Why Newcastle Can’t Defend Anymore (And How To Fix It)
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- Out of Europe and falling down the Premier League, Newcastle United's season is in serious danger of falling apart. But as they continue to grow as a football club in the long term, Manchester City's Kalvin Phillips could offer them some solutions in the short term.
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The tiredness matters when trying to play in that intense way, but of course that same constant intensity causes the tiredness and injuries in the first place. This is why the charges against Man City are significant - if one team can just buy unlimited top quality players then the others, particularly NU, Spurs and Liverpool (last season) get burnt out trying to keep up with them. There's no way Philips would have been sat on the bench for two whole seasons for any other club; they would have been forced to play him at some point. City just splash another 60 mil on someone Pep thinks is better than him.
The other way of looking at it is that Eddie Howe needs a Plan B. He strengthened his squad but the extra games and injuries have overwhelmed them. They were described as naive in some European games. So they need to have an alternative, hold the ball, slow down the play, conserve some energy, and maybe change shape. Both in games and in training. Forest simply tore them apart on the counter, and they were a team coming off a bad run and low on confidence, though with the "new manager bounce". When Eddie arrived at Newcastle I was concerned about the defence from his record at Bournemouth. He answered it magnificently and made key signings like Trippier. But even Trippier seems to be making surprising mistakes at the moment. Mental as well as physical tiredness?
Tonali, Barnes, Murphy, Pope, Botman, Anderson - these were all freak injuries / suspension and not in any way due to the level of intensity we play at. Although it is true that the level of intensity we play at does come with a greater risk of producing injuries, we have just been exceptionally unlucky with the above players all going down and limiting our ability to manage the others' fatigue.
@@johnnyboy11000 Could add Targett to that list aswell because he barely played any minutes before his injury, and also the Burn injury was a freak one (injured by falling/landing)
That crumple transition at the start was clean AF. As for the analysis, I'm right with you. I was in the Leazes for the Forest shambles and the amount of space they had on the break was ridiculous. Someone who can shield the defense is a must to cope with that.
yeah, I was watching it on tv and the gaps were... well, Forest saw and exploited them very well
I was screaming at Eddie on the TV to not be playing that line knowing Dubravka isn't going to sweep. I haven't been too impressed with him lately!
Also Burn is too slow a player to leave one on one with someone like Elanga, felt sorry for him.
@@GuyJames yeah, we were lucky Elanga's first touch is so bad for a lot of that game. No idea why Livramento didn't start, we looked way better when he came on. I love Burn, but I don't think he's a viable LB for us right now, since he's clearly not fully fit.
@@mattball8622 Limited choice given the injury list? But it does suggest Eddie Howe needs a Plan B and alternative formations to make the most of who he's got left and shield his weaknesses. He never fully sorted the defence in all his years at Bournemouth; he seemed to have overcome that brilliantly at Newcastle, but maybe not fully.
I’m beginning to think City bought Phillips just so that rival teams couldn’t get him 😅.
Grealish is another example.
Suggest some of these negative fans on here listen to Klopp's press conference when asked about Newcastle and injuries. His assessment is spot on - games every three days only allows time for recovery - no training/tactics, same players playing for weeks because of no available rotation, getting mentally and physically fatigued and injured, plus injured players coming back not match fit/sharp. It's SO obvious...so cut them all some slack...
Miggy, Gordon and Bruno have had NO respite in that time...Botman, Burn and Longstaff still not match sharp and probably back a bit too soon. It's a no-win situation that should hopefully get better in the New Year...
Phillips would certainly add to squad depth - but our poor forwards are the ones really feeling the strain...
Spot on!
Isak also played with an injury for over a month because Wilson was totally out and Gordon was also playing with a knock, wild how people are saying ‘it’s not an excuse anymore’ - it’s literally more of a reason the longer the injury crisis goes on 😂 and now botman is back but earlier than planned, Lacelles injured, schar carrying knock too, even those starting now are still 70% on average
Well said mate, a section of our fans are a joke.
What would Klopp know? Compared to Gary from the Garter?
