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Porcupinejason
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Typology discussions
Socionics - Si demonstrative function, LSI and ESI
Socionics - Si demonstrative function, LSI and ESI
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Trump - Ukraine/Russia war discussion.
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Let's see how Socionics types view this predicament.
Daniel - Socionics- ESI (ISFj) type discussion
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Helping to uncover a type that is not often seen or discussed in Socionics.
Socionics - Aesthetics and Fashion . It's not determined by a single IME.
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Sensors in general are more likely to be into "aesthetics". But other types have their own version of "aesthetics"
Socionics - "island boys" EIE ?, SEE ? , really really stupid SLE? For a good laugh.
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When you just need to laugh at some good stupidity. THESE ARE DUMBASSES and not a role modeler archetype for any type.
Socionics - Extroverted Thinking (Te). High valuing Te compared to high valuing Ti.
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Some real world comparisons of what Ti users are into vs Te. Just look at what many Socionics RUclipsrs like to talk about and the methods they focus on. Bear in mind : types like ILE , SLE, SLI and ILI are excellent using both kinds of thinking. These types are strong at both but still favor one more than the other. Returning Champion : Peter Bartl interview ruclips.net/user/live3adQshl_k-0?si...
Socionics - Introverted thinking (Ti) examples. How to know if you have high valuing Ti or not.
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Examples of Ti can manifest. Ti is about organizing, structuring, classifying and defining things. Individuals with valued high Ti tend to appreciate and develop their own structures of understanding. Those that do not value Ti or have weak Ti tend to ignore these structured classifications. Some TI polr types may take it a step farther by actively seeking to discredit these structures or deny ...
Getting better at dating ? More Bullshit on a white board.
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Dating and mating is a complex social skill. Like all skills it takes practice and a more nuanced understanding than what can be written on a white board. Ideology on women doesn't demonstrate skill, techniques or any verifiable statistics. Nice example of some CS Joseph / Beta type of Ti gone crazy . They've become a plague.
Socionics - Star Wars - Jedi Codes and Quadra values discussion
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"This is Blue Leader. We are starting our attack run now."
Socionics - Beta Quadra and politics...When Beta rules the world things can explode. LSI , EIE
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Quick conversation starter on current world leaders in conflict.
Socionics - 3 Body problem - ILI (INTJ) Gamma Quadra hypothesis
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@WorldSocionics @CognitiveFrontier
Socionics - Run through on Lamb Sauce's type list form the Jungle server.
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Just remember "Plato sucks" What are your thoughts on this list? Leave a comment.
Socionics- typing tips for interviewers from my experience.
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Socionics- typing tips for interviewers from my experience.
Socionics- Should you join typology communities or servers?
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Socionics- Should you join typology communities or servers?
Rusted typology change to SEE. Western Socionics vs classical Socionics
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Rusted typology change to SEE. Western Socionics vs classical Socionics
Socionics / MBTI - Best sex workers (top 3) . Which type really does lend a “helping” hand.
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Socionics / MBTI - Best sex workers (top 3) . Which type really does lend a “helping” hand.
Socionics - ENTJ ( LIE ) - ENTJ biggest myths - from Rusted Typology
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Socionics - ENTJ ( LIE ) - ENTJ biggest myths - from Rusted Typology
Socionics - can you trust celebrity typings in typology?
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Socionics - can you trust celebrity typings in typology?
Socionics - Typing Session with Sam - EII after a follow up session
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Socionics - Typing Session with Sam - EII after a follow up session
Socionics Se type seeking out Ni Example for ESTP and ESFP
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Socionics Se type seeking out Ni Example for ESTP and ESFP
Socionics - IEE (ENFP) chatting with Haley
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Socionics - IEE (ENFP) chatting with Haley
Socionics - Practical uses - Lessons in leadership.
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Socionics - Practical uses - Lessons in leadership.
Socionics - Ti polr. Challenges between Ti vs Te valuing types.
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Socionics - Ti polr. Challenges between Ti vs Te valuing types.
Neurodivergence and Socionics: opening the door to another important topic within psychology.
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Neurodivergence and Socionics: opening the door to another important topic within psychology.
Socionics - EII (INFP in mbti) or IEI (INFJ in mbti) - which is a better counselor?
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Socionics - EII (INFP in mbti) or IEI (INFJ in mbti) - which is a better counselor?
Socionics - Beginner's guide to typing series - 3 key functional dichotomies for Model A.
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Socionics - Beginner's guide to typing series - 3 key functional dichotomies for Model A.
