2021 F450 PLATINUM ABSOLUTE TERRIBLE BUILD QUALITY & ATTENTION TO DETAIL. $103,000 MISTAKES!
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- I own 2 other SUPERDUTYS that are $30,000 less than this and much better built. My chev is over $40,000 less than this and built better. Ford should be ashamed!!!!!
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Yea it's a little weird with trucks, there is such a big price difference between the base Regular cab and a loaded Crew Cab 4x4 Platinum. They all go down the same assembly line so build quality is the same whether you pay 35K or 100K.
The problem is Ford's attitude towards the customer. They KNOW that a significant number of their customers will buy their trucks no matter how shitty, how impractical, how overpriced BECAUSE those same uber-tunnel vision customers would rather die than drive anything without the blue oval on the grille. I mean it. I'm not exaggerating. My brother knew a guy in college whose family drove NOTHING but Ford trucks for 40 years and they refuse to touch anything different even if the Ford truck winds up being the most unreliable in the world.
Regardless of price, or trim level, those defects are unacceptable. The change in your dealership’s behavior is also unacceptable.
I hope that these issues are resolved.
The problem is they're fanboys. They would rather punch their mothers than drive ANYTHING else. Met a few who are so blind that I've even seen one guy actually get the Ford badge tattooed on his arm. What a tool... LMAO.
Well it sounds like a lemon. I'd demand a new one for sure. If it has that many issues I'd be worried about the drivetrain. I have a center screen where is was completely black and couldn't do anything and the paint on my truck had spots where they missed. Also had seat cover cloth stitches coming undone. The dealer replaced the seat and paint though so was happy about that.
OMG...LOL, a lemon!! haha that's funny...and not even close.
Yeah, as "biz4" said (or implied), legally it isn't a "lemon" unless and until the same defect has been repaired a certain number of times without lasting success. (The number can vary from jurisdiction to jurisdiction -- typically it's three, four, or a "reasonable number" of repair attempts. )
So if you have a number -- even a large number -- of different defects, the vehicle still isn't considered a "lemon" unless you can't get those defects repaired after the statutory number of attempts.
If I had a dollar for everyone that bought a vehicle and then brought it back, claiming it was a "lemon" even after I sat down with them and showed them the definition, I'd have a lot more dollars in my bank. It isn't as simple as having a few or even many different items needing attention.
Plus, you need to get a lemon law lawyer involved, and even then, if your vehicle does qualify, it takes a long time to get anything done about it. I know this from my own experience with GM and an 02 Chevy Blazer ZR2.
We are in strange times when a Jeep (Gladiator) is considered one of the most reliable trucks.
Too bad FCA bungled the speakers on the new jeeps and they need to rip out your entire dash to fix the issue by shoving a towel in there
@@BlackHawkBallistic I'ma try to wait for the 4xe anyway or 392, not sure
@Michael H Consumer Reports
I have a 2021 F-250 6.7L King Ranch FX4. Overall, absolutely impressed. I have had only three issues, which have now been fixed: the rear window interior roof gasket (like yours), the lower windshield/dash gasket (like yours), and the driver's side roof gutter trim piece that attaches to the rear window. Other than that, zero rattle, absolutely no electrical issues, no tailgate problems, and fitment is superb on all panels. The leather in my King Ranch seems excellent so far, with no rippling or quality issues I can find. My truck was built November 2020.
I’ve now got 80k miles on my 2018 F450 Limited and have been overall very happy with the quality
It's not just Ford, it's all vehicles ever since the so called pandemic. I wouldn't purchase any vehicle post 2019. You are absolutely correct that spending this kind of money should get you a perfect vehicle.
It is only Ford and other American made vehicles Toyota is the best.
@@Okello_kev LOL, back when Toyota's were cheap little pick up trucks with the 22re and 3.4 V-6 they would run forever. Toyota still manufacturers a quality vehicle, but nothing as reliable as they used to. Also, Toyota doesn't offer any truck that can come close to what a real American 3/4 or 1 ton diesel truck can tow. You simply can't compare a Toyota, it's not remotely in the same class.
Happy Birthday Bauer!! I agree, your 450 was definitely put together on a Friday afternoon. The door misalignment and that stitching on the dash is just plain unacceptable for ANY trim level. Luckily my 21 350 Platinum has no assembly issues, accept for my windshield molding also curls up at each end like yours. But I do have 2 recalls pending for mine (windshield glass reattachment 21C06, spring seat interface weld 21S31) which I have been hesitant to take in right now due to parts and material shortages. I don't want my truck sidelined for weeks/months because the dealer accidently breaks my windshield while removing it, etc.
