I have the r10 because of all the videos I've watched with you doing test on it...perfect for my situation which is exactly how ur using it in this video. Still amazed at the distances you get with NO backswing!!
@@keithgraczyk-uu8kn thanks mate, yes the r10 with the RCT ball is great. I do think the mlm2pro offers quite a bit more but that takes nothing away from the R10 being a great unit
So I assume you resubscribed to the MLM? No spin data without the subscription. I have the R10.. hole punch and some aluminum dots and it reads fairly well
I would love to see a comparison with both units having the most current software updates and the correct balls (RPT & RCT) for each unit. You would need a camera based unit for the baseline to compare accuracy. It's very hard to get a true assessment between these two units with almost every comparison being flawed and skewed one way or the other.
Good comparison video! I went with the Garmin R10 w Awesome Golf. I like the idea of a one time cost and not worrying about an annual subscription. From what I gather both units are great for anyone who wants a launch monitor on a budget.
I have the r10 only. And i pretty much only use it at the range. But I am going on my 3rd year now of having it. Having no extra fees over those years adds up. Tiny differences in distances and spin dont matter to me as much as im using the range balls that arent as good anyways and vary ball to ball on age and quality even then.
It is a great range device. How do you find the numbers though? I feel like with the r10 and not having a range ball algorithm that most of the numbers won’t reflect the same as on course with a premium ball ?
MLM2PRO takes the cake for its measurement capabilities. The day of reckoning will come when trial subscriptions run out. On principal I don't like core features like spin measurment being paywalled. I've owned both with the correct golf balls and the R10 was simply too unpunishing with side spin to be good for my game
I would love to see a comparison with both units having the most current software updates and the correct balls (RPT & RCT) for each unit. You would need a camera based unit for the baseline to compare accuracy. It's very hard to get a true assessment between these two units with almost every comparison being flawed and skewed one way or the other.
Hey Dmax, I've got myself into a review black hole trying to decide between these units. I'll be using it outside in the backyard and am leaning towards the R10 for the club head metrics. What's your perspective on having club head (path & face) vs spin axis? What's more important and useful for training and dialling in your swing? Cheers
Between these 2 the MLM2PRO is better. It gives you a lot more features. Both will give accurate numbers but MLM2PRO kills the R10 on spin axis and added benefits
Your video have been so helpful in deciding between these two products. Do you think the ball dots are just as accurate as the Callaway RPT balls? I play ProV1s so it makes me lean towards the R10, but if I can use those balls with the ball dots and be just as accurate it seems like the MLM2 is the better move.
I'm new at golf, but it looks like you might be using the awesome golf app - which to my surprise was showing shot tracer when hitting into a net - i like that! I recently bought a GoSports Pro 10x8 net - can i get shot trace and sim courses with either (or both) monitor when hitting into my net - would i have to lie to the mlm2 pro that i was in sim mode not net mode - THANKS for your help !!
@@davidmaxfieldgolf - I've decided the net and launch monitor will be used exclusively for training and sim course play - covered back patio in season - garage in winter - saw one of yer posts using spinoria 8, it's not too late for me to swap my GoSports Pro 10 x 8 for that model - given my plans what combo of net and launch monitor would you suggest for me - remember, the gotta have thr shot trace feature -- do you have any deals right now ? or what retailer would you otherwise suggest ? Thanks a TON Dave !
To start, my video monitor will be a rather portable 30" smart TV setting near where I stand - will there be difficulty serring the line for shot direction for whatever the target zone is?
Well that’s helpful but you need to know the face to path numbers are accurate. With the mlm2pro it records video of you impact vision and club coming into the ball. This is actually way better and more beneficial and more reliable than face to path from a radar unit that can’t actually see your clubface at impact like a GC quad can
@@davidmaxfieldgolf trackman uses a camera and lots of over head units do too All I’m saying is these under 1000 units arnt that great. Sure you can play sim golf and get your carry. But true club data
@@chachifeere Trackman use a camera from behind the ball but it’s still a radar unit. Check out TXGs review of Trackman vs Quad and how they differ in ball flights because in an indoor environment radar units in general struggle to read as accurately without the ball flight but outdoors they’re far better
Thanks all for watching! Which unit do you prefer?
I have the r10 because of all the videos I've watched with you doing test on it...perfect for my situation which is exactly how ur using it in this video. Still amazed at the distances you get with NO backswing!!
@@keithgraczyk-uu8kn thanks mate, yes the r10 with the RCT ball is great. I do think the mlm2pro offers quite a bit more but that takes nothing away from the R10 being a great unit
So I assume you resubscribed to the MLM? No spin data without the subscription. I have the R10.. hole punch and some aluminum dots and it reads fairly well
I would love to see a comparison with both units having the most current software updates and the correct balls (RPT & RCT) for each unit. You would need a camera based unit for the baseline to compare accuracy. It's very hard to get a true assessment between these two units with almost every comparison being flawed and skewed one way or the other.