Yes, but ... shouldn't the manager be cutting them some slack too by finding an alternative way to play that is less intense during some periods of the game when you can control the ball? Maybe some lessons to be learned from European teams of 50-odd years ago, as well as today.
nice to listen to someone who doesnt talk bollocks, really good analysis
As a City fan, Kalvin deserves to play. It sucks that it hasn’t gone his way with Pep. I wish him the best.
Surely he is better than Kovaic? That guy is so boring.
I think you’re more bothered than he is. Don’t get the impression he cares too much about not playing tbh.
he's shite, simple as, that's why Pep doesn't play him
As a City fan, you should know he's not good enough for Man City when he plays. 😂
Let's see how he does at Newcastle, maybe it's a confidence thing I don't know but I hope he can back better and make us stronger. We need a proper Rodri replacement
Rodri and his stupid fucking tucked shirt are too good and durable for Kalvin to get any playing time
Good analysis. It'll help. However, it won't fix the chronic shooting and ball control from Wilson, and it won't fix Almiron from being one footed, indecisive, and unable to cross or shoot.
It won't fix the inability of the entire team to hit the target from around the edge of the box.
It won't fix the terrible substitutions from Howe and also won't stop him playing just his favourites all the time.
@anon-zk6iz he doesn't make terrible substitutions all the time. He is sometimes too conservative when it comes to substitutions, but until very recently the subs bench was lined with goalkeepers and kids, due to the extensive injury list.
He doesn't 'just play his favourites' either. He is tending to pick players who have already demonstrated their abilities last season. Burn isn't playing very well at the moment, but he was an integral part of one of the best defensive records in the league last season. I do think he should give the other players more game time, but your comment is a grossly reductive oversimplification, which ignores the consequences of the injury crisis, and is simply untrue.
@@anon-zk6iz instead of playing Almiron, is that mean starting Ritchie on right wing? Come on, look at the squad, how many first team players left
A good pass from a midfilder can make an average winger look world class. Slowing a pass by one second can make a world class winger look like a headless chicken.
@@geochan910 Tino/Hall instead of Burn.
I remember in the comments from people during last summer's transfer period as to what type of player we should be going for there were those who advocated a number 6 role and a Miggy replacement. If Ashworth and his team had gone down that path, instead of the Tonali/Barnes route ( with an obvious amount of looking back with hindsight) I could see where, following your video, our season may have not been so bad so far. Also I think, going forward we will see Livramento more in the Burn role but I don't know how the introduction of a 6 may affect Lewis Miley's playing time.
Probably will reduce Miley's games, but that's no bad thing for a 17 year old whose body is still developing. The last thing anyone wants is to crock him permanently. He could be key for Newcastle ... and England.
The paper transition, the QI siren reference... absolute gold episode
It's gonna take multiple transfer windows and a few hidings before this club realises it's potential. We can't just replace every player and fix every problem in a couple of windows. Phillips may help but the reality is we only have maybe 3 irreplaceable players and we're about in the right league position for the quality of the squad right now.
Good comment. This was always going to be a multi year process
Yes I think quite a few of our fans have gotten carried away by the success of last season and haven’t realised that was a huge overachievement, this season is more in line with what we should realistically expect so early into the new era
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 I just hope Eddie doesn't become a victim of his own success as a result of overachieving last year. I'm sure the board are fully Cognizant of the fact that last year's success was way ahead of schedule and unsustainable, but fan pressure is starting to build and they might make the mistake of listening to it instead of sticking to the original plan and timetable with Eddie
@@unholyxeras8182Journalists like Keith Downie has said the owners (all of them including PIF) understand the current situation and expected a blip due to European football and squad depth, the injury situation is worse than predicted and Eddie can’t be blamed for that, the owners understand this. All of the journalists talking to people inside the club have said Eddie Howe isn’t at risk and he’s still their long term plan.
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 not sure an overachievement, but the normal top 4/5 clubs, Tottenham, Chelsea and Liverpool were rubbish in 2022/23 and Newcastle rightly achieved top 4. This season Liverpool have returned to norm, Aston Villa are overachieving. Add in Man Utd, Brighton and hell West Ham looking for top 4, this season has become incredibly competitive. And Newcastle don’t have the squad for it… yet
These are great videos by Adam and FFT, keep it up!
