@Abhikrishna PS false. Presence is the creator, Elaine had an aspect of it’s power and also the writer lost to a god damn animal human called animalman.
I love these well thought out videos that clearly show that you have done your research. I also love how well you tell the story of any character. Also this comment is for the RUclips algorithm so more people will see these videos.
Thank you that cleared things for me .I just got into comic and people bring comic statements that contradict each other . Like how two brother created dc then another told me a witch did , another said their is a third bro who did it, suddenly they have a mother out of nowhere or how space and time $&@$ so thay created dc and finally a void women did it .
it is known very well that the specter is way below michael and lucifer in terms of power. michael once beat specter and tossed him like a ragdoll . it was a minute affair
I'm so sick of the One Above All or the Presence. They don't do a single thing of note. They show up to remind people they exist. Enough already. Geez.
He wasn't talking about the writers, when he said he was shaped by other forces, this has already been debunked many times... Also like the Endless, it matters who is looking at him, some see him the way the angels do, or the way superhero's do, as a writer.
I've got a question, how about The Writer aka Grant Morrison? In my opinion, he's the God of all DC since he's the executive and gave himself an avatar to fit in the DC storyline.
@@DagothUrAmaranth He can only die if he includes himself in a story. Think about it, a comic character can't even interact with you unless YOU make fanfics about it, The Writer is just like you, every comic is fiction to him.
The most powerful character in DC is the page which is the page that the stories are written on grant Morrison said that the page can erase stories from existence that whatever he or another author writes on the page if the page wished to it would erase what's written in it even the presence imagine writing a story but then before your eyes it disappears from the pages it's written on making that story no longer exist all of the DC fiction could be erased if the page wished so
But gods like the Presence and Lucifer are well known outside of dc comics and with there standard there is one true god and in each universe it is just a copy then you could say the real Presence and darkside is outside dc comics then and the paper
@@daraghokane4236 grant Morrison said the page is the God of DC and can even erase what the writers write on it everything in DC exists on the page and is bound by it he says the page is the most powerful but if you disagree I'm fine with that
@@daraghokane4236 it's just what grant Morrison said in his IGN interview and as I said before if you disagree with his statements that's fine that's your interpretation of the lore I'm not in the mood today for a debate so if you believe that your correct im not going to fight you
In Final Crisis Revelations (2008) and in Superman Beyond 1 and 2, it was shown that The Presence was murdered and consumed by a Monitor named Rox Ogama. He even took the famous Orb that the Presence had in the Vertigo Comics Lucifer 2000 series, just to prove he consumed The Presence.
"Webcamparrot" has a great vid explaining why he is not Dc's too dog, or close to it. Alot of people have attempted to debunk his points but I kinda agree with him. He provided too much evidence to support his claim.
@@davidnewhart2533 But he is wrong about the Presence. Sure he used the Lucifer-presence talk for a lot of his sources to prove the presence is not the supreme being. The issue with this is that the presence cannot really die. He even argued this to some degree. The presence in that same issue just left his power behind and went into the void. There is no actual way to kill the presence. It is just insanely stupid to assume that beings like Lucifer, Trigon, Constantine, or Prayala could actually harm or could outsmart him. It is all part of his plan. He doesn’t have any feats because he doesn’t need to. He can do whatever he wants with the universe. He has a piece of him in everything DC (Even so called universe creators like Prayala). He argued that he can make beings that can appear able to match the presence or are beyond him, but that is all part of the plan. He doesn’t want to be God any longer. He wants to show that he is irrelevant to every other smaller dc being. Now Elaine Belloc has his power because the presence decided to stop.
