Upgrading a PRS SE into a Core PRS

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @rickhammel9541
    @rickhammel9541 5 месяцев назад +24

    one tip, when you want to highlight the difference in sound, do quick A/B of a few seconds so you can really compare instantly. good job

    • @Mememememe9512
      @Mememememe9512 4 месяца назад

      Fr I thought the Dr pickups sounded better

  • @AMP-gh4vt
    @AMP-gh4vt 9 месяцев назад +15

    The clarity of the new pick ups sounded so much better, nice work!

  • @lewisbeeman
    @lewisbeeman Год назад +38

    It is always worth upgrading a guitar to your liking. It is enjoyable to do, the guitar is personalized to fit you, and if you like it more, you will play it more. Great Job.

    • @sirspongadoodle
      @sirspongadoodle Год назад

      or just yaknow.. practice?? oh what am i saying spending 300$ on pickups that dont alter the sound at all will surely make you sound amazing.

    • @lewisbeeman
      @lewisbeeman Год назад +5

      @@sirspongadoodle can’t you do both? Or are you just looking to make snippy condescending sarcastic comments?

    • @sirspongadoodle
      @sirspongadoodle Год назад

      @@lewisbeeman are you just going to read the first 4 words of a comment....
      lewisbeemans mum is a queen bee in the bed.

    • @lewisbeeman
      @lewisbeeman Год назад

      @@sirspongadoodle you’re a dolt

  • @arthurlove1002
    @arthurlove1002 Год назад +16

    Bought a used Tremonti SE Custom/ upgraded to locking tuners, core tremonti pickups, added coil split for bridge, changed to John Mann floating bridge with brass tone bar, knobs and strap pegs left original. Cost under 1000 and it sounds and plays fantastic! Well worth it!

    • @TheApsodist
      @TheApsodist 3 месяца назад

      Did that too! Except I used different pickups

  • @mistermatsuda
    @mistermatsuda Год назад +3

    Budget versions of your favorite guitars are prime subjects for upgrades. Making it your own keeps things fun and interesting.

  • @Rob-qr2kn
    @Rob-qr2kn Год назад +2

    I have a PRS SE FLOYD. I had the back of the neck sanded to make it feel more satin like. I took out the 85/15's and put in the PRS \m/ Metal Buckers. I put locking tuners on the head stock. I put the tone and volume knobs on it from a core. Is it a core, no, but it IS better than what it was. People actually think it is a core Until they see the SE on the head stock.

  • @mattmattmatt8984
    @mattmattmatt8984 Год назад +13

    Wow, the sound improvement is clear as night and day! The tone is much more dynamic and full bodied! Nice job!

  • @donniecline6881
    @donniecline6881 Год назад +1

    I upgraded my SE Tremonti Custom with phase ii locking tuners, brass bridge from the core models, Tremonti pickups, new pots and finally turn the back of the neck to a satin finish.
    This guitar is now one of my favorites.

  • @MarbsMusic
    @MarbsMusic Год назад +7

    The main difference is that the Tremonti, even the SE, is a 25" scale length while the 245 is 24.5" giving it a different sound and feel. Don't get me wrong, phenomenal job with the upgrades!!! I just added the SE locking tuners, Schallar S-locks and lampshade knobs to my SE DGT, amazing how much the knobs effect the look of the guitar in regards to SE vs Core. Fretboard staining is killer!
    If you do ever decide to buy the Core, the Tremonti is worth it. I didn't get a 10 top and got mine a couple of years ago but it's hands down my favorite guitar out of my collection. The Termonti pickup set are probably my favorite pickups of all time. Looking to put them in some of my other guitars. The sound great in your 245!

  • @willarddickerson921
    @willarddickerson921 Год назад +7

    I truly appreciate what you have done. I might be doing the same thing to another guitar in the future. It's always good to see someone perform the work. I think I might be a visual learner.

  • @jamesdeananderson1411
    @jamesdeananderson1411 Год назад +60

    The pickups made a massive difference. Cool job with the stain marker, too. Overall, a much better guitar.

    • @Instrument.Identity.Disorder
      @Instrument.Identity.Disorder  Год назад +1

      Thanks!

    • @sirspongadoodle
      @sirspongadoodle Год назад

      no watch glenn frickers pickups demo.. pickups dont really make a difference AT ALL.

    • @mountainman8775
      @mountainman8775 Год назад

      @@sirspongadoodlehehe sarcasm tho

    • @sirspongadoodle
      @sirspongadoodle Год назад

      @@mountainman8775 what?

    • @mountainman8775
      @mountainman8775 Год назад

      I just doubted you’re serious… Glenn’s opinion on pickups flies in the face of generations of guitar players - but, crucially, flies in the face of every top tier guitar virtuoso that ever lived. It’s the same with the tone wood debate. It’s fine for armchair activists on RUclips, but for anyone who has earned the title guitar god and amongst the top most respected of the instrument, they all agree that pickups and the wood used for construction affect the tone enormously.
      The only exception is if your ears are tuned into the metal genre, where so much saturated distortion is layered on it really covers over the pickup tone for real… cue Glenn Fricker.
      Edit: btw love and really appreciate Glenn Fricker’s content tho, he covers so many bases and puts a lot of his expertise out there for free. And if I don’t agree with him on this, he is always true to himself and says what he thinks.

