At the end of the video I talk about what I'll be testing next. My discount codes for Amazon prime are in the description below. I test both DELTA PRO machines against 120 V and 240 V Lincoln wire welder. I also tested against a WATER HEATER and a 2.5 Ton HEAT PUMP. At the end of the video I talk about what I'll be testing next.
I have been waiting for someone to do this comparison test between these two units. I have 2 original Delta Pros with the dual voltage hub to get 240V connected a transfer switch for home back up. So the upgrade for me would be the DPU. GOOD JOB!!!!!
Awesome video I just bought my pro 3 and extra battery plus eco flow smart panel 2 last night I hope it will run most of the house during blackouts in the future.
This is a great video. Well describing the differences at a top level. I have been looking at the DPU and it seems more in the ballpark with my battery backup whole house idea I have. I like the watts rating, just don’t like the solar inputs. I am trying to decide if I go with a ECO Flow appliance or discrete components with an inverter such as Sol-Ark or EG4, etc. My initial idea was to go completely off grid and not rely on the Texas power grid. I have looked at the cost of that it is high, and I am now considering a backup with batteries and a generator for the batteries in a grid down scenario. Thanks again for your great video. All the best from north Texas!
I have a GenMax 9000 plugged into the 240 charge port and the 240 outlet hooked up to my transfer switch. I can set it to charge at the full 7200 watts but I only have it set to 5000 watts charge. I run 4000 watts of solar that allows me to run my house with the heat pump all day. At night or heavy cloudy days I can start the generator and in a couple of hours be charged back up. Yes I can still use the 240 outlet while charging with 240.
I was gonna show some side-by-side pictures, but I think you got the point. The ultra is one bad boy but that Delta pro 3 is pretty sweet too. Just depends on how many watts you need.
@@HVACRSurvival Im planning on getting one to power an office shed daily, its pre-wired with a transfer switch subpanel. Biggest load is a 9k mini split. Also to use as back up emergency power for the main house. Noise was the biggest issue with the last Delta Pro, I could go DPU or DP3 now but I’m also factoring inverter efficiency. Keeping a 7000 watt inverter idle must consume a lot of power when overnight all I need to run in the shed is a small dorm size fridge.
Great video, thanks. How do you think Teslas new aluminum_ion batteries will change things? Will they be compatible with the current batteries? Is it wise to wait on the new batteries to phase in before building a system? Thanks
These aren’t compatible with other brands. The battery has circuitry in it that makes it proprietary to EcoFlow. I haven’t done much with the Tesla stuff so I can’t really tell you who’s got the better battery. All I know is the EcoFlow stuff works as it’s rated.
Rick Thank you, I always wondered about not having Solar power. So my question is when you go to charge the units can I use. L-30 NEMA cord to charge from gas Gen to the Ultra or the Delta 3. Also can I use a gas or propane small inverter generator to charge using above cord. Thank you. I would be using these products in a summer home where electricity is very expensive.
Yes you can charge either the DPU or DP3 with the L-30 plug if you get the adapter from EcoFlow. That will allow faster charging than the 120v wall plug.
I see you are using doubled up 15 amp circuit breakers in the SHP2. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but are they called a double throw single pole breaker? I have GE older 15 & 20 amp single breakers installed in my SHP2. I realize each quadrant is limited to 60 amps draw with the assigned breaker. I love how you installed the SHP2,with a 2 inch pipe
Excelente produto, vocês estão de parabéns. Produto de alta qualidade, resistência e um designer super futurista! Ecoflow, não sou nenhum influenciador, mas faz-me uma doação de um produto seu, pode ser o Delta 2 ou River 2 pro. Tenho muitos problemas com energia na minha região e não tenho condições de adquirir um ecoflow. Fico muito grato e aguardando atenciosamente seu retorno.
Whenever I hook both of them up to the Smart panel, one of them gets rejected. I can’t remember if I was able to charge the rejected station? I’ll have to recheck but the fact that you can’t run both of them I feel is kind of something they should’ve figured out by now. I’m sure it has something to do with the battery capacity difference in the two different units, but surely could’ve been taken care of software.
