I also liked how one of the background Jokers was holding a crowbar. It was a reference to the death of the second Robin, Jason Todd. Amazing detail ERB!
way to capture the whimsical childlike side of Pennywise, while still making him unsettling and sinister. This is actually insane how well you all pulled him off.
First: This is truly ERBs masterpiece. Second: I sincerely thing the person playing Joker in this should be the new DCU Joker. A marvelous homag to Mark Hamill's Joker while still having their own style.
nice peter is who played the joker, and i agree. he did such an amazing job in this battle. which he typically does, him and lloyd are amazing at what they do.
Can I just say what a miracle it is that NicePeter's Joker performance isn't cringy or embarrassing? There are so many Mark Hamill impersonations out there and maybe one out of every hundred isn't painful to watch/listen to. So it is a huge testament to his talent and commitment as a performer that I can watch this without squinting through the whole thing. I feel like a lot of people try way too hard to be faithful to Hamill's Joker, and they wind up sounding forced and desperate. Even though I hear Hamill's Joker in NicePeter's voice, it sounds more influenced by him than it is painstakingly trying to recreate his voice, which you just can't do. I just really respect him as an artist.
NicePeter's Joker should ask that Batman where his goddamn electric car is. Because Joker here put up a better fight for Batman than Batman did against Zach Sherlock. Sorry, but that wasn't the best way to play Bats.
@@blackjacktrial That's why I'm SOOO glad they waited to do Joker until now. I don't think there was ever any chance that Batman performance was going to be good back in 2012 or whenever it was. And Joker probably would've had the same "yikes" energy if they had tried to portray him back then. It's crazy how much both Peter and Lloyd have evolved as artists. Also, I haven't seen the Harley Quinn animated show, but I get your reference.
*"It's like cocaine, you know what I said. I don't know how any kind of joke could go over that head."* I love that line from Joker since he was referring to Stephen King using cocaine which was the reason why he forgot he wrote Cujo.
@@bri_lala6960 "Cujo was written during a period where King was both high on cocaine constantly and sometimes getting blackout drunk, and in his later memoir On Writing, the author admitted he barely had any recollection of doing so. "
He fuckin breathes that character man if you look at the behind the scenes of Arkham City hes doing some lines and he just loses himself he curls and juts and winds his fingers its just so enthrawling hes earned the title
Like how Kevin Conroy’s Batman is completely iconic too. Keaton and Bale were the best cinema versions of Batman in my opinion, but Conroy’s voice just breathes the character.
Ask Robin if I drop bars: (This is a reference to the 1988 Batman comic series "Batman: A Death in the Family" in which the Joker kidnaps Jason Todd (the second Robin) and brutally beats him with a crowbar, before leaving him for dead in a warehouse that is then blown up by a time bomb)
Honestly it’s so in-character for the Joker to embrace the “We Live In a Society” meme with such contextual prowess here. Gosh this was a good video. Both clowns spit such great lines. I feel like the Joker’s humanity (what’s left of it) was really clear in his quips and nitpicks, in contrast to Pennywise’s condescending, monstrous, demonic perspective. Also the voice delivery on both was FLAWLESS
It's been 4+ years since this masterpiece dropped, and this is still my favorite. The makeup is just awesome, and this ERB shows off Peter and Lloyd both perfectly fitting and playing their parts, and loving every minute of it.
Fuck..after the joker basically called that mofo a child molester..he couldn't some back with an A.K. to top that shit..damn..slayed that fucking clown
@@graciehunt7285 "I'm the John Wayne of the John Wayne Gacy's the underground clown posse" John Wayne Gacy was the serial killer who worked as a birthday clown to case victims. He raped and murder boys. If Joker implied Pennywise was a child molester, then Pennywise said "Well, yes. And much worse..."
The line "You're supposed to be the man who laughs" is a reference to the 1928 silent film "The Man Who Laughs" which was the original inspiration for the joker, it tells the story of a boy named Gwynplaine and how he is disfigured with a permanent grin, he works as a sideshow, carnival freak and falls in love with a blind girl named Dea and is to become the pawn of royalty as a lord of England
@@nickirmen6671 To be fair, that part is common knowledge now. I'd have preferred a line like "I'm the MC who Laughs" , that would be more lore digging. (Hint: Dark Night Metal)
That happened to red skull when he wanted to team up with joker Joker doesnt like nazis so he said hell no lmao, he wanted to take on red skull himself As you said being morally questioned by the joker is a red flag lmao
Though bringing up Heath Ledger isn't exactly a diss, given that even after Phoenix, Ledger is still the standart anyone playing the character will be measured by.
Joker once said that he only kills when it would be funny, whereas Pennywise kills because he can. Having standards for killing is a pretty warped way of being civilized. Furthermore, he refuses to work with Nazis if he knows they're Nazis, and he pays his taxes on time, so, you know, there's that.
Yeah and he would too - he doesnt have to wait 27 years to get his ass whupped by a group of kids, he just straight kills people when he feels like it.
I just realized the reason the Joker is a “Shining man” is because he was played by Jack Nicholson. Who was also the main antagonist in the Shining obviously.
@@jerwwilliams guy had no clue how what good filming was tbh, kubric should have done all his work cus it was def the best before the more modern stuff came out.
everyone subconciously knows this is their magnum opus because there isn't any new content being produced that would have this kind of widespread appeal with its depth
I would personally take Theodore Roosevelt vs. Winston Churchill over this one, and I'd also say that east vs. west philosophers deserves to be at the table, and Harry Potter vs. Luke Skywalker earns at least an honorable mention... That said, I ain't gonna tell you you're wrong, cuz this versus is unquestionably legendary enough to make the case for #1
@@Ashe_Blackflight Production, acting skill, line delivery, references, special effects, yeah, it's not perfect, but I still put this just a step above those three. They are very good, no doubt, it just feels like the crew went a little further with this one.
especially since they showed pennywise even confused, knowing that it would be a hard joke to get until the clarified the cocaine...... and then even roasting pennywise by not understanding the cocaine joke by making fun of his forehead.. such amazing 3 lines by joker right there
@@ransax True, but I'm especially impressed with how they portrayed joker. As soon as he said "don't you lay a finger on my bats" I immediately thought to myself "That is SO something the Joker would say!"
