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    With us at the start of Pride Month and the ongoing riots, we thought it would be a good time to look at the Stonewall riots. In this video we discuss how the riots happened and how Stonewall sparked a movement in the LGBTQ+ community.
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Комментарии • 303

  • @WowUrFcknHxC
    @WowUrFcknHxC 4 года назад +33

    Marsha herself said she didn't throw the first brick. She said she wasn't even there until after they started protesting. Sylvia Rivera said she was there, but didn't remember who threw the first brick.

  • @yikes8932
    @yikes8932 4 года назад +191

    Not even fifteen minutes since the video was posted and we've already got quite a few dislikes - good to see the homophobes have notifications on.

    • @TLDRnews
      @TLDRnews  4 года назад +118

      Sadly every single Pride month video we've ever made has lost us subscribers. Unfortunately those people are completely supporting the fact that Pride is as relevant as ever - Jack

    • @yojasmagic
      @yojasmagic 4 года назад +8

      @@TLDRnews It's no surprise people don't want it in their feeds given how obnoxious the whole discussion has become. The comments on this video are going to be a riot, a-ha.

    • @Quintinohthree
      @Quintinohthree 4 года назад +17

      @@TLDRnews I'm glad you are not being intimidated by it. You are doing excellent work.

    • @PaRd_CrYpToHec
      @PaRd_CrYpToHec 4 года назад +11

      Gays have a whole month for remembrance, yet our soldiers have 1 day, Check wiki for a list of the pathetic number of LGBt awareness periods - highlights that an agenda is being forced upon other people

    • @anttibjorklund1869
      @anttibjorklund1869 4 года назад +28

      @Rampart The opposite of "LGBTQ+" isn't normal, it's straight.

  • @tomasroma2333
    @tomasroma2333 4 года назад +68

    With the Queer rights movement, I think it’s important to emphasis that campaigning has often come in waves. There were the waves before stonewall, and waves after but a really important wave was in 1978 with Antyta Bryant. She is sometimes ironically considered a gay icon but she opposed the gay rights movement to such a hyperbolic level that she actually caused a revival in the gay rights movement which had been faltering and had suffered several defeats. She campaigned heavily for the Briggs Initiative which would have fired all gay teachers in schools. However, she created a huge backlash and campaigning to oppose the Briggs initiative was so huge that eventually even the Democratic party and former Republican governor, Ronald Reagan, came out against it and it lost by nearly 60-40.
    Ironically without her, the gay rights movement might have faltered for many more years.

    • @tomasroma2333
      @tomasroma2333 4 года назад +3

      2manynegativewaves No, thats not what this teaches us. The gays didn’t just sit back and let her sprout her bullshit. Before the Briggs Initiative, she had a lot of success in Florida, Minnesota and Oregon. However, she failed in California because the Gay community there organised against her. She provided the inspiration for the gay community to campaign against her. Without their campaigning the Briggs Initiative probably would have passed.
      So no trans people should not just “shut up.” Instead they, and trans allies, should expose bigots for the ridiculous lies they spread.

  • @RBuckminsterFuller
    @RBuckminsterFuller 4 года назад +90

    The 10% dislike ratio means this video was needed. Good lord. Some people just can't help hating other people.

    •  4 года назад +3

      Correct me if I'm wrong but your saying that anyone that disagrees with your point of view is wrong and can be dismissed without listening to their argument?

    • @axelnils
      @axelnils 4 года назад +5

      Earl Minime There has never been any justification for hating and discriminating against a group of people

    • @ThoriaBladecadas
      @ThoriaBladecadas 4 года назад +4

      @ Would love to hear a rational argument for not supporting gay rights.

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 4 года назад +5

      @@axelnils are you kidding me? Rights and freedoms and civil liberties are all concepts that BELONG TO individuals, not to groups. I have every respect for everyone as an individual, but as soon as they bang on they're motivated to help a certain group of people, my respect for them is lost.

    • @jukebox_heroperson3994
      @jukebox_heroperson3994 4 года назад +2

      @@Albimar17 damn straight

  • @butterflysrage
    @butterflysrage 4 года назад +66

    Rights are never given, they are demanded.

    • @andrewfrancis3591
      @andrewfrancis3591 4 года назад +2

      Fought for!

    • @axelnils
      @axelnils 4 года назад +1

      Halon's Razor Have you heard about the Second World War? And the American revolution?

    • @ThoriaBladecadas
      @ThoriaBladecadas 4 года назад

      @Halon's Razor 1. The US ammendments only exist because the Constitution exists, which was created following the Revolutionary War.
      2. The UN only exists because of the Allies victory in WW2.
      3. Gandhi fought the British. Not violently yes but it's still a fight. And he certainly was attacked.
      4. Nature literally has tried to kill us since the dawn of time. Evolution's whole premise is survival of the fittest; which in itself is a fight to survive nature.

  • @aimeerivers
    @aimeerivers 4 года назад +6

    An absolutely fantastic video; very well researched and presented. Thank you so much for this, hugely enlightening.

