Eastern Philosophers vs Western Philosophers. Epic Rap Battles of History
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- Eastern Philosophers vs Western Philosophers. Epic Rap Battles of History
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"Bitch, I wrote the art of War"
-Sun Tzu, Art of War
My favorite quote
@@Nugcon you mean the best quote
I read it recently, and had no idea so much of it could be translated to technoblades videos
Sun tzu said that and I think he knows a lot more about war then you considering he invented it
So you better get your guns out
The beat dropped harder than democracy in Greece
Sergeant George omg xD
Yes!
Sergeant George ooh haha you are so funny..h..aha..ha...-_- fuck off nolifer
Andreas Konstantinos ,μάλιστα ...
Sergeant George wste ellinas e?
You know you’ve grown intellectually when you revisit an ERB rap battle and are actually understanding it
Yessir
Damn so much, they work so much for all or there songs
Lao Tzu is the greateat of these irl no cap
God deamn hello
@@simplicitas5113 like all of them but Nietzsche calls out more to me becuase he gave form to what i have felt and provides a way to get over it and that anzi thing was all his sisters doing i have just watched lectures of these guys but my plan is to still read them. But loa tzu is one my favorite philosophers.
I love how after Nietzsche and Socrates argue, Nietzsche just turns around and starts plotting like hes gonna murder him
he def was
then when the frank segment starts he just turns around violently
@@italianbuffoon9953 "Let me be Frank! Don't start beef with the Frank! Who hangs with B. Franks giving ladies Beef Franks!"
@@AppleAPlusAntApplebeesAAABatte Voltaire was a great womanizer
@@AppleAPlusAntApplebeesAAABatte Incidentally, I just got an ad for hot dogs at the end of this video. XD
Socrates' rap: I started everything.
Nietzsche's rap: I am the best.
Laozi's rap: I am the humblest.
Sun Tzu's rap: I am the smartest.
Confucius's rap: I am the wisest.
Voltaire's rap: I slept with more women than you all.
Socrates:”I will pick apart your wu with my method man”
Sun Tzu: [shit I better work fast or I am done for]
For those that don’t know Socrates’ method was infamous for tearing apart things and breaking them done to components so flawed they became meaningless.
Also his dominant presence allowed him to not only gain control but manipulated others into submission with ease (tactic did not hold up well in court when the jury was able take a moment and think without his influence)
Being and becoming are, indeed, paths of distinct perspective. Therefore they cannot be, they may any be in the way of becoming and manifesting.
But yeah, Voltaire was such a P.I.M.P
“If the ladies were ugly it doesn’t count”
Sun tzu the art of war
@@miccool9ice363
That line was also a pun on Method Man which was by the Wu Tang Clan.
@@major2026
So it was a triple entendre,
Awesome
All the philosophers end up arguing with each other...
Sounds about right
woosh
@@GrimmReaperz95 ?
So I guess... the Hegelian dialectic seems to apply to even the most well-known of names. It’s a shame, I thought their would be at least truthful conformity.
@@TRPD-hb3ui well that was philosophers do. They argue with each other with conflicting ideas and that was the one of points of the video. That's why they started arguing with each other.
@TrueGamerOpinion
It's not ironic, dummy.
"Your ego's just so distracting, free speech doesn't mean just keep yapping" I feel like a lot of people could learn from this lol
"liberal west"
@@filipesugden1982 What?
@@legoyoda9782 He was attempting to claim the liberal west does not shut up while claiming free speech, when it is just about anyone who feels their opinion is the correct one.
Preach, my dude, PREACH!
Fax
Sun Tzu telling Confucius’ eyebrows to fit better on his face whilst his are halfway up his forehead is pure comedic gold.
You always teach what you Most have to learn .
And then Confucius talks about the to-go box hat when his hat looks more like a to-go box
@@lysipiggy3911 so you are saying jesus needs to learn more about religions?
@@lots_of_peopleKinda yeah
When 6 smart students got a different answers.