  • @jtteague
    @jtteague Год назад +4

    The guitar looks great. The upgrades, I believe, are the right ones for the SE. In the end, your guitar is your guitar, so your changes reflect your priorities. The Tremonti pickups with the nut upgrade transform into a brighter sound with more punch and a tighter response. I enjoyed watching the video. The most difficult part of choosing a PRS US model over an SE is that the SE is very well built. If I buy a low price Gibson, it sounds like a low end Gibson. It's a lot harder to tell with the PRS model. I was fortunate enough to buy a signature model Silver Sky. But I lament at times if it's worth it over the SE version. I love the Silver Sky, and my S2 McCarty 594. But their SE counterparts are damn good guitars.

  • @undersoundproductions1915
    @undersoundproductions1915 2 месяца назад +2

    I have that exact guitar made in Indonesia and after watching this i will not change a thing about it. Thank you.

  • @rocklives8251
    @rocklives8251 Год назад +3

    I would recommend not gluing the nut until you've checked out. It's. I had to sand on mine quite a bit to get it to sit nicely. I ordered the graphtech nut but it was white and tiny, so I bought a core nut, a couple dollars more. I have a custom 24 se, I recently added a brass sustain block to the tremolo. It really gave me a much better note attack, I didn't expect much difference but it was a pretty noticeable change, the nut also improved the tone, and of course the Seymour Duncan pickups were a huge improvement. Now I live that guitar. It was set up terribly when I got it, but it just felt great. I am so glad I made the effort to upgrade it. It's awesome now

  • @RokDAWG1
    @RokDAWG1 Год назад +9

    I’m not a PRS guy but can appreciate your efforts. You did an awesome job with this guitar! 🤘

  • @theboneyard6618
    @theboneyard6618 Год назад +5

    I have the exact same guitar, same color and everything, fitted some
    strap locks and upgraded the pups to SD invaders which made a massive difference, the stock pups were a big disappointment in my opinion but now the guitar sounds fantastic. Also treated the neck with a dark linseed oil and had a professional set up with fret job. Will have to get a set of those control knobs, they look great Great video.

  • @im58woody
    @im58woody Год назад +39

    For newbie’s at doing this type of work take some pictures before you disassemble the parts and wires.

    • @Instrument.Identity.Disorder
      @Instrument.Identity.Disorder  Год назад +10

      Agreed! I actually mentioned taking pictures at one point but I accidentally cut out that part of the video! 🙂

    • @thomasmaynard6125
      @thomasmaynard6125 Год назад +2

      Also be descriptive and write were everything goes because pictures can still leave you lost so having both also helps you remember

    • @mrroye
      @mrroye 5 месяцев назад

      @@thomasmaynard6125 O did a screen grab. I can see everything so clearly

    • @tinepapa7821
      @tinepapa7821 4 месяца назад

      Good job 👏🏽

  • @angusorvid8840
    @angusorvid8840 Год назад +9

    Absolutely awesome mod! I modded a PRS SE a couple years ago and it made a huge difference. But it was already a great guitar to begin with. The SEs are a great value, especially when you can find a used one in great condition like yours. I upgraded the pickups to a Duncan JB/Jazz set and it was amazing. Your PRS sounds better with the Tremonti than the stock pups, which I found a bit muddy. I've been a fan of PRS since I first played one at a local West L.A. music shop in 1987. I was just knocked out by the quality of the instrument. But I didn't actually get my first PRS till a few years ago, which was the SE. I loved that guitar. I ended up trading it to a friend for a strat, and although I liked the strat I should have kept the PRS, which my friend has since sold to buy himself an Ibanez. I will be getting another SE this year, probably like yours. Even the SE line is so far superior to Gibsons high end line that it's mind-blowing Gibson even stays in business. Gibson just floats on their legacy selling lawyer guitars. Yeah, I know the high end PRS models could be called lawyer guitars because of how expensive they are, but I still have to hand it to them, PRS builds extremely fine guitars, and that quality trickles down to their S2 and SE models. With a little tweaking you can make an SE absolutely perfect, which is what I recommend to players who want to get a PRS without going for a core and breaking the bank. Another thing I live about PRS is that most of their instruments, with a few exceptions like the Santana models, are 25 scale. Not 24, not 25.5, but 25. I think that's a very happy medium between strat and Gibson scale. Rock on.

    • @Instrument.Identity.Disorder
      @Instrument.Identity.Disorder  Год назад +2

      Thanks! I agree PRS makes some amazing guitars across the entire line.

    • @angusorvid8840
      @angusorvid8840 Год назад +3

      @@Instrument.Identity.Disorder Videos like this are a great thing for guitar players. A lot of players make the perfect the enemy of the good, and all you've got to do to find the perfect guitar is find a quality ax like an SE and give it a few tweaks, and voila! A perfect rock and roll machine. Sometimes all it takes is a better gauge and set of strings and a little adjusting and there it is. It's exceedingly rare to ever find a guitar right off the rack that's perfect no matter the price.

  • @dart3407
    @dart3407 Год назад +11

    Excellent video. I have done similar upgrades on some of my guitars in the past. That said, it was like watching myself from the third prospective. :^) I also think that the guitar does sound more then a bit better! The new pups made a big difference. Much more clarity in the notes and combinations thereof.

  • @wayneroy6694
    @wayneroy6694 Год назад +12

    This is what I basically have done with all my guitars. I'm a paramedic. So I can't afford the guitars I like most. So I buy the version I can afford, and modify until it's as close as possible to the one I wanted in the first place. Some, I've bought the parts for over time, and then eventually assembled the guitar I couldn't afford. Most, I've bought the lower end model and upgraded it a piece at a time. My Tele is basically a Brent Mason Tele, but in butterscotch. One of my Strats is essentially a Clapton Signature Strat, just without the signature. My Les Paul is a Tribute model with upgraded PAFs and a Jimmy Page circuit mod. So basically, I buy the guitar I can afford. Then I tweak it into the one I wanted.

