Let's Talk About Fae
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Fae, fairies, fay folk, the good folk, the kind folk, they have so many names and yet we know very little about them. Who are the Fae? Where did they come from? What are they exactly? And why are they all hot in today's fiction. Let's talk about that.
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Sarah: “It bit me!”
Hoggle: “What did you expect fairies to do?”
Sarah: “I thought they did nice things! Like granting wishes.”
Hoggle: “Shows what you know, don't it.” (Proceeds gassing faries with bug spray.)
Labyrinth is still a great movie.
Oh, I know about the whole "autistic changelings" thing! Cuz I'm autistic, and I really like fantasy stories. I personally love the idea that I'm actually a magical creature. I guess it's easier to think that way when you're living in a time where you won't get burned alive or left to die in the woods for it, though.
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I agree if we autistic people clearly aren't normal we must have some ties to the supernatural. However I also glad l don't live in the past where they would burn "witches and evil fae"
I would say that there is a movie that shows the fae in an accurate way:The spiderwick chronicles. There were brownies, hobgoblins, changelings, elves and the accompanying field guide published had drawings that are often used as background photos in videos like yours.
What I learned from this video, messing with fairies can be a faetal mistake.
I can't believe you've done this.
@@ProperBird I am pretty sure I have done exactly what you could have anticipated me to do.
The Fae do play a HUGE part in the Dresden Files series of novels, including them encompassing a large and varied plethora of different creatures.
I've always loved the sheer *concept* of the Fae, they're just a wildcard in any plot.
For any DMs, if you want a plotline or event to occur and you can't justify it - A Fae Did it.
1. Why? We can never truly understand the Fae. 2. No but to such extent? Fae think outside of mortal limits 3. Seriously why?? They were bored/annoyed and left unattended.
*19:45** Good. Atleast they have good taste.*
A someone who writes stories and want to do one with Fae yet am scared to start because there's a lot to them, this was the best video to help ease my nerves and learn more new stuff about them
Hope the writing goes well!
Okay my only addition is my favorite line "Not for thy fairy kingdom - Fairies away" it doesn't even need context it is just gold.
Fae always have to be a little bit extra
There's an old PS3 game called Folklore, which is set in Ireland. It's more about spirits and the afterlife, but there are fairies in it.
Love hearing about folk lore, like fae, fairies, werewolves and many more, especially the way you tell and explain the history behind those stories. Thank you.
You mentioned about 1+ hour videos.
I do love the longer videos, but I tend to have to watch them in umpteen parts thanks to my stupid work schedule at the stupid hospital.
These half an hour videos are ideal for me personally.
Also, Witcher III In A Nutshell video when, please...?
The Witcher I and The Witcher II videos were absolutely hilarious and I love them.
Witcher 3 in a nutshell would probably still be a very large nutshell, but I'll think about it. 😂
@@ProperBird
That thought did cross my mind. 50 hours of Witcher I and 30 hours of Witcher II can be condensed relatively easily (says me, who's never done it 😬) but my most complete playthrough of the Witcher III ran at 310 hours.
That's going from a peanutshell to a coconutshell.
If anyone can do it, it's you.
I admit that I never cared too much about fae/fairy creatures, until I discovered the RPG nook Changeling: The Dreaming. The book not only has interesting lore on each of the playable creatures, but the book itself is an incredible work of art that I'd recommend to anyone that like fae, rpg, or simply creative drawings. I never got to play it, but there's a ton of potential in it.
Fae creatures and the Seeli and unseeli court are still very much a thing in D&D. If you were looking for games that have fae creatures :)
@ProperBird >>> *_"These Fae f*ck."_*
*_"Simple, direct, and appropriate."_*
*-- FRAGGLE ROCK* 😉
"That's rough buddy."
Full snort. Well played.
Never miss an opportunity. 😌
Undertale - a bunch of various "monsters" forced by their enemy to live underground is a very fae game
There are some fun armchair anthropological theories about the origins of the fae and various of their quirks. For example, the weakness to cold iron could be tied back to the success and rise to dominance of iron-using cultures in the bronze-to-iron transition. Or there's the ancient traditions of hospitality that mean that sharing food with someone means neither of you is allowed to harm the other (for a limited period), which could explain a weakness to bread.
Favorite storyteller returns
Bit sad the Changeling TTRPGs or the October Daye novels weren't mentioned, but I suppose somethings must be left out to keep these videos manageable xDD
Awesome as usual, Jinzee. Looking forward to the next!
