Can a Five Year Old Phone Compete Today? How Far has Android Come Since the LG V50?
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- TEAM SGG PATREON / somegadgetguy It's the time of year we can look back and reflect. We're starting to get a look at 2024 devices. How far has Android come over the last five years? Revisiting the LG V50, let's see how well it can hang against modern powerhouse phones. Will it be completely outclassed? Over course it will!
Enthusiasts want more performance, but will an old premium phone lose SO bad that consumers would want to upgrade their phone? This conversation is more complicated than a GeekBench score...
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Appreciate that 😊
LG G8 user here. Still works wonders for what I need it to do, the only time I thought of needing to upgrade is when I saw the phone chokes when I play the newer games with unreal engine
2019 and 2020 were PEAK smartphone. We didn't know how good we had it...
My wife is still using a S10e along side a S23 and she says the only real difference she notices between them is in pictures. She usually uses the S23 for pictures, unless shes taking a food picture for her blog, then she actually prefers the S10e because its able to focus on the whole plate better. But for daily use, she doesnt have a preference between them.
It's tough right? We have to get REALLY specific about REALLY high level computing tasks to properly demonstrate differences between phones made FIVE years apart. 🤯
@@SomeGadgetGuy yeah, I'm planning on upgrading my OP9 to the 12 when it comes out in a few months, because I will actually notice and appreciate the difference, but for her, she genuinely doesn't. It's a testament both to how much progress has been made at the bleeding edge, and also to how good phones already were 5 years ago.
Dude. I'm excited for you. I LOVED the OP9 year, but switching from an 888 to an 8G3 will be a FUN upgrade. Drive that puppy HARD. 😁
Watching this on my lg qthin8x old Sprint / Wi-Fi phone
I still have my LG v40 as my secondary phone for when i want to do photo editing while i use my Samsung S22Ultra to do video calls and such. Sure the 22U with the 12gb of ram is going to run a lot smoother than my V40 but it still holds its own to it.
I wish LG would do one last phone with a quad dac and the best specs. But one can only dream
Sigh... Yeah... That ship has sailed unfortunately...
Using a Moto G Stylo 2020 🎉
Still using my op6t
Hey! My Mom is still using that phone too!
My phone is still running well, 5 years after the fact....The domestic LG-V50.
I think a LOT of older androids from the LTE era are probably doing well today...
GS10e is rocking my daily work life. GPS, Email, calls, messages all day. Battery it's meh 😑 but the phone keeps up.
Another V50 user here, still running strong. Battery, performance still good. Haven't felt the need for an upgrade yet. I also have a working V30 as a company phone. RIP LG phones.
Salute bro!
Same! If it weren't for a terrible camera issue, I would use the lg50 to this day
Petition for LG to release another V series.
Commenting on the v50 thinQ.
I'm happy with my LG v60 and it's going strong. My use cases are very simple that includes listening to FLAC files, revanced youtube, ssh, ftp, remote viewing, casting, camera and occasionally zipping of files.
I also use bamboo stylus with my dual screen. I love this phone so much that I have purchased another v60 as a backup
Ah... The v series. The only phone series that allowed me to feel comfortable with leaving my DAP at home. Why are we going backwards in tech in some aspects?
Manufacturers want you to buy their Bluetooth earbuds, so they removed the headphone jack. And the average consumer doesn't really care or know about high quality audio, so most prople aren't bothered and buy the devices anyway.
@@marasion0862 preaching to the choir. People actually think that Bluetooth is better until I explain how low quality it still is. There's a reason the best and most expensive headphones in the world are wired.
Look at all the incredible engineering and the insane costs and investments to consumer tech JUST so we could KIND OF drag wireless earbuds back up to "near CD quality". Replacing a cable is often a silly endeavor...
@@SomeGadgetGuy I agree. Bluetooth is convenient but I just liked it better when we all had options. I like to be able to choose when I want convenience and when I want wires. Phones used to have both. it's not quite the same as transitional technology because normally, the new tech replacing the old tech was normally better. Now we just stepped back. I've had my Audiotechnica MSR7 for I think 8 or 9 years now. I got them before they were released in the states. I can't say the same about any of my Bluetooth earbuds.
I'm still using my V50 for listening to music and for taking manual videos. Gcam support is also great. Got it used market in Aug 2019 still works great after all this years. Will used it until it gives up on me.
Watching this on my LG G8x on stock LG Android 10. Still running fine. My daily driver is a battered LG G8 which I am eventually going to replace with an LG V60, which I have two with dual screens ✌️ Very happy with all of them, thanks for bringing up the LG.
Went the same route as you. No regrets. The V60 is a beast.
The last classic year of LTE phones. I feel it was maybe the best overall year for mobile.