  • @EarlofBaltimore
    @EarlofBaltimore Год назад +16

    The reason you probably got such a killer deal on your 245 is because it has been discontinued in favor of the 594. Very comparable guitars, the 594 just has a slightly different neck profile and scale length as well as different pickups. The stock nut on the 245 isn't plastic, it's similar to a GraphTech. All good choices for upgrades though, well done.

  • @aaquique
    @aaquique Год назад +19

    Awesome job. It sounds more defined with the Tremonti’s

  • @MarkStabel-f8w
    @MarkStabel-f8w Год назад +6

    Steve, nice job! Always worth a little tinkering to get that exact custom fit !

  • @im58woody
    @im58woody Год назад +5

    You did some excellent work on this PRS. Very clear and concise.

  • @Adipsia1
    @Adipsia1 Год назад +5

    Lovely job. A massive improvement in terms of tone and looks.

  • @jaketaylor6747
    @jaketaylor6747 Месяц назад

    I'm 1 minute in and you say your most desired guitar is the tremonti. That's music to my ears as im watching this video with a used and a new prs tremonti pickups looking to be installed. That's why I'm watching this to learn to install these badboys.

  • @bradleyshuppert3393
    @bradleyshuppert3393 6 месяцев назад

    The full on clarity and tightness cannot be mistaken to the upgraded Tremonti set. They have such a huge round and full open sound but with a tightness and clarity beyond the stock pickups. Highly worth the great effort and work you did to this SE. Much respect in taking this dive into making an SE “Something Extra” “Special Edition” “Super Elegant “ you get it…. SE…. Sweet

  • @robertcop8825
    @robertcop8825 Год назад +2

    You ain't kidding about the QC of PRS. I bought my Tremonti SE back in 2011 when they were still Korean made for $549 CAD. Couldn't believe how great it felt, how it played. That day I also tried out a $1500 Gibson Les Paul and it didn't compare to this Korean PRS SE. I'll never forget it.

    • @Dave-nm3xc
      @Dave-nm3xc 6 месяцев назад

      I bought the same model in 2019, and I had the same experience. It feels as high quality as any Gibson I've ever played. It shouldn't be such a good guitar. I have a similarly priced Telecaster that is trash in comparison.

  • @slverwoerd2335
    @slverwoerd2335 Год назад +2

    great updates! One question (and i might be losing eyesight or it s a visual deception): isnt the spacing on the nut between G and B strings off? look at screen at 21;00 minutes exactly. Or did I miss something?

  • @nebben01
    @nebben01 8 месяцев назад

    I did something similar with a PRS S2 Custom 24 "special run" I bought from Chicago Music Exchange (the special runs have a Quilt Top and an Ebony Fretboard). I bought the guitar as Demo about 2 weeks ago ~3/1/2024, so I got it for $1570 before sales tax, retail is $2099. After I received the guitar and gave it a couple of hours play time, I polished it with Gibson Pump Polish and could not find a blemish anywhere, I can't believe CME sold the guitar for $600 below retail in such great condition. Anyway, I swapped the OEM 85/15 S pickups with a set of TCI 85/15 Pickups I was able to get brand new as a pair for $350 on Reverb. The pickup swap alone was a huge improvement, but then I added a Mann Made solid brass Bridge Block (Custom 24 has a Tremolo and String-Thru configuration as many of you probably know). The Mann Made brass Bridge Block kit also included a set of 6 Nickle plated brass saddles as well. The guitar is a Rock & Roll machine now! I can't believe how much the guitar has improved, especially considering how good it was to begin with. I need to replace the nut (only thing I haven't done, the S2 came with locking tuners so saw no need to replace those). Definitely thinking about ordering a TUSQ nut for my S2 Custom 24 now!!

  • @rkrock2514
    @rkrock2514 Год назад +1

    You started with a great foundation! That color is Bad@zz! Each upgrade improved intonation & tightness; Clear high notes, tight & punchy lows. Full thick, rich drive tones! Now it sounds as good as it looks!
    I hope to give my PRS SE Custom Semi-hollow some of these upgrades soon. Thanks!

  • @deadkennedyrolls21
    @deadkennedyrolls21 Год назад +8

    Great video! I've always upgraded my SEs and it's well worth it if done sensibly. I also have a Core US CU24 and you are right that it's on another level, but the SEs can be fine tuned into great guitars. I have an early 2008 SE CU24, SE Dave Navarro, SE Mikael Ackerfeldt and an SE Angelus and all have benefitted from upgrades.

  • @wakledodd
    @wakledodd Год назад +1

    What I difference the pickups made, the clarity of the clean and the much more distinct distortion. Thanks for doing this!

    • @ces69
      @ces69 Год назад

      Listen back to the demo’s, I think a lot of the improvement is better tuning and intonation!

  • @ToneGuy007
    @ToneGuy007 Год назад +4

    It is really the neck feel that separates the guitar from an SE to a Core. My SAS core neck is the best feeling neck of all the guitars I have ever owned. Aside from that the pickup upgrades and tuners upgrades can make a lot of difference in a guitar as I have done those modifications on numerous guitars. Definitely can hear the difference between the stock vs. mod versions on this. Great job!