On my 2021 F-450 Platinum I had the same problem with the seat belt except mainly on the passenger side. It was really annoying for my friend's. I also had an oil leak that the second dealer fixed but it was terrible on such an expensive truck. I also had a DEF system fault that didn't get fixed. I loved the truck anyway. The front axle is unbelievable!! I sold it at 18,500 miles because I couldn't pass up having the dealer pay me a few thousand more than I paid and the DEF issue scared me. Even with the few problems I had I'll probably buy a 2022 or 2023. I picked up an extremely clean 2009 Chevy Silverado 3500 with on 46k miles that I'll drive till the market calms down and I see if 23 is a redesign. The rear cup holder thing is ridiculous too. I agree I don't care that it's a truck it should be put together correctly!!
Wow I have watched your channel I didn’t know you got rid of it. The power train is top notch but seems like they are letting everything else slip.
The substandard build quality is definitely covid related and Labor shortage and part shortage issues
What a bummer
Beautiful truck !
If covid is going to be used as an excuse for "build quality" then we should get a covid discount....
This is 100% not covid related. Ford builds garbage now, has been at least since 2017.
@@bigwooly8014 what happened in 2017?
@@waffletraktor9660 for me personally a brand new 2017 f150 blew a head gasket at 43k miles. 100% of scheduled maintenance was performed at the dealership it was purchased at. Vehicle was only used for driving around town. No hauling or long travel. Then the 2018 that replaced it had knock on startup issue at 50k miles. The 2020's door locks can be defeated in less than 30 seconds. In SanAntonio TX they have over 150 calls for break ins per day according to the police officer I talked to in Academy. Pre 2017 fords had lots of issues with the bells and whistles. Post 2016-17 fords have engineering and design problems that affect critical components and safety of the vehicle imo. That's not to mention the tsb on 2011 Ford edges regarding sudden failure of the power brake booster which leads to a sudden loss of brakes, or a sensor failure in a f350 2011-14 (wasn't my truck don't remember details) that prevented truck from starting after sitting overnight which stranded myself and a coworker for 6 hours just outside Columbus TX.
I've been driving fords since '97 both personal and work vehicles. The quality has steadily declined starting around 2010-12ish and imo jumped off a cliff around 2016 or 17.
I work at a truck only dealership. We see more issues like this on Fords than GMC / Ram. Not every truck of course, not saying that not a single Ram or GM has had issues, just saying we see it more on 2019+ fords than 2019+ Rams or GM’s. Interior specifically I think Fords fell a bit behind. Overall quality and materials of a higher trim level Ram / GM seems to be a little higher than Ford. Never thought I would say that either. I spend time in lots of trucks and in specifically interior quality I’d pick a GM or Ram right now.
Gm interior sucks an there having a bunch of problems with brakes an transmission
@@stacymanley161 the GMC interiors are much nicer than the Chevys from what I’ve seen. Again, I’m talking about newest body style trucks that are no more than a couple years old. And, I was very specific in saying specifically interior. If we’re talking power train and overall quality of the truck it’s completely different. Overall, in interior quality specifically, HD Fords seem to have more weird little issues than the newer GMC’s and Rams at the dealership I work at in the area I live. Maybe where you live it’s different, but the hundreds and hundreds of them we see per year are a decent sample size.
I’ve got a 16 platinum and I feel the quality of the whole truck was quite a bit better than these new ones. Guy I know has a 2018 and the weather stripping on his roof was peeling up at 15k miles.
I'm glad you did this video. I just bought a 2020 F350 CrewCab Platinum used with 7,400 miles on it at a premium price. The windshield wipers will not work on intermittent at all. Adaptive Cruise control is extremely dangerous. For no reason whatsoever the truck accelerates full throttle and nothing you do will turn it of except to shut the ignition off. And when you try to restart the truck it goes to full throttle. The only way to fix it is to drop the keypod into the slot under the front cup holder to reboot the computer. When I took it to Ford for these issues they said there was nothing they can do to correct the problem. Reason was, the latest software would not take. Whatever that means. Now I'm stuck with a very expensive Piece of Shit for a Truck. Thank you Ford. I have been a loyal customer since the 60's.
Wow that’s terrible. They are asking for a lawsuit . That’s makes my issues look very small.
With the value used trucks are bringing, you could probably trade it in and get almost what you paid for it.
Might be worth doing and getting another that you're happy with.
Probably not after posting this video! 😁
I’m not getting a new truck till 2023 when prices come back down trucks are way to expensive now. I can’t believe all the quality issues at that price
Prices will never come down my friend :( a truck will not be any cheaper than it is at this moment. Shop and make a smart decision
If you had said you were going to wait for them to get cheaper in 1985 you’d still be waiting.
@@on2wheels275 used trucks most definitely will go down in price.
