Why Harvey Barnes Is Better Than Allan Saint-Maximin
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Harvey Barnes' transfer to Newcastle looks to be complete, while Allan Saint-Maximin is departing for Saudi Arabia. But is it simply a case of Eddie Howe getting an upgrade on the left-wing, or are Newcastle somehow getting worse by getting better?
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I did love Maxi, and I am sad to see him go, Newcastle has a long tradition of mercurial French attacking midfielders, and Maxi was just that. I get why we did it, but .... God, will I miss him. He did a lot for local community too, he also has that game he invented and he was always very pleasant when I saw him in Sainsburys! I wish him the best of luck.
Name those Mercurial French attacking midfielder?....expecting a long list tho...GO!?
@@ato-blakussam-acquah1557 Robert, Ginola, Ben Arfur, whats your point?
@garymuckle1002 Robert who?....my point is newcastle haven't had a long tradition of mercurial frenh attacking midfielders. Get out of my club you fraud!
Yeah there actually is a long line of them. They’ll be another player like that though
@@ato-blakussam-acquah1557
Yohan Cabaye, Remy Cabella , Sylvain Marveaux, Gabriel Obertan, Romain Amalfitano, Yoan Gouffran, Moussa Sissoko...
Sad to see him go, seemed like a genuinely nice guy who was always dropping in to hospitals, food banks etc. Good upgrade for the club but he has been a genuine hero while he has been here.
Harvey Barnes better than ASM .. wow... must have watched something else last season
@@leonhughes9014idiot
Maxi is as the only reason I was watching newcastle for years at one point. I’m gonna miss him more than any player I can remember. He’s a cult hero. Will miss him turning up more bandaged than the last game 😭
You could make the same argument for Antony.... He is exciting to watch 😅
Guess you haven’t watched the for long then
@@verydarkelf7083 20 years mate, not as long as most admittedly but I’ve seen my fair share of dog shit players in the black and white lol
@@kenmay5532
*Antony is shite* it's no wonder his only skill is spinning in circles, seeing as he was born without a right foot.
Maxi was quite possibly the only reason Newcastle were staying up so that anyone could watch them in the Premiership, getting them out of jail and providing the few moments of class (along with Wilson's goals when he wasn't injured).
I genuinely love ASM. He kept me and so many of us going through the dark times. so many moments he got me out of my seat. one of my favourite all time players.
Agree exactly with your feelings I'm not happy to see him go, but I think there is a higher chance that from a goal involvement standpoint Barnes will fit within the system better. Still feel like we have been robbed of at least one magical UCL moment with Maxi had he of stayed
I agree on the UCL... of all the players he deserved it
No no nooooo😢 its terrible news. Its all a mirage, delusion. Just like maddison to spurs. Leicester were relegated with these guys. Maxim was improving under Howe,
I love Maxi, in the same way I loved Hatem Ben Arfur. I feel privileged to have watched them both play for my team. They embody what anyone who watches football should want to see, pure ability with the football, and doing the unexpected and making people say WOW. I do think the time is right now though, to part ways. The team has grown and no longer solely relying on Maxi doing something amazing….though I will still miss him…..I’m ok with it.
Eddie Howe knows exactly what he's doing by bringing a player of Barnes quality and he will fit in our system perfectly and the sort of player we need exactly for the formation and high press. I think he will be our top assist man and most important he can play both sides. So for our system hes better than ASM
Ben arfa is different class, have some respect.
@@azherarbi497 yeah, that’s what I’m saying….loved them both..
@@azherarbi497his own worst enemy all the talent in the world and no effort made, every team he went to thought they could sort him out and then couldn’t wait to get rid.
Oh I really wish we could have kept both! And if Maxi’s transfer out fails last min, I’d kinda be happy about that… but sadly with FFP looming over it did feel inevitable. And as much as I love the excitement that ASM brings, if Barnes gets us closer to silverware then that’s a huge success.
One person does really soften the blow though - Alexander Isak. He doesn’t have quite the same level of magic as Saint-Maximin, but he is an entertainer! The audacity of some of his shots and touches, the way he dribbled and isn’t afraid to take on a man (or entire Everton defence) is absolutely sensational - and all of a sudden becomes even more cherished
A good trade in all faornes but a shame to lose him. We finally have a starting 11 strong enough to cover for his lack of defensive quality and give him the opportunity to focus on what he does best, run at fullbacks. I really thought this year may have been a strong season for him.
