Everyone is mad at Mojang ... for the 1000th time.

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  • @CraftyMasterman
    @CraftyMasterman 11 месяцев назад +7699

    To clear up a few things from this video. Odd gt dealys were still possible before copper bulb but they were bigger and clunky. They either involved pistons (which take 3gt) leaves or scaffolding.
    However, on bedrock edition, redstone only runs on 10 tps (even the odd gt things i mentioned above) so it is impossible to get odd delays on bedrock. There is a running theory that me and the technical community believe that the main reason the bulb got updated to be instant rather than have a 1gt delay was because of bedrocks inability to handle odd delay. Mojangs approch to parity is to just make all the new features "similar enough" and ignore the actual root problems of parity, one of them being bedrocks literal half speed redstone.
    Also Crafty Crafter Counter mentioned LOL

    • @CrabO2
      @CrabO2 11 месяцев назад +780

      Bundles and now redstone got scrapped because they don't know how to fix bedrock, damn

    • @blacksmith2479
      @blacksmith2479 11 месяцев назад +75

      Thank you for explaining this in a bit more detail.

    • @TheAuthorStudios
      @TheAuthorStudios 11 месяцев назад +528

      so, in short:
      Bedrock edition was a mistake

    • @mindset2047
      @mindset2047 11 месяцев назад +123

      ​@@TheAuthorStudioswhy bedrock edition cant have same features as Java? Ik it is coded different but we still can have Java features in bedrock but mojang is lazy to do stuff I guess,

    • @supercyclone8342
      @supercyclone8342 11 месяцев назад +406

      ​@@mindset2047As a programmer, my guess is that Bedrock has messy code and bad tools. That can lead to simple changes breaking the entire code base, so Mojang opted to just remove the 1 tick instead of completely rewriting Bedrock.
      On one hand that's practical in this case, but on the other... THIS KEEPS HAPPENING! However, I'm pretty sure they mentioned that they're working on parity tools at Minecraft Live so maybe one day Bedrock will stop being a hindrance to Java and Java can get a better Wither fight.

  • @augustofilosi4706
    @augustofilosi4706 11 месяцев назад +15332

    The problem with this consistency thing is: how are people gonna find new and unique uses for these blocks if they behave exactly like other blocks? We dont want "consistent" blocks, we want unique blocks that unlock new possibilities

    • @Another_El_User
      @Another_El_User 11 месяцев назад +1409

      The 1 tick delay was so good, those who built PC's on Minecraft were going to create a next Gen of processors with that

    • @petervarga2399
      @petervarga2399 11 месяцев назад +998

      And the worst part about them saying it cuz of "consistency" is that they aren't even consistent

    • @Limrasson
      @Limrasson 11 месяцев назад +391

      THe quality of the sandbox is determined by the sand and the tools you have at your disposal.

    • @DotKom01
      @DotKom01 11 месяцев назад +674

      ​​@@petervarga2399yeah if they're gonna bitch about consistency they have to fix bedrock redstone because that shit is everything BUT consistent

    • @HonestAuntyElle
      @HonestAuntyElle 11 месяцев назад +159

      The crafter change makes me sad, because it was super good for crafting dispensers.
      But the copper bulb one needs to change. Having lighting updates on something so revolutionary is a nightmare. Useful redstone needs more emphasis on not having lighting updates. Wires emitting light was a mistake.
      They need *something else* that can do 1GT delay

  • @kramkrum3672
    @kramkrum3672 11 месяцев назад +3351

    Mojang: "Minecraft is a game for people of all ages!"
    Community: *provides detailed feedback and suggestions to help improve the game*
    Also Mojang: "It's just a children's game, bro"

    • @EmperorPenguin1217
      @EmperorPenguin1217 11 месяцев назад +307

      Yes, people say "Why do you care, it's a children's game" when you criticize bad decisions
      When you can just ask them if it's just a kids game then why do you like it?

    • @dementionalpotato
      @dementionalpotato 11 месяцев назад +26

      Surely mojang actually expressed this opinion and this comment is not just drivel.

    • @kramkrum3672
      @kramkrum3672 11 месяцев назад +98

      @@dementionalpotato Lately my ass has been leaking brown fluid while I sleep, and when I wake up it smells horrible. Do you know how I can fix it?????

    • @Zreaunes-SpadesOfReality759
      @Zreaunes-SpadesOfReality759 11 месяцев назад +32

      @@kramkrum3672I’m pretty sure that would be called diarrhea. If it’s happening during your sleep it may have something to do with whatever you may be eating. Other than that I have no clue.

    • @watcherknight5938
      @watcherknight5938 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@kramkrum3672my bad

  • @hibilbo4755
    @hibilbo4755 11 месяцев назад +2792

    Crazy to me that mojang sees the entire redstone community get really hyped for a new block and their first thought is "OH GOD GO BACK GO BACK"

    • @kuma_score7536
      @kuma_score7536 11 месяцев назад +149

      they're scared of what the community can do with their smarts

    • @broor
      @broor 11 месяцев назад +9

      The twice as fast sand machine still has 1 tick delays tho? Just remove every other piston

    • @xenird
      @xenird 11 месяцев назад +57

      @@broor it's 2 tick delay

    • @broor
      @broor 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@xenird then it wouldnt move twice as fast though

    • @magatmilan8925
      @magatmilan8925 11 месяцев назад +20

      ​​@@xenird@broor it's 0 tick delay. No delay at all. Not from the copper bulbs at least

  • @Sphurcle
    @Sphurcle 11 месяцев назад +6768

    Mojang: Asks for community feedback
    Community: Gives feedback
    Mojang: >:(

    • @TedSh
      @TedSh 11 месяцев назад +55

      ​@@plagueking6559You're really comparing a whale with a mouse..

    • @plagueking6559
      @plagueking6559 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@TedSh yeah true but hey

    • @uberculex
      @uberculex 11 месяцев назад +91

      How it really went:
      Mojang: Asks for community feedback
      Community: >:(
      Mojang hasn't even had a chance to respond yet... This is only on the latest snapshot.

    • @ssjcrafter8842
      @ssjcrafter8842 11 месяцев назад +319

      @@uberculex except they already saw the positive feedback to 1 tick delay? and also except mojang doesn't listen to feedback, as we saw with chat reporting?

    • @Newpant
      @Newpant 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@JackWilkebot

  • @SeeKnee-snitch
    @SeeKnee-snitch 11 месяцев назад +2393

    mojang two years earlier: "we won't make iron rust like copper because we want every feature to have a unique mechanic"
    mojang now: "this new redstone block has a unique mechanic so we are going to strip it away for consistency"

    • @a_soulspark
      @a_soulspark 11 месяцев назад +348

      ngl, the one thing Mojang is consistent at consists of its inconsistency with regards to inconsistencies in the game

    • @torterra1826
      @torterra1826 11 месяцев назад +11

      Raid Mojat

    • @kenos911
      @kenos911 11 месяцев назад +79

      My theory is because they can’t get a 1t delay to work properly in bedrock edition, and the bug report is unrelated to the action problem

    • @BlueTable-t6k
      @BlueTable-t6k 11 месяцев назад

      Are they having managment changes or smth? Feel like their getting dumber and dumber with each year

    • @pijacklin9405
      @pijacklin9405 11 месяцев назад +12

      its copper it had to be stripped its it's whole gimmick

  • @elderfrost9892
    @elderfrost9892 11 месяцев назад +956

    if they don't revert this change, I feel like 1 gt copper bulbs are going to quickly become another almost standard vanilla tweaks mod
    it 100% will be a setting in carpet at least

    • @tripdrakony869
      @tripdrakony869 11 месяцев назад +189

      leave it to modders to fix what mojang messed up

    • @NerdTheDemon
      @NerdTheDemon 11 месяцев назад +30

      ​@@tripdrakony869Create mod fixed cogs, and now Quark 2 will fix copper bulb

    • @dmwanderer9454
      @dmwanderer9454 11 месяцев назад +31

      ​@@tripdrakony869if you don't play Minecraft with mods you're making a mistake. Modders are the real devs

    • @timtim6373
      @timtim6373 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@dmwanderer9454which sucks cause the more they update the game the more mods become fractured

    • @pbjcake9567
      @pbjcake9567 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@tripdrakony869 Mojang becomes more and more like Bethesda every year, broken promises that modders have to fix themselves

  • @ruthiewitter569
    @ruthiewitter569 11 месяцев назад +1849

    I’m not a redstone player, BUT, I recognize the immense genius and ingenuity they possess. I am deeply frustrated this incredible power was taken away from them.

    • @ShockInazuma
      @ShockInazuma 11 месяцев назад +21

      I almost wonder if this could make flying machines faster…

    • @Contraption8or
      @Contraption8or 11 месяцев назад

      @@ShockInazuma It could, if the fastest flying machines weren't already at max speed.

    • @Bunny_Bill
      @Bunny_Bill 11 месяцев назад +39

      Same here. I know nothing about redstone, but after Phoenix's example, I'm angry such a revolutionary mechanic was taken away.

