Fun fact: Akira Toriyama made Both Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest So we put two of Akira's most famous projects against eachother RIP Akira Toriyama btw he made the character designs for Dragon Quest
Technically he just designed the art for it but another cool connection is that Dragon Quest was a direct inspiration to Mother/Earthbound which is pretty cool imo :]
@@paragonandarky no unironically mito.outo sakraos kirby wins super man would lose to sora as much as I'd want him and goku to beat him thiers not much they could do it's like super man vs raven unorcly my favorite charater but snaoping super man prime 1 million out of existence is an example of how much stronger kirby is than goku and super man and unironically super man would lose to both cell and majin buu to beings that regerate and when thier fed could blow up the solor system and evtuly the sun kid buu would instantly blow up the planet but cell i don't know if he would but his stregth level is solor system level he can unironically beat most versions of super man and if he trained he'd become universal and thus would be considered symetra level who killed super man by the way raven at full power is equivalent to elaine beloc and could blink all of dc so yes she can beat cell and makin buu effortlessly but the justice league unironically loses to both cell and buuhan
(Vegeta, Broly, Frieza, Beerus are all in a pile knocked out) Goku: HOW THE FUCK IS HE SO STRONG, HE'S JUST A PLUMBER!!?!?! Mario: wahoo I like spaghetti!
@@Denise-jm1cz If he gets his strong hits off quickly then yes but he REALLY needs the help of Luigi to get speed required to dodge. Maybe to hit back too. He might not be enough in the speed department
Kirby scales to Galacta-Knight and the Lor Starcutter, who can travel beyond time by moving through a space which is stated to be superior to time, space, and dimensions (Another Dimension). He also scales to the destruction of said space via Void Termina and Magolor. He's 5D and immeasurable. You also didn't account for Kirby's hax. Even if he was that much slower and weaker, he could still revive himself enough times to come up with the plan to stop time and use an instant win con, like transmutation/deconstruction, and friend hearts. This is more of a stretch of course, but it barely matters since Kirby holds the stat trinity.
@@AydenWilliams-z3k Most Kirby VS debaters are total noobs when it comes to power-scalling. They're not toxic per say, but they can be annoyingly ignorant.
@@alexbaribeault true that's why I think kirby Is overrated saying he can beat anyone just by taking there power isn't gonna work but thx for actually give proof
@@alexbaribeault A fellow person who does their research with the puff ball. Also the final level of Kirby star allies was stated to be outside of time in the pause screen. Not to mention the likes of star dream, Galacta knight, Morpho knight, and chaos elfilis greatly upscale Magolor. And void is stronger than all of them.
@@AydenWilliams-z3k The strongest Smash chraracter that Kirby can beat, in my opinion, is Mario. Even that is debatable due to Mario potentially being much stronger and having more effective revives, but I think Kirby edges out via speed and layered emphatic hax. While Kirby is over-hyped, he's not much different from Goku himself in that regard. Whenever a strong character exists and people ask "Can they beat Goku though?", "Can they beat Kirby?" is a question that comes up not long after. Both questions come from the fact that both characters are easily percieved as icons of power for anime and video games respectively, primarily due to the fact that their feats are very blatantly impressive and generally don't leave much room for interpretation.
Yeah I thought that too but then I realized he's only referring to the playable Pokémon in Smash. Also is Arceus only 5D, I'd think it was stronger since it's the Pokémon equivalent of a capital G God.
@@Spillman98 Yeah no. The most you can argue for Game Sonic is Low Complex Multiversal (Which I do admittedly buy). I don't buy any of that "Concepts are High Outerversal" crap (I use VSBW"s standards for tiers).
@@Goji-Cdid you know that darksphine sonic rewite the arbien nights that had an infinite amount of universe im just saying this as a fun fact nothing really important
Well...they made game of the same Francine like mario kirby zelda etc, to avoid, why can't... beat...his old enemy that he beat is stronger! So they need tp make stronger enemy, or enemy that are problem but not strong.
5:00 Rob is canonically from our world... The plane of existence that brought Zeno into their existence He's not all that cut-and-dry if you think about it that way...
And since he is a toy, you can think of anything a child has ever thought of with him to be canon, and since we don't know the limit of some children's imagination, I would personally say that ROB is the strongest character in the entire game
@Solesteam I'm just letting everyone know the lowest cannon. Obviously I can imagine Rob being able to nuke everything and no one can say no when I was a child. But now I can add on to that. Such that he can shoot little rubber duckies that instantly kill you... and you still can't say no about it
Bro did steve dirty With creative mode and commands steve can lift the multiverse,is easily ftl, can summon monsters,is literally invinsable/immortal,can just delete worlds which have 3 different dimensions each, and with mods he can do infinite dmg
@@BlairMatthews-h4f a bunch of feats aren’t shown in smash but are still applied to the characters thru their games and Steve can definitely go into creative just cause
@@tornado5d267 the shit that sonic did (Solaris in particular being an omnipresent sun god) is something even current manga goku can't even dream about doing lmao
@@superbowsersilva finally I hate people who think sonic is a multiversal monster yet don't think Mario can easily get to that level as well higher with sonic it crazy how high both can get it like they where really made to be rivals in everything
@@gameuniverse5973 I agree and disagree, mario is hella underrated but there are those fans that say he can solo sonic verse with ease. I think it probably cuz most mario fans hate sonic fans but there are people that actually do know that mario and sonic can go Either way but in short mario is really underrated sonic kinda underrated but overrated kirby is one the most overrated characters In fiction
Sonic with full power joins the chat Tails can't die joins the chat Mario with a hammer joins the chat Luigi wins by aboluty nothing joins the chat Goku :i really dead rn💀
I actually disagree with the Zelda scaling. Zelda’s mid tiers consistently create entire dimensions with what is essentially a fraction of the power of a single Triforce piece (Vaati and Zant for example). Ocarina of Time Ganondorf alone already scales above statements like Rauru having “power stronger than time” as well as the Master Sword itself having an in game description describing it as transcending time. Plus there’s also the statement of how when he obtained the Triforce “his laugh echoed across time and space” (the Japanese translation actually uses a term synonymous to “transcending” as well.) Imo that’s 3 examples of this version of Ganondorf alone being 5D with arguably immeasurable speed. This isn’t even touching new info from Echoes of Wisdom where Zelda and Link can persist in a void without time, where other characters are explicitly frozen as a result. Edit: I disagree with the Kirby scaling too but other comments have already touched on it.
@@minecraftlord189 4D Dragon Ball isn’t something I disagree with. Although “forced ahead of time” in my opinion feels a little vague and could mean anything from speeding up one’s own local time to even just being hyperbolic of being faster than expected.
Also don't forget that we are talking about "lore" here, which means that at least this version of Ganondorf has had the complete triforce in the Falldown Timeline, and it grants the power of the three Goddesses to its wielder (According to japanese version of A Link to the Past)... you know, the same three goddesses that created the entire verse from Zelda. Plus, understandably, this video ignores HAX here... this version of Link has the ancient arrows that have the power of existential erasure (That's some Hakai right there).
@@FerhiosI’m 2 weeks late, but it’s also worth noting that Full Triforce scaling for ALTTP Ganon is even more insane than what I already wrote. The Goddesses, and thus the complete Triforce, transcend the already 5D cosmology of the Zelda multiverse, and are demonstrably hierarchical superior. Triforce Ganon is arguably 6D under this logic. (That being said, I will note that powerscaling is inherently unfalsifiable. Therefore there is no “correct” interpretation)
You forgot that void termina, much like solaris, is stated to be super dimensional and omnipresent both temporarily and spatially. Edit:I know super dimensional is just 1 dimensional layer above the cosmology.
"Super dimensional" means nothing without context. The definition of the term on its own just means "1+ dimensional" aka scaling 1 extra layer into dimensional power. Some other series' like Dragon Ball have described the interpretation of super dimensional to be "beyond dimensions" which could be scaled to outerversal but even that is a pretty shoddy argument because just like how being "beyond space and time" doesn't entail transcending all extensions of time and space, "beyond dimensions" would only mean transcending the dimensions which have actually been shown.