He only ran at fullbacks though, nothing else
The thing about ASM is that he's the essence of unpredictability, so when you expect him to have a good season, he would almost certainly not turn up at all.
@@SaturnusDKim sorry but give me an example of when he didn’t turn up besides last season?
I'm cautiously optimistic having seen the stats. But I'm definitely one of those who love ASM. If we get 40 mil or so then fair enough but if we only get 25 as some people are saying id far rather we cut a handful of small value players like Fraser, Dummett, Ritchey, Lascelles etc. Mark my words, there will be a couple of games that we will really need him next year with CL football too. bringing on Barnes isnt gonna be a power move at any point - half the value of ASM is as soon as he comes on he draws the defense towards him and away from the other parts of the pitch. For ASM himself, maybe its best for him to go somewhere where you start games ( though I wouldn't wish saudi football on anyone)
I think we’d all rather a handful of players sold who don’t play the only issue is there are no buyers.
@@SmileyHardstylethat and all the players this chap lists contributing to homegrown quotas. As well as being both worthless and unsaleable.
Edit; absolutely not worthless to us to have around. Another reason they’re staying (Fraser excluded). Just in a monetary sense.
Well said
Maxi is a super fun player to watch, but hes so bloody inconsistent. Yeah, Barnes isnt as flashy, but he will have much more of an impact for us.
plus maxi id never fit and never tracks back and doesnt even knows how to even tackle anybody
A lot of Almirons' goals were down to a give and go with either Trippier or Bruno, so I suspect we'll be as dangerous on the left as the right. However, it'll all be pointless if we keep Bruno as a 6. Joelinton and Joe Willock aren't as skilled as Bruno (and now Toniali) as that level of passing.
Bruno’s playing the 6, mate (at least for much of not all of the time)
You just answered your own question, Tonali is, and he'll rotate with Bruno in game.
@gordonkelly That only makes sense of we're playing with two deep lying playmakers, with someone like Willock acting as a AM (like Bruno played at Lyon). Bruno is most effective as an 8, and struggled in a few games last season. Keeping him as a lone 6 would be a bad idea in my humble opinion. We already saw that against Gateshead.
@@frankbunny5959 he has played in a double pivot, so he can play a deeper position. EH likes flexibility and Tonali provides that. Longstaff rotated (poorly) with Bruno last season, Tonali will do it far better.
Options, we have options. Lots of versatile players, lots of options! We can switch things up without making a sub or make one sub and change the whole way the midfield is working.
We had to swap someone. My biggest regret is that ASM wasn't made to play RW. He obviously fancies himself a cutting in forward, but he's so much more effective running down the right byeline. If you watch his highlight reels, you'll notice a good 30-40% is him on the right, despite the fact he barely ever played there. The 3 games i saw him play RW, not even for the whole game, Bruce always moved him back, he tore teams to pieces. Because he wasn't running into a team of players. Byeline every single time. With Trips to cut back to, or a dinked cross or dribble into the box, his options are limited but effective. Never had the head for the role on the left. Shame, because I'd have him as our RW over anyone at the club. He'd at least be worth 60 rather than 25, which I'm shocked about, particularly given its Saudi money. If it was Milan or someone, yea cud see it. Shame
It’s sad because he himself has said his best position is the 10. His last game for nufc against Gateshead he played there and he was unbelievable. Obviously Gateshead aren’t a big side but still.
Abslutely loved the description of Saint-Maximin and Newcastle as a team player under Bruce. Great stuff 👍🏼
I like Barnes but we lack quality at RW more than the left. Joelinton and Gordon will likely play out there *Isak, Willock, Anderson, Murphy and Ritchie can all cover). On the right, Almiron/Murphy isn't a top 8 attack, let alone top 4.
We buy Barnes for €45m, Villa get Diaby for €50m - time will tell but I think Villa have by far got the better deal - Diaby is 2 years younger with even better g/a record than Barnes, most importantly, he's two-footed (mainly left though) and can play on the right. I really fear Villa this season, they're recruiting so well and Emery seems to have far bigger pulling power than Howe.