If you are interested in video games with fae in it, I would recommend Kingdom of Amalur. Your character is a mortal elf or human, but the immortal Seelie and Unseelie are central to the entire story. It's a well regarded RPG that got a remake recently.
I played it! ^^
One of the RPGs you can play in the World of Darkness (that Vampire the Masquerade is part of) is one where you play a human kidnapped and replaced by a Fae. I've never played it so I can't speak to the mechanical side but I like the concept so much.
Your voice is so soothing, not gonna lie 😂
Thank you ^^
If you are looking for modern fae stories, I highly recommend several books by Gene Wolfe. They run the gamut from other worldly to Arthurian and are fabulously written. These include:
The Knight and The Wizard (a duology)
There are Doors
Castleview
The Sorcerer's House
As a bonus he was best buds with Neil Gaiman. Wolfe wrote the intro to one of the Sandman books. I also have a signed copy of "A Walking Tour of the Shambles", which they co-authored.
I'll definitely look those up!
@@ProperBird Hope you enjoy his stuff as much as I have if you end up checking him out. Always a delight to see a new video from you in my feed!
Only video game I can think of that's about fae is Folklore, a very good but fairly obscure RPG for the PS3. It's basically what happens when someone takes traditional Celtic myths about the fae and crosses that with Pokemon and turns into a dungeon crawler. A game I would definitely recommend...if it wasn't so hard to find these days
There's always emulation!
For modern books/games, D&D has a pretty wide range of fae lore and I've heard Dresden Files delves into it as well.
Finally got around to viewing this, it's been on my to do list!
I love how so many solutions/protections were commonly found items, because ya know, you had to make them accessible to the peasants. Salt, bread, church items that the church conveniently sold, kitchen utensils, iron, etc. All things you'd likely find around the village or in your own home.
Love the final fantasy 8 music in the background!!!!
even when I zone out and loose track of what your saying, your voice is so soothing
Thank you ^^
A Proper Bird video? What a rare, yet exceedingly pleasant surprise!
Great video as always, Jinzee! 😃 I love folklore! Your take on things is always thoughtful and I could listen to you read a stack of user manuals. 💜
Thanks for this neat fae video!
i'm absolutely addcited to this channel. i wish i'd have more time
Fascinating 🧚♀️. Thank you
Jinz! I love your videos. I finally figured out your intro music. It was pushing some unknown nostalgia button in my heart/brain, bringing back happy and contented feelings. FF8 was one of the best gaming experiences of my young life :) Thanks again for your great videos and the impromptu trips down memory lane! :D
Blue Fields is my happy place!
Thanks so much for the enjoyable video Jinzee
Hadn't noticed, but congrats on the 100k subs! Definitively well deserved
Thank you!
Both Labyrinth (goblin king steals baby) and Pan's Labyrinth (Del Toro) have interesting fae vibes.
Folklore for PS3 Is a very nice game that drinks from irish mythology and present Fae on a more unusual, non-Disney way. Can't recommend it enought.
Pizza with pineapple is awesome! Especially with ham. No barbecue sauce please, that's a bit odd.
Good video!
Thank you for this! Been trying to study some of stories of the fae and this helps
My pleasure, thank you for watching!
@@ProperBird of course! Always love your content
Also, and I may have mentioned this before but forgot...
If you haven't seen the 1982 animated movie "The Flight of Dragons" then put it on the Trust Me You'll Like It list. It goes into some of the things you covered before and is about the nature of Magic and belief. It has James Earl Jones voicing the villain. (It also still makes me cry at the end every time, even after 30 years.)
You know creator is top notch quality when even if you do not know anything about the topic nor ever shown interest in it, you will still come and check the video because it will be a masterpiece, thank you for turning me into a video snob Jinze 😎😄
Ahaha, thank you ❤️
The music in the background sometimes reminds me of something, a point and click game but I am not sure which one.
Sorry ... going off topic ... pretty good expose you have there. It's impressive to see how those stories were used to ellicit obediance at the time.
During my face footage? Because that's Final Fantasy 8, Blue Fields.
today i learned i am a goblin therefore i am a fae
Just remember that goblin your food is bad for your elf...
One of the nice, helpful goblins 😌
“Gather 'round the fire and let me tell you a tale.” has become my cue to get comfortable in my armchair. 😌
Lol I'm here because you're so much more than the Witcher, it's just lucky to find that you yearn to learn & share.
Thank you for sticking around!