I love how Joker immediately started getting defensive when Pennywise threatened Batman because that's exactly something Joker would do if someone tried to kill Batman
Just came back after 2 years of this being out. "Nobody's dying to play the joker, except for maybe Heath Ledger". This was made by Mean Peter and Evil Lloyd.
@Suika Ibuki "Nobody's dying to play the Joker, except for maybe Heath Ledger". Dying, as in they're still alive because Heath died after acting the role of Joker.
Joker seems like he doesn't know what do say, but how about, Ledger won an Oscar for this, and many of my actors ARE Oscar winners? Anyway, first Joker likens himself to the devil, then this supernatural creature mentions how he LIKES the devil in reality who he apparently KNOWS. This could be a reason for Joker's reaction, a reminder that he is human like everyone else, and also why he later attacks this space-demon for not applying to human society on Earth.
2:13 I can’t even explain how much I love this, the weird effect on the voice, the dance getting faster, the head seemingly being edited in, they’re all just so well done
Nobody is talking about "Tell your author for his next gangbang scene, a little more PG and a lot less 13" That is one of the best lines I've ever heard from this channel
Joker's third verse was perfection. Everything from "Don't you lay a finger on my bat" to "a little more PG and a lot less thirteen" all the way to "We live in a society" was marvelous. One of my favorite overall verses ever.
I'm a massive, massive fan of basically every line Joker has in this. Bob Jane Bill Finger is a zinger, but one of my favorites is "when I compare your antics to the fiendish schemes I revel in, they pale like the moonlight you can dance with the devil in." A clear nod to Nicholson's Joker. That and "I'm a Shining man, wink". Of course I also love Pennywise's last verse, with the Cask of Amantillado, John Wayne of John Wayne Gaceys the underground clown posse, and best walleyed rapper since the Notorious B.I.G. All also staggeringly genius.
You also forgot the heavy theory that Joker and Batman could actually be brothers. Considering how much he knows about Bruce and his whole family even claiming to have been there when his parents were killed. Also we know Joker has been to a mental hospital and depending on how old you are when witnessing something so terrifying you either have a foggy memory of it and only becomes clear when you let yourself remember or it scars you for life leaving you with a fucked up brain and you can never let it go. It’s possible the Joker saw what happened and it left him fucked up for life, which could explain why he was in an asylum for so long until he got the help of Harley. Poor Harley too considering she developed Stockholm syndrome from being with Joker even though there is no love. Harleen is being heavily abused simply because her clown prince of crime is fucked up. Wouldn’t surprise me if he ended being Batman’s brother in one of the movies they’ll likely make or remake.
@@shadamy4ever212 what…. How does that make any sense? Why would the waynes have kept a second child a secret? And Joker hasn’t lived in Arkham his whole life, he appeared soon after Batman. This is really only a legit theory if you’re talking about the Joker movie, which is so far removed from the comics it’s ridiculous. It’s an ok movie don’t get me wrong, but it’s not Joker. At all. Like, it completely takes the point of his character and shoves it down the drain. The idea of making Batman and Joker brothers is just dumb. Not to mention all the flirting and sexual innuendos he frequently taunts Batman with in the comics
Ok seriously: in the entire history of ERB, this has got to be one of the best examples of lines, flows, costume, Easter eggs, accuracy battles ever. FLAWLESS
I don't know if its me just discoving it but 1:43-1:45 "when i flow i go mark ham with ill zingers" referencing mark hamill (the goat) is genius in my opinion
This entire line’s worth a million bucks: “Ask Robin if I drop bars, I take smiles and I leave scars, guards in Arkham will admit that the Joker just killed IT.”
Lots of folks missed the subtle wordplay in this bar that makes it extra special. “I leave scars, guards”, “Scars, guards” = Skarsgard, which is the last name of the actor who played the latest Pennywise
@@undviik1702 In the batman animated series Red hood (movie), there was a second Robin that was beaten by a crowbar and then was blown up to death. He returns as red hood afterwards. Joker basically did just that. Edited since people wasn't aware of the animated series that was on CN.
@@LeonCamero It was a reference to “A death in the family” 4 part comic run. Where people could call a 800 number and tell DC comics if the wanted to kill Jason Todd or let him live. People overwhelming wanted him dead, so in the series Joker beat him nearly to death with a crowbar and then blew him up in a ware house. Not in the batman animated series, they just skipped over him and went to tim drake. Watch “Batman: under the red hood” if you want a better explanation.
@@undviik1702 It was a reference to “A death in the family” 4 part comic run. Where people could call a 800 number and tell DC comics if the wanted to kill Jason Todd or let him live. People overwhelming wanted him dead, so in the series Joker beat him nearly to death with a crowbar and then blew him up in a ware house. Not in the batman animated series, they just skipped over him and went to tim drake. Watch “Batman: under the red hood” if you want a better explanation.
Batman is Jokers obsession. His only reason to live. In many cases he mostly cared about tricking Batman than actually getting money or any other plan working.
@wIL Heath Ledger got so into the role of joker, for method acting sake, that he exposed himself to a lot of un-wellness for his mental being, and ended up dying in a manner that seems to have resulted from it. Dude literally poured his everything into it, and dammit if it doesn't show.
"You're supposed to be the man who laughs" SO SUBTLE IT TOOK ME 3 YEARS TO SPOT!!!! The Man Who Laughs is a Victor Hugo novel adapted to film in 1928, with a main character who has a huge permanent grin due to disfigurement. Bob Kane, Bill Finger and Jerry Robinson have all said that The Joker's appearance was inspired by a photo of Conrad Veidt (the lead actor) from that film, and the 2005 graphic novel Batman: The Man Who Laughs is named as an homage. I encourage you to Google the actor, the resemblance is spooky.
I give these guys credit for all the work they put in. Especially so e of the dance moves I see in thier videos. I imagine it's not easy learning all of them
1:49 When Joker says spitting acid, you can see he comes onscreen with his hand on the flower of his suit. Where his acid/Joker toxin is stored. These small touches of detail are amazing.