    • @hamizannaruto
      @hamizannaruto 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@Contraption8orTho I guess it could be smaller!

    • @kelpermoon23
      @kelpermoon23 11 месяцев назад +1

      thank god, it would have made many features redundant and caused massive performance issues all because "machine cool tho"

  • @ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123
    @ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 11 месяцев назад +870

    Mojang has really taken a down turn lately. If the Copper Bulb thing happened with another block in 2012, they would've kept it, and made it into a feature. Heck, that's being a little rude even, because a similar thing happened with the Target Block with it interacting with Redstone in an unintended way and they kept it.
    There was absolutely Zero reason to change this. None.

    • @joebykaeby
      @joebykaeby 11 месяцев назад +61

      It’s not Mojang, it’s the oversight from Microsoft. Same thing has happened to MtG since Hasbro acquired Wizards. The people who know how to make the game are forced to take stupid instructions from people who don’t and have to just make the best they can out of it.

    • @julianpottermusic
      @julianpottermusic 11 месяцев назад +177

      ⁠​⁠@@joebykaebyIt’s not Microsoft. They usually give their acquisitions a lot of free rein in how they work on their games. And regardless, Microsoft wouldn’t be worried about ‘block consistency’ and random redstone stuff anyways, *if* they were gonna get involved with anything it would be with Minecraft’s monetization

    • @jtucehok
      @jtucehok 11 месяцев назад +10

      It's not mojang if they aren't making another controvercial change that wasn't even that necessary.

    • @joebykaeby
      @joebykaeby 11 месяцев назад +26

      @@julianpottermusic Microsoft is definitely not making decisions about block timings or game specifics, but they are deciding who’s in charge of what, the things that they are and aren’t allowed to do, when they have to release things by, and what the constraints are for budget and scope.

    • @Random_Person.-.
      @Random_Person.-. 11 месяцев назад +71

      @@joebykaebyCope its Mojang. The only thing Microsoft cares about is the games monetization and the whole Microsoft account thing. This is all Mojang

  • @EpicPuffwing
    @EpicPuffwing 11 месяцев назад +3554

    Mojang: “you like this, redstone engineers?”
    Redstone engineers: “yeah, we really do, actually!”
    Mojang: “well you can’t have it.”
    Redstone engineers: “Wait wha-“

    • @Lurcays
      @Lurcays 11 месяцев назад +48

      They indirectly don't hear our opinions

    • @FenLupimo
      @FenLupimo 11 месяцев назад +267

      @@Lurcays indirectly? they straight up don't care

    • @Sandstheskeleton
      @Sandstheskeleton 11 месяцев назад +10

      Monjang

    • @torterra1826
      @torterra1826 11 месяцев назад +10

      Raid Mojang

    • @mickys8065
      @mickys8065 11 месяцев назад +84

      They did the exact same with the infinite dimensions and vote April fools updates. They make some of the greatest content, just to go "haha, fuck you. Also we're banning you from single player now."

  • @holmat1
    @holmat1 11 месяцев назад +1587

    It would be a good idea if the copper bulbs would change the tick speed depending on how oxydized they are.

    • @eliescobis9922
      @eliescobis9922 11 месяцев назад +516

      nah that would be too hard for mojang indie studio, remember we minecraft fans have no standards and we eat up every slop that mojang throws at us

    • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
      @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV 11 месяцев назад +95

      I think it's a great idea! However unlikely.

    • @plagueking6559
      @plagueking6559 11 месяцев назад +29

      @@eliescobis9922 nah I found the modern update better then the past Minecraft update like 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, 1.5, 1.6, 1.10, 1.12 & 1.15

    • @witherschat
      @witherschat 11 месяцев назад +40

      I was wondering if it could be done with block states only, and then I remembered about the repeater. I hope we at least get a mod that does it.

    • @alexsiemers7898
      @alexsiemers7898 11 месяцев назад

      @@eliescobis9922then why the fuck are you still here? Does the game’s EULA say you’re supposed to keep playing the game forever or something?

  • @donnydew0325
    @donnydew0325 11 месяцев назад +90

    seeing it flow one block at a time made me so happy, then it made my head hurt seeing 2 at a time 😭

  • @Mateo-zi8ub
    @Mateo-zi8ub 11 месяцев назад +390

    8:32 Hey, it's me!
    Small correction: 1 tick delay was possible before the bulb, using scaffolding or leaves, but those methods where a bit inconvenient. The bulb made everything easier.

    • @Crebs2
      @Crebs2 11 месяцев назад +6

      nice

    • @vectome9360
      @vectome9360 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@JackWilke Who asked + hate about it + go touch some grass

    • @IC-23
      @IC-23 11 месяцев назад +30

      We know but it's entirely illogical from an outsiders perspective trying to understand redstone and they were also relatively large where copper bulbs had all the functionality in 1 block allowing for extremely compact 1 tick delays

    • @Henrex2000
      @Henrex2000 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@vectome9360what?

    • @Mateo-zi8ub
      @Mateo-zi8ub 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@IC-23Exactly!

  • @TheBcoolGuy
    @TheBcoolGuy 11 месяцев назад +351

    I know for a fact I heard a Minecraft RUclipsr describe these blocks, why they're so huge for redstone, and that 'These are perfect. These don't need to be changed at all.' before this ridiculous snapshot came out.

  • @uonia
    @uonia 11 месяцев назад +377

    Honestly I don't mind the crafter getting a delay added to it, I feel like in it's previous state it was a bit over powered. They should not have changed the copper bulb though. There were so many interesting uses for it and the possibility that this comes from an avoidance of fixing deep rooted issues in Bedrock is frustrating.

    • @durandle9226
      @durandle9226 11 месяцев назад +32

      "fixing deep rooted issues in Bedrock"
      you mean optimizations
      as that is probably the root of that limitation

    • @HydratedBeans
      @HydratedBeans 11 месяцев назад +20

      Who cares if it was overpowered? It was fun, just leave it

    • @Charnutboy
      @Charnutboy 11 месяцев назад +7

      The old crafter was an excellent tick counter among other things. Now we don't have that function anymore

    • @packwolf445
      @packwolf445 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@durandle9226 not just optimization, the game is so broken on a fundamental level - I've never had issues with minecraft crashing until they moved from console-specific version to the bedrock network. I've Uninstalled it from both my phone and my consoles. And ofc, it's also super poorly optimized, AND ITS LESS GRAPHICALLY INTENSIVE THAN EVERY OTHER GAME I PLAY
      I can play Dayz on my old ass Ps4 with 40+ zombies and plenty of players around, with the only limitation being the garbage console servers. But I'll lag loading a chunk in mc

    • @typhoon1575
      @typhoon1575 11 месяцев назад +2

      It wasn't over powered before.
      That's a fundamentally bad take

  • @perxivul
    @perxivul 11 месяцев назад +655

    I feel like the trill that's possible due to the 1-tick copper bulbs is a really sick application to this mechanic. Note block map makers could really benefit from this, but of course Mojang won't let us have fun in our own way

    • @Feeeeeeenix
      @Feeeeeeenix 11 месяцев назад +16

      oh yea it makes it so much less complicated to make 20hz accurate timings

    • @rollo2007
      @rollo2007 11 месяцев назад

      That isbaxualy a turn not trill

    • @Pleshie
      @Pleshie 11 месяцев назад +13

      Of course mojang won’t let you have fun your own way. What do you think this is? A sandbox game?

    • @shrouddreamer
      @shrouddreamer 11 месяцев назад +4

      Note blocks are honestly one of the coolest concepts in the game. I just wished they had a UI to set the pitch.
      All of this clicking (and checking via F3, *and* comparing the values from it with the pitch table on the Wiki) makes it really tedious to create something, even if you're just copying sheet music.

    • @just-a-fnf-fan
      @just-a-fnf-fan 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@PleshieI’m scared to reply to this because I might get wooshed

  • @DeltonAdamsLEGO
    @DeltonAdamsLEGO 11 месяцев назад +1136

    Im just confused as to why Mojang would make an almost perfect item from the start, allowing for game-changing mechanics, only to change them and make literally everyone mad.

    • @DigitalWolverine
      @DigitalWolverine 11 месяцев назад +265

      It’s because of a single “bug” report that complained the copper bulb operated faster than droppers/hoppers. Some moron made this report and mojang paid attention to it instead of the overwhelmingly positive response to the bulbs behavior.