Great job as always. I think that last part explains why I dropped benchmarks from my reviews in their entirety. What a few years ago now cuz the benchmarks don't really mean anything. What really matters is does the phone work for you? Does it do everything you needed to do? Does it make your life more convenient and are you happy with it? Cool, if not, how much are you willing to spend? And here's my recommendation and here's how this particular phone performed when I put it through his paces. That's pretty much how my review style goes these days. Keep up the great work bro. Have a good one and I'll catch you on the next one. I really got to figure out what issue patreon was having because I really do miss those camera deep dives some of my favorite full camera coverage on the internet.
Hit me up if there's anything I can do to help sort out issues!
@@SomeGadgetGuy I fixed it. I had to clear out everything and then do everything over and then it reapproved my membership. It's good to be back lol
Glad to have you back! 😁👍
My V35 is still in service. Emails, texts, browsing and shopping all still good enough for me. I still get comments about how good the pictures taken on it look. The screen looks as awesome as it did when I bought it in 2019. Notchless with a headphone jack and sd card support. I would love to have the V50 as an upgrade but I'm in no hurry.
That V30 era was solid.
@@SomeGadgetGuy How are people still using the V30 and V35 in 2023? I'm thinking about buying one if the price is low.
@@mackdon69204GB of RAM is not good, so better look for a V35 with 6GB, but there may be some problems using GCam for photos (without that app V30 & V35 photos are trash cos not working HDR)
If you thinking of getting the v50 rather the v60
Don't you worry about no updates? I still have one but haven't been using it for this reason.
I can't handle the idea of switching my LG V60 this phone is a beast and still fast and has a lasting battery even tho it's almost been 4 years
Snapdragon 865/865+/870 is still a plenty powerful SoC in 2023.
It's a bummer. There's literally no direct replacement for a V60. Every other phone has serious compromises.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Xperia is kinda there but the software support is terrible to say the least, the only logical plan forward for me is to get and S24 Ultra if it's good and get myself a nice music player
the xperia is also too expensive and too limited in its scope @@walid6329
I have my LG G8 ever since it was released, and it still holding up neatly, the fact that I also used to have a Sony Xperia 1m2 and decided to sold it and kept LG G8 said a lots of things about LG phones.
It's so hard leaving that quad DAC...
No lies decected regarding quad dac on LG G8.@@SomeGadgetGuy
Too bad LG didn't create more phones and it's almost a monopoly now with Samsung and their stubborn one ui and over sharpening algorithms
I got the lgv20 based on your recommendation back in the day and owned it for 3 years. Swapped the battery once. It was awesome.
Still have it as backup
My only problem was with the UI, which has slowed down heavily, which is the only problem
Still takes great photos, videos have manual mode as well and the quad dac is such an important feature for me that I don't find in recent phones. I use a usb dongle now on my Motorola Edge 30 Ultra.
It's a bummer. What I wouldn't give for a new V20 with the same general build but modern internals...
Samsung doesn't have a monopoly. There is Motorola, Nokia, Sony, TCL, and others out there. You just have to look.
@@colebendoggettyounger2610 no
Mostly when you say Android, you say Samsung. You get something else and people are like why what happened. And you are stuck with what they offer. I got a s22 plus because of this pressure, absolutely hated it. Now have myself the edge 30 ultra and getting by without relying on the phone's photo processing
Samsung isn't QUITE as dominant as they used to be, but with so many people "leasing" phones they can't really afford, the majority of Android owners in the USA likely get a Galaxy from their carrier. It's a MUCH smaller market for folks who know they can shop phones outside their carrier stores.
@@SomeGadgetGuymost people don't use their phones for high level gaming, professional type stuff, or video editing or conferencing etc. most people email, tik tok, FB, and take a few pics and play simple games. You don't need to spend 1000 for a phone for that. A 200 dollar or 300 dollar phone before taxes and a warranty can do that. People have to look in different places.
You're making me want a V50 now Juan, lovely seeing you again with an LG device
LOL I do tend to have the effect on folks, but I would also say this show down would perform similarly well for almost ALL the premium phones from 2019.
I picked up a new LG V50 a couple of months. I still have my V40. The V50 has a larger battery and the phone last a full day. My V40 would be running on fumes by 3pm.
Also, Quad H.D. display, Quad dac, IP68 protection, headphone jack, resonance chamber built into phone, 5 cameras, Mill standard build quality. I also added full malware protection with a VPN. Umm...you will not find that on any midrange phone today. I could have brought a current flagship for 1k...but why? My needs are met for much less.
Scoop one up...best bang for the buck.
Glad you still make these reviews, like you even did years back with a 4 year old huawei compared to modern phone stuff/use and it passed with flying colors.
