What are Labour’s Brexit Plans?
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Many of us think that Brexit is a done and dusted thing - but it seems that Starmer is keen to continue working on it. So, in this video, we're taking a look at what the Labour Party wants to do with the EU, and whether they are likely to achieve this.
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'Brexit Plan' is now an oxymoron at this point
🤣🤣😂
I think it always has been.
No.
Scottish independence, apply for membership, negotiate, probably join.
@@julianshepherd2038The Scottish are in a perpetual state of Stockholm Syndrome by now. No REAL movement for independence.
@@julianshepherd2038as an American I don’t understand why anyone would join a flaming bag of dog sht.
Decades of debate and we're back to square one 😂
Not really. It’s just a bunch of sore losers that can’t let it go.
@@gameofender4463twat found 😂
I watched a talkshow talking about politics exactly 10 years ago the other day... they were talking about exactly the same issues as we are still talking about now. We never left square one.
@@adam7802remoaners still cannot accept the result of the referendum.
@@adam7802Wrong we are now in square −1 .
The short answer is no.
The nuanced answer is they will likely work on more alignment with the EU to facilitate trade, investment, and travel.
The EU would be dumb to agree to that
@@olivero.1877 why?
@@regarded9702 giving out perks of the EU without membership... It has a disintegrating effect on Europe.
Norway and Switzerland are not members for this reason, they already have all the benefits so they didn't have to join. This was a mistake. And it gives the wrong idea for others too that they can pick and choose. The EU should be strict: common market and all benefits are just for members only.
Good answer but rejoining is politically impossible wouldn’t it be good for the eu to at least get the economic benefits by reintroducing single market customs union.
Britain will have to PAY though the nose for that, like Norway does. Except they have massive amounts of natural resources (which they have properly managed) to fund it.
The UK will never get their pre-Brexit deal they had with the predecessor of the EU.
UK doesn't want good deals we want low quality bad deals
The only deal acceptable by the EU is to become a full-member of the EU immediately so Euro, Shengen and common defence by the get-go
@@ribbon8677 Plenty of countries who join the EU, even new members, don't instantly adopt the Euro or join the Euro zone. And it wouldn't be expected of the UK to do so, considering they have a very strong currency.
Thank god. Citizens don’t need filthy privileges. What we need is our rights.
@@ribbon8677 EURO as a condition of memebrship would kill any attempt at rejoining. Most likely clause would be a no going back policy, you can't leave again and no special treatment. We're a shit show right now but they do need us as well, our econmy is still big.
I'd welcome more collaberation on defence though.
4:44 Give the editor a god damn raise :D
agreed
Would have been nice if keir starmer was replaced by the player character.
@@TripleAAA787 Would kinda fit, Steve is mostly mute as well
I don't know why seeing the Minecraft icons made me giggle but they did. Great job editor!
Where
@@Early2000sPs2games 4:48
@@Early2000sPs2games 4:43
0:40 TLDR "we are going to evaluate exactly what Labour would do"
6:23 TLDR "in summary, dunno"
Slow news day?
Moreso Labour flip flopping on everything and not seeming to have any real things they stand for.
@@Hanloss no arguments here, but it's more why report on something you can't report on?
@@SaintGerbilUKbecause you can tell people on what you know about the topic at least, even if it’s minuscule. 😒
@@OzonialLayeringDoes it take 8 minutes to say "dunno"?
For a channel called tldr, it’s sure padded out
It is not up to the parties of the UK if 'rejoining the EU' or 'reversing Brexit' would be possible.
What any party might do is applying for membership to the EU, nothing more.
Guess who is going to draw the shorter straw ....
The language is important. I always say the UK might one day apply to join. We have a lot to do before we can think about doing that, but it's a valid question for us in the UK. Do we really want it? At this point, too few want it badly enough.
@@Purple_flower09 Agreed. Painting becoming an EU member again being relative easy and in bright colours isn't helpful.
@@teotik8071i mean the EU wants a country like the UK, let’s be honest 😅
They would have to apply, but if they wanted it would probably not be difficult to get there as the UK has previously met the criteria for being an EU member state. It just would not be the same arrangement as pre-2016 with various special exemptions
@@krombopulos_michael The UK never met the requirements, but got waivers.
The Criteria have changed.
The UK is not fit to apply for membership.
The EU is under no obligation to share British delusions.
Aren't you making an unjustified assumption that the EU actually wants the UK back on favourable terms?
Actually, the EU does want UK back on favorable terms. Eventually.
Of course, “favorable” means “favorable to those who want UK to thrive as a successful long term member of a fully integrated Europe”, not “favorable to those who want to stall the integration process and reap short term financial rewards for themselves”.
@@paologatNo my friend, you are naive. This is geopolitics.
There is no friendship or mercy .
@@paologateverything you described is literally what Brexit was...
Exchanging a beautiful integration and unified markets for short term gains from financial oligarchs and Russian oil money
@@paologatno it doesn’t.
If they take us back in (hope they don’t) they will go back to removing our rights and demanding more money.
Some people don’t remember that we were put in WITHOUT A VOTE AND AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
I was educated on the British political system growing up.
And the politicians have been selling the UK down the road for about 60+ years now.
Imagine if we hadn’t sold off all our rights, where we would be?
This isn’t a leaver issue… it’s a HORRIBLE political elite system.
@@ogerpinata1703 the core strategic goal of the EU is a peaceful, unified Europe. This includes UK. Of course, it can’t include an entitled and xenophobic version of UK, and the EU won’t do anything to encourage such entitlement again.
I'm afraid that they have cooked their biscuit. The EU will not enter into piecemeal agreements with the UK. Switzerland has burnt EU fingers on doing that, and the UK compounded it. No more free lunches, you are either in or out and that will require the British population totally behind it.
Nope.
You talk like the EU is stable and thriving, when the reality is that it’s collapsing. Most of Europe is waking up to this and looking elsewhere for economic stability…
@@cooldad7297 Hey look a unicorn!
@@cooldad7297 indeed, they are looking at the UK, such a model !! 🤣🤣🤣
@@philipwittamore The UK is also a mess which is why whether the UK rejoins or not will make absolutely no difference to the fate of the EU.
There's a Brexit plan? That's news to me
Same here, unless the "plan" is just a fancy name for something the politicians scrawled on the back of a beer mat in the pub after a few too many gin and tonics
Think it was to do as badly as posable so that public want re-join. Then we can be show off as the example to the others why not to leave.