The phone app for the DPU with 2 batteries indicates battery temperatures ranging from 98 to as high as 111 F. Right now they say 104 and 99. They are charged to 90% and drawing no input wattage and no output. The ambient temp is 86. I emailed Ecoflow support who replied basically not to worry about it, indicating it was normal. I was wondering if you or anybody else have similar temp readings on your DPU batteries.
I haven’t noticed it running warm. Gotta remember the batteries are inside the unit with a lot of other things going on. They likely will get warm if pulling power from them.
i noticed on your SHP2 that you didn't move any neutrals for the circuits into the panel. isn't that required? i want to put this panel at my house but that mess of re-wiring is making me rethink.
@@HVACRSurvival hmm good to know. I thought for sure all conductors had to be at the point of disconnect but this would be ideal for me since all my wiring is buried in the wall. Minimal drywall damage!
Hey sir, thanks so much for the knowledge. I was wondering, much does installing a generator inlet box cost in a roundabout figure. I live in California and have been wanting to have one installed.
Probably $1-$1500 now, I was quoted 750-1000 a few years ago from licensed electricians. You can also do an interlock which is less labor. It turns the entire panel to generator power. But you have to tell everyone in the house to not exceed the generator.
@rob California everything’s more money. Around here you might have $150-$250 in it. It depends on how many feet of wire they need to use and how difficult it is to run that wire.
@@HVACRSurvival thank you so much for at least giving me a ballpark and some of the factors that contribute. I’ll plan for at least twice that amount with the California premium in mind.
@@robmccune7949 I had a union electrician do it for $250 due to scheduling but that’s someone I trust with my home and family safety. I personally wouldn’t have a handyman do it.
I know you can’t with the smart home panel 2 as of now so I would speculate the answer would be no due to the unequal power capacity. Try emailing EcoFlow, if you have any problems getting an answer let me know and I’ll reach out to my contact.
I was originally told it would, but unfortunately, they have not figured out how to make it work. I’m assuming it has something to do with the capacity difference of the DP3 being lesser
Mine is a 3/4hp well and it doesn’t phase it. The ultra has a surge of 10kw area. It’s impressive. Until these two power stations came out there wasn’t anything I could use without building a system that would be large and a hassle.
Hi Rick, great video. I left you a comment/question three weeks ago but I didn’t see a reply. It’s probably because it was so long. Can the Delta pro ultra or the Dp3 do a power switch between grid power and battery power without shutting off refrigerators and small portable air conditioners unfortunately my old Delta pro could not do it. Really would appreciate a reply. Prefer to stay within the Ecoflow ecosystem if possible.
I thought I showed in the video the smart home panel 2 transfer switch has a 20 ms transfer speed? If you have the appliances that you’re wanting powered by the two devices you just mentioned then yes it will switch right over, as a matter effect. We just had our power shut off for maintenance and it switched over and we didn’t even know it and it just switched back an hour later. This is assuming that you have the Smart home panel 2 installed. If you have anything else, then no you’re gonna have to plug it into the device and it’ll work the way I described in the video.
from what i understand, if you connect 2 DPUs to the SHP2.0, there'll be 14KW available of continuous power. does this mean that if I have a load of say 9 kw, would this still be fine even if a DPU is rated 7kw?
When you combine two DPU units together you’re correct, 7200w x 2=14,400 watts. You’ll have the full 14,400 watts to run a load up to that rating. Surge watts is 10kw each totaling 20kw
you mentioned the dpu can do 21.6 kwh which is not accurate. 1 dpu can only do 7200 wh. but you can connect 3 of them to a smart panel to get up to 21.6kwh :)
the majority of standard electric dryers run a single element and control the temperature, by cycling with a small heater built into the cycling thermostat. later models would have temp and mositure sensors that cycle via a relay. the newest stuff out there, god only knows. 🤣
@@HVACRSurvival yeah, the motors in them can be power hungry on start up, especially with a heavy wet load. they are centrifugal start switch and capacitor type(sometimes cap. is at motor, others up in control box). that same switch also brings on element power, assuming the settings and thermostats are all closed calling for heat. so it pretty much goes from high motor start current instantly to element on full current draw as it's just finished starting.