  • @jamiemcmullan6890
    @jamiemcmullan6890 4 года назад +24

    stonewall happened in the year 1969.
    Nice.

    • @Diovanlestat
      @Diovanlestat 4 года назад +3

      My birth year, and my heart is breaking because now I'm old and grey and so much wicked discrimination and hatred exists. FFS Nazi's and the KKK still walk the streets

    • @Ellipsis115
      @Ellipsis115 4 года назад

      @Halon's Razor Holy shit really? I guess it really does show how much your government cares when they don't care about human rights of gay people abroad, they could push countries to change but no.

  • @LadyDoomsinger
    @LadyDoomsinger 4 года назад +15

    For a millennial like me, this kind of history lesson is particularly important, because we can't take the rights we have today for granted, nor should we forget the struggle of the generations that came before, that have allowed a trans woman like me to live openly, and even get a legal name change to suit my gender.
    But more than that, it is a reminder to everyone, not just LGBTQ+ people, that change and reform does not come easy, nor will it last unless we keep speaking up when our rights are violated.

  • @sambland3903
    @sambland3903 4 года назад +11

    As idubbbztv once said: ' I'm gay'

  • @shaesmith2831
    @shaesmith2831 4 года назад +10

    Thank you for this video. I think it’s important to remember those who fought for our rights and recognise that the fight continues around the world. Happy pride month everyone 🏳️‍🌈

  • @cheifwhat
    @cheifwhat 4 года назад +11

    There's a very good podcast on the subject by 99% invisible

    • @foxwagen9865
      @foxwagen9865 4 года назад

      Nice, which Episode?

    • @anirudh_iyer
      @anirudh_iyer 4 года назад

      @@foxwagen9865 Looking at episode titles, probably episode 218

  • @cheifwhat
    @cheifwhat 4 года назад +4

    Wasn't it largely inspired, for want of a better word, by the black rights movement in the USA that was already in full swing at that point?

  • @nicky-5731
    @nicky-5731 4 года назад +2

    That’s crazy! Pretty much they were arrested over someone else’s discretion.

  • @EconomicalUnicorn
    @EconomicalUnicorn 4 года назад

    The important history surrounding Stonewall was always inconsistent/confusing to me so its great this video nicely sums up what happened!

  • @shannonf101
    @shannonf101 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for a video on this ♡

  • @loganmacgyver2625
    @loganmacgyver2625 4 года назад +3

    we have the parade in August in budapest

    • @Ellipsis115
      @Ellipsis115 4 года назад

      Interesting, thank you for that fact, I'm gonna work that into conversation now xD

  • @WTF4Photography
    @WTF4Photography 4 года назад +3

    Bit disappointed with this one to be honest.
    Marsha, based on the accounts I've read of his own words, was not trans but a drag queen.Also, you only mention him and not name-check a couple of other key people who have been credited with key involvement, such as Sylvia Rivera or Stormé DeLarverie (who incidentally seems to be one of the main people associated with starting the riot). Certainly there are lots of differing accounts but it wouldn't have been hard for you to have name-checked a couple of them rather than just Marsha, and then incorrectly identifying him as trans.

  • @Leo99929
    @Leo99929 4 года назад +1

    I learned so much from this. I didn't know the Stonewall Inn story before. Also I was alive when gay marriage was legalised, but I hadn't consciously grasped just how relatively recent the other legal rights changes were. It's staggering because today to think an LGBTQ+ person should be treated anything other than equally to everyone else is overtly bigoted. It also explains why there are still the few usually older people who hold homophobic beliefs, and sometimes their children and grandchildren too. I don't feel like hate is innate, I feel like hate is learnt. Hopefully we will cancel out the teaching of current generations and the next one will be homophobia free.

  • @Blackholefourspam
    @Blackholefourspam 4 года назад +2

    Employment discrimination protection for Trans people, law enforcement accountability for black people, and justice for everyone this June!

  • @stocktonjoans
    @stocktonjoans 4 года назад +1

    when you say the mob set fire to the bar are you useing "mob" to mean the protesters or as a colloquialism for the mafia owners of the place?

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly 4 года назад

      You can’t even spell 😂🖕

    • @evaahh9584
      @evaahh9584 4 года назад +1

      Radical Rainbow I believe you forgot to properly end your sentence. You see, proper grammar mandates that one must put a “full stop” at the end of each sentence. Such a symbol should appear as a small dot when in text format.

    • @stocktonjoans
      @stocktonjoans 4 года назад

      ​@@CashelOConnolly you find one extra letter in a single word hilarious?
      you are one of the most pathetic people i've ever come across, and i've spent a lot of time in the youtube comments, so that's really saying something

  • @xtcfucker
    @xtcfucker 4 года назад +4

    It started as a rave, it ended as a riot.

