That's why I took Combat Sambo we stick to MMA Grappling & Striking. Sambo is complete for MMA 👍 🙏 I went to many schools in the past, I stick with Russian Sambo & Combat Sambo. I grew up Boxing, Greco Roman Wrestling, Tangsoodo, a little Judo. I stuck with Sambo & Combat Systema they have was pretty cool Real Systema has Grappling & Ballistic Striking Kevin Secours Master Martin Wheeler & Val Riazanov just to name a few. But to stick with the point Sambo is MMA you have the Mix of Wrestling, Judo & Jujutsu in Sambo & Striking.
It's like if there was a soccer scholl that had a tackling class, a passing class, a penalties class, and a diving class ;) but never actually had their students play a game of soccer.
@@psychoticpurse6579 Also, to protect themselves from injury. That's the reason Maradonna flopped as much as he did. Players who couldn't match him tried to injure him. There's no reason to put up with that. If people are going to hurt you ...let them pay for it. Same reason Neymar flops as much as he does.
My gym trains specifically for the sport of MMA. Three times a week we spar with only MMA rules, take downs, ground work, cage work, etc. The owner/head coach is a former MMA cage fighter and loves the sport (He taught Nick Newell the one armed fighter) and he focuses heavily on just MMA (the sport as a whole). The two remaining days, is clinch work and JJ that works for MMA not B/JJ that only works for tournaments. For my boxing and extra striking work I go to a boxing gym outside of my MMA school.
@@papi9305 bjj focuses solely on groundwork but there's not much instruction on how to get people on the ground, so this can put you at a disadvantage because fights don't start on the ground
@@papi9305 When I said B/jj I didn't mean B/jj as a whole. Only about 10% to 20% (if luck is on your side and you are damn damn good) works well in MMA. There are many moves from JJ that do not work or work that well in MMA or are way to risky, fancy or time consuming to try to pull off that just aren't safe or practical to use in MMA while you are taking elbows to the head and defending punches to the head and or body. Everything changes once you add striking, knees to the body into equation.... In pure B/jj there are no strikes, no knees, no kicks, and you can not slam your opponent to the ground (in tournaments) once they pull a standing guard or a guard from bottom. While in MMA you can do these things. MMA is a completely different sport on it's own.
Yeah... My first time in an MMA class I was put in the cage told "Let's see what you got.", but we weren't allowed to do anything but box... and my opponent was a boxing instructor (I had almost exclusively kickboxed, and they're not the same... especially if you've got two thirds of your height and muscle in your legs). Then he was telling me where to go and how to move, but I virtually never fight the way he was trying to get me to... Long story short I sucked, not because I didn't have the skill but because I wasn't being allowed to play to any of my strengths because the context was completely out of place... We need more gyms that offer actual MMA classes, education, and sparring.
I love how it works in London, we don’t really have MMA gyms, we have “fight clubs” Basically depending on the time of day/week you either have a boxing class, Muay Thai class, BJJ class or MMA class (and more rarely other arts like wrestling/Karate/Krav Maga etc.) This way there is something for everyone and there is usually a discount on classes if you already attend the gym. Hell, I’ve seen ones that do weightlifting running and culture classes as well
I had a seminar cancelled last month. Looking at the MMA gyms in London, I préfères to stay in my home town. Also if I would visit a city for training, I would likely go to Dublin or Louvain.
Natsu Well, it’s strange though. In the 70’s when I began Tae Kwon Do it was definitely more complete and practical. Both of my main instructors had judo experience at a high level. And one was a kendo master. Sweeps, grabbing and jerking opponent into your hand strikes and kicks and some throws were included in the curriculum. However after almost 4 decades of practicing old school TKD as well as almost a decade of boxing , I can tell you, that I was as helpless as a child during my first BJJ class. I would be similarly outclassed against a leg kicker in Muay Thai. Although I would probably have a better showing there. Still, the TKD I learned served me well growing up. Most TKD today is much removed from the original form . I suspect there are some traditional ma schools that do embrace other dissimilar styles, but unfortunately most high level instructors don’t want to look weak to their students, so they will instead portray their martial art as being more complete than it is.
Muay Thai practitioner here. I’ve been pretty content just training MT up until I saw the Amanda Nunes vs Germaine De Randamie fight and how Nunes utterly dominated her opponent on the ground, not giving her a moment on her feet, and that just made me think “omfg I need to learn bjj and ground fighting”.
Also do MT. We can get away with judo and wrestling. Taking them down and getting mount or knee on belly wins fights. Jiu jitsu works too but I found learning take downs quickly adjusted my game. I didn't have to pick up jiu jitsu...I just copied khabib and it works real well. Use your mt to control the space. Get them near a wall then shut them down. Boxing and tkd helped out my striking game. For those reading this my point is focus on what works and train it till its a part of you.
Josh F thanks for the tips man that’s actually really helpful. My main concern tho isn’t just learning takedowns but rather being able to hold my own once my appontent has me on the ground. Ideally I wouldn’t want to get taken down in the first place but you get what I mean; knowing how to break free of holds etc
@@dantemcedgelord8168 you'll find that a good offence can keep them too busy to reposition you. Being a scary striker on your feet lets you control tempo and distance. Jiu jitsu fighters that I spar with are often too preoccupied to counter. This is up until you go against black belt coaches. Even then I still can take their back. Fear messes with your cognition. Makes it hard to play chess.(grapplers game) Ask any amateur or pro and they'll probably advise you to avoid getting punched in the face. It's disorienting. Strikers thrive on distance and tempo control. If we can make them afraid we win. (Oversimplified) Again the point was is I pulled stuff from less common styles and can compete with the "premium" brands. Edit: depending where you learn your wrestling and judo you can learn how to get out. Forgot to answer that.
@@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL not true. My tkd refined my kicks. My boxing refined my combos and head movement. The judo makes it harder for my opponent to sweep me as I am more aware now. Judo and mt share some sweeps. Granted Im not going to ippon seio nage someone in a straight mt fight but my balance and footwork training is still valuable. Judo also taught me more ways to do more advanced ways to break a stance.
Thank you for answering this question from your perspective as an instructor because this is something that's been bothering me when I look at all the MMA gyms in my area.
