Why Do So Many Top BJJ Competitors Avoid MMA ?
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2020
- Why don't we see more BJJ world champions coming over to fight in MMA? This is today's question for a Chewy ramble. Now this isn't a specific technique question but it's interesting and I figured I'd share my opinion.
Now keep in mind there are plenty of high level Brazilian Jiu-jitsu fighters making their way into Mixed Martial Arts. But for reasons I share in the video, I think you may (I say may because I don't have hard data) have fewer getting into MMA these days. It's probably the same reason why fewer boxers and kickboxers get into MMA.
Primarily I think people have other options for using their skills to make a living.
Back in the day BJJ was a much smaller sport with little money in it. So if you spent 10+ years developing this fighting skill you pretty much had to fight in order to make a living. These days you can make a decent living doing BJJ if you have the right skills.
I know from my experiences the reasons I share in the video were true to me.
Hopefully you found the video interesting. Thanks for watching. I'll talk to you next time.
-Chewy
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It's much more relaxing trying to defend from the guard knowing the opponent can't start pummeling you into the ground
Agree
Agreed. Not to mention bottom mount...
You are litterally everywhere
Yeah that sure stopped kabib from pummeling the fuck out of all the BJJ guys who thought the same way.
@Johannes Terzis you get just as much brain damage from being choked out smarty. not even gonna get into the joint damage.
Just a small tip though. If you’re training Jiu Jitsu for self-defence you need to do Boxing, or something like Muay Thai as well for at least a year, because you need to know what it feels like getting hit. I’ve been training Jiu Jitsu in a great club but I swear that a couple of the more senior belts that have only done Jiu Jitsu still don’t know how to defend against punches either standing or on the ground. Nothing wakes you up like a right hook to the face out of nowhere and you don’t want to be getting hit in the head for the first time in a street fight. Just my opinion.
Great advice
@Mobile Games Check out the fight between Royce Gracie vs Kimo Leopoldo and get back to me.
@@MP-ic3li How about Royce Gracie vs Matt Hughes? :)
@Mobile Games
To be fair, you did say vs a "trained opponent."
I can't speak for all schools that teach bjj for self defence, but mine will always tell you not to fight trained opponents if you don't have to....and if you absolutely have to, you better be good at taking the fight to your area of strength.
I mean what's this hypothetical opponent trained in? Are they far more experienced in their art than I am in mine? If so, then of course I'm going to struggle lol. We all would. A highschool wrestler isn't going to beat a pro muay thai fighter lol
Am I in an MMA fight where I have to engage to score points thus opening myself up to taking shots? Or am I in a parking lot where i can run and don't have to engage until someone over commits on a punch thus allowing me to shoot in for the clinch or double leg?
Everything has it's weaknesses. modern MMA evolved because a grappler was dominating some strikers who had no ground game (even if it wasn't royce, you could've taken any outstanding college wrestler with size and they would've mauled the first couple UFC's...and later, they did just that)
Strikers had to learn grappling, forcing grapplers to have to learn striking.
Any form of martial arts isn't the end all, be all. If prime Mike tyson got taken down by prime karelin, he's fucked. Same thing if karelin can't close the distance and eats punches from Mike.
I think I kinda understand your point-no bjj practitioner should be cocky, just not sure why it seems like you have so much animosity toward BJJ.
I’ve been training bjj for about 3+ years and 1 year of Muay Thai. I totally agree with you as a novice. It’s also good to know what you’re capable of when getting punched.
How hard can you get hit, and still think? Not very many people know that answer. Side note, I suck
Because everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face, Mike Tyson.
Everyone has a plan til they get heel hooked as well
@@Felix-fm3tu good point 🤔
Felix haha i can imagine trying a dumb heel hook in the streets againt a good fighter, im a blue belt but that would be suicidal, im avoiding bjj unless im taken down, and my wrestling is “decent”
@@recipoldinasty good point, but as a true "grappler" alot of Bjj guys add some Judo to there game. So in the streets you can stay standing and take your opponent down finish with a aggressive lock and break them lolol 🤣
Khebab Nurmainbred in da streetz you say?
That was THE PERFECT answer!! I did striking for many years, but the neurologist told me I better stop (multiple concussions, including soccer) - now I absolutely love grappling (still do a little striking, too). At 53, heads shots aren’t the best idea. 😜
Hell, I would argue they're never a good idea xD
53 and still training.
Goals mate. Respect
Pandemisis Osssss
Lou g Xx11 😆
Yeah I am 20, but, epileptic. So striking is nono for me.