Goku and Beerus' fight in battle of gods was also stated to be "super dimensional" with even Beerus' power alone being described as "beyond dimensions". The same thing was also stated for Gogeta and Broly's fight in the Broly movie and it was even stated and shown that Gogeta and Broly while clashing broke through higher dimensional "super spaces" in their fight
Winners (characters Goku couldn’t beat in *this video* spoilers ahead): Sonic Bayonetta Joker Shulk Aegis Terry Mario Luigi Bowser Bowser Jr. Wario Yoshi Rosalina Peach Daisy DK Diddy K Rool Sora Luminary Erdrick Sephiroth Cloud Honestly he did better than I expected
Honestly, kind of expected. And sonic is still much stronger. There are other videos that have been calculating sonic's power as time goes on. Last vid I watched stated that sonic is 12th dimensional in base with 13th dimension mental attacks and his super form ups the scales by 9. He has alot going for him. Plus, all of the others have their own feats to prove on a higher scale in their own rights.
So let’s talk about Kirby as the resident Kirby nerd I am. Magolor was powered by the master crown. The master crown is made of only dark matter. The master crown scales than the grand doomer which contains infinite dimensions inside of it and scales higher than the regular doomers which are each their own dimension inside. Star dream was easily able to create a perfect clone of a strong dark matter creature which was as strong as the master crown. Galacta knight can one shot star dream. Morpho knight had the power of galacta knight and was way stronger than him. Chaos elfilis had the power of Morpho knight and was way stronger than him. Void is the origin of dark matter and can produce an infinite amount of dark matter and is confirmed to be Kirby’s strongest enemy as well as the origin of all chaos in Kirby’s cosmology. That gets through a massive scaling chain Chaos elfilis to at least complex multiversal and void to high complex multiversal at least. And Kirby can beat void. TLDR Kirby solos Goku.
He'd have to actually look into FE lore for that. And it seems he did the "hurdur they just sword guys" and ignore that Robin is casually FTL even ignoring Heroes.
@ I remember seeing a post about Grima being so big that their effects on gravity would destroy Earth just by them being there lol. My boy Donnel no diffs Homelander 😭😭😭
Fr like what about the rest of the Minecraft universe Minecraft dungeons, Minecraft earth, Minecraft legends, Minecraft story mode season 1 & 2 and then the upcoming movie and show which I get, he can’t scale yet because they aren’t out yet, but there’s also plenty of books for both Minecraft and Minecraft dungeons and maybe even the other games.
@@stargazer-elitesomeone did a video it’s called something like “the true strength of Steve” or something where if I remember correctly would scale above goku
@@Chill-Noob1 I remember you from a different comment section where Kirby was being discussed. Is his series your favorite video game series? It's my favorite.
One thing to note. Little Mac can scale to DK because of punch-out wii where he's a secret boss in the title defense mode. That bumps Little mac up quite a bit to be able to take and deal blows that can hurt Donkey Kong who has been show clapping with enough force to shatter meteors in the background or punching the moon out of the sky.
You say all the Mario characters are relative but Daisy has casually one-shot Bowser with a smack and sent him flying away like Team Rocket. Bowser has also confirmed that he is now scared of her.
@@heroofthewinds7765 Ian Flynn the main author for the Archie Comics stated that they are parallel universes on his Podcast called the BumbleKast. If you want I could find the exact episode.
@@CodeMarbles Only really true of rando side units. High tiers are pretty consistently within the continental range with some even reaching into planetary levels of power. Though yeah, they ain't winning without multiversal scaling from heroes.
So, if we take everything in pikmin with a grain of salt, you're telling me Olimar, the guy who is the sizeof a fucking ant, speed blitzes and one shots characters like Saitama, Saiyan Saga Goku, Omni Man and Showa Godzilla? TF
The only way I could see Goku losing against Ryu... Is if he were against a Composite Ryu which... Unironically from the stuff I've read, a composite Ryu VS a Composite Goku is one of the most absurd and bonkers debates I've seen In awhile due to just how much shit they get lol. Good vid
@@sridrawings4510 Maybe. There is a lot of insane shit they get. Ryu gets to become a power ranger, a transformer, he gets to scale to high tier marvel characters, gets fallguys stuff. While Goku gets xenoverse/heroes stuff, he gets the 4d God fusion thing and jump force scaling... Oh and both get Fortnite scaling yippee. so yeah its a weird debate
I mean he has Terry beating Goku and KoF Terry is canon to street fighter. With Street fighter 6 Ken and Ryu being able to evenly fight Terry in the story mode, so there's a way to argue for normal Ryu.
As a Fire Emblem fan, I will admit that I was offended that you skipped over the Fire Emblem characters but I am willing to admit they are absolutely fodder against Goku and over represented in Smash.
@EmilianoCharlo-xp2ny no unfortunately because he would only upscale the 70s marvel characters and they have gotten stronger since Heisei is a better option
@@minilla2382 dr strange can beat beings that control a universe with dimensions with no end and comic's thor can beat him with relative ease but states that he is not sure if he can beat godzilla,hulk that is kinda equal to thor gets one shoted by this godzilla Heisei at best scales to 11D, marvel godzilla inf D Also, nice pfp
32:42 “Void exists in all dimensions.” Taken from his pause screen description in Star Allies, and considering how he just straight-up beat what can be considered an infinite-dimensional being, he does in fact stack up against Sonic and Bayonetta.
Mario,bayo,sonic, joker, and sora kinda solo on their own Also i am glad you did mentioned star level olimar Also there a argument of the dog in stalemating since the zapper kid is arguably in a higher dimension so it means goku cant kill him Also good scaling for most of the chars you actually tried looking into all the chars
Goku outscales them all by far even in Battle of gods to black arc as he outscales beings who can threaten super timelines and has been and affected realms without the concept of time and space
Game over scenes aren’t the best way to powerscale but Kirby has immortal feats like in the start of mass attack, turning into a ghost and can become alive by hitting someone, he can’t be ripped apart and can be stretched and twisted an infinite amount of times
Goku has been damaged by bullets without any gags or funny moments during that scene in Dragon Ball Super. Since Steve gets killed by creepers then Goku gets beat by Duck Hunt if we go by your logic💀
Difference is that goku was caught off guard while being rusty while steve regularly takes said damage directly Not saying he's right but the comparison just doesn't work
@@RackerTheRascalMashuphe was on guarded and still got hurt it would be way worse imagine a off guarded goku gets hit by a bullet straight to the head and the bullet penetrates Goku’s forehead lol and it would end up having a hole and goku dies simple
Bro ain't no way he said the Miis are the same level as we fit trainer, when there are OTHER mii games that puts far above some of the other characters. They literally scale up to mario, since they can use his power ups and they can also use Sonic's speed as shown in Sonic colors. The Miis are trained in Kung Fu, boxing, martial arts, ninjutsu and karate. They are also experts at weapons, like swords, shurikens, bow and arrows. With miitopia they have divine powers and jobs that gives them abilities.
@gameuniverse5973 yet he downplayed goku at 4d when there are statements from guides than can easily put him at 5d such as the afterlife being stated to transcend dimensions perceived by the living world which makes sense since the kais view the living word as a Lower realm easily putting him at 5d also jiren is stated to litrally transcend time as whole to transcend u also transcend space which also solidifies 5d also gogeta vs broly battle is stated to be superdimensional and the dimensions they destroyed where superdimensuons which goku scales above that broly which gogeta fought and so on
@doge-kun2710 yeah that too I do believe goku sits in those 5d to 6d ranges consistently but u can get him higher a scaler by the name of atari hmb did a really good scaling video of how strong goku is u should watch it there are higher dimensions in dragon ball
23:50 steve can is soo strong he can hold a water bucket which is infinite and he can hold them in shulkers which means that he can hold over infinite amounts of weight making him infinitely strong which means that he negs goku. 💀🔥
So steve can carry an finite amount of infinite bodies. Goku has infinite god chi. And a finite amount of god chi is enough to destroy an infinite space. Infinite infinites>finite infinites. Goku is stronger than steve.