If they were.reslly smart they end up either with 1 or 2 opinions between them or with the same, all, obviously, really smart people integrate many layers of a topic and combine it with facts of all types, and their extensions combined with projection to probabilistic outcomes.. (drd1-4, histamine and glutamate of the same parts) = the above, likely, and perhaps for sume no shit.. (still too much varience even with childhood etc included as factors is the least possible so..)
This is actually true, every reply before me forgot to take that these students are philosophy students lmao
Like half of them got one and the other half got another but when they start to talk about it they each got the answer with different methods and start arguing
6 smart students dont exist
@@panaliv712 The problem with smart people is that it gives a tendency to be a little arrogant. And they don't play well with others.
Ah, the ancient Chinese art of... beatboxing...
Lol and the guy playing him is Korean
NVR guru Korea inherited more Chinese cultures than modern China. True fact.
True that Korea was largely infuenced from ancient China, but it doesnt mean Korea was once part of China. Chinese empires didnt bother Koreans maintain their independent rule.
Derrick Liu Because most Chinese people today don't care about their traditional culture,especially youngsters.Even some cultures have been gradually forgotten by people, it would be better some people could inherite them,thus these cultures will never disappear.
Ini Miney I have, honestly.
"Let me be frank, don't start beef with the frank, who hangs with B. Franks, giving ladies beef franks" is the best wordplay since miss carriage and birthmarks
It's just a shame that this only came out after they were all tricked into infighting.
If I see one more comment about the Miss Carriage line
Best wordplay in ERB history
@@ohno3736 its way too overrated
@@Frosty-1029somebody said…. birthmarks?!
Later generations in a spelling bee:
Host: your word is Nietzsche
Contestant: N-I-E-T-Z-S-C-H-E and I'll end any mo-....*cough*...er...I mean 'Nietzsche'
lol good one
That SARS joke aged better than I would’ve liked
(edit: wow. Still relevant in 09/21) 😒
sheesh lmao
lolol
Chillll🤣🤣🤣🤣
i love that SARS joke
Kyoh you’re right
Voltaire: *tries to calm down socrates*
Socrates: *insults Voltaire*
Voltaire: *So you have chosen...death*
Can't like this comment as oft as I want
No it’s wrong
Voltaire: So you have chosen...Beef Frank
Gotta serve your Frank's hard
Voltaire: *B E E F* *F R A N K*
@@mungunshagaibuyantugs8189 Death by Beef Frank :-P
“Because I’m N I E T Z S C H E! And I’ll end any motherfucker like my name in a spelling bee!” By far one of the best lines in ERB history
2:19 For relevant time stamp
this line unironically helped me learn how to spell it lol
That and Stephen Hawking's, "There are 10 million, million, million, million, million, million, million particles in the universe that we can observe." (I may have missed a million or two)
It's definitely one of the lines ever
@@Dante2056yo mama took the ugly ones and put them into one nerd
Potentially the best ERB 100%. The fact the philosophers turn on each other eventually because they are so obsessed with discussion, the switch up of the ending "WHAT IS WINNING?" LMAO... and MC Jin holding in his laughter at the very end when he delivers the last line is just the icing on the cake - BEST ERB TRUE
I think most philosophers are more obsessed with their own brilliance than the argument itself.
Yeah, the "WHAT IS WINNING?" just goes to show that this battle WAS a tie, but is DEFINITELY the best ERB.
Philosophy students when they're drunk:
100th like
I want to like it, but the burnout philosopher in me doesn't want to disrupt them 420 likes.
Who the hell studies philosophy lmao 💀
@@ryanmuller4996 people, that's who
@@Alienlover859 You're making me cetic, *How can i be sure you press like on it UHMMMMM?*
Who won? nobody because there is no victory in philosophy, only confusion.
Lol good one
well, your right. But there was a GUY NAMED CONFUSIUS! REMINDS ME OF CONFUSION!!
Confucius-on.
+Nobby1967 Games, Music And More confucius-Won
You confuse confusion with illumination. You have no idea what the enlightment is do you? Philosophy is a way of life that solves problems it does not create....wtf is wrong with some people....thats why we luck philosophy teachings in our days so we can get confuced.The exact opposite of what you wrote applies in reality and in our times.