I've watched this a few times a year, because it's just so good. Honestly can't even tell you who has the better flows. Both are so good and played incredibly well!
I'm really glad they had 3 verses each. Threw me off guard
Exactly! One of the few long battles here.
Same
Yus M8
Off SCARSguard
@@mistersigma909 the actor for penny-wise is skarsgaard
"You lost to a herd of nerds who call themselves the Loser's Club."
Float from that!
Nick Potter “you got beat by the Scooby gang”
He just floated
NICKLEBACKS MAH DAD Pennywise still got crushed, even if that was one of his better lines.
@@GuiltGuard I still feel like the Scooby Gang is a better description of the Losers Club than Batman
@@GuiltGuard I see you that and counter with "tell your author for his next gangbang scene how about a little more PG and a lot less 13"
@@theradiantdehd3997 Pennywise literally meant "The Scooby Gang". It was a cartoon crossover. ^_^
Shout out to the makeup department in this episode, they won.
Nah.
@@missingno.5242 ? The makeup crew won this
They were almost able to hide that massive cold sore on Joker too...
it won
I would second that.👍👍👍👍
"Like your new movie, mostly really sad"
THAT LINE HAS AGED SO WELL
SO REAL 😭
Was literally coming back to see this after watching it.😅
YES!!!
"No one's dying to play with Joker, except for maybe Heath Ledger "
"Ask Robin if I drop bars"
You guys went extra savage on this one
Except for pennywise sounding like a chicken at one point.
yuuup
Yeah i was a little shocked for a second, like "oooooh... oh no.. they went there."
Thanks sir for saying what i was thinking
Joakim Figaro Yeah, the joke about the fictional Batman story was WAY more shocking than the line about a deceased actor.
Damn. The image they recreated with the joker holding the camera like he did in the killing joke was phenomenal
Real talk they've got some awesome attention to detail, the videos chock full of em.
How u get heart so fast
I also liked how one of the background Jokers was holding a crowbar. It was a reference to the death of the second Robin, Jason Todd. Amazing detail ERB!
@@loliver9660 yeah, and the “Ask Robin if I drop bars!” line was epic.
@@loliver9660 my jaw dropped when they referenced that 😂
The appearance is one thing, i just can't get over how well they did with the voice acting. Wow. Props to that and their artists as well.
I was pretty sure it was WEIRD AI
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Just insanely talented
@@NotNochos it wasn't
Right
The production on this one is just insane. The acting, direction, instrumental, flow, lyrics. All top of the game ERB.
You guys should add the voting thing in the info tab so we can actually see who won
akulahirpada1993 it doesn’t work on mobile
Amy Zhang request desktop site
Tbh theres no need for it joker won
mark S actually there is a need, I think pennywise won this one
@@akulahirpada1993 "For the last time" 🤣🤣🤣
Man, raps aside, they nailed the acting and character mimicking
i was totally thinking that, outside of the lazy eye that bill skarsgård does.
I know the Pennywise voice is amazing
I know right specially pennywise
Ok so I read "raps" as "rapes" an jeez I can't stop laughing xD
@@PVTAJB93 He does it at the end when he says wall eyed :p
way to capture the whimsical childlike side of Pennywise, while still making him unsettling and sinister. This is actually insane how well you all pulled him off.
Ikr?
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@@gabrielhatch1235 blaze it
@@fibbthehuman damn :(
It is one of his best jobs so far.
First: This is truly ERBs masterpiece.
Second: I sincerely thing the person playing Joker in this should be the new DCU Joker. A marvelous homag to Mark Hamill's Joker while still having their own style.
It's Peter. I love how some of the best ERBs(Marx vs Ford, Spielberg vs Hitchcock, NicePeter vs Epic Lloyd 2) are just these 2 guys battling it out.
nice peter is who played the joker, and i agree. he did such an amazing job in this battle. which he typically does, him and lloyd are amazing at what they do.
Nice peter always does good. But even EpicLLOYD killed it on this one. He nailed Pennywise perfectly
These guys are legit actors with too much time on their hands
Can I just say what a miracle it is that NicePeter's Joker performance isn't cringy or embarrassing? There are so many Mark Hamill impersonations out there and maybe one out of every hundred isn't painful to watch/listen to. So it is a huge testament to his talent and commitment as a performer that I can watch this without squinting through the whole thing. I feel like a lot of people try way too hard to be faithful to Hamill's Joker, and they wind up sounding forced and desperate. Even though I hear Hamill's Joker in NicePeter's voice, it sounds more influenced by him than it is painstakingly trying to recreate his voice, which you just can't do. I just really respect him as an artist.
mever thought about that
He was making amends for his Batman performance.
NicePeter's Joker should ask that Batman where his goddamn electric car is.
Because Joker here put up a better fight for Batman than Batman did against Zach Sherlock.
Sorry, but that wasn't the best way to play Bats.
@@blackjacktrial That's why I'm SOOO glad they waited to do Joker until now. I don't think there was ever any chance that Batman performance was going to be good back in 2012 or whenever it was. And Joker probably would've had the same "yikes" energy if they had tried to portray him back then. It's crazy how much both Peter and Lloyd have evolved as artists.
Also, I haven't seen the Harley Quinn animated show, but I get your reference.
@@blackjacktrial he put a deposit down!
*"It's like cocaine, you know what I said. I don't know how any kind of joke could go over that head."*
I love that line from Joker since he was referring to Stephen King using cocaine which was the reason why he forgot he wrote Cujo.
I will never get over him forgetting the entire writing process of chip
The forgetting was propably more due to alcohol. Cocaine doesn't make you forget things at all
@@antifantastisch4467 It's a fact that it was due to cocaine if you research, or do i have to do that for you
@@bri_lala6960 "Cujo was written during a period where King was both high on cocaine constantly and sometimes getting blackout drunk, and in his later memoir On Writing, the author admitted he barely had any recollection of doing so. "
Obviously
the voices that both these guys did for both characters were absolutely too accurate
So scary
Dang, a heart
Joker sounded exactly like Mark Hamill
@@Fourexponent I know he really did
Dude I have lego obi as my pfp for discord so when I saw this I was like wtf
0:19 "but i cant be killed that's why they cast a Phoenix to play me" BAR
That aged poorly
They all bars pennywise did more though
It’s interesting how Mark Hamill’s version of the joker is so iconic that it’s basically become the default voice for the character
It's the only Joker voice to me. Anything else is inferior.