    • @mindset2047
      @mindset2047 11 месяцев назад +88

      ​@@DigitalWolverinehonestly who tf was it and why it bothered him/her

    • @Henrex2000
      @Henrex2000 11 месяцев назад +93

      Because "bedrock parity"

    • @JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia
      @JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia 11 месяцев назад

      Because they are paycheck thiefs with ZERO TALENT

    • @MeltyNote
      @MeltyNote 11 месяцев назад +25

      @@mindset2047Jipesnl because they think crafter blocks should be consistent with all redstone ticks

  • @LocalChaos-8217
    @LocalChaos-8217 11 месяцев назад +470

    I love how the community is finally starting to stand up for itself (ex: the mob vote) and mojang is just confused as why their community isn’t picture perfect 💀

    • @citronime
      @citronime 11 месяцев назад +83

      Mojang devs when the rlly cool addition is actually liked by the community:
      The minecraft community when the things they liked and have been showcased wasn’t added (fireflies/rigged mobvotes)

    • @cherricake1796
      @cherricake1796 11 месяцев назад +7

      #DownWithMojang

    • @cherricake1796
      @cherricake1796 11 месяцев назад +14

      #StopTheMobVote

    • @jacobmatthews7524
      @jacobmatthews7524 11 месяцев назад +63

      how long before Mojang starts calling the players "a vocal minority" and "toxic fans"

    • @NerdTheDemon
      @NerdTheDemon 11 месяцев назад +16

      ​@@jacobmatthews7524If Mojang publicly smack-talks their own community, I would definitely think of them more highly than I do right now. That's hilarious.

  • @wadewhat7365
    @wadewhat7365 11 месяцев назад +1749

    mojang: we want you using redstone in ways that we didnt intend for
    the redstone community: does exactly that
    mojang: D:

    • @AquaQuokka
      @AquaQuokka 11 месяцев назад +8

      Damn

    • @plagueking6559
      @plagueking6559 11 месяцев назад +9

      Minecraft community try not use Mojang on every joke: 😖

    • @thesaltyduckling80
      @thesaltyduckling80 11 месяцев назад +175

      @@plagueking6559it’s hard not to use mojang as a joke when they’ve been running things like a circus for as long as they have. If anything they themselves are the joke

    • @plagueking6559
      @plagueking6559 11 месяцев назад +9

      @@thesaltyduckling80 idk I have seen the community just as bad as Mojang most of the time

    • @playbabethebookshelf6249
      @playbabethebookshelf6249 11 месяцев назад +85

      @@plagueking6559yeah like, how dare you complain

  • @dogemanbacon
    @dogemanbacon 11 месяцев назад +325

    it's literally mojang not understanding their own invention lol

    • @Goofy_Ah_Being_15
      @Goofy_Ah_Being_15 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@JackWilkeagain, we need more context

  • @tisibutasimplechocopancook7923
    @tisibutasimplechocopancook7923 11 месяцев назад +1787

    real talk: does anyone have any idea why mojang keeps doing this? i genuinely can't think of a way that constantly doing the OPPOSITE of what the community wants can be beneficial. it's not like they're being lazy or anything, they are *going out of their way* to update things in a way nobody wants.
    edit: hey guys, i understand everyone's frustrated with the new updates, but maybe chill out a bit? it's okay to be upset, but calling the developers "psychopaths" and "morons" is a bit much.

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 11 месяцев назад

      Devs are shitty

    • @thahoule7924
      @thahoule7924 11 месяцев назад +672

      completely out of touch. it seems like they WANT minecraft to be purely a kids game. just look at the way they speak in every minecraft live or other vids - they are CONSTANTLY talking like they would to a 5 year old. the fact that lots and lots of adults play the game, and almost all of the endgame features and redstone overall are only used by adults, is something they seemingly dont understand

    • @TheCommenterSam
      @TheCommenterSam 11 месяцев назад +252

      It feels like genuine malice on Mojang’s part at this rate.

    • @steveharveysmustache3988
      @steveharveysmustache3988 11 месяцев назад +314

      I feel like they most likely see us now as “just dumb consumers that don’t know what they actually want so we’ll show them” it’s like a parent ignoring their kid because they think they know what’s best for them even if all the kid wants is something to eat

    • @airyonbeck379
      @airyonbeck379 11 месяцев назад +139

      ​​​@@thahoule7924 This right here. They are probably _creeped out_ by the fact that adults play their game, and even more when adults complain to them about the features

  • @NicknotNak
    @NicknotNak 11 месяцев назад +1411

    Ive been saying that the only "style" of minecraft player the recent updates have been geared towards is the adventurers and builders. I was so happy to see the redstoners finally getting a good few features, and having one of the two revolutionary blocks: the first big redstone revolution since honey blocks, be nerfed to hell is heartbreaking. Let us little technical/industrial players have our fun too!
    Edit: im not saying that the updates have been _good_ but they are meant for builders and adventurers. Even if they fail to address problems or bloat their playstyle.

    • @heydud6777
      @heydud6777 11 месяцев назад +150

      honestly, as a builder, I find more decorative and building blocks to be a bit overwhelming. It's a lot easier to pick 5 blocks out of 100 than 5 out of 300. I find the new updates are more pivoted towards those who like adventures, which almost no one likes doing or gets bored after 10 minutes of doing. I think the problem is Mojang is running out of good ideas and is just throwing random crap out there whether people like it or not.

    • @scarecrowhobo
      @scarecrowhobo 11 месяцев назад +35

      ​@@heydud6777ironic too considering they have more than enough ideas to make 3 updates worth

    • @nvvv_
      @nvvv_ 11 месяцев назад +98

      As an adventurer... Why bother exploring. The loot in most structures is pretty much worthless. Once you have a villager hall (or several now with the new changes) and some mob grinders, the game is a joke. There's no reason to adventure because after the mid game there's nothing left to really find.

    • @Myne1001
      @Myne1001 11 месяцев назад +4

      I'd disagree. Plenty of new mechanics for farmers to utilize in the last few updates. This is just a really bizarre blunder on Mojang's part.

    • @vanzwho854
      @vanzwho854 11 месяцев назад +9

      As a builder, the copper bulb is ugly I haven't thought of one use for it

  • @Acudit
    @Acudit 11 месяцев назад +1333

    If Mojang has made the blocks work this way from the start, people wouldn't be mad. But people are now furious that they were given something so much more useful, just for the versatility of it to be removed.
    Mojang did this when they teased the fireflies and birch biome changes, just to say no.
    They have to learn to not make promises they can't (or won't in this case) keep.
    I know snapshots are not promises. It is just an expression.
    Edit: To all the people saying "But it is a snapshot, and Mojang says nothing in snapshots are set in stone" true, but it being a snapshot does not justify making something good, just for them to change it to make it definitively worse. Snapshots are made to let the community give feedback on stuff, and then help improve it. So here is my feedback. It would be better for this change to be reverted.
    To the repliers: Guys. Chill. It is just an opinion that this reversion is unwanted by the community. I don't need to hear "but Mojang can do it if they want" again. Of course they can. Doesn't mean we have to like it though.

    • @LineOfThy
      @LineOfThy 11 месяцев назад +21

      I agree with y’all but they never promised they would keep the one tick functionality

    • @Acudit
      @Acudit 11 месяцев назад +181

      @@LineOfThy By putting it in the game, they made it accessible to people, just to turn around and remove it.
      They may not have verbally promised, but they demonstrated what they were gonna do, then undid it.
      It is like pretending to hand a dog a treat just to take it away.

    • @megaing1322
      @megaing1322 11 месяцев назад +28

      @@Acudit They *explicitly* said that the behavior is not guaranteed to stay.

    • @alexsiemers7898
      @alexsiemers7898 11 месяцев назад +18

      @@Acuditthat’s why these are snapshots rather than proper updates

    • @holdengohs6997
      @holdengohs6997 11 месяцев назад +115

      @@megaing1322they also explicitly said that they will look for and react to community feedback.

  • @aetheralmeowstic2392
    @aetheralmeowstic2392 11 месяцев назад +1063

    Honestly, I feel like someone should step in and _force_ Mojang to keep the 1 tick delay on copper bulbs

    • @ShiroCh_ID
      @ShiroCh_ID 11 месяцев назад +167

      this is why i love java, if something doesnt match what we wants someone possibly already made the mods or even datapacks to revert it back

    • @durandle9226
      @durandle9226 11 месяцев назад +15

      who?

    • @uliveulearnandregret
      @uliveulearnandregret 11 месяцев назад +20

      honestly giving people enough time to show cool contraptions people could have made with the copper bulb would have probably egged on mojang to keep the change instead of changing it without telling anyone

    • @Theearthisround69
      @Theearthisround69 11 месяцев назад +38

      That, my good sir, would require a gun, mask and 100lbs of c4 (optional)

    • @r00kiet80
      @r00kiet80 11 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@uliveulearnandregretthat already happend tho lol

  • @_thirtyseven
    @_thirtyseven 11 месяцев назад +561

    I spent 6+ hours designing my first 2-block-wide hidden staircase that fits into a 12x5x5 space and has a symmetrical opening without the use of slime and honey blocks. I’m really proud of the fact that I was able to put the copper bulbs to good use, but now? Completely useless. But to be honest, I’m not at all that surprised Mojang pulled the plug.
    edit: redesigned it and it'll now work in the newer snapshots. I've also touched grass as well so yeah I'm not really annoyed at Mojang anymore.

