I have one. The distortion problems have been fixed in a recent update, but it requires turning on an "experimental" setting in the Aero Base software. My biggest complains about it now with it now is that there is a little bit of ghosting/blurring when I moved my head around, black levels are not great, and no built in mic. The resolution is amazing, but this is definitely not the end all be all HMD.
@@AdrianoFeria It is the best HMD on the market. The black levels are a bit annoying but in regards to the mic, i'd rather every cent be put into the display rather than the mic. I can buy a good set of headphones with a good mic. I can't but a better display for my headsets.
I think the blurring at the edges is caused by foveated rendering. This uses the eye-tracking in headsets to only render what you look at in the full specified resolution while the rest of the scene is rendered somewhere below it to increase performance. If you go down to the tech specs of the Aero it states at the bottom the use of its eye-tracking for this. It can also explain the motion blur you experienced because the headset could have been trying to keep up with your eyes, making it seem blurry for a moment. not saying that foveated rendering is bad, but maybe since it is a fairly new technology, we haven't found a way to implement it perfectly.
@@Number494 no, it's due to the lenses. PSVR 1 also had aspheric lenses.... and has the same issue . although the aspheric lenses in this headset are far more premium (they are trying to adjust in software), some uses have reported getting use to it though after a few weeks of play
@@legendp2011 Aight. Just when he mentioned a sort of blurriness around the edges my mind went directly to foveated rendering. Although with the mention of distortion I do think you're right with it having to do with the lenses.
I turned off FOVeated rendering almost immediately. It made no difference besides the obvious increase to resolution around my eyes. I cut that clarification for time.
Give it a few years and these hi-end headsets will come down to home consumer. By the way, next Oculus headset will come at 800-900$ price, at least. No more unprofitable selling even for Zuck. Aero lenses though... so shits on Quest that when you put on Quest again you experience what it means to be blind and what low quality is really like.
I guess the distortion’s due to the fact the distortion for most VR headsets (with their spherical lenses) is corrected by every game out there. Since the lenses themselves already correct this distortion by default, it’s sort of a layered effect leading to the opposite form of distortion.
I feel like the headstrap resembles the bobovr m2 headstrap. It’s very comfortable and better other headstraps such as the elite or other cheaper amazon headstraps… the headset looks beautiful and decently performant. Thank you hip for your honest review like always 👍.
The headset has essentially 2 displays, one for the center one for the peripheral. The center is higher resolution. That can contribute to what you perceive as warping.
It's the lenses not the cable that are causing the distortion. Those special lenses cause a warping effect and the software in the headset is supposed to pre distort the image to lessen the effect and correct it.
yeah as a content creator he has to call it meta so that new people to the channel will know what he’s talking about. because eventually the oculus name will be impossible to be found on products, sites, etc.
I have always just called it my Quest 1 or 2 even when I had a Rift S that was just a Rift'd no Oculus, I think the only one I called Oculus was the DK2 don't see what the fuss is about it's just a name. 😊
@Beren Erdem id rather not spend the price of a samsung refrigerator on a vr headset. The quest is lighter, cheaper, and can be pretty good when linked to a pc. Once headsets like these become cheaper and more available, then yes it will destroy the quest but right now nothing competes with the quest 2’s price and availability.
@@smoothyodaproductions4373 This headset does absolutely rip and shred the quest. You seem to be misunderstanding something fundamental about the tech market. It's not about price for those looking for high quality, it's about the... high quality (duh), If you care about price, go ahead and pick the cheap stuff, no one's going to shame you. Just don't try to bring that mindset to to the performance table.
I've been through 2 index cables, both caused distortion/sparkling after even slight damage to the outer cable similar to the Varjo cable in this video. Hence my caution. That said. I'm not a cable professor geologist gynecologist so I don't know what I'm talking about.