The Duck Hunt Duo is actually a trio, with the third member being the player, who essentially controls what happens from a different dimension via the zappers. Put this into perspective with Goku, and nothing Goku can do will ever hurt us, because we exist in a realm that is outside of Goku's awareness, yet still controls his own realm. The character Duck Hunt is therefore unscalable because it removes the basis for scaling characters to each other, being that if they hypothetically met, they'd be on the same playing field. But by nature of the character, that isn't possible because we cannot exist on the same field as the rest of the character. If Goku and Duck were to face off with their canonical abilities, Duck Hunt would have the advantage, as they exist in a video game. Goku, being shown to have traveled to different universes, would have to obey by the rules of the game if he were to fight Duck Hunt. The dog and the duck may be defeated, but the third character is omnipresent, with complete awareness of Goku, while Goku physically cannot be aware of the player. This means that you have as much time as you'd like to shoot Goku from what is essentially the fourth or fifth dimension to him, and he couldn't do anything about it. And if he's in the game, he cannot win. He is part of the game, and therefore has HP, and in this game, there actually is no winning. The point of the game is to obtain the highest score you can. In this, if Goku were to not die from the zappers, yet still be a part of the game, he would be trapped in essentially a hell dimension, being shot at forever, or at least the game is turned off (which doesn't happen from his perspective, as he doesn't exist during this time). In fact, the moment Goku is up against Duck Hunt, he loses, as him being put into the game would remove his sentience from the equation, as he'd just be a character again. If Duck Hunt were to travel to Goku's universe, the person controlling the zappers would have to be elevated to a dimension higher than Goku's. The problem with this matchup is that the different parts of the character exist on entirely different scales, so it is therefore impossible to scale to both the duo and the being in control of the zappers at the same time (they also don't really have anything to scale to in universe, so there's that). Either way, while Duck Hunt might not scale multiversally at first glance - they would scale multidimensionally, and by extension, that indirectly results in multiversal scaling.
Bro really just decided to talk ignorance with kirby and didn't even bothered talking about how galacta knight exist, a character that casually blow up planets not to mention that dark matter are universal threats, and kirby killed a reality manipulating witch (drawcia) kirby beats goku
If you include boss fights, it's over for Goku Galeem simply turns him into a spirit and then continues battling Dharkon Tabuu snaps his finger and Goku is now a trophy
Steve has higher scaling than that.Even the stupidly lowballed feats for him in the vs battle wiki get him to at least city block to town level. You see,even with an ordinary iron sword,a hero similar to Steve sliced off the arm of a redstone golem casually. Redstone golems and other golems like them(specifically the redstone and obsidian monstrosities) seem to be full of the material they are names after.In this case redstone.A redstone block has infinite energy.Therefore redstone dust should technically have infinite energy too (even 1% of infinite is still infinite).From my observations, the golem should be compromised of 28 redstone blocks worth of redstone.So infinite energy times 28.If we assume that the golems angered state gives them at least a two times power boost that gets us at 56 times infinite energy.We could then multiply by nine if we take the dust into consideration which is 504 times infinity.The redstone monstrosity is comprised of nearly double the amount a normal golem so it's power would be 1008 times infinity.A hero with a normal iron sword sliced the arm of the normal redstone golem casually in the rise of the arch illager book,the only book to be officially labelled as canon.So Steve even with a simple unenchanted iron sword Steve is hundreds of times above infinity and this is still ignoring the actually high tier feats.The book supports the idea of redstone having infinite energy because when the monstrosity was chasing someone it was said that it would never stop because of infinite energy. As for speed.One word. *INFINITY*. I am not joking,Steve and all mobs for that matter have consistent infinite speed statements.In dungeons and legends it is said that the illager empire and the piglins had reached the furthest parts of the Overworld dimensions which is consistently called infinitely flat.The piglins are said to be able of conquering the dimension whole.This would give illagers and piglins or any mob or hero infinite speed.The golems mentioned earlier were stated to have had sent trembles sensed by the entirety of the Overworld which is also infinite speed and it was implied that the dlc bosses of dungeons would travel the entire world to destroy it.The mobs could travel across a continent within this infinite world in just a few days and we see illagers in the far way dlc islands which are located in the furthest parts of the world implying that they also travelled there.Steve can speedblitz any mob to the point were they can barely react to his attacks. All of this is still a really lowballed Steve still, but you get the point. Steve just wins Edit:So I just remembered that power levels are a thing is MC dungeons.The hero who sliced of the arm of the golem must have had a power level of one at that point in time since the other heroes we play as knew him and saw him as someone at their level.The redstone monstrosity level has a recommended power level of 16,meaning that it is actually 16 times more powerful than the smaller golem so close to 10000 times infinite power. Again,this is ignoring the high tier feats and cosmology.
@@reggielacey2235 as silly as it is, that is no hyperbole, technically the canon of minecraft is that steve is just an avatar for a god called the player, similar to avatars of darkseid and other gods like him who have noncorporeal forms, and the player simply plays with a sandbox that they have full control over, so every time you mod the game, every time you break, recode, or change the rules of the game, it is all canon.
Also the minecraft dungeons weapons can get stronger infinitly the stronger your current armor and stats which leaves them with no limits. Basically the dungeon weapons are saiyans.
@@gameuniverse5973prob remove Mario bayo and sora since they scale on the same dimensionality to Kirby Meanwhile sonic and joker are around high hyperversal to high outerversal plus to extraversal
Ngl, I do agree with some of this. But I still have some questions. Aren't Fire Emblem characters, and Minecraft Steve are like.. country to moon level?
@@dinnerlord65 Boundless because of the Player. At least in normal Minecraft, the Steve we use in Smash is based on is vanilla Survival Mode Steve. Wich means, bro is at least city level of AP and Durability.
Fire emblem has bs magic to it. If I am right Marth has the ability to control your mind with his sword and Robin can predict the future and create what he needs to with his magic cause he can guarantee that prep time. Fire emblem got that Dr.Strange level of BS.
Logically, when entering the smash bros universe, everyone goes to equal power due to balancing, meaning if Goku goes against the best recoverer and combo stringer, he’s cooked, but realistically Goku solos mostly everyone where.
Start of video: only 3 characters have the lore feats to even contend with goku, Kirby, sonic, and bayonetta. End of video: oh we're just doing crazy feats here, haha. Very entertaining on some of these scales.
@@LiquidNeon00 the dream stone was downplayed my guy in lore it stated to be filled with all dreams which we see just from the Mario world and outer space there possibly millions to billions to trillions of people With it being confirmed ghosts can dream Dreams are stated in lore to be entire universes
31:27 To be fair, you could high ball Incineroar to be relative or at worse 1/6th the AP of Solgaleo/Lunala, Base Necrozma, and Ultra Necrozma in the events of SM & USUM.
You can get him to multiversal-multiversal+ due to being able to carry stacks of chests filled with stacks of packed ice with has multiple blocks of water within it, just 1 is infinite and so is universal in mass at least and then you can scale his AP to this as he can still hit at the same speed which would utilize his kinetic energy or just hitting mobs with the chests themselves getting him comfortably in the multiversal+ range
@@brothsipper-h5oholding just two water buckets means Steve can hold infinite matter. You need to be durable enough to withstand your own strength so… Steve solos.
@@Chill-Noob1 he is holding the two buckets in his hands, left and right. Two water buckets can make infinite water. Therefore he can hold infinite matter.
Mewtwo does have multi scaling via The legends mobile game and ultra sun and moons team Rainbow Rocket. Basically it's a group of ALL the Team Leaders up to that point. And Giovanni is the leader and stated to be the strongest, with his ace being Mewtwo...this includes Cyrus and his Dialga mind you. It's debatable but still neat.
Goku when he tries to spot dodge the King K.Rool down-smash at 50%:
HE’S DONE FOR 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥
LOL real
At ledge he's done
let say hypothetically,you get grabbed by luigi at 0%
also wave dashing fox from melee and brawl meta knight
Goku: vegeta… did… did we finally beat them?
