off very successful.
Go and interview the Northrop engineers that spent months in the early 1990s Córdoba, Argentina learning/consulting from Reimar Horten how to design the aerodynamics of a flying wing - the Northrop B-2.
Northrop knew how to design flying wings since the 1930s
No. The Horton did not influence the design of the B-2 Bomber. Northrop designed the YB-35, one of which crashed and then the YB-49 which was the same aircraft with jet-engines instead. Furthermore, Northrop went and made their own Horton to test the claims of the Horton having stealth capabilities; to which it had none.
Not really insane, both them and Northrop in the US were building full-size vehicles to explore the technology.
@@airyonaspraker1833 , @Kiba the Mechanic
You like it or not, it is well known (and documented!) that Northrop engineers spent several months in Córdoba in the late 1989s/early 1990s with Dr. Reimar Horten, then a beloved Emeritus Professor of Aerodynamics in the Univ. of Córdoba.
They were not there to enjoy Argentinean asados (barbecues); although I support they had many.
They were learning how to solve the problems of longitudinal instabilities that plagued early Flying Wing designs - and were one of the several technical reasons of the demise of the Northrop B-49, forty years before.
Consulting Dr. Horten does not demerit neither Jack Northrop achievements nor his company engineers prowess.
Now, I suppose that both of you may say emphatically that Bussemann was not influential to Boeing Swept Wing bomber and airline designs, or Lippisch to Convair Delta Wings aircraft ...
As far as I remember, weren't there 2-3 Ho-229s being built at the end of the war that got captured in Paperclip or something?
2 where build complete, but one crahed in testflights. a third was almoust complete and was under US paperclip visitors finished. 6 in build where scrapped
The 287 is literally the German Bomber Version of the SU-47 Berkut
The ratio of content to sponser segway on these videos became unbearable.
Agreed
This is unironically the funniest video I’ve seen in weeks. Keep it up man love your content.
Why you changed the thumbnail *THREE* times...!? Now the thumbnail I bookmarked is ruined!
Cause he can
Came here from the community post lol
Ho 229 actually did have multiple variants and they are interesting... If you wanna see a cool bomber me-264 is one to look up
The Luftwaffe was really innovative! Triebflügel, Ho229 or the Ho "Amerikabomber" are really outstanding. Later the Allied just copied technology.
Also the Sänger Project (Silbervogel) was leading.
Interessting to see the Ufo's..... perhaps a video regarding operation Highjump would bring more informtion.
Thanks for this really fascinating video.
Copied in what regard?
The flying wing idea wasn't copied at all. The United States was already experimenting with flying wing designs.
@@peterson7082 Haha - funny qustion!
@@eliotjurgensen1421 no - not as early as the brothers Horten! Just lok at the facts! Northrop copied it! No American was an real poineer - they just copied, what has been invented ;-)
@@martinoppermann9868 John Northrop had been working on flying wings since the Horten brothers were teenagers
5:34 the focke wulf super lorin reminds me of the F86 or MiG 15
If the aircraft's in this we're model kits. I would buy them
I second that sir
Revell does a 1/48 ho 229 and zuki muria does a 1/32 ho229 and do-335
I have seen model kits of the Focke Wulf Treibflugel VTOL aircraft, they are out there.
@@joelynch7541 Revell also did a Haunebu (Nazi UFO) model too I believe
*were. We're = we are
Me when building KSP planes(and feeling a need for funny goofy planes).
Ahem. The Horten 229 project was not "dropped". It was still in development when the war ended. It DID have a significant design flaw in that if one of the engines failed at low airspeed, the control surfaces had insufficient yaw authority to maintain control of the aircraft. Sadly this happened on a test flight, destroying the prototype and killing the pilot.
Actually, the failed engine was also the engine which supported hydraulics in flight, thats why the Prototype went out of control and killed Test Pilot Erwin Ziller...
I like how instead of coming up with a sensible, reliable, and relatively easy and cheap vehicle to produce during the waning years of the war they come up with some batshit insane design that would either have major reliability and engine issues or would flat out not work
Du törichter Narr. Die Deutsche Wissenschaft ist die beste auf der Welt. I will admit, they valued creativity; but so did the U.S.