There's a reason their still talking about making a plan....
The plan is do nothing and become exponentially poorer
Yeah the lefty’s have made it extremely hard to make any decisions ever
Western Balkans, Ukraine and Moldova should be a priority. Countries where 80% of the people support the EU membership. Not the UK. They got waaaay more natural resources than UK anyways.
Incorporating those countries in the EU right now would be disastrous.. we dont need more member states before tackling some of the EUs issues, especially not ones that are very poor as well
LOL. That’s a good one. You might want to do a comparison of GDP, previous contributions, army size, etc etc
@@sn4831 EU needs warm coastlines and huge forests and huge electricity producers, etc. None of it in the UK. There's a HUGE electricity production in the Ukraine and western Balkans. Plus UK is in a recession while the EU candidates grow by like 4%- 6% every single year. No country with 50:50 support for the EU should EVER again be let in. And UK showed that it's not EVEN that. But 48:52.
@@Instrumentalll EVERY SINGLE of these countries are richer than new EU members were in 2004 or 2007 or 2013. And some by a LOT.
Support the reunification of Moldova with Romania and we can agree on that. Ukraine joining will simply lead to Russia chipping away at the E U the same way Romania chipped away at the Austrian Empire in order to take back Transylvania. Also UA is not winning against RU, so don't hold your breath for a pro-EU UA.
Did anyone read the Leave Agreement and conditions to even candidate the UK to the EU now? Or even considered the willingness of the EU to accept said candidature? Guess not.
The UK, Germany and France where the major financial backers of the EU. Without these it struggles to pay the bills.
Of British? Would surprise me, that is why the Groundhog squad exists...to remind them until they finally get it.
@@RealMash In the changes of the world, their thickness persists.
Next moment now is over.
I believe that after Britain left the EU had the locks changed.
As much as I'm all for a single Europe, this isn't the right time for the UK to rejoin even if the public was fully on board. Without getting rid of the Veto and reforming the core institutions, expanding can only hurt the EU, especially in the case of a volatile member that left the block less than a decade ago...
Based
Getting rid of the veto power would pretty much turn the EU into a dictatorship, where the interests of the core wealthy nation would override the interests of the less wealthy nations. The veto power should remain for key domains, such as fiscal policy, foreign affairs and a few others.
The only reform the EU needs to go through is a decentralization effort, with more power to the member states than to Brussels.
@Kalimdor199Menegroth Your last point is antithetical to what the EU wants to be. It _is_ an 'ever-closer Union'. Transferring continuously more power to the EU _is_ the point; and it is also the main advantage of the EU, necessitating that no European country can just go off and do their own, very harmful thing - but also, common law and regulation allows for a largely transparent market force facilitating trade like nowhere else over so many country's borders.
In the other hand, it is a democratic institution. Thereby, it _should_ follow democratic principles largely. The more pressing issue is actually that the smaller states hold the EU hostage with the Veto. The Veto should be gone - as it stands, the EU cannot hope to continue, because as soon as one state falls into dictatorship, the EU has no recourse, since it cannot kick members. The smaller states get plenty of benefits through EU membership, and they are even overrepresented in the EU parliament. If the Veto being gone would be such a huge Deal for them - they should, indeed, leave the EU. The institution, if it wants to work long-term, needs commitment to it. That means options for the EU to protect itself, like a vote to kick members, which fundamentally necessitates getting rid of the Veto.
@@lVideoWatcherl What the EU wants to be does not matter. What matters is what the nations comprising the EU want it to be. I do not want more power to be transferred to a far away kleptocracy. We used to have this back in Soviet times when Moscow was our Brussels. We don't want them. Power should be closer to the citizen, not farther away. Otherwise we got back to the imperial period.
All nations within the EU should have the power to do what they want and their interests need to be preserved, and not discarded. If the EU wants to retain a semblance of democracy, then the veto power must remain.
EU is not a democratic institution. It presents an illusion of democracy because the EP is elected, but the EC is named and holds the real power. The only time when the EP has more power than the EC, is when the EC is named, based on the EP majority post-elections and that's it. We Eastern Europeans compare this system with the Supreme Soviet-Politburo system, which was very similar. The Supreme Soviet was only more powerful than the Politburo only when they were naming the members of the Politburo. After that, any resolution taken by the Supreme Soviet had to be approved by the Politburo to be anything more than a recommendation. Which is exactly the system that the EU has.
"The more pressing issue is actually that the smaller states hold the EU hostage with the Veto."
And they have the right to do so if their needs and interests are not addressed. In international relations, there is no democracy per se, so veto power must be a prerogative for any sort of good relations between nations. The veto should stay, and actually be expanded to include more domains. For example, nations that do not want to be forced into adopting LGBTQ+ ideology should be allowed to veto. Nations that do not want to engage in climate alarmist policies and assassinate their economies, should be allowed to veto.
I am not worried about states falling into a dictatorship, because the abolition of veto power will turn the EU into a dictatorship. The veto power is the only leverage smaller and medium sized nations within the EU to counter the Franco-German interests. If this is done away with, these countries can just buy off votes through lobby power and crush any dissent or opposing view, ensuring the creation of a new continental dictatorship. The Fourth Reich basically. We do not want that.
If the EU can only function by transforming itself into a dictatorship, then we shall work hard to destroy it from its foundation. If it cannot be reformed, then it must be destroyed. Which is why we vote the far-right overwhelmingly and anti-establishment parties. The EU has crossed a few red lines, and is turning into a illegitimate superstate. Which is not what was envisioned by the founding fathers, nor what was promised to the nations before they joined. We did not vote to join a new Soviet Union. I would never trust a German, an Irish, or a Portuguese to tell me how to govern my country, what values should I uphold and what is good for me. And I think you would not accept either.
The EU isn’t a democracy.
It’s full of unelected officials…
So why would they dilute their power?
They wouldn’t… EU parliament is about increasing wealth for the wealthy.
As much as I wish it were different, normalising UK/EU regulations are pretty much all we can really expect in the next government. To my mind the 'outright rejection' of the proposed 'youth mobility scheme' is a mistake but then again, so was Brexit. Unfortunately it seems that Starmer and the rest of the Labour leadership are living in fear of the Brexit supporting sections of the press. Personally, I would conclude that there would never be any hope for them to ever be on-side with a Labour campaign as a Labour government works directly against their own personal interests.