    • @halfgoodexe
      @halfgoodexe 11 месяцев назад +43

      Mojave

    • @cor3po491
      @cor3po491 11 месяцев назад +91

      Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

    • @dukecocko215
      @dukecocko215 11 месяцев назад +1

      everyone keeps dying in mine craft this is a si op

    • @Egg_Maniac
      @Egg_Maniac 11 месяцев назад +11

      ​@@cor3po491 we won't go quietly, Mojang can count on that.

    • @3riormrsup
      @3riormrsup 11 месяцев назад +3

      Please don't complain. You know fully well that Mojang changes a lot of stuff in the snapshots. That's on you for building in a constantly changing and unreleased update.

  • @GamerX-2000
    @GamerX-2000 11 месяцев назад +545

    Consistency is exactly what the community DOESNT want! The more consistent, the less options.

    • @cewla3348
      @cewla3348 11 месяцев назад +13

      redstone SHOULD be a barely-functional mess! every single block SHOULD have its own purpose!

    • @IRanOutOfPhrases
      @IRanOutOfPhrases 11 месяцев назад +1

      This isnt what consistency means at all

    • @JesusIsKingMyLord
      @JesusIsKingMyLord 11 месяцев назад

      Gospel of Jesus Christ John 3:16 For God So loved the world that he gave his only Begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not Perish but have Everlasting Life. Jesus Christ Died for the sin of the World, If you believe in ur heart God risen Jesus from the dead and confess him with ur mouth to people you shall be saved. Jesus said I Am The only way to heaven there is no other way! Repent of urs sins (Repent means Change ur Mind turning away from sinful things and being truly sorry for it.) trust Jesus and give ur life to him He Loves you cares about you more than anyone ever will! we are saved By Grace Trough Faith!,this is sin: Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift of eternal life in our Lord Jesus Christ. Romans 3:23 For all have sined and felt short of the Glory of God. For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Romans 1:18‭-‬21‭, ‬23 KJV Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9‭-‬10 REPENT OR YOU WILL PERISH REPENT AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL GET RIGHT WITH GOD LORD JESUS CHRIST.///////

    • @kairon5249
      @kairon5249 11 месяцев назад +5

      see when mojang says "consistency" they dont mean "consistency with other blocks" but instead "consistency with BEDROCK EDITION."
      bedrock runs on 10 tps, so the effect that copper bulbs have that we saw in java isn't possible on bedrock. Instead of uprooting the underlying issue (10tps) mojang decides its a lot easier to simply remove the feature from java.

  • @Torder
    @Torder 11 месяцев назад +800

    I love how Mojang never fails to disappoint their audience ❤

    • @CF-3300
      @CF-3300 11 месяцев назад +17

      How does disappointing people even benefit them?

    • @TheCommenterSam
      @TheCommenterSam 11 месяцев назад +37

      @@CF-3300 Negative attention? As much as “no such thing as bad publicity” is a thing, that can backfire badly if it also spread bad words of mouth.

    • @am_Nein
      @am_Nein 11 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@CF-3300who said it benefitted them?

    • @Joetoep
      @Joetoep 11 месяцев назад +3

      And still everyone plays the game.

    • @-mako-6018
      @-mako-6018 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@Joetoep that's gaming communities for you, everyone always has something to complain about yet they play the game daily, i mean for fuck's sake, look at COD lmao, those poor bastards have been playing the same reskin for the last 5 years

  • @AquaQuokka
    @AquaQuokka 11 месяцев назад +662

    They really hate it when people want to play how they want, don't they.
    First the report features (don't even get me started on this one), making it so people can't moderate servers how they want.
    Removing references to guns. (Hmmm, what do creepers drop again?)
    And now this. Can't we have any fun?

    • @near5148
      @near5148 11 месяцев назад +125

      Minecraft it feels it's run by karens

    • @Ctacobell
      @Ctacobell 11 месяцев назад

      Microsoft is a bunch of 🤡 🐱 🐱 🐱

    • @toniee98
      @toniee98 11 месяцев назад +53

      I don't think anybody uses the reporting system anyway

    • @Markm8
      @Markm8 11 месяцев назад +15

      They have even removed maps for farms

    • @matthewboire6843
      @matthewboire6843 11 месяцев назад

      We can not

  • @CosyHamster
    @CosyHamster 11 месяцев назад +219

    "Copper Bulbs had added a lot to the game, but they could add a lot more, and some of the hype had been lost."
    Powerful words

  • @gnitsaf
    @gnitsaf 11 месяцев назад +120

    and like always the modding community will pick up where mojang fell short

    • @MariusNinjai
      @MariusNinjai 11 месяцев назад +10

      typical take modding community 1 week while it takes Mojang 1 year to implement simple stuff

  • @horkah6966
    @horkah6966 11 месяцев назад +407

    Mojang: Doesn’t make enough changes in the updates
    Also Mojang: Changes every little thing in the updates making it worse

    • @redwolftrash
      @redwolftrash 11 месяцев назад

      @toetruck1589 what review did the quote come from?

  • @yinleeboon5997
    @yinleeboon5997 11 месяцев назад +284

    Maybe the tick delay should depend on its oxidation state (from 0 with no oxidation to 3 when max oxidation)

    • @joda7697
      @joda7697 11 месяцев назад +79

      I'd honestly prefer if it had no delay for the first 3 oxidization states, but the old 1 gt delay when fully oxidized. That way, contraptions that require tight timings (so the ones that use the 1 gt delay) also cause less light update lag, due to the lower emitted light level.
      But the idea to tie the delay to oxidization is genius, they should totally do that!

    • @legominifig101
      @legominifig101 11 месяцев назад +38

      That’s a really creative and great idea but mojang would probably never even take a second look at their own community❤

    • @aquaticengineer
      @aquaticengineer 11 месяцев назад +6

      Actually a cool idea

    • @Engine1988
      @Engine1988 11 месяцев назад +6

      Now THAT is a good idea!
      It already changes light level due to oxidization, after all!

    • @derianvandalsen
      @derianvandalsen 11 месяцев назад

      Quite a few people here came up with this compromise!

  • @malanok
    @malanok 11 месяцев назад +165

    Next update, all bocks are now consistent with dirt. Any additional functionality like "crafting" was unintentional and will be removed.

  • @Driplim
    @Driplim 11 месяцев назад +275

    This reminds me of how parity (for the most part) is features being removed from one game to match the other. I think mojang should embrace the fact that java and bedrock are different games.

    • @uponeric36
      @uponeric36 11 месяцев назад +40

      I truly believe they're prepping for Minecraft 2. Every other Minecraft branded game as flopped under the Minecraft IP. They need a new, killer release in their core franchise... aka Minecraft 2.
      This could explain why features come so slow to Java. They wanna wrap up and leave the game in a legacy state where it can basically be supported by modders, who have a more efficient development environment anyways, whilst they focus development on MC 2.
      If they added too much to Java now, they'll have less new features on release for Minecraft 2. Imo, they have to be withholding. because making these things isn't magic. The Minecraft director should have a clear vision forward for the game and their tools have been maturing for a decade. The art isn't a limiting factor at 16x16, and it's not like every mob is some completely new system that should take months to test and develop. Basically, they have no barriers, the game was designed intentionally to be easy to add onto, yet development is slow as hell. It's artificially and intentionally limited.

    • @fujinshu
      @fujinshu 11 месяцев назад +23

      They're preparing for the moment where Minecraft Java slowly gets erased and shafted to the legacy channels, then Mojang becomes further and further assimilated into Xbox Game Studios, to the point where it will become wholly published by Xbox Game Studios and the only remnants will be the community and PR arms of Mojang.

    • @AtomicRobloxProductions
      @AtomicRobloxProductions 11 месяцев назад +16

      Then people wonder why everyone hates/thinks shitrock is an inferior version lmao

    • @xenird
      @xenird 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@AtomicRobloxProductions lmao true

    • @Rikonardo
      @Rikonardo 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@uponeric36 while getting Java Edition deprecated would be the best outcome for us, modders, (because we finally wouldn't have to deal with Mojang breaking stuff each update and making code uglier every year), I can hardly believe they will do this any time soon. This would basically require them to write a new game entirely from scratch, because Bedrock Edition has a lot of fundamental problems, and there is no way Java Edition players would voluntarily move to Minecraft 2 without a full (or at least major) rewrite.
      And leaving a big part of Java Edition player base on legacy modders-maintained version isn't in Mojang's interest, because this would significantly reduce hype from official updates, which is currently the main source of new players who buy the game. This may also lead to Mojang losing a lot of control they recently acquired in Java Edition (like chat reporting and other stuff), because without the need to keep compatibility with new official releases, community would probably start developing a fork based on older game version (as most of the updates starting with 1.13 traded a lot of optimizations for more readable and convenient codebase, leading to huge performance decrease, which is why almost all non-SMP servers still run pre-1.13 releases under the hood).
      And having to do a big rewrite raises the question, would it even be profitable? Yes, not having to backport every change from Java to Bedrock would probably cut the development cost, but fixing all Bedrock issues would require a lot of work, and consequentially, money. And giving Java Edition entirely into community hands would probably mean increased spendings on content moderation, because, you know, Mojang needs to keep "caring about their brand image" (aka being assholes) by DMCAing "non-kids-friendly" content and doing other stupid things

  • @slava6105
    @slava6105 11 месяцев назад +274

    23w47a:
    Sorry, our debug-build commands (namely `tick`) were accidentally added to the last few snapshots. We hope none of the players were distracted by them nor experienced any discomfort caused by our mistkae.
    We are *really excited* to bring back the usual player experience.