  • @jakethebard
    @jakethebard Год назад

    I did a similar customization to my 2020 Exotic Edition SE Custom 24. I upgraded to the PRS locking tuners, put a set of Maryland-made 85/15 pickups in it, the PRS 5-way super switch, I swapped out the import tremolo to a PRS tremolo from Mannmade USA (John Mann was the designer and original fabricator of the PRS tremolo), I put the coated Fender tremolo springs in , and I swapped out the pots and caps for upgraded parts. For the push/pull, I decided on a push/push tone pot. I love the functionality of a push/push way more than a push/pull. In retaining a push/push tone pot in addition to the 5-way super switch, I ended up with more tones than even a Core model Custom 24. And of course I also swapped out the strap buttons for Dunlop strap locks. I also had the frets Plek'd. I think that's all the modifications I've made to my guitar. I absolutely love it.

  • @alekstan
    @alekstan Год назад +1

    Projects are fun even if it doesn’t increase the value of the guitar to anyone else but you. I’d like to get a PRS Tremonti SE to do similar upgrades just for the pleasure of doing the job. I wouldn’t want to modify a premium guitar model. Great video.
    Thank you.

  • @peterjones4621
    @peterjones4621 Год назад +1

    That was fun to watch, I also have a inexpensive SE model, the John Mayer model and will probably do the same in the future. I'm glad you had played something on the guitar and recorded it and then played the same piece on the newly updated guitar to hear the difference. This difference was very noticeable, much cleaner and distinct tones, a definite improvement. You definitely have me convinced to do the same to my SE. That was fun to watch, new subscriber, thank you. Take care.

  • @_Yep_Yep_
    @_Yep_Yep_ Год назад +16

    Staining the neck is oddly the biggest improvement in my book. I would have never contemplated that, rather, id have steel wool'd a finish off the back like any other hand tool id spend time with. The fretboard politely sucked up the stain uniformly and looks cooler. Pickups, tuners, nut obviously cleaned up the sound, but the neck stain seems like it just laid down and opened its legs for a first time DIY to let you feel okay taking a shot at something else later on. Pretty neat, Stevie.

    • @Instrument.Identity.Disorder
      @Instrument.Identity.Disorder  Год назад +3

      Thanks! I am still thinking about taking the finish off the back of the neck to make it more satin.

    • @_Yep_Yep_
      @_Yep_Yep_ Год назад

      @@Instrument.Identity.Disorder The caveat to taking the gloss off is that it effectively "ruins" the guitar in regards to resale, so you have to go into it noting its a keeper and not a flipper. If youre keen on the idea and because its also nicely painted; I'd suggest practicing on a spray painted piece of test scrap. You can also go an extra bit and drive over to your local Maco and ask the car painter guy person to person (rather than trust the internet) how to approach it just right so you can feel more confident about not screwing up the paint. I know its nitpicky, but this is something special because of what you put into it. Even if you keep the neck sticky, its still a really good guitar and you did a great job on the project, by the way.

    • @tempestfury8324
      @tempestfury8324 Год назад

      I would have never done that.

    • @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power
      @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power Год назад

      That's one hell of analogy 😬

  • @joeking433
    @joeking433 10 месяцев назад +1

    I got a PRS SE Standard 24 for $550 Plek'd (from C&M Kenner Music in Louisiana) via Reverb. It has a great neck but the high E bridge saddle won't totally intonate because the saddle hits the screw. There's always something that makes a SE not a Core.

  • @iamrichlol
    @iamrichlol Год назад +3

    Amazing! definitely sounds way way better, especially with the cleans!
    Refinish it!

    • @LowMyco99
      @LowMyco99 Год назад +1

      For sure. Even the distorted tone was tighter and had a ton more clarity. The guitar definitely sounds better with the new pickups.

  • @markpell8979
    @markpell8979 Год назад +1

    A tip on changing tuners (switches and pots too that secure with a washer or bushing and a nut) is finger tighten with a socket as firmly as you can but don't use the wrench handle- that much extra torque is overkill when attaching a metal thing to a wood thing. Finger-tight with your firmest grip on the socket is tight enough, and you won't crush the wood or damage the finish that way. As much.

    • @mrfuriouser
      @mrfuriouser Год назад +1

      That's called "mechanical sympathy" and it is a great skill to learn. Not just on guitars, on anything! Great advice, my man.

    • @markpell8979
      @markpell8979 Год назад +1

      @@mrfuriouser Absolutely! You gotta have some feelings for the materials. I believe in 'optimum torque' for the given situation.

  • @Rider-hh9it
    @Rider-hh9it Год назад +2

    When removing the pickups I’d recommend connecting a pull string to the potentiometer side of the wire to assist the installation of the new pickups.

    • @sirspongadoodle
      @sirspongadoodle Год назад

      why remove pickups.. if you even use mild overdrive the tonal difference from 1 humbucker to another humbucker is unnoticable.

  • @59-LesPaul
    @59-LesPaul 9 месяцев назад

    I started upgrading my PRS SE Custom 24 Laurel Burl but it's on hold because I wound up in the hospital, I can hear the difference in the pickup's you've installed, great job you did I love the sound and looks

    • @dowaliby1
      @dowaliby1 6 месяцев назад +1

      Hope you are better now...

  • @GooberNumber9
    @GooberNumber9 Год назад +1

    When I replaced the nut on my SE, I found the new nut was much too tall from the factory, so I slowly and carefully sanded down the bottom of the nut and then test fit it, back and forth, until the nut slot heights were back in spec for the guitar. When I glued the new nut in, I did it with high and low E strings on with tension so they helped to center the nut while the glue was still liquid. Just some thoughts on nut upgrades.