Still havent felt the need to change my V50... I got a pocket wifi to avoid using data and it did wonders to the battery life plus since I always carry a bag I dont have to worry about storage space. After a rough beating for 5 years it finally got a small crack at the corner but no damage other than that. As a preceptor I use it to record videos of my trainees to send to the main institute to be graded by the other instructors... and they've occasionally asked if I used a dedicated camera for the videos because mine always came clearer less shaky than every other assessment videos they received... and thats just a simple 1080p vid spliced together with capcut XD
Im still not sure what to replace it with if in case it fails... if it does fail this or next year XD. I game mainly on Bloons, Masterduel and ppsspp. My dad is still rocking and is happy with his S20FE, and my brother is rocking an even older pocoF1. Buying a flagship even a 2nd hand flagship is definitely the best bang for buck.
Oh yeah! That Nova is still a little champ. I wish more folks would just look up if they could get their battery replaced. It's like getting a brand new phone again.
Yeah agree. I scour resale market for bargains. Pixel 7 pro is 350 from Amazon renewad. Thinkphone 399 nee, 350 renew. Pixel 6 pro is 235.
They all still get 3 more years of security patches at least b
please take the nova on a video this year
I am still using my V50 and see no reason to upgrade after nearly 5 years. I bought it after watching your videos back then.
Heck yeah! Check around and see if any shops near you can do a battery replacement. Keep that puppy running for EVER 😁
I still have my V50 got it in 2020. Can't believe i have this phone for almost three years. after i check the battery cycle it's nearly 1500 cycle and yet screen on time is still almost 5h. this phone is still hold up very well in my opinion
How did you check the cycles?
أتفق معك الأجهزة المتقدمة في حينها لاتزال جيدة جدا في الأداء ، و السؤال الذي يبدر للعميل هل معايير الأداء الأعلى مجدية مقابل السعر الباهض.
شخصيا أعتقد أن الأجهزة المتقدمة لها القدرة على العمل بشكل جيد جدا حتى بعد ٤ سنوات، وممكن أعطي جهازي الذي مضى عليه ٥ سنوات على الأقل للأبناء، أو الاحتفاظ كجهاز احتياط
Bought a refurbished LG V60 3 years ago, and while it's not my main phone anymore, I still use it everyday for the headphone jack/DAC for my nicer headphones :)
LG's Quad DAC really hard to beat.
Watching this on my LG G7.
The original LCD is still great without ever putting a screen protector.
I am not ready to sacrifice the headphone jack and sd card for these newer phones 😢
I had a beaten up LG G6 that was showing clear signs of aging, but I could not bring myself up to supporting the removal of essential features. So I ended up at the the only option I could buy new within my budget, the Sony Xperia 5 III
i personally use budget devices which fulfill my use cases and still have headphone jacks and MicroSD cards, so I'm ok (still wish the phone was significantly smaller and had removable batteries and no notches/cutouts though.. whatever)
Yeah. ANY other phone will be a bit of a downgrade for audio. Sony's DAC is "good", and Sony does an excellent job on minimizing distortion in their audio, but their amp is SUPER weak compared to the G7. There just isn't a proper replacement without spending at LEAST $100 more on a dongle DAC.
As a person who's not an average consumer, having the latest cpu with upgraded gpu definitely helps with emulators such as citra, dolphin, and especially yuzu when you can download and install updated gpu drivers especially when some games even with my 8gen2 devices cant get to 30 frames per second. I do find it annoying when a soc's architecture changed too much and the apks i used in a older gen cpu no longer works until the developers make code changes so the apps no longer crash
I don't mess MUCH with emulation, but I'm dabbling a bit more with yuzu and winlater. We're SO close to just legit emulating full windows environments from phones. 👀
I agree, it seems like we are so close when the 8 gen 3 is many times more powerful than the mediatek p60 that is in my lenovo duet chrome book, but no android company is BRAVE enough to allow duel booting. Even samsung stopped at samsung dex even though they had a beta version Linux at one point for their phones.
you could've spent several times less for a Nintendo Switch and a far better experience?
I do have a switch, but when you have a kid and a switch is something extra to think of to bring on a vacation. Having a phone that can do everything helps a lot.
Watching this on my LG V50 ThinQ 5G
This review is quite fitting. I bought a Pixel 8 Pro about a month ago and other than the camera and battery life, I don't really notice much of a performance difference between it an my old OP9 with its Snapdragon 888. In fact the UI on the OP9 is often far more smooth. I probably would have returned the Pixel if not for the newer cameras.