You really should read The Broken Sword by Poul Anderson for some amazing depictions of the fae. It's a sort-of anti-Tolkien novel that coincidentally happened to release the same year as the first LotR book. It starts with a changling stealing a baby from a family in the Danelaw and goes from there.
Boy, did D&D take A LOT for 5e, with the Seelie and Unseelie and all that
I WOULD SACRIFICE SO MANY HUMANS FOR WHOEVER THAT IS AT 10:50
Oko my boy ❤️
Proper Bird's excellent acting and presenting chops are wasted on YT. But I'm glad they're on YT... yes it's contradictory, ok.
I've started playing another old favourite of mine that you might like. It's a PS1 JRPG called "Guardian's Crusade". You have a Fairy (called Nehani) who follows you around and gives you advice, you're escorting and looking after a baby monster that loks like a mini pink hippo-bunny-dragon and your extra party members are made up of living clockwork toys that you find on the way. It's a really cute but solid rpg.
I just finished it for the first time in about 20 years. I cried. A lot...
I think Baby summed it up when he said: "Splurk! Oik oik, plugdidledidle."
Maybe you had to be there...
Thank you
I'm surprised you didn't mention Changeling the Dreaming and Lost in the bit about games and movies about the fae, you strike me as the sort to be familiar with White Wolf products. Changeling the Lost was how I heard of the Wild Hunt, because in a game about playing as the people who had been taken by the fae to Fairyland and managed to escape back to Earth, calling the Wild Hunt was one of the gravest sins you could commit.
11:53 Why do I get the sensation that I have seen that scene on Berserk? Or at least the part about the entrails going around trees sounds familiar.
Berserk has a lot of entrail related imagery to be fair.
Ah, Oko. The snack that brings the snacks 😍🤤😍
Also, I'm sure you've seen the Canadian TV series 'Lost Girl', all about the Fae?
I have not!
*_"It likes pineapple on pizza."_*
Gary B. from the _Nerdrotic_ YT channel has entered the comments...😉
And now we have a TV show about fae called FROM.
Damn you got snotty girl glow up, love it
I know you are being Culturally and Historical, but to most this does feel like a FAQ for both Butcher, and Giamon.
do you have any other videos on the fae/fairies?
I am fascinated by whatever happened to that women involving the lightning, perhaps there was some massive discharge in energy for some reason and she happened to be in the center of it
Anyone who's interested in fae related stories should check out The Dresden Files, they check just about every box for classic fae and Butcher makes great use of those traits to creates some of the most interesting morally grey characters in any media with the winter court. Except "morally grey" doesn't fit, they're more... on the sideline of morality?
Why the heck do I think that you (Jinzee) and the host of Mythology and Fiction Explained would make a decent and interesting colab duo?
Labyrinth movie is definitely about the Fae
David Bowie was basically a Fae in real life to be honest
I have a glyph for the Sidhe on my upper left arm 💚
*_"Do you have any children?"_*
🤭🤭🤭
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Fairy led, reverse clothes.
May I drop in to recommend to the "fae are not nice" inclined people Lords and Ladies or The Wee Free Men - it deals with Fae/elves in a, well very Pratchett way.
(I mean, all Discworld books are always recommendable. Go, get them while they still haven't been made cool by a series. (We don't talk about the series that does already exist...))
Have you played or seen Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning? If you haven't you should check that one out. The Tuatha Deohn are some of the main villains and it has R.A. Salvatore creating the game world and Todd Mc Farlane working on the art. I'd be surprised if you haven't heard of those two. :)
I did play Amalur! It was buggy and unfinished at the time though, unfortunately.
@@ProperBird Give it another try if you find the time. I think you'd like the lore, though if you don't have time to play it then at least look up some of the poetry and stories left on the lorestones by the Summer and Winter courts. :)
I always am hit hard with the final fantasy 8 world music.
FF8 is a great game and I will stand by that forever ❤️
@@ProperBird It did grow on me over the years
Do you know a good live action or animated TV show with faes? More accurate to the more unhinged version.
Note, I already know for Gargoyles.
She's pretty awesome, isn't she.
Thought this was gonna be a magic the gathering deck list lol
Oddly enough torchwood has a good episode on fairies.
And i like lot girl like they are baically people but still have the "light " side and dark side and them messing nd not caring about people. The its basically all supernatural. I think it captures enough of it.
Changeling babies had _SHARP TEETH?_
I bet _INFANT NURSING_ was an _UNWELCOME EXPERIENCE._ 😉
Oh man art is censored in that picture at 6:20. I like how the Fae were heavily influenced by Christianity and not complying and playing your role in serf society meant that they would tear you apart. This was all about power and maintaining the status quo by those in power.