  • @guitarguy7428
    @guitarguy7428 Год назад +1

    Totally worth it! I've rewired most of my guitars, changing pickups and splitting coils. Make the guitar exactly how you want it!

  • @jannelarsson
    @jannelarsson 8 месяцев назад

    Well done Stevie. The pickups did really made a big differens. And it sure must be nice to have locking tuners. Im gonna fix my 245 as soon as possible. Thank you for all inspiration. 🥇

  • @IndyRockStar
    @IndyRockStar Год назад +76

    You know, I thought the same way. I bought a bunch of PRS S2 and one SE guitars over time. I changed out the pick ups, did the upgrades. One day, I woke up and realized that when I thought of all the money I spent buying lower grade guitars and upgrading them I could've just bought the real thing in the first place and it would've been cheaper. I sold all my S2 and SE guitars (except 1) and bought the Core guitar I actually wanted. With all the 0% financing available just about anyone can afford a premium guitar.

    • @8Seven65
      @8Seven65 Год назад +20

      Getting the guitar you really want can be inspiring. That being said, I find that I play my SE more than I play my high end guitars. It plays as well as you need it to, but you can toss it around and not worry about it.

    • @ironblast5
      @ironblast5 Год назад +2

      I'm surprised you didn't recess the backplates too

    • @adajay9257
      @adajay9257 Год назад

      @KetoSoldier I completely agree with you. I used to do the same until I realized how much more I was spending. You are correct that with right financing anyone can own a high end guitar.

    • @barry3045
      @barry3045 Год назад

      This is what I want to do.

    • @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power
      @Pure_KodiakWILD_Power Год назад +20

      Well, this fella did what he wanted for a grand 🤷‍♂️ Which I don't find cheap, either ( for a guitar ), but it's better than 5k.
      And looking at your comment again, personally I'd rather have multiple upgraded instruments ( guitars, drums, basses, etc ) that play and sound almost as good, vs. having just one high end instrument. Personally.

  • @phillipmuller6449
    @phillipmuller6449 Месяц назад

    Wow. Thanks so much. I see why you would consider a PRS Tremonti your dream guitar. I'm the same. Love that tone. And I think it's a tone you do not get from any other guitar. Never heard anything close. I play a Tremonti SE and am exactly as you considering to change the pickups, since that's a fraction of the price. So thanks so much for the video because it actually demonstratet, that the pickups seem to make up most of the sound although in direct comparison of an SE and a core unplugged, the wood seems to contribute as well. None the less, I think I'm going to try to change the pickups first. Thanks again. Great video.

  • @AlexLacorum-hf9ie
    @AlexLacorum-hf9ie 2 месяца назад

    I bought a used (brand new condition) 2023 US made PRS Mccarty 594 s2 double cut stock and paired it with my Halo double delay, EQ, chorus,metal zone, booster and noise gate and it sounds really good. The distortion is very clear and crispy and the acoustic sound angelic. I don't want the PRS core anymore and I sold my Gibson classic 2023 after I had my PRS McCarty 594 s2

  • @what1864
    @what1864 Год назад +1

    sounded exactly the same on my side . but those things can be near impossible to pick up on youtube recordings , great video ...

  • @gouvernor
    @gouvernor Год назад

    I did something similar to a PRS SE Santana Singlecut Trem. Wiring, nut, pickups, tuners, pickup rings, knobs, Mann made bridge. It was an awesome guitar. Sold it on my way to a Core model, but now I find myself wanting it back because i sold all my core stuff due to never wanting playing them to avoid damage or dings.

  • @justaguy2365
    @justaguy2365 Год назад

    Pickups and tuners are probably all you'd need. I have an SE Tremonti that has Seymore Duncan pickups, Tusq nut, and locking tuners. Its an incredible player

  • @timlaine6268
    @timlaine6268 Год назад +4

    Good upgrades, especially the tuners I think. I prefer bone or brass nuts. The PRS SE pickups are very good, but the set you installed is better for sure. Pickups are an area that someone may be able to save a few dollars. I think you have built a great guitar.

  • @Ripperx121
    @Ripperx121 8 месяцев назад

    Yes I think it sounded better with the American pickups. I just got a PRS Zach Myers. I ordered the locking tuners already. I am doing the exact same thing. Didn't think of staining the fretboard that is great. I love it. The day I buy a 5k guitar is how I get divorced! Great job man! Totally worth it.

  • @thatdrewrivers
    @thatdrewrivers Год назад

    I love how when taking off the back plate, it sounds like the Psycho theme playing :D

  • @tonechaser7174
    @tonechaser7174 Год назад

    Oh ya I noticed big time man. The old pickups just sound a little bit cheaper and less full and gritty. Thanks for showing this was amazing to watch man. I might switch my S2 pick ups out for these. They sound insane ! Hope your gig went well dude

  • @pedraw
    @pedraw Год назад +1

    I own 4 PRS SE guitars and all of them are stock. I can see doing the upgrades you did to get closer to the sound you like. I just picked up a double cut McCarty at the end of July.

    • @gooble69
      @gooble69 Год назад

      "I own 4 PRS SE guitars and all of them are stock"
      Why 4?

    • @pedraw
      @pedraw Год назад

      @@gooble69 different models

  • @phlag35
    @phlag35 20 дней назад

    Cool video and sweet upgrades. The PRS SE are (usually) very nicely built and quality neck+body so with upgrades like you did they really turn into premium instruments. I did locking tuners and tusq nut on mine, and also the lampshade knobs. Im still considering which pickups to upgrade with. I hadn't considered these but now theyre definitely on the list of options. It sounds great.