It makes sense they sent you the consumer version, they would most likely want reviews on the one more people will be buying rather than the one for companies where as not nearly as many people will be buying it.
what you said about the quest 2 is so true, makes all the other VR headsets just seem irrelevent, and yeah hard pass on that $2000 price tag, I'll stick with my q2😂
the quest 2 is a horrible steam vr headset with my experiences tho. After a few weeks its only done harm to my brain trying to fix it from just freezing. standalone I do like it. (queality not as good but its fine)
Aspheric lenses means the curvature of the lens surfaces is not a perfect spherical shape. Meaning it’s not very easy to manufacture, they probably used injection molded optical plastics. Aspheric lenses reduces optical aberrations
0:51 that remembers me of all the 14 times that I've accidentaly thought my meta 2 controllers could fly (and now the trigger dowsnt wor so good in some games and I also have thumbstick drift sometimes)
Love the boneworks soundtrack in the BG. Anyway, I tried to use a Magic Leap and didn't get past the "Eye calibration"... So for the time being I have a bad taste off of this tech. I love my quest 1 so far but oh boy is it too heavy...
to be fair, if you already have the index controllers and base stations, at that point you could also just add the htc cosmos elite and htc wireless adapter. given the htc uses wigig technology there is much lower latency and much less compression
Hoping the Meta Cambria has some of these features for an affordable price. I know, META BAD but if the price is right they can have my personal data for some crispy vr goodness
Honestly why didn't anyone think of designing the strap like that, that's clever design. I haven't seen similar straps like that on the market yet (but I could be dumb for not looking harder in the markets)
Thanks to your review I could finally fix my issue with the cursor moving in the background while I was in vr. They still haven't fix it and a heads up, you should have enabled the distortion fix on the software to fix the edges warping out.
@@MultiWillow33 i mean yeah, but the difference between the industry standard and the quest two is insane, the quest 2 is a lot cheaper and the quality isnt much worse
@@haloinfiniteisagoodgame1163 that is correct, Q2 is really good, but I still find it a pain after hours of gaming. I am prepared to pay top dollar for something considerably better.
This may be completely wrong, but that word seems to be “a-spheric”, so I assume maybe the curvature is different from other typical lenses or something, which could have helped reduce glare?
I have the following (kinda my friend has the valve) Quest 2 Valve index VIVE pro 2 Lenovo explorer Quest 2 is superior. The quality is really good. It’s easy to set up, and it’s INVINCIBLE
its spherical, with an A... some background everyone makes spherical lenses because they're easy to make, but the reality of optics goes that you need a 7th order lens equation to make lenses this results in aspherical lenses
I feel like all the problems you state about the index has only happened to a little majority. Cuz for as long as ive had my index. about 1.5 years so for ive only had one issue an it was only in regard to the ear pad for the headphones on it. Never had those pesky preformence-controller issues. hell I even bought 2 pairs of controllers to combat it yet never had those problems. an ive smacked many things while in vr an they still run like new. I think the only real main problem I ever had was for the glare when looking at something really bright.
I mean the only reason i use my valve index more is because the fov is far better and the controllers are the best that you can get right now. other than that the quest is solid
I've genuinely got a question for this dude: Does he delete the drivers for all the headsets once he's done with the headsets he sends back? Or does he keep all the drivers installed? I'm genuinely curious...
"this is how headset strap should be made in all future headsets" Me: hey it's like the bobo VR headstrap I agree that headsets f****** dope, have it on my headset that f****** strap that goes over your forehead and basically makes The Quest feel weightless this f****** phenomenal.
Distortion huh? ^^' it's the lenses, which is why we have frenel lenses in most headsets now... gives lens flairs but less distortion. It's the trade off, barrel distortion vs lense flairs, which anyone who modded their OG HTC vive with the Samsung Gear Vr lenses knows extensively well about.