Kirby with vegeta hair charging a galick gun:
That'd make some fire fanart tbh 😂
@@BeDatAPickleI’m making that
@@BeDatAPicklecan i use this comment
@@Drawingkid-y9c That's really cool, but I'm not sure why you're asking me when I didn't make the original comment
@@BeDatAPickle yours and there’s so I had to ask one of them
Here’s a fun game, take a drink every time the words, universal, multiversal, and dimensional are said
HeY dId yoU NoTice hE loOkS LikE tHaT ChaRacTeR from LeGo nINjAGo (falls unconscious)
I'd pass out halfway through.
@@johnpett1955 And i SaId I cAn (hiccup) CaN outd oUtD OuTd..... dRiNk moRe tHaN yOu (falls unconscious)
No you'd die😭😭😭
Or "relative"
Goku: did we beat them?
vegeta: bro that was just bowser
That's being really generous to them both
Honestly you can argue bowser might win
@@gameuniverse5973 Bowser WILL win. He's tanky asf.
@@gameuniverse5973Cough cough dreamy bowser cough cough.
@@KirbyStarAnimation
OUT OF THE QUESTION, KING K ROOL SPIKING GOKU IS REAL 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🐊👑
Fun fact: Akira Toriyama made Both Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest So we put two of Akira's most famous projects against eachother RIP Akira Toriyama btw he made the character designs for Dragon Quest
Toriyama did the design of dragon quest not dragon quest
Technically he just designed the art for it but another cool connection is that Dragon Quest was a direct inspiration to Mother/Earthbound which is pretty cool imo :]
@@k-bomb9777 basically every rpg is inspired by dragon quest
@@Eeel-6-cdalso when it comes to Chrono trigger Tales of Symphonia and Golden Sun?
@@Eeel-6-cd Okay smartass, what does that add or take away from anything I said?
DC universe comes in “we have superman”. Mario “we have a Goku”….
EXCELLENT WORK. GOJI CHRONIC DRAGON BALL VS SUPER SMASH BROS
Superman wins
“We have a hedgehog”
Mario: "We have-a the Goku. Lets-a go!"
@@paragonandarky no unironically mito.outo sakraos kirby wins super man would lose to sora as much as I'd want him and goku to beat him thiers not much they could do it's like super man vs raven unorcly my favorite charater but snaoping super man prime 1 million out of existence is an example of how much stronger kirby is than goku and super man and unironically super man would lose to both cell and majin buu to beings that regerate and when thier fed could blow up the solor system and evtuly the sun kid buu would instantly blow up the planet but cell i don't know if he would but his stregth level is solor system level he can unironically beat most versions of super man and if he trained he'd become universal and thus would be considered symetra level who killed super man by the way raven at full power is equivalent to elaine beloc and could blink all of dc so yes she can beat cell and makin buu effortlessly but the justice league unironically loses to both cell and buuhan
(Vegeta, Broly, Frieza, Beerus are all in a pile knocked out)
Goku: HOW THE FUCK IS HE SO STRONG, HE'S JUST A PLUMBER!!?!?!
Mario: wahoo I like spaghetti!
Goku : WHAT THE FUCK HOW THIS LITTIE ANYMALS ARE SO STRONG
sonic and kirby:chlly dogs ,poyo wahoo
Mario joins the chat
Goku:☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
I will be fair to Goku and say Mario at least needs Luigi's help to dodge. Because alone he'll get hit too often and too fast.
Zeno: WHAT THE FUCK WHY CAN'T I ERASE THIS PINK LITTLE SHIT
Kirby: Haaaiiiii!
@@getthedunkon9347yea i agree but mario prob beat goku
@@Denise-jm1cz If he gets his strong hits off quickly then yes but he REALLY needs the help of Luigi to get speed required to dodge. Maybe to hit back too. He might not be enough in the speed department
Bro didn’t even have to mention Sephiroth and Cloud’s KH scaling which is also absurd 💀
Fr 😭
there too powerful lol
He stops at Mario.
Continued watching and he probably started with duck hunt for that specific reason 💀
Fax!!!
Eh I got goku over Mario, but it is what it is
Goku fans would go mario and luigi struggled against dog lol
That was from the movie not game lol
@@Galberosfaith that's when they first just starting out they're solo Goku
@@Galberosfaith like their managed to swim out a black hole
Saiyan Saga Vegeta: what a weak planet. Not even a single challenge.
Olimar with a can opener:
Kirby scales to Galacta-Knight and the Lor Starcutter, who can travel beyond time by moving through a space which is stated to be superior to time, space, and dimensions (Another Dimension). He also scales to the destruction of said space via Void Termina and Magolor. He's 5D and immeasurable.
You also didn't account for Kirby's hax. Even if he was that much slower and weaker, he could still revive himself enough times to come up with the plan to stop time and use an instant win con, like transmutation/deconstruction, and friend hearts. This is more of a stretch of course, but it barely matters since Kirby holds the stat trinity.
@@alexbaribeault you're the first person that actually shows proof instead of repeating "he beats gods" or "he can just swallow them up"
@@AydenWilliams-z3k Most Kirby VS debaters are total noobs when it comes to power-scalling. They're not toxic per say, but they can be annoyingly ignorant.
@@alexbaribeault true that's why I think kirby Is overrated saying he can beat anyone just by taking there power isn't gonna work but thx for actually give proof
@@alexbaribeault A fellow person who does their research with the puff ball.
Also the final level of Kirby star allies was stated to be outside of time in the pause screen.
Not to mention the likes of star dream, Galacta knight, Morpho knight, and chaos elfilis greatly upscale Magolor.
And void is stronger than all of them.
@@AydenWilliams-z3k The strongest Smash chraracter that Kirby can beat, in my opinion, is Mario. Even that is debatable due to Mario potentially being much stronger and having more effective revives, but I think Kirby edges out via speed and layered emphatic hax. While Kirby is over-hyped, he's not much different from Goku himself in that regard. Whenever a strong character exists and people ask "Can they beat Goku though?", "Can they beat Kirby?" is a question that comes up not long after. Both questions come from the fact that both characters are easily percieved as icons of power for anime and video games respectively, primarily due to the fact that their feats are very blatantly impressive and generally don't leave much room for interpretation.
Let's make Olimar beating Goku with a can opener a joke in the power scaler community
A rather simple yet phenomenal idea.
I feel like the pikmin subreddit would love this
Careful, Dragon Ball fans don't know how to take jokes
@@Kami.Asura000yea, I can’t
@@Kami.Asura000as a cabba fan, i can confirm that they can only enjoy jokes that have been around for at least 2 decades
This video was definitiely made on time without any crunch
MY GOAT
Definitely
This week is Dragon Ball week. First Bardock getting disrespected by Death Battle, Sparking Zero, Daima, and then this
@@MrNo-rb5qf nah at this point people mostly see deathbattle as a meme
Yajirobe Vs JoJo’s lookin juicy ya know?
goku when his recovery gets stopped by 3 dirt blocks:
I have no idea what 90% of Smash characters can do but Goku ain't getting past the hungry piece of bubblegum that's for sure
Arceus in a corner chilling at 5th dimensional being salty that Mewtwo was called the strongest Pokemon.
Yeah I thought that too but then I realized he's only referring to the playable Pokémon in Smash. Also is Arceus only 5D, I'd think it was stronger since it's the Pokémon equivalent of a capital G God.
@@richardmorgan3665 outer at best
6D lowballed
Base Goku is stronger then…
@@dsm2417 Bleach has cho-jigen too means Ichigo in base is outerversal (no), you misreading db fan who can't give any normal proof stfu
*cries in sad Ultra Necrozma noises*
Bro down0layed Sonic and he still won, I'm so proud of Goji rn
Lmao ☠️
Fr Sonic is high outer which is a regular scale I could argue bloundless
@@Spillman98 Yeah no. The most you can argue for Game Sonic is Low Complex Multiversal (Which I do admittedly buy). I don't buy any of that "Concepts are High Outerversal" crap (I use VSBW"s standards for tiers).