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 4 года назад +1

      how the mighty (gays and blacks) have fallen... :)

  • @oliversmith9621
    @oliversmith9621 4 года назад +17

    I always hear people say “why do we still have pride, gay people r equal now” and of course the only people I hear say it r straight white males

    • @Ellipsis115
      @Ellipsis115 4 года назад +1

      I mean even so, isn't it kinda just fun? It's like asking, "why do we still have st. patricks day parades" save for gay people take up a waaaay larger portion of the population.

    • @eksortso
      @eksortso 4 года назад +1

      @@Ellipsis115 I doubt that, seeing as there many times more people of Irish descent in the US than there are Irish people living in all of Ireland. But I'll get back to your point...

    • @eksortso
      @eksortso 4 года назад

      @@Ellipsis115 Those parades can be good fun, though they don't delve too deeply into the history of LGBT activism. Those straight white guys don't remember what it took for you to be out in the open freely. You could mention the hell that the Irish immigrants had to deal with before being embraced fully. There's a strong tie-in right there, and one that some of those straight white people can understand.

    • @lovableasshole
      @lovableasshole 4 года назад +1

      I'm sad to report I've met plenty of people(cis male and female) from diverse ethnic backgrounds who say the same thing. Just as there's plenty of racist gay guys. Huzzah for ignorance being intersectional.

    • @lovableasshole
      @lovableasshole 4 года назад

      @@Ellipsis115 the parades have devolved into corporate advertisement campaigns and endless church groups, watched by families of straight people. If pride is a party it definitely not at the parades 😅

  • @Albimar17
    @Albimar17 4 года назад +2

    Yes, and I am also delighted about the advances made by the Queen Rights Movement.

  • @connormclernon26
    @connormclernon26 4 года назад +1

    Hello day of my birthday. Apparently June 28th was a day that resounded through history

  • @jackwright7014
    @jackwright7014 4 года назад

    Do you have a video about chlorinated chicken on the way?

  • @DanielJohnNicholson
    @DanielJohnNicholson 4 года назад +25

    Thank you for this video. As a gay teen, it's important that we learn about those who came before us and vastly improved gay rights in the Western world. There is much more to do both here and elsewhere in the world. 🏳️‍🌈❤️

    • @Sea-zu4bj
      @Sea-zu4bj 4 года назад +2

      You guys couldn’t find a better flag, rainbows look so childish

    • @josephcannon3938
      @josephcannon3938 4 года назад +6

      @@Sea-zu4bj with all the issues taking place in this community, the flag is what you take issue with?

    • @user-yz4xo7ih6m
      @user-yz4xo7ih6m 4 года назад +2

      Best of luck in Asia and the middle east

    • @frenchguitarguy1091
      @frenchguitarguy1091 4 года назад +2

      @@Sea-zu4bj jeez you're going to choose a flag to get offended by??

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 4 года назад

      "those who CAME before us" - I see what you did there XDDDD

  • @spoopytime9928
    @spoopytime9928 4 года назад +5

    This video gives me 1980s South Korea vibes. The military just massacred thousands of citizens including children who protested for democracy, that led to molotovs flying and citizens fighting back. Tear gas, tanks breaking into university campuses to stop the protests, thousands going to jail and getting tortured, and even ending up in concentration camps. The dictatorship eventually gave in and democracy started in 1987. The world's a scary place.

    • @Diovanlestat
      @Diovanlestat 4 года назад +2

      Gives me America June 2020 vibes personally

  • @nicolasquijano5471
    @nicolasquijano5471 3 дня назад

    Thank you TLDR!

  • @hostishumanigeneris4472
    @hostishumanigeneris4472 4 года назад +2

    Please keep rioting so this can escalate.

  • @SylviaRustyFae
    @SylviaRustyFae 4 года назад +4

    As a gay; It is very much worth pointing out the similarities between and comparing Stonewall and the current BLM movement.
    Cause if ya compare them youll notice that a lot of the non-LGBTQ+ people that were there were Black Panthers and other black people and other minorities.
    Minorities have to stick together and be allies to each other and it is worth remembering that every time any of ours have affected real change it has come thru minorities putting their other fights for rights off for a while to demand the rights of another minority in a time when we can all come together behind that singular fight. And with enough of us banding together the majority cishet and not poor white people eventually hear us and cause our cause is just; they come out to support all of us.
    But none of us have gotten the support of that majority without first banding together with other minorities; and oftentimes we have to fight their fights first. But the thing is, every fight is our fight, bcuz every fight brings us closer to winning this war. And this war can be won, but only by all of us coming together and proving that we are truly strongest together.

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae 4 года назад

      The bribes werent meant to stop.the raids. They were meant to allow them some warning before they happen. The raid that led to stonewall was given no warning.

    • @SylviaRustyFae
      @SylviaRustyFae 4 года назад

      As a trans person; FUCK THE MATTACHINE SOCIETY.
      Sure, they got some things right and did some good, but GLF and the rest showed up to replace MS bcuz of how horribly wrong their beliefs were.
      The Mattachines wanted gay people to integrate into society and to toe the line and to be the model citizen; in both how they acted and how they dressed. They hated any gay person who "flaunted" their gayness and were very much against any "men" being femme in any way or the lesbians wearing pants even 9.9
      These people thought the only solution was to adapt the way of the straights. Fuck that so much.

