@@horrorbelicoNa if we really get down to the nitty gritty of it, Kid Goku from 22nd budokai tournament solos JJK since at that point he had ftl speed feats along with mountain - moon lvl ap The most u can argue for Gojo is plannetary with chain reaction 😂 but that's if he releases all his energy and more but he scales City lvl to country lvl with hyper sonic to ftl speed at a high ball So he getting smoked by kid Goku and 100% by 18yr old Goku cuz being faster than Gojo perception means u bypass Infinity 😂
@user-ho3uu4sn4p well at least you agree. I may not be the biggest jjk fan as when I watched the entire two seasons with the mini movie, it still felt that it wasn't for me and I felt it was a bit overhyped but thats just my opinion and its still cool that most people enjoy it. I just feel with some people they be over glazing gojo's abilities to the point where its very delusional
So basically if we homeostasis the harmonica we can emulatet thr amulet the hugs the viper in the car BUT if you where to ,oh I don't know, condensation the humidity of money in you left eye and leg will expand. It'd not that hard
The really funny thing is, even if you decided that Goku couldn't make it through infinity (which is utter nonsense.), he would still win this fight with ease. Non of Gojo's attacks are a threat to Goku. Even Hollow Purple would be casually shrugged off. But lets pretend like Gojo's attacks would actually hurt Goku. Goku is MASSIVELY faster. Gojo's attacks would never land. Let take it a step further and say that Gojo's domain would actually work against Goku. Its canon that Domains can be broken from either the inside or outside (though its harder to break from within.). So, taking Goku's MASSIVE speed advantage, and the fact that he could have an eye twitch that would solo the entire verse, he would easily be able to break out of the domain well before it became a threat. But lets ignore even that, and say that Gojo's domain is unbreakable. It took, as I recall, it was stated that it would take 1/10 of a second for a human to die from infinite void's effect (which also proves that it being infinite information is hyperbolic.). Goku's mind is capable of perceiving information exponentially faster than a normal human. Lets massively low ball it and say that Goku is capable of perceiving information 1 million times faster than a normal human (again, this is massively low balling, considering that he is capable of functioning at massively faster than light speeds.). This means it would take 1 day and 3 hours before infinite void was a threat to Goku. But lets ignore EVEN THAT, and say that the instant infinite void starts up, it puts Goku into a vegetative state. Goku has been training to bypass the need to think about his martial arts, since his training with Popo, when he was a teenager, back in original Dragon Ball. So even if Goku's mind is completely blanked, Gojo is still not going to be able to touch Goku, because his body is going to be automatically fighting back. Also, jumping all the way back to that first point of Goku not being able to make it through infinity, it still wouldn't matter. Though Gojo does use techniques like blue, red, and purple, he also fights with martial arts. This is a problem for him. Goku is a martial arts genius (frankly, his martial arts is some of the best in fiction.). He is going to pick up on the fact that he can't make contact with Gojo very quickly. He is also going to pick up on the fact that Gojo can make contact with him very quickly. At this point its over. The moment Gojo makes contact with Goku, it means that infinity is bypassed, at which point Goku would retaliate against that part of Gojo that made contact (such as if he lands a punch on Goku, Goku will at minimum send a pulse of ki through Gojo's fist at the point of contact.), which Gojo will not survive. There really is no reasonable way for Gojo to stand a chance here.
@@Chris_HT You could even argue Kid Goku as well, considering that one of the earliest feats in Dragon Ball was him punching Yamcha so hard that he slammed into the manga panel and shattered it. But again, that is debatable.
@@ikeillue8385 Even without that feat we have DB Roshi just blowing the moon up, you can make an argument for the Goku in the Goku vs Demon King Piccolo fight winning. 1. Kid Goku was atleast Relativistic in speeds during OGDB (Refer to dodging lightning, being so fast he outran solar flare, being so fast he literally went invisible against Krillin 2. Obvious AP and Dura advantage (DKP was destroying counties for fun lmao) 3. Martial arts are equal if not better than Gojos Gojos wincons against Post-DKP fight Kid Goku are non-physical techniques like Purple, Blue, and his Domain.
@@Chris_HT I don't disagree with any of that. The issue is, Goku still needs to find a way to bypass infinity. Adult Goku obviously does so without question, with shear power. But its a bit harder to argue for Kid Goku. That said, as you pointed out, even kid Goku is MASSIVELY faster, and MASSIVELY stronger, in addition to the fact that he is a martial arts genius. That last part is the important point, which is why I think that even kid Goku would win a fight against Gojo, even if he can't actually bypass infinity. Essentially, Gojo can choose to shut off infinity so that he can make contact with the opponent, which he does when he throws punches and kicks. Due to Goku's speed and power advantage, that instant when Gojo makes contact with Goku its over. Even if it is just through the contact made by a fist, Goku could throw ki through that contact point, bypassing infinity entirely (since contact is already made), best case scenario shattering Gojo's arm, worst case scenario that shockwave would eradicate him entirely (which I don't think there is any question that even kid Goku's power would completely obliterate anything in Jujutsu Kaisen.).
