I recently bought a Hori RAP4 and replaced the stick and buttons with Sanwa parts and drunkenly bought a drone to dump the Hayabusa stuff into for a P2 stick. Ended up cancelling the order since I still have a Hori mini sitting around. Glad I'm seeing this video weeks later lol probably wouldn't have felt great opening up the drone only to find out the Hayabusa stick wouldn't even fit
I got my Drone a few days ago... happy I made the right choice. I got rid of the ball top for a bat. Ordered some of the foam for buttons... I'll have to be gentle with the clips... but I'm actually thinking about just swapping in the Qanba Gravity system... I want to play while my wife sleeps haha.
Glad you're happy with it. I've really enjoyed Qanba Gravity buttons, and the quiet down very well. Another great silent button is the Punk Workshop buttons with "pink box" switches. They're some of the quietest I've ever used and still feel great. They're a bit more difficult to get ahold of, or at least time consuming. You can usually find them on eBay. I believe SinoArcade is the main retailer
3:01 I use the Qanba Drone on original xbox, xbox 360 and xbox one thanks to the Brook Wingman XB adapter so us xbox players aren't out of luck with that. 👍💪
Hey man, I've been trying to get back into playing my childhood fighting games but could't get used to playing with the PS4 controller. Thanks for your video, I will be getting this Stick based on this review.
Really great review, thumbs up! I also put foam in my sticks to dampen noise. I'd be interested in seeing a korean lever round-up or a review of the less common/more expensive ones, I'm on a Sanjuks V6 right now but I'm interested in the Fujin, Alpha N and the Knee lever to name a few.
Thank you! I actually have been gathering up all sorts of levers for a while to do a series of review videos. I have one more arcade stick I want to review, then I plan to start filming that series
I'm gonna venture a guess and say those buttons are exacerbated due to the lack of a metal sheet or thicker top plastic. Acoustically, the steel sheets, acrylic plates and plastic laminates pull a lot of weight. The laminates on steel are especially good, multiple materials provide good dampening.
So, I know the ls-32-01 and ls-40-01 didn't fit, but those joysticks also have non-pcb versions without the "01" that are narrower as they don't have the pcb surrounding the microswitches. From what I can tell, your issue is that the pcb which surrounds the microswitches was getting in the way, which is the same issue I had trying to fit a ls-32 into an American enclosure as the pcb got in the way of the screws. The ls-32 without the pcb fit however. The non-pcb versions should be wired in the same way a short collar korean joystick is wired, and I do believe in any enclosure most short collars fit, the non-01 large LSs should fit. That being said, I don't own a drone so I can't test it myself.
So I searched up the microswitches that come in the stick (Omron) and it seems that they will last 10 times longer than those which come in the Mayflash (LEMA).
I would believe that. The Mayflash's switches are very much economy models. And Omron is a well known brand with a great name. I was really surprised Qanba got their switches in there at the price point.
I am getting my first stick tomorrow... The 8bitdo stick, that said I want to use gamerfinger buttons because A) I don't like how most buttons sound from the videos I watched and B) I have a bunch of different mechanical key switches lying around and would love to try all the various options in the gamerfinger buttons. My question is can I get screw in for 8bitdo and does khail choc work in gamerfinger?
The 8BitDo is a great place to start. And Gamerfinger buttons are top notch. They're pricy, but they are the best quiet buttons; hands down. 1. Screw ins won't fit the 8BitDo without some heavy modding. I have another video about doing custom button lighting where I install screw ins, and you can see the kind of cutting I had to do inside to make it work. 2. I assume you mean the v2 Khail choc's (the ones with the plus shaped stem)? They should fit, but the plunger will probably sit weirdly low.
@@Hops_fgc I ordered some gamerfinger buttons... hopefully they arrive lol, I want to change out the stick and I was wondering if you knew if any korean sticks such as mj09 would work
Awesome, where did you order them from? The only place I've know to have issues is the official site. I don't think it's maintained anymore. As for a Korean lever in the 8Bit, I don't think so. Not without removing the metal plates on the bottom, at least. Which would probably make it weirdly light. I tested it before and there was just a hair too little space.