When prices come down? Oh I didn’t know that, sucks to me living in real world. Please tell everyone how with out of control inflation-material labor manufacturing transportation prices going up to record levels and money supply expansion trucks will be less pricey.
@@matbob7249 @Mat Bob - who are you replying to? Everyone’s comment all support that fact that prices will NOT be coming down due to many issues in our society and economy including supply issues, cost of labor, the value of the dollar etc.
Dang, sorry to hear you're having these problems. Hopefully you can get it squared away. So far the 21 ram 3500 has been solid and hopefully it stays that way... At least until 2023 when I get the bug for a new one. 🙄
In my opinion, there's a work truck, and there's a family/daily truck. You can't mix them and want something nice (that's my opinion don't get pissy at me).
Everyone I've ever known with a construction or similar business have base model work trucks with no luxuries and nice vehicles they use for other purposes.
Obviously this doesn't excuse the problems with your F-450, but I wouldn't expect a medium duty truck to have a decent amount of kinks, its not a top seller like the F-150 or F-250. Doubtful they put as much R&D into the F-450 as they do the light duty trucks.
I drove my 2019 F450 home from the dealership and backed into my driveway. The next morning there was a puddle of diesel underneath. I had it towed to the dealership because I didn’t want 48 gallons of fuel in my driveway. The seal between the filler neck and tank was bad. My rear defrost didn’t work either. Is there no quality control at the manufacturer?
I think they just pump these things out as fast as possible
I had the same issue with the windshield seal on my 2021 F350 Tremor also. Dealer said they had to remove the windshield to fix it. I ended up just pulling it off. Drove me nuts. Don't think it served much of a purpose anyway.
The premium price you and I paid to get extra comfortable features on our work trucks, is going into union works or unions, that doesn't give sh!t about build quality.
Unfortunately bro every manufacturer does have many of these poorly built trucks and i went through it as well with my last ford and quickly traded it in on my Ram and its been my best truck by far ..can you sell it and by another 450 ..might be a good idea..... Keep trucking bro
I bought my first ford F150 Fx4 in 2006 the transfer case switch went out first, then the clutch fan went out, then the windshield leaked in the passenger side floor board, and worse the truck would go into Low four wheel drive while driving when it rained. I asked a friend did I hit something a kid on a bike it freaked me out. When I sold it back to Ford with about 65,000 miles it didn't start correctly. They paid it off plus 1500$. I bought a friend's 2001 f250 XL extended cab 2 WD at 145,000 miles, I got 283,000 until transmission went out. I had already had just the differential built, and a new intake put on. I paid 5,300$ and put about 5,000$ in it. The 2006 cost 35,000, I also pulled a goose neck with the 2001 on the weekends. I have a 2015 XL Fx4 crew 8ft bed with 95,000 pd 25,000 we will see how this Ford goes. I did Have to tune the engine, coils plugs, etc and put a airbag kit to level, but nothing serious yet. Door jams seem off a bit like your F450, I did notice it has been wrecked, but not a insurance job seems to be no record. Everything thing works almost the same emenities as yours accept interior. Rear locker, down hill assist, heated mirrors, and back up camera lol.
Just learned a valuable lesson - there is no greater quality or value added in higher priced vehicles over lower priced vehicles.
No. You get more do dads with the higher cost. The trucks are the same, built on the same assembly line.
For that price tag you should have the 12 inch display
What people fail to realize is that its still a truck that share many of the same parts that go into base work trucks at 1/4 or less price. I learned this with my 2018 Trackhawk. Near 100k suv but at the end of the day it was still just a Jeep Grand Cherokee with a very expensive motor, and when I brought it in to service the techs and service manager was the same dude that services Dodge Neons. Wife's Audi and ex-BMW vehicle is so much better quality, and service .... wow. No comparison. Still love my F-450 though as it tows and does what it needs to do. Can't do that in a Audi, BMW or any other import.
Those issue would kill me, couldn’t stand it. Hope Ford sees this and chooses to make it right. Unfortunately these trucks are produced right next to the XLs with the same manufacturing equipment, same people assembling them. But you shouldn’t have to deal with those things. Happy birthday big B!
I feel this is the result of Ford arrogance. They know that there are a looooot of customers out there who cannot imagine life without that ugly blue oval on the grille. These customers cannot be talked to. They'll just ignore anything that speaks blasphemy of the brand they blindly worship and would gladly overspend by thousands and thousands just to keep that blue oval on the grille. With this Charles Manson-like loyalty, why would Ford worry about quality? They'll cry and bitch and post videos like this but in the end, they'll still FLOCK to the dealerships and buy another effed up Ford truck even if it winds up costing thousands in repairs. And they'll do it again. Wash, rinse, repeat.
new trucks are great and everything but nothing beats the reliability of a pre 2000 truck
The amount of obs fords and gmt 400’s still on the road is proof of this
Love my 05 chevy 2500hd 6.0l got 300xxx miles and still runs like a champ. Original motor and transmission.