Great point, Ramsey. Big fan, been following your videos for a while, thanks for all the awesome content. The sport and concept of MMA are still young, and the martial arts industry is definitely still adapting. Glad we have forward-thinking professionals like you moving it in the right direction. Please keep up the good work! - Patrick
Thank you for this! Back when I first wanted to compete in MMA there were a couple of gyms in my city that marketed as MMA. I made due with what I had, but the one I chose didn't have an MMA curriculum, just a bunch of classes for kickboxing, judo, BJJ, and wrestling. Over time I have developed, and am still fine tuning my MMA specific curriculum. I do have separate days for striking and grappling, but everything I teach revolves around the MMA concept with specific MMA class days on the schedule. I feel like it is false advertising to call your school an MMA gym when it is just a facility with multiple arts to choose from. I really enjoy your content!
It was always baffling to me how almost every MMA gym in Poland (especially in smaller towns) "teaches MMA". If you ask trainers what's their background it will probably be the only answer x)
I feel since we have so many different styles it probably helps to have people who are proficient in each primary style that we see in MMA However MMA has definitely become it's own thing and should teach MMA
Me Dewey , you are a true master, gentleman, teacher.Your word is god in the world of martial arts thank you for your you tube info ; it has the most to say over any other martial arts channels and thank you truly
My Mother & Father are very different people & at the same time almost identical now & then. They've said few things to me that perfectly matched up. But this is one of the things they both told me word-for-word verbatim; "You can't learn everything at once." Maybe a couple of things at once for multi-taskers but even then there's a limit. My Father followed it up later with, "Pick one thing & master it's basics before moving onto another if you must." Thanks again for another lesson Mr. Dewey. Now if only I can actually do something with it this time hahaha!
Hmmm. I could add two more things to this One is that MMA still makes ppl think straight away about UFC which is brutal and serious. So they're not sure yet if they want to join and commit on that level. Many ppl I asked about why not joining replied this way. On the other side we have sports like kickboxing which ppl can relate to kickboxing fitness classes of low level of commitment. Second thing is that MMA is still quiet young, competing to othe combat sports. We have plenty of kickboxing coaches but still few teaching MMA. Maybe my generation of fighters (when I finally become one 😅) will produce more specifically MMA coaches. Who knows... Great video like always! All best!
I also believe that some people are talented in a specific area, like wrestling and when they train mma they always go to their comfort zone. So if you force them to maybe do a boxing or kickboxing fight they will become a better well rounded fighter
I feel like the classes should be split depending on the focus of the fighter. A striker doesn't need to learn a lot of grappling and a grappler doesn't need to learn a lot of striking. But they should still come together often for a general class to learn the other aspects of the sport.
@Cynical MGTOW if you can do a triangle choke you can do an arm bar. Break the arm. Release. Now you have 2 guys to worry about. They might reconsider attacking. Either way. If your getting jump your getting jump. Your wing Chun or krav isn't going to help any more then a solid grappling background
Cynical MGTOW: your understanding of fighting is as ridiculously ideological and uninformed as your understanding of women. There are hundreds of videos and news reports of people using grappling to win streets fights, including of women defeating men, such as attempted rapists and robbers. MGTOW is a hate cult. You are everything you claim to despise in feminism. MGTOW is just like the KKK except you losers direct your hatred towards women instead of racial minorities.
I don't recognize the situation at all. The gyms I know and train(ed) at, yes, they had separate striking and grappling classes but they also had classes that were purely about integrated MMA. Drills and then sparring that were 100% MMA. The thing is, if you then suck at either striking or grappling, you'll suck at those classes as well. So you simply need to have a certain minimum level of proficiency before there is any point of you doing actual MMA. I've been at gyms where the only thing taught was MMA. And most of the people there were not very good at anything. jacks of all trades, master of none. So I think teaching the disciplines separately and then integrate them is the way to go.
So I just came Mack from one an hour ago. He’s talking about the multi TAM dojos that falsely advertise as a MMA gym and most likely you can’t compete in anything other than traditional martial art competitions (assuming the possibility is even there in the first place)
This has popped into my feed a few years late, whatever about what you have to say your beard is amazing in this one. A large part of why I watch your videos is I just like the sound of your voice. I'm past training because I'm old and fat now but I like to hear about mma training. Hell of a beard, this suits you more than your egg with a 3 day beard look
I was actually looking at MMA gyms here in Stockholm yesterday, and was surpriced to find that most local gyms don´t offer the split Kickboxing/BJJ classes. Some did , but most seems to teach MMA as a whole! Maybe that is because we have a relatively long history of MMA in Stockholm, and many have shooto or submission wrestling as a base, and have been teaching complete systems since before BJJ grew in to what it is today
My local gym has some "split" classes and some mixed. I like that system because then you for example can focus just on BJJ, position or technique without worrying about ground and pound. Then next class when you mix its easier to apply because you've practiced it properly in sparring.
Mixed Martial Arts means exactly that! Different combinations of various Martial Art. One just needs to find which set of skills are most suited for him and MIXED them up in a combination that works best for him.
Thats too hard and complex.. The guys that just train in mma simplify moves and have to dismiss about 80 percent of the moves from other.. Its all about ego investment and wanting to abandon time learnt in ineffective moves..
My MMA gym had MMA classes, that basically consisted of sparring with little drill work and some ground game. They used to ask us what we wanted to drill, and people would stand there not saying anything, until I'd say "footwork" Or something else. The class attendees were confused teenagers and uni students and crazy, maybe mentally unstable, men who just violently through haymakers in light sparring. We had one guy who would try and "co-teach" me whilst the trainer was talking, he'd then proceed to slap or hit me in the back of the head in every drill. I barely advanced in skill, and when one of my friends enquired, he was told that we're supposed to be going to the boxing, muay thai and bjj classes before the mma classes. The thing is, there are techniques that you can't use in certain sports, you didn't learn any wrestling and the bjj didn't teach you how to cope with ground strikes and such. Unfortunately I had to watch and learn online, to then try and apply it in my sparring to test myself.
Started out boxing and never liked MMA but I joined the UFC Gym in Baton Rouge yesterday and went headfirst into sparring with with some of the MMA guys and not gonna lie had so much fun I want to start both sports.
My gym teaches a little bit of everything, from Muay Thai, boxing, jiu jitus, wrestling and judo techniques. A bit of everything. My classes are an hour long and multiple days a week. We spar grappling and drill striking techniques. I’m with a good team thankfully.
This is one of your most important videos i think. So let's say you want to learn MMA, what do you do? Well, i think you should make another video showing how you train with new people(please). Now, i want to share my experience, i only did 3 sessions of training and i am a complete beginner. The coach at my gym simply said: if we start with a single discipline we will get old when we get to MMA. So even as a beginner i have 3 sessions per week, boxing, kickboxing and wrestling. I do different things or varations but the warmup and the exercises after class are destroying my body. It's just that MMA means you have to have a good bodyweight(the thiner the better) and my wrists hurt, my abs, my legs hurt for a week almost in my first session and it was boxing. So...it's easy to teach a single discipline, especially when you are basing your teaching on strike power but you need so much more for the complete picture. Now...i don't know if i am lucky or unlucky but when i learn how to fight i can go in the weekends for sparring(they spar every weekend one day and that's day nr 4 of training)...but it's 10X harder than going to the gym, i still go to the gym
That is the key of mixed martial arts...you can choose whatever martial arts you like and string them together to fit your style. Its like a buffet table for fighting.