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 4 года назад +1

      both are funded by soros, yes we all already know that, thanks.

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 4 года назад +1

      @@SylviaRustyFae "all us queers can be a gay still bcuz words are weird" - words are weird, folks! Says the person describing itself as "a genderfae nonbinary woman and a sapphic panromantic demisexual..." Yeah right! Sorry but to me describing oneself as such is no different from elon musk describing his children with the names which could be good names for his assfly spaceships...

  • @Matthew-yc6nx
    @Matthew-yc6nx 10 месяцев назад

    Nobody was killed?
    (Asking for Derrick)

  • @user-ep2sh8hi8r
    @user-ep2sh8hi8r Год назад

    It's not just a parade... If you don't know your history you are doomed to repeat it..

  • @Mysterious_Ace
    @Mysterious_Ace Месяц назад

    We still need these movements. Everyone deserves their basic human rights. And until I can hold my partners hand and express my gender w/o risk to our safety, I will not be quiet.

  • @beamking
    @beamking 4 года назад +1

    Happy Pride

  • @88888888tiago
    @88888888tiago 4 года назад +2

    Happy pride month fellow humans. It is me, the corporation. I too am gay, as you can see by my merch. I care deeply about your cause. Please, buy my merch. Also, like, comment and share this video. Subscribe to my channel. Screw other much more important causes and world problems (refugees, minorities, unemployment, climate change). We stand with you as long you give us money.

  • @VaradMahashabde
    @VaradMahashabde 4 года назад +3

    Anime people : Hand holding?! So lewd
    US at 3:39 : Totally bro

    • @Sea-zu4bj
      @Sea-zu4bj 4 года назад

      Still lewd in the right countries lol

    • @VaradMahashabde
      @VaradMahashabde 4 года назад +3

      @@pussieswillneverbeheroes6019 I am sorry sir, but I think you are completely misunderstanding my comment as being homophobic. I assure you, it is just an anime injoke

    • @axelnils
      @axelnils 4 года назад

      Winnie the Poo Flu Being disgusted by someone else’s sexuality is not natural. Many animals display homosexuality, but homophobia only exists in humans. People have to be taught to hate “the gays”, just like hating people of another race/ethnicity.

  • @Not_Beijee
    @Not_Beijee 4 года назад

    Yo

  • @cardboardbox191
    @cardboardbox191 4 года назад

    I'm confused if bars where shut down for serving gay people how come gay people could sue them when they didn't?

    • @weewooilookjustlikebuddyho2927
      @weewooilookjustlikebuddyho2927 4 года назад

      What

    • @cardboardbox191
      @cardboardbox191 4 года назад

      @@weewooilookjustlikebuddyho2927 by the sound of things they weren't allowed to serve gay people but gay people could sue them if they didn't serve them. Have I got that right because it sounds abit mad.

  • @chanm9652
    @chanm9652 4 года назад

    Trans and black people helped? Is that general sweep of black people? Or specifically black gay and/ or black trans? Not sure it is clear in the video.

    • @Ellipsis115
      @Ellipsis115 4 года назад

      I think it was a side note, you can always do further reading if you would like.

  • @GuffGuffGuffy
    @GuffGuffGuffy 4 года назад +9

    Discrimination stems from insecurity

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger 4 года назад +2

      @@pussieswillneverbeheroes6019 Because it served a purpose 10000 years ago. Step into the 21st century please.

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 4 года назад

      @@pussieswillneverbeheroes6019 do you need to be disgusted by penicillin?

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 4 года назад +1

      "Discrimination stems from insecurity" - by the logic, our motivation in life should be to become disrespected and belittled more and more so that we can keep fighting for it to keep getting it back?! I would think hardly any straight person is insecure because unlike gay couple they can bear children for instance... So that argument is invalid.

  • @awesomelyshorticles
    @awesomelyshorticles 4 года назад +3

    I think the stonewall riots are very comparable because it was also in response to police brutality.

    • @Ellipsis115
      @Ellipsis115 4 года назад

      And yet some people are calling TLDR homophobic, like why, how does that help your cause?!?

  • @connorbredall3112
    @connorbredall3112 4 года назад +2

    There are many differences between the Stonewall riots and the riots based on George Floyd's death. The Stonewall riots happened because the rioters were people that resisted arrest as the police officers were intending to arrest them due to their sexuality due to the time period in the US being a lot less tolerant of the LGBTQ+ population. Many of the riots based on George Floyd's death were not them resisting arrested for their race, gender, sexuality, etc., but instead them rioting because George Floyd died at the hands of police. Such police are being charged for George Floyd's death. Even if they weren't charged, the riots based on George Floyd's death are not justified simply because two wrongs don't make a right. The rioters of the Stonewall riots didn't have much of a choice in the matter, so their riots were a lot more excusable. Also, a difference between the LGBTQ+ rights movement and the current Black Lives Matter movement is that the former is more justified because at the time, as you explain in this video, being LGBTQ+ was illegal, whereas the latter is less justified as discrimination based on race has been made illegal since the Civil Rights Acts of 1964.