    • @tachtra994
      @tachtra994 11 месяцев назад +7

      Was that the actual wording they used?

    • @am_Nein
      @am_Nein 11 месяцев назад +12

      "we are really excited to bring back the usual player experience - that is, disappointing, lackluster and frustrating."

  • @Dreig
    @Dreig 11 месяцев назад +69

    they have to make copper bulbs have 1, 2, 3 and 4 ticks delay at the same time, depend of oxidation

    • @Josh-jw3go
      @Josh-jw3go 11 месяцев назад +20

      That's a brilliant solution to this whole problem honestly. And it even makes sense because in real life oxidation increases the resistance in a circuit

    • @herowither12354
      @herowither12354 11 месяцев назад +1

      So, make the old problem worse (the fact that the delay wouldn't be the same on Bedrock)?

    • @mr.cauliflower3536
      @mr.cauliflower3536 11 месяцев назад +14

      @@herowither12354 not my problem, git gud instead of forcing parity of something that wouldn't have parity anyways (redstone)

    • @glowstick8639
      @glowstick8639 11 месяцев назад

      I DON'T CARE ABOUT BEDROCK @@herowither12354

    • @nade5557
      @nade5557 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@herowither12354its not a problem, they are literally 2 separate versions. They are trying to make it a problem

  • @hioman
    @hioman 11 месяцев назад +101

    Mojang trying not to make the worst possible decisions challenge: impossible

  • @aethersword7823
    @aethersword7823 11 месяцев назад +84

    community: please add vertical slabs
    mojang: but it harms creativity
    community: please bring back fireflies
    mojang: but it's poisonous to frogs irl
    community: please make iron rust like copper
    mojang: but each feature needs to be unique
    community: please keep the 1 tick copper bulb
    mojang: but it's inconsistent
    every time we want something, they have to make sure we don't get it, and give us the worst reasons for it

    • @Yipper64
      @Yipper64 11 месяцев назад +21

      dont forget
      community: please add backpacks we cant hold all these new items
      mojang: ok how about bundles that dont increase inventory space but do allow you to combine different items in one slot
      Like even when they *do* actually do something its in this wacky roundabout way that doesnt address the issue. Its the same thing with the mob votes really
      community: please add an item that can extend reach like the create mod
      mojang: ok, but YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR IT.

    • @bruhgod123
      @bruhgod123 11 месяцев назад +10

      this comment explains exactly why i hate mojang

    • @tweetugwe1270
      @tweetugwe1270 11 месяцев назад +24

      The firefly one confused me to no end. Cam't they just, program so the frogs don't eat the fireflies in the first place? Why is that even a valid reason?

    • @wfgjrthwghfwrtj
      @wfgjrthwghfwrtj 11 месяцев назад +17

      I've never understood why "Vertical Slabs Limit Creativity", Like commands allow you to literally create a whole game and features(Not to mention mods) so if slabs limit creativity then why do commands still exists?

    • @aegeangaming8280
      @aegeangaming8280 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@wfgjrthwghfwrtj i personally think they are saying that it harms the modding community because most of the things listed were added in mods,
      it sucks for vanilla players and mod creators who have to work on mods to add this stuff because of mojang's incompetence.

  • @Kabslantivity2000
    @Kabslantivity2000 11 месяцев назад +150

    Every update, Mojang becomes worse and worse as a game dev company, I really hope they revert these extremely stupid changes (Including adding back fireflies), as well as making better decisions in the future

    • @mdbgamer556
      @mdbgamer556 11 месяцев назад +17

      Unfortunately, they lost the brains of the operation. He sold out for 2 billion smackeroos. The game will never be the same again.

    • @dustyrose192
      @dustyrose192 11 месяцев назад +2

      is it mojang or microsoft though? Is it corporate meddling?

    • @baconboi4482
      @baconboi4482 11 месяцев назад +16

      @@dustyrose192it’s definitely gotta be mostly mojang, head did Microsoft won’t care if they don’t add another mob. Since they’ll be able to do it in a work day anyway

    • @klow6685
      @klow6685 11 месяцев назад +16

      No cuz the Firefly thing genuinely was so upsetting. Minecraft desperately needs more ambience and fireflies were perfect. Like how hard is it for them to just program the toads to not eat the fireflies....

    • @chhabraishan
      @chhabraishan 11 месяцев назад +5

      Almost all of my friends who were casual solo survival players quit the game cause of the villager nerf, i play on 1.16 and 1.19 and once i beat the dragon on both these versions and get all achievements ill quit too :)

  • @aa1_scratch_tutorials202
    @aa1_scratch_tutorials202 11 месяцев назад +84

    mojang: *adds something new*
    everyone: *likes it*
    mojang: *NO*

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser 11 месяцев назад

      Nope

    • @Shy_002
      @Shy_002 11 месяцев назад

      @@CheeseMiserHey kid go back to sucking on your pacifier or add an actual meaningful argument other than “No”

  • @GipsyD29
    @GipsyD29 11 месяцев назад +104

    If the copper bulbs were always this way (0 tick delay?) to begin with, most people won't bat an eye. But since they made it how it was (1 tick delay), players got a taste of what that feels like. And a lot of people like it. And now it's taken away. And people riot. Mojang aimed a gun at their own the foot for making the bulbs 1 tick delay to begin with. And with this snapshot, they've shot themselves on the foot.
    Like giving a candy to a child, then swiping it after the child had a lick. Of course it would cry.

    • @Yipper64
      @Yipper64 11 месяцев назад +1

      And as well all know fandoms are very much like children.

    • @rheatinacreatishia7636
      @rheatinacreatishia7636 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Yipper64 We are all children of God

    • @Yipper64
      @Yipper64 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@rheatinacreatishia7636 Ok I make a lot of religious comments so when I saw this notification I naturally assumed it was in one of those comment sections where I brought it up...
      but no freaking block game.
      Yes true, but how is this relevant?

    • @rheatinacreatishia7636
      @rheatinacreatishia7636 11 месяцев назад

      @@Yipper64 Think about it

  • @Kenya_Berry
    @Kenya_Berry 11 месяцев назад +37

    Advantage of copper bulb: less laggy redstone lights
    Design advantage: you can have your lights “go out” over time, giving the artistic builders something

  • @raxcentalruthenta1456
    @raxcentalruthenta1456 11 месяцев назад +151

    Its almost like Mojang gets a kick out of pissing off or alienating their playerbase. They just cant help themselves. They just keep doing it and its exhausting at this point.

    • @raxcentalruthenta1456
      @raxcentalruthenta1456 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@JackWilke what?

    • @wrathnmalice
      @wrathnmalice 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@raxcentalruthenta1456 its the average youtube bot, just ignore them

    • @raxcentalruthenta1456
      @raxcentalruthenta1456 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@wrathnmalice ah okay. Guess that explains why the reply felt like it lacked context.

    • @Tocinos
      @Tocinos 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@raxcentalruthenta1456they got yeeted 🧑🏼‍⚖️

    • @alexsiemers7898
      @alexsiemers7898 11 месяцев назад +1

      Or it’s just a sign of how entitled and irritable said playerbase is

  • @lcs128
    @lcs128 11 месяцев назад +123

    I personally don't use redstone but imagine the cool stuff redstoners could have made with this

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser 11 месяцев назад

      🤦‍♂️ the block still is there and does the most important thing. Such an uninformed sheep

    • @kelpermoon23
      @kelpermoon23 11 месяцев назад

      im personally really glad they removed it

    • @Yoob-yh5gb
      @Yoob-yh5gb 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@kelpermoon23why? Theres literally no upside and a ton of downside. All mojang did was show us a new, exciting, different block, then say, “no no, we’re making this less unique. You’ll thank us later.”

    • @kelpermoon23
      @kelpermoon23 11 месяцев назад

      @@Yoob-yh5gb performance

    • @Yoob-yh5gb
      @Yoob-yh5gb 11 месяцев назад +11

      @@kelpermoon23 counterpoint, its harder on your computer to do two things at one then one after another.

  • @amethyst_dawn
    @amethyst_dawn 11 месяцев назад +34

    Oh boy, I sure do love being able to make a piston door that opens with a smooth animation so that I can walk out through my property where I've collected all the mobs they reintroduced from old mob votes, and then walking down to my village to access essential enchants like Mending that took me anywhere from 9-130 hours to get.
    I sure hope I'm not the alternative timeline, and Mojang isn't actively deciding to make the best selling game on the planet worse for every single playstyle.