I have a 20 f250 that had the issue with doors not lining up. Dealership was able to adjust the bolts holding the door on to fix it. Wouldn’t say it’s dead on but you really have to be trying to notice
Badass truck by the way! I just ordered a 22 Lariat 450
I have a 2020 Platinum and absolutely love the new power train! Low quality interior is enough to piss you off when you take time to consider other vehicles in the same price range. Fuel mileage is great especially for the power output! Great video!
Hi! I have a 2020 6.7 and as of lately am experiencing some erratic and hard shifts on the transmission. Has anyone else had this issue?
@@christraver2423 nothing for me, seems to shift smoothly
These things are all about impossible to find these days. I was lucky enough to find my 22 4 hours away and just brought her home this past weekend. I had a 19 F350 SRW with 6.7L CC and loved that truck as well but towing a 44ft 5th wheel was asking a lot of that SRW truck and I only had about 100lbs of payload left over. I was looking for a F350 DRW but no one had any and building one might take 8 months to over a year (what my dealer told me) but glad I went all in on a F450. I looked over it with a fine tooth comb before we left and happy to say all the body lines lined up, everything worked as it should etc. One weird thing, it came with a 32,500lb rated 5th wheel hitch but they didnt know who made it, all it says is Ford on it so if anyone knows, I'd appreciate it (I think its a Reese M5 series). Only draw back is the fuel mileage but I bought it for a purpose.
My 2020 F-350 Platinum had the same issues. Rattles in the door, A-pillar, etc. Two Ford dealers were of no help. I love the powertrain, but that where it ends with Ford. The Ram IMO is better built.
Many of the same issues on my ‘19 platinum. Death wobble, electric issues (radar cruise gremlins), panoramic roof rattles constant, other interior trim issues as well. Has way more creaks and rattles at 1/7 of the miles of my 2014 Ram.
I gotta admit:
2019 Ford F250 Platinum Ultimate Package w/16500 miles
1. Annoying window noise like a seal opening when you go over bumps
2. Super annoying rear seat noise (creaking/rattle) over bumps or transition from driveway/curb to road and regular driving during turns
3. Annoying creaky noise from panoramic moonroof
4. Have to buckle seatbelts or they will rattle badly on the a and b pillars
5. Head rests on front seats vibrate badly over bumps
6. Bang and Olufsen stereo system will power down output EVEN THOUGH I have the speed lowering turned off. I absolutely HATE that shit! Rear door speaker passenger side is blown
Took my truck in for what I thought would be a SIMPLE and QUICK rear door speaker replacement and the very rude service advisor told me they have to "hook it up for a diagnostic to see what's wrong". I ask how long of a process this is and she said "well did you have transportation back to your house?, this is going to take all day". WTF. I'm no rocket surgeon, but I know what a goddamn blown speaker sounds like
The roads here in Colorado are ATROCIOUS so a percentage of the noise can be attributed to that but, a very small percentage.
It seems like FORD just hurried up and slapped these trucks together before they shipped them out. I am not going to complain to the dealer and waste my time driving over there because I know they won't do anything about it. It's a shame but that's reality. Other then these minor first world issues...I have no complaints but my truck was an $80,000 MSRP(USA) truck so I was expecting like you were, a much higher quality on par with the European car makers.
I denied death wobble defending Ford's honor RELENTLESSLY and come to find out...it definitely exists.
To be honest, if RAM went to a V8 diesel I probably would go with RAM from now on. I haven't heard of any of their complaints though and I don't really scour their forums looking for them either.
Cmon FORD...be better! Jesus Christ!!!!
Ya I drove a 2019 with a panoramic roof the other day and that thing rattled and squeaked so bad, I was surprised. Ever since then I’ve been seeing more complaining of it. I will never get a pano roof from Ford until they get them fixed.
Hi Chris, my 2019 had radar gremlins too. Dealer did find a tech that was able to program it properly and put 10k on it this summer with no more issues. Squeaky moon roof and other rattles drive me crazy though, Pretty sure roads in Edmonton AB are the worst in north America 😂. My driver door looks like this one too.
I agree with you 100% and I would not even have accepted that vehicle. I am guessing that they have built a partial truck and come back and installed a lot of parts later. Everything is a mess in the factories now with missing parts and missing people so then you have someone else filling in on the assembly line etc. I was afraid this was going to happen and I'm glad you showed this video. I'm sure this is going to be a nightmare for all of the dealers also. I would certainly make Ford fix everything under warranty, even the bad stitching on the dash which would drive me nuts also. I have on super duties for 16 years now but I think I'm going to wait and hopefully things get back to somewhat normal before I buy a new one. To me the truck you bought is like one that has been wrecked and repaired because they are never the same as new. I hope you can get everything worked out thanks again for sharing this information.
