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Let's Talk About Werewolves
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- Опубликовано: 18 авг 2024
- Werewolves are a myth older than even vampires, but what do we really know about them? Gather 'round the fire, and let me tell you a tale.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:39 Origins
08:07 Trials
16:22 The Change
21:54 Remedies of Various Kinds
26:04 Literature
35:07 Film and TV
49:17 Games
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Sites Used:
Mentalfloss.com
historicmysteries.com
justhistoryposts.com
livescience.com
wikipedia.com
peopleofar.com
newworldencyclopedia.org
Books Referenced:
The Origin of the Werewolf Superstition by Caroline Taylor Stewart (1909)
Hugues, the Wer-Wolf by Sutherland Menzies (1838)
Wagner, The Wehr-Wolf by George W. M. Reynolds (1847)
Le Meneur De Loups (The Wolf Leader) by Alexandre Dumas (1857)
The Were-Wolf by Clemence Housman (1884)
The Werewolf of Paris by Guy Endore (1933)
Discworld by Terry Pratchett (1983-2015)
Film & Series Referenced:
The Wolf man (1941)
The Wolfman (2010)
The Howling
The Howling IV
Twilight
Underworld
An American Werewolf in London
Sirius the Jaeger
Ginger Snaps
The Order
Games Mentioned:
The Order: 1886
Dragon Age: Origins
Altered Beast
The Witcher
Sorry this one's so late. I've had to cut, delete and weirdly edit a whole lot of this video for copyright to let me out the cage so it's a little more mangled than I'd like. Next video has no copyrights included though so that should be just fine.
informative thanks
Don't apologise for being late with a video when the video itself turns out this dang good!
Heck, don't apologise for a "late" video at all. It's your channel, the timetable is yours to set! 😊
A lady clad in dog ears, a cozy jacket and pajamas who’s also sort of completely topless. I’ve got no complaints, you go, Miss Jinze!!!
On top of the tastyness of the view... It was actually a genuinely funny joke she pulled on us! :)
Pajamas FTW by the way! o7
I mean I LOVE werewolves, but the bird is right, being a werewolf fan is the Dark Souls of the monster fandoms.
There I did it....
That's the Dark Souls of commentary right there.
Sadly :( , more intresting and huan than vampires. in dark souls
Okay, hear me out:
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. Link transforms into a wolf when he's in the Twilight Realm, is later cursed by Zant to remain in his wolf form, and then later gains the ability to transform at will, no matter what realm he's in. Doesn't that technically classify Link as a werewolf? And does that mean that Twilight Princess could be considered a werewolf game? Even though it's not really about Link's lycanthropy, it is a significant part of it.
You literally just reminded me that I had recorded Link wolf footage and neglected to use it. And yes, a little bit. ^^;
I mean Skyrim/the Elder Scrolls has some pretty decent playable lycanthropy. Sure after a while turning into a Werewolf in Skyrim becomes less efficient in Melee than putting perks into weapons skills and upgrading weapons with blacksmithing but running around as Werewolf tossing guards around and mauling them is fun.
Mods are your friend.
Yeah Werewolves are fun in Skyrim but it’s not really viable to stay as one without mods.
I've always liked how The Elder Scrolls lore handles lycantrophy and vampires
I was also surprised she didn't mention bloodborne
@@MCRF4NthomasTragedy Because that game doesn't "deal" with werewolfery.
They have werewolves but the tragedy of the lycanthroph and it's victims is not central to the game or looked at in greater detail.
Also, she might just not have wanted to repeat herself in the next video.
Just my 2 cents.
If you want a full smorgasbord of werewolves The Dresden Files has four different kinds of, as the books call them, Lupine Theriomorphs.
I know I say it often, I love Underworld. There are so many Dark Souls and you get to know the history of Vampires and Werwolves in this Universe. There are cool fights. Then we get the uber cool Wer-pire Hyprid. Kate Beckinsale slaying foes, in a black latex suit.
Kate Beckinsale, the actual immortal vampire (in real life).