Socionics - LII - Review of WSS typing of Matt. Breaking down typing in real time
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Socionics - LII - Review of WSS typing of Matt. Breaking down typing in real time
Socionics - Developing speed in typing. Enneagram 8 core type….maybe
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Socionics - Developing speed in typing. Enneagram 8 core type….maybe
Socionics- Sex and the City - Samantha Jones
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Socionics- Sex and the City - Samantha Jones
EII is the therapist. IEI is the one needing to use the therapist
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Almost all dictators,Autocrats, Politicians came from this quadra 90 percent of US presidents and worldwide leaders are from this quadra .
can you explain FI Demonstrative?
I'm an ESTP in MBTI and an LIE-3Te in Socionics - which is usually going to have an 8w9 enneagram type. A Number of People seem to believe ESTPs can't be LIEs which I most assuredly don't agree with. I actually think ESTP to LIE is possible but maybe rare. SLEs and LSEs are what I've mainly seen. Supposedly ESTPs are commonly found among SEEs as well.
@@mr.j8568 I would agree with you
@@PracticalSocionics I misspoke a little as I'm LIE-Ni 864 as Ni's often have 4s in their enneagram with 3 probably emphasized with Te's. Unfortunately you have to do your own sleuthing when it comes to subtypes as there is A LOT of misinformation and mistyping out there. So You've got the stereotypical ESTPs, the SLEs who are the jocks, military people, sometimes criminals (ALL ESTPS share a common behavior to a greater or lesser extent - for good or ill, regardless of sociotype). The LSE's are also military, law enforcement, maybe business and the arts. The SEE's might be in politics, artists in some way, athlete's. They may also have serious drug or alcohol problems. Smaller numbers of ESTP's are ESEs and EIEs who may also be in the arts in some way. I don't know them well but probably unconventional thinkers. Speaking of unconventional, ESTPs that are LIEs are a rare breed in my opinion, which is why some people think they don't exist. Nerdier in their youth than the other ESTP sociotypes but may have studied martial arts or somesuch at one point as they are still physical like all ESTPs are. Depending on which subtype they are, they could be mistaken for LSEs or SLEs or in some cases one of the introverted types. Big Time Risk Takers like all ESTPs are but with the pragmatism of the LIEs. Very Forward Thinking and either more intuitive or logical, depending on the subtype, than the average ESTP. Might be in science, technology or psychology, very much a jack of all trades. Might be hard to type if you don't know them well. That's my two bits.
I'm an LIE and there is NO WAY he's an LIE.
I have been typed as one of gamma types before but doubt over it was causing trouble. When you look at it in the terms of quadra values, it really makes lot more sense. Independence component, and how it affects different types of things in life, I can tell its most likely true for at least 95%. helpful video
What do you type Augustus Caesar?
I’ve seen him typed as an LIE and so far I don’t see any reason to disagree
you could call me biased, (LIE btw) but Ti doms are too dogmatic and rigid for me. they're tryna tick off some imaginary boxes that do not matter and get angry over other people if those rules are not being followed. moreover, they're dead serious about it too, whereas I'm more careless about it as I know that stuff is very malleable and ever-changing. sometimes, they're way more paranoid too lmao.
What about jung describing people ability to "see around corners" "What americans call a hunch" as in psychic abilites.
Was Jesus a Beta NF or a Delta NF?
@@drivingbritt9617 That would be a tough one. There’s many interpretations one could take to claim either Quadra . I’d be slightly more inclined to suggest Beta NF.
@@PracticalSocionics Perhaps Jesus was a Beta NF with a worldview that contained elements of Delta Quadra values, I guess that would be the most reasonable explanation.
@ The challenge here is that we are dealing with an almost mythical individual who’s exact story is shrouded in legend. One argument could be that he is an EII whose views were codified and turned into a religion. Or that he is IEI who’s philosophy and religion was exported around the world. Given that Christianity is a religion with a structure of ideas and rules on how to be a good person and Jesus’ desire to spread the word , even having an inner circle of “disciples” , he seems more likely a Beta.
@@PracticalSocionics Do you think it is possible for a Beta type to have an ideology that contains Delta-like traits, even though they're opposite quadras and vice versa? If so, it could explain why many debate between him being a Beta or Delta NF? Also, if that's the case, could the same thing happen with Alphas and Gammas, where they could have a philosophy/worldview that has elements that are valued in the other quadra?