Forget joining for the next 20 years at least.
Labour are being smart, they've learnt from 2019. Many here haven't.
I'd say they're more concerned that a notable portion of swinging voters and would be labour voters in the north would be very much against rejoining, rather than being afraid of the right leaning press. The whole reason why the referendum result came as such a shock was that most politicians and the press (especially David Cameron) misjudged it to be a minority within the Conservative base voters that were in favour of leaving, but it turned out there was a sizable portion of the labour base that wanted to leave as well.
@@zaleost still folk act like it was just a racist knee jerk reaction. i voted for brexit because im sick of paying for 2 tiers of incompetent governance to then pay for numerous more layers of jobs for nothing in the eu, we spend far too much on politics and non job cushy homes for useless people who would be sacked within a week in the private sector. brexit was the only way for me to register my disgust with how things are and how they are heading and i still dont regret it. having the most incompetent tory gov's the nation has ever seen for the last decade however has made sure any benefits we could have made from the breakaway are a pipedream and here we are now.
@@imperator708 it was always a pipe dream
Labour under Starmer doesn't have any plan beyond, "Get power and cling to it."
Better than previous labour leaders that didn't understand that nothing else matter than power. If you don't have it you can't do shit
As opposed to 14 years of conservative party , who did what to whom.
They should but they won't. They'll try to work the EU but the EU has no incentive to make leaving the EU look like a good idea. If the UK wants to be rescued it should rejoin. The UK thinks it's a 50-50 relationship when the economy makes out to a 85-15 relationship.
The Germans will make it a 08-15 relationship...
@@tillposer I think it's sad that Britain still suffers from an inferiority complex when it comes to Germany, I hope you feel better soon... 😂😂😂
Idk man a country leaving the EU and then trying to rejoin as soon as possible seems like good PR to me.
The EU has zero incentive to trust Starmer and his jolly band of unprincipled fence sitters.
@@venmis137 You consider the message: "leave if you want because you can always come back when it doesn't work out and we'll pretend it never happened" to be good PR?
Zero chance in the next term. Unlikely in the next ten years. Even odds in the next twenty years.
The truth is we don't know but if the don't the UK has had it.
We’ve already had it if you ask me. We’re less relevant than than any of our European counterparts now.
I don't see the UK returning in my lifetime. Also why would you want a half hearted member like last time only to want to leave again when the political tides shift? Definition of insanity.
Unlikely in the next 10 years yes, but I think quite likely in the next 20 years. Might be something they aim to do on a second term if they are doing well perhaps so some change to have it done after 10 years..?
UK needs to meet the Copenhagen criteria first. This will require deep constitutional reforms, which in turn will require a strong mandate (not 52%, not 55% - rather something close to 75%). This will take much more than a decade.
After which, accession negotiations can start. These typically take a couple of decades.
I estimate full Breturn by the late 2060s.
It's quite obvious but still bears repeating, it seems: *applying* for EU membership is indeed in the UK's hands The application to be *granted* however is in the hands of *all* EU member states, *individually* . The UK can *ask* to be allowed back in, if and when it meets the criteria which it currently doesn't by a long way. Brexit isn't a topic in the EU anymore: EU countries adapted to the situation and moved on. Some even benefitted business-wise from Brexit. The only country still *struggling to adapt* to Brexit is the UK itself. It's also the only country still *talking* about Brexit.
but the "honorable representatives" convincing the public to vote for Brexit told them that the UK holds all the cards, and that the EU is lost without the UK.
so the EU must be prepared to offer the universe to the UK in return for scraps, right? right?
but for real how Brits ever believed that they held more power than 27 other countries is beyond me.
Groundhog Day 😂.
PS did you notice? Yet another entire video about what les rosbifs want ..... not a single thought on whether we in the EU are merely willing to 'renegotiate'.
You and I know: the 🇪🇺 bloody will not reopen neither the WA nor the TCA.
@@EllieD.Violetwell, if the Brits graciously want to give us even better terms, as they did with Australia, who are we to refuse?
@@paologat We already have better terms. They control Aussie imports, but still will only do minimum checks on goods from the EU. They announced it last week 🤣.
We 🇪🇺 had them 🇬🇧 over a barrel in negotiations, we continue to run rings around them.
"[The UK] is also the only country still talking about Brexit"
RUclips doesn't seem to reflect that. At all. Even the comments on this video.
Why on earth should the EU fulfill any of Starmer's promises to self?
He owns Brexit as much as Sunak/Truss/Johnson/May. He is pretty clear about that himself. Even voted to invoke article 50. The real question is: Is Starmer a trustworthy partner to negotiate with for the EU and the answer is no.
I mean, how open will the EU be to reintegration with Britain, really? The UK has proven to be a bad, unreliable partner. Any deal negotiated with a competent government that somehow got into power could be shredded when the Tories get back in again. Europe needs a good couple decades to forget how bad it is being in a relationship with Britain.
What motivation does the EU have to renegotiate Brexit? If they needed anything they would of negotiated for it earlier. How Brexit went actually eliminated many of its problems. Returning to the table will only serve the UK. In your next video give clear benefits for the EU.
The USA won’t be signing any major trade deals soon. What leverage does the UK have? What do they have to offer that is both unique and compelling?
It would be a net contributor. That’s about it.
The EU has zero motivation for that and a big foul aftertaste of having to deal with the UK. Having the UK as a de facto ruletaking satellite without a voice is just fine by the EU.
@@douglasstewart3889 The EU does okay without the UK's financial contribution. And it does even better without its permanent exceptionalistic "contribution". It now works smoother, faster and overall better, is much more agile and responsive than it has been with the UK as a member.
@@douglasstewart3889 Indeed, the UK was a net contributor. However, UK's net contribution amounts to some 2 pounds per month per EU citizen.
Indeed, we DON'T want to reopen any type of negotiation with the UK, at least in the next 10 - 20 years. Our priorities are the military cooperation, the enlargement to east and the internal reforms. Also the Switzerland and Norway agreement models will end in the medium term, in the future you are either in or out, most likely Euro included. So, you have a couple of decades to get the grip of your politics and make you minds about of what you really want.
I write this whilst sat on a vessel in the North Sea, working at a wind farm.
I have 6 days left I'm allowed to spend in the EU / Schengen area thanks to the UK now being classed as a "3rd nation", the same class as say Somalia, Congo, India etc.