The irony of Nietzsche's bar making me remember exactly how to spell his name while saying that spelling his name is impossible is not lost on me. Thank you for the mnemonic, ERB.
Funny that after all these years I still find myself going back to this one. One of the best ERB's ever done.
It’s catchy
Same there’s just so many meanings behind each line it’s crazy
This Nietzsche looks more Nietzsche than the original Nietzsche.
how do you even pronounce his name correctly?
@@kuramazov its knee cha
@@sarthakrawat7748 onee chan?
@@capitaopacoca8454 yare yare daze
@@sarthakrawat7748 No knee che.(unless your British)
The fact that Sun Tzu actually performed the Art of War by turning them on themselves was amazing
so much in this video is perfect especially that they all turn on themselves since really none of these people would actually like each other as they all have drastically different opinions on the world (Socrates and Confucius are probably the most similar and even the they really aren't all that close)
and yea sun tzu recognizing that and exploiting it also makes sense
@@ryangrear3430 Confucius and Laozi were people of the same period by popular history, and Laozi was a very much respected by Confucius, and they have had many discussions. Laozi mainly came up when Confucius's students asked him something and he would quote Laozi as an authoritative figure.
E.g. in The Family Sayings of Confucius, Jikangzi asked Confucius: "I have long heard the names of the five emperors, yet I do not know what they are. I beg to ask therefore: what are the five emperors?"
Confucius said: "In the past I have heard Laozi saying: 'There are five elements in this world: gold, wood, water, fire, earth and they combined and made all things. The Gods of these elements, Shaohao, Taihao, Zhuanxu, Yandi, Huangdi, are called the five emperors.'"
@@Zenovarse As a Chinese, I have to say the Sunzi (孙子) is not always considered as a philosophy in China，actually I would recommend Mozi (墨子) join in the battle. If you do not know who he is , well, he is more like some kind of commie in 3000 years ago. He favours something like Practice, equation, organization and discipline (Russian theme playing)
Love The Art of War, and love ERB's attention to detail leading to the battles developing in such a natural, intelligent and entertaining way 😄
@@user-sj9sd3ym3f COMMMIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE (buck rounds gunshots and deep fry noises)
"Confucius say: you can all hold these fortune cookies" is the best end banger ever. It's so random and hilarious, I love it.
You'll never know what you'll get, facial, creampie, superman, etc.
It's just awesome 😆😆😆😆
the 'What is winning?' at the end really got me.
Damn, this East Coast West Coast shit has been going on since the dawn of time...
I laughed way harder at this than I should have.
🏆
i’m crying 👏👏👏😂
This comment is greatly underrated.
Oh damn, Such Perspective! Hahaha
After all this time i realised that Nietzsche didn't turn on Socrates just for the plot, in reality , Nietzsche really hated the ideas of Socrates
Then Socrates gets mad at Nietzsche for calling him "plebe" not because of the insult at face value but because the Athenian plebe literally voted for him to be executed, which is one of the main reasons why Plato would subsequently be critical of democracy as the rule of the mob
Damn, ERB put some deep thought into these raps.
My favorite rap battle. Of course it's deep.
Isaiah Wilson they always do. Based on how well you know your history the better their videos are. If You know the ins and outs then the raps get 3x as complex
Indeed, he was one of the first to actually dedicate his studies to pre-socratic philosophers.
Sun Tzu and Nietzsche are the MVP's, for making the enemy team battle eachother instead, and Nietzsche for legit being Nietzsche, he's a Riot 😂
To this day Im still shocked at how deep and well researched ERB raps are, there are so many layers of history hidden in the lyrics it makes these so rewatchable even if you know the entire story
Best flow: the West
Best disses: the East
Overall winner: Human civilization
Overall loser: Spelling bee participants
The spelling Bee part is why I come back to this, it's soo hilarious and out of place, and also SCARY! 🤣
Broooooooooooo
2:21
“And I’ll end any motherfucker like my name in a spelling bee!,” is still one of my favorite ERB lines.
i love how this insinuates that spelling bee participants arent a part of human civalization
Best Outfit: Voltaire
Best Flow: Confucius
Best Eyebrows: Sun Tzu
Best Disses: Socrates
Best Beat: Laozi
Spelling Bee Winner: Nietzsche
Confucius is Jin .. of course he had best flow
Nailed it
spelling bee winner made me wheeze
Overall winner: History
Losers: Nietzche's mustache and Confucius' eyebrows
I like how they delivered bigger burns against their own teamates than against the other team.