Barnes is a classic MONEY BALL signing. Saw an amazing stat today re Saka and Barnes. Appearances 135/146. Goals 31/35. Assists 26/25. Barnes has done that in a relatively shite Leicester side these past few years while Saka has been in one of the most progressive sides. If Saka was sold he'd be at least £100m + Barnes at £35M looks like a Money Ball bargain. Agreed he lacks ASM's (occasional) excitement but on paper he's a massive upgrade. Possible bargain of this summer transfer window.
Sad to see Maxi go, carried our team when no one else could. It's still the right move for the club at this time.
I agree with nearly everything you say, apart from the Bruce bashing, I feel thats the easy cop out, but Bruce did have ASM, and did use that tactic with him,. The one gripe I have with your take on this, is Bruce, and while im not a Bruce fan in any shape or form, the way you set the team up and said this is how Bruce set us up, You have to remember that Saint Rafa played exactly the same way, but he had Miggy to sit and make those long runs with zero support, Pardew used Jonas Gutierrez in this way, turning him from an attacking left winger into some hybrid DMC/LB that burst forward. this whole style of football is not football.
Im not sad to see ASM go, he is a game changer, but only 1 in every 10 games, he wears to many bandages, and by 65 mins you never know if he is tired or injured. what i will give him, he was exciting to watch in dull games, and at that time, you were thankful for those little things.
Im looking forward to this season more than any other in the last 15 years, for once we have a squad, coaches, upper management and mostly the fans all on the same page, and all I hope for is to be challenging top 4 again, be in amongst the so called top teams. 🙏
Remember all those bids that Newcastle had to fend off from top flight PL, European and CL clubs for ASM, just to keep him at our club? No? Me neither.
I think Maxi has been extremely hard done by. He's never really had a chance to rack up some minutes in Howe's system and I think he could have adapted. He was unplayable against City - the best team in the world - at the start of last season, and he was pretty good at the end of the season. He's not just a one-trick pony. His shooting is underrated (he very rarely misses the target), his crossing is massively underrated, and he can use both feet (unlike Mr Almiron). I'm honestly gutted he's leaving, absolutely love the guy.
Great analysis from this fella, really balanced review and reflects the entire sentiment of the army, but enough to get us excited!
Maxi was a spark of joy, a reason to still love football in an otherwise depressing scenario.
For that reason i will always like him, didn't want him to go and ive not heard good things about Barnes from Leicester fans.
The same fans cried when jonjo shelvy went and look at what happened as a result of that
Not an upgrade per se, it's a change in direction, personally it concerns me that we're sacrificing our game changing maverick for someone who can be countered by the kind of positional diligence which you will come up against at the highest level, if the ASM sale is to fund Livramento then I'm even less keen, I think there's a place in the squad for both Barnes & Maxi
Strange outlook there regarding Livramento - Livramento has a much higher ceiling than ASM as a footballer and will end up as a right winger if he signs for Newcastle IMO. He's vastly more effective with the ball than ASM and makes the right decisions in attacking areas, he also speeds the game up rather than slowing it down.
Whilst Maxi was one of those players who could get you out of your seat with his dribbling and pace he just isn't productive at all when it comes to goals and assists. 1 goal and 5 assists with that goal and two assists coming in one game isn't good enough at all and combine that with his lack of pressing and running back and you can see why someone like Harvey Barnes is an upgrade. I also think Eddie Howe is making a concerted effort to keep a decent chunk of home grown/ British players in his squad (signed Pope, Burn, Trippier, TBC Barnes, Targett, Gordon added to Wilson, Murphy, Longstaff, Willock, Lascelles, Dummett, Ritchie and Anderson)
Pain 😢 surely if city can be crowned champions despite the infractions we can break FFP and keep gucci
But for what, though? He rarely shows up as of late, he is either hurt or looking like he'd rather be elsewhere.
@@GhostNappa2k10 Fair point. He might be most useful as an impact sub or against speciic types of teams who press, keep possession and play a high line. But would he be happy just playing a few games or parts of games even when he's fit? Some players can't stand being benchwarmers. (Micky Quinn an obvious example under Keegan).
The other thing is that peoples love of Maxie is essentially cognitive distortion because he did very little over the time but that little was always good. He was like German Tiger tanks in World War Two because (of course he was and) Tigers were very good but they were too few and usually broken down and actually the last thing the nazi swine needed because they were a luxury when they really needed effective numbers. (Is there a prize for most bizarre metaphor?)