The show “Lucifer” is part of DC. They showed his father(God) in the newest season. Is that god “the presence” or did they mess up the story in the show’s storyline
PLASE DC AND MARVEL MAKE LOTS OF NEWS CHARLTERS AND WILAMS AND OMIVERSE ENTTRITIES WHO CANT DESTROY ALL MARVEL AND DC OMNIVERSE AND WHO ARE MOST POWERFUL THAN ONE ABOVE ALL AND THE PRESENCE FAMILTY AND THE ONE BELOW ALL AND TRUE FROM F OBLIVION
He said he made a mistake what he meant is that humans have a hard time understanding him since he is omniscient the choices he makes can seem very cruel but from his perspective they don’t seem cruel because he’s omniscient and he knows what he’s doing
@@Ok-yc7sj overvoid and presence are the same. Lucifer 75 and swamp man 75. Upside down man is apart of creation. “I hold in my hand the whole of creation” he is basically warped dark magic. Well, THEY are. I don’t understand why you would even say hectate. Edit: forgot to say those are issues of comics. Just realized it would be confusing since no one else says it like that.
@@juniorqindes8335 1. Presence and The Overvoid aren’t the same. Lucifer 75 had them being seperate beings and he just resides inside of it. Swamp Thing had Presence being stalemated by The Great Evil Beast aka fraction of the Otherkind which Upside-Down Man transcends. Upside-Down Man is not part of creation seeing as how he is quite literally one with the Otherplace which infinitely dwarfs all of creation
@@riiddisbuk2496 those are not The Presence, and his appearance were shaped by the minds of living things in the Omniverse, The Presence we see is just his physical embodiment. He can’t be replaced because he is above everyone else in the DC Multiverse and he is the one and the same as the source and you can’t replace the source. The Presence is still around but he just doesn’t appear. When he says he was shaped by external forces he means the writers made him and that his physical form we see was shaped by the minds of humans. He is still the supreme being and is still present just not as prevalent. He is still around (and the evil presence we saw wasn’t him and it wasn’t as powerful as him either which is why Lucifer could kill him).
@@JaydenTa Be that as it may, I don't believe any fictional character to be omnipotent. They were created by their writers and artists. And God himself is the writer of his book.
@@riiddisbuk2496 The Presence is still the Supreme being in DC no matter what, i dont believe the transcending fiction and feeling the reader shit, and the writer character is still just a character, not the actual writer
Swamp thing 75 Lucifer 75. No, he is one in total with the void. Created by literally nothing. I say literally because the void as a concept makes it needed. We don’t actually have an absolute nothingness so without the word it’s difficult to... impossible to comprehend.
@@thedevilhimself1481 Lucifer still lives within the overvoid. Final heaven is above the overvoid and the Leviathan is above final heaven. Ergo, Leviathan of stories > Lucifer.
@@taroken8846 characters like Lucifer have beaten the presence. He’s also stated that he was created by external forces. Over moniter is a possible candidate but we don’t really know. Also John Constantine threatened him and he took it seriously
Does the presence ever show up as one of the greek gods in any dc movie and DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHO CREATED THE PLANET MALTUS in the dc universe ..... PRESENCE OR SOMETHING ELSE ?
This is not new DC, this is in comics before all movies, and all of this complicated powerfull charachters will be in live action for like 20+yrs if were lucky.
@@abstraction6212 I’m assuming that you meant to say that TOAB has also been defeated before. And while yes that is true, it hasn’t happened to it as much as the presence.
@@matthewleisure6710 TOBA was only defeated once by Thanos with the Astral Regulator and that comic was so messed up that its not considered to be proper cannon.
I finished the video and these scans don't really account for all the times the presence has lost or been defeated, namely when it was corrupted and had to be killed by lucifer. You also didn't address blight, a being equal to or more powerful than the presence. You also didn't address the collective unconscious, the place where God derive from.
@@Hoopergames I’m not going to argue with you since you’re probably right, but in my opinion DC has serious powers scaling issues that make it difficult to tell who’s stronger than who.
@@davidogundipe808 He isn't even omnipotent He got his ass whooped by weakened mandrakk The DC guidebook itself clearly states that presence isn't the supreme being in the greater omniverse Go get some knowledge lol
Would God and/maybe Lucifer be the most powerful characters in DC? As God is literally a DC character and God is meant to be all knowing and all powerful like capable of anything and instantly beating anyone or anything and can do anything! Unless DC version of God is underpowered which would be stupid and defy the character completely
@@kellyandrew6912 No they are same,plus Presence is not even on top 5 strongest in DC and he has the same lvl of power as TOAA God and croatia of multiverse, and this means TOAA is weaker from a loot of charachter that are from DC Universe.