It's like only a handful of features really get that attention now. There were tests where the V50 was hanging with and outperforming the Pixel Fold 👀
@@SomeGadgetGuy it really shows how important driver optimizations are. Qualcomm had done this really well for at least 10 years. The Pixel 8 Pro has some really great co-processing for photography but I get the sense that Google hasn't fully optimized the tensor cores for much else. It makes me think they're leaving a lot of performance on the table.
Oh I totally agree. I feel they're going REALLY conservative now to pace out the updates and new features for their seven year commitment.
@@SomeGadgetGuy that's a good point, I hadn't really thought about it like that. It's definitely possible that they might slow roll improvements and optimizations over the first 2 to 3 years at least.
I bought a v50 after watching your review in Nov 2020. Still enjoy using the phone and plan to keep it for another year at least.
I love that. It's such a little work truck of a phone.
I agree with you! Especially lg v gen is one of a kind. I have a v30 and it still runs pretty well,. I love lg phones and l think they're much better from other phones.
Keep making videos like this. Good job 👏 👏👏👏👍👍👍👍👍
Great video. LG fans stand up
My man!
not sure if luma uses gpu encoders but the free version of resolve doesn't allow you to use your GPU encoder for rendering out, its CPU only.
Latest version of Resolve can use GPU in Free version, albeit just one GPU. The Resolve Studio allows four GPU.
LG phones really helps me a lot for my audio reviewing. I have LG V20, LG G7, LG X4+ and LG V50. I owe these devices for my success on reviewing IEMs . You are one of few phone reviewers that really specialises on audio.
HECK YEAH! LG is a still a monster option for mobile audio. LGs have a brilliant second life as media players. 👍
@@SomeGadgetGuy agree. Even I already have DAPs and USB dongles as part of my tools, The LG phones will always be part of my arsenal to test some of the latest IEMs in the market. Hiby Crystal 6 II and LG phones are one of the best pairing that I've got so far.
Love my V50, still using it as my main driver even with the 3G services cut off.
I'll either get the korean model or a v60 when it finally kicks the dust
It's such a gem. I wish we had gotten the proper V500 here in the USA. This dual display is STILL a killer competitor to folding phones.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Looking forward, should I have problems with the V50, I'll just roll over to the V60, & poke around for the 2nd screen. Thanks.
Still using my Korean V50
Battery still up to 7hrs on full charge and handles a lot of modern games well too
Battery only lasts a bit over 2hrs while gaming (wuthering waves)
This is honestly the first review I see that actually says how the phone performs during long usage, apart from some comparison of gaming phones or when I deliberately search for thermal test. For newer phones GSMArena does thermal tests but they're not in the main spec page. Notebookcheck also does them so these are the only 2 sources I use for reviews.
I think the little power part is a problem only for the cheaper midrangers (and probably samsung's A50 series in Europe) because of all the "let's put AI on everything" and the tracking features of every app now. But this is a problem online as well where most webpages load their content for fraction of a second but take a few seconds to load all the tracking parts. So now we need much more power to load the same content (like actual content that you read/see) for the same time, just because of all the extra stuff...
We're seeing that HARD with AI. I promise you that 24GB of RAM on a phone has NO benefit to even the heaviest of apps and games. But it WILL be necessary when you're unpacking BILLIONS of parameters for a LLM...
I still using my LG Wing and LG Velvet after 2years+, except gaming these phones are running really well, both are running on android 13 september patch but i guess the software update period is over for now
Yeah I think we're properly done with support. We did WAY better on updates than I was expecting though.
Still rocking my S10+ and pretty happy with it. It still does everything I need a phone to do. Still plays any games I want to play. Camera is still alright. Sound is still pretty good with the dual speakers. Why upgrade? Because it doesn't get the highest scores in artificial benchmarks? And it has features, like the headphone jack, that Samsung and pretty much everybody else has done away with.
We're long past the days when you had to upgrade yearly to play the latest games or actually got a really massive upgrade in features worth spending the money on. I think if you buy a quality hardware device, you can rock it for 5+ years with careful use. Even my battery is still at around 78% capacity after all these years.
But as you showed, if you're the kind of power user doing actual desktop work on your phone, yeah, you'll definitely get a boost from newer SOCs and the efficiency they bring to the table. Those are the people who were probably upgrading every year already.
Even for the extra compute power, the last year of LTE phones were more practical computers. Headphone jacks, with expandable storage, and features like Dex. The S10 is a better overall practical computer than an S23.
Just bought a korean version v50. Planning to activate the 5g system later this week.
Was it successful? and how did you do it?
Watching this on a v50. Using it with my secondary sim, great for media content and spotify music during my daily commute with er2se
LG and music will ALWAYS go together like peanut butter and jelly...