Brexit has f***** my work over beyond comprehension and I'm considering a move to Germany.
Getting a visa will be a nightmare. Wish me luck.
Labour couldn't reverse a shopping trolly...
Unlike the tories xD
That's why Reform will block pretty much everything Labour tries xD.
@@Wendeta-hq2cp how? They won't win any seats?
@@craigewen7542
They will.
@@Wendeta-hq2cp hope so - but I've heard that because of where the votes are populated, while reform at up to like 16 points, they wouldn't win any seats? Not sure
You got no bloody hope.
You will never get all the members to say yes.
After the reforms and having installed QMV, you don't need all the members to say yes.
Hahaha! 😂 In that case EU is useless, but as far as I can see it’s not.
@@someoneno-one7672 your barking mad.
A d you don't won't to see that the EU is going down hill and fast.
@@markmerry1471 EU has agreed to accept most of the Central Europe. It was a much bigger problem than accepting a state that is:
- situated in Europe
- is politically European to the core
- has a set of standards not very much diverse from that of EU
Question is only in the population will. In 20 years it’s highly likely that well over 60% of U.K. citizens (even those in England in Wales) will be in favour of joining.
@@someoneno-one7672 DON'T COUNT ON IT AS THERE IS ONE OR TO MEMBERS THINKING ABOUT LEAVING
If the Labour Party said anything to indicate they might possibly look into any closer ties to the EU, then the Tory party and press would go on about "Labour would rejoin!" incessantly until the election
So they can't - but likely once in power, they will move back towards the EU
Not exactly, it'll need to be clear in their manifesto otherwise they'll be attacked and likely lose a re-election. Kier's approach is better.
This is it. Starmer has to play by the rules of the game. He's competing with a lopsided press that loves to misinform the already dim public. If he played his hand now, it would jeopardise any chance of getting into power. The people screaming loudest about him not committing to certain positions are the least likely to vote for Labour anyway.
"Tory party and press would go on about "Labour would rejoin!" incessantly until the election "
Which would win votes for Labour.
@@JohnSmall314 Optimistically yes, but too many still somehow think Brexit just needs more Brexitness, and will not vote for anyone who even suggests they would try and undo it
@@JohnSmall314 Not quite. People open to the idea of rejoining the EU are already going to be voting for Labour. If anything, Labour making their position public would only serve to alienate the hardcore Tory voters who want to give Labour a chance. The idea is to get as many ex-Tories to vote for Labour as possible and give them a landslide victory. After all, Labour's hesitation is justified given that they've lost the last three general elections.
As the UK always pointed out: defence only by NATO not the EU. Why the heck would we EUropeans let the British back in our meetings? They only report everything we say to their supreme masters in Washington DC instantly. We had that kind of situation for decades. Nope, this should be discussed on NATO level and NATO level only.
1. Strange, the FT piece from last week said exactly the opposite, ie no one wants to discuss nor do anything re: brexit. It’s the new third line of UK politics. 2. Let’s please stop discussing this topic as if the UK government or the UK electorate has any say in that. They simply don’t!
They obviously do have a say in it. They can't just decide to waltz back in like nothing happened, but if the UK genuinely wanted to rejoin the EU, they would be able to begin talks and start the application process.
Many British nationalists might overestimate how big a deal the UK is on the world stage, but the fact of the matter is that it's still one of the biggest European economies and populations and has a lot to potentially contribute to the EU.
Yep, I want my kids to have the same freedom of opportunities I had.
That’s impossible. Europe is no longer the Europe of old. If you want your kids to have a better future tell them to move out of Europe.
@@cooldad7297 north Korea then?
It's only a visa. Your kids can still do anything you did, with added beurocracy.
I'd say that added burocracy is a big issue. Everyone has there own opinion but there is no such thing as only a visa, at least as far as I am concerned, that's a very significant setback
I hope that you don't expect Starmer cs. to give you that.
4:43 Love the Minecraft elements lmao, gave me a laugh. Editor deserves a raise!!
According to your map the UK just annexed the Faroe Islands
Slowly, yes. They have been very clear and open about closer-alignment. When you poll people about returning to the EU, polls most frequently show rejoining is supported. However that is based off of actually 'rejoining' as we once were, with our own currency and position. The EU is not likely to allow that to happen and treat us like any new member, meaning we lose some of our old perks. That's when polls reject rejoining the EU. That said, those polls are also swinging closer to favourship of rejoining too. It's been just 5 years and look how far opinion has come. Give Labour 10 years of power and rejoin is going to be heavily supported and could save the party from inevitable collapse like the 2016 referendum had done for the Tories for leaving.
Doubtful. I suspect the memories of 47 wasted years are going to last a lot more than just a few years despite the brainwashing attempts of Remainders.
I think the UK could probably get a lot of it's old perks back if they re-joined. I imagine the issue would more be convincing the EU that the UK wasn't going to turn around and leave again in the next 30 years.
26th April Omnisis REFV2EURO. A condition of rejoining might be the adoption of the euro as currency.If the UK did have to adopt the euro how do you think you would vote if there was a referendum on EU membership tomorrow?
Stay out of the EU: 38%
Rejoin the EU: 38%
Even with Euro adoption as a condition of membership the polls are tied. We wouldn't even have to join the Euro until we meet the prerequisite criteria. one of which is
@@mikeish6640what, for what reason would the UK get their old perks back? Sry, but that's delusional.
Which would need to happen first would fulfilling the Copenhagen criteria (no monarchy, no fptp, no HoL, written constitution).
Then the UK would need to introduce the euro (best before the final vote if they can join or not, to ensure that they won't try to sit such a commitment out)
But the old perks? Any current EU member would demand the same or veto the UK joining.
@@Jay_Johnsonthe only reason Ireland isn't part of Schengen is the UK oO
It's more likely that Ireland will demand the UK the join Schengen even during the application process so that they can finally won't be hold back by the UK.
And yes, euro membership is necessary for new members. Honestly, I wouldn't let the UK rejoin fully until the euro is implemented - or the try-to-wiggle-out-bc-cherrypicking starts again
How can the UK be in a customs union with the EU when the trade agreement with Australia allows the UK to import hormoned beef?
We really should ditch the Australia trade deal, why would anyone in their right mind want to ship something over 10,000 miles when there's alternatives only 20 miles off the English channel.