The one above all and the presence is a tie because omnipotent beings can beat other omnipotent beings it's like your trying to hurt something you can't hurt
@@rogue9230 the precence has been defeated before and that automatically makes the one above all stronger and no astrol regulator thanos isn’t canon before you bring him up
DC as a whole. Trust me, I just looked into this a lot. It would be weird if he only controlled one considering he was before the split and wasn’t affected by the split. The one above all is the one separated and limited
So the supreme being of the DC multiverse is Teddy Roosevelt
It could also be Watson
😒🙄 right 😂
😂😂😂😂
Good ol Teddy
Speaking softly and carrying a big umbrella, that one.
The Presence is a God
And (fun fact: Presence is a Bible word, Presence of God)
Yeah, Isn't the presence like a representation of the Abrahamic GOD?
A Christian Scientist Jehovah God , angel of the Lord, God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob(Israel)
@Abhikrishna PS Right, Elaine Belloc is
@Abhikrishna PS false. Presence is the creator, Elaine had an aspect of it’s power and also the writer lost to a god damn animal human called animalman.
@Abhikrishna PS also overvoid is fodder and the collective unconscious is wanked fodder
Damn, god lookin dapper as hell
God gotta look respectable for his creations
If the presence did something about the Batman who laughs “timeline universe” I can only imagine what could’ve happened.
i guess you missed the part where its mentioned The Presence lets everyone make their own decisions aka free will
The comic would end in a few panels then...
I love these well thought out videos that clearly show that you have done your research. I also love how well you tell the story of any character. Also this comment is for the RUclips algorithm so more people will see these videos.
The Presence in a live action film staring Johnny Depp, Tom Hanks & Sean Penn.
Thank you that cleared things for me .I just got into comic and people bring comic statements that contradict each other . Like how two brother created dc then another told me a witch did , another said their is a third bro who did it, suddenly they have a mother out of nowhere or how space and time $&@$ so thay created dc and finally a void women did it .
Lucifer created his own verse. Called dc weak, etc.
it is known very well that the specter is way below michael and lucifer in terms of power. michael once beat specter and tossed him like a ragdoll . it was a minute affair
He's god's wrath. His power is dependant on The Presence's mood.
I did not know Wilford Brimley was so powerful.
Does Jesus exist in the dc universe?
These characters are literally god stop over analyzing and accept it lmao
He's also stronger than the most powerful in marvel
@@jameswest9752 Do you happen to know who's the strangest character in Marvel by any chance?
@@johnny622 the one above all
Lol.
@@theboul8099 I thought it was Santa clause unless it’s just mutants only than yea one above all
The presence is god himself
Batman: I’d win if I fought him
Lol nope (I know it's a joke, btw)
@@gonhunter3994 What if he has prep time!!!
@@johnny622 bruh no hes literally god he knows everything thats gonna happen
@@johnny622 bruh
@@johnny622 no Bruh we get it BaTMaan prep TiME! But just no
I'm so sick of the One Above All or the Presence. They don't do a single thing of note. They show up to remind people they exist. Enough already. Geez.
Hey! At least their good enough to put in an argument when people say no one or entity can beat a certain version of a superman 🤣
@imrankhan [x] how if u don't mind me asking
@imrankhan [x] They are fictional characters lmao
@@masonambrose1093 our god doesn’t even exist. Pretty much a comic book character just like the presence.
@ImranKhan How so?
He wasn't talking about the writers, when he said he was shaped by other forces, this has already been debunked many times... Also like the Endless, it matters who is looking at him, some see him the way the angels do, or the way superhero's do, as a writer.
He was talking about the Collective Unconscious...
@@Ok-yc7sj dude that is Vertigo exclusive. Vertigo and DC only merged but so much.
You guys are idiots. Shaping does not mean making. The presence has no true form and thus, gets multiple forms.
Who was it then ?
@@niceandflyy Human beings, it's a paradox.
