I think low Fi is a requirement. You dont build lasting relations as a sex worker and that kind of job ruins any chance of real relations of deep connection and intimacy in in your private life. Fi people will see that. High Fi valuing types will also not be able to see Sex as a transaction. So valuing Fe over Fi for sure as it is about the feelings of the moment and the new feelings for a new moment and then a new one….and a new one.. Also I agree with someone mentioning sex is mostly Se. I think sex worker sex is Se based…Sex can be Si too but as a sex worker you got to fulfill some pretty crazy needs and wants I think. That puts it into the Se category. Out of the comfort and safety that is associated with Si which mayeh comes more to fruition in loving relationships. So Se over Si valuing is needed to be a good sex worker. So if you value Se and Fe you also value Ni and Ti. So Beta quadra will be the best sex workers.
I don't know if I agree that it ruins intimacy and deep connection for private life... honestly that seems to me like an assumption that may not be exactly true.
I agree with you 100%. Beta ST types are definetly the ones more suitable to sex work, they do it for money and intense pleasure (Se) don't caring about the emotional connection at all because they don't give a sht about Fi.
I'm a SLE enneagram 8, and was a dominatrix for around a decade. I would never do anything like Onlyfans, because no one messes with my money lol. There's no point if i'm not my own boss, and am in complete control.
Fascinating, it would be nice to hear more. Why did you choose to be a dominatrix? Do you feel that you resonated with that more that other sex work areas? What did you like about the profession and what did you not like? Was difficult for you to get in the business or was it a simple decision for you?
@@PracticalSocionics There isn't any other sex work I would consider. I am a naturally dominant and aggressive person. There is no "performance". This is why I was successful at what I did. It was not difficult getting into. I have a lot of drive and hustle, and am extremely competitive, and want to be the best at whatever I do. I worked dungeons and underground sex clubs first, then made the right connections, and went out on my own. The down side, was vetting people. However, I have a shrewd bullshit detector. For in person jobs, I ALWAYS carried.
For ne-fi, it only explains how the person is good at building relationships but it does not explain the sexual part. Being se/si weak really goes against sex work.
Sex work is inherently se valuing. It's about putting on a show. I think the best is actually gamma sf. Strong se+fi. Fe is also strong. I think some iei women might also like sex work due to se seeking.
@@PracticalSocionics a lot of sex work is at least anti-si. Maybe it depends on the field though. Some of them are quite uncomfortable for the actors and almost all of them require some level of faking it
In modern corporatized porn industry, probably SEEs rule almost exclusively. However, if you went back years like 80s and 90s, ESEs and SEIs were far more prevalent. In fact, the brazilian and latin porn scene (imagine carnival orgies) was almost exclusively dominated by ESEs and SEIs back then. Also I think IEEs are a very recent addition to this bunch due to newer technologies like streaming and such.
I don't know about sex workers as in actual pay-to-play work but the porn stars I'm familiar with are mbti-wise ESFPs, ENFPs, ESTPs, ISFPs or ISTPs. The Occasional ENFJs or INFJs might be into the more artistic type of pornography. Maybe SLEs, ESE, SEE or EIEs. You might get some LSEs that see it just as another type of work and it is. I've read some ESIs are into sex work but I haven't seen it.
@@PracticalSocionics EIEs strike me as a good candidate for potential sex work. ESEs, SEIs, IEE, SLEs and SEEs. ANY Type can theorectically get into sex work but these are the ones I think could do it willingly and without too much external pressure.
@@PracticalSocionics Desire to fit in but still wanting to push against boundaries in some way. Value sensory experiences, desire to have a good time, wants positive experiences. Sex Work could take on that energy for them.
Hey Jason. Love your videos. I learned a lot of socionics from your channel and mentioned you in one of my videos. Hope you don't mind and thanks for the knowledge
Of all socionists other than you, Danidin was the only one to touch this question. According to him, top 3 are IEE, LIE (yep!) and SEE. His analysis relatively heavily relies on his "school"'s interpretation of questimity/declatimity, though.
I'm just laughing at the idea of people watching porn but just to analyse someone's sociotype
Now there’s an idea
I think low Fi is a requirement. You dont build lasting relations as a sex worker and that kind of job ruins any chance of real relations of deep connection and intimacy in in your private life. Fi people will see that. High Fi valuing types will also not be able to see Sex as a transaction. So valuing Fe over Fi for sure as it is about the feelings of the moment and the new feelings for a new moment and then a new one….and a new one..
Also I agree with someone mentioning sex is mostly Se. I think sex worker sex is Se based…Sex can be Si too but as a sex worker you got to fulfill some pretty crazy needs and wants I think. That puts it into the Se category. Out of the comfort and safety that is associated with Si which mayeh comes more to fruition in loving relationships. So Se over Si valuing is needed to be a good sex worker.