By excluding certain goods. Just like with Turkiye.
I'm quite sure the EU won't just let the UK walz back in after putting it through years of aggravation during the separation process. During that time, the UK was either part of the EU or on special terms and thus could throw its weight around. This is not that time anymore. The UK is outside. There is very little incentive to start any sort of renegotiation process since there is little the EU would have to gain from it. Any rapprochement would have to come from the UK and it would have to make it worthwhile. And having another Orban-like spoiler coming next time the UK kippers have a bellyache is not worth it.
One should remember that a little thing like an Art.49 undertaking to join the EU just needs one veto. De Gaulle did it before, and he knew what he was doing.
Ursula said we were welcome back anytime 😂 .
At the moment we are in a Proxy War with Russia.For security and Unity we are better off in the EU .If you haven't got your freedom ...
It's not up to Kier Starmer ! It's not up to the Labour Party !
It's not up to the United Kingdom !
And never will be, that choice belongs to us in the 27 member states "All Of Us" Not You !
Crazy how people don't know the difference between brought and bought. Right at the beginning of this video "this video is bought to you by..." oh goodness
Don’t you think the EU has a say in this matter ?
Exactly, the elitist Brits think they can dictate what they want when they want. Let us discuss it in twenty years and see how things are then. If they do join they will have to join the Euro and forget all the benefits they had last time. Personally as a British person living in Belgium, I am sick of the UK and prefer they stay at arms length.
@@pauli2169 Not for you to decide though it is?
Why not? Brits had a referendum to leave the EU, why don't we get a vote on letting them rejoin?
Not just the EU, but each individual member state.
They've already stated we could rejoin.
You can not make Brexit work the same way you can not make a puncture work in a car. The UK needs to revert the brexit as much as possible. And they can call it whatever they want, but UK economy would just shrink if it doesn't rejoin the biggest trade market in the world, that happens to be a few miles from Dover
Where is the evidence for that?
The EU is now the #4 trade market in the world, it's not 1993 anymore. The UK is now dealing on favourable terms with a large chunk of the 86% of the World economy that is not in the EU and long may it be so. We did the right thing.
@@paullarne Dead right.
@@paullarnethe terms of UK deals are favorable to anyone but UK, as the very happy Australian and New Zealand farmers can attest. The same goes L, of course, for the TCA between UK and EU.
Also, as long as UK is unable to teleport the goods it needs, transportation costs will remain a huge non tariff barrier to trade between UK and any non-EU country.
@@paullarnelmao keep telling yourself that bud
It is not for a political party to change the democratic decision of the UK people.
Freedom of movement is the most important thing we need back. Scrapping that created so much heartache and so many lost opportunities.
But that's why Brexit happened. "Take back control" and such, bloody foreignerrs takeing UK jobs and such.
But that was one of the biggest reasons to leave !
No it didn't, you live in dream world joshhad
@@Baschn66nah. That was the main argument of leave campaign, but it doesn't mean that's the main reason voters wanted to terminate EU membership.
Outsiders pov: you left an elite club and now you want back in.... I think your membership fees is going to be higher.... and other members will look at you differently
Elite club of France and Germany? Which of the other members are elite?
I really don't think the EU will let the UK back in.
The problem is that pre-leaving the EU a second refereundum was always on the cards.
After leaving its not. From now on its damage limitation and rebuilding trust. And that, especially the latter, will take time.
Goodness that was a bit vague...
If the UK rejoined the EU now they would have to follow the same rules as everyone alse.
If they felt that it was unfair for them before with all the special treatment they were given, they will hate being members even more now.
Closer alignment.
Forget rejoining - i mean i wish to god we rejoin.
But support ain't there.
Labour thinking the EU will undermine their strongest asset the single market is laughable 😂😂😂
We should have a poll to prevent the EU from taking the UK back.
No return policy, keep it… 😂
Labour? Not having a clear policy position? Im shocked!.. but lets face facts, even if they did have one you couldnt trust them not to u-turn on it two hours later.
How are both main parties so terrible?
Having no policies is great and that's why i support a total monarchy so we get some more transparency with what they are doing.
@@legtendgav556
W E F.
This is the case with all parties inside the E U as well. Except Hungary and Slovakia.
Even Poland's Pro-EU grifters decided to back track on some agreements (like getting opt-outs on the i m m i g r a n t i n v a s i o n I mean "housing" sorry).
England's future interaction with the EU is wholly dependent on the EU. The English has no a say in anything. It's been eight years since the English voted to leave and still the English can't understand that.
That's not true. It's just people in these echo chambers that don't understand it.
Not just the EU: the UK public is not in favour of joining the EU either when it comes to the realities, so the whole argument is dead in the water for decades
British*
@@Jay_Johnson British refers to the "British Isles". The UK refers to the English-dominated non-democratic political unity state. England is one of four countries that make up the UK unity state. The other three being forced participants.
@@channelsixtyeight068_ Well you talk a lot of rubbish, don't you? Just waiting for the Irish peeps to come along and voice their opinions, North and South. The British Isles is a touchy term best avoided. And the Unionists are very willing participants.
If you were following current Scottish news, you would realise there's no route to another referendum for several decades, and the Welsh have never wanted to leave (there's probably more demand for dumping their assembly! 😂).
Anyway this whole debate is pointless. Sadly the Brits are a very long way from engaging sensibly with the reality of applying to rejoin, and too many EU members have done too well out of our departure to want us back. Labour will fiddle round the edges, nothing more.
No ... they have already said that .
No point in any conjecture, if Starmer laid out an exact 'pledge' there's absolutely every chance he will row back on it.
Its what he does.
Labour has the possibility to make some minute changes to the existing agreement, but it is unlikely they can do much- the EU has already stated that it does not want any changes to the existing treaty, and in any case, the UK still has not met the requirements of what it agreed to do in 2020.
Clearly the UK is an unreliable partner, and until that changes, the EU is hardly likely to grant any new privileges or major changes.
Stay on your naughty step until you've learned to be responsible, UK.
I would prefer just re-joining, however alignment and paying for access to single market so we can have FoM is good enough for now I guess
But not available. The EU is not buffet for arrogant English people
SM membership is for EU members exclusively and for EFTA members it means access as ruletaker.
There exists not one single paragraph in the EU's rulebook that would permit an irrelevant random 3rd country = the UK to join the SM. Not Nigeria, Rwana or Ecuador either.