  • @treishtrei
    @treishtrei 10 месяцев назад +5

    3% improvement in listener sound quality perception. However for the player the string attack and overall confidence gained & feeling are percieved a lot better.

  • @peterschmidt9942
    @peterschmidt9942 Год назад +2

    While I'm not a PRS guy, I do have a SC PRS SE as well. They're good guitars as is for the money and I don't feel the need to upgrade it (I've got plenty of others for that). But glad you're happy with it. I thought the stain pen was an interesting concept. I'd be interested to know how much may come out again as you start to play it.

  • @TheNino37
    @TheNino37 Год назад +2

    This video was EXCELLENT! I was planning on doing this same thing. The only thing that I might also do is replace the volume/tone pots (if needed) and replace the tremolo for the Core model trem.

    • @Instrument.Identity.Disorder
      @Instrument.Identity.Disorder  Год назад +2

      Thanks! I am still thinking about changing out the pots, caps, switch and jack (because, at this point I might as well, right?)

    • @TheNino37
      @TheNino37 Год назад

      @@Instrument.Identity.Disorder if you do those mods also, we're going to need an update video!

  • @TheTumoooo
    @TheTumoooo Год назад +1

    Greetings from Finland!
    I really liked your video, I have planned a somewhat similar project for my Epiphone Les Paul custom. However, I thought I would have the work done by a luthier, because I don't trust my own skills!
    One suggestion for improvement: when comparing sounds, you could make A and B comparisons of clean and distorted sound separately. It is much better way for the listener to find differences.
    You just made me a new subscriber - I cannot wait for more content!

  • @MN_Life5
    @MN_Life5 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for the video!
    I moded a Tremonti SE and did hot rodded Seymour Duncan pick ups, Tremonti potentiometer switches from John Mann from core Tremonti ($100), knobs, hip shot locking tuners and tusq nut. I also did input jack and toggle switch (very worth while upgrade)
    I had a technician do a lot of the work and probably would skip the nut replacement next time, I had to bring it back twice and have the nut and frets tweaked for no buzzing, I think just the locking tunners would of been fine for tuning stability.
    After upgrades I have $1500 with the guitar, labor, tools and parts, but it sounds amazing and less than 1/3 of core Tremonti. Skipping the nut even though $10, was $300 in labor and tools. So could of done the whole project for $1200 being I bought the guitar used
    For $1500 I would of sold it and bought an American S2 with American electronics in hindsight

  • @ces69
    @ces69 Год назад +3

    I can definitely hear an improvement/difference but the biggest difference I can hear is an improvement in the tuning/intonation of the guitar after the upgrades which is probably more to do with your “setup” after the work!
    I’m a bit surprised though that after the upgrade you did that you didn’t upgrade the Alpha pots and bridge!
    Like you, I too enjoy upgrading cheaper guitars gaining sometimes huge improvement and other times not so much.
    The construction of cheaper instruments these days is so much better than even just a couple of decades ago with the weak link usually being the hardware and electronics, items that are easily upgraded!

    • @MrErikchaugen
      @MrErikchaugen Год назад

      I was also aware of the difference in intonation and tuning in general,but dont know if IT was puling on the strings with slightly out of tune strings making IT worse......

    • @Instrument.Identity.Disorder
      @Instrument.Identity.Disorder  Год назад

      Thanks! I'm still thinking about upgrading the pots, caps, switch and jack. I did also look at a new graphtech bridge but the SE bridge seems pretty nice.

  • @josephjulianmionie4744
    @josephjulianmionie4744 Год назад +1

    I truly appreciate your conviction and tenacity/ courage, with regards to your musical endeavors... especially doing this with a PRS of any model..... But.......
    ...in just my humble experience and opinion.... even if you were able to do everything perfectly, with respect to the list of upgrades that you had mentioned, I can assure you....
    .......without a doubt.... and beyond comparison, with regards to specifically the "Resonance, Tone, ..and ultimately that RESPONSE in Raw Harmonic Texture that essentially is clearly evident (personally speaking) with PRS's Artist LIMITED or Signature Models have.....
    ......I can Even tell the difference between the CORE models and Artist LIMITED/ Signature PRSs.....
    ...and again, in my opinion its all due the culmination of the Top materials and specific Woods that they intentionally cherry pick before they are even cut..... for this very reason...etc.
    Again... Im not trying to shit on your parade.....
    Kudos to you for doing your own thing bro....
    Ultimately... Im just relaying my experience to you.🤘😎😈
    ¶||~ Ive got a 2009 Limited Bodega Bay PRS Artist Model that I would literally guard with my life .......It literally sounds like a Choir of Arch Angels Reverberating through the distant crack of the sky through Heaven itself.......
    ...... metaphorically if course.🤘😎😈

  • @isaiahj117
    @isaiahj117 Год назад +1

    The quality control by PRS is really amazing. I like to buy used guitars, especially those have already upgrade by the previous owner. I had a PRS SE Chris Robertson with Schaller locking tuners and Schaller strap lock upgraded by the previous owner. It's a great guitar I've ever play; If upgrade the bridge pickup to the USA made tremonti pickups, it would be a very powerful sound guitar.

    • @Instrument.Identity.Disorder
      @Instrument.Identity.Disorder  Год назад +1

      I'm sure you'd love the Tremonti bridge pickup!