    • @tacosmexicanstyle7846
      @tacosmexicanstyle7846 4 года назад

      Do you really think that a discrimination act actually stopped any discrimination from police?
      The entire point is that police think they’re keepers of the law and above the law, so they will do whatever they want. That hurts principally minority groups such as black people... They don’t care about some act from 1964.

    • @connorbredall3112
      @connorbredall3112 4 года назад

      @@tacosmexicanstyle7846 "Do you really think that a discrimination act actually stopped any discrimination from police?" Anyone who thinks they have been discriminated against can sue or charge an officer with a hate crime. "The entire point is that police think they’re keepers of the law and above the law, so they will do whatever they want." If they were above the law they would never be convicted of crimes where the punishment severely affected them, and I know there have been events where that happened so if you want me to provide examples, ask.

  • @Systemicyco01
    @Systemicyco01 4 года назад +1

    Being gay, the act of homosexuality was illegal in most states until 2003 when the US Supreme Court made it legal nationwide in the case Lawrence v. Texas. This case overturned Bowers v. Hardwick from 1986 which sanctioned states banning homosexual behaviour and activities.

  • @billyfox6368
    @billyfox6368 4 года назад +1

    Do you think that there's still institutionalised homophobia? Obviously, it's still present in individuals, but I'm just curious what people think; please don't infer that I'm saying that it's not there, though. Entirely, I just wonder whether people still consider there to be a bias against LGBTQ+ on a societal level.

    • @josephcannon3938
      @josephcannon3938 4 года назад +3

      @@pussieswillneverbeheroes6019 copy and pasted comment.... Maybe evolve some intelligence

    • @vania7302
      @vania7302 4 года назад +2

      @@pussieswillneverbeheroes6019 As an evolutionary researcher, let me say just because something is evolved, does not mean we shouldn't fight our biases and recognise when our primitive psychology is taking over. Rape under resource-scarce environments is also evolved but you dont' see anyone justifying it. Sexual orientation is also roughly 50% due to either genetics or in-utero development so if you want to use the natural argument, non heterosexuality is also greatly natural. Please don't use evolutionary theory and determinism to justify your disgust to LGBTQ+ people. This is why our field has such a bad reputation.

    • @saltypork101
      @saltypork101 4 года назад

      @@pussieswillneverbeheroes6019 Reported as spam.

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly 4 года назад

      Damn right there is!

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly 4 года назад

      Winnie the Poo Flu yup I’m disgusted by you because of your decaying brain

  • @bojomay2952
    @bojomay2952 4 года назад +15

    I actually loved this video even though I am straight. The LGBT community has gone through so much!

    • @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial
      @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial 4 года назад +1

      LOL i found you

    • @Sea-zu4bj
      @Sea-zu4bj 4 года назад +2

      Winnie the Poo Flu it’s normal they will claim superiority later. Any opinions against them backed by any ounce of reason is blocked

    • @LadyDoomsinger
      @LadyDoomsinger 4 года назад +10

      ​@@pussieswillneverbeheroes6019 First, we wanted to not be arrested for our sexual preference or identity, then we wanted to be allowed to marry like any other couple, and to be referred to by the pronoun with which we self-identify, and now we want to teach the young generations that tolerance is a good thing.
      Oh, the horror we impose on straight people.

    • @tomasroma2333
      @tomasroma2333 4 года назад +4

      Winnie the Poo Flu control of the language! 😂 That’s right. The gays control the dictionary.

    • @jackjack3344
      @jackjack3344 4 года назад +3

      Sea there are no opinions against us that are backed by reason because homophobia is totally unreasonable. There is literally no single argument against the LGBTQ+ community that can be described as ‘reasonable’

  • @richardthompson7779
    @richardthompson7779 4 года назад

    Isnt it about time you focused on the clear direction of the Uk towards herd immunity and screw the number of consequent deaths? How about a travel restriction comparison between countries ? How about some aspect of comparison of politlcal position vs impact of COVID ? Seems like right wing populists cannot cope with their ego not being in complete control of the country, so we have the recklessness of the USA, Brazil and the UK. There is more to be done in depth.

    • @bingbong7912
      @bingbong7912 4 года назад +1

      Is this a bot or what? Go comment this on a related video not one about pride

  • @danielsteinberg7416
    @danielsteinberg7416 4 года назад

    What's about US space race breakthrough happened nearly the same time?

    • @fionafiona1146
      @fionafiona1146 4 года назад +3

      What about soviet gender equality milestones? That's not currently the topic and might eventually fit into some other video.

  • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
    @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts 3 года назад

    More political violence.

  • @jennyj0007
    @jennyj0007 4 года назад +1

    This was an informative video. It looks like there was police brutality there too. None one is safe from those fascists.