@@ikeillue8385 Kid Goku would unironically solo all if not everyone but Sukuna and Gojo. I say Kid Goku could win for the reason that Gojo would definetly go close at some point and underestimate Kid Goku, turning off infinity and end up either getting one shot or massively hurt to the point Six Eyes would get worn away. And saying Sukuna could best Kid Goku in power is a big assumption, he easily blitzes. Gojo just doesnt stand a chance unless he times a purple and land it. ^or uses purple nuke
shit I forgot he had that.. please do remind me what saga, I want to learn more and i believe you because goku has stared at something hard enough to damage it before but i forgot where
@@lolbit1545 Namek, Moro, and Granola is where he uses it in the manga. The only time I remember him using it in movies is in Dragon Ball Super: Broly.
@@thedarknessinthelight9824ya he definitely used it in the namek saga in the anime. When he first arrived on the planet and saved krillin, Gohan and Vegeta from the Ginyu force, once he healed them with the sensu beans he placed his hand on krillin ahead and read his mind to find out everything that went through up to that point.
Heres the thing. Consider the scene where goku heals a dead bird in Cooler's Revenge, this implies that all of the Z fighters ki based abilities are the opposite of cursed energy. Even if that movie isn't canon, that still implies the characters of DBZ can still use Ki for healing, meaning ki is still positive energy. If you want to dismiss this feat since the movies arent canon, we have more uses of it in the canon series; from the namek saga of dende healing the crew, to DBS where goku heals Master Roshi. With all that said, we've seen Satoru in JJK use the reversed curse technique (curse energy multiplied within itself to create positive energy) to survive Sukuna's malevolent shrine. This would mean that since Ki is based on positive life energy all of Goku's, along with the rest of the Z fighters, techniques would work in a Domain Expansion going by the logic of both power systems. Goku rinses all of JJK
vegeta father destroyed multiple planets with a single move effortlessly the db verse is already broken jjk would be extinguished from existence to say the least
Perfect Video Analysis. Goku can move at such reality breaking speed in his base form. We all knew he was massively faster than light speed, but fans were unsure if Goku could move at the immeasurable speed and the infinite speed that you spoke on. In Dragon Ball super we see base form Goku speed Blitzen and matching the speed of golden Frieza. It means Goku is able to turn on his maximum speed, or close to his maximum speed in his base form. Any transformation stacked on top of that elevate his power level to unfathomable degrees. There are a lot of haters of dragon ball, who argue out of frustration and emotion instead of intelligence logic and reasoning. Well done I’m very proud. Just subscribed, notifications bell on!!!
Yes... Domains do have sure hit... But goku is just so much stronger than gojo... Gojo couldn't do shit even though Goku is stunned. I mean, if Sukuna, an island level guy was able to survive hollow purple two times, and once even in almost point blank range, then that shit would just bounce off of Goku
@@TooBeefy These beyond infinite scaling a have been a thing since the fucking 90s with chars like Dr strange fighting boxing a living alternative universe.... Sure.... Mocked
You’re correct about everything besides raditz not being able to destroy a planet he definitely can the easily destroy moons yes it not a planet but with no effort you can make the argument with max effort they can
@@OyinkansolaAgboola Thats common knowledge, the best feat was a shared Planet level feat from Mark, Omniman, and Allen. But the feat doesnt make either one of them planetary at all since: 1. The Planet was literally weakened 2. Its shared across 3 people. 3. They said if they did it even a slight bit incorrectly than they'd all die (Below Planet level Dura) 4. They built up speed+power for it. Raditz could clear all the top tiers in Invincible, he just isnt gonna do well in terms of Speed, Stamina (and possibly) Skill/Experience.
Well the infinity argument is just stupid, first off infinity can’t block (according to the manga) sub-atomic ability’s, which means gojo loses to nukes because radiation is sub-atomic which means infinity doesn’t work, same thing with ki- ki is sub-atomic therefore goku slams this fraud
This debate is literally a Coughing Baby vs the Big Bang lol Also infinity doesn't even stop anything Gojo can't comprehend as he has to manually determine what can and can't go through infinity by measuring its mass, speed, etc aka he needs to perceive information about the target. Also even if you don't wanna give Goku infinite or immeasurable speed, bro is still able to be calculated to move quintillions of times faster than light ( *IN BASE* 😭) just based on how much he's grown since being a child.
Literally Gojo's infinity does not work against Mutiverse or above character because There is characters they can destroy infinite space-time or universes/Dimensions.