I honestly think this one holds up as one of the best battles in erb history. So well made!
Winner: Sun Tsu
Loser: Also Sun Tsu
He divided the other team, than he divided his own.
Sun Tzu perfectly performed art of war with perfect sense of perfection
@@Madara_Uchiha69420 Pretty much
His success went to far
was he a mathematician?🤔
Lao Tzu divided his team, Sun Tzu just continued. Winner: Confichus
sun tzu: war
confusious: respect
lao tzu: wisdom
voltare: *sex*
Well that is why Voltaire would always win.
Hotel: Trivago
Me too
@@redneckbwaoi2739 Every word i read from that is: "I wanna sex, i dont care, sex with hairy woman with baguettes oui oui"
*claps slowly*
Easily one of my favorite ERB rap battles
That “Picking apart your Wu with my Method Man” refrence to the Wu Tang Clan still gets me to this day!!!
I like how this battle mirrors every philosophical debate on the internet. It starts out on point then devolves into comparing someone to Hitler and telling them to suck balls.
Yeah
One big part of that. "Internet". Tells you all you need to know lol
What did people get compared to before Hitler.
@@Halcon_Sierreno evil was not conceived before Hitler's birth
@@aj9777 That's ignorant.
The fact that Socrates, Voltaire, and Nietzsche didn't devolve into yelling at each other until halfway through is honestly an incredible achievement
Y'all forgot that Sun Tzu was in this, right? Ik it was a joke, but I'm just saying HE was the main reason the West started fighting each other
The unity of racism
@@elysahatestostudy9364 You symbolize the unity of stupidity
@@elysahatestostudy9364 Nah bro, no unity of racism without the austrian painter leading it
Europe be like "Let's celebrate what unites us all : Xenophobia !"
Currently taking philosophy in college .. and this came out when I was 15. Now coming back to get some fact, and recount the knowledge I’ve learned on all of these philosophers 😂
😂😂
At 2:35 you can see Sun Tzu sneaking over to watch them with binoculars. The "turn them on themselves" precept he teaches is generally titled "OBSERVE Fire From Opposite Shore."
It all fits!
A battle of philosophers could only really end in them all squabbling amongst themselves. I love it.
The number of likes you already have show the amount of revisits this thing gets
My comments never get that many likes on new videos. You got this many on an old video.
By the way, Nietzsche is best and Sun Tzu is worst.
No one is gonna talk about Timmy delaghetto being on this
"1:48"
I feel like a philosopher would debate you on that
Sun Tzu: *successfully turns their opponents against themselves*
Lao Tzu: *I'm about to ruin our victory*
Laozi's remark actually flew over Sun Tzu's head. It basically translates to "we win by doing nothing at this point, so let's just not fuck it up."
@@kikiretzorg1467 "So long as nobody starts *us* arguing, they'll destroy themselves."
"LEEEROOOOY-"
@Daniel von Strangle The more accurate translation of Las Tzu's famous saying is "it's the empty space that makes the bowl useful" which like much of eastern philosophy has both metaphorical and literal meaning; metaphorically it sort-of means an absence of an action is sometimes more powerful than acting.
@@bestpseudonym1693 Ironically, Lao Tzu shouldn't have brought up the empty bowl rhetoric because that was the opposite of not doing anything.
@@Jake-dh9qk he was just sayin just sit back and vibe as they destroy themselves. No point in using a bowl still filled with shit.
this is probably my favourite ERB of all time, so harmonius and it just exploded into chaos. Masterful work
agreed, i loved the part where Voltaire said
"Let me be frank: don't start beef with the Frank,
Who hangs with B. Franks, giving ladies beef franks!"