Here is the thing I could pay 380$ and get and Oculus Quest 2 and an official link cable. This would save me at least 1,620$ dollars not counting other things like controllers you’ll need to buy. So for in most ways the a little bit worse of a headset is a lot better considering the price difference. (I didn’t mention PC VR headset because I think they are to expensive)
Hmm... $2K... If it was standalone like the Quest 2, I'd have considered it. Plus, I want to wait and see how Cambria turns out before buying a new VR headset.
I'm excited about how this is the future of VR, but it's not a feasible headset to purchase with current hardware limitations, requiring a wire, etc. In 3-4 years when this tech is available for $500-600, includes controllers, and inside-out tracking with PC hardware that can push the pixels, then this will absolutely be incredible, but right now, we just aren't there yet.
Oculus quest 2 I mean meta quest 2 will always be my favourite, because it's the only VR headset i have
Me too The only other one I have is a PS VR and it is pretty shitty
@@surprisedman4859 I’ve actually considered getting that. What’s so bad about it??
@@steebelieves2632 Controllers don't recommend bunch of wires, just get the meta quest 2 with a £25 third party halo headstrap and if you want vrcover
Same
Me too
Just got to test one out. Also had some serious distortion issues 🙃 Such a shame.
do you say you name like "naysay"?
@@raccoonmanthing its pronounced nay-z
@@PzyTD4L I like Nayztwocents better. :)
I have one. The distortion problems have been fixed in a recent update, but it requires turning on an "experimental" setting in the Aero Base software. My biggest complains about it now with it now is that there is a little bit of ghosting/blurring when I moved my head around, black levels are not great, and no built in mic. The resolution is amazing, but this is definitely not the end all be all HMD.
@@AdrianoFeria It is the best HMD on the market. The black levels are a bit annoying but in regards to the mic, i'd rather every cent be put into the display rather than the mic. I can buy a good set of headphones with a good mic. I can't but a better display for my headsets.
I'm not sure why, but you're the only VR channel I actually watch for VR content/information. Love your vids man :)
Same here
:> It's true
SAME DUDE LOL
I think the blurring at the edges is caused by foveated rendering. This uses the eye-tracking in headsets to only render what you look at in the full specified resolution while the rest of the scene is rendered somewhere below it to increase performance. If you go down to the tech specs of the Aero it states at the bottom the use of its eye-tracking for this. It can also explain the motion blur you experienced because the headset could have been trying to keep up with your eyes, making it seem blurry for a moment. not saying that foveated rendering is bad, but maybe since it is a fairly new technology, we haven't found a way to implement it perfectly.
foveated rendering should not introduce distortions, just a lower resolution image
@@Bubatu7 You could be right. I was just going off of the example he gave at 10:19 which looked more blurred than distorted.
@@Number494 no, it's due to the lenses. PSVR 1 also had aspheric lenses.... and has the same issue . although the aspheric lenses in this headset are far more premium (they are trying to adjust in software), some uses have reported getting use to it though after a few weeks of play
@@legendp2011 Aight. Just when he mentioned a sort of blurriness around the edges my mind went directly to foveated rendering. Although with the mention of distortion I do think you're right with it having to do with the lenses.
I turned off FOVeated rendering almost immediately. It made no difference besides the obvious increase to resolution around my eyes. I cut that clarification for time.
for the same price i could buy a quest 2, a haptic vest, an omni-directional treadmill and still have plenty of money for some games/accessories.
Give it a few years and these hi-end headsets will come down to home consumer. By the way, next Oculus headset will come at 800-900$ price, at least. No more unprofitable selling even for Zuck. Aero lenses though... so shits on Quest that when you put on Quest again you experience what it means to be blind and what low quality is really like.
Smart man.
You could do that and maybe fit in a pc for pcvr
I guess the distortion’s due to the fact the distortion for most VR headsets (with their spherical lenses) is corrected by every game out there. Since the lenses themselves already correct this distortion by default, it’s sort of a layered effect leading to the opposite form of distortion.
