C5 Corvette EBCM traction control fix under $15.00
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2019
- If you have error messages for Service Traction Control, Service ABS, this fix is for you. Dealerships want to charge over 1700.00 to fix this issue but you can do it for under $15.00.
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I got my C5 in 2016, went through Corvette Forum and read all the threads about this before I tackled it at age 71 then. Only thing I would do different today is drain the coolant and take off the upper radiator hose. I didn't and really tore up the skin on my hands getting to the six T20 retaining screws, wedging my hands against engine parts and anything else to get the job done.
I didn't find any info at the time about drilling and tapping the hole to start to get the top cover off, that's a great tip! I used razor blades and exacto knives to go around and around the perimeter of the top cover bit by bit, then putty knives and screwdrivers until I got it off without damage. Drilling and tapping the hole and using a screw to begin to lift the cover is definitely easier than the way I did it.
While you're in there, look for any other spots that might need soldering. The reason any of us have to to this is that they removed lead from the solder [environmental reasons], using another metal but that made the solder brittle and the connections break due to normal vibration. I used silver solder to do the repairs, which is ductile and will probably last forever.
Thanks for putting this up on RUclips!
Ran into this problem with my 2002. LHM Chevrolet quoted me $1,500 for a new EBCM and another $1,500 for a EBPV, thinking the car needed both. I followed your guide and fixed the problem with only spending $30. Thanks for the guide, you saved me $3,000 plus dollars.
Cole Rice that’s great! Live in Utah? I do. I need to change the oil pan gaskets and adjust the e-brake. I just changed out the clutch master cylinder. More work to be done.
@@corkycars93 Yeah, I do live in Utah. I need to adjust my e-brake as well. Lol, there's always more work to be done.
When I made this video I thought it may help a couple people. I didn’t find any other helpful videos on the subject. Now it has been viewed over 31k times! Wow, never thought I would have this impact. Thank you for your support. I would love if you subscribe to the channel. I am now going to be making more videos to share and hopefully they are every bit or more helpful to you and maybe even fun to watch.
mine has been doing this off and on for a while now, just curious has it came back on since you've fixed it. Great video I'll be doing this soon. Thanks, Eric
Eric Richardson it’s been 10 months with not a single issue since. Hope it goes well for you.
@@corkycars93 Any thoughts if it's the same in a C6??? Were you just getting Service Active Handling message? or both SAH and ABS error message??
@@corkycars93 it would help if we knew what year c-5 you are taking about 97-00 are different then 01-04 (I may be a year off) It cost me alot of money to streem so I gave -up watching after 5 min. Its almost impossible to fix my 99s E.B.C.M. THANKS anyway
@@chrisdutro66 sorry, when I made the video I didn’t know they were different for the older C5s. Mine is ‘02.
We took our 2001 Corvette to the dealer over three years ago with this issue. They told us to expect to spend north of $2K to repair the traction control and active handling system. After watching this video we did this fix ourselves this past weekend and I forgot how wonderful my gauge cluster looks without the warm glow of those amber lights. Thank you so much for this tutorial. I definitely owe you a cold brew if our paths ever cross at a Corvette meet! Keep up the great work man.
Obie Young II I am glad you didn’t waist all that money and found this video. Excited I could help.
May I ask, what are the effects of having the module failing on you? how did the car change (handling-wise) and how does the car feel?
I have both the traction and stability control out on my z06 and it handles no differently from before in my experience aside from being able to spin the rear tires pretty easily@@erickbren8702
Wow! I just started some research on the C5 before buying one. This issue seems to be pretty frequent within the C5's. Your tutorial is outstanding for so many owners who've struggled with this. I don't even own a vette and I'm stoked for the people your helping. Saving people thousands of dollars and making their Vettes safer. Outstanding good sir, outstanding!
David F thanks man, I have benefited from other videos and thought I should share the love.
C5s...
instaBlaster.
I was quoted was told the dealership had no solution.
Your video was right on!! The only thing i did different was to buy a set of 3" long torx bits @ Harbor Freight for about $3.00
The 3" long torx #20 on the socket worked real good. My Vette works like new.