But even if i could wave a magic wand and make epilepsy dissapear, I wouldn't compete in anything that has to do with striking (would train tho) - Answer why to is because I study human brain and I now what risk presents itself when your head gets constant hard blows to the head on daily basis.
It is not pretty.
Now that MMA has evolved into a style in and of itself, BJJ isn't as big as a differentiator as it used to be. You have to so well rounded that BJJ alone isn't enough to be good at MMA.
Exactly. Here some reasons other I can think of:
1. Sport jiu jitsu does not translate into MMS well.
2. I do jiu jitsu for self defense and for the love of the art.
3. I do it for exercise and for friendships. Train, talk, and hangout.
4. It is very low risk and I can go to my job the next day looking fine.
You’re right, sports jiujitsu doesn’t translate too well into MMA. Thats why I study Gracie Jiujitsu who actually kept to the self defense aspect.
@@mr.j3371 My school also adheres to the traditional Rickson Gracie way.
* thanks for the correction, I originally typed MMS -> MMA.
"I do jiu jitsu for self defense and for the love of the art. " there is neither art nor self defence anywhere in bjj
@@SINdaBlock411 I can understand the argument in terms of defense, but why wouldn’t their be art in bjj?
@@Jordanthecool7 art is beautiful, all I see in bjj is either a bunch of dorks or a-holes dryhumping one another in 20 million ever so slightly different ways, so unless you consider g** p*rn a form of art, kama sutra style, I just don't see it
The mind is the source of reality. I’ll live in 1080p rather than 240p as long as I can.
Lmao
Been involved in kickboxing since a young age and I have been doing more Jiujitsu these past few years. I’d take a good crushing /smashing over leg kicks and punches any day.
This is a very important and great video Chewy!
All seriousness, MMA has evolved so much, you HAVE to be proficient in BJJ to have a chance and with very few exceptions. It’s not enough on its own to just be dominant in BJJ
yep, the fight with Cub Swanson is a great example of this. Same with Galavo and woodley. Great at BJJ the sport but can't get the takedown to use it against high level mma guys with great TDD.
it’s been enough for garry tonon. he’s dominating while also sharpening his striking skills.
Jon Jones last time I looked was only a blue belt.
John Morris Even a blue belt has trained BJJ for a year or two, you’re making my point for me lol
That is absolutely false, and is delusional BJJ Propaganda
I started doing BJJ because I'm a fan of MMA however, I got to go to work in a public facing job so going in with a black eye etc would cause a whole loads of trouble.And what chewy said about the money very true, I remember Benson Henderson saying on a podcast that his fee for doing Polaris grappling was equal to a lot of his UFC payouts.
There's nothing wrong with doing BJJ and not MMA. But I fucking hate someone who only does BJJ, and has only done BJJ, talking tough like they are Royce Gracie. They talk like they can walk in to an MMA gym (which they never will, btw) and beat almost anyone instantaneously, even though they cannot hit a take down against a 150lb white belt and have zero striking experience.
Not everyone in BJJ is like that, but BJJ can create delusion in some people very quickly. If you don't want to do MMA, cool, I get that makes sense for you and indeed many people. But if you read this, don't be _that_ dipshit who thinks fighting stopped and started at UFC 1 and you are just like Royce because you have a blue belt even though you spend all your time butt scooting.
I thought nobody ended up getting paid for Polaris...
Tbf This was a while ago, don’t know what’s going on atm.
@Mobile Games train judo and you have self defense for street.
@@humann5682 you think Royce Gracie is tough ... he was the biggest fraud of them all
Because BJJ guys just want to smoke a blunt and flow roll.
You’re not wrong
I was never good and no gi scambling but when we would roll ground work with strikes I found it a completely different experience.
Shots to the ribs or head really open up windows of opportunity.
Chewy is the reason why I started training BJJ. I cant wait until I have an opportunity to travel to his gym and experience his gym... Kudos to Chewy. Thank you! Please keep doing your great work and sharing your perspectives.
great explanation! Sadly for my body and age I enjoy them all. stopped for 15 or so yrs. made a good living and going back at it. great cross training!!
that's why I love Garry Tonon, he's not all about the business side of it he wants to experiment and prove himself. If top BJJ players avoid MMA more and more the gap between fighting and BJJ is just gonna get bigger than it is, palhares and then garry are showing tactics and entries that evolve the game.
Your opinions it seems really true. Now I know, I also ask that question once from facebook.