He fuckin breathes that character man if you look at the behind the scenes of Arkham City hes doing some lines and he just loses himself he curls and juts and winds his fingers its just so enthrawling hes earned the title
Richard Epcar (voices joker in the injustice games) is also very good
Like how Kevin Conroy’s Batman is completely iconic too. Keaton and Bale were the best cinema versions of Batman in my opinion, but Conroy’s voice just breathes the character.
Remy Levine What about Val Kilmer? His voice was literally close to Kevin Conroy’s.
Joker getting deadly serious for a second when Pennywise threatens Batman is a really good touch
Anyone who kills Batman immediately puts themselves on Joker's kill list. He doesn't want Batman dead. It's too much fun with him alive!
Its a love/hate thing....
Man, if he'd ever loved Harley that much...
He cares about batman hes known Bruce since he was a kid and yeah getting dead serious was a nice touch
Agreed
"we live in a society"
He said it, he said the thing.
"Roll credits!"
Well boys
We did it
I still don't get that meme
@@calmarsden8692 So guys, we did it!
That was the best couplet in the whole thing.
Ask Robin if I drop bars:
(This is a reference to the 1988 Batman comic series "Batman: A Death in the Family" in which the Joker kidnaps Jason Todd (the second Robin) and brutally beats him with a crowbar, before leaving him for dead in a warehouse that is then blown up by a time bomb)
Or: Arkham Knight.
@@corrupted523bruh
Can we take a second to appreciate how these guys can portray any character, down to the costumes to the impersonation. Great stuff!
EpicLloyd could just go and play Pennywise. Maybe that would make the movies watchable?
@@iitamykkanen251 RIGHT!? He absolutely crushed it! Amazing performance.
They consistend
Consistent
Tommy Collier
Well except for Batman
"ask Robin if i drop bars"
damn.
DAMN.
That one was absolutely foul omg 😭😭
@@Sharon-Rizzi that was straight up violation fr.
"That there was a violation, personally i wouldn't accept that"
Yes, still too soon.
Oh dear christ..
Honestly it’s so in-character for the Joker to embrace the “We Live In a Society” meme with such contextual prowess here. Gosh this was a good video. Both clowns spit such great lines. I feel like the Joker’s humanity (what’s left of it) was really clear in his quips and nitpicks, in contrast to Pennywise’s condescending, monstrous, demonic perspective.
Also the voice delivery on both was FLAWLESS
Agreed
Where honor is a distant memory
Thanks for clueing me in about the "we live in a society" meme. That refferance went over my head
@ you're right 9/11 was years ago.
It's been 4+ years since this masterpiece dropped, and this is still my favorite. The makeup is just awesome, and this ERB shows off Peter and Lloyd both perfectly fitting and playing their parts, and loving every minute of it.
Wait wait wait “I leave scars, Guards in Arkham” Scars guards Bill Skarsgard played Pennywise
That’s some insane wordplay
🤯
"I take smiles and I leave scars, ask Robin if I drop bars, guards at Arkham will admit that the Joker just killed IT"
I know right!! Knox Hill pointed that out when he reacted to this, it went way over my head though
bruh
Many a deep cut reference resides in this particular battle.
this might be one of the most impressive visually they have ever done
When Pennywise is dancing and laughing, it's legitimately unsettling.
Fuck..after the joker basically called that mofo a child molester..he couldn't some back with an A.K. to top that shit..damn..slayed that fucking clown
@@graciehunt7285 "I'm the John Wayne of the John Wayne Gacy's the underground clown posse"
John Wayne Gacy was the serial killer who worked as a birthday clown to case victims. He raped and murder boys.
If Joker implied Pennywise was a child molester, then Pennywise said "Well, yes. And much worse..."
alvatrous ya
The design work on Pennywise’s background is fantastic. And that bit when he opens his mouth? Incredibly well done
hearted
That mouth bit - My first thought was The Langolier's... Was that idea, or was it something from one of the recent movies that I only half remember?
@@xxxxSylphxxxx It's from the 2017 film. Only difference is they replaced the Deadlights with three floating Pennywise heads.
yea its on point.
Voice is spot on too
The line "You're supposed to be the man who laughs" is a reference to the 1928 silent film "The Man Who Laughs" which was the original inspiration for the joker, it tells the story of a boy named Gwynplaine and how he is disfigured with a permanent grin, he works as a sideshow, carnival freak and falls in love with a blind girl named Dea and is to become the pawn of royalty as a lord of England
“Ask Robin if I drop bars”
*holds up a crowbar*
🥺
They actually went deep into lore and memes with those bars, we gotta give erb credit
Loved that part
For those who dot get it. The Joker once bashed robins head in with crowbar.
@@nickirmen6671
To be fair, that part is common knowledge now.
I'd have preferred a line like "I'm the MC who Laughs" , that would be more lore digging. (Hint: Dark Night Metal)
"Even I wouldn't stoop to that kind of impropriety"
Imagine having the joker talk to you about morals
That happened to red skull when he wanted to team up with joker
Joker doesnt like nazis so he said hell no lmao, he wanted to take on red skull himself
As you said being morally questioned by the joker is a red flag lmao
He also stays away from the IRS, I mean, you've got to have some boundries, right?
@@robertlovlie5194 the IRS is one of the few things to put fear in Joker lol
@@ventomario3251 ain't that the one he avoid because if he doesn't pay taxes, it's the only thing he'd be forced to go to prison or something?
As if he had a moral high ground after the fun he had with Barbara in the Killing Joke and Lois in Injustice.
"No one is dying to play with joker , except for maybe Heath Ledger."
Darker than a black hole
Black holes are actually one of the brightest things that exist.