Kate Beckinsale is a national treasure for the whole world.
And she's my second biggest celebrity crush, after the irritatingly perfect Henry Cavil.
I don't get why the giant wolf monsters were always shown as inferior to Vampires. Except in The World Of Darkness, where one Werewolf could comfortably wipe out a whole coterie of Kindred or Kuei Jin
Oh, and I'm personally not a fan of Dark Souls, so I'm not going to work it into my comment and you can't make me.
I was just thinking "I've not seen a bird video in a while...I'm going to watch the last few again now", only to find a new video. Nice.
For me, as a fan of both Spanish horror films and werewolves, Juan Martínez Moreno's Lobos de Arga was such a fun, delightful ride from start to finish. It twists/plays around with many motifs of lycanthropy tales in such a smart way - talented crew who has a very good grasp on the subject - that non-fans probably wouldn't get as much enjoyment from it aside perhaps from the comedic aspect. If you're a fan of werewolves that's in need of a momentary break from the more serious toned, wolfaholic torment-infused flesh-hungry cursed lupine-human mish-mashed blood soaked fur-covered murderous beasts films, I'd recommend sitting back and enjoying Moreno's flick with some popcorn or chocolate; who knows, could be relaxing and maybe bring you smile or three 😊
2:41 the outfit, plus the dignified look.
I am dying!
Werewolves fighting demons for heaven sounds awfully familiar as a Powerwolf fan.
Faoladh is one of the newest songs about that but they got a lot of songs about that.
Ginger Snaps is MAGNIFICENT.
Fun fact: here in Brazil the film was released as "Possuída" (Possessed), which, in association with the cover artwork, implied an idea of a completely different kind of experience, consequently hurting its popularity and obscuring it's true, thoughtful themes. Pathetic move. It's like rereleasing Night of the Living Dead as "Night of the Highly Popular Farmhouse Pajama Party".
Honestly not enough people know about the movie so I hope I can get at least a few more people to watch it here. ^^;
Monster Squad was a movie I loved, and I think one of the first times I've ever seen what happens if a werewolf is 'killed' by a method that wasn't the cliche silver bullet.
Also can you imagine a werewolf like that as a Dark Souls boss? You'd have to hunt down a silver sword to kill it, as every time you depleted its health bar, it would just get back up, refilling the bar.
Like Seath but even worse. :p
Like fire should always work, riight :P
Bloodborne, my friend. Bloodborne.
I didn't even know that there was a 2010 wolfman movie. The remake of Werewolf of London was my first introduction to werewolves, still my favorite werewolf movie.
Btw, because of "people going wild on full moons" more people stay indoors and there's less everything: dining out, car accidents, muggings, etc
Until I watched this video I had no idea how much I didn't know about werewolfery (and I fully approve of and greatly prefer that term too!). Thanks for filling in the huge gaps in my knowledge of this fascinating subject, and as always for your unique and hilarious skits that made a wonderful thing even better! This is a great werewolf video, and I'm really lycan it! :D
I can't believe you managed to find a pun in this. :p
Werewolfery sounds like a really weird moral crime.
Like adultery, but you are betraying humanity with your skin.
Awooo! This is just in time since MTG recently got a new Werewolf set too. Coincidance? Don't think so.
Also, don't worry about being "late" with the videos. Your stories are always worth the wait. Sorry for not being active on your twitch anymore, I'm usually lurking/watching the vods instead (own problems, nothing against you). Hope everything is fine with the 3x/week schedule. :)
The majority of the art used in this video is all Innistrad werewolves actually. :p
Werewolf, show in 1987 was my favorite show and translation of werewolves. Chuck Connors' transformation was awesome for the time, especially on network television.
Glad someone remembers that one 😊
Good grief, you really put the effort in with these videos!
Werewolves have been done dirty in fiction, especially video games. I kind of forced myself to like Werewolf Apocalypse, jut because it was basically all we had... except The Elder Scrolls.
Ah, a fellow soul that loves Underworld as much as I do (although, of course, the first entries are far superior to the later ones)!