Battery life all day and twice on Sunday. Pardon me Sir but I while i appear to be simply checking out my groceries. I am also conducting a two phone benchmark. What did you expect? I'm an average consumer.
HA! We gotta take this survey wider...
@@SomeGadgetGuy Lol, yes!
I miss your LG reviews! I fell and smashed my Pixel Pro 7 this week. I just pulled out my LG V60 and it’s doing just fine! What to buy next…?
I miss DOING LG reviews LOL! It makes me so sad they left, but at least they went out on a high note. The v60 is a proper work truck.
This just show that old flagships are better,good thing I got a LG V60 last year.
Great Video Juan...I have the LG V50...Ive had this phone since its release...., Ive used iPhones, had a Samsung temporarily, but the LG V50 is the best phone Ive ever owned. I looks great, round/curved edges, no camera bump, and the cam takes great pix. I'll prolly use it till i doesn't come on any longer!!!
DRIVE IT TIL THE WHEELS FALL OFF! 😊
When I look at a phone the main thing I look for are updates I don't play many games but do like editing pictures and videos. A 4500mah batter can last me 2 days.
My lgv50 has got Volte greyed out is this ready for the bin I love the phone I live in yorkshire England and I need told need it enabled for my phone too function correctly?
Personally, I would have taken this LG phone design over anything comparable being pumped out today, just putting that out there. 😊
I’m still rocking the Samsung S10 I bought in May 2019. It does everything I need it to do, although the battery is beginning to wear down. Still, I’m in no rush to drop $1000+ on a new phone when my S10 is still working fine.
It's ALWAYS worth seeing if there's a shop near you that can replace the battery.
@@SomeGadgetGuy
My battery isn’t bad enough to try a replacement yet - although I’ll be looking into doing so when the time comes. My S10 used to last (with my usage) from 8 AM to 11 PM. Now, with similar usage, it dies at around 7 PM.
No biggie - I have wireless chargers at work, in my car and at home, plus a power bank in my bag if I need to top up.
And after four-and-a-half years of constant use, I’m still quite happy with my phone. The only thing I would like is a better camera - my cats are a little too quick for my S10. 🐈🐈⬛😁
Right now, you're the best in the bitness as far as thorough testing and examples go; one of the only others that I'm aware of has pretty much left the tech game in favor of doing other stuff (Travis McP).
My Galaxy S10+ wasn't struggling on the battery too much, but it was absosmurfinlutely CHOKING on storage, even with having a 512 GB Micro SD card in there. So in September 2022, I upgraded my S10+ to the S22 Ultra, and my wife's S10+ to the plain S22 - in the same Phantom Black as my Ultra, because T-Mobile had shockingly *ALREADY* run out of the pink S22 & S22+. Barring any similar choking on storage, I don't see the need to upgrade again until at least 2025-26.
You should be doing fine for a WHILE. Still kills me though that we can't add cards to any phones now except Sony... Sigh...
Exactly why I said "Barring any similar choking on storage"... because that's a lot more likely since these manufacturers thought it was a good idea to remove Micro SD card support again. And unlike last time, when Samsung did that with the Galaxy S6 family (including the Note5)...this time around, it seemed like more folks just didn't care anymore than those who didn't like that move. Same for the removal of the headphone jack.
I saw LG V50 and i really gasped and hoped LG Mobile's back! Still holding out hope LG!
Leaving quad dac on LG phones is waay to hard ...😁 I use pixel now but i still rock my LG V50 till date for my iems and sd card support for my flac files ..its like my DAP and runs my Tidal and Power amp like a champ ...i basically only use my pixel phones for still photos mostly and iPhone for video recording ...and thats mostly at night time and low light situation when the LG might struggle
For me, that's the only thing Sony missed the mark from being a legit LG smartphone replacement. Sony might still keep the headphone jack, but LG's built-in Quad DAC is still hard to beat.
My wife is the 3rd user of my Huawei Mate 10 Pro from 2017. Only the battery was changed some years ago, but it is still going strong. Because she is not using it as a banking solution, the older software (Android 10 with old security patch) is not that of a concern. However, in the long run, I want to replace it with something like a pixel a series phone if it will get the same support as the main pixel phones. Not because she needs it, but because of the software situation.
It is also interesting, that if you find a phone, that can deliver every feature you want, how little you want to replace it, even if you changed phones like clothes before.
Mate 10 was a MONSTER too. Such a good phone.
I'm still using and still loving my LG V60 as my daily driver. Still fast and has great battery life. I can't give up that Hi-fi DAC or SD card slot and great pics.
Quad DAC is so tasty...
Battery life please, followed by better selfie cams with 4k60, more software updates and brighter screens (i live in Thailand sun all the time). Compute power is enough already for some years.
