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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
  • Ever since the 1969 riots on the streets outside New York City’s Stonewall Inn, L.G.B.T.Q. communities have gathered there to express their joy, their anger, their pain and their power.
    Few places are so tightly identified with the birth of a movement as the Stonewall Inn and the streets that surround it, in the downtown Manhattan neighborhood of Greenwich Village. This month marks 50 years since the Stonewall riot, which galvanized a half-century of activism and agitation for L.G.B.T. rights and made Stonewall a recurring stage for public protest, grieving and celebration.
    Cheryl Furjanic’s new Op-Doc, “Stonewall: The Making of a Monument” traces that history, exploring the process by which a chaotic street fight in protest of police brutality has been engraved into history in the form of a national monument. Furjanic’s film, built from a chorus of voices and archival footage, is also a case study in how mainstream acceptance can, ironically, be a mixed blessing for political movements, as people struggle to control their own history.
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Комментарии • 218

  • @kitterzy
    @kitterzy 5 лет назад +456

    If it wasn’t for these people, I would have been afraid for what is in store for my transgender son. The path ahead is still being forged, but my hope is that my son has a place in this world without discrimination and hate. I won’t stop fighting for peace, acceptance, and a happy life for him until I no longer can draw breath.

    • @asianjedi9984
      @asianjedi9984 5 лет назад +42

      Kitterz Thank you for being so open and open-minded about your son. Not all parents are like you. Thank you! (Hugs)

    • @zlatko8051
      @zlatko8051 5 лет назад +20

      I want to say,as a pansexual,good luck to you and your Son.

    • @frenchanthony2226
      @frenchanthony2226 5 лет назад +17

      You are a remarkable person and your son is very lucky to have you!

    • @kitterzy
      @kitterzy 5 лет назад +9

      French Anthony Actually, I’m lucky to have *him* because he and his sister are amazing and talented ppl. Even though sometimes I want to strangle them, they are really great kids.

    • @michelcomenta
      @michelcomenta 5 лет назад +12

      Your son is already lucky to have a parent like you 💖

  • @luxusken05
    @luxusken05 5 лет назад +245

    I just can't stop my tears watching this. Thank you to everyone who fought before us

    • @alexv0009
      @alexv0009 4 года назад +2

      that name tho

    • @ultimatesunrise
      @ultimatesunrise Год назад

      God stated his opinion with AIDS.. same thing happened in exodus.. well same premise

  • @ShannaRiley
    @ShannaRiley 5 лет назад +112

    Thank you for this and thank you for all who fought and continue to fight.

  • @marcuthorne
    @marcuthorne 5 лет назад +97

    This is a very powerful doc and I hope it never gets taken down and that more people watch it. Thank you for making this.

  • @charlieadams9260
    @charlieadams9260 5 лет назад +99

    Never forget our history. Great piece, thanks to those involved in putting this together.

  • @river7369
    @river7369 5 лет назад +25

    Without knowing me you’all fought for my rights a long time ago, thank you from the bottom of my heart!!

  • @gominuke
    @gominuke 5 лет назад +77

    what a beautiful and powerful op-doc. thank you for representing our history.

  • @nekoii22
    @nekoii22 4 года назад +18

    I will never understand how someone can have a problem with someones sexual orientation?? I was brought up in a catholic house, Im married with a son, And when that topic comes up saying it’s “wrong” wrong how why are people so worried about someone elses sexual preference why do people think they can dictate who someone chooses to love? All love is accepted

  • @animeargonaut3127
    @animeargonaut3127 3 года назад +12

    Literally bawling in the middle of the night. What these people didn't know at the time is that their fight inspired LGBTQ all over the world. From a person who has lived in a country all the way on the other side of the planet, thank you.

  • @celieboo
    @celieboo 4 года назад +43

    I am standing in the gym, bawling.
    Adoption is one of the greatest gifts a parent can give their child. I could care less when someone tells me "we're pregnant!" But when I hear someone adopted a baby, I am like "I want to hear EVERY detail of your adoption story and making your family whole!"
    I couldn't care for you, so I gave you an opportunity to go to a family that could.

  • @katherinelong5411
    @katherinelong5411 5 лет назад +39

    Thank you for this !!! The young generation need to know about Stonewall. I am so proud I've seen Sylvia Rivera, Marsha P. Johnson and Barack Obama.