I think you win with that one mate. Never thought I'd see a comparison between St Max and the woes of German armour in WW2 😂
@@chrisgoblin4857 Yea, too much coffee I think.
I was thinking of a fun but unreliable sports car against a quick and competent hatchback.
@@iankemp1131 That’s much nicer. And more normal. Much more normal!
Maxi's time is up at NUFC. This has been on the cards since Howe took over. It's the right decision objectively, but still a bitter pill. Ideally, we'd have both - Barnes to play 65 minutes, Maxi to play the last 30 against a tired defence. However, we need money and Maxi is our most saleable asset other than Bruno, Isak, Botman who were never leaving. We need to get used to seeing our favourite players from past seasons leave as we evolve our squad, Miggy will go next Summer, maybe Wilson and Longstaff (UEFA squad rules notwithstanding) too. How we replace them will be key to how we become genuine title challengers. Also, we have Isak to provide the flair we lose with Maxi, and he does it more consistently too. Barnes is an upgrade in almost every sense - output, consistency and less injuries (this is key).
Barnes brought Leicester to degradation, Maximin brought Newcastle United to the champions league, Maximin finally made 5 assists,please use brains ok
It's Newcastle. It's the North East. We're the Entertainers. I'd rather see Maxi in our side and fall short of winning a trophy than Barnes in our side and fall short of winning a trophy. I guess it comes down to Howe believing that the overall side will be improved. The acid test will be whether we win anything, because if not, nothing's gained in any real terms. For me, I'd keep Maxi every time, despite his obvious shortcomings. I want to be excited, I want to be entertained. Under Keegan, we won nothing, but boy, were they special times and for that, you need special players (Ginola's goal v Man Utd anyone? or Albert's? or most of Robert's? Ben Arfa's half way line charge?).
I have no doubt Harvey Barnes is better. I wanted my fucking Arsenal to be linked with Harvey Barnes the whole transfer window 😢😢😢.
Top player and effective goal scorer. But I do appreciate ASM.
Maxi tore Man Citeh* apart last August. I stopped off at Wetherby on the way home from that game (in colours, obvs) and found myself in a sea of Sky Blue. All of them raved about him to me and couldn't believe why 'We hadn't signed him'. He's that good. I will miss him and £25M** is derisory
*European Champions
**Reported fee
Saint max is why you love football. Saint max single handily entertain the region.
Saint max’s name was first chosen when having a kick about the park.
Thank you maxi
Maxi is what your heart would go with
Barnes is what your head would go with
Not really. Maxi is better at unlocking defenses than Barnes does; Barnes just doesn’t have the same skill set Maxi has
@@Jettplayzgames I absolutely love maxi, such an exciting player on his day but what's the point of unlocking a defense if you cant score/assist majority of the time? Barnes numbers don't lie, massive upgrade and right decision for me.
Maxi is what your heart would go with (most entertaining)
Diaby is what your head would go with (younger, better record and potential resale value)
Khavratskhelia is what your soul would go with (Dream signing)
Barnes is what your pocket would go with (couldn't get the above but decent squad player)
I'm certainly never going to go in on Maxi, because he was all of the good things mentioned in the video... however... his injuries and fitness are, dare I say it, his Achilles heel. He missed so many games last season, and then needs about 5 matches to get sharp again. In addition, he is regularly subbed off not long after the hour mark in matches he starts because he runs out of steam. I hope he is luckier with injuries in future and has a good remainder of his career, but usually injury situations get worse rather than better.
I do love maxi to bits, but how many times over the years have we been at a game or watching it on the telly and shouted 'FFS MAXI'!!? just cos he's decided to take on the world on his own or not made the easy pass? I'll still be sad to see him go though!
I'll miss maxi
He's One of the best players for Newcastle united 🥺🥺😭😭😭
Would of loved to of kept Maxi, but I could only see him playing as an impact sub. He didn't have the pressing / defensive aspect of his game to fit into the Howe's gameplan.
Maxi turned it on 3/4 games a season. Also doesn’t have the intensity and graft as the rest of the team. On his day he was amazing. I’m I arsed he’s gone. Not really
Sad to see Maxi leave but with the sale we get 30 or so million added to our FFP spend right now, so we can get Barnes, 8-9 mil a year, and now get a CB, RB, and maybe a squad depth CDM. Unfortunately Diaby is going to Ville.