Sorry I just cannot help myself... you are pointing at the DP3 and calling it DPU, and at other times you are pointing at the DPU but calling it DP3 instead. LOL! Maybe just stick with Ultra and the Three next time? ;-)
At the end of the video I talk about what I'll be testing next. My discount codes for Amazon prime are in the description below. I test both DELTA PRO machines against 120 V and 240 V Lincoln wire welder. I also tested against a WATER HEATER and a 2.5 Ton HEAT PUMP. At the end of the video I talk about what I'll be testing next.
I have been waiting for someone to do this comparison test between these two units. I have 2 original Delta Pros with the dual voltage hub to get 240V connected a transfer switch for home back up. So the upgrade for me would be the DPU. GOOD JOB!!!!!
I like the DPU a lot. It’s real power. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video I just bought my pro 3 and extra battery plus eco flow smart panel 2 last night I hope it will run most of the house during blackouts in the future.
It depends on what kind of loads, starting watts and the total watt load. But it does what it’s rated for. You should be fine if you conserve
100% thanks. This is tue comparison most people have wanted.
Awesome to hear. Thank you!
Very informative, great job!
Thank you! 🙏
This is a great video. Well describing the differences at a top level. I have been looking at the DPU and it seems more in the ballpark with my battery backup whole house idea I have. I like the watts rating, just don’t like the solar inputs. I am trying to decide if I go with a ECO Flow appliance or discrete components with an inverter such as Sol-Ark or EG4, etc. My initial idea was to go completely off grid and not rely on the Texas power grid. I have looked at the cost of that it is high, and I am now considering a backup with batteries and a generator for the batteries in a grid down scenario. Thanks again for your great video. All the best from north Texas!
I have a GenMax 9000 plugged into the 240 charge port and the 240 outlet hooked up to my transfer switch. I can set it to charge at the full 7200 watts but I only have it set to 5000 watts charge. I run 4000 watts of solar that allows me to run my house with the heat pump all day. At night or heavy cloudy days I can start the generator and in a couple of hours be charged back up. Yes I can still use the 240 outlet while charging with 240.
@@j4fcowboy That sounds like a nice setup 👍👍
Great Review Sir.
@@silentmajority5657 thank you very much much!
Thanks for doing the welding machine test.
Were you the one that asked for it?
Well done video, thank you.
Thank you! 🙏
Great video. Can you provide an estimate for the smart panel installation? Just looking for a ballpark. I’m interested in buying it
That would be something for a local contractor to answer for you. Price varies all over the country from $75 an hour to $300 an hour.
@ tried to find a local installer but I have yet to find someone familiar with Anker products and how to install them
Great video!
Thank you! 🙏
Awesome video
Thank you!
What a massive size difference between the DPU and DP3
I was gonna show some side-by-side pictures, but I think you got the point. The ultra is one bad boy but that Delta pro 3 is pretty sweet too. Just depends on how many watts you need.
@@HVACRSurvival Im planning on getting one to power an office shed daily, its pre-wired with a transfer switch subpanel. Biggest load is a 9k mini split. Also to use as back up emergency power for the main house. Noise was the biggest issue with the last Delta Pro, I could go DPU or DP3 now but I’m also factoring inverter efficiency. Keeping a 7000 watt inverter idle must consume a lot of power when overnight all I need to run in the shed is a small dorm size fridge.
Would the DP3 with the dual voltage hub would be able to handle the 45 amps draw?
AWESOME VIDEO 🎉
Two dp3 would be 4k+4k=8kw / 120v = 66 amps or 33 amps at 240v.
Great video, thanks.