Thanks Again
Donnie in Deer Park Texas
Great! So glad it worked for you. I have more videos coming soon. Next big project is changing the seal for both upper and lower oil pans. It’s not going to be easy or fun..... but will save me about 1800 doing it myself.
I'm 65 & did my 2003 C5 z06 myself on a Friday & Saturday. Not gonna sugar coat it, it WAS a beating! Easiest part is the soldering. Getting the EBCM unit out, removing the cover for access to the circuitry board & then re-installing the unit in the car is the beating, because of your limited work space getting the unit out & back in. But it WORKED! All warning lights are now gone, I've got my ABS, Traction Control & Competitive Driving modes back. The car runs great & it cost me nothing but some blood, sweat & tears, lol. If you have some mechanical ability, a little circuitry soldering experience and A LOT of PATIENCE, you too can do it. Spend the $1700 that shops want to charge you to make the repairs on something fun for yourself! Happy Vette owner, again!
GR8 testimony Sir.
Just a few tips that made this job a lot easier for me...
I magnetized the T20 8 inch screw driver and the T15 bit
I used a QuickJack so I could raise and lower the car quickly
I removed the upper two screws from above
I removed the middle and lower two screws while under the car
I removed the EBCM while under the car, easier with more room
When replacing screws, tape the edge of the screw head (on both sides) to the magnetized screw driver with duct tape. It keeps the screw in place with considerable stability and the tape pulls off the screw without leaving any tape behind.
This is one of the most informative vids that I've come across. Thank you for sharing.
Excellent and thank you for no music!
Great walkthrough, just finished my repair today, worked like a charm. Ended up soldering some other locations that looked suspect while I was in there also.
Thanks Corky, Fixed mine a treat. If you are ever in south west France I'll cook ya dinner and provide the wine.
Glad it worked well for you. Would love to visit France. I will hit you up if I am ever in the area. Thanks.
@@corkycars93 Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the hole you drilled and tapped out is 4.2mm which is the right size for a 5mm tap, which may save a little work
Thanks Corky! Appreciate your time and effort put into making life easier for others!
did it e x a c t l y as shown in this video on a Cadillac Seville 2004 - including the yessss yesss yess yeeeeesss - only thing i did additionally was to heat the whole PCB with a hairdryer to prevent any solder cracks to be missed - thank you from Germany for the GREAT demo and for sharing!!!
Many thanks for the video. I just used this approach for the same issue on my 2003 Cadillac DeVille DTS and it worked. And I was even able to see the suspect solder connection among the five and fixed it after touching up all five.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Great tutorial! I just cleared the errors on my '03 C5 z06 following your guide. Many thanks for posting this.
So you took it apart and Soldered it yourself like him? this is a year later I'm curious if it's still working this video is amazing I hope you had good luck with it still
fantastic job on showing the problem/fix for it with great detail! I must find more of your videos since i plan on keeping my 2001 with 37K miles on it.
Thank you for going through all the steps. Especially showing the drill bit size and tap you used.
Colby Brown you are very welcome. Hope it goes smooth for you. It’s been about 6 months and I have not had an issue.
for future reference, find a box, open end or closed end wrench (what ever you want to call it), to fit over the handle of the screwdriver for more leverage
Very good and informative video. My 2002 Z06 had similar failure indications. The dealer thought it was the EBCM, but it had Steering Angle Sensor codes as well (C1287 and C1288). Speaking with Brandon Hite of ABS Fixers in Missouri, his educated hunch was correct - I put the car in the shop early yesterday morning to have the Steering Angle Sensor replaced, they were done by 2:30 in the afternoon. The new sensor fixed the problem. Drove it home and the console Traction Control button works normally and allows me to go into Competition Driving and all that good stuff. It toggles correctly. None of the problematic DIC indicator messages nor caution lights came on.
I appreciate Mr. Hite's able assistance and being honest with me, when he could have taken advantage of me and had me send in the EBCM box. It all works now correctly.