I've got a question, how about The Writer aka Grant Morrison? In my opinion, he's the God of all DC since he's the executive and gave himself an avatar to fit in the DC storyline.
Yet died to animal man
@@DagothUrAmaranth fast fact: The WIRTER control in animal man
he made him to do that, and his back after that
@@emanon8336 writer is genuine fodder and the fact he died to animal man proves he is fodder
@@DagothUrAmaranth He can only die if he includes himself in a story.
Think about it, a comic character can't even interact with you unless YOU make fanfics about it, The Writer is just like you, every comic is fiction to him.
@@Soccwr-ej3to you fr a clown. what abc logic lol.
The most powerful character in DC is the page which is the page that the stories are written on grant Morrison said that the page can erase stories from existence that whatever he or another author writes on the page if the page wished to it would erase what's written in it even the presence imagine writing a story but then before your eyes it disappears from the pages it's written on making that story no longer exist all of the DC fiction could be erased if the page wished so
But gods like the Presence and Lucifer are well known outside of dc comics and with there standard there is one true god and in each universe it is just a copy then you could say the real Presence and darkside is outside dc comics then and the paper
@@daraghokane4236 grant Morrison said the page is the God of DC and can even erase what the writers write on it everything in DC exists on the page and is bound by it he says the page is the most powerful but if you disagree I'm fine with that
@@mayojar5264 Its not true they exist off the page too the endless are aspects of reality outside the comic
@@daraghokane4236 it's just what grant Morrison said in his IGN interview and as I said before if you disagree with his statements that's fine that's your interpretation of the lore I'm not in the mood today for a debate so if you believe that your correct im not going to fight you
To be fair, are they not suppose to represent the writter/readers in a way? Like they are ""our avatar"" kind of thing?
Only a matter of time before they turn the Presence into a black guy.
In Final Crisis Revelations (2008) and in Superman Beyond 1 and 2, it was shown that The Presence was murdered and consumed by a Monitor named Rox Ogama. He even took the famous Orb that the Presence had in the Vertigo Comics Lucifer 2000 series, just to prove he consumed The Presence.
So the most powerful dc character is the fat controller from Thomas the tank engine?
Pfff whit prep time Batman easy beats him
Tom and Jerry could beat him
mr monopoly man
Brother the over monitor is more powerful then one above all and the presence
I know only one who may stand up to him for he has done what presence has amazo
Actually the real most powerful being in DC is either the overvoid or the writers . You pick but the presence is not the most powerful being in DC .
The overvoid is the precense , grant Morrison said that
@@victorquiros2838 is that him but just mad?
No he didn't and this tells me you don't understand the overvoid at all , show when he said this assumption.
No the overvoid has been retconed
@@godslayer8894 Right hell Scott Snyder himself stated that.
"Webcamparrot" has a great vid explaining why he is not Dc's too dog, or close to it. Alot of people have attempted to debunk his points but I kinda agree with him. He provided too much evidence to support his claim.
@Johnah Arston
Webcamparrot seems pretty knowledgable when it comes to DC though. Lovecraft too.
@@davidnewhart2533 But he is wrong about the Presence. Sure he used the Lucifer-presence talk for a lot of his sources to prove the presence is not the supreme being. The issue with this is that the presence cannot really die. He even argued this to some degree. The presence in that same issue just left his power behind and went into the void. There is no actual way to kill the presence. It is just insanely stupid to assume that beings like Lucifer, Trigon, Constantine, or Prayala could actually harm or could outsmart him. It is all part of his plan. He doesn’t have any feats because he doesn’t need to. He can do whatever he wants with the universe. He has a piece of him in everything DC (Even so called universe creators like Prayala). He argued that he can make beings that can appear able to match the presence or are beyond him, but that is all part of the plan. He doesn’t want to be God any longer. He wants to show that he is irrelevant to every other smaller dc being. Now Elaine Belloc has his power because the presence decided to stop.
@@moisuomi I agree but he never gave up his power he simply abdicated the throne left Elaine Belloc in charge and gave her a power boost
@@hiddenjello61 True.