I feel like the headstrap resembles the bobovr m2 headstrap. It’s very comfortable and better other headstraps such as the elite or other cheaper amazon headstraps… the headset looks beautiful and decently performant. Thank you hip for your honest review like always 👍.
The headset has essentially 2 displays, one for the center one for the peripheral. The center is higher resolution. That can contribute to what you perceive as warping.
I can’t wait for the technology to catch up and this quality of visuals becomes the norm for a reasonable price
It's the lenses not the cable that are causing the distortion. Those special lenses cause a warping effect and the software in the headset is supposed to pre distort the image to lessen the effect and correct it.
It aperantly has been fixed by an update.
I will *never* call it the Meta Quest. Oculus Quest now and **forever**
yeah as a content creator he has to call it meta so that new people to the channel will know what he’s talking about. because eventually the oculus name will be impossible to be found on products, sites, etc.
good luck
I have always just called it my Quest 1 or 2 even when I had a Rift S that was just a Rift'd no Oculus, I think the only one I called Oculus was the DK2 don't see what the fuss is about it's just a name. 😊
did you *just* figure out how to do *this* ?
What if someone pulls a gun on you and makes u say it
Honestly expected it to be priced higher, excited for how things are gonna turn out for future models in terms of accessibility
I just got the quest 3 for Christmas and the mixed reality
combined with hand tracking is just amazing man!
$3349 vs $500? yeah that's really the Quests greatest enemy.........
@Beren Erdem and it fails at that too lol
@Beren Erdem id rather not spend the price of a samsung refrigerator on a vr headset. The quest is lighter, cheaper, and can be pretty good when linked to a pc. Once headsets like these become cheaper and more available, then yes it will destroy the quest but right now nothing competes with the quest 2’s price and availability.
@Beren Erdem ok
@Beren Erdem you too lol
@@smoothyodaproductions4373 This headset does absolutely rip and shred the quest. You seem to be misunderstanding something fundamental about the tech market. It's not about price for those looking for high quality, it's about the... high quality (duh), If you care about price, go ahead and pick the cheap stuff, no one's going to shame you. Just don't try to bring that mindset to to the performance table.
5:27 I don't know what that noise is in the background, but I want to tear my ears out
The damaged cable wouldn’t have caused distortion. That’s not how cables work LOL
I've been through 2 index cables, both caused distortion/sparkling after even slight damage to the outer cable similar to the Varjo cable in this video. Hence my caution.
That said. I'm not a cable professor geologist gynecologist so I don't know what I'm talking about.
100% AGREE
It makes sense they sent you the consumer version, they would most likely want reviews on the one more people will be buying rather than the one for companies where as not nearly as many people will be buying it.
I like how you tried to make the damage that you did to the thing look like someone else did it before it had arrived. Nice moves. :D
what you said about the quest 2 is so true, makes all the other VR headsets just seem irrelevent, and yeah hard pass on that $2000 price tag, I'll stick with my q2😂
the quest 2 is a horrible steam vr headset with my experiences tho. After a few weeks its only done harm to my brain trying to fix it from just freezing. standalone I do like it. (queality not as good but its fine)
Aspheric lenses means the curvature of the lens surfaces is not a perfect spherical shape. Meaning it’s not very easy to manufacture, they probably used injection molded optical plastics. Aspheric lenses reduces optical aberrations
I cant belive the future we are going into with vr with eye tracking to full body tracking its great!
0:51
that remembers me of all the 14 times that I've accidentaly thought my meta 2 controllers could fly
(and now the trigger dowsnt wor so good in some games and I also have thumbstick drift sometimes)
Man I’ve been watching your videos since 74k subs and you content has never gotten old
How can they sell a $2,000 headset and not include base stations and controllers? I think that's a major negative for this headset.
Ive only read about it but this headset ive heard is by far the best…your review definitely makes me want to get one
It's so fun, definitely get side quest and gorilla tag when you ever start
2:02 the spoiled kid on Christmas
Love you GetHip ❤️
I never experience eye Strain when playing VR even after hours of playing
this is the first video of yours that i have watched and when jordan peterson suddenly dropped some bars i fkin lost it.