Thank you very much for this tutorial. Saved me from either spending almost 2k on a new module or finding someone to repair it.
I just want to say thank you for your video, helped me out tremendously. Did exactly as you stated and fixed my problem. I was completely shocked! Thanks again.
Very helpfull I have been fighting my 05 c6 for along time I will be looking into this
WOW! WOW! TWO WOW'S THANKS FOR TAKING TIME TO POST THIS.
I HAVE HAD MY 2001 FOR SEVERAL YEARS . I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THIS PROBLEM ABOUT 4 YEARS , BIG THANKS
Your video was right on!! The only thing i did different was to buy a set of 3" long torx bits @ Harbor Freight for about $3.00
The 3" long torx #20 on the socket worked real good. My Vette works like new.
Thanks Again
Donnie in Deer Park Texas
@@donniehill1704 good to know.. Did you use the bolt method getting it apart ?
Beautiful Corvette👍🏼
Mine is just starting to get buggy. Every once in awhile I’ll get the service soon message but when I reset it and restart the car, it goes away. I’m sure this is just the beginning. Thanks for fix!
Thanks for posting this. I have a c5 z06 with TCS ABS light and the code that I read was for EBCM failure. I followed your great directions and fixed the problem. Without your instructions I would probably still be trying to get that sealed cover off. Excellent work.
do you remember what code you were getting?
My is C 1214.
Now that was awesome.. and I don’t own a vette. Considering a C5 in the future. This was easier than some of the fix it’s I’ve done on my Land Rover. Thank you!
Thanks I've owned my 99 c5 for 14 years and have been dreading this problem. It hasn't happened yet, but I no longer have to worry when it does.
Actually, I'm a C6 owner. And I've heard about this issue for some of the C5s. It was very interesting to see what was done. And I feel this procedure can be applied to other instances. Who knows, I might be able to use this technique on something else. And you certainly can't beat the cost!! Great fix! This'll certain help the out C5 owners.
I just picked up my Vette from the dealers. MY EBCM unit was bad. so It cost me 170 bucks for them to tell me those modules are not longer available. So here I am and will take on the task myself. now that I watched and learned.
I'm about to dive in! Thanks for your knowledge!
Just did this on my 2003 c5. No more codes. Thanks for your help.
Great video! Loved your enthusiastic “the lights off!”. I know that feeling!
Brother. That was one incredible job, explanation, filming, etc. Sincerely you are a Pro that many could learn from. So very kind of you. Thx. Enjoy the C5.
Deano Drumz&Shuutz thanks, that was very nice of you.
Great video, my buddy down the street owns a 2007 Vette, and he asked me , since he always sees me working on cars for help. He mentioned ABS light, Traction control issues and limp mode. He didn't remember the codes he read offhand. Anyway I'll inform him of this awesome video, maybe we can fix it together, once again thanks !!
I had a 2001 Z06 I haven’t had this issue yet but if I do I now know how to fix it !
Thank you
Thanks man. It worked for me! I just happened to have all the supplies already. The screws holding the module to the unit, were accessed semi-easily with a 1/4" drive socket set with a couple of extensions and a swivel adapter and of course the torx head bit.
Glad it worked for you. Money saved!
Very informative video, thanks Corky.
Another thing I thought might be done, is instead of filling tapped hole with sealer get a short bolt of appropriate size & a sealing washer or O ring and plug it that way.
Lucky for me my traction control still works, got an 02 also but it's a Z06.
Thanks again for the vid..
Great video, love how you explained it. When it happens to mine. I will do as u did.
Thanks sir 👍I took my module out this morning will go on next step👍👍thanks again
I don't have this issue but it makes me so happy that something so severe can be fixed so easily
My thoughts as well this video is amazing I hope I don't get this problem but I certainly will try to address it like him if it happens!
When you said your rubber mallet was missing when you and you should have been looking for a dead blow shot filled hammer I said ok lets keep watching. Then you got your framing hammer so I then had to look at the title of the video because I thought may be this was a vid on how to build a garage for your C5 :).... Just a tip when EVER taking out those TORX bit screws or bolts put your driver in the head of the screw and hit the tool with a hammer of any kind hammer, before you try to loosen it. This will ensure that almost every time you do this you will not strip out the screw or bolt head and it will also make it much easier to get the first turn with little force. Thanks for the video it is very useful..