    • @goodgirlkay
      @goodgirlkay 5 лет назад +2

      Wtf did Obama do to make you so proud?

    • @enzedbrit
      @enzedbrit 5 лет назад

      Why just Rivera and Johnson? Many, many men and women did their part

    • @ziejackson6236
      @ziejackson6236 4 года назад +4

      @kid flash channel I assume you are a child because that comment was very juvenile

    • @kotaniyumiko
      @kotaniyumiko 4 года назад +10

      @@goodgirlkay He's the first president to openly be an ally. The man who was in the most powerful position in the world supported those who are hounded for something they cant change.

  • @everretchancellor2243
    @everretchancellor2243 Год назад +2

    After watching this. It gave me a new appreciation for the fight , because who knew that we actually did fight and it was in words but also in actions. Thank you for all you've done to help move us forward.

  • @benberkowitzmusic
    @benberkowitzmusic 5 лет назад +28

    Im crying at 2 am

  • @cookdacat8684
    @cookdacat8684 3 года назад +22

    Being a bisexual girl, the people who fought and continue to fight have changed the lives of so many. Thank you for making this about our history and thank you to all those who stood up to people who said they were wrong for loving who they loved.

  • @kurtstriegler8909
    @kurtstriegler8909 3 года назад +5

    This is more relevant than ever! Thanks for putting this inspiring clip out there. And lets stay vigilant, united and strong.

  • @arijeanz
    @arijeanz 3 года назад +5

    I'm not even an american lgbt person but something hit me hard when they played that recording of marsha at around the 3:30 mark. something about being able to listen to the voice of a legend hits diff

  • @bengkulujambi2012
    @bengkulujambi2012 5 лет назад +8

    Thank you all who fought for us.

  • @caducoppini
    @caducoppini 5 лет назад +16

    Powerful! Brought me to tears!

  • @rahimshakur7358
    @rahimshakur7358 Год назад +3

    They (Marsha and Sylvia) were on the front lines fighting the police in defense of us, and we didn't accept them. We were afraid they would complicate our call for justice/equality because the straight community was opposed to who they were.....this is our history and we should learn from it. Bless Marsha and Sylvia 🙏 RIP

  • @sweetlo17
    @sweetlo17 5 лет назад +22

    This was amazing. Thank you!

  • @JeanSantana000
    @JeanSantana000 4 года назад +23

    Beautifully well done, but why nothing has been said about Marsha Johnson?

    • @milofarah8773
      @milofarah8773 4 года назад +5

      Marsha, while she was a persistent fighter, denied credit for the first brick. First shot glass, first stone, whichever story you hear.

  • @DontStopReadin
    @DontStopReadin 5 лет назад +30

    This was beautiful and so informative.

    • @misteranthropy7082
      @misteranthropy7082 4 года назад +7

      @kid flash channel are you replying to every comment? Jesus, pick up a hobby

  • @susanp3608
    @susanp3608 2 года назад +2

    We don't need a parade - we need to march. In the name of LOVE we are not the one's commiting acts of violence....

  • @nidhavellir
    @nidhavellir 5 лет назад +8

    Very moving, thank you NYT.

  • @asmita3994
    @asmita3994 3 года назад +2

    Thank you for this doc.Happy pride everyone❤

  • @galolito
    @galolito 2 года назад +3

    In 1969 there were 3 TV networks none of which reported on Stonewall. The country depended on those networks and their local city newspaper and maybe the state newspaper of record. If any of those newspapers carried a story about Stonewall, it would have been a filler or 'news of the weird'. I only found out about it because I was in college and found the story in the Village Voice at the college library. I don't think that most of the country really found out about it until the student groups at colleges started having Stonewall anniversary events.

  • @gladysquesada5048
    @gladysquesada5048 5 лет назад +11

    Every city has a spot like this. A dark park, a bar...and there´s where culture grows, you know...