Teams have found out the system and making use of the counter. I hope Eddie change the intensity philosophy because it doesn't seem sustainable.
Well said
He knows only one way.
Figuring out the way we play is pretty easy, let’s be honest… but actually putting that into practice isn’t as easy. The opposition has only been successful because of the glaring fitness issues and lack of squad depth.
We were only successful last year due to how hard we worked and pressed, because We haven’t got the quality in the squad to control games and easily keep possession yet.
Relax you idiots
@@Brunos-magic-hat But putting your foot on the ball, slowing things down and taking a rest against a team that's sitting back doesn't really require huge quality. Short passes are easier than long ones. Opening them up ... well that's a challenge.
Agree with everything you said especially last seasons recovery runs . I remember seeing that every match and the commentators saying the same thing.
Brilliant analysis again there Adam, you’re always spot on!!
Well done! Great analysis!
Thank you, Mr Fourfourtwo, for explaining that. 😊 It would be great if Eddie were given the chance to revive Kalvin Phillip's career, and he could restore our fortunes, in turn. Then, when we have all fully recovered and Toonino has served his ban, we could have some genuine rotation in midfield and we might not look like half a team, as we usually do, whenever Bruno isn't on the pitch. In the mean time, fingers crossed we can requalify for Europe, as this is necessary to keep a good squad together.😮
Absolutely nailed it. What a fantastic analysis 👌
Spot on, 1st nufc official website training video, Howe says recovery runs very important. It's also clear he has no Plan B, he is just going to wait until the injuries clear up.
I'm a Newcastle fan, and I've been saying "They're tired" this whole run. I've always considered the human aspect of things. If anyone has played, they know Anyone would be gassed if they played our way for 90 minutes, 3 games a week. With that said, I hope January works for us. Not only to get some quality in but to add some depth too
The major problem is that Trippier is 32 and Schar is 31 and both play on the same side. Schar is nororious for being very lazy when directly attacked both aerially or via strength based play. And Trippier has just aged out of being able to track back.
Alot of their goals are leaking because these two players are put in bad positions after Bruno has commited to the attack. Kalvin Phillips solves nothing. Because at the end of the day Trippier needs to move into the 6 role, and Bruno needs to move forward. They also need to go get a Roylles-Royce CB to replace Schlar who's contract is up this offseason.
Phillips is just another Longstaff, but older and overpaid. They need to get the team back to solid.
What are you talking about 😂 Botman and Dan burn have been getting torched and your gonna go at trippier and Schar?? 😂
Unfortunately there’s a large number of fans that think we’re already a top team and don’t expect a drop in form because we’ve had one good season.
We did well last year because the lads worked there b@llox off as a team and pressed non stop, creating most of our goals from pressing the opposition into mistakes. When we can no longer do that the lesser quality and ability of the players we still have from the Ashley era becomes much more apparent. We just haven’t got the players (yet) to be able to control matches like Man City, Arsenal etc.
That correction of “Real Madrid Casemiro”got me😂😂😂 Early happy birthday you mad lad🎉🎉
Great analysis from Adam here.
agree with what you say also need a left back and keeper
Bloody brilliant summary. let's just get it done.
Watching this makes me more +ve about signing KP. Eddie will (half full) make KP a better player ‘cos that’s what he does. It demonstrates that he can fit into EHs type of team and philosophy of ‘versatility as on pitch utility’ (copyright Geordiedog’23:)
Even more so as you explained about teams being far more ‘park the bus ‘ v Nufc now and that gegenpressing as a dominant tactic is ending (see email:).
Great video Adam.
Happy FourFourTwoFour!
We actually have suffered similarly at Forest, was gobsmacked at Wood’s hatrick. We also seem to be suffering from either bedding in new unfit players, or players coming back from injury and it’s got Cooper sacked. We aren’t playing any differently that in previous games apart from a little more energy and I put that down to new manager reaction, which of course is temporary
Oh yeah, and Happy New Year 😊
Newcastle last season: fewer games, more players.
Newcastle this season: more games, fewer players.