@@Hops_fgc lol the official site... I hope to get them because I dont know where else I can but if I dont hear anything after enough time I should be covered with protection thru paypal so im not worried about getting ripped off
I think I may take the internals of the 8bitdo and just make a new case out of wood so I can customize it more to my liking but maintain wireless and switch functionality
Because the Drone mounts it's lever on stands right under the top plate, everything is going to sit a bit high on it. When you say diagonals miss, how are they missing? Are they coming out too early, or not coming out at all?
Okay. I'm trying to understand but I'm not sure how the height of the lever would stop diagonals from coming out. Diagonals don't need to go any further than cardinals, or at least they shouldn't. Happy to help troubleshoot though: - Try opening that hole on the bottom and watching the actuator hit the switches. If you can see both switches depressed in a diagonal position, your issue is electrical. Either a switch is defective, or a pin isn't plugged in all the way. Make sure all the connectors on the pins are snug, they shouldn't wiggle or pull off easily. - Also double check the connection from the joystick wires to the board. - If both switches aren't being engaged in a diagonal position, can you tell what's blocking them? Is it the hole for the lever? Is there something in the case interfering with the actuator like a wire?
Not that I'm aware of. I think there's a variety of reasons for it. Good Happ style parts can be difficult to source. And there are no off the shelf options for an arcade stick like there are for Japanese or Korean levers. So you have to do a custom build, and not many companies make cases for them. There's also a generational aspect to it. They're very tied to the arcade scene of the 80s and 90s. So people who didn't experience that are going to be unfamiliar with them. The main pro level player I'm aware of who used Happ parts was Justin Wong during the height of his MVC 1&2 career. But he eventually switched for the reasons above. Parts were too scarce at the time, and the case he had to lug around to tournaments was really clunky.
Not without modification. You would need to drill the lever hole out to 35mm. Because of how low the top of the stick sits. Even a half collar stick like the 309MJ needs it. You'd also need to bend the micro switch pins to fit around the stands.
@@Hops_fgc Ah, what type of Crown lever u recomend me?? i need one that dont need modification for put on Qanba Drone... Maybe Crown CWL-309FJ-KMS-ST35 ??
Yes! The 309FJ would fit without the need to modify the case. You'll still have to bend pins, but that's a very minor thing. One thing to note. The MJ and FJ usually come with different tension grommets. The MJ usually comes with a soft 25, while the FJ usually comes with a medium tension 35. If you're coming from Japanese levers though, the 35 may feel very stiff. May be worth ordering a 25 Crown grommet if you think that may be the case. Home this helps.
If you're on PS3, PS4, or PC, the Drone is better out of the box. The 8BitDo's main selling point is wireless play, but I don't find the components to be as good
I don't have a PS5 to verify it with, but I've seen multiple people reporting it works perfectly with it, for both PS5 and PS4 games. Qanba doesn't officially claim support though. I can only speculate on why they don't. If I had to: - there are edge cases that prevent it from getting the Sony stamp of approval, like not working with games people won't use it for anyway. - the process of being a licensed Sony product is long/expensive/etc. And Qanba doesn't think it's worth it for a last gen product
The shaft in the QB-J-OV1 is nearly identical to what comes in the Sanwa JLF. I believe the only differences are the JLF shaft is a bit lighter, and about millimeter thicker on the bottom half. It fits, just needs extra force to go through the spring base. So, anything that would work on a Sanwa JLF will work in it. The main option is the PhreakMod Link: arcadeshock.com/products/phreakmods-the-link-ex-groove-edition?_pos=3&_sid=0141780bf&_ss=r It should fit through the spring base with a little extra force, but if it won't get a spare from a JLF like this one: focusattack.com/sanwa-jlf-p-6-pressure-spring-base/
Yes, but with some caveats. The Drone will work on the PS5 through it's PS4 controller compatibility. But PS4 controllers can only be used to play PS4 games. So if this is right choice will depend on the games he's playing. If he's playing more PS4 era games like Street Fighter 5 or Tekken 7, this should have him covered until sequels start coming out over the next year or two. At that point, I expect we'll have converters for PS4 to PS5. Brook is a consistently reputable brand for this. Here's an example of their current Switch/XBox/PS3 to PS4 converter: www.amazon.com/Brook-Wingman-Support-Controller-Converter/dp/B08B82M9TG/ref=sr_1_4 If you want a fully PS5 native arcade stick Hori's "Fighting Stick Alpha" is one of the few available right now: www.amazon.com/HORI-PlayStation-Fighting-Stick-Alpha-5/dp/B09RQV4786 Hope the info dump wasn't too much, PS5 compatibility is messy right now.