Probably longevity. Striking takes its toll on the body way more than grappling (usually) you can gain grappling well into older age vs only being able to do things involving striking up to a certain point bc the risk of brain damage increases more and more
Additionally grappling you can go as hard or as gentle as you need to but striking you can only hit or be hit so softly before it becomes totally ineffective.
Chael, Lovato Jr, Dean Lister. So many great fighters went back to grappling. I really hope Khabib fights for the ADCC title one day.
I don’t think he would have a chance
@@jxhnschuessler6826 I'd still love to see him in pure grappling. He won at NAGA one year I think
jxhn schuessler can almost guarantee he’d at least win bronze
It'd be interesting to see but I don't know if he'd do well in a pure sub grappling format. Maybe if he took some time off fighting and went 100% into it.
But there's guys like GSP who's a great grappler who got subbed quick in the ADCC. Although wrestlers tend to do well in the event.
I doubt he'll take the time off from fighting to dive into pure grappling for very long. But I'd love to be wrong about that.
If he retires at 30 MMA wins, I hope he keeps grappling at least.
Here he is at NAGA a few years ago: ruclips.net/video/3s7c4fXGLqw/видео.html
For me, ive been training for 8 years. Ive medaled at nogi worlds at the adult level and have placed and won some opens and other stuff. Id like a couple fights for the challenge but for me, im simply not the fighting type. Not that i can't defend myself but its not my passion or goal. Grappling is. Thats just me though.
I like my nose to stay intact
Brain damage is no joke! To become good you cannot avoid sparring, and MMA sparring/any kind of striking martial art will give you head trauma! In grappling you might break some bones/tear some ligaments, but you will always be able to articulate yourself without sounding punch drunk!
For the longevity the best martial art will always be Jiu Jitsu, period!!
This can completely be negated by being smart and proactive about your sparring sessions. You do bjj for some years and you’ll practically be a cripple. I’m exaggerating but you’ll have so many nagging pains to moderate injuries. Or so I’ve heard. With striking, if you’re smart about it you’ll be in monster shape and athletic for decades . Everything has its risks man, I’d say taking some hits to the head is worth it so that you won’t get your head caved in by some dude in a street fight. And if you want to just mainly grapple for self defense, knowing striking can also allow you to do it better because you’re not deathly afraid of getting punched and can handle yourself standing up. This is just for self defense, as a career it would depend on what you like to do best mainly
If you don't train grappling correctly it could be way more dangerous than strikings art. In boxing, muay thai... you know that you can't be doing hard sparring everyday, but in grappling many guys go hard every day of the week. Cracking your neck, joints... everyday is very dangerous, especially the neck. Look at Bus Rutten, in the long term grappling is worse for your body because it is easier to train it incorrectly in my opinion. And if we are including the slams in training, then it is way more dangerous than striking arts although it doesn't look like that.
@@JA-jx1hk emphasis on 'some hits to the head'. At the end of the day many of us train in preparation for the need to defend ourselves, and in doing so, preserve our bodies/cognition. The problem with striking is that there is an extremely fine line between experiencing 'just enough' to make you respect the damage a punch can do and actually ending up receiving more damage in the process of training than you would in the real situation. Trauma to the head is a lottery in a way that even neuroscientists don't yet understand. Having said that, there are of course lots of things that can go wrong in grappling too.
@@jamietherooster I don’t think the line is as blurred as people make it seem, and neuroscientists seem to operate more on theory than practice. I remember a guy on joe rogans podcast saying that headers in soccer cause brain damage. At some point you’re just gonna have to accept it’s worth it and that many fun activities have the potential to mess you up. The key is to know what to look for in a gym that cares about your health and with good sparring partners. Like I said I think it’s worth it cause if you’re smart you can sustain minimal blows to the head in training, and then in a real world fight you can avoid being stomped out in an alley. Even something like super light Muay Thai sparring can help a lot
Great content Chew!
It also seems to me that BJJ specialization does not transfer to modern MMA as well as a wrestling background + some striking (primarily) or eventually the other way round. At least in UFC rules and now that everyone learns at least the basics.
Couple of guesses before I watch: CTE, and fighters who specialize in grappling and haven't trained much standup (because that doesn't help in BJJ competitions).
Hey chewy, do you still train any striking (muay thai, boxing, etc..) on a regular basis (once a week even)? Much love brother!
Chewy, how do you handle that one guy in the gym who acts like every roll is a match to the death, like he's rolling in the finals of ADCC? I've noticed these sort of guys usually aren't technically skilled, just strong and aggressive, and tend to injure people.
Or they could be an ex wrestler, I tend to roll harder than most because I had 5 years of just wrestling experience before I started bjj. Just talk to them and let them know.