@ beta philosophy that has delta like traits: Yes. Having a philosophy or ideology that is consistent, coherent, strict and meant to be universal to all is more of Beta thing. Gammas and deltas are not likely to have those things
Ausra numbered the Demonstrative element 4/2. She saw it as each type's final end product in Information Metabolism. Ultimately, ESI enforces boundaries to maximize comfort (Si+), and LSI enforces laws to remove discomfort (Si-).
Can Si demonstrative lead LSIs and ESIs to promiscuity?
@@inspektorsx6 No. There are other complex factors that would lead to promiscuity. Many types are capable of promiscuity , including Types with low or unvalued Si.
@@inspektorsx6 I find LSI and ESI are amongst the least promiscuous types. They have strong Fi and Ti telling them to keep the commandments and be moral. They also tend to be more religious than other types. My LSI father and ESI mother met through church.
My father is LSI (aka mbti-ISTJ), and my mother is ESI (aka mbti-ISFJ). You describe them exactly. It is evident that you see things and people as they really are.
Damn bro you're really fast thank you! As an LSI I agree with everything you said and one simple example of Si Demonstrative that I always do is simply knowing when go to bed every single day.
Thank you so much, your videos are so easy to understand, im glad i found this channel, fope your channel grows, please keep making more videos
This is very accurate
Please make a video on Si Demo from LSI and ESI.
Best definition!
What about a tangential question of whether EII or IEE makes better counselors? I’m curious how this discussion is similar or different from the EII/IEI one here.
@@infinitysconcinnity2418 Generally the “argument” revolves around EII and IEI but an IEE would also be a good choice at the counselor role. It’s common to find IEE types that are professional therapists, psychologists, etc
@ Makes a ton of sense and that’s exactly what I would have thought!
@@infinitysconcinnity2418 in effect, IEE and EII are in interchangeable in terms of interests or capabilities
I thought i had ocd for a very long time . Searching for information seems very compulsive to us , a way to justify existing.
Typed as IEI consistently, but also as INFP MBTI consistently. Confusing lol. Also Type 5w4 Enneagram. I definitely relate to pretty much everything you just said. Ive never once typed as INFJ on any MBTI test though...which is strange because arent INFJ mostly Type 5 enneagram? What a dichotomy.
I just came from your video about the differences between EIE and LIE, and you said one of the big differences is that LIE doesn't show a lot of emotions. Peterson is nowhere near as stoic as you, for example. He's also perceived as almost prophetic to a certain subsection of young men, where he'll choke up recounting stories of his impact on their lives (LIEs, I'd imagine, are less likely to have this type of relationship with their fans). EIEs (from your video) : "Want to affect the overall social sphere, they want to move towards some kind of ideology, they want to push and encourage people to feel and think a certain kind of way". I feel like this describes Peterson very well. He goes on tours, sells out arenas, and preaches about his interpretation of the biblical stories as primordial archetypes meant to guide us through our lives. I'd be interested in where exactly you see valuing of Te. Is it intrinsic? Or is it some Fe-Ni truths he's discovered and is now trying to encourage people to think about?
God Fi is my lifetime pain in ass! Help me some ethical introverts
Which relationship is worse, Extinguishing or Super-Ego?
Question: Do you consider Link from The Legend of Zelda to be an SLI or an ESI? I ask because on Pdb most vote him as either an SLI or ESI. I know this is a strange question because he 'technically' doesn't have a personality besides the one the game player gives him.
Great thoughts as usual, by the way I wanna request a SLI vs ESI video.
Crimea has a majority Russian population and was only ceded to Ukraine in 1954 as a goodwill gesture. I actually think a peace plan should recognize Crimea as being part of Russia (as it has been for 300 years). As that is what the majority of the population living there want. And maybe then Russia will make compromises and pull out of some of the areas that it captured. And at the very least, give up claims to the parts of the 4 provinces it claims but does not occupy.
Russia had already controlled the Crimea going back to 2014. For all practical purposes it had full control over the crimea and its resources. Launching an invasion into the rest of Ukraine only to settle for territory Russia already had controlled. It would effectively mean that Russia sacrificed billions of dollars, thousands of lives and compromised its political standing in the world for nothing. That’s an unacceptable outcome from a Russian point of view. Given that they’re winning, they have no reason to accept such terms. Let’s also add some socionics to this… Putin is an LSI candidate can we agree? Would an LSI like Putin not finish what he started until he had gained a concrete, irrefutable gain? I would say that Russia might be amenable to holding their current gains with a guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO. That gives Russia some tangible benefits from their expenditures and a chance for Putin to save face politically. The loss of 20% of Ukraine would likely be huge blow for Ukrainians but would allow them to stay an independent and unoccupied country for temporarily.