    • @Kalopazia
      @Kalopazia 5 лет назад +1

      whats significant about stonewall is that these are some of the very first moments in history where the lgbt community fought back against their oppression

    • @ziejackson6236
      @ziejackson6236 4 года назад +1

      @@Kalopazia no it isn't there where lgbt rights movements long before stonewall

  • @rohansaxena4751
    @rohansaxena4751 5 лет назад +14

    It's because of those brave men and women who fought for us then that we can proudly call ourselves part of the LGBT community today🏳️‍🌈

  • @michelcomenta
    @michelcomenta 5 лет назад +9

    A beautiful story. Thank you Marsha, Silvia and everyone who paved our path with fight. We wouldn't be able to get here without you. 💘🏳️‍🌈

    • @SPRDAVE
      @SPRDAVE Год назад

      mental illness

  • @harlow9175
    @harlow9175 5 лет назад +7

    Just beautiful ! Thank you .

  • @AlexRiversMusic
    @AlexRiversMusic 4 года назад +10

    Wow 💯

  • @JulioSSierraCamarena
    @JulioSSierraCamarena 5 лет назад +6

    This is so inspiring.

  • @natyspaghettighetti6726
    @natyspaghettighetti6726 4 года назад +3

    chills

  • @sinthorana2814
    @sinthorana2814 5 лет назад +38

    Stars, i miss Obama...

    • @Lovelyalaajiah
      @Lovelyalaajiah 4 года назад +2

      Me too🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈🌈

    • @harryb3456
      @harryb3456 4 года назад

      @@Lovelyalaajiah I kind of want to support the lgbt community now. 😐

  • @christined5885
    @christined5885 5 лет назад +11

    Well done documentary!

  • @Amahla
    @Amahla 4 года назад +5

    Amazing

  • @spencerbergquist781
    @spencerbergquist781 Год назад +1

    Excellent documentary

  • @The_General_Zubas
    @The_General_Zubas 5 лет назад +34

    12:00 Both theze lady's get it..
    They GET IT!
    The LGBTQs have to stick together!

  • @girliboi
    @girliboi 5 лет назад +12

    always love me some sylvia rivera.. wish somebody would do a proper full length doc of her life.

    • @girliboi
      @girliboi 5 лет назад +5

      gtfo nobody is requiring you to watch

  • @TheLynnsepeda
    @TheLynnsepeda 5 лет назад +4

    Thank you. ❤️

  • @ryanlovejoy810
    @ryanlovejoy810 5 лет назад +9

    absolutely amazing ❤️

  • @johern
    @johern 5 лет назад +3

    Very moving video

  • @mrbutch308
    @mrbutch308 2 года назад +2

    Excellent. A fine documentary on the story of the Stonewall and the beginnings of the LGBTQ+ Rights Movement.

  • @lazlomattachine8334
    @lazlomattachine8334 4 года назад +4

    Respect your elders.

  • @SoundBlackRecordings
    @SoundBlackRecordings 5 лет назад +3

    Made me tear up.

  • @roder51
    @roder51 Год назад +1

    Politicians telling us what's right and wrong. That's a joke in itself.

  • @4uanC
    @4uanC 5 лет назад +8

    What's up with the Shaemus picture? 🤔

  • @nuksvlog1084
    @nuksvlog1084 3 года назад +1

    such a nice movie

  • @mislovelover31
    @mislovelover31 2 года назад +2

    Why wasn't Stormé DeLarverie mentioned?

    • @bigernkingpin
      @bigernkingpin 2 года назад

      Cos factual history is not fashionable in todays politicsl climate

  • @subversivelysurreal3645
    @subversivelysurreal3645 5 лет назад +11

    One more little big point: Anita Hill, beauty-pageant winner and known merely as a spokeswoman
    for Oranges via Advertisements, became a Spokeswoman who declared: “Homosexuals should NOT be
    allowed to teach our children! “
    Yet, because women were fired upon committing the ‘Act of Marriage’...who HAD taught America’s children,
    in the 1920’s, 1930’s and 1940’s and 1950’s...?!
    This was a profound coming together of these #ChristianFundamentalists...#Fascism, right now.

    • @kilianfitzgerald5899
      @kilianfitzgerald5899 5 лет назад +8

      Subversively Surreal Hi, you meant Anita Bryant. Everything else is dead on:

    • @mamumaumau3320
      @mamumaumau3320 5 лет назад

      It was Anita Bryant....not Anita Hill.....typical liberal who does not know jack but has an opinion on
      just about everything.....you loud mouthed twit!!!!!

  • @economieliberale5189
    @economieliberale5189 Год назад

    Happy Pride!!!! Let's continue to fight against segregation and hatred.