@@PrettyyBoyyPatrick Well, not here (Australia, wrestling is unfortunately very hard to come by), but he is ex-rugby player, I have talked with him but he just laughs it off, and wonders why people don't want to roll with him.
Yeah same here having a wrestling background the pacing is just different I go into bjj with the mindset of rolling through positions as suppose to fighting for positions to keep the aggression down a bit
Practice hard. Get better than him. Beat him up
@@jessezitting9153 I already am lol, he's not a good loser
Good advice
Because there’s so much more money in high level BJJ....wait...never mind
Chris Pyle a lot more then there was 20 years ago. Trust me, I was there. There’s plenty of people making a good living. Maybe they’re not celebrity rich. But that’s not necessary to live a good life.
Chewjitsu It’s definitely encouraging. I watched Bodybuilding go through a similar transformation gosh, 25 years ago I guess? Now pretty much all those guys on the Arnold and Olympia stages are getting paid. Love your channel man, been a fan since I first started training 4 years ago because we are built identically and your tips work well for me. Give me another 4 years and maybe I’ll be fun for you to roll with lol
😂😂😂
Havnt you seen the pictures of Dillon Danis posing next to his Mitsubishi Eclipse? Pimping money son
Logan Doubleyou is that how you define wealth, having an expensive car?
I'm a MMA guy so I do kickboxing and Jiu Jitsu. The problem with Jiu Jitsu alone in the real world people will throw punches. Alot of people leave themselves way open for strikes while going for a submission. Do you know how many times someone went for a leg or armbar and got stacked and punched into oblivion? In a real fight people throw punches, elbows, knees. Jiu Jitsu is great, I love it - but It's important to put them all together or you'll end up getting smashed in any real fight.
Thanks for mentioning Dean, Chewy. He's my head grappling coach since 2006
Dean is one of my favorites.
Not every BJJ competitor fools himself that he’s “fighting” on the mat but maybe just enjoys the technical aspects, although being crushed, twisted and smothered in the absolute is one of the worst miseries one can experience in a competitive event.
Hi chewy!
Quick question about jiu jitsu belt systems and how they're implemented through time or hours on the mat. Im a white belt with just under a year to my journey but our coach has 12 years training but is still a purple belt for the past 7.... This i know is because he has been fighting in mma, constantly doing bjj tournaments and been really successful against brown and even black belts and even opened his own gym but only gets to train with his own couch once a week ( he trains 7 days a week and litteraly lives and breaths it ) i just want to know how the belt system works here , could he be a black belt or would he still have to go through the brown first?( not that the belt matters but it may hinder him with his own gym) Sorry for the ramble, love the content and thanks for the knowledge
as far as I know, federations such as IBJJF and CBJJ requires a minimum amount of years per each belt.
purple belt is one and a half year. So he's able to get the brown belt at any time but he'll need to serve a few years as a brown belt to get his black belt
@@caiosiqueira6138 makes alot of sense its one of those grey areas and is down to his own coach and is just a belt but was just confused about the situation and if that happens alot
I can't wait for the Usman vs Burns fight. Has been a while since we had a top bjj guy as champion.
@Mobile Games The same goes to any top wrestling guy in mma, that is also forced to learn bjj. I don't understand your point by stating this.
@Mobile Games Learning sub defense is the same thing as learning bjj. A good jiu jitsu guy don't really care if he gets taken down since he can pull a sub from guard. And a good jiu jitsu guy already has an idea on how to defend most of takedowns. I will say even more, if the striking is equal in a match between a top bjj guy and a top wrestler, the bjj guy has a natural advantage since he have more tools to finish the fight. And i don't really know why we are having this discussion since my first comment had nothing to do with wrestling.
You're also overlooking the fact that pure specialist grapplers can't compete at the highest levels of mma like they used to be able to. Damien Maia was the last ranked pure grappler and he had to develop high level striking to remain competitive in his last few years. Werdum @ heavyweight, but again only because his striking is also elite with KOs over likes of Mark Hunt.
"high level striking" Maia i mean maybe compared to everyone in the world but against UFC caliber opponents it was sub par striking.
Hi i need some advise on starting bjj. Hope you have a great day
Jujitsu guys like Gordon Ryan and Craig Jones might not make much from competition, but they make millions from instructional sales. Can’t do that in other sports. Also BJJ has a very, very devout following. Unlike mma, where almost all the fans spend $0 on the events.