I recently bought a Hori RAP4 and replaced the stick and buttons with Sanwa parts and drunkenly bought a drone to dump the Hayabusa stuff into for a P2 stick. Ended up cancelling the order since I still have a Hori mini sitting around. Glad I'm seeing this video weeks later lol probably wouldn't have felt great opening up the drone only to find out the Hayabusa stick wouldn't even fit
I'm always happy when these videos can help someone, even if it's to realize the stick isn't the right fit for them 👍
@@Hops_fgc still might buy one anyway. ya sold the thing with this review. Need something to replace the mini for guests.
I got my Drone a few days ago... happy I made the right choice. I got rid of the ball top for a bat. Ordered some of the foam for buttons... I'll have to be gentle with the clips... but I'm actually thinking about just swapping in the Qanba Gravity system... I want to play while my wife sleeps haha.
Glad you're happy with it. I've really enjoyed Qanba Gravity buttons, and the quiet down very well. Another great silent button is the Punk Workshop buttons with "pink box" switches. They're some of the quietest I've ever used and still feel great. They're a bit more difficult to get ahold of, or at least time consuming. You can usually find them on eBay. I believe SinoArcade is the main retailer
@@Hops_fgc I appreciate the info, I'll check them out! Have a good day dude.
3:01 I use the Qanba Drone on original xbox, xbox 360 and xbox one thanks to the Brook Wingman XB adapter so us xbox players aren't out of luck with that. 👍💪
Ah! I should have thought of Brook converters. Great callout 👍
Hey man, I've been trying to get back into playing my childhood fighting games but could't get used to playing with the PS4 controller. Thanks for your video, I will be getting this Stick based on this review.
Really great review, thumbs up! I also put foam in my sticks to dampen noise. I'd be interested in seeing a korean lever round-up or a review of the less common/more expensive ones, I'm on a Sanjuks V6 right now but I'm interested in the Fujin, Alpha N and the Knee lever to name a few.
Thank you! I actually have been gathering up all sorts of levers for a while to do a series of review videos. I have one more arcade stick I want to review, then I plan to start filming that series
I'm gonna venture a guess and say those buttons are exacerbated due to the lack of a metal sheet or thicker top plastic. Acoustically, the steel sheets, acrylic plates and plastic laminates pull a lot of weight.
The laminates on steel are especially good, multiple materials provide good dampening.
bro your the goat good job on that ino combo
Thank you so much!
So, I know the ls-32-01 and ls-40-01 didn't fit, but those joysticks also have non-pcb versions without the "01" that are narrower as they don't have the pcb surrounding the microswitches. From what I can tell, your issue is that the pcb which surrounds the microswitches was getting in the way, which is the same issue I had trying to fit a ls-32 into an American enclosure as the pcb got in the way of the screws. The ls-32 without the pcb fit however. The non-pcb versions should be wired in the same way a short collar korean joystick is wired, and I do believe in any enclosure most short collars fit, the non-01 large LSs should fit. That being said, I don't own a drone so I can't test it myself.
You're right. I didn't have a traditional LS-32 on hand. I do now and was able to check. It will indeed fit, just needs pins bent.
Nice review. Thank you.
You're welcome, glad you liked it!
So I searched up the microswitches that come in the stick (Omron) and it seems that they will last 10 times longer than those which come in the Mayflash (LEMA).
I would believe that. The Mayflash's switches are very much economy models. And Omron is a well known brand with a great name.
I was really surprised Qanba got their switches in there at the price point.
Thank you! All i wanna know is 56 fit or not.
Yup, the LS-56 fits great! It's actually what I have in it right now
There is a kit in the sanwa Amazon store of 1 joystick and 8 buttons is that good enough to upgrade the drone?