1:55 The best part, the flow here is just sooo yesss
“Free speech doesn’t mean just keep yapping “.
underrated!
👌
the chinese prespective
@@dickswanson2 free speech doesn't mean free speech without consequences
@@livingtoaster1358 nobody said that...
For those who don't know, this is Peter's favorite battle
Yeah, mine too
No one cares.
@@clenjones5748 you cared enough to reply and click on this comment
I want number 9 I care enough that Peter is a little bitch.
@@clenjones5748 So someone did care
Nietzsche's part unironially helped me remember his name's spelling on a test
i wanna say this is 1 of the best rap battles to show how amazing the costume makers are. the costumes for the Western Philosophers are so well detailed
as a student of philosophy... this is accurate...
+Joonas Ahonen They actually research every individual they rap about. They note down bullets of certain achievements or personal info, and they build the lyrics. It's all really accurate, with creativity inserted here and there. This song actually made me read about Nietzsche, and I was blown away by his sayings. They made want to read his books.
+Joonas Ahonen how does discovery channel dnews fail on facts? but that red head is hot.
did you decide to do philosophy so you can think deeply about being unemployed?
Glad I didn't have to take out student loans to learn this! And hopefully, neither did you... xD
+skygiant 123 thats actually a myth. Philosophy is actually a degree that can get you a good job because it requires you to actually think outside your comfort zone and solve problems using logics
Best flow: Confucius
Best disses: Socrates
Winner: Pompey the great
Nic T no one can ever beat him
Tyler Nakashima Like how no one can summon Exodia?
YEAH!
Hotel: Trivago
Hey fella, swell diss
Easily one THE most sick beats in ERB history! 🔥🔥
2:57 A bowl is most useful when it is empty because there are more possibilities with it. If you had a bowl full of cereal, that would eliminate the possibilities of it being filled with soup or ramen, but if it was an empty bowl there is more possibilities.
I love that all the others drop some life philosophy shit while Sun Tzu, in true fashion, came to throw hands
Bro wrote the art of throwing hands what do you expect
And Voltaire's rap was just he slept with more women so
@@a_person5853 Thats kinda all that Voltaire did, other than like just writing letters about "we should be allowed to speak freely" which is what john locke already did
@Bidoofen hold on, he also wrote Candide which was an attack on Leibniz's "best of all possible worlds" through the mechanism of Pangloss. Saying he was only about free speech undermines Voltaire tbh
E
Me: *doing a Biology exam*
My Brain: "CAUSE I'M N-I-E-T-Z-S-C-H-E"
Edit: Every time I come back to this video I fucking _wheeze_ when I have a look at this comment chain because _we're still going_ even though this is like our third loop now
"And i'll end any motherf*cker like my name in a spelling bee''
@@UniformGem2 “plebe bitch? I’m toxic like a hemlock sip”
@@masayuki2454 hang a sandal on the door cuz you can **** soc’s ****
@@northstarpokeshipper2148 Sacrebleu, Socrates! You're making things a little tense
@@whiteobama9366 "Come let's blind these chinese heinies with some shiny bright enlightenment!"
Oh my god. I’ve watched this like thirty times over the years and now just got that Uber pun.
One of ERB's most creative rap battles to this date, especially now that we all understand what these philosophical greats were talking about.
Sun Tzu turned the Western Philosophers on themselves so they would be easier to beat. Then, he immediately starts insulting the Eastern Philosophers, and turns the Eastern Philosophers against each other too. It was all the same plan, Sun Tzu has turned everyone on everyone and will inevitably win.
But Confuzius let EVERYONE Holding his Fortune Cookies.
I like the fact he was in the background watching the Western Philosophers self-destruct
*Yeah, this is big brain time*
In the end, nothing matters. Nietzsche's technically correct.
Is that the plot of the art of war book?
this one isn't settled yet. needs more.
+Thomas Jenkins PLEASEEEEE
+Thomas Jenkins YEEEEES
+Thomas Jenkins This needs rematch!
+Thomas Jenkins grass mask?