See Gary, your attitude is why Ford will NOT make an effort to improve any time soon. They know you'll be back to spend more hard earned money. When they already have you on the hook, why would they want to change or make extra effort to improve quality???
My 2019 f250 has that problem with the seat belt tensioner. Literally every pebble in the road makes it tighten up
The dealership I purchased my 2020 F450 from damaged my truck… They “bricked” the PCM, they gouged the steering wheel during prep while I was waiting to take delivery. They had to replaced the steering wheel and they’ve broken two clock springs. Then they put a severely out of balance drive shaft in when they were trying to diagnose a small vibration when loaded during acceleration. They made the vibration worse.
Get some centramatic balancing rings and it’ll fix your problem with uneven tire wear
My 2022 F450 has been flawless so far. None of these issues or any other ones and I'm fairly OCD
All Ford 3 Fords I have had since 2016 have had the seat beat "issue" you are talking about. My 2020 F250 only issue I have had is a loose cable in the driver's door came loose. Clicking noise in the steering wheel? While sliding? I'm not sure what in a steering column clicks while sliding? ABS module while braking/sliding is the only thing I could think of clicking, but can't see why it would be doing it as you are driving. I love my 3.31 axle with my 6.7. Cruising on the highway is 9.0L/100km(26mpg), hauling the RV out to PEI and back to Ontario(5k round trip) it averaged 17.5L/100km(13
5mpg) I'm routinely getting 8-900km city from the 136l(34gal) tank. My 2020 had the 189l(48gal) tank and it was great 12-1300km city and 16-1800km(empty) range(it would average under 10L/100km) the 2020 and 10spd are better. Only thing holding me back on the F450 is the 4.30 axle and the fuel. I dont have a need for the 4.30, a 3.55 in an F350 would work fine but the front axle and turning radius are less enjoyable.
This may say sound heavy handed, but it seems the truck was rigged or had some damage before it was handed to you. Very odd damage. The front end might be faulty as well causing cupped tires.
@1:20 Trim pieces lining up is pretty standard fair. You simply have higher expectations on the materials used and the look and feel if you pay a certain amount of money.
Tell the little man happy birthday! Honestly I switched to a Ram just because of quality issues.
The front door is supposed to stick out a bit. It prevents rock chips on the rear door front lip. Seems like it was built on a Monday or a Friday though
Thanks for the video. I have been looking at f450s and I think I will stick with my 2018 f350 SRW until shortages end
Thank you for the reviews you do!! Happy Birthday to little Bauer!!! 🎉🎉
Happy I saw this. I'm looking at a F450 Limited right now.
Nice vid. Same silly issues with European fords. I had a mk 4 vw golf that was 20 yrs old and the build quality was fantastic. Everything was solid and electrics worked fine. I recently bought a 2011 ford focus that is ten years newer and its just not the same. Rubber seals are literally falling off. Cig lighter never worked. Rattling from the drivers side b pillar which is right in my ear XD. Drivers wing mirror shakes constantly. some of the buttons look and feel like that they were taken out of an 80s ford and thrown in with zero thought... stupid stuff like that :/
Wish I could add a photo of the basic truck. Twenty years ago I built and maintained cell towers. All our trucks were Ford F350 7.4 power strokes.
I was lucky to get one of the last 2020 King Ranch. Mine is perfect...
On my 16’ F250 the front door also sticks out a bit like with yours. Always makes me think I didn’t close it all the way
Crazy how "in the old days" you'd buy even a base and it'd be well-built to an extent. Idc about cost-cutting and cheap stuff on the lower-end as its just business, but this is just a joke. You already have to spend a good buck to get a decently-optioned truck, so the least they can do is make sure its well put together. The trans can give out down the line, but initial quality shouldn't be a problem in todays world. Nonetheless, love the channel and trucks!
Change your shocks to fix the tire wear and ride quality. The factory ones are terrible, you will laugh once you get them off. We have a fleet of 15 and immediately switch them to the bilstein 5100.
Manufacturing quality went down after Corona, a lot of the older guys retired and the new guys don’t have the same attention to detail, a 2019 model is more likely to have less defects.
Was gonna get a new 2022 super duty guess I’ll keep my flawless so far pre Rona 2020 dually.
I have a buddy offering to sell me his, as he ordered a new one,
I’m not sold on the Ford quality overall,
I’ve had a 2004 Chevy Silverado 2500 Hd, loved it, got a 2007 GMC 2500 HD duramax & bought it almost new in 2009, still running great & I’ve done almost nothing engine wise to it,
Bought my daughter one this past year with 120k miles, and her truck was a work truck, nothing done to it, runs wonderful.