Not gonna lie, the Hounds of God sounds like an amazing game/movie/book
I shall keep howling for good Werewolf video games.
Werewolves are cool. I like werewolves. Like ever since I was a kid.
Confession; I have never finished the main game for Morrowind, but I did finish the Bloodmoon expansion, because werewolves!
I also found this really cool show called Cybersix (well cool for 13 year old me) because there is a werewolf episode and a clip of the transformation was on youtube. I think I watched the whole show on youtube to be fair. Though be warned, like the Order it too ended with a cliff-hanger...
...Oh, and before anyone comments, the reason I never finished Morrowind is that same reason I never finished the first Dark Souls (and therefore never got into the Souls series) I just got lost and confused, then frustrated. I wanted to make a joke about the enemies being difficult, but to be fair it's not really the difficulty with Morrowind. It's the dice rolls.
Honestly, I got lost in Morrowind all of the time as well. ^^;
Though i found you through Witcher and FFXIV, these video topics you have been covering have been thoroughly enjoyable Jinzee !
Loving how diverse the topics are and your way of delivering the information, that and the skits, very entertaining :)
As always, keep up the amazing work !
I'm glad to hear it, I'm actually very excited about the next video already!
There's nothing wrong with liking Underworld. It's fun!
The timing of this video is, at least from my perspective, very fortuitous seeing as Magic: The Gatherings newest set, only releasing this week, is themed all around werewolves.
I used a lot of Innistrad werewolves in this video. ^^
Even though its spiritual successor, The Quarry, is the one actually about werewolves, Until Dawn gives a really good example of how you can use a Werewolf if you look at the behaviour of Hannah as a Wendigo.
Who she does and doesn't attack and when she does it are all informed by her character and her relationships pre-transfornstion and you can get a pretty good idea of her personality and how it's been twisted by the curse even though she's a screaming, mostly-feral monster
My favorite line of werewolf "folklore" or Fantasy belief system is the Paladium role playing book/game "Werewolf". The tribes were a really cool idea and the artwork was awesome.
Bigby Wolf actually is a Werewolf. He was born a wolf and then, later, Snow White cursed him with lycanthropy so he could take on human form, rather than use a glamour.
Why not Skyrim? I feel like those might be my favorite Werewolves in gaming that aren't in the game Darkstalkers. Mostly because they're a fun subversion with them having an organization of basically *champions* that work for their community. Its a fair argument that they aren't really allowed to be monstrous though.
Well in the Companions' case is more of a game limitation than them not being monstrous. The design and attack animations are fully monstrous and its implied that Aela and Skjor eat bad guys. Unfortunately beast form for NPCs is locked into cut scenes so Farkas (or Aela if using the Cutting Room Floor) gets one scene to wolf out on the Silver Hand in a perspective that that doesn't exactly give you the best look. I do agree though that Skyrim (sorry Morrowind fans) is the best werewolf game as it checks all the boxes.
All Werewolves types are represented ranging from good, (Companions) tragic, (like Sindling) and evil (random encounter werewolves)
Werewolf hunters (Silver Hand)
Werewolf form is more than wolf than man
The search for a cure trope is here
Player is allowed to become one
Werewolves eat people
Able to howl/roar
Werewolves vs Vampires (Dawnguard)
Honestly, I wish we got more variety in werewolves, like vampires have Daywakers, zombies have Runners and those fungus things from the Last Of Us. That's why I like the comic Wolf Moon, it gives a different look on the beast, the Wolf (as it is referred) is a demon that manifests for the 3 nights of a full moon in one person and then one to another, no biting required. It goes randomly, which makes it so much more terrifying.
Just noticed Werejinzee's pants were covered in bats.
Observational skillz not my forté it seems.
Good catch my eagle-eyed friend, they also say: "I sleep in the dark." 😎
Dear lady Proper Bird you brought me in with princess Cirella, made me laugh with vampires, and feed my enjoyment of werewolves with your werewolf costume. After which I subscribed. You have a subscriber for life. 😁
I feel humbled to find this channel & learning new things
I'm glad I could tell you something new. ^^
"*gasp* Werewolf!" " Werewolf?" "There wolf, there castle."