  • @ARDIZsq
    @ARDIZsq 11 месяцев назад +133

    If I had a nickel for every time Mojang made some god awful decision for this game, I'd probably be able to afford another copy of Minecraft, which is a lot, and is pretty damn sad.

    • @Engine1988
      @Engine1988 11 месяцев назад +1

      If I had a quarter for each time, I could buy the Lionel Triplex!

    • @bruhgod123
      @bruhgod123 11 месяцев назад +20

      mojang doesnt deserve praise for what they do tbh

    • @MaximusChivus
      @MaximusChivus 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@bruhgod123 My greatest praise is at least they're better than valve and blizzard kinda in some ways

    • @bruhgod123
      @bruhgod123 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@MaximusChivus valve isnt even that bad compared to other corporations

    • @blef861
      @blef861 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@MaximusChivusThe bar is really low

  • @colincayden2068
    @colincayden2068 11 месяцев назад +78

    They ***NEED*** to change this back, it's such a cool feature of one tick delay rather than two!

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser 11 месяцев назад +1

      No

    • @ERA_TAKEN
      @ERA_TAKEN 11 месяцев назад +6

      Yeah

    • @nyalan8385
      @nyalan8385 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@CheeseMiserwhy

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser 11 месяцев назад

      @@nyalan8385 because yall acting like children, pouting to try and get your way. You all make hating mojang your personality, such immature brats

  • @Tamarocker88
    @Tamarocker88 11 месяцев назад +81

    Mojang needs to stop making changes that make nobody happy. They don't satisfy the enthusiasts, they don't satisfy the casuals. They should do the math, figure out who takes up the majority of their player base and then satisfy that side.

    • @T3n50r
      @T3n50r 11 месяцев назад +5

      "They should do the math, figure out who takes up the majority of their player base and then satisfy that side." I think that is exactly what they're doing without saying it outright. People that go on RUclips and watch vids/comments isn't a majority of the people that play the game.
      They also take peoples low end/medium end set ups, consoles and so on into consideration. They may also see possibilities with the previous tick delay that can be abused before anyone else does, then do changes before anyone notices and leave it at that in a "whew, community is pissed but crisis averted" kind of way.
      I'm just theorizing now, but it doesn't make sense to spend money and time on "fixing" something the community is hype about if that isn't the case. Either that, or they do this and then change it back a month or two away from the update to be released to keep the hype and talk up for more free PR.

    • @s3rs312
      @s3rs312 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@T3n50r "People that go on RUclips and watch vids/comments isn't a majority of the people that play the game." I doubt that. I don't know where you are from, but Minecraft players I know have internet, and they watch RUclips.
      While RUclipsrs and Enthusiasts are probably not the majority of the player base, they are the one who generates interest for the game. Casual players who play Minecraft will at some point go watch let's plays or tutorials on RUclips. These enthusiasts are the ones utilising the game features to create interesting builds, which helps make Minecraft more enjoyable. I can remember the feeling of watching a tutorial on how to make redstone doors and making one in my own world.
      [edit] the point is, take an interesting feature away, and the fun potential decreases for everyone, both enthusiast and casuals.

  • @Pr0_G4m3r_IOOIIOOIIIOOI
    @Pr0_G4m3r_IOOIIOOIIIOOI 11 месяцев назад +94

    I feel like they could revert the copper bulbs and still keep consistency if they had a logical explanation, like for example: all redstone components that use copper have 1 game tick delays, which would have some logic to it bc of its irl use cases

    • @durandle9226
      @durandle9226 11 месяцев назад +16

      the problem at least in part is bedrock redstone ONLY functions on 10 ticks per second unlike on java that only updates on 10 ticks per second
      aka the pinned comment
      function scrapped for parity
      i guess we are lucky they did not just remove quasi-connectivity

    • @xenird
      @xenird 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@durandle9226 nobody cares about bedrock anyway

    • @Darqshadow
      @Darqshadow 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@xenirdpeople on console who can't afford a half decent PC do. So... shush

    • @xenird
      @xenird 11 месяцев назад

      @@Darqshadow A pc half the price of your console will run Minecraft

  • @chillbizz74
    @chillbizz74 11 месяцев назад +291

    Mojang has transformed into a "AAA" game company so they only fix stuff that doesn't need to be fixed and ends up breaking them for absolutely no reason

  • @willsith9762
    @willsith9762 11 месяцев назад +5

    "Ah fuck they're getting too creative with the new blocks, better dial that shit back!"

  • @lordsiergiej9685
    @lordsiergiej9685 11 месяцев назад +102

    As someone who enjoys music on Minecraft I welcomed copper bulb with a lot of hope. And that presentation of Chopin was exactly what I wanted in Minecraft without data packs

    • @ThePope_francis
      @ThePope_francis 11 месяцев назад +1

      Exactly 100 likes and no replys? Ill fix that.

    • @lordsiergiej9685
      @lordsiergiej9685 11 месяцев назад

      @@ThePope_francis thank you

  • @44Hd22
    @44Hd22 11 месяцев назад +48

    3:14 I don’t really do redstone that much but the copper bulb with a one tick delay looks so fun to use. If they fix that I would maybe do redstone.

  • @dstyKchp
    @dstyKchp 11 месяцев назад +47

    For the past 3 years it feels like mojang shows us something with genuine potential or something that's great and takes it away for a more mediocre item/feature no wonder a large portion of the community doesn't trust them

  • @fluffypawninja7636
    @fluffypawninja7636 11 месяцев назад +78

    on the plus side, there's most likely going to be a mod somewhere that either reverts the change or adds a new block with the *sole purpose* to interact with redstone on a 1tick delay

    • @troll_486
      @troll_486 11 месяцев назад +38

      That's not a plus side
      >Mod still needs to be developed
      >you need extra effort to put it in
      >its foreign anyway and locks out vanilla people of it
      >Mod would revert the state of the game that would be considered "normal' so we gain something but that's not a plus, that's back to neutral

    • @MaxerV19
      @MaxerV19 11 месяцев назад

      You mispelled that

    • @troll_486
      @troll_486 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@MaxerV19 ☝🤓

    • @MaxerV19
      @MaxerV19 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@troll_486 😟

    • @fluffypawninja7636
      @fluffypawninja7636 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@troll_486 yea i shouldn't have said plus side-
      admittedly, i was perhaps a bit too tired to be writing comments yesterday, but i did anyway so...

  • @ignatius1078
    @ignatius1078 11 месяцев назад +79

    I have an idea. they should make the unoxidised copper bulb to have 0 tick delay and as they oxidise they get 1+ tick delay every oxidation level.

    • @SethbotStar
      @SethbotStar 11 месяцев назад +1

      Wouldn't a 0 tick delay literally just crash the game?

    • @JamUsagi
      @JamUsagi 11 месяцев назад +16

      @@SethbotStar There are already a few ways to get 0-tick pulses which are potentially more system-intensive than the bulbs would be, and the game handles them fine unless you do crazy crap with them.

    • @Mad-Lad-Chad
      @Mad-Lad-Chad 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@SethbotStar Apparently not, like shown in the video 0 tick is what they are being changed to.

    • @akeem2983
      @akeem2983 11 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@SethbotStar No, and normal redstone wires also have a 0 tick delay, just like copper bulbs today. Redstoners frequently do work with sub-tick delay, caused not by an actual delay, but by the fact that while the game processes redstone, different blocks of redstone mechanisms are processed in sort of a queue. And that's why the game doesn't crash all of the time when we light up a wire with 0-tick delay - in code it has strict order that the game follows to process redstone, so there's no situations when game can't decide what to do (if there were, redstone would have been pretty crash-inducing)

  • @NathanCotrill
    @NathanCotrill 11 месяцев назад +4

    5:26
    You had the golden opportunity to Rick Roll us.

  • @notbobsaget5192
    @notbobsaget5192 11 месяцев назад +51

    im not a redstoner but they tend to be my favorite MC RUclips channels. I am pissed off for them, All the cool crazy stuff they could have done. lost. I was really excited to see what the technical redstoners were going to pull off.

  • @geokou7645
    @geokou7645 11 месяцев назад +82

    What if we just… mass report it as a bug…

    • @sleepylith
      @sleepylith 11 месяцев назад +10

      exactly

    • @Timer102
      @Timer102 11 месяцев назад +2

      Hmmmm I like it

    • @plutonicattic7995
      @plutonicattic7995 11 месяцев назад +5

      Mojang: makes bot to auto mark anything related to copper bulb tick speed "works as intended" because its mojang

    • @Archrid
      @Archrid 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@plutonicattic7995 So you start rephrasing the reports so they don't get caught by the bot ;)

    • @ssjcrafter8842
      @ssjcrafter8842 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Archrid the bulbs of copper
      copper_bulbs
      block with id ...