The quality of Ford is questionable,
I have a work vehicle, that’s a ford explorer, and mechanically it’s been ok,
But the fitment & door alignment, dash alignment, panels on outside, don’t line up, an crooked.
As a new vehicle it was like this.
may need a software update for your bugs with the mirrors and tailgate everything is module controlled now, but yeah I always dreamed about being a new vehicle owner when I was a broke mechanic at the dealership then as I got smarter and started making some real money and got a new truck I realized they aren't perfect and the dealer couldn't care less, now we have had everything from a 85k USD Range Rover to new Rams Denali Yukon and more and every experience is the same next to no dealership accountability and cheap build quality poor fitment, rattles and damage from the lot. So My advice to anyone buying new make sure its a nice bright day and the vehicle is clean and inspect for all damage before you buy it cause more than likely that will be the only time they will do anything about it. My new truck just landed at the dealer so see how this one goes.... thanks for the list of things to look for in the Fords
Love the videos
I hope somebody from Ford reaches out to you
We have purchased 2 Ford super duty’s in confidence (which were our first Ford trucks ever) without hesitation after seeing how they have held up in your conditions
We are also in the process of ordering a FAE BLM/EX 75 basing our decision on how FAE has performed for you as well
Thank you for the extra effort on your busy days to put these videos out
If you ever get a chance to talk shop it would be awesome to talk with you
Thank you again
Leland
That’s why I only buy mid-2000’s Super Dutys. I get the 5.4 3v, and the FIRST thing I do, is install a melling 340hv oil pump, then all the fluids are changed. Just got an ‘06 with 95k that looks like a dealer demo, not a spot of rust or aluminum oxidation. Just as strong and useful as a POS made in the last couple years, and I paid $6k for it. It’s a truck, I don’t need all that GPS Bluetooth crap, it’s in my phone. I want an aux plug-in, that’s it. 6-figures for a pickup truck is incredibly dumb. These trucks break left and right when used, well, like a truck should be used. You can get a 99-07 450 or 550 and get the same stuff done, it just doesn’t make any sense to me.
Sorry to hear about your troubles, the interior tailgate release doesn’t work when the doors are locked. When you start driving down the road, the doors automatically lock, if you stop and push the interior button, it won’t release the tailgate. You have to unlock the doors first.
I think 2021-2022 model year trucks from all the manufacturers are gonna be hit or miss due to COVID and the supply chain issue unfortunately.
❤❤ There was a you tuber back a few years ago that bought a brand new Chevrolet dully. He made a point to point out all the issues he was having with his very expensive truck on his videos. He is no longer with us. Him and his girl friend were going for a ride on a bright yellow scooter. Well at an intersection a Chevy van with a drunk driver did not even slow down and hit them. She was hospitalized for several months, he was pronounced dead at the seen. Just saying.
Ok….
Time to trade them in for a 22 F450!!! I went to my local Ford dealer here in Texas to try and trade my 21 F450KR but they only had a 22 F350KR dully and a 22 F350 LWB SRW platinum but no F450 😔
I’m really looking for a F450 Limited..
You are definitely right the motor and trans are way better then my 19 f350KR you made me trade in when you got your F450 😂
Hahahaha sorry
@@workplaytv I got mine exactly about a month after you got yours… 😂
Man, what a bummer! I forgot what you had connected to your OBD port but that may have something to do with your electrical issues. I was talking to my salesperson one time that was telling me that they had a truck in for service and they had something plugged in there and couldn't figure out why the truck was acting crazy until they unplugged what the had plugged in there. I know a few things have changed electrically since 2020 so it may be why you are having problems... hopefully?? As far as the "seal" on the bottom of the windshield, supposedly it is just a piece of foam that they put in place during manufacturing. You can probably pull it out and if you really want it there still, just flip it over where the side curling up is facing down. Happy birthday to Bauer!! How the heck has it already been 2 years?! That's crazy!!!
First response that makes sense, I had electrical issues as well with mine, I also had a diagnostic reader connected to my OBD port to continuously monitor different areas of my truck. I one day decided to remove it to see what happens cause before I had it plugged in I had no issues, guess what, back to no electrical issues anymore
Hey, you're ahead of the game...it's a Ford and it started, so you actually got a good one. 😁
I’ve had new GM trucks that never made it home from dealership.I’ll buy Fords anytime
@@rolflee6708 LOL, yeah right. Think you got your brands mixed up bud.