The show “Lucifer” is part of DC. They showed his father(God) in the newest season. Is that god “the presence” or did they mess up the story in the show’s storyline
Take it a bit further-- Someone or something is speaking through the DC writers and is using comics to describe itself. 4:09
4:25 What is that thing next to the Presence?
Lmao not sure but it’s creepy
Dr.Manhattan could easily destroy The Presence & The One Above All.
@am bored ._. I Presence isn’t Omnipotent
@am bored ._. I he was created by the source or Overvoid
@am bored ._. I no he didn’t
@@Ok-yc7sj yes he is
@@Ok-yc7sj yes he did
PLASE DC AND MARVEL MAKE LOTS OF NEWS CHARLTERS AND WILAMS AND OMIVERSE ENTTRITIES WHO CANT DESTROY ALL MARVEL AND DC OMNIVERSE AND WHO ARE MOST POWERFUL THAN ONE ABOVE ALL AND THE PRESENCE FAMILTY AND THE ONE BELOW ALL AND TRUE FROM F OBLIVION
Guys the monopoly man is the creator of DC 🫢
What is series is that Hawkman and Hawkgirl story from?
Why are too so many videos proclaiming characters being the strongest then another video saying some one else is the strongest
but if the presence has a hard time understanding humanis he is not omniscient
He said he made a mistake what he meant is that humans have a hard time understanding him since he is omniscient the choices he makes can seem very cruel but from his perspective they don’t seem cruel because he’s omniscient and he knows what he’s doing
So the monopoly guy.
Correct
Bruh, does the Presence even "Love" his creation. Is he even a loving god.
Rick sanchez is the most powerful being.
Funny kid
There are people who are supposed to be more powerful than the presence.
Supposed to be LMAO but never proven which is funny
Who?
@@juniorqindes8335 Mandrakk, The Upside-Down Man, Hecate, Overvoid, Pralaya, and plenty more
@@Ok-yc7sj overvoid and presence are the same. Lucifer 75 and swamp man 75. Upside down man is apart of creation. “I hold in my hand the whole of creation” he is basically warped dark magic. Well, THEY are. I don’t understand why you would even say hectate. Edit: forgot to say those are issues of comics. Just realized it would be confusing since no one else says it like that.
@@juniorqindes8335 1. Presence and The Overvoid aren’t the same. Lucifer 75 had them being seperate beings and he just resides inside of it. Swamp Thing had Presence being stalemated by The Great Evil Beast aka fraction of the Otherkind which Upside-Down Man transcends. Upside-Down Man is not part of creation seeing as how he is quite literally one with the Otherplace which infinitely dwarfs all of creation
The writer is the strongest
Not at all. For marvel and dc, there are multiple writers in each company and they don’t agree on a lot. So that claim becomes null.
Plus writer’s make it so they are fodder in-verse.
@@DagothUrAmaranth Me.Mxy slapped a writer before 🤣
You damn right I am
No he is not
So it’s based off of Christianity?
Elon Musk Can Buy Presence.
(plz no argument I don't know nothing about dc)
Bruh forgot Lucifer smh
Please Name of all the presence family
He is not the strongest in DC
Could have just said God
With The Presence being created and dying twice proves that he's not omnipotent. He was created by other beings and died twice.
he never died
@@JaydenTa But he's been beaten.
@@riiddisbuk2496 those are not The Presence, and his appearance were shaped by the minds of living things in the Omniverse, The Presence we see is just his physical embodiment. He can’t be replaced because he is above everyone else in the DC Multiverse and he is the one and the same as the source and you can’t replace the source. The Presence is still around but he just doesn’t appear. When he says he was shaped by external forces he means the writers made him and that his physical form we see was shaped by the minds of humans. He is still the supreme being and is still present just not as prevalent. He is still around (and the evil presence we saw wasn’t him and it wasn’t as powerful as him either which is why Lucifer could kill him).
@@JaydenTa Be that as it may, I don't believe any fictional character to be omnipotent. They were created by their writers and artists. And God himself is the writer of his book.