  • @bentbliley
    @bentbliley 11 месяцев назад +16

    i'm not a redstoner but i do enjoy the idea of copper bulbs doing something special like 1 tick delays, especially with how they're obtained. it encourages survival redstoners to explore and sharpen their combat skills in order to obtain them. also, it's so nice seeing t flops getting smaller. i think it's gonna stay that way but i wanted to say something about that

  • @Annoyance1969
    @Annoyance1969 11 месяцев назад +52

    4:44 it was possible before to make 1gt delays with scaffolding or leaves, but copper bulbs are just much better at that. Also the bug report is actually a false report that somehow got accepted. The copper bulb will likely be fixed, but it bug report called out inconsistency between the dispenser/dropper and the crafter. They are completely different blocks, and work in different ways. There's no need for consistency between them, but if they were to change the crafter, then maybe make a good change like making it q-c powerable or changing it to ss15

  • @dowen01
    @dowen01 11 месяцев назад +100

    I honestly don't think the change to a crafter is not a bad thing it was a little bit insane how quick it would go, but the copper bulb if they don't revert it it's such a missed opportunity and I don't think anyone's gonna care other than the technical community so you wouldn't even be upsetting the casual player.
    It would be nice to get a "no sorry we wont change it back because..... it would break this that and the other...."

    • @cowhead2856
      @cowhead2856 11 месяцев назад +15

      I think why people are upset about the crafter is because it happened at the same time as the copper bulb changes

    • @GatheredStorm_YT
      @GatheredStorm_YT 11 месяцев назад +12

      Well the technical community was a lot more upset because they were also helpful for the same reasons as the copper bulb such as with things like binary counters or super precise counters as a general

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser 11 месяцев назад

      But 90% of the complaints are from people who wont ever use the copper bulb

    • @ryuined
      @ryuined 11 месяцев назад +9

      i personally dont see the point of the crafter change but yeah it's not important imo. if farmers want faster auto-crafting they can just use multiple so it's pretty negligible. the copper bulb change tho, like bruh

    • @cheddarsunchipsyes8144
      @cheddarsunchipsyes8144 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ryuinedthe crafter could have been used for for way more stuff besides crafting. There are RUclips vids about making super accurate clocks with it and stuff, so much potential

  • @ArchivesofCybertron
    @ArchivesofCybertron 11 месяцев назад +10

    I think regardless of being far more survival oriented, the copper bulb making a red stone contraption more simplified sounds appealing and could bring more people into red stone experimentation.

  • @SirDoodicus
    @SirDoodicus 11 месяцев назад +19

    Ah yes we definitely don’t want more unique ways to use blocks in the block game, we just want nothing to change especially with “major updates” from the smol indie company.

  • @HelloIAmAnExist
    @HelloIAmAnExist 11 месяцев назад +39

    7:45 correction:
    It is now more bulky and difficult than it needs to be. It wasn't revolutionary because it introduced a new possiblity, you could get 1 tick delays through leafstone and scaffolding (and probably more I can't think of rn) but it just made it much more of a hassle than this 1 block solution

    • @Zacvh
      @Zacvh 11 месяцев назад

      Frr

    • @Zacvh
      @Zacvh 11 месяцев назад

      I mean humans are more advanced when we make smaller transistors so it’s the same concept here I think

  • @contomoth6025
    @contomoth6025 11 месяцев назад +7

    making the tick delay based on the oxidation level of the copper bulb would be a fun and engaging way of solving this, atleast imo

  • @52flyingbicycles
    @52flyingbicycles 11 месяцев назад +13

    I think it makes sense to change the crafter to dispenser speed, since it uses a dispenser. But there needs to be a way to 1-tick redstone. If they want the copper bulb to be consistent with redstone lamps, they need another way to get redstone onto one tick

    • @namenloserflo
      @namenloserflo 11 месяцев назад

      It's possible but less compact.
      (2 scaffoldings, one on a trapdoor: if you open the trapdoor the scaffolding changes to it's floating state in 1 game tick)

    • @namenloserflo
      @namenloserflo 11 месяцев назад +2

      The copper bulb block would be soo much more convenient though

  • @iron4537
    @iron4537 11 месяцев назад +6

    5:34 rlly wasnt expecting the best nocturne ever from mr chopin

  • @bogdanbarbu363
    @bogdanbarbu363 11 месяцев назад +11

    The proper solution is NOT to revert the copper bulb but to have the amount of delay be based on the oxidation level. I would propose 0/1/2/3 gt and it somewhat fits in thematically as well because oxidation does have an effect on conductivity in the real world. The thing is, even game tick delays help to avoid synchronization issues in a lot of circuits using T flip-flops and binary counters that would otherwise require workarounds. Odd game ticks are a bit inconvenient to get in some situations and the old copper bulb was very useful here. So I only see this as a way to solve everyone's problems.

  • @nutzerlossprivataccount6586
    @nutzerlossprivataccount6586 11 месяцев назад +17

    Im not a Redstoner, but having Odd-Delays is an Addition that i like. Like the smooth Sand-Circle is so fancy, i can understand that it angers many People. And it makes it easier with the Music-Timing like you shown, i know that you had to build a big Contraption to make such a Timing, or cannot do it. (I cant remember exactly, but i remember that i skipped making Music with Redstone, because of the Timing Issues.)

  • @J4smlne
    @J4smlne 11 месяцев назад +11

    Maybe, to make everyone happy they could make it so depending on the amount of oxidation the copper bulb is the tick delay it slower/faster? That'd actually allow for some pretty cool contraptions.

    • @derianvandalsen
      @derianvandalsen 11 месяцев назад +4

      Imagine your contraption suddenly working differently because of the random decay of such a component (if unwaxed); like locality(?), but somewhat predictable!

  • @frankiecoss7141
    @frankiecoss7141 11 месяцев назад +3

    Having the timer (aka the bulb) being condensed into a single block also means less block updates and thus significantly reduces server load. The impact may not be too apparent initially, but for every circuit that you add with an independent clock the difference becomes very noticeable. This is one of the limitations of making circuits in minecraft and why condensing redstone circuits as much as possible is important.

  • @PhoenixSC
    @PhoenixSC  11 месяцев назад +168

    Looks like we already have a snapshot! Let's see what's happened... www.twitch.tv/phoenixsclive

    • @GoIdskuIl
      @GoIdskuIl 11 месяцев назад +1

      Hello

    • @bottelofwater
      @bottelofwater 11 месяцев назад +3

      Oh no not the bots edit: Nevermind?????

    • @Tocinos
      @Tocinos 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@InstagramUser2🧑🏼‍⚖️see ya never

    • @birdgirl97_2
      @birdgirl97_2 11 месяцев назад +1

      “5 replies” what??

    • @Tocinos
      @Tocinos 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@birdgirl97_2🤭

  • @Captain_Bart_Peterson
    @Captain_Bart_Peterson 11 месяцев назад +153

    Funny thing, there is a high chance that Mojang themselves did the bug reports .

    • @toniee98
      @toniee98 11 месяцев назад +48

      I think you're watching too much history channel

    • @GatheredStorm_YT
      @GatheredStorm_YT 11 месяцев назад +30

      I think you’ve been reading too many conspiracy theories

    • @mymyrrah
      @mymyrrah 11 месяцев назад +7

      I think you’re right

    • @Lemon_Turtle
      @Lemon_Turtle 11 месяцев назад +1

      I think I'm gonna do the moon wall and shout HEHE

    • @AjianAja
      @AjianAja 11 месяцев назад

      I think

  • @oddbluedragon
    @oddbluedragon 11 месяцев назад +42

    if only mojang devs listen to their community like how terraria devs does, im sure minecraft will be awesome

    • @mr.cauliflower3536
      @mr.cauliflower3536 11 месяцев назад +7

      RIGHT?
      Terraria is still getting updates because everyone loves terraria, and relogic can't bring themselves to abandon it.

  • @Pumpkinheadedman
    @Pumpkinheadedman 11 месяцев назад +7

    6:47 phoenix, for clarification, they kept changing the crafter texture because someone (i believe it was ECKOSOILDER) discovered that with the crafter sideways, you could easily make a... certain symbol. may or may not be germany related...

  • @doggo-bn4vg
    @doggo-bn4vg 11 месяцев назад +19

    5:25
    ok but we all thought it was gonna be a rickroll right?

  • @DominicVictoria
    @DominicVictoria 11 месяцев назад +5

    Let’s band together and make a new Minecraft

  • @wither3615
    @wither3615 11 месяцев назад +5

    6:39 i think they changed it because if you place 4 crafters in a certain way it creates a familiar symbol from something in the past...

  • @nikkiofthevalley
    @nikkiofthevalley 11 месяцев назад +23

    If this ends up in the final update, I'm definitely making a mod that reverts the change to the copper bulb.