@AYVYN yeah that's why "German science" scrapped it's nuclear program because the fuhrer thought it was linked to Jewish people
wdym by that 🤨 7:47
Exactly...
why does the Amerikabomber look like the jet powered version of the arsenal bird from ace combat 7????
It's common knowledge that the Nazi UFO was a solely imaginary craft portrayed in a clickbait thumbnail on Hitler's RUclips channel in 1944.
really? so why are there original blueprints for the Haunebu? Another thing is there is a reason we are not allowed to freely explore the north or south poles...
@@midnightclub7629the original “photo” of haunebu where photos of a lamp
I am still impressed about your research to these epochs of flight technology. Especially the goal fighter jet.
Also, one of the reasons the HO-229 was built in the way it was is because it was supposed to be a stealth fighter that would be hard to pick up on RADAR
As an avid HO fan myself, im afraid youce been greatly missinformed, it was never designed for that
That was by accident
The flying wing design helps but without the radar absorbent material…. It would light up every radar wherever it went.
@@bipolarspock6145 In the US a Go229 was rebuilt according original plans and due to the fact, that the plans were to make it out of wood (as there was not enough metal avialable anymore), it would have had a reduction of radar signatur of about 35% - but like described, as a side effect of not having enough metal.
Further more the test of radar signatur and speed gave a picture of a Go229 flying on low altitude over the channel to Great Britan would have been detected about 5min before reaching the GB coast - much to late to start air defence measures.
It wasn't designed to do that and it also wasn't stealthy at all
11:56 yeah yeah
And we say in Italy: if my grandpa had 4 balls he'd have been a pinball...
"unfortunately" not enough could be brought into service to make a difference....
Unfortunately!!
EF 009 looks like my Planes in Kerbal Space Program
And where's the sauce of previous thumbnails???
Fun Fact: The Nazi UFO was used by the moon Nazis in the movie Iron Sky.
Never heard of it before, but thanks for the info. ;-)
Guess they can make a game out of it.
With the space blimps 😂
That thumbnail straight up looks like a poster for GI Joe toy set lol
“Unfortunately”??
HO229 wasnt planed as a bomber, it was planed to be an interceptor, not like the B2 spirit bruh
what we can learn about the 3rd reich from this video is that they had a mindset of an elementary school kid
A homicidal school kid
I’m going to need a video on every single one of these!
Sometimes this channel feels like Werhaboo propaganda
I'd agree with that and a shitty pandering to Shadow whatever it's called.
I like to see an ace combat game based on failed experimental fighters such as these but made by the Belkans.
ah yes, my favorite experomental german plane, raid shadow legends.
The Horten Ho 229 had flight
The rammer looks like a crazy pac-man from the side.
I like to imagine allied pilots reacting to the aircraft if they were put into service. Like I'm watching a documentary about these aircraft and then they get someone who seen one firsthand and explained what he was thinking when he saw it.
The Horten Ho-IX glider was the basis for the Gothaer Wagenfabrik Go-229 which was built to the three times 1,000 project (speed of 1,000kph, fly 1,000 kilometers, and carry 1,000 kilograms of bombs). Missed the Me-262 HG-II and HG-III
Not only that! There were a lot more Messerschmitt Projects! Many Jetfighter Concepts that looked way ahead of their time! P.1110 for example, or P.1101 which really existed as Mock-Up in Bavaria by the end of WW2 and led to the Bell X-5 in the US!😉
Sorry to say it, but: the "Amerikabomber" was NOT the Horton, it was the Messerschmitt ME 264, who was official a plane of the "Amerikabomber-Project"
I had a scale model of the Dornier Do 335. Pretty interesting plane.
In the first Captain America movie Red Skull used the Triebflugel to escape one of his HYDRA factories.
5:36 bro they made the plane look like a star trek ship but small
i like "Captain America: The First Avenger" , with a few of the Nazi aircraft design concept like Valkyrie (base on the Horten flying wing) , the Focke-Wulf Triebflügel or Triebflügeljäger and HYDRA Parasit (base on Messerschmitt Me 334)
😉👍
So insane that most of the allies tried building some of these in the future 😮😮
that super lorin turned into Gulfstream / learjet lol;
You guys finally did a video with the Super Lorin in it. Nice!
The tailspiner was in the movie captan amarica
The triangle plane is the damn gorg space fighter from the movie home XD