How do you think Teslas new aluminum_ion batteries will change things? Will they be compatible with the current batteries? Is it wise to wait on the new batteries to phase in before building a system? Thanks
These aren’t compatible with other brands. The battery has circuitry in it that makes it proprietary to EcoFlow. I haven’t done much with the Tesla stuff so I can’t really tell you who’s got the better battery. All I know is the EcoFlow stuff works as it’s rated.
Rick Thank you, I always wondered about not having Solar power. So my question is when you go to charge the units can I use. L-30 NEMA cord to charge from gas Gen to the Ultra or the Delta 3. Also can I use a gas or propane small inverter generator to charge using above cord.
Thank you.
I would be using these products in a summer home where electricity is very expensive.
Yes you can charge either the DPU or DP3 with the L-30 plug if you get the adapter from EcoFlow. That will allow faster charging than the 120v wall plug.
I see you are using doubled up 15 amp circuit breakers in the SHP2. Please correct me if I’m wrong, but are they called a double throw single pole breaker? I have GE older 15 & 20 amp single breakers installed in my SHP2. I realize each quadrant is limited to 60 amps draw with the assigned breaker. I love how you installed the SHP2,with a 2 inch pipe
Thank you! I believe what you’re asking is correct.
Excelente produto, vocês estão de parabéns. Produto de alta qualidade, resistência e um designer super futurista! Ecoflow, não sou nenhum influenciador, mas faz-me uma doação de um produto seu, pode ser o Delta 2 ou River 2 pro. Tenho muitos problemas com energia na minha região e não tenho condições de adquirir um ecoflow. Fico muito grato e aguardando atenciosamente seu retorno.
Can i charge up the dp3 from the grid as the dpu can while connected to the SHP2?
Whenever I hook both of them up to the Smart panel, one of them gets rejected. I can’t remember if I was able to charge the rejected station? I’ll have to recheck but the fact that you can’t run both of them I feel is kind of something they should’ve figured out by now. I’m sure it has something to do with the battery capacity difference in the two different units, but surely could’ve been taken care of software.
Can I charge the battery on the DPU and DP3 with a gas powered generator or gas powered inverter without damaging the DPU/DP3
Yes as long as it’s clean power and in tolerance.
I got the delta pro 3 with extra battery
Awesome! It does a great job, I’m sure you’ll like it
Can you add an extra battery to DP3 to help offset the power to run the water heater?
Yes up to two extra battery’s.
The phone app for the DPU with 2 batteries indicates battery temperatures ranging from 98 to as high as 111 F. Right now they say 104 and 99. They are charged to 90% and drawing no input wattage and no output. The ambient temp is 86. I emailed Ecoflow support who replied basically not to worry about it, indicating it was normal. I was wondering if you or anybody else have similar temp readings on your DPU batteries.
I haven’t noticed it running warm. Gotta remember the batteries are inside the unit with a lot of other things going on. They likely will get warm if pulling power from them.
Does it change if I have two DP3'S? Would it run the water heater?
That would double your output.
i noticed on your SHP2 that you didn't move any neutrals for the circuits into the panel. isn't that required? i want to put this panel at my house but that mess of re-wiring is making me rethink.
I ran 2 AWG neutral and 2 hot legs. Plus ground. There’s no need to loop the neutral from the original box over to the other box and then back again.
@@HVACRSurvival hmm good to know. I thought for sure all conductors had to be at the point of disconnect but this would be ideal for me since all my wiring is buried in the wall. Minimal drywall damage!
Consult a local electrician to make sure your area is not different. We’re not inspected here and there’s nothing unsafe about it in my book.
Hey sir, thanks so much for the knowledge. I was wondering, much does installing a generator inlet box cost in a roundabout figure. I live in California and have been wanting to have one installed.
Probably $1-$1500 now, I was quoted 750-1000 a few years ago from licensed electricians. You can also do an interlock which is less labor. It turns the entire panel to generator power. But you have to tell everyone in the house to not exceed the generator.