I'm convinced that Jinzee's costume closet is as vast as the void itself.
A lot of my monthly ko-fi/patreon income goes straight into the prop budget. ^^;
Amazing video, like always! Here in Brazil we have our own tale on how the curse spreads, if a woman had at least 7 daughters, the first boy born would be a werewolf. Similar to what you said at 18:16, maybe some relation? Anyways, I really like your videos, keep the good work!
7 has always been one of those numbers in various media and old folktales and even religion and science, so I'm not surprised it shows its head more often!
I'm glad to find out about your channel. (BTW it was because of the witcher 2 summary or resume, Idk not my native language) You're great, keep it up :) I'll be part of the journey ^^
This one hour video definitely worth waiting 1 month very well made
However i hahad quite the nightmare after watching this just before i went to bed
I love it.
Why does that background music reminds me of wandering around a world map? Great video, by the way.
2:43 tiktok getting to you? 😂 love the fit hahaha
What an amazing video! Thoroughly loved it!!!
I still have a game for the Sega Mega CD called "Wolfchild" from 1993. I've just checked and there's a longplay on youtube if you're interested. The intro was pretty good for it's time and it had a good soundtrack if nothing else.
Comment liked for the emblem of Clan Malkavian.
@@AndrewD8Red Funny thing, I've been dealing with schizophrenia for most of my life, though "officially" for about 20 years or so. When I first played VTM Bloodlines, a game I'm half way through again at the moment, I really enjoyed playing as a Malkavian. For one thing I know exactly what it's like to feel I'm talking normally only for others to react as though I'm talking gibberish. When I found out that in Bloodlines 2 they were going to get all "sensitive" and "respectful" with the Malks I basically gave up hope. These people forget that people with mental illness are capable of being self aware and having a sense of humour about these things. That arguement with the "stop!" sign for example was brilliant. Been there, done that :)
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Oh dang, that got real, but thanks for sharing that, my friend.
Malkavian playthrough is definitely an interesting one, but I personally prefer Tremere.
@@AndrewD8Red One of my favourite lines in the game is when you're dealing with the security guard when playing as a Malk. The "Dementation" option is "Your mind will shatter on the hollowness of your life." I carved that in the Draconic language from Skyrim into a bookcase I made for the local coffee shop. Anyone who takes the time to translate it will get exactly what they deserve :)
The background JRPG music is a vibe
I love it when in media they expand on lycanthopy and have other were creatures such as bears, were cats such in eragon ect
Discovered this channel watching the Onimusha Video. And Damn, You just found a new subscriber. Love these videos very knowledgeable and great to listen through. Also lmaooo Love the Lips popping at 2:25 😂😂 That gave me a little laugh Hahaha
Awesome work as always 👍
John Talbain from Darkstalkers is one of my favourite video game werewolves. Not sure if you're aware of the franchise, but I highly recommend it if you're a fan of both Hollywood monsters and fighting games. You could say that it's the Dark Souls of fighting games.
Love your story telling. Thank you :) New subber
I am still so devastated that the Order just straight up ends with the death of a main character since they coupdnt bring them back in season 3
Re Werewolf: the Apocalypse and Vampire: The Masquerade I think it's worth noting that werewolves are really not the savage lesser in that setting when compared with vampires (Which are just about the least metaphysically significant thing going on.)
I love this video, Pale Bird really does go into all kinds of stories but discounts those who aren't "real" werewolves like we associate with them today, and I shall definitely look up the Order things, shame about a cliffhanger, but as I like to imagine I will one day GM a fantasy game, these stories can be useful, I will definitely give the players a belt of wolfskin that transforms them into a werewolf if something happens, like seriously damaged, or rolls poorly under the moonlight when they are supposed to watch over the camp!
Still working on my 100 year kneeling. Its rough...
Werewolves and Vampires are about even for me. Its too hard for me to choose between them.