@@NYVET48TFW not really
@@rolflee6708 is pretty funny to, homeboy over here probably is not aware of the fact that his GMC has a Ford transmission in it
I would hate to be able to see the dislikes on this
you’re absolutely right to demand quality from that truck. You bought a luxury vehicle that happens to be a truck, it should be built better or else what’s the point with having anything beyond an XLT. I have a ‘21 F-250 King Ranch which I could not find any issues with the build other than one minor thing on the steering wheel - the leather on the backside of the steering wheel is loose and not wrapped completely. I haven’t pushed for it to get fixed yet because it’s my only vehicle and I can’t afford to have it out of commission. I know you already got your truck detailed and spent thousands on coatings, but if I were you I’d order the same truck in a 2022 model, get the bigger screen and be done with your unfortunate mishaps on that build. Just my opinion. Love your content by the way, keep it up man. Cheers from North Carolina.
Hey man I appreciate that comment! Have a great day
Sorry to hear about all the issues. I'm a Ram guy. I've got two of them and neither has had a single warranty issue. I'm not super sensitive about panel gaps, etc though. It does seem like your F-450 might have more issues than most. Because even though I love ribbing my Ford buddies none of them have had that many issues. As long as your CP4 doesn't cost you $20K just run with it because it looks like besides the quality control issues it a solid work horse for you.
Your absolutely right
I was a die hard ford man for years but got tired of the shitty quality switch to ram won't never buy another ford again.
No, no... it doesn't matter what price range a new vehicle is - you shouldn't have ANY of those issues in ANY new vehicle.
Leather is never the same, even between two seats. This is whyany manufacturers arriving towards always using man made materials that resemble leather. This is how Toyota keeps theor quality control up.
I just got a 2021 ram 3500 big horn 3 months ago. Fingers crossed it doesn't have any issues. I am a toyota guy but needed heavy duty. Didn't know which to go with as they all have their issues. But kinda glad I didn't go with f350 or f450 after watching. Having said that, long term my ram may not hold up.
I hate to add another issue to your truck but check all the door handle backers on the outside, seems to me the driver door only on all superduty 17 and up are rubbing on the paint on one side. Drives me nuts thinking it's going to rub through eventually. But door alignments are terrible, seat belt, thing under windshield, box is to one side a little, exterior mirror rattling and I had my first death wobble after four years and it tore out the drag link too. Almost killed us with the fifthwheel hooked up. Why that's not a recall for safety is beyond me. But after it happens and nearly kills you they'll put one in, but they won't replace anything their faulty part tore up, that's on the owner.
Sorry to hear about the problems with your truck man, I think you might have just gotten a bad one so to speak. My neighbor has a 21 and he doesn’t have a problem with it.
Dang. As someone on the cusp of buying a F450 and trading their tired 6.0 F350 in, I clearly heard two messages. Love all the mechanicals but for 100k you would think (even for a truck that has more features than my caddie) one would expect the same build quality. I'm still WANT the F450 but I need to look meticulously before I take ownership. Thanks for the great and timely video.
Great video to show what you thought of this truck. You probably know I have a GMC 1500 and want to get a 3500 next time. Any thoughts on those?
Im here watching other options, got a 2021 2500 laramie level trim fully loaded, spend $85K, engine solid but electrical issues non stop, they are buying back in couple weeks and now I don't know what to buy. This is my second lemon after returning a 2017 camaro ss 1le in the past. so rams are bad, fords and chevy too. What to do? I don't know. Japanese trucks don't tow a lot, which sucks.
You need to be recording interactions at your dealership, how they treat you, what you are there for, what they did and didn't do and be sending these communications to Ford. Get a prospectus from an investment firm (it won't cost you anything), which will give you the names of the board members so you can get their addresses and emails and be sending them the same thing. You'll be amazed at the change in attitude at the dealership. Oh, if you fix anything yourself, they'll void your warranty.
Build quality on the big 3 all right now is horrible. They all got rid of a lot of there experienced workers, anything to save a buck. I was looking at ordering a new Tremor but with all the problems coming out am sticking with my 18 king ranch. Call Ford after you complain the dealer will be sweet as pie. Keep up the great work
Give it back bud, the used USA market is buying these things up. I ust gave my 2020 f350 diesel back and they gave me 5K
Trucks got to be unlocked for the trailer gate mine is real picky in the cab about in locking it
Wow, how did this even pass their quality controls!
Every time I think I could buy a Ford, I see someone who has one and I realize I would never take the chance. They're garbage.
Well you need to think about the year. That truck was probably rushed through production because dealers were running dry last year. I’m almost certain quality control to the back seat on any vehicle produced last year.
Same issue with my front passenger door sticking out on my 2020 Raptor. Don't really notice it unless it's night time and a light is shinning down on the truck. You can see the shadow from it on the rear passenger door
I haven't looked into current trucks, mostly due to lack of justifying the costs of purchasing, maintaining, and operating them. I'm "lucky" in that I don't need one for work or as a daily driver. Your fuel mileage, is that common? I assume you set the cruise at the 65-72 mpg and don't touch the buttons and pedals unless needed(?). Its NICE to hear of those numbers, bringing back one of the main benefits of a diesel.