@@riiddisbuk2496 The Presence is still the Supreme being in DC no matter what, i dont believe the transcending fiction and feeling the reader shit, and the writer character is still just a character, not the actual writer
1st imma comment again when I finish the video though🌀
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@@carmendublin.1779 stop
Dudes who comment first are fucking clowns lmao
He is Jesus
No he isn't
does the rag doll have a name?
What comic issues is the presence
i wonder who makes his suit
Probably himself
Another avatar
W
What issue is this?
Thats Monopoly guy
The Presence is powerful but not omnipotent. This being was made by an "external force" from humanity.
Exactly I can name so many characters who put match him in DC!
No, his main physical appearance, was made by the beliefs of sentient creatures
Swamp thing 75 Lucifer 75. No, he is one in total with the void. Created by literally nothing. I say literally because the void as a concept makes it needed. We don’t actually have an absolute nothingness so without the word it’s difficult to... impossible to comprehend.
@@juniorqindes8335 The Presence was literally solod by Pralaya a.k.a an infinitesimal aspect of the Overvoid
@@Ok-yc7sj no he wasn't
the deep would solo
Leviathan of stories is the true supreme being
No he isn’t
@@thedevilhimself1481 Yh he is. He’s at the top of DC narrative.
@@dI9ESTIVES123 Lucifer is above narrative. Literally explained in Lucifer #4.
@@thedevilhimself1481 Lucifer still lives within the overvoid. Final heaven is above the overvoid and the Leviathan is above final heaven. Ergo, Leviathan of stories > Lucifer.
So his powerful then saitama or any other gods?
monopoly?? heeeeelloooo?
Ethan Bright
It’s actually not the presence
If u plan to object at least explain why or who
@@taroken8846 characters like Lucifer have beaten the presence. He’s also stated that he was created by external forces. Over moniter is a possible candidate but we don’t really know. Also John Constantine threatened him and he took it seriously
@@achimpanzee9210 What Lucifer killed was not the original Presence, only the aspect / Avatar
@@zerequnstrabless1837 that’s still debated.
@@achimpanzee9210 no
the writer solos the presence no defense.Cope💀
Does the presence ever show up as one of the greek gods in any dc movie and DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHO CREATED THE PLANET MALTUS in the dc universe ..... PRESENCE OR SOMETHING ELSE ?
Bro people are gonna hate me I bit I just miss the old dc like Batman and marvel😭like they make it to long and it’s so complicated😭😭
The presence isn’t new. Now perpetua and all that bs? Different story. Also you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.
This is not new DC, this is in comics before all movies, and all of this complicated powerfull charachters will be in live action for like 20+yrs if were lucky.
What if G.O.D had fades 😳
Monopoly man tf u doin here?
How's the present been killed by mister mister pillock.
The unwritten leviathan:
They should make a movie
I don't know, I stand by Wally Johnson as God
batman would find a way.
Why does he look like JP Morgan
Monopoly man is too op
The Presence is not DC's supreme being, if you would like to know who is watch webcamparrot's video on it:)
He was wrong would I think he wanted lucifer to kill him as a true act of getting his independece form him. Lucifer will no it was set up
@@daraghokane4236
He was right.
The overvoid is DC's supreme being and several characters are stronger than the presence.
@@jj5666 moroason said over void is an aspect of the presence. There is nobody stronger than the presence he's God the source of all things
@@daraghokane4236
Cap.
The Presence said he was created.
That automatically disqualifies him from being the Supreme being.
@@jj5666 yeah he was created by a writer
Monopoly man
Finished The Vid✅
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@@carmendublin.1779 stop
So hopefully we pass go in the after life and get another chance known as reincarnation? That would be cool.
wich he is not
Hese not
Fax
Better audio please.
3:57
I don't watch dc
But seriously!!
This uncle is the god??
Didn't that evil Monitor that fought CA Superman killed him?
No people need to stop thinking that
@@godslayer8894 Oh, ok
@@kaidoaboveakainu.622 when they were talking about the Dying God most people think they were talking about darkseid
The Presence vs The One Above All
One above all. The presence isn’t as powerful as most people think, he’s been defeated and even killed before.