Observations: The majority of schools I see are really one discipline, but trying to get the MMA marketing stimulus package lol. Most of what I see: Black belt in GJJ/BJJ, that has one of their blue/brown belts teaching boxing or kickboxing 2 or 3 nights a week. Muay Thai Kru who has a business partner that teaches BJJ in the mornings every day. 10th Planet JJ squad that has Wrestling 2 days a week and MMA 3 nights a week. In short, mostly marketing... but sometimes Not o_O... Then you have the weird intersection of “Self Defense” and “Combat Sports”. It’s not much different than the late 90s / early 2000s when Wing Chun and Tai Chi started getting really popular. Every Karate school around here started trying to look like a KungFu school. TKD guys are suddenly teaching “slow” forms with Tai Chi symbols in the signs. Everybody’s got a Wing Chun / JKD class. Now it’s just MMA’s turn to be the market boon. And it works, around here at least, mostly because actual MMA gyms are often double or triple the price. And there’s the yelp reviews / stereotypes out there of 1) big class sizes and they don’t give you time unless you’re one of the fighters, 2) very uninviting atmosphere where people focus on themselves more than help newbs, etc. A BJJ school with some muay thai and judo is still traditional enough to have that “family” aura many ppl actually crave
Maybe separating the MAs into individual classes allows the fighter to put together their own style, instead of learning from a coach that has already decided which moves work for him. Maybe the fighter comes to the same conclusion but then they had the opportunity to explore the strengths and weaknesses.
My gym does BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kickboxing and MMA Striking / Grappling classes as well, it really helps people not only train MMA as a whole, but also specialise in the discipline they enjoy the most, for example boxing and BJJ for me.
MMA training probably also gets broken up into these separate disciplines, even in legitimate gyms, because that's how the instructors learned MMA. MMA is still new and, as it evolves, we're seeing less of this delineation and more of a holistic approach to technique that works.
Omg , you just described my gym , the issue though, if you know and are friends with everyone, its difficult to turn your back to them and go train with someone else 😒
Not enough coaches have competed in mma which is why mma classes are broken down.. Plus the ego investment in one art makes people averse to mixing the arts. Eg u can end up hardly doing any kicks.. I think.
The key, is in the transitions between the Kickboxing and the Jujitsu. If you take a Jujitsu class, and a kickboxing class, you dont have that. If you take an MMA class, the kickboxing now sets up the Jujitsu.
This is pretty cool my MMA class actually does meld its styles together with wrestling and BJJ in our striking and our sparring has a lot of takedowns with the striking
Most of the gyms I went to in the past broke down the classes by subject such as BBJ, Muay Thai, boxing , Judo and so on. They also ran conditioning classes, but they usually also had a MMA class to tie it together. It was just up to the student to attend the class they wanted. Not all students wanted to fight. Some guys stuck to BBJ or Judo. Other guys stuck to the striking arts. Some guys trained more MMA classes but still seemed to focus on certain classes over others. There used to be many MMA gyms in my city considering it was the fight capital of the world. Not so much anymore. MMA is not as popular here now and many of those gyms have closed😔
I'm personally of the opinion that learning each discipline, then combining them through MMA training or something like it is a much better way to learn than training all of them together, as doing them together, in my opinion, can lead to a more shallow understanding of each art. It's important to work to combine everything you can do if you want to do well, but I think that a deep understanding of various martial arts should be the step taken before that.
Prepare yourself to throw 90% of each discipline in the garbage after you go through the painstaking process of learning them only to realize that MMA is a completely different sport.
@@RamseyDewey while it's true that some of it doesn't transfer well, most of it can be adapted fairly well, very few things are instantly transferrable, but most of it can work if you can do the work to adapt it. At the end of the day someone who's done a few years of boxing for example will probably be better with their hands than a person who's done combined training for the same amount of time. The boxer still loses that fight due to being one dimensional, but if someone dedicates that amount of time to each art, then works to incorporate as much of it as they can, I think that leads to a more varied and well rounded fighter. I'm mostly defending the idea that separate classes for each art need to exist, not that they should be the only thing a person does. I think I may have communicated my idea poorly in my original comment.
I live in Melbourne Australia and the gym I train at teach BJJ, Muay Thai, Wrestling ASWELL AS MMA specific classes, it’s has intro classes for beginners then goes into fundamental classes then the higher up classes.
100% correct about those types of gyms. You can tell by the things they often say in the corner like "Remember who your coach is!" Greg Jackson *cough *cough
i had a 4-12 ammy record in 6 years training with a taekwondo guy who tried to teach mma 2 years at a mma school from a fighter who actually fought teaches mma and gi and no gi jujitsu as a professional now im 4-2 big difference
I assume this is done to make it easier for the teachers and students. I know a very few people who are good at both striking and grabbling, let alone people who can teach them well. Hiring a different coach for specific area is efficient in a sense. It would be better if you would have someone who can teach both, but I think another soulution is that, there could be "3rd coach" who wouldn't really teach technique, but the application to MMA.
I personally think you should be experienced in at least one martial art first before stepping into MMA. Mine was Muay Thai and Boxing and an MMA coach then helped round out my fighting style for MMA.
that would be the case 10 years ago but mma now is definitely its own style we have kids now that are training mma as its own style the thing i would say if you are someone who plans on competing in mma i would recommend competing in bjj , wrestling , k1 , muay thai , boxing as well as mma and that will give you a massive advantage over someone like a wrestler who then comes over to mma. plus another thing to add is like 70% of techniques in a certain martial art do not work in mma for example speaking from experience i can hit ankle picks for days in wrestling practise but cannot hit it in mma sparring because of strikes and knees.
Hey Ramsey got a question for you , I’ve trained at a few gyms now and nearly every place tells you to throw a hook differently ,some people say the fist should be horizontal and others say vertical , I don’t mind striking either way but is there any advantage or disadvantages to striking either way or is it just preference on the person ? Just wondering your thoughts on this cheers mate !
Watch his video about hooks. It's one of the Q and A with the coach vids. Talks about where to put your knuckles during the hook, and body mechanics of hooks too.