They better get Dumbfoundead on the next one if they do
This will always be my favourite Rap Battle. Idk why I'm so hooked to this rap battle (its excellent and addicting). And I'll gladly let myself be hooked to this hahaha
I do have one question, why does Sun Tzu make fun of Confucius' eyebrows when HE's the one with the extreme eyebrows, and Confucius talks about Sun's "to-go-box hat" when Confucius is the only one wearing a hat??
FR LOL
Here is just characterization, but IRL, Confucius's eyebrows grew outside his face and Sun Tzu used to wear a small, square box-like hat.
@@bernirn 😭
I've never forgotten how to spell "Nietzsche" since watching this video
Though I'm sure the other kids at the spelling bee were pretty intimidated when you threatened to 'end them' :)
me too
It's my favorite part of the song and the only reason I can spell his name.
I still can't lol
lmao
That bit on the end “what is winning?” Is criminally underated
True. Never noticed it till now.
Nice
Perhaps the most poignant part
"Me No Third Reichy" is too!!!
[insert philosophy_joke here]
All eastern thinkers needed to say was "copy cats of southern thinkers" mic drop
ONE of the best of the many BESTs.
Kinda love that they started fighting when Nietzsche insulted Socrates, cause that's essentially how he started his career.
Birth of tragedy my dudes.
Kinda love the way they started
with that Nietzsche insultin' Socrates.
That's how his career started,
Will to Birth of a Big Tragedy!
So wait. “Birth of Tragedy” was at the beginning of Nietzche’s career and they didn’t make a line in the battle that pointed this out? They really missed an opportunity. Something like, “The beginning of your career was the Birth of a Tragey,” although obviously more lyricized and eloquent.
nietzsche never really had a career in philosophy, he only became popular after he died
Just Kev well he was unpopular in his time that’s for sure but he did try to contribute to philosophy in his life before he went loco
@@justkev633 Technically, nobody had a career in philosophy. They get money bases on their books, so they are basically they were unnimployed (unlike Ancient Greece, where the philosophers were really appriciated by the society because they were the masters of many domains)
"A rap of a thousand words, starts with a single sick beat" - Lao Tzu
Words of wisdom
Dope
@@emmanuelbanda6359 sorry but wasn't Ghandi the one who said something similar to that?
@Mr.BlitsyBuss Wtf?
Mr.BlitsyBuss Um don’t post that in comments...
Imagine being a philospher, and then 21 centuries later someone creates this with you in it
damn.... this was 8 years ago now....
I thought Lao Tzu's "move bitch get out the way" line was random but i just learned that Dao from daoism (the philosophy Lao Tzu contributed to) means "The way"
Well daoism is more like a spiritual path that has a clear philosophy, not strictly a philosophy
Yeah. We get that reference 5 years ago. It was very clever.
Not only that - when Lao Tzu wanted to leave "China" (he just traveled further to the West and was never seen again) a guy guarding some border blocked his path. Wanting prove that it is indeed LT, LT procceeded to write down his entire philosophy just to get him out of the way.
At least that's what Richard Wilhelm wrote in his preface of the Dao de Ging, if I remember correctly. It's been a while
@@ceral1079 yeah but as a Taoist myself I must say to you that this tale is a myth, a symbolic teaching of Lao Tzu wisdom. Probably never happened, the very existence of Lao Tzu is debatable. He may be himself a symbolic figure to represent a tradition of sage masters that discovered the nature of the Tao. He is considered by Taoist the perfect immortal, the model to reach in order to be in union with the Tao.
@@Sojju7 Oh I know that chances are he as in an individual didn't exist, which is why I referred to the preface. I should have been more specific about the "probably never happened" part, that's true. Thanks for the clarification!
Till this day, I still randomly sang "N-I-E-T-Z-S-C-H-E"
Same
Here here
Same
I’m now prepared for a spelling bee.
@@StoneInMySandal same
I like the fact it ends with "what is winning".
Coming back to this ERB out of pure nostalgia, it now feels like an Age of Empires 2 chatroom with players trashing each other with some mild roleplay
The “What is Winning?” kills me everytime.