I imagine you've mentioned it in previous vids but for giggles, and because I'm either lazy or my time is too valuable to look-see, what range of mpg have you seen while towing? Yes, I know that varies greatly but are you seeing say, 7 mpg, or 12 mpg?
The trans, which I'm sure that the trans has a lot to do with the mpg - how durable have they been, including electronics/sensors, and how are they in drivability such as smooth crisp shifts, tc lockup, hunting for the right gear, "let it do it's thing and all is good" or "aggravating even when I don't think about it"?
Thank you for your time, if you've covered that previously feel free to say so and I'll gladly spend my time on those vids instead of you wasting yours to repeat yourself. (I subscribed and am in the habit of hitting "like" before I watch.)
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Hey buddy I have covered all that in other videos so feel free to check it out. Towing heavy I see 7-10, no issues at all with the trans this is my second 10 speed. The mpg is good for a large dually with 4.30 gears. On my 2020 350 srw with 37s I was getting 20-22 with no problem what so ever.
Friday Truck is exist. I have 2020 F250 Limited and its Friday truck as well.
Im not expecting any fit and finish from Ford, but Im having issue with Transmission kicking on me every time it shift and shakes a lot before shifting.
Ford try best they can do not to replace the Transmission. Technician told me there is no meaning fixing this burnt Transmission but Ford not allow him to replace them.
Thats where Ford is right now. But I still love Powerstroke and I will allways buy Powerstroke
What I have found with Ford is, they could care less if you are having issues or not. I have talked with the dealer as well as the ford customer care center and they have said that my problems are with the dealer and there is nothing they can do. They are worthless. I'm sorry for the issues you are having. Very frustrating. Not sure if you have a lemon law in Canada......
Your doors need to be fully unlocked for the tailgate to drop. Mine won’t even let me drop it from the exterior button on the gate if the rear doors are locked
Can use the key fob though
Given all the issues with supply chains and people not working because of COVID/COVID benefits I'm not surprised that trucks are being built with lower quality.
That is a lot of issues for such a high end truck. Personally Ive found when Ford switched to the aluminum body f150s there were a lot of little issues with panel gaps rattles and minor things, I’ve had 3 of the aluminum trucks and not one was perfect when they rolled out of the factory. My best truck was my 2012 f150 that thing was perfect not a single issue for 200k
I'm going to keep my '14 then. 150k yesterday and have only had to replace the starter. Do love the 5.0.
My 15 Lariat F150 is solid off the line. I haven’t had an issue since either. I need to grease the moonroof and the passenger side seat cooler doesn’t work but otherwise I’m thrilled. I’ll keep her forever
Is it time for a RAM 👀…
I got the 2020 f350 tremor Lariat black on black...love it....but there are a few small things that bug me for the money.
if the piece on your tail gate is plastic, you can heat it up, plastic has a memory and will want to go back into position. use a light amount of heat and work up in temperature until it moves. place a flat edge under the lip and lift up and with a little heat should come out.
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You made me go look at the build date on my F-450 11/12/20 a Thursday. I have not had a single issue yet except that tailgate step continuing to pop open. Fit, finish, panels, gaps all good. I’ve been super pleased with it.
Your tailgate drop doesn’t work in the cab if the doors are locked, only the fob. That could have been your issue
I agree that for 103k The truck should be spotless with no issues whatsoever, but I also think that for what you are doing, you don't need that $103k truck. If you needed something to just work in, you could get an XLT crew cab that would be a lot cheaper, or if you needed something to haul a lot, get an F-450 RWD with the single cab, that has the most towing capability and from what it sounds like you have multiple trucks.
Thank you, I was considering one of these, But now I'm considering a 2022 Ram 3500 Dually. Cheers from Alberta.
Looked at the new Ford f350 dually was shocked at the poor quality interior they seem to be way behind the Ram especially in the technology integration of the truck. Purchased a Ram 3500 dually Longhorn not an issue so far.
They are all just mass produced on the same assembly line. The doors on mine didn't line up either. The dealership told me to turn it in for warranty service to have them realigned. My seatbelt does the same thing. Ridiculousness.
You should not expect good fit and finish quality when buying a Ford. I know it's ridiculous considering the price of the truck but they have always had these issues. Coming from a Ford guy.
I'm with you Bud. For the price it all should be darn near perfect. obtw. My 2008 F-350 had exact the same issue with the seat belt
Sell the truck if your not happy with it! If your not happy when it’s new , you won’t be happy with it in three years