Dave Odd CrackedStreams & r/MMAstreams has entered the chat
Do you also think that by the time it takes to get to the top level of grappling that people are already past their prime for MMA? BJJ black belt takes like 10 years to get so if they start training at 20 then they are already 30ish to transition to MMA
30 is prime tho
@@richardcantu855530 is prime if you’ve already been doing mma, but to just start mma at 30 is way too late in terms of going pro.
Make a video on the baratoplata and how to finish it please because there isn't any on how to cleanly finish it on youtube.
C'mon man I've been saying this for so many videos.
I think the grappling academy has a video. And teach me grappling.
I think another big reason is that sport bjj and self defence no-gi bjj are quite different nowadays, so a top sport bjj grappler knows a lot of advanced techniques that cannot be applied in combat and may not do as well as in the past without a lot of additional training. (I'm not an expert, just a blue belt) cheers
What belt should you start competing at? I am starting my BJJ journey next month and I miss sports and competing but know it will be a couple years before I can compete.
You can compete way sooner. I first competed when I was 4 months into Bjj. You just assume you have it pretty hard to win. But the sooner you start competing, the sooner you start to learn how to handle Bjj competitions, and your chances to have better results in the future
Here are my reasons.
Im a hobbyist so i can train 1 or 7 days a week for a grappleing tournament. When i did mma my coach wanted me to train every day mainly at least 5 days because his gym and rep was on the line so it felt like a job. Im not trying to turn pro so fuck that.
I can practice self defense better as a grappler because i can go up against guys 100+ pounds on me and if the tap is respected no one gets hurt. Im 130 pounds and in mma i spar with guys in the 200s occasionally but its usually slow sparing and i live off speed so its not good practice imo and the times we go harder its a bigger risk of injury for me.
Even though we train to fight i dont like hurting people i can tap you out safely most the time but a simple punch can break my partners nose knock him out and swell him up bad i dont want that im not a tough guy i train jiu jitsu so if one day some d bag wants to take out his life problems on me i can have the best chance winning or escapeing.
Head injurys suck i got into a street fight when i was 19 the guy was between 220 to 250 pounds i was young and stupid and took him on and needless to say i got my face smashed punched and stomped to the back of the head about 30+ times. That was 11 years ago i wear sunglasses everyday even in the winter cause the light is brutal. My doctor said my extreme light sensitivity is more than likely from that beating.
Damn bro this is a refreshingly honest post. You are not a delusional wanna be tough guy. You speak from experience. Would you agree that you just need to know just enough striking to get into a clinch or a takedown?
@@thedust850 umm many things depend every circumstance is different the more knowledge you have and can apply is always good but generally speaking if its a street situation the guy is going to be so angry that hes going to want to take your head off hes gonna try and blast you with everything he has so thats a perfect time to just shoot under his punches for a takedown or body lock him up. Me with my size im not going for a clinch most people are bigger then me and will win the clinch battle with strength. ill hit modified single legs double legs double leg grab with kouchi gake and tani otoshi. All those takedowns work great for me even against bigger guys. I can also duck under and pivot to try and take the back quickly if im slow ill usually end up im a headlock and will have to work those escapes but if i get the back ill pull him close most people will lean forward to counter my pull and ill let go and hit a rear double leg which is another takedown that works great on all sizes. Of course you can do all these if you strike first and all your strikes can lead to these takedown set ups. Its a battle though anything can happen i just try my best if i win cool if i get my face beat in well thats life. Study practice repeat.
@@darealist3342 makes sense...thanks for the reply bro.
Been training bjj far a few years now and I just only started kickboxing this month. Wish I had started boxing when I started grappling. Just once a week at least.
Sport is an entirely diff aspect and gives grapplers an option..I like some self defense simulation as it gets my punch block better from the guard. It depends on what motives the bjjer
I do researching traumatic brain injury and I can also say that the brain injuries from fights (boxing, MMA, muay thai, etc), especially head impacts on the ground during KO are real. 100% fact from the medical literature. So really it's up to the individual on what they want to do.
Chewy, what are your thoughts on teaching law enforcement BJJ? Would this have prevented some of the need to use deadly force, as in the case of Blake. If they knew bjj, they could have subdued him without ising deadly force.
I think teaching law enforcement is a great idea. I'm not sure it would have helped the situation or not. But it certainly couldn't hurt.
My students who are police officers are able to control situations very well without having to use deadly force as often.
Got Mackenzie Dern, Garry Tonon, Dillon Danis, and Gilbert Burns doing mma, and Demian Maia and Fabricio Werdum are still kicking around as far as I know.