So as one above all
@@abstraction6212 I’m assuming that you meant to say that TOAB has also been defeated before. And while yes that is true, it hasn’t happened to it as much as the presence.
@@matthewleisure6710 TOBA was only defeated once by Thanos with the Astral Regulator and that comic was so messed up that its not considered to be proper cannon.
@@thenovicegamer007 the presence was an actually defeated it was all part of his plan
So who came first? The one above all or the presence
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@@carmendublin.1779 stop
Presence
They from 2 different places and time
Presence debuted first.
So God looks like Monopoly man
Which one are you talking about
Hes not the most powerful being by a long shot, but I haven't finished the video yet so I'll give you time
He is the most powerful being
Edit: I wish to retract this statement, I am very wrong.
I finished the video and these scans don't really account for all the times the presence has lost or been defeated, namely when it was corrupted and had to be killed by lucifer.
You also didn't address blight, a being equal to or more powerful than the presence.
You also didn't address the collective unconscious, the place where God derive from.
@@KangarooMonkey he is not
I mean he literally has no power over Constantine. He can't be the absolute when he has no power over the laughing magicians
@@Hoopergames I’m not going to argue with you since you’re probably right, but in my opinion DC has serious powers scaling issues that make it difficult to tell who’s stronger than who.
Presence isn't even at top 10
Huh?
@@Katkus. shocking right?
@@Mr.unpronounceable he's number one stop the 🧢
@@davidogundipe808 He isn't even omnipotent
He got his ass whooped by weakened mandrakk
The DC guidebook itself clearly states that presence isn't the supreme being in the greater omniverse
Go get some knowledge lol
Top 10 of what?
Would God and/maybe Lucifer be the most powerful characters in DC? As God is literally a DC character and God is meant to be all knowing and all powerful like capable of anything and instantly beating anyone or anything and can do anything! Unless DC version of God is underpowered which would be stupid and defy the character completely
Unless The Presence is God lol
What comics can I read to better understand the presence?
The presence comic
@@Avocado_Ruler golf clap
@@Sharkskinm ok the DC comic
Any Lucifer comic
Any Spectre comic
Justice League Dark
Swamp Thing
@@Ok-yc7sj dragon ball z
Yu-Gi-Oh!
Naruto
Black clover
Pokémon
Attack on titan
Vinland saga
Dr stone
The rising of the shield hero
Death note
How about the one above all
Presence and TOAA are on the same lvl
@@twoxy7404 Nah, TOAA is far more powerful
@@kellyandrew6912 No they are same,plus Presence is not even on top 5 strongest in DC and he has the same lvl of power as TOAA God and croatia of multiverse, and this means TOAA is weaker from a loot of charachter that are from DC Universe.
the presence A-1
No the presence 0
OK if you tell me whos created the presence?? I will agree
You don’t have to look like a complete badass to become a god. You just need a simple suit.
When the flash kept changing time and darksied caused destruction why didn’t he fix it or the Batman who laughs that destroyed multiple universes
Free Will.
He says time and time again instead of lording over creation he instead does nothing but watch which is a monumental task in itself.
One above all vs dr. Manhattan vs the presence. Who wins
Marvel The One Above All
DC The Presence
DC Dr Manhattan
The one above all and the presence is a tie because omnipotent beings can beat other omnipotent beings it's like your trying to hurt something you can't hurt
@@rogue9230 dr Manhattan well already be dead in seconds and the only one standing are the two omnipotents
@@rogue9230 the precence has been defeated before and that automatically makes the one above all stronger and no astrol regulator thanos isn’t canon before you bring him up
@@theenjeneer2792 TOAA was beaten by HOTU tho these are all non-canon comics
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@@carmendublin.1779 stop
so...
does he only control his multiverse, or just DC as a whole?
DC as a whole
Only the Multiverse.
Just his creations
DC as a whole. Trust me, I just looked into this a lot. It would be weird if he only controlled one considering he was before the split and wasn’t affected by the split. The one above all is the one separated and limited
@@juniorqindes8335 he definitely does not control all of DC