    • @isaiahj117
      @isaiahj117 Год назад

      @@Instrument.Identity.Disorder Hopefully PRS will upgrade the SE Tremonti guitar with locking tuners and Tremonti signature pickups.

  • @wraith2k82
    @wraith2k82 3 месяца назад

    I have an SE Custom 22 that I want to do this to. Locking tuners, put some 85/15 in will a coil tap tuning pot, and the lampshades. Have a CE24 in gray that sounds great.

  • @mnewln1800
    @mnewln1800 Год назад

    Great upgrades. Way better sound! Thank you for NOT removing the clear plastic film on camera. You made the right move!🥳

  • @localstrangeness
    @localstrangeness Год назад

    I'm surprised there aren't more subscribers...you should do a whole Franken guitar series and put side by side comparisons. I'd tune in to watch that all day.

  • @russdesaulniers3112
    @russdesaulniers3112 Год назад +2

    New SE's are supposed to come with Core nuts. Tusq is good, but that's replacing an apple with an apple.

  • @ErikStone1
    @ErikStone1 Год назад

    Great video. So many things I find interesting here. I like your shirt! I used to play in a band with John Cooper many years ago. I was hanging out with him backstage at his show a couple of years ago, and in walks Mark Tremonti. John introduced him to me, and I was on cloud 9. I'm a huge Tremonti fan. I also can't afford a $5k
    Tremonti PRS, so I may do this to an SE Tremonti. I also prefer a hardtail, but I think I would rather have the correct scale length - even though it has a tremolo. Mark based his model off the SC250 that they no longer make, but he needs the extra length so it doesn't sound floppy when detuned. Good job, man!

  • @SandalGuy1
    @SandalGuy1 9 месяцев назад

    Nice work. Really great result. Love the sound of the new pickups.
    Enjoy!

  • @Irishladd
    @Irishladd Год назад

    Wow I love the upgrade…god you have a great sound, tone everything about it is beautiful. I love my Tremoni I have the first prototype

  • @mattaguirre447
    @mattaguirre447 Год назад

    yes I would do it and I have done it and will continue to do it. sounds good Brotha. the after sound is a tremendous difference

  • @AuthenticShaneR
    @AuthenticShaneR Год назад

    My lord, what a difference. Great video and I think I will do this to my 245.

  • @Tdubya48
    @Tdubya48 Год назад

    Great job. Real close to the same sound as the core model. I love my Tremonti SE custom. I bought those locking tuners for it. I'll have to give the nut another look but I believe it it the Tusq nut. Well Done!!!

  • @MountainLionessMusic
    @MountainLionessMusic Год назад +1

    Fantastic video! Your guitar is, now, even more awesome! Looking forward to trying a project like this. Sweet Cooper stuff shirt, as well!

  • @Afurthyclays
    @Afurthyclays Год назад

    This was a great upgrade video! Did anyone else notice on the “after upgrade” section of the video, the B string wasn’t completely in the nut groove? Just an observation…. 🤷‍♂️

  • @jaypaduadesigns
    @jaypaduadesigns 10 месяцев назад

    yeah definitely I modify all my SE guitars hehe just recently got a 2007 tremonti for about $450. Excited to start upgrading stuff hehe. Nice work on the 245! The difference with the SE Tremonti is that they are using 25in scale length. I really wanted a single cut stop tail PRS SE, the Tremonti SE is perfect!

  • @arkavagoswami
    @arkavagoswami Год назад +1

    Loved the upgrade.sounding great.really great job.only 1 thing I noticed that the string gaps are not equal in graph tech nut. The 2nd n 3rd string gapping are uneven relevantly to others.

  • @drp8062
    @drp8062 Год назад +1

    I recently bought an SE Paul's Guitar from Sweetwater with the intention of getting it plekked and a new Graphtek nut installed. Although I was willing to spend extra for the nut and installation, my rep talked me out of it because he felt the PRS nut was as good if not better than the Graphtek. I went along with his suggestion thinking he must believe that to be true if he is talking me out of spending the $100 ish for nut installation. I don't know for sure which nut is better, but the neck is excellent and it plays sweet and stays in tune. I can vouch for that.

    • @Instrument.Identity.Disorder
      @Instrument.Identity.Disorder  Год назад

      My wife had an SE Paul's guitar briefly and then traded it for an SE Hollowbody II Piezo so she could also have acoustic tones. Her new one has had some tuning issues so I first changed to locking tuners. That didn't completely fix the issue so I ended up replacing the nut with a graphtech. So far so good! Did you end up getting it pleked? I've thought about that but haven't done it to any of my guitars yet.

    • @drp8062
      @drp8062 Год назад

      @@Instrument.Identity.DisorderYes on the plek. I'll never know if it actually needed it or not because I had it done before I ever played it. But I do know that it it is setup immaculately and the action is smoothe. I weighed the option of getting a less expensive guitar and paying extra for plek and setup vs. getting a more expensive guitar straight from the seller or "QC". Unfortunately core model pricing was out or reach for me so I opted for a well setup SE. This is also after spending some time with my 2021 SE 24-08, which is also very nice. PRS SE is hitting a sweet spot right now, IMO. Great quality for a mid level price. All that said, I find myself using my "straight from the seller" 24-08 a lot. It is a very nice fit for me and sometimes a less expensive guitar just feels good. I may upgrade to locking tuners someday, but, both of my PRS SE guitars play very well, stay in tune wonderfully, and I have a blast playing them. I also love my Gretsch 5420 hollowbody which is in the same price range as the SE line, but it is going to need a lot more work. Wonky switch, weird hardware buzz, pickups are meh ...