What happened (a strong start to the season but tailing away towards Christmas as more and more injuries depleted the squad) is exactly what you'd expect.
Another weird feature is that Newcastle should actually get better results against teams that come and try and control possession (ie "better teams") than against teams that drop deep and counter (eg Forest and Luton). Not sure that will work out against Liverpool...
High qualty content as ever!
Please can we have a video on ' why Guardiola doesn't like Kalvin Phillips'. I'd be really interested to know what boxes he doesn't tick
All these comments make me laugh, saying Phillips isn't good enough, when he clearly is! The reason he hasn't played at city is down to the ability of the players to play the pep way! Listen to what pep say's about him! If he does come to the toon I for one will have confidence he can add to our squad
Happy Birthday Adam!
Adam is very good at explaining and simplifying football science
As a Forest fan, yes I did have a nice xmas mate, thanks
I thoroughly believe that the most important player in the squad isn't Bruno, not Trippier, but is Joelinton
Much of their struggles have been when he's out, or overworked, tired/playing with an injury (which btw, if you're playing with an injury, it's because the team needs you)
He does all of the transitional dirty work, and is so good at bringing the ball from our own box to the opponent's box.
A certain senior player's off field activities... haven't helped recently.....
Go on
The other way of looking at it is that Eddie Howe needs a Plan B. He strengthened his squad but the extra games and injuries have overwhelmed them. They were described as naive in some European games. So they need to have an alternative, hold the ball, slow down the play, conserve some energy, and maybe change shape. Both in games and in training. Bruno playing as an 8 not a 6. Forest simply tore them apart on the counter, and they were a team coming off a bad run and low on confidence, though with the "new manager bounce". When Eddie arrived at Newcastle I was concerned about the defence from his record at Bournemouth. He answered it magnificently and made key signings like Trippier. But even Trippier seems to be making surprising mistakes at the moment. Mental as well as physical tiredness? Lewis Miley seems to have many of the required qualities and will be great for the future, but you have to be careful how much you use a 17 year old whose body is still developing; an injury may take that cutting edge off permanently. Think Michael Owen, Jamie Redknapp, Ledley King, Norman Whiteside etc.
Other options to Phillips Adam? I don't see many out there that would be achievable in a Jan window? Also I do think the RW problem needs resolving and then there's the small issue of Dubravka looking lost as well. Thoughts?
They can take Hojbejg
At this point I would take him to be honest.
@@crabby5700 there’s a player in him, just not quite right for Angeball
@@QuotidianStupidity we need an out and out 6 imo but I'd take him for an extra pair of legs at this point
@@crabby5700 yeh we were very lucky to get Bissouma for what we did, he’s very good and perfect for what we need.
Go, on . Let's hear it Adam mu good geordie fella 😂🤔🤔🫣😅 0:55
Newcastle needed a plan B formation and tactic to stop teams exploiting us on the counter during the injury crisis. I get that Howe wants to keep the identity of his side, but at what cost? Games against Luton, Forest we could have easily played a patient build up game with a 4-2-3-1 and grinded out results against them both including the Bournemouth and Everton games, 4 games we were more than capable of avoiding defeat with the right set up. Another problem is, opponents are analysing our games and know our weaknesses. Last season it was new, this season teams are set up to stifle us and expose our weaknesses.
Teams have just found out their system, Philips will help but long term the onus is on Howe to adapt. He showed at Bournemouth he was not able to
Plus if you notice Bruno breaking his neck to catch up with the counter attack, you'll see that he doesnt have any pace at all. Would love to see us try him in the 10 and sit maybe Longstaff back as a holding midfielder
That's absolutely why this can only be a loan, player and money!! 11:38
As a Newcastle fan, I think it is clear this season that we're sturggling to have someone who can score from distance. All the other big teams, Man City, Arsenal, Tottenham, Liverpool give them space at the 25 yard line and they'll take a shot. The only decent shooter is probably Bruno G, and then the odd thunder from Schar. But Miggy, Big Joe, Longstaff really need to up their ability to hit shot from outside of the box. Heck even Trippier has a great freekick but for the life of him never shoots.