Went to home depot and bought a Makita long T twenty star and made it easier to get to center nuts! It was three inches long! Thanks!
Fantastic job man I’m actually excited to do this with mine
Thanks for the info. I just bought my first Corvette. 2003 50th anniversary from a private party. Next day abs and traction control lights came on. Might try to tackle this. Never really soldered before. Wish me luck.
Thanks for the video. It was helpful. It looks like you're in Colorado. I am too. I have a C5 and a C3 that I'm restoring.
Just wanted to say thank you for your video it was such a big help
Worth the watch thanks for your time bud.
Well Corky, I did not believe I could do it, but I just finished a test fit and YES, YES, YES IT WORKS!!. Many, Many thanks Corky.
Glad you could do it! Now you can enjoy the car that much more.
I liked this video so I subbed!!! Haven't got this far on fixing my squirrel eaten wiring harness repair yet but soon...
man I did this worked great , lights are off I about cried with joy !!!! THANK YOU !!!!!
lenny great Lenny! Glad it worked well for you. I am all about money saving projects on the car and this was a big savings.
@@corkycars93 I just wonder how someone found this fix , man them lights were driving me crazy , and telling everyone why they were on , drove me more crazy !!! now the horn problem , it would not stop blowing the other day had to pull the fuse ..... I thank its something behind the drivers air bag .... Well thanks again
for your time and info ..........
@@lenny6239 replace the contact pad
Just did this thank you so much! Car safer now!
Nice! Glad you got it done.
thank you worked for my 2002 cadillac deville same ebtcm
This was a very good helpful hints thank you my friend for sharing this with us I do have the same problem exactly and I do want to tackle it myself thanks again we definitely interesting video
Wow thank thank you. Did this. It worked great. Codes were making me crazy. 4- weeks no codes. You da man !!! Very Best to you sir !! Saved $1,1oo bucks
Hillbilly T Bone glad it worked for you! I have had no problems with it after either. Been about 2 months.
What year is your C5?
Bravo Corky, u da man.
The dealer is stuck using factory parts when available. The new part was $1200 retail and the book calls out two hours for the repair and as customary, they usually charge an hour diagnostics to run through the complete "diagnostic trouble tree" to prove what part is wrong and then retest once repair is complete. The dealers around here are $175/hour, so I can see how it could add up. As independents, we have the choice of shade tree variations from the factory prescribed methods and sources. Thanks for the video. Even though I've been doing this repair for over 15 years in my shop, it's always interesting to see how others do it.
My man!! You my good sir are the bomb!! Thank you so much for doing this for us. Awesome. I just acquired a 1999 c5 that was modified by c5 concepts out of Dallas some time back and it's the thresher 400 model for $3000.00 becauseof the ecbm. It moves but I'm going to fix this asap.
Did you do it? People are saying 99 can’t be repaired
@@eMax0 yes, mine is working again.
Good Job on the walk through bro! 😎👍🏻 Do more C5 videos like this...
Brett Mills thanks man. I need to film a few more in the near future. I have a few things that need to be addressed including changing the lower oil pan gasket, adjust e-brake and fix/replace some sensors.
Cool man, plus there is the climate control fix/upgrade and maybe even the HUD? Either case keep her going and good content! 🤙🏻
Don’t even own a vett but now I’m subscribed 🤘👌🤙
Sweet thanks Taylor
I took my entire dashboard off to fix the gauge cluster via soldering on my Prius once. WELL worth it ! Save me $1200 and a month without the car.
Now let's see you do one from a 97-00 C5 please.
The 97 doesn't have competitive driving
You sir, are super helpful. 😎
Well done sir. Now I know what to do if this happens to me. Thanks.
Thank you for your hard work I am now keeping my 2000 c5 :) .
Glad it helped you!