Though bringing up Heath Ledger isn't exactly a diss, given that even after Phoenix, Ledger is still the standart anyone playing the character will be measured by.
Shut up
@@fritzy8318 Make him
That’s fucked up
Endlessly clever and scary. This is one of your best.
"This is Earth you space demon. We live in a society!"
I love how the Joker of all people flipped that line to call Pennywise uncivilized.
Joker once said that he only kills when it would be funny, whereas Pennywise kills because he can. Having standards for killing is a pretty warped way of being civilized. Furthermore, he refuses to work with Nazis if he knows they're Nazis, and he pays his taxes on time, so, you know, there's that.
@@JoshuaRWorkman You have a point, my guy.
He's referencing the preteen gangbang scene in the IT novel, StePHen King's excuse for it was that he wrote it while on drugs.
@@grifflancer2999 Yes we're all aware.
@@grifflancer2999 stePHen King, not SteVen king.
Pennywise was played so well to the character.
Ikr, his face at 3:30 actually looks like Bill Skarsgard
That's EpicLloyd for ya, brilliant method actor. The way he played Hannibal Lecter* proves that even more
Arubaruna *Lecter
@@DThunder107 Ah shit, Heath Ledger was still in my head.
That opening "Hiya Jokie" hooked me
"Ask Robin if I drop bars
I take smiles and I leave scars"
A great line that was NAILED by Peter. I can't get over how cold the delivery of it is
That’s savage cause he Jason Todd because he hit him with crowbar like 27 times
I leave scars...guards (Bill Skarsgård- played Pennywise in IT) at Arkham will admit
🔥🔥
@@davidvallejo4556 That's freaking genius
"those jokes were like your new movie, mostly really sad", this aged like fine wine
Pennywise: threatens batman
Joker: Im about to end this whole mans career
@government of russia okay that first part sounded wrong but yeah their relationship is kind of rocky is what I would say
@government of russia what did you just call me?
Yeah and he would too - he doesnt have to wait 27 years to get his ass whupped by a group of kids, he just straight kills people when he feels like it.
best comment by far
not after joker wars
"A little more PG and a lot less 13" such a brilliant line.
I don’t get it
David Munguia let me explain, so in the book “IT” they say some pretty explicit things about a girl who’s 12 or 13
@@davidmunguia1020 In the book all the guys have sex with the girl so that they're not virgins when they face Pennywise. It goes into detail.
As soon as I was reading this comment the line came on
In the book the kids had a gangbang before they fought pennywise
I just realized the reason the Joker is a “Shining man” is because he was played by Jack Nicholson. Who was also the main antagonist in the Shining obviously.
That and King hated Kubrick's film adaptation of The Shining.
@@mimseydemon1844 he hated it so much that he directed a shitty TV version of The Shining. 😂
@@jerwwilliams guy had no clue how what good filming was tbh, kubric should have done all his work cus it was def the best before the more modern stuff came out.
Oh shit! Thanks for this.
@@mimseydemon1844 can’t blame him, the movie is pretty overrated ngl, it takes wayyyy too long for no payoff throughout the movie
1:29 the way it goes from serious and rude to oddly calm makes that part get stuck in my head 24/7
Joker snapped when pennywise threatened bats. Thats a real homie right there
Lmao joker's the enemy we all need 🤣 "ay only I get to mess with bats"
Joker: "if anyone's going to kill that bitch it's going to be me."
Bruh sound effect
Don't forget the time he put a guy in a casket and tried killing him in a vat of acid for "killing" batman.
that’s the whole plot of lego batmam lbr
The shading and definition of Joker's facepaint and costume to give him a live-action comic book aesthetic is absolutely incredible
Yes. It's basically a live action comic Joker.
It also helps that he only blinks during laughs. A lot like Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World
Best part is joker getting pissed when he dared to threaten his Batman
Honestly there were so many "best parts" in this. This is one of the best battles they've done in a while.
The battle, yes. The video is distracting and seems kind of cheesy imo. It's really taking away from it.
seigeengine I feel like that’s part of the Joker in a lot of his adaptations. Cheesy works in my opinion.
@@seigeengine for me it complemented it, considering the style of the two characters. I love all the effort put in the background
seigeengine The visuals are easily the best part of this video, after the references. What is wrong with you?
This is still their magnum opus imo. To top this they need some serious inspiration.
everyone subconciously knows this is their magnum opus because there isn't any new content being produced that would have this kind of widespread appeal with its depth
I would personally take Theodore Roosevelt vs. Winston Churchill over this one, and I'd also say that east vs. west philosophers deserves to be at the table, and Harry Potter vs. Luke Skywalker earns at least an honorable mention... That said, I ain't gonna tell you you're wrong, cuz this versus is unquestionably legendary enough to make the case for #1
@@Ashe_Blackflight Production, acting skill, line delivery, references, special effects, yeah, it's not perfect, but I still put this just a step above those three. They are very good, no doubt, it just feels like the crew went a little further with this one.
The mad men did it. They let everyone know we live in a society.
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I feel dumb, what is the relevance to the society line?
"This is gay"
@@aaronvincent816 a reference to an internet meme that flooded the comment section of most of the Joker movie's trailers.
Joker stoping to clarify his cocaine joke was pretty smart.
What 's about the cocaine joke. i don't get it :c
@@long6632 "he wrote you in between the lines" aka lines of snorting cocaine
especially since they showed pennywise even confused, knowing that it would be a hard joke to get until the clarified the cocaine...... and then even roasting pennywise by not understanding the cocaine joke by making fun of his forehead.. such amazing 3 lines by joker right there
Do u know what’s not smart? STOPING instead of Stopping😂😂
😯, thank you
God damn they nailed Joker's characterization, right down to him getting defensive over Batman.
Both of them nailed it. Pennywise sounds exactly like the films.
@@ransax True, but I'm especially impressed with how they portrayed joker. As soon as he said "don't you lay a finger on my bats" I immediately thought to myself "That is SO something the Joker would say!"
@@toysouldier1 right?! 😂
In his last scene he hold up the camera he used to take a photo of Barbara Gordon bleeding out after he shot her.