You believe that about as much as i do, clery
wasnt sold on KP but might be worth a risk
There’s no harm in loaning an epl proven quality player in a position we need depth in
Where do you get these stats ?
Phillips would make a good addition to Newcastle, it can only help how he plays for England also.
The gap between midfield and defence is a bit suicidal
Back in the golden days of August I suggested Schar could play in the number 6 position. I still think he would be a good shout for the 2nd half of the season. Longstaff could do it too. Eddie is too wedded to 4-3-3 and too wedded to players who are not top class - Miggy and BDB.
Happy Birthday Adders!
Fantastic analysis and showen very well. It has bothered me this season why we have pesisted with same system when the individual errors are also shouting out the same issue ie trips vs everton panics as no midfielder in the middle as still trying to get back.. then second the amount of times once opposing side gets inbehind bruno on transition we are left outnumbered because trips is always high up for his quality in attack. We get left out numbered so often because of it. Sadly i dont have a graph or the interlet to articulate it like yourself on a comment lol
Sadly the Saudi fund aren’t giving us any more money so we aren’t buying anyone this window! How amazing isn’t it! Howe is up for a 5 year project and is probably being sacked about 18 months into it! We only get money when we win, this is rediculouse they don’t know we need a larger squad to win. This could go terribly wrong for the club.
I get what youre trying to say, but why exactly can't longstaff or pillock be instructed to cover for bruno G when he moves in the final third? I know Phillips is probably more defensive minded, however if the key take away is for phillips to be the deepest midfielder when we overload in attack, then we should actually get longstaff to sit in front of the centre halfs.
In my opinion, we are losing points more this season because teams play us on the counter, we have yet to learn how to deal with teams content to sit back and pick apart our overloads. Not having a settled defensive line with the injuries is always going to make it harder. The defence needs to be settled.
I agree with the missing 6. Tonali was going to be that guy. Newcastle wouldn’t just want a 6 tho, we want a 6 who can attack.
Funnily enough, I think Schar can be that guy for short term.
Schar is a great option for '6'.
so in short manager hasn’t adapted to new reality
So why hasn't a temp solution been to swap Bruno with Longstaff in the 6 to keep that defensive structure? Bruno can come in as a double pivot anyway when playing out from the back, but at least going forward Longstaff can prevent the counter.
Similar to what happened with Marcelo Bielsa's Leeds. Players can't do it forever.
Did actually turn it off after the tired part 1:17
Surely they should just get legs in for a lot less? Just get another long staff and joelinton, which is actually way easier than you think blueprint wise
Joelinton is a rare breed in terms of what he offers and Longstaff is a local lad playing way above his standard, I think they're hard players to replicate. They also sort of already did this with Tonali, another hybrid 8 who can work hard but also offer a bit of creativity. Do we want another player like that that'll cost us 25-40m and on big wages when we really need to be improving not just duplicating what we have? I get what you're saying though, we need another body, Phillips with loan and an option would be perfect but City will want money.
Fatigue or tiredness is ‘fixed’ by resting a player. However, if everyone injured then you can’t fix the problem. The state of Miggy is a case in point. He’s woefully out of form but he can’t be rested because there is literally - not figuratively - no one to replace him. No one. Nada. Duck egg.
The only option now - as in right now - is to maybe put Gordon there and put JoeLinton on the left and retain wee Louie in the centre.
There is more to injuries than just the injured player, in other words.
What's worrying is that if you can see this then why can't Eddie? I'm yet to see any tweaks to address this. For mw the manager is accountable
So, Jan 1st do they attempt to play at Anfield, or do a Man Utd.
I am somewhat encouraged by this analysis- was pretty much against the idea of getting him
If you got him of the cheap, pep has left him out for reasons.
I don't see how this will fix almirons inability to create anything from the right
Eddie would get the best out of Phillips, no doubt! This would be a great signing.
What I would do to see the return of Drawcastle United this season
Another great video. You'll end up on some Premier League Team's backroom staff if you're not careful. Here's hoping we sign someone to help with this problem.