I don't think this will help for a 2000. In 2001 the modules change and those are fixable. The 97-2000 aren't. Correct me if I'm wrong please
I believe your correct cuz a few people said it works on their 01's
Does this EBCM fix work on 2000 c5's?? Please help
Thanks Corky. I got my 01 C5Z in March this year. Just started having this issue. Gonna check the ground points, just because that's always a good thing to do on these cars ... and then get to rippin that ECBM.
Hat Tip!
did it work?
@@johnbonham617 yes. I then had the RF speed sensor fail, but yes, the problem with the ECBM is fixable just as the video shows. 21 year old car. electronics are gonna fail.
@@shaark92 I ask because i'm hearing that the fix doesn't work on the 97 - 01 years.
@@johnbonham617 I'm not the authority, but resoldering those points on the circuit board fixed my ECBM. I remember there was a year set which this didn't work, but on the '01, it did.
After viewing your video (multiple times), I finally decided to tackle this project. Your video took all the guesswork out of doing this. I did the repair today and the results were excellent! No more driving with two big amber idiot lights staring back at me. No more having to clear the error messages every time I start the engine. No more "ding ding ding" every time I'm getting out of the car. Here's the best reason for fixing this system: One day on the freeway, I had to do a panic stop without the ABS. The car got almost sideways after the tires locked up. Now the ABS will work like it should if a panic stop is called for.
Update (October 2022): The EBCM traction control system is still working flawlessly. This repair was 100% effective. No more random idiot lights or error messages. Thanks for posting the video.
So glad you found this helpful! And I am glad you are safe after that experience of slamming on the brakes. Would love for you to subscribe to help support the channel. More videos coming soon.
@@corkycars93 Subscribed!
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I have the same crap going on with extra warnings. Traction Control, Shocks inoperable, don’t pass 80mph, ABS, service soon, service now, I am going to try and tackle the job and see if it fixes these problems. By the way for a non mechanic you presentation was first class sir .
Same problem! Thank you so much
I just Did Mine, It was not difficult at all, You need a Screwdriver type It took 15 mins to get it off. I bought my car with 36,000 miles and it had been off before, solder it and it works great, Thanks
I was quoted $3k for just the part... Going to do it myself.
Summit Racing has em for 177$ However, i wouldnt buy dorman again...
Savage bro! Thanks for this life saver video
Just picked up a supercharged 2001 z06 today with the same problem will be trying this tomorrow
Thanks for the video bro I needed that
Hey Corky, great repair. How did you determine which points to solder? Thanks for the video.
My EBCM lights came on several weeks ago. Happened once before but recovered after a restart an hour later...then fine for a year. Now went out and I was planning to fix per this video. But after 3 weeks it cured itself and has been OK for a month so far. I'll wait until a permanent failure. That is my message...wait a long while before attempting to fix it. Nothing gets damaged by waiting.
Awesome video! Thank you so very much, greatly appreciated!!!
Years ago mine went out and I sent mine out to be fixed and was very grateful. At that time it was said a resistor had to be replaced. And on top of that , no one had shown how to open the lid.
( I gave up trying )Not being electric minded , I was happy to send it off. But now that it is just a re-soldier , I would differently attempt it myself.great video.
Actually, this doesn't have to pertain to just c5 owners! Similar year LeSabre EBCMs are nearly identical if not identical, and have the same process to fix it. with the help of your video, I think I've decided to tackle this job myself, instead of sending it to get repaired for $150. Thanks!
My 2001 just threw that code today. Looks like an easy fix, thanks!
Ya, it’s a common problem. If I can do it, you can do it! Good luck.
@@corkycars93 Yep, it was easy. I used a torx screwdriver. I had the screws out in less than 5 minutes. Tapping the case case to use a bolt to open it is a must. I don't think you could pry it open in less than 5 hours time with all that silicone in there. Removing the big plug before even trying the small one is a must too. Thanks for the help.
That’s great. Glad it worked out easy for you.
Great video and info. Thanks !
Thank you 🙏 I hope to continue with more videos of how to fix things on the C5.