The MMA school i went to had submission wrestling, boxing, and kickboxing classes, but had advanced pankration classes with sparring. Currently just doing jiu jitsu because I moved and my current gym is literally next door lol
From my experience they only teach those that are planning on competing in a MMA cage or even Kickboxing or Muay Thai fighters so they can sharpen there ground game in case they are planning to compete in a MMA cage.
Hi Ramsey, I also hold the opinion (especially for young kids) that doing wrestling + Tkd + boxing give more opportunities for competition at there age then MMA. But and big but I advise doing a mix of 3 base arts not one.
I trained in a gym for years that simply trained up fighting and ground fighting, no belts no pajamas, just mma. I only left because I was being pressured to get promoted and cut unrealistic weight. This gym produced a few high tier fighters but I don’t want to lose my privacy by saying which but it was reputable before a top level guy had a falling out and opened his own gym in the same city. I send my daughter to the new one that teaches everything separately and she mostly only does bjj at 16
If your wanting transition to MMA and you already have lots if experience Boxing and Muay Thai and just a little bit in BJJ How often would you recommend to train (Ground) Grappling/Wrestling/ BJJ? (Clinch) Wrestling/Muay Thai ? (Stand Up) Boxing/Muay Thai/ TKD ?
I tried joining an MMA school for their fitness program only. I showed up and they kept trying to get me to do jiu jitsu. Whipped out the clip board and went over how much my equipment, a gi, gloves etc.. would cost. "I just wanted to do the fitness part pal" he was like "That's part of the fitness is jiu jitsu and striking" I then noticed it didn't have any fitness equipment in the building. Just a few bags. Biggest waste of time, ignored all the info I gave in my short entrance interview, just saw dollar signs.
I personally think that MMA gyms should do both, because the base of MMA is developing various Martial Arts to apply them in a fight. But if people have an interest for competition there should be sparing for sport-like competitions which must include the rules of the cage.
Assuming you already know how to fight: Two sessions per day, 90 minutes to 2 hours each. One session on strength and conditioning, on session on technique and sparring.
It annoyed the shit out of me going to different MMA schools and I was forced to basically hide all my weapons because they only wanted to grapple. As a striker I saw a lot of opportunities..but was not allowed to test my ideas because nobody wanted to get punched on the floor or getting kneed in the clinch. If I want BJJ, I will go to a BJJ school. If I dont want grappling I will stick with MT, Karate, etc. I wanted to mix it up. Could not find a school. Really sad.
The mma gym arround here has just mma classes... They might do a little bit more grappling or striking for a class, but they spar with mma rules in the end... However... The same instructor teaches sanda and bjj in the same school as separated classes... Most mma fighters go to all 3 of them...
Ramsey put it perfectly MMA is not a style it is actually a concept where we practice more than one style or system. It is tested in a sporting arena with specific rules that protected the athletes. UFC, Pride, belator etc. In truth MMA in its essence has no rules, you are learning to fight in every and any way using every tool at your disposal. Therefore if you want to master striking learn from proper striking arts, boxing, muay Thai, karate etc. learn ground work from Wrestling, JJ etc. choosing an art as a foundation yet complete yourself in the other styles that yours lack. If you look at all MMA champions they all have a foundation martial art that is the centre peice of the way they fight. however are well versed in the other forms. And as stated by Ramsey he is right in saying in whatever you train in and master test it in MMA conditions ie spar in MMA where you can truly bring it all together and see what actual works effectively.
What you said about good fighters overcoming bad coaches reminds me of a certain video of a certain guy hitting another guy while he was doing a hanging inversion...
The worst part is when they say they are a mma gym, but instead they do either way too much striking or bjj, and neglect the other aspect almost entirely. That happened at the last "mma gym" I was at. It was pretty much just a bjj club.
Many gyms here in Colombia offers mma classes separed from the bjj and muay thai classes, that is my question, How one can know if a gym is good? , really I want to learn all the stuff
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I think that is not Mixed Martial arts gym but rather Multiple Martial arts gym
Truly
Very well put.
wow yeah
And it’s not even a “gym” either, rather any other dojo
That's why I took Combat Sambo we stick to MMA Grappling & Striking. Sambo is complete for MMA 👍 🙏 I went to many schools in the past, I stick with Russian Sambo & Combat Sambo. I grew up Boxing, Greco Roman Wrestling, Tangsoodo, a little Judo. I stuck with Sambo & Combat Systema they have was pretty cool Real Systema has Grappling & Ballistic Striking Kevin Secours Master Martin Wheeler & Val Riazanov just to name a few. But to stick with the point Sambo is MMA you have the Mix of Wrestling, Judo & Jujutsu in Sambo & Striking.
Your voice is perfect for narrating children's storybooks.
I'm A Warr;or that was exactly my thought lol
Fergy Toneson right?
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It's like if there was a soccer scholl that had a tackling class, a passing class, a penalties class, and a diving class ;) but never actually had their students play a game of soccer.
diving class lolllllllllll
@@teddytatyo it's what football players do anyway. They take a dive when they get tapped on the ankle so as to get the other person in trouble
And a flopping class
@@psychoticpurse6579 Also, to protect themselves from injury. That's the reason Maradonna flopped as much as he did. Players who couldn't match him tried to injure him. There's no reason to put up with that. If people are going to hurt you ...let them pay for it. Same reason Neymar flops as much as he does.
"and a diving class" --- but that would cover 99% of the game anyway
My gym trains specifically for the sport of MMA. Three times a week we spar with only MMA rules, take downs, ground work, cage work, etc. The owner/head coach is a former MMA cage fighter and loves the sport (He taught Nick Newell the one armed fighter) and he focuses heavily on just MMA (the sport as a whole). The two remaining days, is clinch work and JJ that works for MMA not B/JJ that only works for tournaments. For my boxing and extra striking work I go to a boxing gym outside of my MMA school.
And on Saturdays it's more MMA, hard sparing, a lot's of wrestling. And on Wednesdays we roll non stop for a hour 1/2.
Where is this?
newbie here, what makes bjj not work for mma?
@@papi9305 bjj focuses solely on groundwork but there's not much instruction on how to get people on the ground, so this can put you at a disadvantage because fights don't start on the ground
@@papi9305 When I said B/jj I didn't mean B/jj as a whole. Only about 10% to 20% (if luck is on your side and you are damn damn good) works well in MMA. There are many moves from JJ that do not work or work that well in MMA or are way to risky, fancy or time consuming to try to pull off that just aren't safe or practical to use in MMA while you are taking elbows to the head and defending punches to the head and or body. Everything changes once you add striking, knees to the body into equation....