@@Goji-Cdid you know that darksphine sonic rewite the arbien nights that had an infinite amount of universe im just saying this as a fun fact nothing really important
Lol
Can Nintendo stop making multi-universal characters for just 5 minutes!!?
Nintendo. No at least we'll be doing Universal characters for Zelda.
Well...they made game of the same Francine like mario kirby zelda etc, to avoid, why can't... beat...his old enemy that he beat is stronger! So they need tp make stronger enemy, or enemy that are problem but not strong.
@@peteriter nintendo cooks up just strong chars like it nothing
5:00 Rob is canonically from our world... The plane of existence that brought Zeno into their existence He's not all that cut-and-dry if you think about it that way...
Ok? Uhhhhhhhhh goku wins cause idc
And since he is a toy, you can think of anything a child has ever thought of with him to be canon, and since we don't know the limit of some children's imagination, I would personally say that ROB is the strongest character in the entire game
@@Necroblaze Why just children? If I go out and buy a rob and have him beat the fusion between Lord Beerus and Champa then little ol Goku is done.
@Solesteam I'm just letting everyone know the lowest cannon. Obviously I can imagine Rob being able to nuke everything and no one can say no when I was a child. But now I can add on to that. Such that he can shoot little rubber duckies that instantly kill you... and you still can't say no about it
Bro did steve dirty
With creative mode and commands steve can lift the multiverse,is easily ftl, can summon monsters,is literally invinsable/immortal,can just delete worlds which have 3 different dimensions each, and with mods he can do infinite dmg
Facts
Is Steve in creative mode in smash and mods ain't part of the game
@@BlairMatthews-h4f a bunch of feats aren’t shown in smash but are still applied to the characters thru their games and Steve can definitely go into creative just cause
Steve: *Enters creative mode* "I... am Steve"
“In lore”
@Chill-Noob1 "I don't give the infinite amount of fucks"
I love the idea of goku meat riders foaming at the mouth over the thought that Luigi and sonic could like one shot him
im fine with my goat luigi one shotting goku
@@Hydraniac as am I
@@tornado5d267 the shit that sonic did (Solaris in particular being an omnipresent sun god) is something even current manga goku can't even dream about doing lmao
@ cool
You gave Mario the justice that he deserves thank you, Goji
@@superbowsersilva finally I hate people who think sonic is a multiversal monster yet don't think Mario can easily get to that level as well higher with sonic it crazy how high both can get it like they where really made to be rivals in everything
Steve
Yeah W
@@gameuniverse5973 I agree and disagree, mario is hella underrated but there are those fans that say he can solo sonic verse with ease. I think it probably cuz most mario fans hate sonic fans but there are people that actually do know that mario and sonic can go Either way but in short mario is really underrated sonic kinda underrated but overrated kirby is one the most overrated characters In fiction
@@AydenWilliams-z3k sonic def not underrated
goku when mario and luigi pull up with a teleporting window and a purple 2-headed flower: 💀
Sonic with full power joins the chat
Tails can't die joins the chat
Mario with a hammer joins the chat
Luigi wins by aboluty nothing joins the chat
Goku :i really dead rn💀
Then goku pulls up with MUI
Mario and Luigi: please Goku we need this😂
@@Spirit_Zone7 toad still solos
And just like that, you’ve already scaled dozens of new characters in a single vid
@@Nameless_Godzilla with him on several chars actually scaling them decently
I actually disagree with the Zelda scaling. Zelda’s mid tiers consistently create entire dimensions with what is essentially a fraction of the power of a single Triforce piece (Vaati and Zant for example). Ocarina of Time Ganondorf alone already scales above statements like Rauru having “power stronger than time” as well as the Master Sword itself having an in game description describing it as transcending time. Plus there’s also the statement of how when he obtained the Triforce “his laugh echoed across time and space” (the Japanese translation actually uses a term synonymous to “transcending” as well.)
Imo that’s 3 examples of this version of Ganondorf alone being 5D with arguably immeasurable speed. This isn’t even touching new info from Echoes of Wisdom where Zelda and Link can persist in a void without time, where other characters are explicitly frozen as a result.
Edit: I disagree with the Kirby scaling too but other comments have already touched on it.
Garlic jr created a hyperspace at a power level of 4,000, making him 4D
Goku has also forced himself ahead in time which was stated by King Kai.
@@minecraftlord189 4D Dragon Ball isn’t something I disagree with. Although “forced ahead of time” in my opinion feels a little vague and could mean anything from speeding up one’s own local time to even just being hyperbolic of being faster than expected.
Also don't forget that we are talking about "lore" here, which means that at least this version of Ganondorf has had the complete triforce in the Falldown Timeline, and it grants the power of the three Goddesses to its wielder (According to japanese version of A Link to the Past)... you know, the same three goddesses that created the entire verse from Zelda. Plus, understandably, this video ignores HAX here... this version of Link has the ancient arrows that have the power of existential erasure (That's some Hakai right there).
@@FerhiosI’m 2 weeks late, but it’s also worth noting that Full Triforce scaling for ALTTP Ganon is even more insane than what I already wrote. The Goddesses, and thus the complete Triforce, transcend the already 5D cosmology of the Zelda multiverse, and are demonstrably hierarchical superior. Triforce Ganon is arguably 6D under this logic.
(That being said, I will note that powerscaling is inherently unfalsifiable. Therefore there is no “correct” interpretation)
You forgot that void termina, much like solaris, is stated to be super dimensional and omnipresent both temporarily and spatially.
Edit:I know super dimensional is just 1 dimensional layer above the cosmology.
"Super dimensional" means nothing without context. The definition of the term on its own just means "1+ dimensional" aka scaling 1 extra layer into dimensional power. Some other series' like Dragon Ball have described the interpretation of super dimensional to be "beyond dimensions" which could be scaled to outerversal but even that is a pretty shoddy argument because just like how being "beyond space and time" doesn't entail transcending all extensions of time and space, "beyond dimensions" would only mean transcending the dimensions which have actually been shown.
Goku and Beerus' fight in battle of gods was also stated to be "super dimensional" with even Beerus' power alone being described as "beyond dimensions". The same thing was also stated for Gogeta and Broly's fight in the Broly movie and it was even stated and shown that Gogeta and Broly while clashing broke through higher dimensional "super spaces" in their fight
@@LightningX377. ..That is literally never stated, ever.
@@giganoterror2500LITERALLY. These guys are just making stuff up 😭
where? am i missing something?
Winners (characters Goku couldn’t beat in *this video* spoilers ahead):
Sonic
Bayonetta
Joker
Shulk
Aegis
Terry
Mario
Luigi
Bowser
Bowser Jr.
Wario
Yoshi
Rosalina
Peach
Daisy
DK
Diddy
K Rool
Sora
Luminary
Erdrick
Sephiroth
Cloud
Honestly he did better than I expected
Honestly, kind of expected. And sonic is still much stronger. There are other videos that have been calculating sonic's power as time goes on. Last vid I watched stated that sonic is 12th dimensional in base with 13th dimension mental attacks and his super form ups the scales by 9. He has alot going for him. Plus, all of the others have their own feats to prove on a higher scale in their own rights.
Diddy?
Glad to see you're still active :)
@@eking5165Diddy Kong
Goku ultra instinct will win 🏆
The Kirby disrespect is real
Short answer: I don't know, I'm still watching the video
Kirby: You just inhaled your last Senzu Bean
Bro, Fire Emblem Three Houses sold over 4 million copies its clearly popular lol
So let’s talk about Kirby as the resident Kirby nerd I am.
Magolor was powered by the master crown.
The master crown is made of only dark matter.
The master crown scales than the grand doomer which contains infinite dimensions inside of it and scales higher than the regular doomers which are each their own dimension inside.
Star dream was easily able to create a perfect clone of a strong dark matter creature which was as strong as the master crown.
Galacta knight can one shot star dream.