  • @brettmarlar4154
    @brettmarlar4154 Год назад +1

    Honestly, I couldn't hear much of a difference. That said, the locking tuners and nut replacement are the only justifiable upgrades for their increased tuning stability (not that the SE line has tuning stability issues) and time saving on string changes. The strap locks are also a nice touch for a practicality standpoint.
    The staining of the fretboard, definitely looked cool, but I doubt it had any real affect on the sound.

    • @tempestfury8324
      @tempestfury8324 Год назад

      Staining a fretboard has no effect on sound. The biggest difference was obviously the pickups. Locking tuners help immensely. Nut? Eh, helps a little if your strings are snagging....nothing some sandpaper and graphite can't fix.

  • @Connor_Bowles
    @Connor_Bowles 6 месяцев назад

    I've got my eye and the same guitar and plan on doing similar modifications to it so this video really scratches an itch for me 🤤

  • @brethoffman3520
    @brethoffman3520 11 месяцев назад

    Love it, sounds much better. I did this to my 24 fret Ibanez (to the bridge only). The Tremonti pick up sits a little closer to the strings than the stock pickups did...however my guitar sounds amazing and unique. I would not have it any other way. When I use the bridge pickup, my cleans actually have a little break up if I pick or strum aggressively, and when I throw on distortion it's insane. It's my favorite guitar and I'm not changing a thing. I prefer it over any PRS.

  • @jgtRock
    @jgtRock 3 месяца назад

    I also made some upgrades on my PSR SE 24 CE. Thanks for the video! I watched it before

  • @McCoorsTV
    @McCoorsTV Год назад +1

    I immediately put lock in tuners on my SE and found a great price on some dragon 2 pickups, I cannot tell the difference.

    • @Instrument.Identity.Disorder
      @Instrument.Identity.Disorder  Год назад

      The main thing I love about locking tuners is it makes string changes so quick and easy. I do think they help some with tuning stability but mostly that comes from a good nut that's filed properly for the string guage.

  • @dommyvsguitarcorner6315
    @dommyvsguitarcorner6315 Год назад

    All I might recommend is actually changing to the correct pots and capacitors on it.
    I definitely hear a definitive difference between the pickups though.

  • @steveeckert8396
    @steveeckert8396 Год назад +1

    Do you know if PRS uses the same Trem Blocks/block material on their Core and SE? I have a '92 Strat that was a dog. I replaced the Lace Sensors with 57/62 that really helped. When I replaced the stock trem bloc with a bell steel bloc the guitar really came alive.

    • @bradleyclosson5042
      @bradleyclosson5042 Год назад

      People always overlook that. Quality saddles, blocks, even bridge tail pieces make a significant improvement in tone.

    • @steveeckert8396
      @steveeckert8396 Год назад +1

      @@bradleyclosson5042 It was jaw dropping the difference the Callaham bloc made. To your point of bridge/tail piece. I installed a FaberUS Bridge, tailpiece, studs in my Epi Custom. Acoustically it sounds like a Murphy Lab R8 and yes I swapped pups. If a guitar has the fit and finish everything else can be fixed.

  • @belladosemusic3178
    @belladosemusic3178 Год назад

    Very cool. Awesome job. Picks up were night and day.

  • @toneydavis9802
    @toneydavis9802 Год назад

    I put lockers on my SE 35th and swapped pups for Vaughan Skow pickups. Played, sounded great. Just put the original pups back. Still sounds great but a little fatter which I am liking right now. You may find you will want to put the original pickups back just to get a different tone again. Beauty of the PRS SE is it is great stock or upgraded. Like the theme of your channel. I also like all things music..

  • @robertwillett4122
    @robertwillett4122 Год назад +1

    I love P.R.S.
    Been playing now over 4 decades. I've played just about everything. I'm playing a S.E. and I'm not going to change a thing. Great guitar.

  • @PetesGuitar2303
    @PetesGuitar2303 Год назад

    Massive difference, those Tremonti pups are awesome,great job

  • @ihop4no14
    @ihop4no14 3 месяца назад

    Nice job!
    By the way, your list shows the link to the tuners TWICE. The link for the nut is actually the locking tuners.

  • @qwasz123123
    @qwasz123123 Год назад

    Nice job. That old nut sounded like Tusq when it hit the floor.

  • @NerdInTangelo
    @NerdInTangelo Год назад

    I'd sand off all the harden glue from the nut slot before installing new one. The gap between the nut and the fretboard may affect the intonation.

  • @fmh357
    @fmh357 Год назад

    Definite difference in the sound. Ya done good.

  • @davidwprince
    @davidwprince 5 месяцев назад

    Great job! I actually own a Tremonti Core model and this same PRS SE guitar you upgraded. I think I may do the same with it. The only difference I’ll probably notice is the Tremonti has a 25” neck scale and the 245 is roughly 24 1/2” so I will probably notice a difference on string tension but other than that it’ll be worth it.

  • @KDelta1986
    @KDelta1986 Год назад

    cooper stuff!!! I just picked up the Tremonti SE. Seth from Skillet plays a Tremonti also.

  • @oriontackett7643
    @oriontackett7643 6 месяцев назад

    Nice! It looks great. I'm surprised at how well the neck stained

  • @MisterTee
    @MisterTee Год назад

    I upgraded an SE Custom 24 Floyd. Added a brass block, Pariah pickups, a US Tone Pot, and lampshade knobs. It’s a great guitar and cost me less than 1200