@PracticalSocionics I agree. When I say Russia should pull back some, I mean a few farmers fields to create a neutal area. Perhaps a kilometer width of the line of control. And outside any areas that Russia occupies but does not claim. (They claim 4 provinces but occupy a little bit of land outside those 4 provinces.) The big compromise is for Putin only to keep the land he now holds. Which is about 70% of the 4 provinces he claims.
I'm watching this video from Slovakia 🇸🇰. Another Slavic nation. I'm in Europe for 8 days
Trump is just another pig in the wall
Bro has decided to become a political commentator. Love ur vids btw.
@@Monoxify I’m not “rebranding”. Just expressing some thoughts on other areas from time to time.
@@PracticalSocionics and that's what i love about you man, 100% genuine. fuck the algorithm.
I loved this video. When I first got into the world of typology, I knew I was INFP, but I believed I was 5w4 sx/sp (I tend to be people-watching, intuitively curious, and very introverted) and IEE (I was an extroverted, curious, and well-liked girl when I was a kid). As I read more about the enneagram, I saw that there was something wrong with my core motivations and I ended up finding myself as 2w1 sx/sp. Being a type 2 sx and at the same time an IEE didn't seem right to me, as it would make me much more extroverted and socially oriented than I consider myself to be. I knew I was delta quadra because of the "good and evil/right vs. wrong" divisions in my thought patterns, so yesterday I finally decided to read EII. Everything resonated with me, except the stoic face thing and the thing about being a "super caring and kind-hearted" person (which should be one of the main characteristics, so I'm a little unsure...) I only keep the stoic face if it's a place where I don't know the others. If I'm at least somewhat comfortable, I'm expressive without even realizing it or trying, it just comes naturally. I laugh easily, too. Well, I was a self-righteous moralist in my early teens. I loved my friends more than my family, but I had rules set in my mind about what was a "good friend or good person" and what wasn't. And anyone who didn't act like it, I would lash out at (I wasn't overly aggressive, but I would make my point about how wrong it was and then give the person the cold shoulder until I thought they learned their lesson). Of course, these rules applied to me as well, and when a friend made me think I had violated them, I would cry in my room and feel like the worst person in the world for days, unlovable. In my late teens, certain events made me do a 360 and I became more passive, more open-minded, more introverted, more observant and motivated to find myself. That said, I feel far from being a "kind and caring soul". I have compassion for others and I move to help them without expecting anything in return, as long as that help doesn't take up too much of my time. I am extremely stingy with my time, which is easily my biggest flaw. It is much easier for me to spend money/give my food to a homeless person every day, than to spend time volunteering at a charity that collects food to distribute to the homeless. Also, I'm not really good at comforting others, I'm more of a counselor type, but people never listen to my advice, so I eventually get tired of having the same conversation over and over again and just listen to the rant, which leaves me frustrated in parts (because 1- you're taking up my time again with something I've already taught you how to solve, 2- you're wrong here, but if I tell you that you're wrong, you'll put on a whole emotional show and I just don't have the energy for that and 3- I start to question my own character by thinking "the fact that you choose not to correct something that you condemn either shows that you don't condemn it as much as you thought, or shows a flaw in your own character"), but I end up convincing myself that going through these frustrations is necessary, because sometimes people just want to be heard and that's what a good person would do. Yes, I'm quite compassionate. Yes, I forgive very easily as long as the person apologizes. Yes, I am quite tolerant of other people's flaws; but I can see my own moral defects as clear as day, so I don't consider myself any more "caring and kind-hearted" than my sister LII, for example, or many others I know. Apart from that, EII beats everything. Do you think it can still be EII? I am a 21-year-old woman, if that matters. I used the translator too, I hope you understand.
that's SO real
Thank uuuu ❤🌟
Do you have any new movies that you're confident on the types of all the main characters?
how tf do u spell ben vaysalin
@@lastsonshine Ben Vasserlan
@@PracticalSocionics thanks
I like this account, but needing a video for this is like needing one to tell apart SEI (ISFJ) and LII (INTP)
@@ArmChairTypology it was asked for
@@PracticalSocionics Fair, taking requests?
@@ArmChairTypology yes
@@PracticalSocionics Can you talk about Stratiyevskaya article on ILI IEE mirage? I dated a young woman IEE earlier this year, and while all the things in that article were true, there were also a lot of positives. The positives are not talked about in socionics much besides duality. Particularly in that article. It's sort of a blindspot for socionics. If you subscribe to ITRs, you could interpret mirage for the irrational types as like really great for dating. Whereas SEE could be the person you consider for marriage. (If you date by socionics - IE SEEs are predictable) SEE and SLI I'd imagine is similar, SLE SEI and so on. TLDR Mirage has negatives compared to dual but provides things dual cannot if you are irrational base. Curious on your opinion here. For LIE same thing probably could be said about semi dual.