6:50 well said bro, but one quick clear-up, this doesnt apply to literal abilities. Such as Janemba's Reality Manipulation, Hit's Timeskip, or Garlic Jr's Deadzone, because they are condensing or whatever with their Ki, that may not be fluctuated with simply their power level if that makes sense. However, Gotenks screaming a hole in a dimension is a raw feat, so Goku would be able to do that (Space-Time Manipulation or Dimensional Manipulation of some sort)
Since when was Hakai 5D 😂, that sht was 7D at the heaviest low ball and I'm saying low ball cuz it's conceptual erasure followed by being able to effect beings that hav OUTERVERSAL STATEMENTS 😂 So not hating jus asking 5D? I think not 7D bare minimum and that's a heavy low ball since that's base Goku's lvl post battle of gods and he gets infinitely stronger 😂
And base Goku got millions of times much stronger in the tournament of power, before it reached it's climax base Goku was tanking Jiren's blows and he even stated how he has never been hit that hard before. Dragonball characters are some of the most underrated when it comes to power and durability
People sometimes forget that goku broke hit's time skip technique. Which is literally time and space. Meaning that goku can bypass infinity. And plus goku is immune to mind control so gojos domain wont work. If youre expecting that hollow purple can oneshot goku, then how tf did sukuna tank that? That attack literally only scales to large city level, plus gokus durability is insane (sorry if my English is bad. Its not my native language)
Goku csn straight ip tank infinite void Ki is made of mind body and spirit goku mind is so strong that a lot informatiom cant do anything and Gojos infinite void cant give infinite information because it was confirmed that 0.2 second of gojos domain results in 6 months of information which means the cap is finite because gojo cant use his domain for too long And goku can also bypass infinity with his irrelevent speed
Gojo hasn't shown anything Beyond Universal and Goku is beyond that. You could argue even Frieza is Universal in DBZ Lol he's not even winning giving him the most amount of Charity Also I heard something that says Goku was saying "Granolas IT is faster than my IT" but granola uses it mid combat he can use that instant speed mid combat casually yet when Goku Gets stronger through transformation he can't just spam that technique? Lol so Infinite speed.
Suppose, if at all you think that goku cant bypass infinity, cant hit him. Then same for gojo, he lacks the speed, durtability, experirnce by tons alone & loses negitive differce. He cant connect to Goku at all, even his hollow purple will be dodged by goku with ease. & if he was trapped in the domain, he can easily counter it before it gets activated. This will be one sided battle.
Bro Gojo solossss Is what someone stupid would say. Goku faced gods and he wasn't even in his strongest form he could take on Moro who's wayy stronger than him AND EVEN WITHOUT UI HE'D SOLO STILL BASE IS ENOUGH DON'T GET ME STARTED WITH CC GOKU XENO GOKU AND KAKUMEI GOKU!!! Goku. SOLOSSS
why goku even transforming he dont need too. now i came back to this due to the power level discussion yes most of that is true although there's older iterations show ppl of like 260 destroying moons although just a few showcased this so i wanna say raditz had a good chance to destroy earth and do so by himself
The syrongest thing in gojo is his hax , which is only infinite 3D or high universal. Goku in dbz did traversing all of afterlife in base which is stated to be infinite in size a d also large as the living world , living world has been stated in daizenshuu 4 page 72 to be Infinite + jaco said that in the living universe their is countless amont of galaxies , which gives base z goku easly infinite speed and able to bypass gojo's infinity in only base , and killing gojo in one shot. Base z goku > jjk , and not close at all.
You’re correct about everything besides raditz not being able to destroy a planet he definitely can the easily destroy moons yes it not a planet but with no effort you can make the argument with max effort they can we see king vegeta easily destroy multiple planets with one swoop of his hand
Homie, yeah when he traveled across hell. That was a infinite distant feat That before super saiyan Goku is Trillions of times slower than current Goku.
I personally dont think the hit feat gives goku immeasurable speed since in db if you are stronger than someone their hax dont work on you but you can say that goku moving after zeno destroyed the future trunks timeline there is no time nor space breaking the speed formula giving goku immeasurable speed
I prefer the rule energy is energy with anime fights. for example Ki = charkra or Ki = cursed energy. If someone can control Ki it functions the same as someone controlling cursed energy. Just my perference
Goku in dbz crossed infinite distences like afterlife in base , gojo's infinite void won't stope base current goku who is FAR STRONGER than z goku , so Z base goku one shots gojo.
If we really want to be stupid, Goku moved in a location that existed out of space and time and thus is infinitely fast. Even if not, Goku is obliterating Gojo before he even crosses his fingers
@@TheMercilessManureConsumer I like Goku bro I know he wins. It’s just being infinite speed is impossible. The only person who is infinitely fast is the guy on namek who can pause time
Ya but then he raises his power level when vegeta tells him to calm down and get serious. That’s when nappa started to give goku a good fight but then goku used kai oh ken and it was over.