In pure B/jj there are no strikes, no knees, no kicks, and you can not slam your opponent to the ground (in tournaments) once they pull a standing guard or a guard from bottom. While in MMA you can do these things. MMA is a completely different sport on it's own.
Yeah... My first time in an MMA class I was put in the cage told "Let's see what you got.", but we weren't allowed to do anything but box... and my opponent was a boxing instructor (I had almost exclusively kickboxed, and they're not the same... especially if you've got two thirds of your height and muscle in your legs). Then he was telling me where to go and how to move, but I virtually never fight the way he was trying to get me to... Long story short I sucked, not because I didn't have the skill but because I wasn't being allowed to play to any of my strengths because the context was completely out of place... We need more gyms that offer actual MMA classes, education, and sparring.
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I just want to take this moment to say to all of you reading this
May you all have a Happy and Meaningful New Year!
I started 2020 with a fight. An internet fight. I hope I do better today.
You too!
If only you know the context of this year when you wrote this
I love how it works in London, we don’t really have MMA gyms, we have “fight clubs”
Basically depending on the time of day/week you either have a boxing class, Muay Thai class, BJJ class or MMA class (and more rarely other arts like wrestling/Karate/Krav Maga etc.)
This way there is something for everyone and there is usually a discount on classes if you already attend the gym.
Hell, I’ve seen ones that do weightlifting running and culture classes as well
I had a seminar cancelled last month. Looking at the MMA gyms in London, I préfères to stay in my home town. Also if I would visit a city for training, I would likely go to Dublin or Louvain.
Even worse are the traditional martial arts schools advertising MMA as part of their curriculum.
Oh boy. I have a TKD school near me that advertises on their website that they are "The Original Mixed Martial Arts."
Natsu
Well, it’s strange though. In the 70’s when I began Tae Kwon Do it was definitely more complete and practical. Both of my main instructors had judo experience at a high level. And one was a kendo master. Sweeps, grabbing and jerking opponent into your hand strikes and kicks and some throws were included in the curriculum. However after almost 4 decades of practicing old school TKD as well as almost a decade of boxing , I can tell you, that I was as helpless as a child during my first BJJ class. I would be similarly outclassed against a leg kicker in Muay Thai. Although I would probably have a better showing there. Still, the TKD I learned served me well growing up. Most TKD today is much removed from the original form . I suspect there are some traditional ma schools that do embrace other dissimilar styles, but unfortunately most high level instructors don’t want to look weak to their students, so they will instead portray their martial art as being more complete than it is.
Facts
Muay Thai practitioner here. I’ve been pretty content just training MT up until I saw the Amanda Nunes vs Germaine De Randamie fight and how Nunes utterly dominated her opponent on the ground, not giving her a moment on her feet, and that just made me think “omfg I need to learn bjj and ground fighting”.
Also do MT. We can get away with judo and wrestling. Taking them down and getting mount or knee on belly wins fights. Jiu jitsu works too but I found learning take downs quickly adjusted my game. I didn't have to pick up jiu jitsu...I just copied khabib and it works real well. Use your mt to control the space. Get them near a wall then shut them down. Boxing and tkd helped out my striking game.
For those reading this my point is focus on what works and train it till its a part of you.
Josh F thanks for the tips man that’s actually really helpful. My main concern tho isn’t just learning takedowns but rather being able to hold my own once my appontent has me on the ground. Ideally I wouldn’t want to get taken down in the first place but you get what I mean; knowing how to break free of holds etc
@@dantemcedgelord8168 you'll find that a good offence can keep them too busy to reposition you. Being a scary striker on your feet lets you control tempo and distance. Jiu jitsu fighters that I spar with are often too preoccupied to counter. This is up until you go against black belt coaches. Even then I still can take their back. Fear messes with your cognition. Makes it hard to play chess.(grapplers game) Ask any amateur or pro and they'll probably advise you to avoid getting punched in the face. It's disorienting. Strikers thrive on distance and tempo control. If we can make them afraid we win. (Oversimplified)
Again the point was is I pulled stuff from less common styles and can compete with the "premium" brands.
Edit: depending where you learn your wrestling and judo you can learn how to get out. Forgot to answer that.
Completely ineffective if you want to fight in MT tho
@@ORIGINOLINDIVIDUAL not true. My tkd refined my kicks. My boxing refined my combos and head movement. The judo makes it harder for my opponent to sweep me as I am more aware now. Judo and mt share some sweeps. Granted Im not going to ippon seio nage someone in a straight mt fight but my balance and footwork training is still valuable. Judo also taught me more ways to do more advanced ways to break a stance.
Thank you for answering this question from your perspective as an instructor because this is something that's been bothering me when I look at all the MMA gyms in my area.
Great point, Ramsey. Big fan, been following your videos for a while, thanks for all the awesome content. The sport and concept of MMA are still young, and the martial arts industry is definitely still adapting. Glad we have forward-thinking professionals like you moving it in the right direction. Please keep up the good work! - Patrick
Thank you for this! Back when I first wanted to compete in MMA there were a couple of gyms in my city that marketed as MMA. I made due with what I had, but the one I chose didn't have an MMA curriculum, just a bunch of classes for kickboxing, judo, BJJ, and wrestling. Over time I have developed, and am still fine tuning my MMA specific curriculum. I do have separate days for striking and grappling, but everything I teach revolves around the MMA concept with specific MMA class days on the schedule. I feel like it is false advertising to call your school an MMA gym when it is just a facility with multiple arts to choose from. I really enjoy your content!
Oh thanks. I looked at the video and totally forgot I asked this question. Merry Christmas, happy new year and get out and train.
It was always baffling to me how almost every MMA gym in Poland (especially in smaller towns) "teaches MMA". If you ask trainers what's their background it will probably be the only answer x)
I feel since we have so many different styles it probably helps to have people who are proficient in each primary style that we see in MMA
However MMA has definitely become it's own thing and should teach MMA
Wow man you always have good advice and opinions, very informative and Interesting, makes you think
Very short , simple and powerful information.😊👍
Happy new year, you glorious bastard!
Me Dewey , you are a true master, gentleman, teacher.Your word is god in the world of martial arts thank you for your you tube info ; it has the most to say over any other martial arts channels and thank you truly
My Mother & Father are very different people & at the same time almost identical now & then. They've said few things to me that perfectly matched up. But this is one of the things they both told me word-for-word verbatim; "You can't learn everything at once."
Maybe a couple of things at once for multi-taskers but even then there's a limit. My Father followed it up later with, "Pick one thing & master it's basics before moving onto another if you must."