Morpho knight had the power of galacta knight and was way stronger than him.
Chaos elfilis had the power of Morpho knight and was way stronger than him.
Void is the origin of dark matter and can produce an infinite amount of dark matter and is confirmed to be Kirby’s strongest enemy as well as the origin of all chaos in Kirby’s cosmology.
That gets through a massive scaling chain Chaos elfilis to at least complex multiversal and void to high complex multiversal at least.
And Kirby can beat void.
TLDR Kirby solos Goku.
@@KirbyStarAnimationwhat does TLDR mean?
@@AydenWilliams-z3kToo lazy didn't read
@@AydenWilliams-z3k Too Long, Didn’t Read.
It basically means as a very short abbreviation.
@@KirbyStarAnimation oh thx
@@mariatukoroma3900 thx
Wait til he realizes all the FE reps have taken down a god who reset the multiverse 💀💀💀
He'd have to actually look into FE lore for that. And it seems he did the "hurdur they just sword guys" and ignore that Robin is casually FTL even ignoring Heroes.
@ I remember seeing a post about Grima being so big that their effects on gravity would destroy Earth just by them being there lol. My boy Donnel no diffs Homelander 😭😭😭
Ok maybe, but we don't like fire emblem
The steve slander is crazy 🙏
Fr like what about the rest of the Minecraft universe Minecraft dungeons, Minecraft earth, Minecraft legends, Minecraft story mode season 1 & 2 and then the upcoming movie and show which I get, he can’t scale yet because they aren’t out yet, but there’s also plenty of books for both Minecraft and Minecraft dungeons and maybe even the other games.
@@stargazer-elitesomeone did a video it’s called something like “the true strength of Steve” or something where if I remember correctly would scale above goku
bro knew if he mentioned anything beyond surface level when it came to Kirby, goku would be dead in the water
Bro really brushed off and ignored like 90% of Kirby scaling huh...
Fr
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@@TheSuperGoober because like sonic there's no reason to bring them up. He probably stops at bowser because of the stupid amount of hax he has lmao
Magalor did not create/destroy just a universe. When the fought Magalor, they fought him in a *dimension* created to erase Kirby from *existence*
Wait what?
@@TheMEGAStar-DR3AM Another Dimension wasn't created by Magolor. It's a macrocosm of parallel universes and roads beyond the space-time continuum.
@@justjames4dang
@@Chill-Noob1 I remember you from a different comment section where Kirby was being discussed. Is his series your favorite video game series? It's my favorite.
LET'S GOOOO Also Mario scaling vid fr? (It would be great ngl)
I need someone to finally do a good Mario scaling
Saying Kirby loses is actually insane. All bro has to do is throw a heart and the battle is won 😭😭
It’s possible since Kirby speed blitz
Ah hell naw he hit us with the Multi-City Block Metal Gear
I know mfs who argue much higher lmao
Same with pac man, which is at least universal
It's pretty consistent, if anything you could scale snake even higher
Calcs and statements can get the verse up to MFTL+ and country level.
@GeneFOX70 Hello, Pac man got way more low balled
Honestly, I feel like Goku would have a lot of trouble soloing Super Smash Bros. Video game characters are just TOO broken to be honest.
Almost all the smash chars have actual higher scaling than you would expect
It funny how Samus is actually easily planet
Kirby is a creature of demonic origins
@@gameuniverse5973 Canon Samus is a Planet Buster
That's why you pull out the video game gokus to clap back lmao
@@dragonhearted7761 Like Xenoverse Goku?
Honestly I expected the Kingdom Hearts and Xenoblade verse to solo Goku. Kingdom Hearts and the Conduit aren’t jokes in their respective verses
One zero to death Wario combo and he’s done for.
@@EdmundiumHitting Did you tell your friends to unblock me?
One thing to note. Little Mac can scale to DK because of punch-out wii where he's a secret boss in the title defense mode. That bumps Little mac up quite a bit to be able to take and deal blows that can hurt Donkey Kong who has been show clapping with enough force to shatter meteors in the background or punching the moon out of the sky.
So this means dk jumps higher than mario becase moon is a space and dk jumped like 20 seconds
You say all the Mario characters are relative but Daisy has casually one-shot Bowser with a smack and sent him flying away like Team Rocket. Bowser has also confirmed that he is now scared of her.
Where, I need to know when this happened that sounds hilarious
@@calvinhoek9412 Look up Daisy smacks Bowser.
I don’t understand how Sonic is only 5D when it’s explicitly stated that the Game Sonic multiverse is the same size as Archie’s.
I'm actually interested in where that's stated. Even then, the most you can argue for Archie Sonic's cosmology is 12D.
@@heroofthewinds7765 Ian Flynn the main author for the Archie Comics stated that they are parallel universes on his Podcast called the BumbleKast. If you want I could find the exact episode.
@@heroofthewinds7765 Ian Flynn the author of the Archie Comics said it on his podcast. Flynn is a lore manager for the Games currently.
@@axiom6000 Ah okay that actually makes sense.
That would only make him 6D at most
Finally! Someone who actually powerscale the Plumber himself
I can genuinely imagine botw link smirking at goku with 5000 glitched fairies in his pocket
Bro, Goku would be like “I want to see you at your full power” then proceed to let himself get grabbed by Ice Climbers and Wobbled to death
Under sold Kirby and didn’t even try with Fire Emblem. Though I have been thirsting for Pokémon scaling content, maybe you’ll do better on that.
tbf Fire Emblem is a pretty weak verse until you account for spinoffs like Heroes and Engage, neither of which are in Smash.
@@CodeMarblesnah Anakhos and grima put the verse to universal at least
@@CodeMarbles Heroes and Engage are cannon tho. Engage is even a mainline game.
@@CodeMarbles Only really true of rando side units. High tiers are pretty consistently within the continental range with some even reaching into planetary levels of power. Though yeah, they ain't winning without multiversal scaling from heroes.
So, if we take everything in pikmin with a grain of salt, you're telling me Olimar, the guy who is the sizeof a fucking ant, speed blitzes and one shots characters like Saitama, Saiyan Saga Goku, Omni Man and Showa Godzilla? TF
@@Flowing_water_Editz I mean the star destroying laser is said very casually and a normal thing olimar has
Great vid. Was honestly shocked you could get bayonetta that high. Also Archie sonic vs paper Mario? (Don’t remember who the strongest Mario is lmao)
Mario Kun is the strongest
The way he says "ryu" is disrespectful ☠️
And also kazuya
And "grimoire"
23:50 just give Steve resistance five which makes him entirely immune to damage GG
technically commands are canon so this could be a serious point and boom steve just wins
Steve’s commands won’t even work on characters that are not from Minecraft
@@Chill-Noob1 he can use commands to make himself immune to damage and give himself a sharpness G(64) sword and one shot Goku that way.
@@fredwevlingmatre4722Nah, Goku just flies into space, blows up Steve's planet. Then Steve falls into the void gg ez.
@@Pufferfish725 na na Steve would just give himself regeneration 10,000 and he would be fine.
The only way I could see Goku losing against Ryu... Is if he were against a Composite Ryu which... Unironically from the stuff I've read, a composite Ryu VS a Composite Goku is one of the most absurd and bonkers debates I've seen In awhile due to just how much shit they get lol.
Good vid
Is mvc ryu OPier than DBS goku?
@@sridrawings4510 Maybe. There is a lot of insane shit they get. Ryu gets to become a power ranger, a transformer, he gets to scale to high tier marvel characters, gets fallguys stuff. While Goku gets xenoverse/heroes stuff, he gets the 4d God fusion thing and jump force scaling... Oh and both get Fortnite scaling yippee. so yeah its a weird debate
I mean he has Terry beating Goku and KoF Terry is canon to street fighter. With Street fighter 6 Ken and Ryu being able to evenly fight Terry in the story mode, so there's a way to argue for normal Ryu.
As a Fire Emblem fan, I will admit that I was offended that you skipped over the Fire Emblem characters but I am willing to admit they are absolutely fodder against Goku and over represented in Smash.