This is MK11 joker
3:18 pennywise has insane flow fr
The bars were crazy too
I love how Joker immediately started getting defensive when Pennywise threatened Batman because that's exactly something Joker would do if someone tried to kill Batman
He forgot to say no homo tho
@@DioStandsStill nah man not even the Joker is homophobic
@@milesdavis607 hmmmmmmmmm
i mean in the cartoon he killed harly for capturing batman...
Well Batman is Joker's favourite toy.
I don’t care who won, but the dude playing penny wise killed the look, the voice and even the mannerisms.
It honestly creeped me the fuck out, which I’m sure was entirely the point.
It is mostly always the same two actors for the rap battles. Pennywise was EpicLLOYD
XD nice!
Yeah Lloyd did a great job. I think Pete's rap won the day though.
Even in the title card, where he is smiling and suddenly breaks character like in the movie 0:11
"hey Peter how many references do you think we should put in this one?"
"Yes"
Seriously. I've got to give them credit for some of them, especially the Joker's references. Some really deep cuts there.
The reference to the death of Jason Todd got me for sure that was definitely an oooof moment
That Fellow Over There freaking smart ass
@@kshellb6 So was the Bob Kane and Bill Finger one.
Yea I wasn't expecting a reference to Cask of Amontillado. Made my day though
To this day the "When I flow I go Mark Ham with ill zingers" line is one of my favorite pieces of wordplay ever
I’m so impressed by his pennywise voice. It’s like right on.
Ikr
He stayed in the character i really like that
Nuggets Nugget and the look
what??? It sounded Like Scooby Doo
@@FGOKURULES Yeah Pennywise's voice kinda sounds like Scooby if you listen well lol
Indiana Jones vs. Han solo
Just have Epic Lloyd rap against himself.
Oh yes!
Yes!!
Yes
Devin Taylor or Han Solo and Chewbacca vs Rocket Raccoon and Groot
Maybe. He’s a little short though. That could make for a fantastic joke.
Just came back after 2 years of this being out. "Nobody's dying to play the joker, except for maybe Heath Ledger". This was made by Mean Peter and Evil Lloyd.
I don't get that line tbh
@Suika Ibuki "Nobody's dying to play the Joker, except for maybe Heath Ledger". Dying, as in they're still alive because Heath died after acting the role of Joker.
@@nova2._. oh damn 😲
Joker seems like he doesn't know what do say, but how about, Ledger won an Oscar for this, and many of my actors ARE Oscar winners? Anyway, first Joker likens himself to the devil, then this supernatural creature mentions how he LIKES the devil in reality who he apparently KNOWS. This could be a reason for Joker's reaction, a reminder that he is human like everyone else, and also why he later attacks this space-demon for not applying to human society on Earth.
@@markusnashorn1145it's a joke about an actor committing suicide it's not that deep.
2:13 I can’t even explain how much I love this, the weird effect on the voice, the dance getting faster, the head seemingly being edited in, they’re all just so well done
Nobody is talking about
"Tell your author for his next gangbang scene, a little more PG and a lot less 13"
That is one of the best lines I've ever heard from this channel
@Ryno Gaming Saaaammeee. I paused the video and went :o
This scene from the book obviously not there in any of its movie adaptations 😅
This is one of the best Rap Battle's I've heard from this channel.
@@yoginc too bad 😈
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Joker's third verse was perfection. Everything from "Don't you lay a finger on my bat" to "a little more PG and a lot less thirteen" all the way to "We live in a society" was marvelous. One of my favorite overall verses ever.
I'm a massive, massive fan of basically every line Joker has in this. Bob Jane Bill Finger is a zinger, but one of my favorites is "when I compare your antics to the fiendish schemes I revel in, they pale like the moonlight you can dance with the devil in." A clear nod to Nicholson's Joker. That and "I'm a Shining man, wink".
Of course I also love Pennywise's last verse, with the Cask of Amantillado, John Wayne of John Wayne Gaceys the underground clown posse, and best walleyed rapper since the Notorious B.I.G. All also staggeringly genius.
Agreed
@@mechaCrusader17 one of my favorite verses in ERB if not just for the reference, wordplay, rhyme scheme all tying together so well
joker's from dc not marvel
@@razkanaz Marvelous. The word, marvelous. It's an actual word.
The acting here is on ANOTHER LEVEL. I got chills for both portrayals.
I have to agree the mark hamil joker impression was really good by nice peter, and epicloyd as pennywise was on point. Both of them did amazing.
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It’s time we admit this is the best that ERB has ever done. The lyrics, the wordplay, and the production are exquisite.
Did they really make joker say "we live in a society?"
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2:49 Yes he did. 😎👍
Mockingly, though.
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Don’t forget joker is evil, but even he isn’t too evil to punch a nazi~
Joker getting upset about the Batman threat is so on point.
He embodies the idea “no one doesn’t get to kill you except me”
@Gabriel Gledhill what refrence is that?
You also forgot the heavy theory that Joker and Batman could actually be brothers. Considering how much he knows about Bruce and his whole family even claiming to have been there when his parents were killed. Also we know Joker has been to a mental hospital and depending on how old you are when witnessing something so terrifying you either have a foggy memory of it and only becomes clear when you let yourself remember or it scars you for life leaving you with a fucked up brain and you can never let it go. It’s possible the Joker saw what happened and it left him fucked up for life, which could explain why he was in an asylum for so long until he got the help of Harley. Poor Harley too considering she developed Stockholm syndrome from being with Joker even though there is no love. Harleen is being heavily abused simply because her clown prince of crime is fucked up. Wouldn’t surprise me if he ended being Batman’s brother in one of the movies they’ll likely make or remake.
@Gabriel Gledhill Seems legit too
Joker would never kill Batman. He has an unhealthy obsession with him and wants to spend his life annoying him. Almost like love.
@@shadamy4ever212 what…. How does that make any sense? Why would the waynes have kept a second child a secret? And Joker hasn’t lived in Arkham his whole life, he appeared soon after Batman.