RUclips would've slapped the uncensored version 💀
IT'S A JINZEEEEE
It's a Cooooole!
twisted wonderland has a lot of fae stuff
Sooo...Aliens.
1. Oh of course the Jesus folk came in to complicate matters!
2. Workers would likely be better off if the Fae replaced Jeff Bazos.
3. Gold star and a sticker for using panels from Sandman, Jinzee.
4. ...Orgies you say?
5. Peter Pan sounds dark as shit, man! No wonder why A.C. Wise wanted to do adult retellings.
6. Can't help but think about that Torchwood episode that centered around Fae and how their existence in the Doctor Who universe is far from the weirdest shit they've put out.
7. Any thoughts on the comic series Fables? Bill Willingham's questionable worldviews and attitudes have come under reevaluation over the past few years with emphasis placed on how said views crept into his most well known series.
8. "Literally a sugar baby"
9. Autism equaled fae apparently
10. A future video on exorcisms might be cool if admittedly depressing in places.
11. VAMPIRE FAIRIES!!!
12. "These fae fuck!"
13. Keep on rocking the blue hair!
I read parts of Fables and played Wolf Among Us, enjoyed both but didn't dig very deep admittedly.
Neat! The impression that I got after doing some casual internet research is that it’s one of those properties that was hugely popular when it came out but as time went on people started to think “oh wait, that was a weird moment or five”. Not to mention that Willingham made an ass of himself at a convention panel a few years ago and one can easily find reports on it.
@@sebastianevangelista4921 Oof yeah that's weird, not haha weird either but oh no weird. 😬
@@ProperBird Yep!
@@ProperBird wolf what
Garlic helps with the Cancers
"...because I know half of you are here because I can't shut up about the Witcher" ...mea culpa
The thing I don't like is how much catholic beliefs integrated into these truly unique stories. I want to know more about the fae before it was muddled by catholicism.
Hot?
Well, if you are into having your skin flayed to serve as a canvas or like dancing yourself to death or being enslaved to the whims of an utterly alien being maybe.
That is how they are usually portrayed in most stuff I see, though I have been called a hipster before, for reasons.
The ttrpg shadow of the demon lord is a great example for this. Don't mess with fae people!
From now on I will always carry a loaf of bread with me for protective reasons UwU
Salted bread!
People used to call me a "germophobe" but I sat on a puppy too hard when I was about 3, so... I know a woman who needs a ride to Jerusalem. Someone had to play "advocate" one more time before Judgement Day, and it had to be a person of certain lineages. I exist for a reason, and I'm already in my 40s. Hell needs closure, imo. We're tired of dead loved-ones. We want them back. Amen? God's name is YHWH Yehovah, and His Son in Heaven is Yeshua, Jesus Christ of Nazareth, who died on the Mount of Olives to save us all from Hell. Wake up. It's 4/18/2024, humans, etc. We were instructed to read the Bible and pray. Do you say HIS NAME? Yeshua. KING of kings and LORD of lords. AMEN. 🎉 HE TOLD US TO REPENT.
And "don't draw blood on people." What were we told about blood and " power"? Childhood second-hand smoke from adults, and then I started socially smoking in my teens. I got into "grunge music" and learned the meaning of the word, " catharsis". Oops. On a positive note... I love 🐸 frogs. I find them cute. I used to catch them as a kid.
Realized I hadn't seen a vid from you in a while. Not sure if you pissed off the RUclips marionette crew, but thought I'd let you know, you haven't been in my feed despite my having been subbed for years. 🥴
I'm not surprised unfortunately, I upload irregularly and usually only monthly. RUclips doesn't like either of those things. 😬
@@ProperBird Their loss.
I miss you 😘
Lol😂 cute. The Fea wer around way befor Christianity...in the vikking culture.
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I enjoy being a wingless fay in the world of men... thought the allergies caused by human spread toxins in the environment are a bit much to deal with.
As always a fabulous lore video going into great depth. Thankyou for in A way a great story, considering you'd be great at audio book story telling. Still think Koudelka is underated as a classic, same for pararaite eve 1.
Study our historical history, learn.
Not sure what proper bird is however is it possible for anyone to contribute ( as her royal highness would say) we are not amused 😒
Dear, Samhain is pronounced sah-whayne
3 seconds ago…..damn I’m fast
Fae are Jewish?