LOL RIGHT! Even I WISH we could just hang out around the performance of the 888, but just keep improving efficiency and battery. I know MAYBE five people who would answer the other way 😄
13:49 unfortunately 99% of mobile tech videos are just benchmarks and it bothers me alot, in 2024 we all know that phones are crazy powerful and have great cameras no matter the brand choice, instead they should focus more about the software features, connectivity issues battery lifespan and a lot more content, it's pointless nowadys to still talk about performances and cameras in flagship territory
Well, seeing as how there is no one consistent winner in real world app testing, I still think it's worth talking about performance.
A bunch of computers have a core i9, but some perform better than others.
If someone is going to spend $1000+ on a phone, I want them to be a bit more curious about what that phone REALLY does well.
I gave my mum my old v30+...it holds up just fine and is plenty fast even comparing it with my s23U. I think the idea of the slow down is a little with manufacturers doing dirty and slowing down old phones on updates and a little with older memory actually causing issues over time even with factory resets. Every old phone I got from my older sister where slow and a pain (2008-2013 era, galaxy 1 and a nexus 6).
And regardless on performance and even if its overkill its nice to have....phones are pushing $1500-$2500aud on flagships, but 10 years ago maybe like $700 only
Just install s custom OS like legacy os
I'm VERY skeptical that Google and Samsung will deliver those year 4,5,6 OS updates that actually improve performance. I worry that year 5 rolls around, and the OS update will be served to "encourage" people to upgrade their old phones.
They chasing stupid benchmark to put big hole in consumers pocket. 5 years good sweet spot to normal consumer usage.
I think if we can make batteries easier to replace, getting 5+ years out of a phone would be cake!
Watching on my Galaxy Note 9, I always buy it with the intention of using it more than my PC. has worked as planned. Thinking about buying a Z fold 5 because of the Samsung ecosystem and Dex. And really, the battery is no longer enough. Congrats on the channel.
Catching those deals on older phones is the way to go.
These are the true tests!! 🔥🔥🔥
The more compute power in phones, the dumber the user.
People who have samsung S23 Ultra, iphone 15s etc etc don't even utilize for the full compute power of their device, they don't even know how to use it as long as they can post instagram.
Increasingly we're seeing more people game and edit small videos on phones first. It's really only tech "enthusiasts" on RUclips who think that everyone is the most BASIC 'avuraj cunzoomer'. I still want to see folks do more with these PREMIUM phones, but the trends are pointing towards more and more compute tasks tackled by phones first.
I'm still daily driving an LG v40 XD
I was too until T-Mobile forced me to switch to a 5G capable phone last year.
I was too until T-Mobile forced me to switch to a 5G capable phone last year.
Ah yeah...I'm still using my LG G8 everyday and love it.
But 2024 I will have to replace it eventually.
I LOVE that little G8. I wish we still had more phones like that today...
After the LG Dac, I am very happy to be using the ROG 5s 16/512. Yes the performance is great but that headphones jack made me even more happy that Asus can somewhat replace my LG ear candy need
It's the last game in town. Replacing the Quad DAC is roughly a $100- $200 purchase grabbing a dongle DAC.
You are the GOAT of reviewers Juan
Hey thanks for that. I appreciate it 😊
Note 9 phone still good. Only problem is the dirt trapped inside the camera module
It's TOTALLY worth looking around for a shop to replace that. The Note 9 is a CHAMP.
The Snapdragon 865-870 is good enough to get through daily use.
It's still overkill for daily use 😁
Still using the V30 for my audio needs, still have no issues/complaints software side!
It's SO HARD leaving a quad DAC. LG's are AMAZING media players.
LG V50 is literally the first "folding phone" concept when it first came out. So sad that the LG mobile have to closed down.....
We lost SO much when LG left...
The best part was seeing that wireless mouse connected to the phone 👀👀.nindojt know why it never crossed my mind to do that lol
LOL It's silly, but it worked.
About to watch the video but I just replaced my v60 with the Sony xperia 1 v. Haven't had this phone long enough to pass true judgement. But Jesus why has no talked about how limiting stock android is. No customizing the navigation button layout, app drawer configuration, quick settings drop down shade, ect... Like what happened to android. Honestly the first phone in 6 or 7 years that I've had to put a launcher on and considering rooting.
It's a tough transition right? I still LOVE what Sony puts out, but you can tell almost NO effort goes into their flavor of the OS, and they're focused WAY more on their camera and editing apps.
@@SomeGadgetGuy what's is very frustrating is the amount of tech reviews I remember trashing other android manufacturers for their flavors of android 😂😂
I already ordered a new motherboard for my LG v50,because still want it untill now😊it is the best phone a have owned in the past years.