Me too. Then he goes QUIET!
I didn't even get it until last year lmao
gaining, resulting in, or relating to victory in a contest or competition.
I just get it
Philosophy joke
This should have been the season finale.
Definitely!! Best one yet imo
+TheReivenlocke if they had done that, we would not have the "What is winning?" joke. This should have been the season 4 second half debut, but probably they not finished it on time.
+TheReivenlocke this or the directors battle
i know that. i was just saying it might have been better off as the finale instead of the one they chose
they said in the BTS for Ghostbusters vs MythBusters that they were tired of that pairing. there will never be a part 4
It's crazy how much though they put into this battle. With each rappers lyrics matching their state of philosophy, they way each "rival" was placed against each other due to the clashes in their styles of philosophy, Sun Tzu using the art of war to turn the westerners on themselves only for the easterners' own clashes in their way of thinking also causing conflict. Even including some modern rap references with Method Man and Move Bitch the latter of which was also used as a double entendre to reference the work thay Lao Tzu had made. They really put thought into every single line. Easy top 5 battle.
Yeah, this is basically what philosophers do. Argue with each other all day, this is pretty accurate.
Judas vs Brutus : ones of the greatest traitors in history
I would like to see Judas vs Benedict Arnold
Explosive Magic and me xD
Benedict was being treated like shit, though. Judas vs Brutus sounds better
Why not all 3 of them? Judas vs Brutus vs Arnold vs more traitors
Similar to the Russian video, just keep stacking them til the most traitorous traitor.
Thegolddraco judas vs lando calrissian more like it.
Not enough people are talking about how angry Nietzsche was
He literally walked off the stage.
Oh yeah yeah
I agree
I just slapped your momma
she voted for Obama
Oh yeah yeah
remembering nietzsche’s spelling bee bar is currently my go to for remembering how to spell his name. i did it just now
My conclusion here is all philosophers never be in the same page their battles are more bloody than battles that use weapons
In this battle, Lao Tzu was highly loyal to his own philosophy, with quotes like "a bowl is more useful when it is empty" (in the Tao Te Ching, he says that pretending to be wise is a sickness, and admiting to be ignorant is the first step to the cure), "get out The Way" (this seemingly simple quote summarizes the whole philosophy of Lao: The Way (Tao) is the natural order of the world, and hindering or breaking it leads to chaos; if someone wants to live in peace and harmony, he needs to let things be and do not try to change them), and the fact that he almost did not rap anything (in Taoism, the way to live according to the Tao is the Wu Wei: an effortless action or inaction)
On the other hand, Sun Tzu was way more warmongering and aggresive towards the Westerns (as it was expected), while Confucius tried to keep on the tradition of the rap battle (because Confucius' philosophy is based in the order and harmony throughout the social hierarchy, honor, ceremonies and traditions).
Well done, ERB, you did your homework! :) Greetings from Mexico.
Great analysis, i hadn't noticed some of that before
The sun tzu stuff was pretty obvious and I picked up on the Confucius thing after a few rewatches but never picked up on Lao Tzu, pretty cool stuff!
Wow this is really interesting may I ask which book or where are the sources you got it from? Really interesting:)
@@petchpoonpoon3596 Mainly the Tao Te Ching, although it is a little difficult to read.
Muchas gracias por la metódica y detallada explicación, hermano. Es digno de admirar que estés tan familiarizado con la filosofía oriental, no es algo común en México.
Probably the best battle when it comes to lyrics and references they've done. Pure genius.
not to mention the best arrangement making a 3 on 3 battle
agree
Yep you can tell there was some serious studying on this one and I honestly think 3 or 4 of their best lines ever are packed in about 2 minutes of this battle.
It is not just the epic references but also the fact that the references are the criticisms that are proffered.
can't believe i never seen this one before... quite hilarious...
People overlook just how funny and fitting 'WHAT IS WINNING' is at the end lmao
The best battle rap in ERB not gonna lie
History teacher: so what happened to the philosophers
Me: well it's complicated
Mr. Fancy I just laughed my head of when I read this please tell me you came up with that
Philosophers still exist, little jimmy... it isn’t an arcane title relegated to the men of old, there just hasn’t been many with the cultural significance of those presented in the video since.