  • @AZ-74
    @AZ-74 4 года назад +1

    Not recent news and already knew this from watching a similar video years ago

    • @ReecePudding
      @ReecePudding 3 года назад

      What did you expect from reading the title of the video?

  • @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial
    @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial 4 года назад +1

    I don't like how the word ''Gay'' is being used. back then Gay used to be called happy. now it's being used for a homosexual term please tell me how did it changed?
    please note that this comment is not in any attake agianst the LGBT+ community i'm just curious.

    • @DanielJohnNicholson
      @DanielJohnNicholson 4 года назад +2

      I would say that it started to be used as a slur against homosexuals so it kinda got owned as a show of pride. It's the same situation with queer, which used to (and still does) mean something unusual or strange.

    • @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial
      @FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial 4 года назад

      @@DanielJohnNicholson was homosexuality popular in the 1920s-30s?

    • @0xCAFEF00D
      @0xCAFEF00D 4 года назад +1

      @@FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial Homosexuality is ancient and is not something people choose. It's not really accurate to consider it popular or not unless there's some underlying cause you can identify that waxes and wains. It's just about how much of it is expressed.
      And that's probably where gay comes from if I had to guess (not an expert, like you). A description of effeminate or happy/gay men. The presentation of gayness some have. You have to remember that it wasn't always alright to be rude in general. Cursing publicly was for very low class people. Could also have something to do with libel laws. I don't remember the phrase but there's something media can't say about people because it implies they're drunk when it was originally used to avoid lawsuits. You can easily imagine how calling someone homosexual VS gay would have same protective effect.

    • @Diovanlestat
      @Diovanlestat 4 года назад +1

      @@FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial Yes of course. Pick up a copy of "Berlin Stories" which produced the musical "Cabaret" or go even earlier and find an biography on Oscar Wilde, (19th century) which will always contain rich descriptions of the underground homosexual scene. I don't know about the USA because of its purtain nature , but there is so much recordeded gay history in the UK and Europe. Look at the writings of John Wilmot (2nd Earl of Rochester) from the 17th century, or find information on the a Cambridge Five of the UK 1930's. The history of gay people and the hidden societies they were forced to create is fascinating and often produces moments of creativity and art. Like the "War on Drugs" now, governments ban and people ignore, you just have to know where to look.

    • @paranoid97_
      @paranoid97_ 4 года назад

      @@FreedomLovingLoyalistOfficial well, it did exist. Ancient Rome and Greece famously had a lot of homosexuality, and they were thousands of years ago.

  • @86Corvus
    @86Corvus 4 года назад +2

    when you protest and police is beating you - you are winning.
    when you riot, loot and police is still leanient with you - you are loosing.

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 4 года назад

      Quote by Martin Looter King?

  • @ryanhenderson3446
    @ryanhenderson3446 4 года назад +3

    Marsha want trans he was a gay transvestite he never said he was transgender.
    He said he was a gay man

  • @necromanticer169
    @necromanticer169 4 года назад +3

    Marsha was a gay man. Why are you calling him a transwoman? He called himself 'he'. Drag doesn't make you trans... this is really gross.

    • @Ellipsis115
      @Ellipsis115 4 года назад

      I think TLDR made a mistake, calling it gross is unfair, just point it out, like "to my knowledge he refered to himself as "he"" I don't think anymore is nessesary. Thats a small detail and isn't significant to the overall, story? I guess.

    • @paranoid97_
      @paranoid97_ 4 года назад

      @@Ellipsis115 I maybe reading a little too far in to the original comment, but it is a thing that many transphobes use "transwoman" (a noun) rather than "trans woman" (an adjective). And coupled with the content of the original comment, I think it's safe to say they're pretty transphobic.

    • @tacosmexicanstyle7846
      @tacosmexicanstyle7846 4 года назад

      Our concept of gender and sexuality has advanced so far that we can describe things in the past that weren’t necessarily called that way at the time; Marsha’s expression was non-binary, they would probably identify as at least ‘gender non-conforming’ if not a trans woman if they were alive today. Marsha using he/him pronouns is literally irrelevant because doing anything else at the time was illegal; people wouldn’t risk changing their pronouns. Drag doesn’t make you trans but everything else that we know about Marsha tells us that they (or she) was not a gay man. I feel like you don’t know shit about what you’re on about lol, you got it so laughably wrong...

    • @necromanticer169
      @necromanticer169 4 года назад

      @@tacosmexicanstyle7846 I'm intrigued. I don't agree that history shows he was not a gay man. What makes you so certain of the contrary?

  • @MasterWhimp
    @MasterWhimp 4 года назад +3

    Interesting to see TLDR 'like' comments, forfeiting their impartiality. Seems like they have some skin in this game. Pleasantly surprised.

    • @MasterWhimp
      @MasterWhimp 4 года назад

      @@bracco23 you protend as if every man wants an equal society.