Imagining Chewie going "oh geez..." When someone's mad dogging him, made my day.
Gilbert Burns...
Ryan Hall as well though seems like no one wants to fight him
Charles Olivera
Matthew Lazo Ryan hall plays a game most people can’t answer
Matthew Lazo Ryan hall is a high risk super high reward fight
Mackenzie Dern
Interesting the talk about longevity. All my injuries come from grappling. On the whole i dont get much more than a bloody nose or black eye from striking.
Long term head blows are very bad
@@emilegriffith1473 so are knee cartlidge tears and arthritis.
@@rez3320 id rather have those (which also just as easily happen in striking) than some shit that i can't take a pill or get surgery to dull pain or fix.. That cte sounds like some scary shit.
@@emilegriffith1473 Can only talk about me, but I do both and all my injuries cpme from rolling
While grappling beat more the body the striking has more damage on long term. Bone tendon can recovery hard knock-out not that much
It's a different ball game it's like they say you punch a black belt you make them into a brown belt you punch a brown Belt you make them into a purple belt and excetera excetera when gripping throwing passing is all you know that sense of pressure and domination gets diminished u try so hard to get a takedown and the guy pops back up it was all or nothing plus brain damage as someone who did grappling before i did mma huge difference i had to get use to it mma isn't for everyone
I think grapplers tend to be more patient and cold blooded, analitical people who are more interested in dominating their opponents than hurting them.
I would bet that grapplers think more about CTE from knock outs than mma guys who are actually get knocked out all the time.
Spending 3×20 minutes with getting hurt and hurting somebody for basically no reward then spending weeks with recovery for maybe get record of me being better at fighting than somebody else
VS
spendin the same time by going to a bjj gym spending 3×20 minutes to learn a new crazzy upside down roll to get the back from dlr, learning the technical aspect of a grip and learn a new clothes choke.
And go to to 3 competitions for the next few weeks bc you are absolutly fine. And have a healthy long life.
Wich option is more reasonable for a grappler?
One of my coaches has broken his arm 3 or 4 times during his MMA career and can't fully extend his arm anymore, so he's strictly our no gi coach now.
So...are we all just going to ignore Chewie's busted blood vessel eyeball thingy? I was totally distracted from the video watching that thing every time he turned his eyes to the right (my left.) Just patiently waiting for a cool story and left unsatisfied. Come on Chewie, I have to know! Spazzy white belt? Competitive purple? Hangover from previous night? Cat allergies?
And great video as always by the way!
john episcopo haha just an accidental poke in the eye.
I’m 17 and going threw all of the videos I can find, I REALLY wanna start bjj but I don’t know if it’s right for me it looks AWESOME. But I have never done anything like it since I was so young all I ever did was basketbal and soccer, Soo all my skills right now are running, jumping (I’m only 5’6 and white, so I’m very proud of how high I can jump) and shooting along with a GREAT endurance, but I’m very hesitant and nervous about joining and afraid that it’s may be a waste but I think I want to do it, I’m on the fence yk, I don’t wanna be that “new guy” or the trash can in the gym
Bro just do it
Ur thinking way too much about it. U get in the gym and everyone respects that, they welcome new people. You’re doing everyone a favor by joining. Do it for a day or so and you’ll know if it’s right for u. It’s right for anyone
Does anyone know whay Chew didn't make a vedio about khabib or Dagestan grappling 😕😕😕😅😅
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Bc even the most elite strikers still get Kod badly.. Anderson, GSP, Crocop, etc.. brain cells are precious.
Another reason could be the fact that MMA has evolved. Gi Bjj used to be the best grappling system, but nowadays MMA specific grappling is more effective in the cage
Why do competition dojos promote there bjj as self defense when addressing strikes and such are taken out...so then it's sport jiu jitsu not self defense jiu jitsu am I correct
Anybody have links to Chewy’s MMA fights?
It's similar to why many boxers stay in boxing, wrestlers stay in wrestling and muay Thai fighters stay in Muay Thai. You understand where I am getting at ?
That’s like why boxer don’t do Mma I think people just stick to the art they been doing. But I started tkd and the transfer to Mma
The reason I stopped striking or at least don't do it often is because I can spar in BJJ for long periods of time and leave without any pain or injury. Striking hurts more and I can't train as hard for the same amount of time in the day. Getting hit sucks. I can take a hit but I'd rather not
Hey Chewy!