13:42 For a split second I forgot that I was watching the answer to your question 😂😂. Anyway, my phone isn't five years old yet, but I'm still using my Galaxy Note20 Ultra, and would love to continue using it for another three to four years. Unfortunately, the end of security patches (not poor battery health) is what triggers a new phone purchase for me. So come time for a new purchase, it's going to be the Pixel 10 Pro in 2025 (unless ofcourse Sony, OnePlus or Samsung offers something similar or close in terms of long-term software support). Fun fact: I turned on my LG G8 last week, and I could have sworn I felt a tear drop 😢. I miss LG 😔
Me too, I also miss LG in the smartphone market. I really love their bravery to be different from the norm.
I happen to have a OnePlus 7T Pro and I am going to change it next year. As you have printed out, battery life is very unreliable now and software experience is degrading in time. It can still take good photos, but I generally change my phones about 5 years. I am gaming on my phone and if I do that, battery life is quite bad now. I wish I was able to change the battery myself as I did on my LG G4. I could install a custom ROM to alleviate the software issues, but there is little I can do about battery life. I also realized that having Warp Charge instead of Quick Charge means I can never charge my phone quickly
You had a GREAT run with that OP. If you can't get a good trade in for it, might be worth looking up the cost of a battery replacement, and keeping it as a back up.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Whenever I change phones, I usually sell my last used phone. I still have 2 Nexus 5 devices (my former EU one and an US one) and my HTC Evo 3D (this one mostly because the outer bezel around the screen fell off once and I cannot put it back again - screen was replaced by an official HTC repairman). I am not sure I will sell my OP 7T Pro. I can easily turn it into a portable retro console, I have a telescopic controller already.
3 things my family cares about in a phone. 1- Battery life, 2- Storage, 3- Readability. Performance RARELY comes up whenever they need a new phone. Charging speeds is distant 4th.
I feel that's a MUCH more common list that most tech reviewers usually acknowledge.
I still use lg G8 and buying v60 for future)
G8 is such a refreshing phone to pick up these days. I wish we had more options like that today...
LG V60 user here. I might be in the (very) tiny minority here but one huge drawback of elderly flagships like this is the lackluster SoC performance in heavier tasks, like how my own Snapdragon 865 is really showing its age in mobile games.
While newer games like Zenless Zone Zero is still playable, it's not what you would call "optimal" thanks to the semi-constant frame drops and overall lowered graphical fidelity, compared to what a modern flagship phone can output.
But hey, I'm just in the minority in a sea of praise anyways, it's alright.
As someone who daily drives an LG V50 with Dual Screen case, all I would ever ask is 8/12 GB RAM as several modern AAA mobile games does have optimization problem. I do play Honkai Star Rail, and I can say 6GB RAM is not enough for it. Having said that, Snapdragon 855 is still a plenty powerful SoC, even when using dual apps and Screen+ Desktop Mode. As for the built-in Quad DAC, that's still a huge champ.
It's just so good. LGs are still brilliant standalone media players...
Watching on an LG V40, having cracked my LG G8, my backup is a Lumia 950.
I am thinking of upgrading though, but will shop used and desperate to avoid the pixel/Samsung duopoly, so maybe an LG v50, or something a few years old by Sony will be my next phone.
It's REALLY tough. If you liked what LG did with their phones, there kind of isn't a proper replacement from another brand. Sony is a GOOD option for a lot of those features, but nothing else QUITE scratches the LG itch.
Great to see someone still using Windows Phone. I also have my Lumia 950 and still love the mobile OS a lot.
@@FAT8893 yeah, I still really like it. Actually my 830 gets more use, as an audiobook/podcast device for my kids.
Also, as a mobile counteract to Gamer Nexus or Hardwarw Unboxed we do have Geekerwan 😀 it's just that their primary demographic is the Chinese market, but English subtitles are provided anyways.
Their videos are awesome, and in particular that one smartphone SoC power efficiency review which is famous online.
juan.
**you** do a good job of _keeping it real_ for us.
😊
As far as I know DaVinci Resolve's free version doesn't use the Intel iGPU QuickSync for hardware acceleration.
Nope. It doesn't. But in terms of fairness, the $20-$30 lumafusion purchase is a LOT closer to free than the Studio version of Resolve.
My Nebula Blue 12/256 OnePlus 7 Pro is still going strong, pop up camera and all!
That's the one I kept too! I liked the almond/gold, but blue had my heart.
@@SomeGadgetGuy Mine is still on Oxygen OS 12.1/Android 12. The last official update from OnePlus for the 7 series.
The 7 Pro was peak design for OnePlus .... except for the curved display. It's the ONLY thing I don't like about it.