He didn't explain it in it's simplest form, so I'll do it Think of it like this if we assume Gojo infinity is true infinity then it's a lower lvl of infinity than Goku's movements allowing Goku to bypass Gojo infinity But here's where the problem arises, this mf Goku has higher dimensional more specifically 7D infinite speed to irrelevant speed in BASE, meaning no matter how great or absolute Gojo infinity is it wouldn't exist for Goku cuz he's working on a higher dimensional speed 😂, and that's why I find this debate stupid cuz most know wat infinite speed is but don't know how it Truely works, Goku's infinite speed isn't the same as Whis infinite speed cuz whis can travel to higher dimensions than the entire multiverse in finite time however Goku in base cannot do that though he still has infinite speed his dimensionally lower Goku infinite speed - 7D+ Whis infinite speed - 10D+ And jus like how to a finite 4D being Infinite 3D beings would be finite or infinitely lower the same is true for speed, aswell as strength and any other attribute 😂 Hope this helps people understand a little better as to why "Goku Solos" isn't just a meme it's actually 99.9999999% factual 😂
@@EnoYaka or when vegeta punched through hakai which is conceptual, beerus negate the shockwaves that were gonna obliterate the infinite universe with absolute ease. Zamasu also have a ability called the barrier of light which eliminates any attacks coming towards him as well as striking opponents by firing and later on we casually see goku continuing to be able to damage him. We see vegeta negating babidi’s mind control with sheer force. The gang tried to wish goku to come back and wished for the d balls to have the androids killed but they couldnt do that due to the androids being superior to them in strength and goku being superior to porunga’s strength and the dragons were stated to grant any wish but saiyans casually negating all those wishes due to being superior in terms of strength. Not only we see vegito got turned into a candy and body buu but later we see vegito over power’s buu durability negation. We also see goku shattering through hits pocket dimension of space and time. And theres more but thats just it for now.
Remember kids, dragon ball fights are literally slowed down so viewers can see what’s going on
Lmfao true
Finally U Realized
Btw One More Fact
Dragon Ball Heroes Survived Beats Existance Which Makes The Verse Boundless
Yeah like how 5minutes on namek are 160minutes by our view(8 episodes)
They've been doing that since the very first tournament in Dragon Ball too
Goku slams the fraud
He’s not a fruad so some respect to go Jo
@@cazhunsley6503😂na I saw wat u did there
@@cazhunsley6503can’t even spell fraud😂😂😂🙏🙏
Absolute facts
@@AgentMidasFn unfortunately he didn't
Fraud is spelt as such
Not fruad
Goku vs Gojo like a ''hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby who wins'' vibe's
goku saiyan saga stomps the jjk verse in 1 second
@@horrorbelico I'd like to say that base goku in the frieza saga right before fighting frieza solos
@@horrorbelico that's overkill
More like dropping a 10th dimensional Nuke on an Ant 💀
@@horrorbelicoNa if we really get down to the nitty gritty of it, Kid Goku from 22nd budokai tournament solos JJK since at that point he had ftl speed feats along with mountain - moon lvl ap
The most u can argue for Gojo is plannetary with chain reaction 😂 but that's if he releases all his energy and more but he scales City lvl to country lvl with hyper sonic to ftl speed at a high ball
So he getting smoked by kid Goku and 100% by 18yr old Goku cuz being faster than Gojo perception means u bypass Infinity 😂
Thank you. This does really need to be said cause I swear jkk fans are delusional whenever they think gojo can beat goku
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Man I am a gojo GLAZER but i don’t know how anyone can say he beats even krillin.. the difference in scaling between the verses is so ridiculous
@user-ho3uu4sn4p well at least you agree. I may not be the biggest jjk fan as when I watched the entire two seasons with the mini movie, it still felt that it wasn't for me and I felt it was a bit overhyped but thats just my opinion and its still cool that most people enjoy it. I just feel with some people they be over glazing gojo's abilities to the point where its very delusional
mate im a jjk fan but im not delusional ahahah i know gojo was 0 chance against Goko
how is this a debate
So basically if we homeostasis the harmonica we can emulatet thr amulet the hugs the viper in the car BUT if you where to ,oh I don't know, condensation the humidity of money in you left eye and leg will expand.
It'd not that hard
@@bowlface yes
@@bowlface I guess
The really funny thing is, even if you decided that Goku couldn't make it through infinity (which is utter nonsense.), he would still win this fight with ease. Non of Gojo's attacks are a threat to Goku. Even Hollow Purple would be casually shrugged off.
But lets pretend like Gojo's attacks would actually hurt Goku. Goku is MASSIVELY faster. Gojo's attacks would never land.
Let take it a step further and say that Gojo's domain would actually work against Goku. Its canon that Domains can be broken from either the inside or outside (though its harder to break from within.). So, taking Goku's MASSIVE speed advantage, and the fact that he could have an eye twitch that would solo the entire verse, he would easily be able to break out of the domain well before it became a threat.
But lets ignore even that, and say that Gojo's domain is unbreakable. It took, as I recall, it was stated that it would take 1/10 of a second for a human to die from infinite void's effect (which also proves that it being infinite information is hyperbolic.). Goku's mind is capable of perceiving information exponentially faster than a normal human. Lets massively low ball it and say that Goku is capable of perceiving information 1 million times faster than a normal human (again, this is massively low balling, considering that he is capable of functioning at massively faster than light speeds.). This means it would take 1 day and 3 hours before infinite void was a threat to Goku.