Gotta love all those monsters and their Dark Souls...
The belt/pelt thing was news to me, (and a bunch of other stuff too) the only representation of something like that I've seen is, oddly enough, Disenchanted, and it's a woman that wears a bear pelt instead.
I enjoyed the old medical talk. It gets crazier. I'm 32, so when my parents were babies, the Dr's thought they couldn't feel pain...crazy.
It was freakishly recent when medical practice realized that sanitizing your hands would go a long way. A practice hospital that would work on cadavers then deliver babies figured it out.after many mothers died of toxic shock. Then the person who drew the connection was more or less laughed out I believe. Just crazy wild.
Ginger Snaps!!! Great movie, saw it when I was too young lol. I kind of recall the sequel being pretty decent too 🤔
Yay bird is back
Hey really enjoy ur vids and love the ones on the Witcher and I have to say you have a beautiful voice and you made my day when you mentioned altered beast was one of my favorite games and took me back to my days as a youngster welcome to ur doom
Werewolf has a great quest and lore in skyrim where you become a great werewolf in the end and can transform anytime and be a powerful beast. Hell there is a Vampire quest also and you can do both and use both their powers ;-)
A werewolf with a bone to pick.... I giggled.
Well I have to say, I didn't know a much of this. And as a side note, very beautiful even without the eye makeup!
This has made me want to rewatch season 1 of Hemlock Grove on Netflix... only season 1...
Lost my damn mind laughing at "please drop the gun".
I love your mythology videos! Can't believe I've missed this one.
I absolutely love the “Underworld” serie and “Fables”. 😏
Also, did you know that “Harry Potter” serie touches the werewolf subject? I'm not gonna say more because I don't want to spoil anything. 🙂
I try not to give Harry Potter much attention anymore these days. ^^;
@@ProperBird OK, I understand.
I really liked the video. Think you could do one about mermaids and mermen? 🙂
I am sure Bigby is a werewolf since he was formerly known as the Big Bad Wolf, which in the story of Little Red Riding Hood, one of the two fairy tales he was in, he's very commonly seen as a werewolf, especially in modern media, which would explain the bit about him disguising as a human to devour the little girl. Plus, Bigby does have trades that are obviously taken from werewolves, like being weak to silver.
Wasn’t the “testing Zeus by trying to serve your son as food to the gods” story about Tantalus?
That's just yet another story of someone trying to feed Zeus their dead son. A weird amount of people have attempted to feed Zeus their dead offspring, for some reason.
Your vids always rock!! Glad you’re still turning out content. Your Witcher vids kept me sane during long 4am stocking shifts lol. Can’t wait for the next vid. 😊
Great vid and love the Witcher and dark souls reference
Best two werewolf films ever have to be American Werewolf in London tied with Dog Soldiers
I can't believe that you turned the patreon shout outs into werewolf anecdotes. I thought about making a joke about 'did their dark souls really deserve that?' but I mentioned the patreon shout outs, what more evidence do I need to give that I watched to the end?
"Late Phases" is a pretty good movie everybody should check out ...
The beast of Gevaudan is such a fascinating story; big inspiration for a some stories i want to write someday
The underworld franchise may be flawed, and not the pinnacle of anything, but it has so strong atmosphere, vibes, and just.... SOUL that i cant help but live it
Me being a broody prick is only making me like it more
lmao, you do look like you have fun making these videos, it's amazing
Well played with the timing. Since tomorrow night is going to be a full moon.
I knew that and absolutely planned for that, of course.
I love Werewolves!❤❤❤
Amazing video!
Cool werewolf video! 😀
Bigby from the Wolf Among Us is a werewolf though he was a wolf originally. The other fables made him a werewolf so it would be easier to kill him if needed
Technically, Dracula would be the Dracula of Werewolves. He claims to have inspired most of the Werewolf myths in the region, he's called a word meaning Werewolf by those who live near his castle (Stoker says it means both Werewolf and Vampire but it's actually just Werewolf) and he's described as animalistic and hairy, with hairy hands, long nails and a unibrow.