Provided they're legit yeah. Sanwa parts would be a good upgrade
I am getting my first stick tomorrow... The 8bitdo stick, that said I want to use gamerfinger buttons because A) I don't like how most buttons sound from the videos I watched and B) I have a bunch of different mechanical key switches lying around and would love to try all the various options in the gamerfinger buttons. My question is can I get screw in for 8bitdo and does khail choc work in gamerfinger?
The 8BitDo is a great place to start. And Gamerfinger buttons are top notch. They're pricy, but they are the best quiet buttons; hands down.
1. Screw ins won't fit the 8BitDo without some heavy modding. I have another video about doing custom button lighting where I install screw ins, and you can see the kind of cutting I had to do inside to make it work.
2. I assume you mean the v2 Khail choc's (the ones with the plus shaped stem)? They should fit, but the plunger will probably sit weirdly low.
@@Hops_fgc I ordered some gamerfinger buttons... hopefully they arrive lol, I want to change out the stick and I was wondering if you knew if any korean sticks such as mj09 would work
Awesome, where did you order them from? The only place I've know to have issues is the official site. I don't think it's maintained anymore.
As for a Korean lever in the 8Bit, I don't think so. Not without removing the metal plates on the bottom, at least. Which would probably make it weirdly light. I tested it before and there was just a hair too little space.
@@Hops_fgc lol the official site... I hope to get them because I dont know where else I can but if I dont hear anything after enough time I should be covered with protection thru paypal so im not worried about getting ripped off
I think I may take the internals of the 8bitdo and just make a new case out of wood so I can customize it more to my liking but maintain wireless and switch functionality
good video!
That noise might be due to the all plastic housing of the drone.
That's absolutely true. Light, all plastic housings are always going to be noisy, no matter what.
Will this work with PS5 right out of the box? Some say it does.
Does this stick work on Ps5? I keep seeing people say it works on PS4 compatible games?
I already put crown 309 FJ in Drone, but the shaft is so tall and diagonals so miss, how i can resolve it?
Because the Drone mounts it's lever on stands right under the top plate, everything is going to sit a bit high on it.
When you say diagonals miss, how are they missing? Are they coming out too early, or not coming out at all?
Not comming out, couse shaft lever are so tall. I want like this m.ruclips.net/video/nKYPnWDQE_E/видео.html
Is possible? If yes, what i need do??
Okay. I'm trying to understand but I'm not sure how the height of the lever would stop diagonals from coming out. Diagonals don't need to go any further than cardinals, or at least they shouldn't.
Happy to help troubleshoot though:
- Try opening that hole on the bottom and watching the actuator hit the switches. If you can see both switches depressed in a diagonal position, your issue is electrical. Either a switch is defective, or a pin isn't plugged in all the way. Make sure all the connectors on the pins are snug, they shouldn't wiggle or pull off easily.
- Also double check the connection from the joystick wires to the board.
- If both switches aren't being engaged in a diagonal position, can you tell what's blocking them? Is it the hole for the lever? Is there something in the case interfering with the actuator like a wire?
@@Hops_fgc My doubt is what this guy do to get this lever height?? m.ruclips.net/video/nKYPnWDQE_E/видео.html
Would the sanwa JLF detachable fit?
Yes, any of the JLF models will fit great!
Do many competition gamers use happ sticks? I ask because I greatly prefer happ to sanwa.
Not that I'm aware of. I think there's a variety of reasons for it. Good Happ style parts can be difficult to source. And there are no off the shelf options for an arcade stick like there are for Japanese or Korean levers. So you have to do a custom build, and not many companies make cases for them.
There's also a generational aspect to it. They're very tied to the arcade scene of the 80s and 90s. So people who didn't experience that are going to be unfamiliar with them.
The main pro level player I'm aware of who used Happ parts was Justin Wong during the height of his MVC 1&2 career. But he eventually switched for the reasons above. Parts were too scarce at the time, and the case he had to lug around to tournaments was really clunky.
The Qanba Drone is compatible with Crown CWL-309MJ-KMS-ST35?
Not without modification. You would need to drill the lever hole out to 35mm. Because of how low the top of the stick sits. Even a half collar stick like the 309MJ needs it.