Greetings from civilization 🇪🇺
Still love the little minecraft references scattered around haha
For any future UK government - of whatever colour - to 'reverse Brexit', the EU holds all the cards:
a) Brussels will regard any bid to rejoin as accession to the Union
b) There must be appetite in Brussels to kick off the accession process
c) There must be appetite here to have yet another referendum!!
d) Accession process takes several years, probably more than one parliament
e) Any attempt to fast-track risks pissing off any other countries aiming to join
f) Brussels can and will dictate all the terms - no special deals/ opt-outs previously granted, or some form of 'associate membership'
g) UK will be committed on areas such as social chapter/ eurozone/ ever-closer union/ full economic convergence/ freedom of movement in all categories/ supremacy of the ECJ in all but reserved matters.
Starmer might secure some 'closer cooperation' agreements in a few policy areas, but they would need to be reciprocal. I believe this is the most he can hope for to make Brexit work. He might try 'doing a Norway/ Switzerland' re single market/ customs union, but those EEA countries achieved that against a very different political backdrop.
I reckon time for another referendum is in 25/ 30 years, once we know what UK and (as importantly) the EU look like then.
I agree with everything you say except I'm not sure that it will take another 25 years to have a referendum.
It's been 8 years since the last referendum.
In 10 years it will be 18 years since the last referendum.
18 years mean that a lot of the older pro-Brexit voters will have died and been replaced by young pro-Europe voters.
Plus already so many formerly
pro-Brexit people have seen how badly it worked out and now think Brexit was a mistake so almost every place in Britain is already
majority anti-Brexit.
The only thing is that I don't know if Europe would have any interest in taking Britain back so soon and going through all the complications of approving Britain.
Would like to point out that the Faroe Islands are not part of the uk 0:30
Trying to reverse Brexit can only done by re-entering the EU, with exactly zero of the old benefits and under significantly more obligations on EU supremacy over British sovereignty. Stalmer will never be able to regain the benefits Britain once had.
Why did the EU propose a youth mobility scheme then? Why did the EU President ask young people in Britain to get the country back in the EU? Europe already has problems with Russia, China, Trump, etc. They're not just gonna keep Britain out simply out of spite. Brexit is bad for Europe.
You can make it less shit, but you can´t entirely reverse it. On the other hand, I think there is plenty the UK could do in terms of economic policy that doesn´t require joining the EU that would make substantial differences, i.e reindustrialising the North.
Well Farage and Johnson made sure of that, and now Farage ,as we knew he would is trying to con people that this isnt the Brexit he meant,even though he was fully aware there was only one Brexit on off ,the one he celerbrated the day after the idiots won.
Offer
thanks tldr
Travelled to ibiza recently
Pretty easy to do 3 planes landed same time our cases still weren't ready after passing thru passport check , noticed no different in travelling.
EU is better off without the UK. Brexit did wonders for European unity
Actually, the war in Ukraine did a lot more. Post-Brexit, European disunity was starting to reassert itself. The War in Ukraine (at least in 2022), really managed to redefine what being European meant. It even managed to bring the UK back on board.
European unity? 😂😂😂😂 Just look at all the far right parties challenging the present governments of Europe about getting out of the EU, things are changing and it's coming soon.
@@cpj93070But how many go on to change face when faced with the reality of leaving the EU? Look at France, for example, who saw what happened with the UK.
There is very little, if nothing, you can present to suggest the UK has benefited more from Brexit, than the EU has benefited from Brexit itself.
Remember, the UK is seemingly begging for EU benefits… despite no longer being a member. Why?
@cpj93070 they are not leaving though.
They are simply cutting on migration from outside the eu which the uk has failed to do so.
@@cpj93070 Which countries? Le Pen, Meloni, Salvini etc have all changed their stance from highly EU critical to let's see what we can do to improve/reform the EU. Brexiteers have never understood that most of the eurosceptiscism in other European countries, except for some negligibly poweful extremists, was directed at specific issues and not at the EU per se. Besides, if that is the case why is the euro still the second reserve currency and the second most traded currency in the world after the US dollar? International money markets do not seem to share your view of the EU's impending doom but then again the UK gutter press have been predicting it for decades with very little evidence of its actually happening..
Love how the discussion seems to be whether or not the Brits want to rejoin. But has anyone ever asked the Europeans? You’re the ones who left so f off
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Who knows what is discussed behind closed doors.
We are Europeans.
Only lefty/remoaner tards want to rejoin.
I think a Labour government will be very wary of scaring off people who voted for Brexit in the so called “red wall”, even though I believe Starmer and the rest are positive about the EU. I suspect they will quietly try to negotiate deals to bring us closer to the EU without joining the customs union or the single market, whether the EU will agree to that is another matter. Personally I believe that leaving the EU has been an economic disaster which has damaged countless businesses and cost us a fortune. I really hope that once labour has been in power and (hopefully) things are improving they start a campaign to persuade people of the benefits of getting as close to the EU as possible. I hope we will rejoin eventually, although personally I can’t see that happening until the Tories finally defenestrate the Brexiters; the EU wont allow us back until both main parties want to rejoin.
So you want EU "without" EU.
Bold to assume that EU wants them back. Things have gone much smoother since they left.
EU wants them back they hate brexit more then UK stay voters, but not for free, EU is waiting to be on there knees so they can demand more control over UK systems
@@ShadowriverUB Keep dreaming! For now, EU will do its thing in all areas blocked by GB!
The EU politicians will only be watching for a few years and at the same time they will develop new systems and make progress for the implementation of the EU vision. GB is just undesirable because she was the biggest blocker.
What GB can get once vs later is a contract with all the rights and obligations to the EU but without a say! Such a construct still needs to be developed. Furthermore, nothing will happen with the two GB chaos parties. So only with a new EU-friendly party!
Which things going "much smoother since they left"???
@@migrationsforschermitbreit6744 just about anything.
@@migrationsforschermitbreit6744 TThe UK was the biggest slowdown in the EU and responsible for a huge reform backlog. As soon as the UK was out, it was quickly done!
If the UK agreed, they wanted something from the EU in return, which is also called blackmail.
Even during MAY's BREXIT negotiations, she threatened a tough no-deal BREXIT if she didn't get sectoral agreements!
The result was that she flew straight into the wall and got nothing!!