    • @brunovilela3619
      @brunovilela3619 4 года назад

      master wimp 4 sure

    • @Cunnysmythe
      @Cunnysmythe 4 года назад

      They've liked pro remain comments too and Jack has made a few statements about being gay and why he sees Pride as still being important

    • @Ellipsis115
      @Ellipsis115 4 года назад

      I don't think supporting gay peoples human rights is forfeiting impartiality. But yeah, it's nice to see they have the stones to lose subs but also they could've gone the path of more subtly bringing homophones over to our side.

    • @tacosmexicanstyle7846
      @tacosmexicanstyle7846 4 года назад +1

      Cunnysmythe
      I don’t think any educated individual who matters is out here arguing that pride is not important or that equality is bad, though. Jack being part of a community also means that he can report first hand experience on what is or isn’t the thing in that community, too. A lot of news reporting isn’t all that factual but rather human and perspective driven.

  • @roeldejong9297
    @roeldejong9297 4 года назад +9

    279th! almost first!

  • @balayanr
    @balayanr 4 года назад

    ftp

  • @comparethequeercat
    @comparethequeercat 4 года назад +4

    Despite what some people are saying, not all of the dislikes are from homophobes, a decent amount are from gay people, like myself, who disagree with the comparison between stonewall and the riots currently occurring, stonewall didn't ruin peoples lives, stonewall didn't involve arson, its borderline homophobic to make this sort of comparison

    • @transon6655
      @transon6655 4 года назад +2

      yes

    • @tacticalidiots2340
      @tacticalidiots2340 4 года назад

      I haven't watched the entire video but aren't they making this because it's pride month?

    • @TLDRnews
      @TLDRnews  4 года назад +4

      Noone is making a comparison between the two. In the first 20 seconds this is something that I clarify, it's just interesting to see how protests and riots impact civil rights - Jack

    • @awesomelyshorticles
      @awesomelyshorticles 4 года назад +1

      As a gay person, im not so sure you can really make a distinction. Who can really say what actions will emerge from a forceful resistance against oppression? Given enough time and force, im sure the same wouldve happened at stonewall.
      Besides, i think what is more comparable is what came after: national attention (at least within the queer community) that led to local organizations and stronger activism.

    • @comparethequeercat
      @comparethequeercat 4 года назад +2

      @@TLDRnews Really? Considering how quickly you upload regarding current events, this was absolutely made in the last week and was probably either a sort of comment on the riots or cashing in on them

  • @nomsey10
    @nomsey10 4 года назад +3

    Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

    • @fabdi8559
      @fabdi8559 4 года назад

      Your opinion is not important

    • @eksortso
      @eksortso 4 года назад +2

      I feel sorry for Christian and other religious LGBT folks who have to put up with jagoffs like this within their congregations.

    • @paranoid97_
      @paranoid97_ 4 года назад

      Ah but do you know that for sure?

    • @nomsey10
      @nomsey10 4 года назад +1

      @@paranoid97_ yes please look at your mother and father, is one male and the other female ? Since the human race began its been male and female why change now? it also goes against science and evolution if you believe in that.

    • @tacosmexicanstyle7846
      @tacosmexicanstyle7846 4 года назад

      Nomzey Ali
      Your religion comes from Ancient Greece, Ancient Rome and Paganism... all of which emphasised sexual relationships among and between men, women and others in ways that religion says are wrong. That includes homosexuality, polyamory, everything you hate.
      Since the beginning of time’ ahahhahahahahahahahaha fuck that.
      What a sad life you live in if you think that the goal of human existence and human relationships is to procreate.

  • @TheBigThinker944
    @TheBigThinker944 4 года назад +1

    Nothing about black people or their struggle? And they wonder why ppl out in the streets

    • @TLDRnews
      @TLDRnews  4 года назад +1

      I'm not sure you watched the whole video... as we explicitly call out the fight of black activists during the video - Jack

  • @TheDethBringer666
    @TheDethBringer666 4 года назад

    sounds less like a n educational video and more like a hostage one lol

  • @Cunnysmythe
    @Cunnysmythe 4 года назад

    This felt like hijacking someone else's political cause to push your own
    If you're planning to cover both issues you should have covered the other one first

    • @Ellipsis115
      @Ellipsis115 4 года назад +2

      How is this hijacking? Whats their cause? The only criticism I could make is this is them running out of ideas.

    • @Cunnysmythe
      @Cunnysmythe 4 года назад

      @@Ellipsis115 @ Piggybacking off of social disorder stemming from racism to push LGBT issues, which is the primary political cause you see this channel promote
      It's tonedeaf and opportunistic
      They deleted my original comment while I was editing it so it must have something to it

    • @Ellipsis115
      @Ellipsis115 4 года назад +1

      @@Cunnysmythe Sorry to burst your bubble but fighting for people equal rights isn't an agenda it's very widely accepted.