You'd also need to bend the micro switch pins to fit around the stands.
@@Hops_fgc Ah, what type of Crown lever u recomend me?? i need one that dont need modification for put on Qanba Drone... Maybe Crown CWL-309FJ-KMS-ST35 ??
Yes! The 309FJ would fit without the need to modify the case. You'll still have to bend pins, but that's a very minor thing.
One thing to note. The MJ and FJ usually come with different tension grommets. The MJ usually comes with a soft 25, while the FJ usually comes with a medium tension 35. If you're coming from Japanese levers though, the 35 may feel very stiff. May be worth ordering a 25 Crown grommet if you think that may be the case.
Home this helps.
@@Hops_fgc I come from Crown 309 Helpme + 45 tension rubber, i think for me 309FJ with 35 rubber will be perfect. Thanks a lot!!
Which budget stick is better? 8bitdo or qanba drone?
If you're on PS3, PS4, or PC, the Drone is better out of the box. The 8BitDo's main selling point is wireless play, but I don't find the components to be as good
whats the game he's playing ?
does it work for windows 10?
Yessir
Qanba knew that everyone was gonna use the JLF 😅 I prefer the hayabusa
I ended up putting in an LS-56 after the video because it's more my preference.
I can't argue with their design though. The JLF is crazy popular
@@Hops_fgc indeed it is , I have one In it haha . But going to do a hit box convention
Will this work on the PlayStation 5?
I don't have a PS5 to verify it with, but I've seen multiple people reporting it works perfectly with it, for both PS5 and PS4 games.
Qanba doesn't officially claim support though.
I can only speculate on why they don't. If I had to:
- there are edge cases that prevent it from getting the Sony stamp of approval, like not working with games people won't use it for anyway.
- the process of being a licensed Sony product is long/expensive/etc. And Qanba doesn't think it's worth it for a last gen product
Yes! I'm playing Street fighter 6 (Ps5-Version) with my drone!🤙
How can i use it with pc win 10!
Toggle the switch on the left to "PS3" and plug it in. Windows should automatically detect it and install any required drivers
@@Hops_fgc Thanx
What is specific name of Qanba Drone lever?
The default one? It's the Qanba QB-J-OV1
@@Hops_fgc I like that, what detachable shaft are compatible with him?
The shaft in the QB-J-OV1 is nearly identical to what comes in the Sanwa JLF. I believe the only differences are the JLF shaft is a bit lighter, and about millimeter thicker on the bottom half. It fits, just needs extra force to go through the spring base.
So, anything that would work on a Sanwa JLF will work in it. The main option is the PhreakMod Link: arcadeshock.com/products/phreakmods-the-link-ex-groove-edition?_pos=3&_sid=0141780bf&_ss=r
It should fit through the spring base with a little extra force, but if it won't get a spare from a JLF like this one:
focusattack.com/sanwa-jlf-p-6-pressure-spring-base/
@@Hops_fgc Ty a lot bro!!
You're very welcome man!
So will this work on a ps5 ??? I wanna buy this for my husband but we only have a ps5
Yes, but with some caveats. The Drone will work on the PS5 through it's PS4 controller compatibility. But PS4 controllers can only be used to play PS4 games.
So if this is right choice will depend on the games he's playing. If he's playing more PS4 era games like Street Fighter 5 or Tekken 7, this should have him covered until sequels start coming out over the next year or two.
At that point, I expect we'll have converters for PS4 to PS5. Brook is a consistently reputable brand for this. Here's an example of their current Switch/XBox/PS3 to PS4 converter: www.amazon.com/Brook-Wingman-Support-Controller-Converter/dp/B08B82M9TG/ref=sr_1_4
If you want a fully PS5 native arcade stick Hori's "Fighting Stick Alpha" is one of the few available right now: www.amazon.com/HORI-PlayStation-Fighting-Stick-Alpha-5/dp/B09RQV4786
Hope the info dump wasn't too much, PS5 compatibility is messy right now.
hello qanba just released a new one for the P5
Yes it works: i'm playing street fighter 6 (ps5-version) with my drone ☝️🤙
multi angle facecam 😳
Always trying to raise my quality 😎