Here’s a question, so I have just booked my first BJJ class and am really fascinated and excited
The only problem is... I am THE MOST ticklish person on the earth
Will I still be able to get good at BJJ even though I’m so ticklish 😅 (lol that’s a bit of a weird question)
Probably. I guess there is one way to find out. ;)
But yeah you'll probably get comfortable with the situation.
Chewjitsu thanks 😅😂
Go to a gym that trains specifically for what you want to practice i.e. go to a BJJ gym to work on grappling, or an MMA gym that focuses a lot on wrestling...a boxing gym that has nothing but boxers. You'll get more out of gyms that specialize in a specific art
Health is priceless
1 they don’t need to in order to make a good living
2 it kills your body way faster than jiu jitsu, cte is hell
And one I think is important is that it’s now much harder for someone who’s good at jiu jitsu to compete in mma considering everyone trains for it now, if you look back not too long ago you can see that if someone didn’t know how to deal with a grappler they got destroyed in the ring, in the first ufc when ken shamrock was asked how his fight felt he said “much easier than training, they didn’t know what to do” but nowadays jiu jitsu has become less dominant because everyone now understands the importance of learning grappling or at least how to stuff takedowns, you really can’t just be really good at jiu jitsu and do good in mma anymore
You say there are solid opportunities to make a living wit jiu jitsu, but what are they?
Because a good wrestler that understand guatd and submission will kick your ass. A good strike with good wrestling and a good submission defence will knock you out
Rodolfo Viera is probably one of the highest jiu jiutsu competitor competing in MMA. Living legend.
Buchecha hasn't fought yet but he just signed with ADCC and id argued hes more accomplished across gi and nogi.
He fought in the ufc in March and won with a arm triangle
He gassed out and got submitted... shows you that MMA is a different beast.
Its because ju jutsu at top level is now alot of butt scooting, berimbolos, deep half, lapel guard, spider guard, lasso guard and other techniques that are not easy to use in mma. alot of adjusting is needed. Sad really...
I think there's also the rules set is different now ..and it is in favor of stand up fighting and boxing and knock out where the avarage joe can enjoy!!
I think a striker would say being thrown around and choked and slammed would be more painful than being punched. It just depends on your background
True, but grappling is most of the time a saver option. You can save yourself by tapping most of the time before the damage is done. In striking you realize you got finished once you wake up from being knocked out. That is a difference.
I think also because BJJ has changed. I trained at Carlson Gracie, the BJJ was different to now. It was more combat based, more about the top game. They started to do poorly in BJJ tournaments for exactly that reason. Then BJJ was a good fit for MMA. Now BJJ is a poor fit for MMA especially with all the specialist guards and lapel guards. It has evolved to a niche sport.
In no particular order:
1) In the infancy of MMA, being great at BJJ alone was often enough to easily beat other competitors and even become champion, but then the game evolved and even BJJ legends can easily have a hard time in high level MMA.
2) There is more money and prestige now in just excelling at BJJ, both in competing and being a trainer.
3) Head trauma is no joke.
4) If you really love BJJ in particular, why wouldn´t you stay with BJJ? Conversely, if you really love MMA in particular, you´d probably like to do a lot of BJJ, but probably not enough to be a BJJ champion, as you´d want to have time to train the other aspects of MMA.
done bjj because i wanted to do mma, done kickboxing for the same reason , i quit kickboxing within weeks as i hated it , here i am a year and a half later still doing bjj :)
Love you Chewy
It's pretty clear-cut, few enjoy rehabilitating debilitating injuries past the 30 year mark.
Grappling has them too, sure. But if you get as injured as sparring for mma then you're doing something wrong
I'll add that for many of us modern MMA, like some bjj competitions, aren't attractive these days.
I can't wait and grind and wear my opponent down in MMA. I can't play that conservatively. I have time limits, I have points and judges. I have to worry about being stood back up if there's not enough action...and then having to eat punches and kicks to get the take down again.
Modern MMA rules are skewed toward getting that big knockout punch. Which I understand. It's more exciting and that's what fans pay for.
Easy to test. Get an accomplished BJJ competitor (purple belt or higher). Have them compete in a golden gloves tournament. See how they react after they start getting their bell rung. If they panic they should stick to IBJJ tourneys…not MMA type sports
I thought MMA for a Juitsu practitioner was about proving what Martial Art was better ... I gues now (sometime about 10 years back) it just became MMA ... sweep the leg Johnny, the Calf Kick now being used as a primary technique by many and even getting Calf Kick KOs
gotta get Ryan Hall more fights!