But lets ignore EVEN THAT, and say that the instant infinite void starts up, it puts Goku into a vegetative state. Goku has been training to bypass the need to think about his martial arts, since his training with Popo, when he was a teenager, back in original Dragon Ball. So even if Goku's mind is completely blanked, Gojo is still not going to be able to touch Goku, because his body is going to be automatically fighting back.
Also, jumping all the way back to that first point of Goku not being able to make it through infinity, it still wouldn't matter. Though Gojo does use techniques like blue, red, and purple, he also fights with martial arts. This is a problem for him. Goku is a martial arts genius (frankly, his martial arts is some of the best in fiction.). He is going to pick up on the fact that he can't make contact with Gojo very quickly. He is also going to pick up on the fact that Gojo can make contact with him very quickly. At this point its over. The moment Gojo makes contact with Goku, it means that infinity is bypassed, at which point Goku would retaliate against that part of Gojo that made contact (such as if he lands a punch on Goku, Goku will at minimum send a pulse of ki through Gojo's fist at the point of contact.), which Gojo will not survive.
There really is no reasonable way for Gojo to stand a chance here.
Pretty sure Gokus energy levels alone would shatter the barrier of the domain, no matter what saga you take (besides kid goku)
@@Chris_HT You could even argue Kid Goku as well, considering that one of the earliest feats in Dragon Ball was him punching Yamcha so hard that he slammed into the manga panel and shattered it. But again, that is debatable.
@@ikeillue8385 Even without that feat we have DB Roshi just blowing the moon up, you can make an argument for the Goku in the Goku vs Demon King Piccolo fight winning.
1. Kid Goku was atleast Relativistic in speeds during OGDB (Refer to dodging lightning, being so fast he outran solar flare, being so fast he literally went invisible against Krillin
2. Obvious AP and Dura advantage (DKP was destroying counties for fun lmao)
3. Martial arts are equal if not better than Gojos
Gojos wincons against Post-DKP fight Kid Goku are non-physical techniques like Purple, Blue, and his Domain.
@@Chris_HT I don't disagree with any of that. The issue is, Goku still needs to find a way to bypass infinity. Adult Goku obviously does so without question, with shear power. But its a bit harder to argue for Kid Goku.
That said, as you pointed out, even kid Goku is MASSIVELY faster, and MASSIVELY stronger, in addition to the fact that he is a martial arts genius. That last part is the important point, which is why I think that even kid Goku would win a fight against Gojo, even if he can't actually bypass infinity. Essentially, Gojo can choose to shut off infinity so that he can make contact with the opponent, which he does when he throws punches and kicks. Due to Goku's speed and power advantage, that instant when Gojo makes contact with Goku its over. Even if it is just through the contact made by a fist, Goku could throw ki through that contact point, bypassing infinity entirely (since contact is already made), best case scenario shattering Gojo's arm, worst case scenario that shockwave would eradicate him entirely (which I don't think there is any question that even kid Goku's power would completely obliterate anything in Jujutsu Kaisen.).
@@ikeillue8385 Kid Goku would unironically solo all if not everyone but Sukuna and Gojo.
I say Kid Goku could win for the reason that Gojo would definetly go close at some point and underestimate Kid Goku, turning off infinity and end up either getting one shot or massively hurt to the point Six Eyes would get worn away.
And saying Sukuna could best Kid Goku in power is a big assumption, he easily blitzes.
Gojo just doesnt stand a chance unless he times a purple and land it.
^or uses purple nuke
Goku vs Gojo is the Definition of a Grenade against The Big Bang
City level fodder vs multi+ level
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goku demolishes the verse
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This is ALL without even referencing the fact that Goku has telekinesis...
shit I forgot he had that.. please do remind me what saga, I want to learn more and i believe you because goku has stared at something hard enough to damage it before but i forgot where
@@lolbit1545 Namek, Moro, and Granola is where he uses it in the manga.
The only time I remember him using it in movies is in Dragon Ball Super: Broly.
@@thedarknessinthelight9824ya he definitely used it in the namek saga in the anime. When he first arrived on the planet and saved krillin, Gohan and Vegeta from the Ginyu force, once he healed them with the sensu beans he placed his hand on krillin ahead and read his mind to find out everything that went through up to that point.