This is really only a legit theory if you’re talking about the Joker movie, which is so far removed from the comics it’s ridiculous. It’s an ok movie don’t get me wrong, but it’s not Joker. At all. Like, it completely takes the point of his character and shoves it down the drain.
The idea of making Batman and Joker brothers is just dumb. Not to mention all the flirting and sexual innuendos he frequently taunts Batman with in the comics
Ok seriously: in the entire history of ERB, this has got to be one of the best examples of lines, flows, costume, Easter eggs, accuracy battles ever. FLAWLESS
Especially the accuracy. THE ACCURACY!! Every bar was brutal.
seriously. holy cow
Watch oppenheimer vs thanos.
This and James Bond vs Austin Powers are the best
@@asmurf2675 Its good, but too one sided in my opinion
I come back to this every few months. One of the greatest videos on all of RUclips
“Ask robin if I drop bars” bruh don’t do that. That hurt me.
I swear that bar went over so many people's heads
It hurt Robin too.
Democracy spoke!
Jason has left the chat
The line came when i read your comment
"Ask Robin if I drop bars, I take smiles, and I leave scars."
The flow here was unbelievable.
the heath ledger line was brutal though so penny won
I'd give them a tie. They both burned eachother to a crisp not even comparable to Harvey Dent.
...guards at Arkham will admit...
I leave scars...guards at Arkham
I leave Skarsgård at Arkham
That line literally gave me the chills. Like jeez that was smooth
Peter and Lloyd have incredible chemistry.
Best Disses: Joker
Best Flow: Pennywise
Winner: Costume Department
Loser: Jason Todd.
@@Big_Wash01 Brutal lol
@@Treadstone2006 Terror Are You Saying Joker Won This Battle
@@Big_Wash01 LMFAOOOOO
That Heath Ledger line was pretty harsh I have to vote for Penny Wise for best diss.
This is the true masterpiece of ERB rap battles and its not even close
Ask robin if I drop bars was the sickest line ever.
Poor jason
(Says sarcastically ) yea that line was sooo sick (says my outdated grandmother )
@@nata1iee - hhhhhhhhhwat.
Agreed, I literally winced at that one. Gotta appreciate the little references here and there.
Just as I was about to say that 😂😂😂
Erb still likes comments on this video after 1 year!? Also we need a part two of this battle
Here before this blows up 😉
Damn they liked so fast
@@kaidenhartley334 yeah they liked in like 30 minutes
@@rain6127 It didnt lol
@@Based-Anti-Theist yeah I notice lol
I love how the Joker's voice is close to Hamill.
Bro you listening to the same song?
Jake Hiser eh it’s similar, atleast the voice is inspired by Mark Hamill’s portrayal it seems, which is nice
Jake Hiser yes
Surrender Dorothy nah it was kinda cringey
Surrender Dorothy honestly he’s the epitome of the joker
I don't know if its me just discoving it but 1:43-1:45 "when i flow i go mark ham with ill zingers" referencing mark hamill (the goat) is genius in my opinion
This entire line’s worth a million bucks:
“Ask Robin if I drop bars, I take smiles and I leave scars, guards in Arkham will admit that the Joker just killed IT.”
In my time, that's the most sublimely packed line I've seen in a rhyme.
Lots of folks missed the subtle wordplay in this bar that makes it extra special. “I leave scars, guards”, “Scars, guards” = Skarsgard, which is the last name of the actor who played the latest Pennywise
@@j.e9971 I know, that's why this one is particularly good!
scars, guards, refers to skarsgard, that is just straight up incredible references from ERB.
@@j.e9971 bruh 🤯
“Ask Robin if I drop bars.”
Jesus Christ dude.
Amen
Beautiful
Honestly Joker fucking killed it
That was a solid line!
I spit out my water lmao poor Jason
I like how they managed to mention every single actor who played the Joker.
Not every actor, just the major ones
@@Jigsaw-vh5xv Cameron Monaghan
@@brandonellis8111 Yeah
Brandon Ellis love him
That was really sweet.
I watch this at least once every two months. One of the best!!
“Ask robin if I drop bars”
Jesus Christ I wasn’t expecting that
Lydia Ziad I was looking to see if anyone else noticed this line.
Hah, same here.
That line was savage
I don't get it :'(
@@jennychionidi8495 Jason Todd, the second Robin, was beaten to death by the Joker with a crowbar.
The voices for pennywise and the joker were both outstanding.
#FACTS
They were but half the time all I could match Pennywise's voice to was Scooby Doo and it was disturbing af.
@@BurningSnoMan it was like spot on from the movie. Lol
The key to any Joker voice is to do a Mark Hamill impersonation.
Yeah. That's a nice Hamil impression. Gotta give props
“Ask Robin if I drop bars”
A year later it still hits hard, I love this battle
Yea it hit hard for Robin too
@@davejones2502 specially for him
Your comment was smashing!
@@ZombieDoc_ I didn’t even realize the pun when I wrote the comment 😂
@@Project_Delusions I got you!
The visuals on this one are so stunning!!!
“Ask Robin if I drop bars.”
Jason Todd: *Sweats profusely.*
We have a winner
can you teach my uncultured ass what tha tline means?
@@undviik1702 In the batman animated series Red hood (movie), there was a second Robin that was beaten by a crowbar and then was blown up to death. He returns as red hood afterwards.
Joker basically did just that.
Edited since people wasn't aware of the animated series that was on CN.
@@LeonCamero Not the animated series, just the movie Under the Red Hood. And the comics, of course.
@@LeonCamero It was a reference to “A death in the family” 4 part comic run. Where people could call a 800 number and tell DC comics if the wanted to kill Jason Todd or let him live. People overwhelming wanted him dead, so in the series Joker beat him nearly to death with a crowbar and then blew him up in a ware house. Not in the batman animated series, they just skipped over him and went to tim drake. Watch “Batman: under the red hood” if you want a better explanation.
@@undviik1702 It was a reference to “A death in the family” 4 part comic run. Where people could call a 800 number and tell DC comics if the wanted to kill Jason Todd or let him live. People overwhelming wanted him dead, so in the series Joker beat him nearly to death with a crowbar and then blew him up in a ware house. Not in the batman animated series, they just skipped over him and went to tim drake. Watch “Batman: under the red hood” if you want a better explanation.