  • @kevindaniolp9390
    @kevindaniolp9390 Год назад +2

    🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈❤❤

  • @victoriat9145
    @victoriat9145 4 года назад +5

    this video fails to address why this building was raided though :/

  • @manputty4u
    @manputty4u 5 лет назад +2

    The movement did not happen in a vacuum. It has to be seen in the context of the anti-war movement.

    • @alexwarner6111
      @alexwarner6111 4 года назад

      It prob did make them braver in the sense of protest and marches, but the movement still would have happened anyway

  • @mercymathitu6208
    @mercymathitu6208 4 года назад +1

    So 2020 Kenya is 1960s US for LGBT+ rights? This is so sad. Am an ally who hopes that it will get better.

  • @changgun_film5003
    @changgun_film5003 5 лет назад +5

    Love u man

  • @finnadrian
    @finnadrian 5 лет назад +3

    So that thumbnail of this white dude...

  • @dimonklewort6291
    @dimonklewort6291 5 лет назад +1

    Rear-wheel drive is a big problem not only in new York city .

    • @keicbell
      @keicbell 5 лет назад +1

      That's a reductionist, cheap shot

    • @dimonklewort6291
      @dimonklewort6291 5 лет назад

      ​@@keicbell You don't know where they were aiming.

    • @dimonklewort6291
      @dimonklewort6291 5 лет назад

      ​IT ENDED THE HOLIDAY!!!!!

    • @dimonklewort6291
      @dimonklewort6291 5 лет назад

      @Siomarah Piquion👏👫 I from Russia with love.

    • @christoburger
      @christoburger 3 месяца назад

      Thats hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jacquelinejacksonfabre9290
    @jacquelinejacksonfabre9290 2 года назад +1

    PERSECUTED FOR BEING THEMSELVES AND MINDING THEIR OWN AFFAIRS.

  • @Metube9569
    @Metube9569 3 года назад +5

    Why do I still cry at this :')🥲💖

    • @rockyallison6809
      @rockyallison6809 3 года назад +1

      Me too. I’m cis but my brother and mother were LGBTQ+. I’m 70 so I remember all of this plus all my family went through.

  • @ultimatesunrise
    @ultimatesunrise Год назад

    Find repentance people.. god loves you ❤️

  • @KirsyReeds-yj3qj
    @KirsyReeds-yj3qj Год назад

    Free Tibet

  • @EgotistiCal
    @EgotistiCal 5 лет назад +6

    You keep poking a puppy and eventually it'll learn how to bite

    • @EgotistiCal
      @EgotistiCal 5 лет назад +6

      @Siomarah Piquion you like the idea of eating man meat?

    • @carolinacoreas7716
      @carolinacoreas7716 4 года назад +3

      @@Fyrdman I bet mommy let the wittle twoll play with the RUclips app.

  • @avayu2289
    @avayu2289 4 года назад +1

    I grew up well with bio parents yet with growing pains like everyone....In my life I have met some really accomplished as well as regular people who were adopted, so I think people should just be grateful that they met up with parents who wanted them and were in the position to care for them. I have also met people who grew up with abusive biological parents. Melodramas are just a waste of time. Always move on and pay it forward. Reliving difficult circumstances is futile. The past is done, the future unknown...all we have is the moment of now...🤓

    • @ziejackson6236
      @ziejackson6236 4 года назад +1

      I don't understand what that has to do with stonewall

    • @verenas3536
      @verenas3536 4 года назад +1

      @@ziejackson6236 I guess its autoplays fault , there is another docu about adoption in Korea. As I saw it as well, it comes before this.

    • @verenas3536
      @verenas3536 4 года назад +1

      hey Ava, wrong video. But to your comment- You are not adopted, you do not understand. And I did not see anyone in the video talking bad about their adoption parents. It just is a great loss and a traumatic experience. No matter how well you will have it with you adopting parents. And as a Korean and not white in a white family and community must also be an alienating experience or at least has the potential to do so.
      Being adopted myself - I think it is important to be able to talk about your experiences. I appreciated the docu vey much.

    • @ziejackson6236
      @ziejackson6236 4 года назад

      @@verenas3536 oh that makes sense thanks for clearing that up

  • @capersmith
    @capersmith 2 года назад +2

    It use to be about personal acceptance and being left to live your life, now it’s about compliance, making churches comply, making cake shops comply, forcing people to participate.