This could also be the source of the myth of lycanthropy spreading through the bite.
i enjoyed that video :3
I love werewolves! So much so that I am determined to write my own book that shows the more monsterious side. I kinda use the tropes that the hot main love interest in books particularly in romances is rewarded for where in actually they are super abusive. That trait is my villain.
Can't work in Dark Souls, I'm afraid, but I do have to give a nod towards the Scourge Beasts in _Bloodborne,_ which fundamentally encapsulate so many of the elements of traditional werewolf stories: the beast as an expression of the primal and violent side of our human natures, the sympathy towards the sufferer who is slowly succumbing to the curse's influence (hi, Gilbert!), even the castigation of the hunter who mindlessly kills beasts while ignoring their fundamental humanity (Djura presents that point quite early in the game, and if you fight the Suspicious Beggar he has a few telling remarks). Unfortunately, because the transformation is one-way and permanent, the vast majority of BB's beasts do not qualify as werewolves (the Suspicious Beggar is the exception--he seems to be able to go back and forth between human form and Abhorrent Beast form at will, going beastly to do a little causal murder and then changing back).
I think there were rituals from Greece you could lay under the full moon with only a wolf pelt to cover yourself and that was suppose to make werewolves.
Did you ever play the original Baldur's Gate? One I nearly forgot (even though I played it recently) was the Tales of the Sword Coast expansion. If you don't know this one your party get shipwrecked on an island that split in two with the Werewolves on one side and the Wolfweres on the other. The difference being that the Werewolves prefer staying more human and the Wolfweres prefer reveling in the wolf side. Same curse, two completely different ways of dealing with it.
So happy to see more
Wished you talked about the Van Helsing movie, it has interesting takes on classic movie monsters
Every time I see your video: oh yeah, I am about to get schooled 🤩
And as per usual, you did not disappoint 😎
On a serious note, your series should be featured on Netflix 🤘
If I remember correctly...Dark Souls had a wolf - the Biggest Best Boi I can imagine :3 Not a werewolf though. But still! "Per definition" you set at the beginning though...sadly the big woofies from Bloodborne do not count as Werewolves, yes?
The video was lovely to watch again and made my day. So to say 'day'...between 3:00 to 4:00. Please do not worry about 'being late' as well - you put much effort and love in those videos - and your skits? They are so super-lovely as well!
Correct, they don't (even though I love them). ^^;
I don't really know dark souls all that well but here's a dark souls pun that I'm not sure if it's all that good. _What do you call an Antarctic Lord of Light?_
*Pen-Gwyn* (Also the cut to commercial was great and I love that John actually made a terrible video game suggestion about werewolves).
I'm going to tell Gwyn you made that pun when I punch him in the face (again).
this is the dark souls of werewolf videos
If you want to play as a werewolf, the N64 game Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness is the answer.
Sad it didn't even get a quick mention in this video 😔
Werewolf mythos is about as convoluted as the dark souls timeline
You should do werewolf apocalypse lore
Hungry like the wolf.
Bro i just typed werewolf and im not disappointed
In Vampire Masquerade universe the werewolves are very strong and very hard to kill and they completely rule the rural areas forcing vampires to the cities. An average vampire can't kill a werewolf in 1vs1 combat so vampires avoid werewolves.
Yeah, kinda sucks that the only WtA mention is the "Earthblood" game, because the story and lore and actual RPG is significantly deeper that that game. However, I suppose including the WtA RPG would make this video 10 hours long
@@Dragoonv I considered it but yes it would've made the video too long. My computer's limit on rendering size is 1 hour exactly. 😬
@@ProperBird Yeah, I kinda realized it would literally have to be it's own video
I love your videos Proper Bird you are awesome!
Werewolf: the Apocalypse - Heart of the Forest is petty good.
I'm surprised you never mentioned their presence in TTRPGs. Werewolves have a far reaching presence there.
You forgot about Van Helsing movie with Wolverine.
I didn't forget but this is a 1 hour long video already, I can't include every werewolf in the history of ever unfortunately.