“No ones dying to play the Joker except for maybe Heath Ledger”
Ouch
I was like "It's still to fucking soon.."
Dutch Torreyson F’s in the chat
Ok that was low to the belt damn and brutal
F
thats the hardest bar here
This is one of their cleaner rap battles when it comes to language but you'd never notice it. The insults are vicious enough without the cussing.
I think they did that on purpose too because (and i might be wrong idk comics well) joker doesnt cuss much at all, neither does pennywise
Yeah there was only 1 cuss word but it was still vicious
Their cleanest ERB I personally say it's Mother Theresa vs Sigmund Freud
@@shikshasingh5398 which one was it
@@TheKlutz31013 1:33
The holds up so well, I can't believe the depth of the work you did on this.
My goodness Epic Lloyd’s Pennywise voice is phenomenal
I love that Joker got pissed off and territorial when IT brought up Bats.
Ayyee death note lol
Bruce Wayne you mean penny wise
Batman is Jokers obsession. His only reason to live. In many cases he mostly cared about tricking Batman than actually getting money or any other plan working.
ƐlysᎥan Pennywise is just one manifestation of the eldritch being known as “IT”. Have you not read the book, or even watched the movie or miniseries?
Space Pirate Roberts Ok how can you expect someone to read a book that’s about as big as The New Testament?
"No one's dying to play with Joker, except for maybe Heath Ledger"
Holy shit, they went there
Jamie Bridgeman Bruh
@Jamie Bridgeman Bruh
@wIL Heath Ledger got so into the role of joker, for method acting sake, that he exposed himself to a lot of un-wellness for his mental being, and ended up dying in a manner that seems to have resulted from it. Dude literally poured his everything into it, and dammit if it doesn't show.
@@YCCCm7 He died by overdosing on pills
YCCCm7 that didn’t “seem to be the cause”, it’s an unlikely theory as to what caused him to OD
This is the best one ive seen. The impressions, the references including some deep cuts, and the flows were all great. Ive listened so many times lol
How is no one talking about Peter’s great Joker impression
Between Peter's Joker and Lloyd's Wolverine, I think DC and Marvel need to give these guys a call?
Dude, EVEYBODY up and down the threads here is talking about that.
From some angles he started to look like MatPat
Their impression are awsome as always. I think epicloyd won in terms of impression tho. That Pennywise is really on point
@@moosengame3254 I thought I was going crazy
"You're supposed to be the man who laughs"
SO SUBTLE IT TOOK ME 3 YEARS TO SPOT!!!!
The Man Who Laughs is a Victor Hugo novel adapted to film in 1928, with a main character who has a huge permanent grin due to disfigurement. Bob Kane, Bill Finger and Jerry Robinson have all said that The Joker's appearance was inspired by a photo of Conrad Veidt (the lead actor) from that film, and the 2005 graphic novel Batman: The Man Who Laughs is named as an homage. I encourage you to Google the actor, the resemblance is spooky.
Holy shit You are right oo''
That makes this line even more awesome.
And I was thinking Batman who laughs
And I was thinking Batman who laughs
I feel like every ERB has such tightly wound references that every line represents eight hours of research
"You stole that from H.P. Lovecraft"
Ok shape shifting space demon
Yeah kinda the pot calling the kettle black there, but then again, these two aren't supposed to be fair.
Then again the creature it is can't compare to any old ones in hp lovecraft
Who? The closest I can think of is Nyarlathotep.
@@tamroberts7303 father dagon for one shib nigurath for another , the hounds of tindal also are pretty Scarry
@@acsalexandruandrei9377 They lack the shape shifting quality. I believe only Nyarlathotep shape shifted. Maybe the Shaggots.
This has gotta be there best battle. Great costumes/make up, super clever lines, great performances by pete and lloyd. All around perfect matchup.
“Ask robin if i have bars” *jason left the chat*
I think he already left the chat when joker beat him with the crowbar.
Drop*
It's funny cus it's ture
Talk about good vibes
It's funny cus it's true
Not even Pennywise can scare the Joker. The only people who can scare the Joker are the IRS
only a select few will get that joke and im glad to be one of them
ha! got that reference!
Nice Joker's Millions reference.
So glad to be part of the joke
Is it bad or sad that I got that?
“no one’s dying to play the Joker except maybe Heath Ledger”
oH nO hE diDn’T
Exceptionally poor taste on that one but I still think this is my new favorite
We don’t talk about Him
🤣🤣🤣
@@devondevon5294 thats part of pennywise character
yeah but noone gave aFUCK ABOUT THE DAMN SUPErMAN LINE
come on dude get over it
I give these guys credit for all the work they put in. Especially so e of the dance moves I see in thier videos. I imagine it's not easy learning all of them
The amount of Easter eggs, references, and allegories in Joker's rhymes & video package is off the charts. Well done, guys!
Can you explain a few of them? I love joker, but I hate that so many of his lines don't make sense too me.
@@sinistersweet5236 which ones?
@@sinistersweet5236 2:55 when the joker says "ask robin if i drop bars"...
joker beat robin to death with a crowbar in the comics.
@@toamatau8785 @3:03 that pose is from The Killing Joke.
@@darkcloud12345678900 also in the red hood
“Ask Robin if I drop bars.”
*Bruce Wayne and Jason Todd would like to know your location.*
*Bruce Wayne would've also liked to know Jason Todd's location. Oh well.*
Red hood is on his way
How do u make the words go bold
@@cm-nk4li Put them between * asterisks.
Lol! I'm happy that I now where that came from!
“Ask Robin if I drop bars”
[Jason Todd has entered the match]
@Nia Jones the most overrated part of the rap
Wait... oh that's messed up. Lol
i heard my name?
Nia Davies BRUH
1:49
When Joker says spitting acid, you can see he comes onscreen with his hand on the flower of his suit.
Where his acid/Joker toxin is stored.
These small touches of detail are amazing.
I've watched this a few times a year, because it's just so good. Honestly can't even tell you who has the better flows. Both are so good and played incredibly well!