Holy shit the Gojo fans are the worst
congrats on 200 subs divine keep going gonna hit the 1000 one day.
gojo can’t even damage goku he funna punch goku and his hand gonna break
hax can be overpowered by db chars. Goku likely powers up and breaks gojos domain basically instantly
It won't even work
Dimensionality of goku is So much higher that it's not a fair fight
Heres the thing. Consider the scene where goku heals a dead bird in Cooler's Revenge, this implies that all of the Z fighters ki based abilities are the opposite of cursed energy. Even if that movie isn't canon, that still implies the characters of DBZ can still use Ki for healing, meaning ki is still positive energy. If you want to dismiss this feat since the movies arent canon, we have more uses of it in the canon series; from the namek saga of dende healing the crew, to DBS where goku heals Master Roshi. With all that said, we've seen Satoru in JJK use the reversed curse technique (curse energy multiplied within itself to create positive energy) to survive Sukuna's malevolent shrine. This would mean that since Ki is based on positive life energy all of Goku's, along with the rest of the Z fighters, techniques would work in a Domain Expansion going by the logic of both power systems. Goku rinses all of JJK
vegeta father destroyed multiple planets with a single move effortlessly the db verse is already broken jjk would be extinguished from existence to say the least
Goku revived himself with ki in Super after hit got to the bag
I hate the argument people use when they lose the debate they say"uhhhh actually thats filler🤓☝️"its a coping mechanism.
Bro thinks a kit-Kat can contend with a Nuke 💀
Goku slams give jjk fan
@@ojobunmi7249 that's what I said
Facts bro i agree with you such a great breakdown...
always wondered why people never ask "if sukuna beat him why wouldnt goku be able too?"
Goku snaps his neck before he could even move to make any attacks.
Great vid.
Perfect Video Analysis. Goku can move at such reality breaking speed in his base form. We all knew he was massively faster than light speed, but fans were unsure if Goku could move at the immeasurable speed and the infinite speed that you spoke on. In Dragon Ball super we see base form Goku speed Blitzen and matching the speed of golden Frieza. It means Goku is able to turn on his maximum speed, or close to his maximum speed in his base form. Any transformation stacked on top of that elevate his power level to unfathomable degrees.
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Yes... Domains do have sure hit... But goku is just so much stronger than gojo... Gojo couldn't do shit even though Goku is stunned. I mean, if Sukuna, an island level guy was able to survive hollow purple two times, and once even in almost point blank range, then that shit would just bounce off of Goku
How is this even a debate Boyz.
Our boy is built different.
Ong and even is Goku couldn't get passed infinity which if you watch the video, he can but if he couldn't Gojo can't live without a planet....
Man, powerscaling/vsbattles really went off a cliff... We used to mock this sort of suggsverse "beyond infinite!" nonsense, not triple down on it.
byond infinite scaling was never mocked...
@@yspy_1801 Yes it was, NLF has been a thing for decades.
@@TooBeefy These beyond infinite scaling a have been a thing since the fucking 90s with chars like Dr strange fighting boxing a living alternative universe....
Sure.... Mocked
People be forgetting that even base Gt Goku as a kid could beat the shit out of Gojo
Gojo would get a few good hits in - ONLY because Goku really likes to fight
You’re correct about everything besides raditz not being able to destroy a planet he definitely can the easily destroy moons yes it not a planet but with no effort you can make the argument with max effort they can
Roshi could destroy the moon with a power level below 1000 im sure Raditz could destroy a small-medium sized planet
@@Chris_HTTrue
@@Chris_HTWhen you think about it, Raditz could face off against the top tiers in invincible
@@OyinkansolaAgboola Thats common knowledge, the best feat was a shared Planet level feat from Mark, Omniman, and Allen.
But the feat doesnt make either one of them planetary at all since:
1. The Planet was literally weakened
2. Its shared across 3 people.
3. They said if they did it even a slight bit incorrectly than they'd all die (Below Planet level Dura)
4. They built up speed+power for it.
Raditz could clear all the top tiers in Invincible, he just isnt gonna do well in terms of Speed, Stamina (and possibly) Skill/Experience.
Well the infinity argument is just stupid, first off infinity can’t block (according to the manga) sub-atomic ability’s, which means gojo loses to nukes because radiation is sub-atomic which means infinity doesn’t work, same thing with ki- ki is sub-atomic therefore goku slams this fraud
Besides the technique of the angels will help a lot with the curse energy
Goku vs gojo is straight up just
Coughing baby vs Big Bang
Also in top mui goku filled whole empty infinite dimension with his kii and then shook it
This debate is literally a Coughing Baby vs the Big Bang lol
Also infinity doesn't even stop anything Gojo can't comprehend as he has to manually determine what can and can't go through infinity by measuring its mass, speed, etc aka he needs to perceive information about the target.
Also even if you don't wanna give Goku infinite or immeasurable speed, bro is still able to be calculated to move quintillions of times faster than light ( *IN BASE* 😭) just based on how much he's grown since being a child.
Literally Gojo's infinity does not work against Mutiverse or above character because There is characters they can destroy infinite space-time or universes/Dimensions.
Domain expansion: tournament of power
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I am not even watching the video. I just came here to comment that Goku will one-shot Gojo to finish. Not even a shot, maybe a glare is enough.