Joe Jane Its a joke comment...
Joe Jane I think the most famous modern-day philosopher would have to be Zizek, his personality sets him apart from the rest
Cadomi
It’s a really, really, really, shitty attempt at humor bereft of any thought.
"What is winning"
winning is winning!
Ulric, you are a wise man...
ben no one is realy wise, juste no so stupide than everyone.
that was a very "philosophical" question they went with XD
yep
This is one of the best you guys ever dropped. I love the beat.
What a plethora can infer from the axiom ERB has established is that despite the attempts posed by philosophers to reach one mutual conclusion, each mind will inevitably contradict such a conclusion with what they believe to be self evident or due to being plagued with egotism (as correctly conveyed within the video).
I hate that this isn't even close to their most popular one
Me too. This one's easily in my top 5.
Which one is their most popular one? Too lazy to look up myself^^
Darius I Obama vs Romney
It's not popular because no one knows who Voltaire, Nietzsche, Sun Tzu, or Lao Tzu are.
Sad that this battle is one of there lowest videos, they're not at popular as the ones with 100m
After watching this 374 times ive noticed little Sun smiling in the background when westeners starts to argue and its absolutely hilarious
Even more impressive is that after 5 years you still read the comments under your videos, im honestly honored
and taking pics hahah
At watch time?
@@narindrathalia6422 Around 2:43 lol
Lol
This is probably one of the most fire ERB videos
The smile when he says "you can all hold these fortune cookies" is the best.
Spelling Bee: Your word is “Nietzsche”
ERB fans: *now this looks like a job for me*
Why was this actually a good joke
*So everybody just follow me*
*’Cause we need a little controversy*
*’Cause it feels so empty without me*
*So everybody just follow me*
*Cause we need a little controversy*
*Cause it feels so empty without me!*
If this happened to me I really don't think I could stop myself from saying "and I'll end any motherfucker like my name in a spelling bee" and I'm not sure what the judges would think of that
Charles Nichols I said that in class once on accident
"I'll end any motherfucker like like my name in a spelling bee."
-Fucking great, just fucking great
Excel Ghent j
Icedude00 Captain ?
it means "Nietzsche' is a difficult name to spell, and it'll be a slight surprise if it was used in a spelling bee competition
Icedude00 not really
Icedude00 I agree
Muy buen rap jder, es tan épico
I can't believe it's been 10 years! Honestly mental how this popped up in my feed Pure nostalgia!
"Move bitch, get out the way!"
This is the best crossover in history.
I thought you were dead
@@vwgames49 he comes in every video of ERB when US presidents come.
@@varun2904 he wasn't in trump vs biden
@@vwgames49 he catched the bullet with his skull
@Keyan Halfacre True, he really doesn't.
honestly the end of this rap is fairly clever, namely in the fact that there is no way any of these man on either side would ever work together due to just how vastly different thier philosophys are.
@@banditaviation1924 Naw dawg, I gotta disagree with you there. Philosophers arguing shouldn't be seen as a condemnation of humanity, but rather as a testament to how our species continues searching for truth without relent.
@@banditaviation1924 But the main topic was the philosophers, and you were clearly talking about them when you said that : Even if they would have agreed they still would have argued. So how does humanity as a whole come into the picture? Furthermore what Kai is saying is that they might indeed have argued in this fictional scenario however he disagrees with your negative view on the matter because arguments should not be seen as a negative element. They allow the interchange of concepts, ideas and values. Therefore, it’s a direct demonstration of the endless search of truth by man. I do agree with you though, humanity can often exhibit cruel and evil behavior, arguing not being one of them.
@@banditaviation1924 misanthropist loser
Nietzsche and Voltaire can work together but without Socrates.
@Meng Hao hehe. yes, respect your elders...
This is one of the most epic ERB’s
I love coming back to these and noticing things I didn't before. Like Lao Tzu's reactions behind Sun Tzu when he and Confucius are going after each other.