    • @TheKazadoodle
      @TheKazadoodle Год назад +1

      Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything. It's called 'acceptance'.

    • @capersmith
      @capersmith Год назад

      @@TheKazadoodle Demanding a cake is forcing.

    • @TheKazadoodle
      @TheKazadoodle Год назад +2

      @@capersmith So, a mother demanding a blue cake for her boy is also forcing?

    • @economieliberale5189
      @economieliberale5189 Год назад +1

      Happy Pride!!!! Let's continue to fight against segregation and hatred.

  • @blista2
    @blista2 5 лет назад +2

    fight for freedom and justice is not hard in the USA compared to other countries

    • @marcuthorne
      @marcuthorne 5 лет назад +3

      It is as hard as the majoritarian side makes it. Ranges from society to society. Granted the HK activists against Chinese oppression have it the hardest right now, but to fight against oppression is hard.

  • @fastdollar1
    @fastdollar1 5 лет назад +6

    Reading the title, I thought this was about General "Stonewall" Jackson from the Civil War.

    • @magicalgold010
      @magicalgold010 5 лет назад +1

      Ikr America has lost their senses and has turned disgusting

    • @orion7873
      @orion7873 5 лет назад +2

      No one at the NYT knows who General Stonewall Jackson was ...

    • @jimd8292
      @jimd8292 3 года назад +2

      @@orion7873 who cares about losers

    • @jimd8292
      @jimd8292 3 года назад +1

      @@magicalgold010 only your bigotry is disgusting

  • @ifka8123
    @ifka8123 5 лет назад

    Never knew abt it be4

  • @michaelnitsch4431
    @michaelnitsch4431 Год назад

    but god has th last say

  • @SPRDAVE
    @SPRDAVE 2 года назад +1

    completly discusting am,en

    • @starfox5352
      @starfox5352 Год назад +1

      L boz

    • @economieliberale5189
      @economieliberale5189 Год назад +4

      Happy Pride!!!! Let's continue to fight against segregation and hatred.

    • @starfox5352
      @starfox5352 Год назад +1

      @@economieliberale5189 w

    • @SPRDAVE
      @SPRDAVE Год назад

      @@economieliberale5189 god hates it.......... fight god ok . have fun ....

  • @seanaaron7888
    @seanaaron7888 5 лет назад +3

    Generally I dislike MSM but this is a good doc. This is great. Why can't you grab average people on every issue?

    • @lo-ero
      @lo-ero 5 лет назад +4

      Generally you’re a bad person.

    • @opaljk4835
      @opaljk4835 4 года назад

      Andreyah P which god?

  • @NajimiLyokoWorlds
    @NajimiLyokoWorlds 5 лет назад +2

    Not to be a little rude but how would they make babies now? Since LBGTQ is still a thing?

    • @kilianfitzgerald5899
      @kilianfitzgerald5899 5 лет назад +12

      Samantha Shimmer239587 Not rude but pretty dumb.

    • @lucianavieira2576
      @lucianavieira2576 5 лет назад +2

      The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

    • @RaymondHng
      @RaymondHng 5 лет назад +9

      Samantha Shimmer239587
      Where is there a requirement that one must make babies?
      For those who do choose to have families, there is adoption, in vitro fertilization, or surrogacy.

    • @goodgirlkay
      @goodgirlkay 5 лет назад +3

      It's called UVI and surrogacy. Only the trans in LGBTQ often become barren because of hormone therapy and surgery. The LGBQ can all reproduce.

    • @milofarah8773
      @milofarah8773 4 года назад +1

      Not everyone is required to have children. Many straight people are incapable of that. But to answer your question, some people adopt, artificially inseminate or have a surrogate.

  • @Marcpapi
    @Marcpapi 5 лет назад +1

    4 comments?

  • @FO2SH0Xy
    @FO2SH0Xy 4 года назад

    this world do deserve an apocalypse really

  • @anthonyenos2835
    @anthonyenos2835 2 года назад +1

    Sin is fun for a short time.Eternity is at stake.Only Jesus can offer salvation,He loves all he can forgive all sin .While we're alive have a chance to make into God's kingdom.Jesus died for sinners .............The only Hallowed Ground is where Jesus was crucified their he won the battle.Against Satan ..........Their is a spiritual battle that can only won by the blood of Jesus ...............................