Today, I finally got to remove the EBCM from my C5. The unit was separated and tomorrow I am hoping to do some soldering on the points you suggested in your video. The biggest challenge thus far was separating the top from the base. The hole was cleaned out of silicone, drilled and tapped. Threading the screw in slowly broke the seal and with the aide of a flat screw drive the two sections came apart. Mine had some melted substance just like you had Corky, not quite as much, so that will be cleaned off before soldering. I will post more on how it goes.
Get it Bill.
Any update bill?
@@fabrizziolopez2205 Yes, I followed the instructions and re-installed the unit in the car. What I performed was unsuccessful. There was something else defective and as mentioned below, sent it off to ABSfixer in Missouri. Once returned it has worked flawlessly for 7 months and counting. Now I am enjoying the car again.
Awesome I need to do my c5 abs been on for years
I was really worries about getting a 97-2000 corvette because i heard they dont make this part anymore and its super expensive to fix but after watching this video i think i can still get 97-2000 corvette because all i was looking at was 2001-2002.
Excellent instructions
Thanks Bill. Hope it goes well for you.
I am here to confirm the same method applies to cadillac deville. C1214 fixed by using these instructions thx.
Just listened to a quy about haw hard ebcm for c5 are to find. He said nothing about repair. Thanks for the info. I have a 99 with 200000 miles on it.
My buddy n I tried this last wk, WE PLUGGED IT BACK IN N IT WORKS 😍🥳🤠😯 n now u can't even get new parts
Thank you I fix it.
WOW, mine just went n the lights r on my 2001 zo6, I'm going to try it ,FINGERS CROSSED!🤞🙏 THANKS FOR THE INFO BROTHER ✌
You got this!
@@corkycars93 yes she's yellow n procharged n meth injected HER best run was 10.01 140mph 6lbs of boost. SHES TIME TO TUNE HER UP N PUSH IT INTO THE 9s!..😉
It worked thanks 🥳✌
THank you worked like a charm..😀😀
Hey man, very informative video. Initially I was uncertain as to exactly which point you were referencing at the bottom right of video where there are two points right next to each other. But as video progressed it appeared as tho you were soldering the point on the left of those two particular points. How did you determine that those were the 5 points that needed to be resoldered? I’m now motivated to do mine! Thanks
Very good video. I own a 2005 Vette. I need to follow in your footsteps and change out the EBCM. However, I do have a question. As I watched the video and saw the circuit board with all of the pins soldered in throughout the board, I was wondering how can you tell that there is a cold solder joint that is not making good connection? I know that you have learned from somebody else that those 4 or 5 pins that you pointed out are the usual trouble spots. But, as I observed the close-up of the circuit board, I did not see any solder joints that looked loose or corrupt. Looking forward to your comment. Thanks!
Watch the video, it’s great, and read many reviews but I’m left wondering if while separating the pieces is there anything that can be disturbed or fall out we should be concerned about. Thank you for the video, I’ve gotten the screws out and preparing for separation now. Thanks
You were able to test it without remounting.? I have a 1998 C5 Vett. module been disconnected to allow me to still drive. I'm ready after watching your video get it fixed Thanks for your information. I'm going to tag your site for possible future issues. I plan on keeping the car.
Nice job! I’m wondering if this fix would also resolve my no comms issue. I too have the abs tcs lights. There some chatter about ground points that are also a possible issue I will be investigating . Funny thing about tools they are never where they are supposed to be.
Mine actually has to be drove, idk if 5 mph is the digit or what . I definitely am gonna do this and see if it fixes the issue! Thank you!
One suggestion I would make when doing the pullout of the EBCM unit is to get the front end of the car up on ramps if possible. The hardest part of this fix is the bending over trying to get to the hex screws on the unit. Lift her up several inches and your back will thank you and the job will go faster.
Tht was a good cheap quick fix ! 👏👌😎
Yes it was a big job but I did it I soldered all five points maybe one more but after 500 miles the lights came back on again, did I do something wrong I hate to have to do it again but I will if I could get it fixed. It was a very good commentary.