6:50 well said bro, but one quick clear-up, this doesnt apply to literal abilities. Such as Janemba's Reality Manipulation, Hit's Timeskip, or Garlic Jr's Deadzone, because they are condensing or whatever with their Ki, that may not be fluctuated with simply their power level if that makes sense. However, Gotenks screaming a hole in a dimension is a raw feat, so Goku would be able to do that (Space-Time Manipulation or Dimensional Manipulation of some sort)
Since when was Hakai 5D 😂, that sht was 7D at the heaviest low ball and I'm saying low ball cuz it's conceptual erasure followed by being able to effect beings that hav OUTERVERSAL STATEMENTS 😂
So not hating jus asking 5D?
I think not 7D bare minimum and that's a heavy low ball since that's base Goku's lvl post battle of gods and he gets infinitely stronger 😂
And base Goku got millions of times much stronger in the tournament of power, before it reached it's climax base Goku was tanking Jiren's blows and he even stated how he has never been hit that hard before. Dragonball characters are some of the most underrated when it comes to power and durability
People sometimes forget that goku broke hit's time skip technique. Which is literally time and space. Meaning that goku can bypass infinity. And plus goku is immune to mind control so gojos domain wont work. If youre expecting that hollow purple can oneshot goku, then how tf did sukuna tank that? That attack literally only scales to large city level, plus gokus durability is insane (sorry if my English is bad. Its not my native language)
I swear the VS community is not for everyone and we need to stop being nice to ppl and making them think they are actually saying something lol
Goku csn straight ip tank infinite void
Ki is made of mind body and spirit goku mind is so strong that a lot informatiom cant do anything and Gojos infinite void cant give infinite information because it was confirmed that 0.2 second of gojos domain results in 6 months of information which means the cap is finite because gojo cant use his domain for too long
And goku can also bypass infinity with his irrelevent speed
Gojo hasn't shown anything Beyond Universal and Goku is beyond that. You could argue even Frieza is Universal in DBZ
Lol he's not even winning giving him the most amount of Charity
Also I heard something that says Goku was saying "Granolas IT is faster than my IT" but granola uses it mid combat he can use that instant speed mid combat casually yet when Goku Gets stronger through transformation he can't just spam that technique? Lol so Infinite speed.
Suppose, if at all you think that goku cant bypass infinity, cant hit him. Then same for gojo, he lacks the speed, durtability, experirnce by tons alone & loses negitive differce. He cant connect to Goku at all, even his hollow purple will be dodged by goku with ease. & if he was trapped in the domain, he can easily counter it before it gets activated. This will be one sided battle.
Bro is spitting facts throughout the video😎😎
Why would goku need to scream to break infinity? Wouldn’t him just screaming in general bypass its filter??????
Bro Gojo solossss
Is what someone stupid would say. Goku faced gods and he wasn't even in his strongest form he could take on Moro who's wayy stronger than him AND EVEN WITHOUT UI HE'D SOLO STILL BASE IS ENOUGH DON'T GET ME STARTED WITH CC GOKU XENO GOKU AND KAKUMEI GOKU!!! Goku. SOLOSSS
This argue ment is like putting a new born dog against a whole bear who's winning? Besides base cabba solos
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why goku even transforming he dont need too. now i came back to this due to the power level discussion yes most of that is true although there's older iterations show ppl of like 260 destroying moons although just a few showcased this so i wanna say raditz had a good chance to destroy earth and do so by himself
The syrongest thing in gojo is his hax , which is only infinite 3D or high universal. Goku in dbz did traversing all of afterlife in base which is stated to be infinite in size a d also large as the living world , living world has been stated in daizenshuu 4 page 72 to be Infinite + jaco said that in the living universe their is countless amont of galaxies , which gives base z goku easly infinite speed and able to bypass gojo's infinity in only base , and killing gojo in one shot.
Base z goku > jjk , and not close at all.
You’re correct about everything besides raditz not being able to destroy a planet he definitely can the easily destroy moons yes it not a planet but with no effort you can make the argument with max effort they can we see king vegeta easily destroy multiple planets with one swoop of his hand
goku vs gojo
more like the sun vs a singular clay pebble
Homie, yeah when he traveled across hell. That was a infinite distant feat
That before super saiyan Goku is Trillions of times slower than current Goku.
I personally dont think the hit feat gives goku immeasurable speed since in db if you are stronger than someone their hax dont work on you but you can say that goku moving after zeno destroyed the future trunks timeline there is no time nor space breaking the speed formula giving goku immeasurable speed
Thsi is also ignoring the fact that goku has telekinesis, could teleport and him just raising his ki could vaporize Gojo
garlic jr is enough
It doesn't make sense gojo will lose Because Saitama do the same thing
Idk ki also is solid sometimes too
I prefer the rule energy is energy with anime fights. for example Ki = charkra or Ki = cursed energy. If someone can control Ki it functions the same as someone controlling cursed energy. Just my perference
Mfs will say Goku can't bypass the infinity.