So if you value Se and Fe you also value Ni and Ti. So Beta quadra will be the best sex workers.
I don't know if I agree that it ruins intimacy and deep connection for private life... honestly that seems to me like an assumption that may not be exactly true.
I agree with you 100%. Beta ST types are definetly the ones more suitable to sex work, they do it for money and intense pleasure (Se) don't caring about the emotional connection at all because they don't give a sht about Fi.
Sex: a topic that is under-explored in the community, yet very intriguing. Glad to see this type of content, Jason.
My thoughts exactly
I'm a SLE enneagram 8, and was a dominatrix for around a decade. I would never do anything like Onlyfans, because no one messes with my money lol. There's no point if i'm not my own boss, and am in complete control.
Fascinating, it would be nice to hear more. Why did you choose to be a dominatrix? Do you feel that you resonated with that more that other sex work areas? What did you like about the profession and what did you not like? Was difficult for you to get in the business or was it a simple decision for you?
@@PracticalSocionics There isn't any other sex work I would consider. I am a naturally dominant and aggressive person. There is no "performance". This is why I was successful at what I did. It was not difficult getting into. I have a lot of drive and hustle, and am extremely competitive, and want to be the best at whatever I do. I worked dungeons and underground sex clubs first, then made the right connections, and went out on my own. The down side, was vetting people. However, I have a shrewd bullshit detector. For in person jobs, I ALWAYS carried.
a masculine woman = Sam Puckett
For ne-fi, it only explains how the person is good at building relationships but it does not explain the sexual part. Being se/si weak really goes against sex work.
Sex work is inherently se valuing. It's about putting on a show. I think the best is actually gamma sf. Strong se+fi. Fe is also strong. I think some iei women might also like sex work due to se seeking.
ILI can actually be drawn to it, again, se seeking.
@@yucheung5853 I wouldn’t agree with “inherently Se valuing”.
@@PracticalSocionicswhy not?
@@PracticalSocionics a lot of sex work is at least anti-si. Maybe it depends on the field though. Some of them are quite uncomfortable for the actors and almost all of them require some level of faking it
My guess before I watch the video ESTP
I believe wikisocion would call this informationally renovative
We can always ask wikisocions creators to weigh in
Allstar interview would watch all 3 hrs@@PracticalSocionics
Before watching the video. ESE-SEE.
I was just watching the dating livestream yesterday and now this 😂
Welcome to the “dark side of the moon”
@@PracticalSocionics😂
In modern corporatized porn industry, probably SEEs rule almost exclusively. However, if you went back years like 80s and 90s, ESEs and SEIs were far more prevalent. In fact, the brazilian and latin porn scene (imagine carnival orgies) was almost exclusively dominated by ESEs and SEIs back then. Also I think IEEs are a very recent addition to this bunch due to newer technologies like streaming and such.
Personally I’ve found the IEE, EII, and SEI to be the best. But that’s just taste and singular experience.
I can't believe you make a video on prostitutes / slaves.
😊😊 what
I don't know about sex workers as in actual pay-to-play work but the porn stars I'm familiar with are mbti-wise ESFPs, ENFPs, ESTPs, ISFPs or ISTPs. The Occasional ENFJs or INFJs might be into the more artistic type of pornography. Maybe SLEs, ESE, SEE or EIEs. You might get some LSEs that see it just as another type of work and it is. I've read some ESIs are into sex work but I haven't seen it.
Feel free to speculate
@@PracticalSocionics EIEs strike me as a good candidate for potential sex work. ESEs, SEIs, IEE, SLEs and SEEs. ANY Type can theorectically get into sex work but these are the ones I think could do it willingly and without too much external pressure.
@@mr.j8568 Why the Alpha types?
@@PracticalSocionics Desire to fit in but still wanting to push against boundaries in some way. Value sensory experiences, desire to have a good time, wants positive experiences. Sex Work could take on that energy for them.
@@mr.j8568 It might for some.
Hey Jason. Love your videos. I learned a lot of socionics from your channel and mentioned you in one of my videos. Hope you don't mind and thanks for the knowledge
Im glad to help
Of all socionists other than you, Danidin was the only one to touch this question. According to him, top 3 are IEE, LIE (yep!) and SEE. His analysis relatively heavily relies on his "school"'s interpretation of questimity/declatimity, though.
Interesting. I don’t who that person is.
@@PracticalSocionics Quite prominent socionist of Talanov school.
@@mikhailturkhan7686 I’ll see if I can find him
@@PracticalSocionics I think he's relatively inactive now. Pity that RUclips deletes comments with links, even relatively oblique ones.
14:28 lmao. That was funny
before watching. ESE only ESE
lol
Jesus christ. In Sweden or Finland you'd be put in jail and I'd be glad about it.