Short answer is no, long answer is no but longer
Hope so for your own good
The EU will never agree to UK deals that replicate what they had during EU membership. Either re-apply for EU membership or accept that things are going to be more difficult. The UK cannot have it both ways.
No cherry picking.
Investment in the UK is down since brexit, certain companies have moved headquarters out of the UK, trade is down, economy damaged, jobs who trade a lot with europe have been lost. UK reputation damaged. These are all facts of brexit. Seriously, how is this better? A relationship is better for the UK. Only countries who want to see the UK (and europe/NATO) fail would want brexit.
Once again I have watched the entire video and are no closer to having an answer
Why do you still trust politicians.
Guys, I love your work and have been following you for years, but your last two videos, including this one and “Should Google Sell RUclips?“ on TLDR Business, actually say “well, I guess we'll have to wait and see because there's no way to know at this point🤠”. That's a bit weak, and may discourage viewers like me from clicking on your next videos.
100% this
Starmer knows there is no chance of returning to the Single Market, Customs Union, etc... in Labour's first or even second terms in office. So it makes no sense to even offer those options as a possibility. Probably not much can be done about improving the TCA with the EU as it is, indeed, a "very good trade deal". Probably the best FTA the EU has ever granted a 3rd country. But the CHANGE IN ATTITUDE and a commitment to remaining as aligned as possible will do EVERYTHING to start turning the ship around.
You can turn your ship around and head in whatever direction pleases you - doesn't mean you can dock in your preferred harbour 🇪🇺😎.
@@EllieD.Violet *"doesn't mean you can dock in your preferred harbour"* - No one is claiming it does. That won't stop us trying though.
@@lellyparker You can try whatever you want and waste the rest of your miserable existence doing so.
Your problem, not mine. I am where I am because I plan ahead instead of chasing unicorns.
You can just as well waste 90% of your income on buying lottery tickets and wind up in the poorhouse because your chance of winning is 1:14 million
@@EllieD.Violet Your anger is not going to stop British people fighting for a united Europe.
What can you expect when the MP's do what they want and not what the people voted for...
A Security and Defence cooperation is one thing and perfectly possible if the UK so desires, while regularly attending the EU council of Foreign Ministers is just a wet dream by some in Whitehall and not going to happen.
Are there really that many "leave" voters that are that hardlined? I'd say going for a Swiss model is the best they could hope for.
A Swiss type deal isn't available
@@frankoneill5675 They really screwed themselves by leaving.
The EU considers the Swiss pot-pourri of agreements a total nightmare and is pushing hard to consolidate it. And the Swiss are far less entitled than UK.
Not going to happen.
The EU have repeatedly stated they do not want another Swiss type agreement. It's just too much trouble to continually renegotiate every time an EU regulation changes.
As long as too many of you still mourn "the Empire" and can't cope with being just a little island there is no sense in having you back. Greetings "the Continent".
I think the difference is that, unlike the French, Belgians, Dutch and Germans, the UK still has very friendly relations with some of it's old colonies (some, but not all. Sorry India). There are still pretty close cultural and familial ties, especially to Australia and New Zealand. The Commonwealth, although not apparently politically relevant, it also a very friendly forum.
So it's not really 'mourn[ing] "the Empire"' that is the problem, so much as the UK having a lot of competing interests. Permanently severing all links between the UK, Australia and New Zealand is a bit like asking Norway and Sweden to permanently close their border again. It's doable, but it would make a lot of people upset.
That being said, the UK is also a European nation, so it is right that it should be a part of the EU, just as Serbia, Montenegro, Northern Cyprus and a unified Georgia should be too. The UK is culturally and politically closer to Western Europe (at least in terms of values), than say the USA. So there's a lot of common ground.
In short, it's complicated, and unpicking the mess is going to require a lot of soul searching in the UK.
Just a little island? There's 2 of UK which is Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) and Northern Ireland while the rest of Ireland is it's own country.
Shows what you know about the UK you spiteful troll which is not a lot.
@@solsunman383how come there's Indian people living in the UK if there's a poor relationship between the UK and India?
UK was a Trojan horse in the EU
The amazing is not asking the right question :"Would EU accept UK in Europe anymore ?". The empire is gone baby, rest of the world is not waiting for you . England is living in the dream of its glorious and bloody past.
Yes, is the answer to your question. Whilst many (understandably) bitter EU citizens would like to arbitrarily impose sanctions on the UK as a punishment for British "betrayal", EU politicians would likely strongly support and endorse the UK rejoining for a number of reasons.
Most prominently, the UK as an EU member would actually solve a number of issues. The most prominent being to act as a counter-balance between France and Germany (although the UK being a net-contributor to the European budget would be nice too). Uncertain leadership in both of these nations has led to a bit of a leadership vacuum, and a lack of direction in where the EU is developing. If the UK were in Europe, British backing to either Scholz or Macron could significantly bolster either leader's support. The UK rejoining would also be a vindication of the idea the the EU is the best viable future for all European nations . It's a good advert for new members, and a good warning for separatists.
Additionally, the UK would also add a large military component to Macron's idea of European "Strategic Autonomy", without having to actually commit additional funds. He would essentially double the size of the European navy, and it wouldn't cost him a penny. It could also serve to de-couple the UK from the USA, by increasing their commitment to Ukraine, which would also serve both Macron and the EU.
And we haven't even touched on issues of international policing, bringing the Guernsey and Gibraltar tax havens under control, freedom of movement, Stopping UK weapons sales to Israel, or lowering the price of fish in Germany. There's a lot for the EU to gain from the UK joining, if one can look past the annoyance of them leaving in the first place.
@@solsunman383 All those arguments are good. But UK has never been a support for more EU policies integration (defense, taxes, international, etc.). Who would beleive UK to complish with those goals ? I hope EU won't accept any more countries to join before changing the rules of the game for more federation.
The only hope for UK to come back in EU is extreme right wings having a majority in Europe.
Being too young to vote in the last one, I’d like my say in another referendum in the future. It shouldn’t just be that we have one referendum and never again. Scottish devolution failed the first time around, for example.
You are right. You should get your chance. Especially after what we know now!
Nothing to "renegotiate" from EU point of view. It will be a review and only about how things are being implemented, not about the content of the agreement itself.
Someone please create a TLDW of TLDR News!
An agreement to smooth agriculture and food processes is an obvious one for when the tories are gone.