Nigga, Goku literally shook the Void which is the infinite nothingness.
Pui Pui slaps Gojo verse
I guess JJK ain’t in your vocabulary😂😂
Goku has people with blatantly better abilities than Gojo and beat them
another thing is goku brok a dimension (hits dimension) when vados paid hit to kill goku in the anime.
Gojo can't b3at Deku and All might
Lol he can I could too Base kid goku solos😊
@@Deezwallz-p9c Lol
Why is this a debate?
How is this even a debate 💀
This is cool and all
But charmander solo goku
How are pll finding this coment
No 😂😂
no one asked
Off the drugs please
Goku, would you speak goku?If you even turn an ultra instinct he would just kill him
Gokus gonna punch gojo in his mouth
Gojo is just planet level and Goku is Low Multiversal Level
the fight would not even last a nano second
Goku in dbz crossed infinite distences like afterlife in base , gojo's infinite void won't stope base current goku who is FAR STRONGER than z goku , so Z base goku one shots gojo.
Even limbless crippled goku solos jjk
Goku is not infinitely fast. Because no one can be faster than infinity, not even Goku.
Goku has infinite speed, at an small amount of time
but gojo is not infinite so
If we really want to be stupid, Goku moved in a location that existed out of space and time and thus is infinitely fast. Even if not, Goku is obliterating Gojo before he even crosses his fingers
Goku literally IS infinitely fast. He’s FASTER THAN TIME.
@@TheMercilessManureConsumer I like Goku bro I know he wins. It’s just being infinite speed is impossible. The only person who is infinitely fast is the guy on namek who can pause time
Kid goku victims
only gojo since a gag feat like that is not very impressive
Napp has a power level of 4,000☝️🤓
Ya but then he raises his power level when vegeta tells him to calm down and get serious. That’s when nappa started to give goku a good fight but then goku used kai oh ken and it was over.
Goatku slams Go/jo
He didn't explain it in it's simplest form, so I'll do it
Think of it like this if we assume Gojo infinity is true infinity then it's a lower lvl of infinity than Goku's movements allowing Goku to bypass Gojo infinity
But here's where the problem arises, this mf Goku has higher dimensional more specifically 7D infinite speed to irrelevant speed in BASE, meaning no matter how great or absolute Gojo infinity is it wouldn't exist for Goku cuz he's working on a higher dimensional speed
😂, and that's why I find this debate stupid cuz most know wat infinite speed is but don't know how it Truely works, Goku's infinite speed isn't the same as Whis infinite speed cuz whis can travel to higher dimensions than the entire multiverse in finite time however Goku in base cannot do that though he still has infinite speed his dimensionally lower
Goku infinite speed - 7D+
Whis infinite speed - 10D+
And jus like how to a finite 4D being Infinite 3D beings would be finite or infinitely lower the same is true for speed, aswell as strength and any other attribute 😂
Hope this helps people understand a little better as to why "Goku Solos" isn't just a meme it's actually 99.9999999% factual 😂
bro u dont even gotta say all this all goku has to do is blow up the planet and instant transmission away
@@JavaQuest.I had to bro, There was no other way to make them understand
@@JavaQuest. kid goku cracked a manga panel making him already higher dimensionality than gojo meaning goku existing already bypasses infinity
Goku slams ggs no dif ez.😂
Gojo its Krillin lvl at all
Goku wins cry about it
you wrong ... baby goku and kid goku can lose again gojo
get gojo to moon level then. Kid goku >>> master roshi who effortlessly destroyed the moon. Kid goku got way stronger after his fight with jackie chun
@@editsMrRushh i mean kid goku before he meet bulma
@@razornad1299he doesn’t need to meet bulma to obliterate that Sukuna victim
@@razornad1299ozaro
@@editsMrRushhchi chi has the same power level as master Roshi in the last arc of dragon ball which literally makes her a moon buster
This gotta be the dumbest thing i've ever seen goku obviously wins
FAAAAAAACTS
kid goku negs the verse
Goku quite literally showed that you can overpower hax abilities through raw strength when he broke through Hit's timeskip so idk man
or like when vegito fought buu as a piece of candy because he was too strong lmao
@@EnoYaka or when vegeta punched through hakai which is conceptual, beerus negate the shockwaves that were gonna obliterate the infinite universe with absolute ease. Zamasu also have a ability called the barrier of light which eliminates any attacks coming towards him as well as striking opponents by firing and later on we casually see goku continuing to be able to damage him. We see vegeta negating babidi’s mind control with sheer force. The gang tried to wish goku to come back and wished for the d balls to have the androids killed but they couldnt do that due to the androids being superior to them in strength and goku being superior to porunga’s strength and the dragons were stated to grant any wish but saiyans casually negating all those wishes due to being superior in terms of strength. Not only we see vegito got turned into a candy and body buu but later we see vegito over power’s buu durability negation. We also see goku shattering through hits pocket dimension of space and time. And theres more but thats just it for now.