Robin and Corrin and the people in their army should scale to at least planetary and multiversale based on Anakos and grimas statements in games
Replace Goku with Godzilla in this matchup and Goji Chronic would be wanking him to the highest levels imaginable to say Godzilla wins lmfao
Marvel godzilla scales to high outer due to beating hulk,thor and hercules from the comics
@@starjones7050 Godzilla would still lose to at least five pretty easy even with comp Godzilla and they don't get comp
@EmilianoCharlo-xp2ny no unfortunately because he would only upscale the 70s marvel characters and they have gotten stronger since
Heisei is a better option
@@minilla2382 dr strange can beat beings that control a universe with dimensions with no end and comic's thor can beat him with relative ease but states that he is not sure if he can beat godzilla,hulk that is kinda equal to thor gets one shoted by this godzilla
Heisei at best scales to 11D, marvel godzilla inf D
Also, nice pfp
32:42
“Void exists in all dimensions.”
Taken from his pause screen description in Star Allies, and considering how he just straight-up beat what can be considered an infinite-dimensional being, he does in fact stack up against Sonic and Bayonetta.
Goku: "Vegeta, did we beat them."
*vegeta apologizing for all of his sins in front of some teen*
Since both Mario and Sonic can beat Goku I’m just picturing them getting the old SMBZ crew together to drop some sick nasty combos on the verse.
Guy makes a universe the size of a closet: damn he slaps Goku
Mario,bayo,sonic, joker, and sora kinda solo on their own
Also i am glad you did mentioned star level olimar
Also there a argument of the dog in stalemating since the zapper kid is arguably in a higher dimension so it means goku cant kill him
Also good scaling for most of the chars you actually tried looking into all the chars
Where do you get Solar System level Fire emblem?
i know of heroes. But ive only seen continental to planetary level stuff in the normal verse
Pac man is actually universe with immeasurable speed that's true
Joker one taps Dragon ball.
Goku outscales them all by far even in Battle of gods to black arc as he outscales beings who can threaten super timelines and has been and affected realms without the concept of time and space
@@KingRenryujinot even close
Kirby doesn't die, he just falls asleep
Almost every game over screen is you waking him up to continue
Game over scenes aren’t the best way to powerscale but Kirby has immortal feats like in the start of mass attack, turning into a ghost and can become alive by hitting someone, he can’t be ripped apart and can be stretched and twisted an infinite amount of times
Kirby downplay sorta crazy but good video
Goku has been damaged by bullets without any gags or funny moments during that scene in Dragon Ball Super.
Since Steve gets killed by creepers then Goku gets beat by Duck Hunt if we go by your logic💀
Difference is that goku was caught off guard while being rusty while steve regularly takes said damage directly
Not saying he's right but the comparison just doesn't work
@@RackerTheRascalMashuphe was on guarded and still got hurt it would be way worse imagine a off guarded goku gets hit by a bullet straight to the head and the bullet penetrates Goku’s forehead lol and it would end up having a hole and goku dies simple
Bro ain't no way he said the Miis are the same level as we fit trainer, when there are OTHER mii games that puts far above some of the other characters.
They literally scale up to mario, since they can use his power ups and they can also use Sonic's speed as shown in Sonic colors.
The Miis are trained in Kung Fu, boxing, martial arts, ninjutsu and karate.
They are also experts at weapons, like swords, shurikens, bow and arrows.
With miitopia they have divine powers and jobs that gives them abilities.
None of those are canon
@@reggielacey2235 yes it is.
You again! Like I said Sonic destroys Mario
I actually didn't know Pyra/Mythra and Shulk can Scale to 5D-6D and beat Goku- W Vid
@@JDxY-2 yup cosmology for xenoblade goes crazy when you look at it
@gameuniverse5973 yet he downplayed goku at 4d when there are statements from guides than can easily put him at 5d such as the afterlife being stated to transcend dimensions perceived by the living world which makes sense since the kais view the living word as a Lower realm easily putting him at 5d also jiren is stated to litrally transcend time as whole to transcend u also transcend space which also solidifies 5d also gogeta vs broly battle is stated to be superdimensional and the dimensions they destroyed where superdimensuons which goku scales above that broly which gogeta fought and so on
@@JadoBouhzam Another good one for 5D Goku is him scaling to Beerus fighting Arale.
@doge-kun2710 yeah that too I do believe goku sits in those 5d to 6d ranges consistently but u can get him higher a scaler by the name of atari hmb did a really good scaling video of how strong goku is u should watch it there are higher dimensions in dragon ball
@@doge-kun2710a joke fight
Goji: "says he will use the canon version of characters"
2:25 Also Goji: "Inmediately uses anime filler content"
Goku quaking his boots when Mario and Sonic pull up
Goku slams
@ bro does not know💀
@ Mario and Sonic at base are stronger than anything Goku has faced
23:50 steve can is soo strong he can hold a water bucket which is infinite and he can hold them in shulkers which means that he can hold over infinite amounts of weight making him infinitely strong which means that he negs goku. 💀🔥
So i guess that a llama spitting on him until he dies is also infinity strong too, or maybe him getting pricked to death by a berry bush
@ yes as llamas can also carry infinite water
So steve can carry an finite amount of infinite bodies. Goku has infinite god chi. And a finite amount of god chi is enough to destroy an infinite space. Infinite infinites>finite infinites. Goku is stronger than steve.
Yet Steve still dies to a anvil
Steve is overrated
The answer no like he gets walled so hard. Like Kirby, Sonic or Beyonetta have got to be able to beat home. Hell Mario has a decent argument for it.
Kirby puts him down just for eating all the food
The Duck Hunt Duo is actually a trio, with the third member being the player, who essentially controls what happens from a different dimension via the zappers. Put this into perspective with Goku, and nothing Goku can do will ever hurt us, because we exist in a realm that is outside of Goku's awareness, yet still controls his own realm. The character Duck Hunt is therefore unscalable because it removes the basis for scaling characters to each other, being that if they hypothetically met, they'd be on the same playing field. But by nature of the character, that isn't possible because we cannot exist on the same field as the rest of the character. If Goku and Duck were to face off with their canonical abilities, Duck Hunt would have the advantage, as they exist in a video game. Goku, being shown to have traveled to different universes, would have to obey by the rules of the game if he were to fight Duck Hunt. The dog and the duck may be defeated, but the third character is omnipresent, with complete awareness of Goku, while Goku physically cannot be aware of the player. This means that you have as much time as you'd like to shoot Goku from what is essentially the fourth or fifth dimension to him, and he couldn't do anything about it. And if he's in the game, he cannot win. He is part of the game, and therefore has HP, and in this game, there actually is no winning. The point of the game is to obtain the highest score you can. In this, if Goku were to not die from the zappers, yet still be a part of the game, he would be trapped in essentially a hell dimension, being shot at forever, or at least the game is turned off (which doesn't happen from his perspective, as he doesn't exist during this time). In fact, the moment Goku is up against Duck Hunt, he loses, as him being put into the game would remove his sentience from the equation, as he'd just be a character again. If Duck Hunt were to travel to Goku's universe, the person controlling the zappers would have to be elevated to a dimension higher than Goku's. The problem with this matchup is that the different parts of the character exist on entirely different scales, so it is therefore impossible to scale to both the duo and the being in control of the zappers at the same time (they also don't really have anything to scale to in universe, so there's that). Either way, while Duck Hunt might not scale multiversally at first glance - they would scale multidimensionally, and by extension, that indirectly results in multiversal scaling.
Goku when he sees Mario and Luigi pull out the Magic Mirror.
since sonic and kirby are there then the answer is no
Bro really just decided to talk ignorance with kirby and didn't even bothered talking about how galacta knight exist, a character that casually blow up planets not to mention that dark matter are universal threats, and kirby killed a reality manipulating witch (drawcia) kirby beats goku
Also I'd be totally down for you to do a Video involving Sora, anything Kingdom Hearts would be awesome
19:20 but don't forget their durability actually scales to infinity!... Pretty briefly, and they still have low AP, but it's worth a mention.