We don’t need a number six mate. Would seriously reduce our attacking ability. Andrey Santos cheaper younger and more progressive. Phillips 5 seconds to weigh up a long ball forward just doesn’t impress me.
Lol, the only thing Kalvin Phillips can fix is falling profits at Greggs 🤣
Eddie said in a press conference recently though that the deal wasn't progressing. Could be him misleading the media again though haha got my fingers crossed
As I said in August Eddie has no Plan B. Compare him to Klopp and Pep who have plans A-Z.
Yeah we didn't really need a video on this subject. The top and bottom of it is, we have played the same players over and over again, to the point they are all blowing out their arses. The most reliable of pros are making stupid decisions (the main culprit being tripps). I honestly believe this is going to have a knock on effect for the whole season. I know there was other reasons given other that tiredness in this video, but this is the main reason i believe its solely down to injuries. Take all the injuries we have had and give them to any other club in the league, and they would struggle to get any results whatsoever.
We also need a decent keeper, if we're going to requalify for Europe 😢. Ramsdale on loan, with an option to buy ? Or De Gea on a six month contract with an option to extend ? Pope's shoulder could pop out again at any time, so we need equable back-up. And of course, a shady 'fixer' behind the scenes at UEFA, just like Roman Abramovic, Sheikh Mansour and the Glazers have had over the last decade or so, while they were immune to FFP. 😉
Was this not the plan for Tonali ? Rotate 6/8 with Bruno
Before the big f off ban yeah
@fourfourtwo - if Tonali was there, would that have made a difference?
Can you send this to Eddie please
We've massively missed Joelinton in the last two matches.
Eddie chose not to play him he’s been fit for past 2
@@Skiiman24 I wonder if he was keeping him wrapped up for the Liverpool game, thinking we had enough to beat Luton and Forest. He'll be vital at Anfield on Monday night.
No shout out for caicado
Wow
Those defensive stats just show me how awful Longstaff is. People sing his praises but I've never rated him, and these stats prove me why. Plus Joelinton is an absolute beast.
Newcastle dont need to sack howe what they need to do is bring in a proper manager like jose and allow howe to be the head coach. He is a brilliant coach probably one of the best in the world in terms of getting the very best out of players. But in terms of game management howe is not yet at the level where he can be taking on pep and klopp. But imagine with jose and howe and how much eddie could learn. The type of person eddie is i think he will become one of the greats. Maybe become the best british manager since fergie. Maybe even the best english manager since wor sir bobby.
One thing overlooked, Newcastle managed games *time wasted* last season, with typically only 55 mins worth of ball in play. The added time and clamp down on time-wasting has impacted Newcastle more than anything. Sustaining that intensity for longer each game leads to injuries.
Fingers crossed. Its hard to watch at the moment. Wheela have come off a bit with an injury decimated squad on top of the heavy fixture list.
HWTL 2024
Sandro Tonali should feel bad about himself. He can play and help his team instead he gambles
I really like Phillips but for me he’s at his best with another 6 alongside him like in the Euros when he had Rice, I think West Ham’s system would be perfect for him imo
Adam Cleary the thinking man's Pete Donaldson
Sounds like a more organised version of Manchester United
we need a creative attacking midfielder, KP is not what newcastle needs or wants, theres a reason man city dont use him.
We need both him and Diaby type of player.
this is y its so important for eddie to have a plan b.
Happy birthday for next week.
"Dan Burn, I can't reach him"
He could be our Batty
Free Kalvin!
We're victims of our own success Europe has killed us
especially that psg debacle!😡
Christ newcastle have a few bad games after almost half the squad being out due to injury and we are already being criticised we are twice the team we were 2/3 years ago 🙄
Phillips was arguably England's best player in the Euros, if we can sign this player then he will improve us immeasurably!
What’s stopping us playing schar with the same duties?
We've got like one backup cb and hes injured.
@@wwedeadman100 that's true. maybe burn can cover cb position. I just don't understand getting phillips, he is clearly not match fit.
Can't see it, he isn't a DM - big difference between CB and DM and we can barely keep two CBs fit as it is. He isn't mobile enough to do the work required of a DM in my opinion. Love the bloke though, don't get me wrong.