@rob California everything’s more money. Around here you might have $150-$250 in it. It depends on how many feet of wire they need to use and how difficult it is to run that wire.
@@HVACRSurvival thank you so much for at least giving me a ballpark and some of the factors that contribute. I’ll plan for at least twice that amount with the California premium in mind.
@@TobyCostaRica thank you so much, that is likely what I will do.
@@robmccune7949 I had a union electrician do it for $250 due to scheduling but that’s someone I trust with my home and family safety. I personally wouldn’t have a handyman do it.
Can you link an Ultra and DP3 together with the dual hub to get 11.2Kw?
I know you can’t with the smart home panel 2 as of now so I would speculate the answer would be no due to the unequal power capacity. Try emailing EcoFlow, if you have any problems getting an answer let me know and I’ll reach out to my contact.
Do both work if the delta pro ultra and delta pro 3 are plugged into the smart home panel 2 at the same time?
I was originally told it would, but unfortunately, they have not figured out how to make it work. I’m assuming it has something to do with the capacity difference of the DP3 being lesser
Can the Ultra power a 1hp well pump and handle the initial power surge?
Mine is a 3/4hp well and it doesn’t phase it. The ultra has a surge of 10kw area. It’s impressive. Until these two power stations came out there wasn’t anything I could use without building a system that would be large and a hassle.
Hi Rick, great video. I left you a comment/question three weeks ago but I didn’t see a reply. It’s probably because it was so long. Can the Delta pro ultra or the Dp3 do a power switch between grid power and battery power without shutting off refrigerators and small portable air conditioners unfortunately my old Delta pro could not do it. Really would appreciate a reply. Prefer to stay within the Ecoflow ecosystem if possible.
I thought I showed in the video the smart home panel 2 transfer switch has a 20 ms transfer speed? If you have the appliances that you’re wanting powered by the two devices you just mentioned then yes it will switch right over, as a matter effect. We just had our power shut off for maintenance and it switched over and we didn’t even know it and it just switched back an hour later. This is assuming that you have the Smart home panel 2 installed. If you have anything else, then no you’re gonna have to plug it into the device and it’ll work the way I described in the video.
Thanks Rick. Appreciate the reply
from what i understand, if you connect 2 DPUs to the SHP2.0, there'll be 14KW available of continuous power. does this mean that if I have a load of say 9 kw, would this still be fine even if a DPU is rated 7kw?
When you combine two DPU units together you’re correct, 7200w x 2=14,400 watts. You’ll have the full 14,400 watts to run a load up to that rating. Surge watts is 10kw each totaling 20kw
you mentioned the dpu can do 21.6 kwh which is not accurate. 1 dpu can only do 7200 wh. but you can connect 3 of them to a smart panel to get up to 21.6kwh :)
Correct. I was talking about the total maximum it was able to do.
You’re confusing inverter capacity vs battery storage
im here without pay.. i just wanna learn
why isnt your basement WET
A properly made basement should not be wet. You're thinking of old construction from 40-50 years ago.
the majority of standard electric dryers run a single element and control the temperature, by cycling with a small heater built into the cycling thermostat.
later models would have temp and mositure sensors that cycle via a relay. the newest stuff out there, god only knows. 🤣
That motor had a pretty good size in rush.
@@HVACRSurvival yeah, the motors in them can be power hungry on start up, especially with a heavy wet load.
they are centrifugal start switch and capacitor type(sometimes cap. is at motor, others up in control box).
that same switch also brings on element power, assuming the settings and thermostats are all closed calling for heat. so it pretty much goes from high motor start current instantly to element on full current draw as it's just finished starting.
Sorry I just cannot help myself... you are pointing at the DP3 and calling it DPU, and at other times you are pointing at the DPU but calling it DP3 instead. LOL! Maybe just stick with Ultra and the Three next time? ;-)
That’s why I labeled it on the screen. I caught my mistake after it was recorded, and I wasn’t going back through and redoing it. 🤣