    • @TheKazadoodle
      @TheKazadoodle Год назад +5

      Fun fact - not everyone believes in your religion.

  • @jhawk870
    @jhawk870 5 лет назад +1

    Who tf is Stonewall?

    • @certifyundeadrose1679
      @certifyundeadrose1679 5 лет назад

      Rebel General in the America Civil War

    • @opaljk4835
      @opaljk4835 4 года назад

      Certify Undeadrose confederate general*** they are known for losing the war that they started over slavery.

    • @82566
      @82566 2 года назад

      Stonewall Jackson ?

  • @eskinderalemayehu5602
    @eskinderalemayehu5602 5 лет назад

    Let us not judge these people leave it to God to decide their fate

    • @evyhorror
      @evyhorror 4 года назад +7

      God doesn't exist.

    • @opaljk4835
      @opaljk4835 4 года назад +1

      If you really thought that you wouldn’t have made that comment.

    • @kenny995
      @kenny995 2 года назад +1

      If God is truly all loving as people claim, then he would welcome them into heaven with open arms. Otherwise, he is not all loving.

  • @magicalgold010
    @magicalgold010 5 лет назад +6

    Remember what's written in the bible and Qur'an regarding the criminals of homosexuality and their punishments

    • @kilianfitzgerald5899
      @kilianfitzgerald5899 5 лет назад +26

      No one cares about your bigoted book.

    • @deliadlcx1598
      @deliadlcx1598 5 лет назад +15

      How about stfu?

    • @certifyundeadrose1679
      @certifyundeadrose1679 5 лет назад +9

      You need learn to not take things to heart, as it is nothing more than paranoid old men

    • @gabrielfranco8747
      @gabrielfranco8747 5 лет назад +11

      Dude why would you be spreading hate when your book is actually about love?

    • @kitterzy
      @kitterzy 5 лет назад +10

      You do know those are just books written by men, right?

  • @magicalgold010
    @magicalgold010 5 лет назад +3

    Humanity has left this earth

  • @joeker1962
    @joeker1962 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you president Trump!!! TRUMP 2020!!!

  • @elnahs7390
    @elnahs7390 5 лет назад +2

    lol disgusting

    • @willmartin3067
      @willmartin3067 4 года назад +2

      Bruh

    • @alexwarner6111
      @alexwarner6111 4 года назад +14

      Yes you are indeed

    • @82566
      @82566 2 года назад +2

      Yet here u r ???? 🤔😶‍🌫️

    • @jakkdlaw
      @jakkdlaw Год назад

      They are so lost, they actually think they are doing something good😂

  • @eskinderalemayehu5602
    @eskinderalemayehu5602 5 лет назад

    I pray Gods wrath is not like in sodom and Gomorrah where sulphuric rained on those cities.

    • @nidhavellir
      @nidhavellir 5 лет назад +3

      They did a great job on this documentary. Very inspiring.

    • @kitterzy
      @kitterzy 5 лет назад +5

      Sulphuric? Is that similar to acid rain? If so, we’ve had that for years now. Don’t think anyone has started melting yet.

    • @uberglamazon
      @uberglamazon 5 лет назад +3

      You mean the white invisible sky man?

    • @eskinderalemayehu5602
      @eskinderalemayehu5602 5 лет назад

      Kitterz this was like sulphuric fire burning and destroying everything I don’t think we have had that happen again after that but With Gods wrath u never know

    • @lazlomattachine8334
      @lazlomattachine8334 4 года назад

      Yeah, that sounds like a real bummer.

  • @michelnormandin8068
    @michelnormandin8068 5 лет назад +1

    Today's NYT libigoq propaganda moment.

    • @tristanstefanovic
      @tristanstefanovic 5 лет назад +17

      Michel Normandin it’s an OP-DOC, or OPINION documentary. This allows people to speak their voices, and is not meant to represent the NYT. Also, this is mostly a historical thing and not an opinion piece.

    • @opaljk4835
      @opaljk4835 4 года назад +2

      How is this propaganda? Do you know what propaganda is? I think you need to learn about propaganda before you use that word.

  • @SPRDAVE
    @SPRDAVE Год назад

    when all the evil get together they wont win either as this wont in the end .

  • @SPRDAVE
    @SPRDAVE Год назад

    my opinion is male/female period . offspring populate .