Never heard of this headset. Hope its good!
Love the boneworks soundtrack in the BG.
Anyway, I tried to use a Magic Leap and didn't get past the "Eye calibration"...
So for the time being I have a bad taste off of this tech.
I love my quest 1 so far but oh boy is it too heavy...
The only way to know if you actually love the headset if it replaces the index and quest 2 in your next streams and videos
Now we need this to be stand alone like the Oculu- er- I mean, Meta Quest.
Love your vids man, keep it up! 🔥
Gotta say. I’m happy vario gave it to you instead of thrill or anyone else. You are way more interesting for fellow smallbrains.
Quest 2 + Index controllers + inside out tracking and virtual desktop is the god build for me
to be fair, if you already have the index controllers and base stations, at that point you could also just add the htc cosmos elite and htc wireless adapter. given the htc uses wigig technology there is much lower latency and much less compression
Hoping the Meta Cambria has some of these features for an affordable price. I know, META BAD but if the price is right they can have my personal data for some crispy vr goodness
you are my vr mentor dude
I swear, how many headsets are coming out right now?
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Honestly why didn't anyone think of designing the strap like that, that's clever design. I haven't seen similar straps like that on the market yet (but I could be dumb for not looking harder in the markets)
Thanks to your review I could finally fix my issue with the cursor moving in the background while I was in vr. They still haven't fix it and a heads up, you should have enabled the distortion fix on the software to fix the edges warping out.
This was genuinely funny and informative. I was laughing all the way up until the end of the vid, “subscribe to GetHelp” 😂
Nice new vids u helped me figure out stuff about the quest
What does this mean
Your thumbnail is on a ad in my town in Austria for a Shopping-Center called Media Markt
Havent seen the video but love the video :)
Informative. May sponsors throw contracts at you throughout the year.
Indeed 🤣
dude this video is SO GOOD well done mate
Thanks Son.
@@GetHip no problem dad
lol
what im getting from this channel is the more expensive the headset the less bang for your buck
get hip: until now.
ALSO HIM HAVING A PC THAT CAN FOR SURE RUN AIR LINK
Quest 2 is still the best because it costs only 300 euros, is standalone, and easy to setup.
easy enough.
... colors are bad though. Aspherical lenses, eye tracking and more comfort are exactly the things Q2 lacks.
@@MultiWillow33 i mean yeah, but the difference between the industry standard and the quest two is insane, the quest 2 is a lot cheaper and the quality isnt much worse
@@haloinfiniteisagoodgame1163 that is correct, Q2 is really good, but I still find it a pain after hours of gaming. I am prepared to pay top dollar for something considerably better.
@@MultiWillow33 dude just spend like 30 minutes trying adjustments or different head straps and face covers
GetHip: within 20 minutes of using the quest 2 I get eye strain
me playing for 2 hours: weak
This may be completely wrong, but that word seems to be “a-spheric”, so I assume maybe the curvature is different from other typical lenses or something, which could have helped reduce glare?
I'm working for the oculus rift s and I already have a mic so it's fine my friends eardrums won't explode so dont worry about that
yo imagine if this company went and worked with Facebook to make the all mighty vr headset
Varjo 2400 euro and two controllers and two towers cost 600 euros in Finland ( 3000 euro) .The best set today but the price is high.
It's likely that the warping comes from the wider display the content may not have the same aspect ratio so it might be stretched to compensate
The distortion is caused by limitations in video game FOV. The higher the FOV the more stretched the image becomes.
You know its good when a British person says so
Not sure you know how sponsorship works lol. But great video anyway 👍
I have the following (kinda my friend has the valve)
Quest 2
Valve index
VIVE pro 2
Lenovo explorer
Quest 2 is superior. The quality is really good. It’s easy to set up, and it’s INVINCIBLE
You should try a Township Tale with it
7:55 is literally the exact same inhaler i have lmao
3 days, 5 thousand people. Nice work.