    • @Alex-fv2qs
      @Alex-fv2qs 4 года назад +1

      Dude, it's literally Pride Month

    • @Cunnysmythe
      @Cunnysmythe 4 года назад

      @@Ellipsis115 You've ignored the substance of what I've said to trumpet "Good things are good, bigot" and not to engage with what I've actually said, at no point did I suggest that LGBT were issues unpopular or shouldn't be promoted.

  • @Jigachader
    @Jigachader 4 года назад +3

    i didnt know tldr supported the crazed lgbtqs :/

  • @nathan-iz2bq
    @nathan-iz2bq 4 года назад +3

    I'm all for LGBT rights and i have no problem with LGBT people, but do they really need a month? Why do soldiers only have a day?
    Edit: before you tell me may for for remembering soldiers, that's only in the USA it's got global

    • @xhshdd7113
      @xhshdd7113 4 года назад +1

      It's may, the month you're looking for is may, maybe if you cared about the military as much as you did trying to tear down LGBT+ people, and I'd guess other minorities you'd know that

    • @DanielJohnNicholson
      @DanielJohnNicholson 4 года назад +3

      It's a month during which a Pride parade in your area may take place. It's not a whole month of continuous Pride celebrations. In fact, having a singular day for all Pride parades would be better imo so we don't have massive corporations taking advantage of us LGBTQ+ folk for a whole month.

    • @nathan-iz2bq
      @nathan-iz2bq 4 года назад

      @@xhshdd7113 okay, calm down. 1. May is only for the USA, it's not global. Reminds me how self contained Americans are. and 2. I am not a trump supporter I do not have minorities or LGBT people

    • @CashelOConnolly
      @CashelOConnolly 4 года назад +2

      nathan ormiston if people want a month of remembrance there’s nothing stopping them

    • @paranoid97_
      @paranoid97_ 4 года назад

      @@pussieswillneverbeheroes6019 Go away homophobe.

  • @86Corvus
    @86Corvus 4 года назад +1

    So you have equality under the law, marriage has been granted, time to end the movement? Oh wait its too profitable.

    • @TLDRnews
      @TLDRnews  4 года назад +24

      Probably also the fact that only about 20% of countries offer those rights and that of those who don't some still imprison or kill those found 'guilty' of being LGBTQ+. Or maybe to defend the thousands of LGBTQ+ harassed every day in every country (especially trans people). Or maybe the fact that LGBTQ+ children are significantly more likely (around 4x) to find themselves homeless after being kicked out by their parents.
      The idea that everything's sorted is (unfortunately) a total delusion - Jack

    • @DanielJohnNicholson
      @DanielJohnNicholson 4 года назад +6

      I know people, especially those who identify as trans or non-binary, who have been kicked out by their parents because of who they are. The delusion that we have full equality is total bs, especially outside Western Europe and the Americas.

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 4 года назад

      @@TLDRnews why then isn't there such a movement in Saudi Arabia for instance (or any other country where it's needed), but it's overpresent in America and Europe (where it's no longer needed)? Doesn't make any sense to me...

    • @Albimar17
      @Albimar17 3 года назад

      @Michael Arnold if I belonged to lgbtpqia+ community and it infringed on what I did in *private space* as any sexual activity should be had regardless of our sexuality? YES.

  • @stephensodyssey7423
    @stephensodyssey7423 4 года назад +2

    Shame on those who are selfishly making this about their own politics. This is about George Floyd.

    • @TLDRnews
      @TLDRnews  4 года назад +21

      I'm not sure if you're implying that's what we're trying to do, but if you were please let me make clear that's not our intention. As I said in the intro we've already made a video on the Floyd protests and were releasing another later today. This video is intended to give historic context to the riots, to discuss another civil rights story, explaining how riots have historically been used as a way to find progress. It's not intended to take away from any other movement or sweep away anyone else's pain, instead we wanted to provide a beacon of hope for where this could lead - Jack

    • @stephensodyssey7423
      @stephensodyssey7423 4 года назад +3

      TLDR News Oh no! I’m expressing how I feel about the various *insert cause here* riots.
      We all have a right to feel upset about what happened. Respectfully, this is not about my politics.
      I do feel rage towards a particular individual- not a particular race, and not a particular profession. This seems reasonable and appropriate.

    • @bennett2874
      @bennett2874 4 года назад +4

      Stephens Odyssey It is politics? Police brutality and issues is such a neglected issue and the way the system works in america where it keeps the poor in a loop hole

    • @Diovanlestat
      @Diovanlestat 4 года назад

      @Rampart A cat fell out if the tree at the junction of chipping Norton, why didn't you save it rampart? My mother died due to state negligence, where was you Rampart, why didn't you protest, why didn't you save yer life.? The police beat me up, hid me from my family, then left me vunerable with no way to get home. WHERE THE HELL WAS YOU RAMPART? Don't you care about my suffering , why aren't you protesting for me?

    • @stephensodyssey7423
      @stephensodyssey7423 4 года назад

      Shadow man Is it politics? No, I’d say it isn’t. So why are people making it into an “insert cause here” protest? It’s gay rights? it’s anti-trump?twats.