Thanks again for another lesson Mr. Dewey. Now if only I can actually do something with it this time hahaha!
That was a very good answer.
Thanks.
another awesome video Ramsey!!!
Hmmm. I could add two more things to this
One is that MMA still makes ppl think straight away about UFC which is brutal and serious. So they're not sure yet if they want to join and commit on that level. Many ppl I asked about why not joining replied this way. On the other side we have sports like kickboxing which ppl can relate to kickboxing fitness classes of low level of commitment.
Second thing is that MMA is still quiet young, competing to othe combat sports. We have plenty of kickboxing coaches but still few teaching MMA. Maybe my generation of fighters (when I finally become one 😅) will produce more specifically MMA coaches.
Who knows...
Great video like always! All best!
I also believe that some people are talented in a specific area, like wrestling and when they train mma they always go to their comfort zone.
So if you force them to maybe do a boxing or kickboxing fight they will become a better well rounded fighter
I feel like the classes should be split depending on the focus of the fighter. A striker doesn't need to learn a lot of grappling and a grappler doesn't need to learn a lot of striking. But they should still come together often for a general class to learn the other aspects of the sport.
@Cynical MGTOW if you can do a triangle choke you can do an arm bar. Break the arm. Release. Now you have 2 guys to worry about. They might reconsider attacking. Either way. If your getting jump your getting jump. Your wing Chun or krav isn't going to help any more then a solid grappling background
Cynical MGTOW: your understanding of fighting is as ridiculously ideological and uninformed as your understanding of women. There are hundreds of videos and news reports of people using grappling to win streets fights, including of women defeating men, such as attempted rapists and robbers.
MGTOW is a hate cult. You are everything you claim to despise in feminism. MGTOW is just like the KKK except you losers direct your hatred towards women instead of racial minorities.
@@harageilucid4352 stop, stop! He's already dead :'(
As mma fighter one should train all the aspects of fighting but in camps prioritize the training on the opponent and your fighting style.
I don't recognize the situation at all. The gyms I know and train(ed) at, yes, they had separate striking and grappling classes but they also had classes that were purely about integrated MMA. Drills and then sparring that were 100% MMA. The thing is, if you then suck at either striking or grappling, you'll suck at those classes as well. So you simply need to have a certain minimum level of proficiency before there is any point of you doing actual MMA.
I've been at gyms where the only thing taught was MMA. And most of the people there were not very good at anything. jacks of all trades, master of none. So I think teaching the disciplines separately and then integrate them is the way to go.
Nice profile picture
So I just came Mack from one an hour ago. He’s talking about the multi TAM dojos that falsely advertise as a MMA gym and most likely you can’t compete in anything other than traditional martial art competitions (assuming the possibility is even there in the first place)
They also might not even have gym stuff and it’s just a padded floor
This has popped into my feed a few years late, whatever about what you have to say your beard is amazing in this one. A large part of why I watch your videos is I just like the sound of your voice. I'm past training because I'm old and fat now but I like to hear about mma training. Hell of a beard, this suits you more than your egg with a 3 day beard look
Happy New Year, amigos!
Thank you Sir.
I was actually looking at MMA gyms here in Stockholm yesterday, and was surpriced to find that most local gyms don´t offer the split Kickboxing/BJJ classes. Some did , but most seems to teach MMA as a whole! Maybe that is because we have a relatively long history of MMA in Stockholm, and many have shooto or submission wrestling as a base, and have been teaching complete systems since before BJJ grew in to what it is today
So which MMA gym should i go to in Stockholm?
@@lll8476 I don´t really know, but I´ve heard good things about Pancrase Gym, Omar Bouiche´s gym at Rådmansgatan
@Khabib Nurmagomedov do they train MMA dduring their mma classes ? any details ? /advice ?
My local gym has some "split" classes and some mixed. I like that system because then you for example can focus just on BJJ, position or technique without worrying about ground and pound. Then next class when you mix its easier to apply because you've practiced it properly in sparring.
Amazing insight
@ramsey thanks for your motivation I have now transition from kyokushin karate to MMA .
Happy New Year!
You hit it right in the button!!!!
This is very true; it's hard finding MMA classes in MMA gyms as I want to learn transitions
Mixed Martial Arts means exactly that! Different combinations of various Martial Art. One just needs to find which set of skills are most suited for him and MIXED them up in a combination that works best for him.
Thats too hard and complex.. The guys that just train in mma simplify moves and have to dismiss about 80 percent of the moves from other.. Its all about ego investment and wanting to abandon time learnt in ineffective moves..
My MMA gym had MMA classes, that basically consisted of sparring with little drill work and some ground game. They used to ask us what we wanted to drill, and people would stand there not saying anything, until I'd say "footwork" Or something else. The class attendees were confused teenagers and uni students and crazy, maybe mentally unstable, men who just violently through haymakers in light sparring. We had one guy who would try and "co-teach" me whilst the trainer was talking, he'd then proceed to slap or hit me in the back of the head in every drill. I barely advanced in skill, and when one of my friends enquired, he was told that we're supposed to be going to the boxing, muay thai and bjj classes before the mma classes. The thing is, there are techniques that you can't use in certain sports, you didn't learn any wrestling and the bjj didn't teach you how to cope with ground strikes and such. Unfortunately I had to watch and learn online, to then try and apply it in my sparring to test myself.
Started out boxing and never liked MMA but I joined the UFC Gym in Baton Rouge yesterday and went headfirst into sparring with with some of the MMA guys and not gonna lie had so much fun I want to start both sports.
My gym teaches a little bit of everything, from Muay Thai, boxing, jiu jitus, wrestling and judo techniques. A bit of everything. My classes are an hour long and multiple days a week. We spar grappling and drill striking techniques. I’m with a good team thankfully.
This is one of your most important videos i think. So let's say you want to learn MMA, what do you do? Well, i think you should make another video showing how you train with new people(please). Now, i want to share my experience, i only did 3 sessions of training and i am a complete beginner. The coach at my gym simply said: if we start with a single discipline we will get old when we get to MMA. So even as a beginner i have 3 sessions per week, boxing, kickboxing and wrestling. I do different things or varations but the warmup and the exercises after class are destroying my body. It's just that MMA means you have to have a good bodyweight(the thiner the better) and my wrists hurt, my abs, my legs hurt for a week almost in my first session and it was boxing. So...it's easy to teach a single discipline, especially when you are basing your teaching on strike power but you need so much more for the complete picture. Now...i don't know if i am lucky or unlucky but when i learn how to fight i can go in the weekends for sparring(they spar every weekend one day and that's day nr 4 of training)...but it's 10X harder than going to the gym, i still go to the gym
That is the key of mixed martial arts...you can choose whatever martial arts you like and string them together to fit your style. Its like a buffet table for fighting.