Good comparison video! I went with the Garmin R10 w Awesome Golf. I like the idea of a one time cost and not worrying about an annual subscription. From what I gather both units are great for anyone who wants a launch monitor on a budget.
Well said!
I have the r10 only. And i pretty much only use it at the range. But I am going on my 3rd year now of having it. Having no extra fees over those years adds up. Tiny differences in distances and spin dont matter to me as much as im using the range balls that arent as good anyways and vary ball to ball on age and quality even then.
It is a great range device. How do you find the numbers though? I feel like with the r10 and not having a range ball algorithm that most of the numbers won’t reflect the same as on course with a premium ball ?
So from the sounds of it if I choose the Garmin I should have a black hitting net to help pick up the ball better.
Or a solid sheet. Definitely helps a lot
The R10 is a Doppler radar, it doesn’t see colour!
@@jonallsop7502 no but it will get distracted by moving trees etc in the background
MLM2PRO takes the cake for its measurement capabilities. The day of reckoning will come when trial subscriptions run out. On principal I don't like core features like spin measurment being paywalled. I've owned both with the correct golf balls and the R10 was simply too unpunishing with side spin to be good for my game
It’s seems to be a common objection with the subscription, will be very interesting to see what it actually offers.
haven't decided on which monitor yet - leaning Garmin R10
Mlm2pro is better
I would love to see a comparison with both units having the most current software updates and the correct balls (RPT & RCT) for each unit. You would need a camera based unit for the baseline to compare accuracy. It's very hard to get a true assessment between these two units with almost every comparison being flawed and skewed one way or the other.
I’ve done that using the st+ as a baseline
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Hey Dmax, I've got myself into a review black hole trying to decide between these units. I'll be using it outside in the backyard and am leaning towards the R10 for the club head metrics. What's your perspective on having club head (path & face) vs spin axis? What's more important and useful for training and dialling in your swing? Cheers
Between these 2 the MLM2PRO is better. It gives you a lot more features. Both will give accurate numbers but MLM2PRO kills the R10 on spin axis and added benefits
Your video have been so helpful in deciding between these two products. Do you think the ball dots are just as accurate as the Callaway RPT balls? I play ProV1s so it makes me lean towards the R10, but if I can use those balls with the ball dots and be just as accurate it seems like the MLM2 is the better move.
Thanks for watching. I think the RPT balls are best for sure but the dots do work
I'm new at golf, but it looks like you might be using the awesome golf app - which to my surprise was showing shot tracer when hitting into a net - i like that! I recently bought a GoSports Pro 10x8 net - can i get shot trace and sim courses with either (or both) monitor when hitting into my net - would i have to lie to the mlm2 pro that i was in sim mode not net mode - THANKS for your help !!
There is a way to use GoPro on the mlm2pro 😁
@@davidmaxfieldgolf - I've decided the net and launch monitor will be used exclusively for training and sim course play - covered back patio in season - garage in winter - saw one of yer posts using spinoria 8, it's not too late for me to swap my GoSports Pro 10 x 8 for that model - given my plans what combo of net and launch monitor would you suggest for me - remember, the gotta have thr shot trace feature -- do you have any deals right now ? or what retailer would you otherwise suggest ? Thanks a TON Dave !
To start, my video monitor will be a rather portable 30" smart TV setting near where I stand - will there be difficulty serring the line for shot direction for whatever the target zone is?
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No shouldn’t be a problem at all.
Disappointing that putting ball dots on non rpt balls work considering I just put the rpt pattern on 1 dozen balls a couple of hours ago..
They normally do work just fine, I think a couple of mine must have come off early which probably mucked up the readings
I got really mixed results.. some were only up to 1500 rpms as low as 900 with a pitching wedge. Then had some as high as 12000 with a 5 iron
it still has connection issues the mlm2pro?
Mostly fixed now
You need face and path numbers to improve your swing. If you want carry and total that’s fine but that’s not enough information
Well that’s helpful but you need to know the face to path numbers are accurate. With the mlm2pro it records video of you impact vision and club coming into the ball. This is actually way better and more beneficial and more reliable than face to path from a radar unit that can’t actually see your clubface at impact like a GC quad can
@@davidmaxfieldgolf trackman uses a camera and lots of over head units do too
All I’m saying is these under 1000 units arnt that great. Sure you can play sim golf and get your carry. But true club data
@@chachifeere Trackman use a camera from behind the ball but it’s still a radar unit. Check out TXGs review of Trackman vs Quad and how they differ in ball flights because in an indoor environment radar units in general struggle to read as accurately without the ball flight but outdoors they’re far better
I thought the distances were actually close but other numbers were a bit farther apart. Another great review David!!🏌♂⛳
Thank you, and yes it’s the other numbers that come into it quite a bit but mostly the carry was very close between the units