The tremendous joey diaz reference was tremendous
Honestly even with the quests standalone i usually use pcvr just because of the quests battery
I can feel more videos flexing the Varjio
Think they said quest 3 will come next year, rather waiting for that
Wow looks great, can't wait to sit in front of a mirror in VRChat with this baby!
I just got a quest 2 today!
its spherical, with an A... some background everyone makes spherical lenses because they're easy to make, but the reality of optics goes that you need a 7th order lens equation to make lenses this results in aspherical lenses
Imagin depth of field with the eye tracking
Varjo... pipe dream for us bushfolk downunder...
not going to lie i’ve played be like 5 times in my life and its so fun but i find it weird that i never gotten Motion sick
The first time I saw this headset I instantly wanted to try it
Is it just me or does his voice sounds like Hiccup's from "How to tame your dragon"?
When he said I got the cheap consumer version he legit sounded like a spoiled 5 year old
Waku up babe, new gethip video
Bruh I did not except the beginning💀💀💀
Wish people spoke more about how annyoing the charging can be on the quest 2 though.
Gangstas paradise at the start is pog
Nice review, thanks for being honest about it!
I feel like all the problems you state about the index has only happened to a little majority. Cuz for as long as ive had my index. about 1.5 years so for ive only had one issue an it was only in regard to the ear pad for the headphones on it. Never had those pesky preformence-controller issues. hell I even bought 2 pairs of controllers to combat it yet never had those problems. an ive smacked many things while in vr an they still run like new. I think the only real main problem I ever had was for the glare when looking at something really bright.
the valve index when failing is like fuck you im leaving
I was going to get this instantly then heard fricken 2000 quid and mic or tracking included
pov me thinking this is such a good headset might buy hears 2000 dollars clicks off
I mean the only reason i use my valve index more is because the fov is far better and the controllers are the best that you can get right now. other than that the quest is solid
FYI you can use the index controllers with this headset....so perfect for me
I've genuinely got a question for this dude:
Does he delete the drivers for all the headsets once he's done with the headsets he sends back?
Or does he keep all the drivers installed?
I'm genuinely curious...
You need to play the Bioshock mod for Alyx using it.
I would expect a like 6 grand headset to be unreal
I’m guessing you forgot about air link or virtual desktop and that’s why you didn’t play pcvr without a cable
it looks like a smaller valve index
"this is how headset strap should be made in all future headsets"
Me: hey it's like the bobo VR headstrap I agree that headsets f****** dope, have it on my headset that f****** strap that goes over your forehead and basically makes The Quest feel weightless this f****** phenomenal.
Distortion huh? ^^' it's the lenses, which is why we have frenel lenses in most headsets now... gives lens flairs but less distortion. It's the trade off, barrel distortion vs lense flairs, which anyone who modded their OG HTC vive with the Samsung Gear Vr lenses knows extensively well about.
Hi keep up the good work making the videos man
Here is the thing I could pay 380$ and get and Oculus Quest 2 and an official link cable. This would save me at least 1,620$ dollars not counting other things like controllers you’ll need to buy. So for in most ways the a little bit worse of a headset is a lot better considering the price difference. (I didn’t mention PC VR headset because I think they are to expensive)
Bro this guy kills me 😂😂😂😂
imagine playing boneworks with that headset SHEEEEEEEEESH
Hmm... $2K... If it was standalone like the Quest 2, I'd have considered it.
Plus, I want to wait and see how Cambria turns out before buying a new VR headset.
"asthmatic lenses"
I'm excited about how this is the future of VR, but it's not a feasible headset to purchase with current hardware limitations, requiring a wire, etc. In 3-4 years when this tech is available for $500-600, includes controllers, and inside-out tracking with PC hardware that can push the pixels, then this will absolutely be incredible, but right now, we just aren't there yet.