Guys please, these clickbait question headlines are making you look bad
Edit: 15 minutes later and they've already changed it to something more sensible. Good shout!
Can't rejoin EU, no way will EU countries will want to lose the Brexit Benefits
which is what exactly? I'm pretty sure they'll be happy to have the UK rejoin for the following reason:
a) shows all current members how much of a failure leaving is
b) they'll get the UK back but we will get little to no exclusions like we used to
c) the UK will be a big net funder
d) its the ultimate goal of the EU to get all European countries under its wings
e) it militarily and soft power wise makes the EU much stronger
There's no way you actually believe this right? The EU is better off with such a big market like the UK inside of it.
We need the UK more than ever if you vote labour. We need leftwing seats in the EU.
Europe has had near zero growth for over a decade, war on its doorstep, rapid rise of the right, etc. There are no Brexit Benefits for anyone.
@@mdl2427 EU need to set an example, EU cannot be rejoined like a bus ticket in just a mere few years. They also don't needto let UK rejoin to show how much of a failure Brexit is , Brits have been whining about it already with a dying economy
So, basically, are you saying that voters can’t trust Labour? Where is the news in that!
Imagine leaving a political and trading bloc, finding you’re no longer a major world power and then going back to pursue ‘closer cooperation’
Thats a tory invoked issue. Not the general UK population
It’s 2046 in the afternoon and the UK is still divided by Brexit, debating stupid and vacuous things that mean nothing and that don’t improve living standards.
Cameron has a pig farm with absolutely no animal welfare or standards as the UK has completely diverged from the EU. His products are very appreciated in Cambodia. JRM keeps reassuring voters that the benefits of Brexit will happen “any minute now”.
While it seems amusing that CAMERON has the pig farm, it should be remembered that Cameron advocated Remain.
The joke would make far more sense if Nigel Farage had the pig farm... or possibly Boris Johnson.
From the conversations I had with many Brits prior to the referendum, the average person was so deluded about the facts, that this "denial" of the truth of how bad leaving the EU has been for the UK will certainly continue to 2046. Part of Thatcher's legacy is that nobody can admit they made a mistake anymore.
why is the Faroe Islands a part of Britain?
Did you not hear about the war with Denmark last week?
If it stops the brutal animal cruelty, I'm all for invasion.
The occupied it in World War 2 and recently with climate change and zombie viruses they have risen out of the earth to take back their post on the beaches and on the landing grounds and in the fields and in the streets.
If you have an atlas from the early 1940s, there's a note that, along with Iceland and Greenland, the Faroes did spend the war years 'under UK protection'.
Now, it's the UK being occupied ... by the clinically gullible, congenitally bigoted fossilised gammon.
(Sorry, but at my age I agree with the maxim "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" .... irrespective of whoever first said it).
AFAIK the Faroe Islands are part of Denmark not the UK.
I simply can’t vote for a party that doesn’t commit to joining SM & CU at an absolute minimum.
It's disingenuous to say that the EU aren't interested in re-opening talks when the agreement's own terms state that it has to be reviewed in 2026. Regardless of whether we or the EU *want* those discussions, they will be happening.
The idea of "getting Brexit done" was always a lie.
Best case scenario is a Labour minority with the LibDems in Kingmaker position.
That ain't happening,,UK is still a more conservative country,,it will take some time before the lib dems are able to acquire such numbers
I was so mad when the UK voted to leave but in hindsight it was the best thing that could happen to the EU so pretty content now. Best to leave it as is
I have only learned how messed up the EU is after Brexit. If only we had a functional government..
Yeah, you're clearly much better off with countries like Hungary & slovakia instead 😂.
@@robertjohn6585 Indeed. Hungary and Slovakia are rather pesky at the moment. Adding a pesky UK in the mix would be total nightmare.
In other worlds, nothing changes.
Honest question. On one hand Brexit is clearly not working as intended, but on the other, if Labour can't appear anti-Brexit brcause it would give the Tories ammunition against them, doesn’t that mean that voters are OK with Brexit as it already is?
You see, the beauty of the first past the post system is that the opinion of the majority is irrelevant. Only the opinion and will of the minority living in the right constituencies is deciding the fate of Uk politics. Therefor, Labours position and behaviour does not indicate anything about “voters”, but only about some voters, living at some place.
We need some kind of PR desperately, AMS or even STV
TLDR it's impossible to know since Sir Kier Starmer has shown that he'll say anything to gain power then renege on every single pledge
I hope he reneges.
Like every Tory leader of the last decade then.
I'm not a fan of Keir at all. He seems like Tony Blair 2.0. I don't even like the way he looks. At least Jeremy Corbyn had some character to him with his beard and old suits. Keir just looks like a call centre manager that drives a grey Audi A6. About as much character as a bowl of porridge.
@@MajimaEnterprises imagine basing your decision on who should run the country based off looks... No wonder we always get such shit governments if that's how people decide
@@danhunt3327 Imagine thinking looks (as in the way someone chooses present themselves) isn't an outward expression of that person's personality.
The EU mobility scheme was the most positive & brightest news since the Referendum & yet within a day it was quashed by both parties. Expected from the Tories but the fact that Labour cannot offer a glimmer of hope to young people, the majority of which want a return of some form to the EU & instead want to maintain this absurd road of Brexit is extremely disappointing & unforgivable
That mobility scheme did not allow the Brits any mobility, that's why it was quashed. It's easy to be on the inside laughing it up while thinking those you've peesecuted will be okay with deals that only benefit you (and only some of you at that).
0:37 You are in Europe. You are talking about the EU.
HOWWW can you still not understand the difference?
As far as the possibility of re-joining goes multiple factors will probably influence what happens:
*Would the EU actually want the UK back?
*What terms would the UK re-join on? As the EU exists currently only two options seem reasonably viable: full fat EU membership, including adopting the Euro or EEA membership. Critically no opt outs/rebates/special terms etc etc.
*What will the EU look like going forwards? Thinking about Macrons multi-layered EU it may that the UK is better fit in a more outer circle relationship initially.
*Whether re-joining would be subject to another referendum and whether any kind of majority threshold is included to be sure we don't end up in yet another pickle (putting it mildly).
The EU and indeed the world has moved on since 2016, life outside the EU is better understood and lastly, UK politicians, who have proven themselves to utter lightweights can no longer blame the EU (it's all their fault not ours) for their failings.