Observations: The majority of schools I see are really one discipline, but trying to get the MMA marketing stimulus package lol. Most of what I see: Black belt in GJJ/BJJ, that has one of their blue/brown belts teaching boxing or kickboxing 2 or 3 nights a week. Muay Thai Kru who has a business partner that teaches BJJ in the mornings every day. 10th Planet JJ squad that has Wrestling 2 days a week and MMA 3 nights a week. In short, mostly marketing... but sometimes Not o_O... Then you have the weird intersection of “Self Defense” and “Combat Sports”.
It’s not much different than the late 90s / early 2000s when Wing Chun and Tai Chi started getting really popular. Every Karate school around here started trying to look like a KungFu school. TKD guys are suddenly teaching “slow” forms with Tai Chi symbols in the signs. Everybody’s got a Wing Chun / JKD class. Now it’s just MMA’s turn to be the market boon.
And it works, around here at least, mostly because actual MMA gyms are often double or triple the price. And there’s the yelp reviews / stereotypes out there of 1) big class sizes and they don’t give you time unless you’re one of the fighters, 2) very uninviting atmosphere where people focus on themselves more than help newbs, etc. A BJJ school with some muay thai and judo is still traditional enough to have that “family” aura many ppl actually crave
Here in London, UK, there do are MMA gyms that, beside the usual BJJ and Muay Thai classes, also offer specific MMA classes.
Maybe separating the MAs into individual classes allows the fighter to put together their own style, instead of learning from a coach that has already decided which moves work for him. Maybe the fighter comes to the same conclusion but then they had the opportunity to explore the strengths and weaknesses.
I think you kinda have to focus on each aspect individually to do them any justice putting it all together is where talent becomes most important
I get frustrated sometimes because there’s very few dedicated MMA classes at the gyms near me. There’s pretty much just open mats and fight camps.
My gym does BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, Kickboxing and MMA Striking / Grappling classes as well, it really helps people not only train MMA as a whole, but also specialise in the discipline they enjoy the most, for example boxing and BJJ for me.
MMA training probably also gets broken up into these separate disciplines, even in legitimate gyms, because that's how the instructors learned MMA. MMA is still new and, as it evolves, we're seeing less of this delineation and more of a holistic approach to technique that works.
Sometimes it is marketing. A martial arts school is a business most of the time. You will see many places post MMA, Yoga, etc.
Since i cannot see any competent coach here in our town, i'm just acquiring knowledge by watching useful and informative channels 😁😁😁
Omg , you just described my gym , the issue though, if you know and are friends with everyone, its difficult to turn your back to them and go train with someone else 😒
Not enough coaches have competed in mma which is why mma classes are broken down.. Plus the ego investment in one art makes people averse to mixing the arts. Eg u can end up hardly doing any kicks.. I think.
Hi Ramsey!!!
I wish you could make a video on your experience training Capoeira!
I am very interested in what you have to say about it!!
The key, is in the transitions between the Kickboxing and the Jujitsu.
If you take a Jujitsu class, and a kickboxing class, you dont have that.
If you take an MMA class, the kickboxing now sets up the Jujitsu.
This is pretty cool my MMA class actually does meld its styles together with wrestling and BJJ in our striking and our sparring has a lot of takedowns with the striking
This was a good conversation.
Most of the gyms I went to in the past broke down the classes by subject such as BBJ, Muay Thai, boxing , Judo and so on. They also ran conditioning classes, but they usually also had a MMA class to tie it together. It was just up to the student to attend the class they wanted. Not all students wanted to fight. Some guys stuck to BBJ or Judo. Other guys stuck to the striking arts. Some guys trained more MMA classes but still seemed to focus on certain classes over others. There used to be many MMA gyms in my city considering it was the fight capital of the world. Not so much anymore. MMA is not as popular here now and many of those gyms have closed😔
What city is that?
I'm personally of the opinion that learning each discipline, then combining them through MMA training or something like it is a much better way to learn than training all of them together, as doing them together, in my opinion, can lead to a more shallow understanding of each art. It's important to work to combine everything you can do if you want to do well, but I think that a deep understanding of various martial arts should be the step taken before that.
Prepare yourself to throw 90% of each discipline in the garbage after you go through the painstaking process of learning them only to realize that MMA is a completely different sport.
@@RamseyDewey while it's true that some of it doesn't transfer well, most of it can be adapted fairly well, very few things are instantly transferrable, but most of it can work if you can do the work to adapt it. At the end of the day someone who's done a few years of boxing for example will probably be better with their hands than a person who's done combined training for the same amount of time. The boxer still loses that fight due to being one dimensional, but if someone dedicates that amount of time to each art, then works to incorporate as much of it as they can, I think that leads to a more varied and well rounded fighter. I'm mostly defending the idea that separate classes for each art need to exist, not that they should be the only thing a person does.
I think I may have communicated my idea poorly in my original comment.
I love the video ^^
I live in Melbourne Australia and the gym I train at teach BJJ, Muay Thai, Wrestling ASWELL AS MMA specific classes, it’s has intro classes for beginners then goes into fundamental classes then the higher up classes.
100% correct about those types of gyms. You can tell by the things they often say in the corner like "Remember who your coach is!" Greg Jackson *cough *cough
Where I train does both, there are specialised classes but every day there is at least 2 mma classes, one in the morning and one in the evening
i had a 4-12 ammy record in 6 years training with a taekwondo guy who tried to teach mma 2 years at a mma school from a fighter who actually fought teaches mma and gi and no gi jujitsu as a professional now im 4-2 big difference
Can I ask where you train at?
@@coltonbries2342 Rock City mma
Was seriously just thinking this. I go to a ufc gym and it seriously only has muay thai, boxing and bjj.. not a single mma class
Right.
ufc gym lmao
"ufc gym" this guy🤦♂️
@@arandompersonlol1202 those are real, in california there are UFC owned gyms
I assume this is done to make it easier for the teachers and students. I know a very few people who are good at both striking and grabbling, let alone people who can teach them well. Hiring a different coach for specific area is efficient in a sense. It would be better if you would have someone who can teach both, but I think another soulution is that, there could be "3rd coach" who wouldn't really teach technique, but the application to MMA.
5:47 love it
I personally think you should be experienced in at least one martial art first before stepping into MMA. Mine was Muay Thai and Boxing and an MMA coach then helped round out my fighting style for MMA.