I have since switched to iPhone because of the longer OS and security support that Apple offers, plus ecosystem since I already own a Mac, and iPad.
Fan of LG. Had G2, G4 and G6. I had to switch to Samsung because LG doesn't make phones anymore. Still have my G6, my niece is using it for games and music and streaming. Great phone.
same here, daily driving a 3 year old phone which is samsung galaxy s20 FE 5G which pretty much obliterates most of the dimesity midrange phones of today and seeing online
we have a large community of LG users here in the Philippines that still uses even down to v20 and G5 for the camera and audio quality last time i checked they even have some resellers of velvet 2 selling them in batches which i wanted to get my hands on !
Ugh I wanted that velvet 2 pro ...
As much as I would love to see phones get the same type of coverage, side to side fullscreen benchmarks, performance tests and etc, the amount of people purchasing a phone for productivity reasons and not:
-Android updated and ate half my ram, new android update ruined the camera app
-Google adsense updated and now ads make my phone pitifully slow
-Device wearing out / screen burn in
-They broke their last phone
-Changing carriers with a locked phone
-Lost support for android, antenna hardware getting abandoned
-General upgrade reasons, better screen, camera, battery, performance
-Upgrading to play their favorite game, audio reasons, and other very specific things.
So I'd genuinely imagine most people have a few big reasons why they want another phone, and the rest of the reasons are just to justify buying it / just a plus.
Still got my F11 A2 on me, cracked screen, Laggy, damaged port, viruses. But is still workin load 🤷♂️
I just saw a brand new lg v50 at a dealer around me for about 150 dolls. Brand new with dual screen. I'm selling my Xperia 1 and I'll buy it without hesitation and use it for 3 years or more 😊
Still have one of the first edition of a Huawei phone. Indestructible phone . It never gave up and always works. I thought to uodate , but the quality of iPhones is just horrible. Screens brakes easy , charging port causes many problems , batteries dont last very long , does not work in heat , cold or to much humidity. Never ever i would by an iphone again .
Unfortunately the Huawei brand is boycot by the Canadian government
Juan, what's the best company to buy the phone from? My V50, is a Sprint phone. I see a used V60 from Verizon. Are these any good? Perhaps I could find a decent carrier, if I keep poking around...
When my S23U went under repair, I downgraded to a Note 9 for a couple of days. Of course, the S23U will feel faster overall, but the supposedly now outdated and half a decade old flagship is still mostly usable. Non of those "Android phones lag after 1-2 year" nonsense.
Also, higher performance gains means nothing if the efficiency was subpar, and it can't even sustain its performance and throttling down to previous gen performance. Going from the SD865 to 888 is a proof of that. A single high number on Geekbench on a yet to be announced chipset doesn't really mean much.
Ugh the Nokia 9. I LOVED that phone, but HMD broke my heart with support.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I meant the Galaxy Note 9.
But I also was a former HMD Nokia user, and I get where you're coming from. I had a Nokia 8, fell into the "Nokia is back!" hype, but it was overall underwhelming. Cutting off the 9, and focusing on generic and overpriced budget devices was a massive middle finger to their early fans who had nostalgia for the brand.
I can't go back to cover anything else they do now. I cut the Nokia 9 SO much slack, and they STILL manged to burn me.
Great video ;) I miss my old V20 features...
Yeah. What I wouldn't give for a modern V20... Sigh...
My current iphone is 4 years old and it works like a charm. I plan on using it for a 2-3 years more.
That's the way! Run it until the wheels fall off 👍
Watching this on my LG G8s (European version)!!!This phone holds up quite well in 2023
My LG Wing is still my trusty backup phone (reduces the anxiety of having a Galaxy Fold) and with a Backbone gaming controller it is a great mobile gaming console.
I'm still using my Motorola z3 play with its various moto mods on a regular basis. For some of my uses, it's slow as molasses but overall it has held up fine as my daily driver.
You're easy one of my best tech reviewers I ever came across. Thank you for what you do.
You're being "cute" by only framing this discussion through the lens of a FOMO consumer "needing" bleeding edge tech that they'll never fully utilize. Aim all that snark at OEMs that have historically provided relatively small windows for hardware and software support. I think for many people, having a device that is no longer in warranty and is no longer supported by software updates (which include security updates) is as big a reason to upgrade, regardless of the "tech overhead" still left. If OEMS supported their products longer I guarantee many people would hold onto them longer. Always love your vids!!
And im still using my nova 5t from 2019, a midranger even. Great performance still can game and run most games for 60fps but the camera aged like milk tho
Flossy Carter. Great tech reviewer for average joes like me. Fun to watch.
Great video buddy,,,!