    • @derianvandalsen
      @derianvandalsen 11 месяцев назад +1

      This will be our Last Airbender movie moment (..what snapshot? It has always worked like this. This is not a mod-)

    • @averonisgaming9023
      @averonisgaming9023 11 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@derianvandalsentheres no 1 tick delay bulb in ba sing se

    • @matopgaming8858
      @matopgaming8858 11 месяцев назад

      Something I just feel like minecraft modders make minecraft better than the devs that make the game

    • @polarknight5376
      @polarknight5376 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@matopgaming8858friends and foes mod.

  • @juciymiddle3102
    @juciymiddle3102 11 месяцев назад +3

    0:31 YOU CANT RELEASE IT, YOU MIGHT POISION THE FROGS

  • @someguywithatophat7599
    @someguywithatophat7599 11 месяцев назад +9

    5:40 I was so scared of it being a fucking rick roll, but when I heard the song it was so nice and more relaxing than I usually find it lol :3

  • @Kolateak_
    @Kolateak_ 11 месяцев назад +5

    Mojang: * adds good feature *
    Also Mojang: Whoops * removes it *

  • @brevortofficial
    @brevortofficial 11 месяцев назад +2

    5:26 Genuinely surprised this isn't a rickroll.

  • @saltcutep
    @saltcutep 11 месяцев назад +11

    They should make the delay go up as the bulb oxidizes

    • @GTron13
      @GTron13 11 месяцев назад

      That would be the best of both worlds. Mojang gets their "consistency," redstoners get their odd game ticks. Everyone's happy.

  • @MagolorRR
    @MagolorRR 11 месяцев назад +65

    If you think about it, copper bulbs are pretty much just the light blocks (the ones obtained with commands), but in survival.

  • @mane42
    @mane42 11 месяцев назад +11

    Let us raise an army and make as much noise as physically possible. Not offensive noise, because that will go nowhere. Instead, we need to make noise like "Hey, this was a really cool feature and we want it back!" They can't ignore the majority of their community forever.

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius 11 месяцев назад +4

      Everyone wanted sideways slabs, and Mojang put it on a list of blocks never to add to the game.
      You are underestimating the madness and stupidity of Mojang...

    • @doctorgrubious7725
      @doctorgrubious7725 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Tasoriuswe need a IED producer 💀💀💀

    • @mr.cauliflower3536
      @mr.cauliflower3536 11 месяцев назад

      I mean, review bombing works. Though google doesn't show minecraft's reviews, so we can't really do that.

  • @kermitvlikestea
    @kermitvlikestea 11 месяцев назад +41

    ANOTHER DAY another common L for the minecraft dev team.

    • @birdgirl97_2
      @birdgirl97_2 11 месяцев назад +1

      really???????

    • @Hychargerplug
      @Hychargerplug 11 месяцев назад +5

      Taking down the enjoyed features.

    • @user-rm1zj6lg4j
      @user-rm1zj6lg4j 11 месяцев назад +4

      I bet they are going to remove Quasy-connectivity next

    • @alexsiemers7898
      @alexsiemers7898 11 месяцев назад

      @@user-rm1zj6lg4jthe only reason that would be a bad idea is because of how long it’s been in the game. As a “feature” it’s the antithesis if intuitive game design

  • @theta8529
    @theta8529 11 месяцев назад +13

    I think the Auto Crafter Change is Wise, Since Else it can be used to Quickly Overload servers or Clients. But the Copper Bulb should stay as a One tick, But Depending on Weathered State it Should Increase in Delay.

    • @Yipper64
      @Yipper64 11 месяцев назад +1

      Well in that case i'd say the copper bulb could be zero tick (as it is after the update) but increase to 1 tick if its weathered at all.

    • @Ruthro
      @Ruthro 11 месяцев назад +3

      the load on the server caused by redstone dust is so, so, SO much greater
      we've been complaining about it for years
      In fact us technical MC players avoid dust like the plague

    • @Myne1001
      @Myne1001 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Ruthro and the fact Panda4994, who famously made a redstone wire lag fix, is now working at Mojang and we STILL haven't had it implemented is truly bizarre

    • @notcraig255
      @notcraig255 11 месяцев назад

      Do Not Capitalize Every Other Word Like This

  • @Waermelon
    @Waermelon 11 месяцев назад +1

    Minecraft: Adds a feature
    Everyone: Super happy about it
    Minecraft: "That's not right"

  • @thedude4063
    @thedude4063 11 месяцев назад +12

    Gotta love Phoenix sneaking in a music theory lesson

  • @raysay1818
    @raysay1818 11 месяцев назад +33

    So in otherwords the community needs to hold off on sharing new and interesting game mechanics to the public because mojang might see it and then decide the best course of action is for people to not have those things.

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser 11 месяцев назад

      Nope

    • @averagephlogfan6475
      @averagephlogfan6475 11 месяцев назад +17

      Yes actually! Just like Nintendo. Wait until they drop the game and then show off your glitches

    • @CheeseMiser
      @CheeseMiser 11 месяцев назад

      @@averagephlogfan6475 yall are such sad adults

    • @MakenaForest
      @MakenaForest 11 месяцев назад

      ​​@@CheeseMiserand youre such a miserable kid. this was gamechanging and it was ripped away,

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 11 месяцев назад +10

      ​@@CheeseMiserWhy are you watching a minecraft video just to complain about it

  • @SilvercattoOsom
    @SilvercattoOsom 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can't they just give Mojang a break already? This is getting absolutely ridiculous.

  • @FullMetalMaster
    @FullMetalMaster 11 месяцев назад +17

    I've been wanting Redstone changes for the longest time I just despise it in general so seeing if there was a one tick delay that I wasn't aware of it was really cool it's actually a nice thing to have and brings interest Redstone for me. Without Mojang has decided hey let's be consistent and this is the reason why I play modded Minecraft in barely any vanilla making redstone contraptions as pain a one tick delay would have been nice but we did it ripped away I will continue to not mine redstone when I go underground

    • @phantominway
      @phantominway 11 месяцев назад

      What do you dislike about redstone?

    • @mindset2047
      @mindset2047 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@phantominwayI dislike every piece of redstone
      In bedrock edition

  • @naterinosan6920
    @naterinosan6920 11 месяцев назад +12

    I feel like the hype also came from the fact that this one tick delay changed a lot about how we could use Redstone, therefor adding a really really curious change that everyone could experiment with for a really long time. In fact, it would probably revive a little bit of the Redstone part of the community. Taking this away I feel like just killed more of their community. They aren't listening for some reason and I feel like that's going to be their biggest downfall.

    • @namenloserflo
      @namenloserflo 11 месяцев назад +1

      It's currently possible but less compact

  • @potionofautismorsomething411
    @potionofautismorsomething411 11 месяцев назад +1

    If Mojang changed the copper bulb for the sake of consistency with redstone, then by that same logic they should change the Warden's animations to be more consistent with the older Minecraft mobs.
    And to be clear, I have nothing against the Warden's animations. My point is that if they allow the Warden to have unique animations, then they should also allow the Copper Bulb to have unique functionality.

  • @_WalterWhite
    @_WalterWhite 11 месяцев назад +79

    mojang trying not to ruin their game because when someone uses a block 100% impossible

    • @AK_804
      @AK_804 11 месяцев назад

      Which blocks are they removing?

    • @_WalterWhite
      @_WalterWhite 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@AK_804 I think you read my comment wrong. They are not removing any blocks

    • @AK_804
      @AK_804 11 месяцев назад

      @@_WalterWhite not removing, but which blocks are they making worse

    • @_WalterWhite
      @_WalterWhite 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@AK_804 copper bulb and crafter

    • @AK_804
      @AK_804 11 месяцев назад

      @@_WalterWhite the crafter??? What did they do to it?

  • @muhammedmuha4846
    @muhammedmuha4846 11 месяцев назад +40

    "Everyone is mad at mojang"
    And whats new?

    • @birdgirl97_2
      @birdgirl97_2 11 месяцев назад +3

      “1 reply” ??????

    • @mrfoxyx
      @mrfoxyx 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@birdgirl97_2no it 2

    • @holmat1
      @holmat1 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@mrfoxyx make that 3

    • @muhammedmuha4846
      @muhammedmuha4846 11 месяцев назад

      @@holmat1 four( wink wink ) four some reason i feel my notifications arent gonna spare me today

    • @chaos4799
      @chaos4799 11 месяцев назад

      4

  • @fireandiceforever975
    @fireandiceforever975 11 месяцев назад +8

    What I find funny is the fact that once 1.21 is out, the first mod/datapack that's gonna be uploaded is gonna be a reversion of these blocks back to their original functionality.

    • @phofers
      @phofers 6 месяцев назад

      Not with a datapack unfortunatly, but I'm sure it's going to be a mod! It might even be the Carpet mod that does this, and that's developed by gnembon!

  • @awsomemrc
    @awsomemrc 11 месяцев назад +8

    Please make a video where you change all tickspeeds in the entire game to 2 in order to make ALL tick speeds more "consistent". This is clearly the ideal game Mojang Is striving towards.