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I have a question,are Fi valuers aware whether or not they being rude to other ppl and try to be ethical or is it fe users who are mostly aware of that aspect,Also does Fi polr come off as rude and actually isn’t aware of it being rude unless someone points it out to them?Please answer this I would be very appreciated I just can’t tell whether I’m ILE or IEE even though I get typed as ILE.And with the rude part , there are times when I can come off as rude especially when I’m being objective and realistic about smt and ignoring the emotional or ethical side of things and can also come off as rude when I demand something cuz when I want something from someone I forget to ask politely and would just tell them to give it to me then I remind myself that I have to ask them so that they can lend me. Basically what I’m failing to understand is what’s really the difference between Fi creative and Fi polr.I understand the definitions in theory but when I look at myself objectively I can’t distinguish whether my behaviour is due to being Fi polr or not.Its also hard to distinguish when it comes to relationships cuz I grew up socialising with people (I struggled at first) cuz I always want to be around ppl as it’s better than being alone and I always have this anxiety of other ppl viewing me as a reject because I’m alone.Since I’ve built up social experience and been in many relationships this makes it difficult to see because I can tell whether or not other ppl like me just from their actions and based from the words they say to me especially if it’s the direct (im your friend/girlfriend),sometimes I can be clueless about the relationship I have with someone if it’s not blatantly obvious so I’ll assume that we just acquaintances and only consider us to be friends or in a romantic association if the other person says we are,if not then I never talk to those ppl unless I’m forced to for social survival if that makes sense. Also whenever I meet people I’ll talk to them for a awhile but when we get deeper I usually move on to other ppl and I stop talking to them even though we are close idk why but I forget to talk to them when we establish a close bond so to them I look like I don’t care anymore,most of my friendships also don’t last ESPECIALLY when they move away and I don’t see them anymore,if there’s no way of seeing them in person I’ll stop being interested and will end contact.Also I think this is also important to know,when it comes to romantic relationships I have this thing where I get anxiety for some reason when the behaviour of my partner stops being consistent and there’s a possibility of them not loving me anymore so I have the thoughts of just ghosting or breaking up with them (I only follow through once I find out that they actually stopped loving me),I also would ask them directly if they love me or not and also with some of my past relationships I broke up with some of them even though we going good because I just became bored or lost interest in them and became interested in someone else who I just met.Also big part about me is that I have trust issues and my trust with ppl isn’t really consistent and I can only keep on trusting someone when I’m reassured by the other person that our relationship is going well
My impression of your response is that ILE is more likely. Much of you describe seems to be a lack of focus on people. A sort of forgetfulness or lack of interest.
@@PracticalSocionics in an argument or debate can a ti valuer contradict themselves not only because they are unaware of their own contradiction but because they realise they were wrong about their previous statement and their way of thinking so try to update their argument with a more factual stance which would be consistent from then on but its inconsistent to the fact that they were arguing about something that they disagree with now.Thats how I am like when I realise that I’m wrong when I debate so I try to fix the flaws of my previous argument but it would be detrimental as it becomes inconsistent to the previous idea and contradictory because of the reason that I just learnt or reminded myself of something from my own argument or the other person’s argument that would go against what I was arguing before.Basically my previous logical framework that I previously built has broken down and I’m building it back up stronger than before with better understanding
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I love that you’ve made a video about this. As an ESI, I cannot lie that the allure of making a fast and plentiful income from sugaring etc was deeply enticing. It’s the Se that makes the income and what can come with it so attractive. Using entrantress energy to influence others also feeds to the Se. But, my strong Fi halts me from ever participating in such a thing. This may apply to EII’s as well, but the fact that our morals are so strongly prevalent in us, it makes it near impossible to do. Like for example, I wouldn’t be able to get over the fact that a client was married and doing it behind his wife’s back. I may even lash out on him. Deep, intense, and real personal connections are what drive me. So short, impersonal, transactional sexual relationships for me are quite impossible to even bear or think about. I think what works better for us ESIs and EII is to be in a serious and committed relationship with our duals. For example, I’m married to my LIE husband who is 10 years older than me. It is so much more fulfilling to my Fi and moral values and how I deeply value deep, real, close, and intense personal relationships. Also my husband calls himself my sugar daddy so it’s the best of both worlds.
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