One solid punch while grappling can change everything
i remembered something super funny to me thats relevent, after i boxed I done a little mma and during my first fight the guy i was fighting was his first fight too and (at least i think) he was primarily a grappler, within 1st minute he went for a double leg and i caught him with an uppercut, he dropped and rolled on his back as i jumped on top of him and went for the kill, as i was punching his face the look he gave me was like he had walked in on me and his wife xD think i really hurt his feelings
Honestly there are just people who doesn't like to get hit, in m one them, that's one of the reason why I love grappling, I'm not going to lie to myself here and act like a tough guy.
No one talks about the fact that in MMA you are fighting with no shirt. If you put a shirt on, it makes grappling easier because you are less slippery and there is something to grab onto. I believe some UFC champs would get submitted on the street if they were not slippery and had a shirt on. Also implementing rounds is advantageous to strikers not grapplers. The best self defense is grappling. In a street fight the opponent will most likely have clothes and there will be no rounds.
Simple explanations for this, back in the day no one knew bjj so going into mma could work really well for you as opposed to today where no one steps into the octagon without some bjj knowledge. Next, there are way fewer wrestlers in bjj tournaments :) People who do bjj probably are not fans of being punched in the face/punching others in the face.
I love kicking people in the head. But I also love smothering people in closed guard.
I know the topic is about BJJ fighters, but as a stand up martial artist I honestly have no interest in ground based competition. I’ve had people ask me why don’t I go for local MMA competition and I always answer that stand up is my thing.
It might be that some BJJ people have no interest in stand up.
Which martial art do you practice ?
@@jimreily7538 Hi! Right now Choy Li Fut and Chen style Tai Chi. Before that was 12 years of Kenpo.
Funny enough I got into striking before I got into BJJ, found MMA and started boxing and kickboxing but there’s a dangerous reality of getting hit in the head, now I just grapple.
Most Bjj practitioners don't want to fight and can't fight. Bjj is not the same when it comes to fighting. The old teams from Carlson Sr. were fighters...Vale Tudo, The way that Gracie JJ started.
Peace
Tanquinho fought in the UFC for a while
He reminds me a lot of “Yo Elliot”
3:40 ha ha, that's funny.
But I'm sure there are many gyms that are different
a lot of jiu jitsu gym have transitioned from self defense based jj to a more competition based jj. if you want to learn jj for self defense try to find a gym with mma classes or some kind of striking class, but thts just me.
Also you can practice to jitsu until you're 95 years old like grandmaster Helio Gracie. You can't practice MMA into your old age or at least I can't imagine being able to practice MMA in my old age
Let name all grappled who done very well in mma
Early to present
Bustamante...
Mario Sperry
Rickson Renzo Ryan Royler Royce Gracie.....
Igor vochechen...Carlos Newton...
Sakuraba.... Damian Mia ...jacare....marcelo Garcia.. Robert Drysdale...rodrigues...Manson...jeez I can name more...boogey man lister
is it because they don't want to get punched in the face or lose to a wrestler from Dagestan
wear and tear is higher in striking sports as well as injuries.
Disagree. Injuries are way higher in BJJ. You do get lingering brain injuries in striking which is arguably worse.
You know nothing. You literally dont.
BJJ is the softest of all grappling sports and the injuries are worse, WAY worse, than in your BS boxing. Judo and wrestling are way harder than Muay Thai.
Torn ACL, broken arms, spinal injuries. early arthritis and the list goes on and on.
Why get hit so much when you can make the money you need in grappling
BJJ has become a small component of MMA. It's no longer an easy path and transition from BJJ to MMA like the early crude days of MMA where it was BJJ vs another style.
A high level BJJ practitioner would have to go spend a lot of time in MMA and its subdisciplines to be competitive and that's a big commitment. Marcelo Garcia, arguably one of the greatest rollers of all time, took a beating in his only recorded MMA match.
And it's not just martial arts you have to learn in order to be competitive in MMA but also have to invest in spending time with sports specific conditioning, and training camps. Another huge commitment and sacrifice.
I heard a lot of sources say that you need to be an exceptional all-around athelete to be good in today's MMA, not just a great martial artist.
But as others commented, as a recreational sport and activity among the masses, not a lot of people are comfortable getting punched in the face and getting rocked. BJJ classes have grown considerably in most city and towns around the world compared to MMA classes I think because MMA is, hate to say this, still seen as a "blood sport" by the general public and where you only have between the ages of 20 to 35 to become good at it whereas BJJ is a bit more sustainable to do as long as you are in reasonably good health.
I think you covered it well.
There is little to no point in training "MMA" unless its 1) Reputable gym 2) You want to compete in cage against other trained fighters.