If you include boss fights, it's over for Goku
Galeem simply turns him into a spirit and then continues battling Dharkon
Tabuu snaps his finger and Goku is now a trophy
Steve has higher scaling than that.Even the stupidly lowballed feats for him in the vs battle wiki get him to at least city block to town level.
You see,even with an ordinary iron sword,a hero similar to Steve sliced off the arm of a redstone golem casually. Redstone golems and other golems like them(specifically the redstone and obsidian monstrosities) seem to be full of the material they are names after.In this case redstone.A redstone block has infinite energy.Therefore redstone dust should technically have infinite energy too (even 1% of infinite is still infinite).From my observations, the golem should be compromised of 28 redstone blocks worth of redstone.So infinite energy times 28.If we assume that the golems angered state gives them at least a two times power boost that gets us at 56 times infinite energy.We could then multiply by nine if we take the dust into consideration which is 504 times infinity.The redstone monstrosity is comprised of nearly double the amount a normal golem so it's power would be 1008 times infinity.A hero with a normal iron sword sliced the arm of the normal redstone golem casually in the rise of the arch illager book,the only book to be officially labelled as canon.So Steve even with a simple unenchanted iron sword Steve is hundreds of times above infinity and this is still ignoring the actually high tier feats.The book supports the idea of redstone having infinite energy because when the monstrosity was chasing someone it was said that it would never stop because of infinite energy.
As for speed.One word.
*INFINITY*.
I am not joking,Steve and all mobs for that matter have consistent infinite speed statements.In dungeons and legends it is said that the illager empire and the piglins had reached the furthest parts of the Overworld dimensions which is consistently called infinitely flat.The piglins are said to be able of conquering the dimension whole.This would give illagers and piglins or any mob or hero infinite speed.The golems mentioned earlier were stated to have had sent trembles sensed by the entirety of the Overworld which is also infinite speed and it was implied that the dlc bosses of dungeons would travel the entire world to destroy it.The mobs could travel across a continent within this infinite world in just a few days and we see illagers in the far way dlc islands which are located in the furthest parts of the world implying that they also travelled there.Steve can speedblitz any mob to the point were they can barely react to his attacks.
All of this is still a really lowballed Steve still, but you get the point.
Steve just wins
Edit:So I just remembered that power levels are a thing is MC dungeons.The hero who sliced of the arm of the golem must have had a power level of one at that point in time since the other heroes we play as knew him and saw him as someone at their level.The redstone monstrosity level has a recommended power level of 16,meaning that it is actually 16 times more powerful than the smaller golem so close to
10000 times infinite power.
Again,this is ignoring the high tier feats and cosmology.
there's no such thing as a redstone golem in canon
Yes there is. Everything's canon in minecraft
@@reggielacey2235 as silly as it is, that is no hyperbole, technically the canon of minecraft is that steve is just an avatar for a god called the player, similar to avatars of darkseid and other gods like him who have noncorporeal forms, and the player simply plays with a sandbox that they have full control over, so every time you mod the game, every time you break, recode, or change the rules of the game, it is all canon.
Also the minecraft dungeons weapons can get stronger infinitly the stronger your current armor and stats which leaves them with no limits.
Basically the dungeon weapons are saiyans.
@@KingObliveven so, base game Steve scales way higher than Goku even in survival mode.
This was great, i would love to see a video about the Pokemon verse.
@@lawznwdsc peak easily complex multiversal to possibly higher with interpretation
This was a very interesting video. Thanks! Goji
13:40 Eggman did not create the time eater. He found it and used his technology to control it.
Yes of course good luck with Kirby, Goku
I Said good luck to Goku with Mario,sonic,bayo,Joker,and Sora those guys are monsters
@@gameuniverse5973prob remove Mario bayo and sora since they scale on the same dimensionality to Kirby
Meanwhile sonic and joker are around high hyperversal to high outerversal plus to extraversal
0:20 You said gods 3 times
Ngl, I do agree with some of this.
But I still have some questions.
Aren't Fire Emblem characters, and Minecraft Steve are like.. country to moon level?
Minecraft Steve is literally boundless
@@dinnerlord65
Boundless because of the Player. At least in normal Minecraft, the Steve we use in Smash is based on is vanilla Survival Mode Steve. Wich means, bro is at least city level of AP and Durability.
Fire emblem has bs magic to it. If I am right Marth has the ability to control your mind with his sword and Robin can predict the future and create what he needs to with his magic cause he can guarantee that prep time. Fire emblem got that Dr.Strange level of BS.
Logically, when entering the smash bros universe, everyone goes to equal power due to balancing, meaning if Goku goes against the best recoverer and combo stringer, he’s cooked, but realistically Goku solos mostly everyone where.
Start of video: only 3 characters have the lore feats to even contend with goku, Kirby, sonic, and bayonetta.
End of video: oh we're just doing crazy feats here, haha. Very entertaining on some of these scales.
@@LiquidNeon00 the dream stone was downplayed my guy in lore it stated to be filled with all dreams which we see just from the Mario world and outer space there possibly millions to billions to trillions of people
With it being confirmed ghosts can dream
Dreams are stated in lore to be entire universes
31:27 To be fair, you could high ball Incineroar to be relative or at worse 1/6th the AP of Solgaleo/Lunala, Base Necrozma, and Ultra Necrozma in the events of SM & USUM.
Island Level Minecraft does exist via The Wretched Wraith from Minecraft Dungeons.
You can get him to multiversal-multiversal+ due to being able to carry stacks of chests filled with stacks of packed ice with has multiple blocks of water within it, just 1 is infinite and so is universal in mass at least and then you can scale his AP to this as he can still hit at the same speed which would utilize his kinetic energy or just hitting mobs with the chests themselves getting him comfortably in the multiversal+ range
@@brothsipper-h5oholding just two water buckets means Steve can hold infinite matter. You need to be durable enough to withstand your own strength so… Steve solos.
The stuff Steve carries literally becomes featherless
And Creative mode Steve can still die to the void and a potion.
Steve is an overwanked fodder
@@Chill-Noob1 he is holding the two buckets in his hands, left and right. Two water buckets can make infinite water. Therefore he can hold infinite matter.
Doesn't Goku literally have the excact same arguement as 5D Mario 😭
No
He does but Goji is just gonna ignore it to push his own agenda
5-D mario is lowball, he can get way higher, plus he outhaxes
@@Goji-C In DBS Broly Gogeta and Broly legit transcend the Living World which is 4D so it would put em at 5D
@@citrusreality64 I'm not saying Goku beats Mario I'm just saying that the ends Goji used are also ends similar to Goku's
Forget the other like 88 characters, Goku needs to get past Kirby first.
8:37 Freezing stars is just multi-continental? Being able to freeze an entire Star should be at LEAST large planet to multi-planetary in AP
Could be dwarf stars also freezing < creating/destroying
Olimar got this im sure
@@WaddleWhite-r8w I mean he has a star destroying laser so he could one shot saiyan saga Goku
yes
Nah, bro, Goku loses to Duck Hunt cuz Goku ain't ruthless enough to hurt a lil puppy 😢 He'd just pet him and walk away 😂
That, plus the mysterious gunner would just shoot Goku, killing him.
@@andytaker3073 I'm pretty sure, Goku is immune to bullets.
@@CuteRedPanda64 Not if he is caught off guard since a laser killed him.
@@andytaker3073 a laser and a bullet are two different things.
@@CuteRedPanda64 The point is if he is caught off guard, Goku can die. Especially if the attack was from a light gun.
Mewtwo does have multi scaling via The legends mobile game and ultra sun and moons team Rainbow Rocket. Basically it's a group of ALL the Team Leaders up to that point. And Giovanni is the leader and stated to be the strongest, with his ace being Mewtwo...this includes Cyrus and his Dialga mind you. It's debatable but still neat.
Kirby would destroy Goku more times than he could possibly imagine
36-minute video asking if Goku can beat Kirby, Bayonetta, and Palutena
Be honest i would really want to see goku in super smash bros