Damn im trying to get into mma and i also do boxing and muay thai. Whats ur fighting style btw? I want to have a gsp/khabib fighting style.
that would be the case 10 years ago but mma now is definitely its own style we have kids now that are training mma as its own style the thing i would say if you are someone who plans on competing in mma i would recommend competing in bjj , wrestling , k1 , muay thai , boxing as well as mma and that will give you a massive advantage over someone like a wrestler who then comes over to mma. plus another thing to add is like 70% of techniques in a certain martial art do not work in mma for example speaking from experience i can hit ankle picks for days in wrestling practise but cannot hit it in mma sparring because of strikes and knees.
I could just listen to u talk about apples for hours like it don’t matter. The cadence the voice this guy is Fucking mint
Happy New Year and Solemnity of the Mary the Mother of God everyone! May God bless you all with a fruitful and grace filled year of mercy and love!
I had a wrestling coach that was a football coach.....was not good wrestling. However he was a good guy and he cared.
Hey Ramsey got a question for you ,
I’ve trained at a few gyms now and nearly every place tells you to throw a hook differently ,some people say the fist should be horizontal and others say vertical , I don’t mind striking either way but is there any advantage or disadvantages to striking either way or is it just preference on the person ? Just wondering your thoughts on this cheers mate !
Watch his video about hooks. It's one of the Q and A with the coach vids. Talks about where to put your knuckles during the hook, and body mechanics of hooks too.
Wild World cheers ! I’ll give it a watch this arvo !
Try hitting a bag with and without gloves. You may find your own answer...
Arguing over how to hold your fist for a hook < training to actually land a hook
fuck, this is exactly the topic thats been itching my brain for such a long time, but never could find a way to discuss it
The MMA school i went to had submission wrestling, boxing, and kickboxing classes, but had advanced pankration classes with sparring. Currently just doing jiu jitsu because I moved and my current gym is literally next door lol
From my experience they only teach those that are planning on competing in a MMA cage or even Kickboxing or Muay Thai fighters so they can sharpen there ground game in case they are planning to compete in a MMA cage.
Hi Ramsey, I also hold the opinion (especially for young kids) that doing wrestling + Tkd + boxing give more opportunities for competition at there age then MMA. But and big but I advise doing a mix of 3 base arts not one.
I trained in a gym for years that simply trained up fighting and ground fighting, no belts no pajamas, just mma. I only left because I was being pressured to get promoted and cut unrealistic weight. This gym produced a few high tier fighters but I don’t want to lose my privacy by saying which but it was reputable before a top level guy had a falling out and opened his own gym in the same city. I send my daughter to the new one that teaches everything separately and she mostly only does bjj at 16
Well said
Nice video
The guy is as wise as his beard tells.👌
That's a magnificent beard sir.
If your wanting transition to MMA and you already have lots if experience Boxing and Muay Thai and just a little bit in BJJ
How often would you recommend to train
(Ground)
Grappling/Wrestling/ BJJ?
(Clinch)
Wrestling/Muay Thai ?
(Stand Up)
Boxing/Muay Thai/ TKD ?
I tried joining an MMA school for their fitness program only. I showed up and they kept trying to get me to do jiu jitsu. Whipped out the clip board and went over how much my equipment, a gi, gloves etc.. would cost. "I just wanted to do the fitness part pal" he was like "That's part of the fitness is jiu jitsu and striking" I then noticed it didn't have any fitness equipment in the building. Just a few bags. Biggest waste of time, ignored all the info I gave in my short entrance interview, just saw dollar signs.
Hey Ramsey! Can you please do a video on how to fill a heavy bag? :D
Here’s one I made about 12 years ago: ruclips.net/video/LMMTnxv7xes/видео.html
@@RamseyDewey legend, cheers coach!
I personally think that MMA gyms should do both, because the base of MMA is developing various Martial Arts to apply them in a fight. But if people have an interest for competition there should be sparing for sport-like competitions which must include the rules of the cage.
My gym has Jiujitsu and Muay Thai classes among others and as people rank up in their belt than they can go to the MMA classes, which is twice a week.
Hey, Ramsey. Can you elaborate what would be a solid schedule for training in a MMA gym?
Assuming you already know how to fight: Two sessions per day, 90 minutes to 2 hours each. One session on strength and conditioning, on session on technique and sparring.
It annoyed the shit out of me going to different MMA schools and I was forced to basically hide all my weapons because they only wanted to grapple. As a striker I saw a lot of opportunities..but was not allowed to test my ideas because nobody wanted to get punched on the floor or getting kneed in the clinch. If I want BJJ, I will go to a BJJ school. If I dont want grappling I will stick with MT, Karate, etc. I wanted to mix it up. Could not find a school. Really sad.
The mma gym arround here has just mma classes... They might do a little bit more grappling or striking for a class, but they spar with mma rules in the end... However... The same instructor teaches sanda and bjj in the same school as separated classes... Most mma fighters go to all 3 of them...
The gyms that I have been to teach MMA as separate classes but they expect you to be well versed in grappling and striking before you can take them.
In yang sau chungs tai chi ' self defense set' we have a bakers dozen of introductions to other styles
This is my gym pretty much
Ramsey put it perfectly MMA is not a style it is actually a concept where we practice more than one style or system. It is tested in a sporting arena with specific rules that protected the athletes. UFC, Pride, belator etc. In truth MMA in its essence has no rules, you are learning to fight in every and any way using every tool at your disposal.
Therefore if you want to master striking learn from proper striking arts, boxing, muay Thai, karate etc.
learn ground work from Wrestling, JJ etc. choosing an art as a foundation yet complete yourself in the other styles that yours lack.
If you look at all MMA champions they all have a foundation martial art that is the centre peice of the way they fight. however are well versed in the other forms.
And as stated by Ramsey he is right in saying in whatever you train in and master test it in MMA conditions ie spar in MMA where you can truly bring it all together and see what actual works effectively.
Did you check out the DareDevil Sn3 church fight scene with DareDevil fighting Bullseye on RUclips that I recommended to you?
What you said about good fighters overcoming bad coaches reminds me of a certain video of a certain guy hitting another guy while he was doing a hanging inversion...
The worst part is when they say they are a mma gym, but instead they do either way too much striking or bjj, and neglect the other aspect almost entirely.
That happened at the last "mma gym" I was at. It was pretty much just a bjj club.
Many gyms here in Colombia offers mma classes separed from the bjj and muay thai classes, that is my question, How one can know if a gym is good? , really I want to learn all the stuff
To the person who comment was to go to google. The question was not for you.
So please keep your comment to yourself, thank you!
I have that same shirt! 🤗