All Newcastle fans love❤ him and I’m sure the fans of all the other sides in the prem will miss him. Good luck maxi
I do agree with your sentiment, I love maxi and I thank him for the entertainment he's given us, especially during the dark, depressing years. I have nothing but good things to say about him and I wish we could just have both players. But I'm also very excited to welcome in the new players who will hopefully take us up a gear. And Barnes might just be one of those... Exciting times.
I agree and this transfer makes me very sad. I wish we could have both players. Damn FFP
If Barnes is better than Saint Maximin, Real Madrid would've signed him.
It's mind blowing more clubs weren't in for Barnes. He had 13 goals last season as a winger playing for one of the worst teams in the league. $35M is a steal and a huge upgrade to Saint Maximin.
villa and West Ham were in for him. he had already decided where he was going and waited for the fee agreement
I'm hoping Isak can kind of take over in regards to the entertainment that you would get from ASM. ASM was my favourite player but Isak is truly world class
A Great Video would be "How Antony Could Perform Like Saka"
I agree that when ASM was on, he was brilliant to watch. The problem was that he was nowhere near consistent enough. At the end of the day I want my team to win, and I think we will win more with Barnes in the team than ASM.
Who was consistent when Steve Bruce was the manager? Wtf 🥱
Yeah harvey has an end product not just going past a player then fluffing his lines
Super Mac, Chris Waddle, Peter Beardsley, Gazza - players who broke your heart when they left.
Maxi - loved your time here but we are moving on......
A sensational player on his day, but those days were let's face it few and far between.
Barnes plays for another very transitional team in Leicester. Could struggle against oppositions sitting back
4:50 am i missing something or is this just really zoomed in?
Look how opposite the two are.
We’d be far better off having both.
Going to miss that fake limp he puts on.
Lol..love maxi but used to hate that crap,lose the ball pretend your injured,runs round 2 mins later,he simply doesn’t have the mentality to be the player he could be..Harvey Barnes-Yes f@cking please 🏴🏳️
The ASM love in does my head in. He’s a throwback to the old regime and he stood out because he was the only flashy player we had. He’s entirely useless now that we’ve changed systems and brought in better midfielders and forwards. His time is up. Appreciate the couple years of service, but enough is enough. Couple in his injuries and his mercurial temperament and consistency, it’s beyond time he moved on.
Also Isak replicates the exact same dribbling ability that ASM has. He already showed it multiple times last season and even on that Ashby goal in the Rangers match. The club has moved on from needing ASM.
Yeah it's all well and good being exciting on the ball and fast but when it's not productive whats the point? He reminds me of Adam Traore very exciting to watch but it always ends in nothing...
Maxi was the shining light in the darkness that was "Bruce ball"
I'll be gutted to see him go, I think he's one of a kind and like you said, it's not only about numbers
Maxi has the ability to make a world class defender look a tit and turn a boring game on it's head in an instant
If he goes, I'm sure the majority of Newcastle fans will have nothing but fond memories of his time with us
Pre Isak going past 5 players and getting an assist I would have agreed Maxi was irreplaceable as incredibly exciting.
For me, Barnes is nowhere near good enough to warrant getting rid of Maxi for. We've just overspent on an English winger (Though I think Gordon will turn out a good signing) and now we're going to do it again whilst getting rid of our shining light under Bruce?
All these people who were apparently Howe's "Big Targets" are joining other teams and we're getting a relegated winger with one cap...Something's not right here.
I expect us to finish under top 10 and howe to be sacked by the end of this season !!!! We need to spent like crazy !!! What uefa can do ??? Nothing !!!! We will send a bunch of guys with black suits, bring cheferin inside the SA embassy and FFP would be lifted for us next year !!!!
Barnes is so deadly that he got Leicester relegated.
Once again, fantastic video. I always feel that much better after watching your analyses.
barnes doesn't turn up in the big games but does really well against the lessor teams.
maxi turns up against the big teams but goes missing in the lessor games
Maybe that's because Barnes' one-twos work well when you have possession and territory, and ASM's runs are best when you are pinned back.
ASM was always a heart attack to watch but he has become an expensive luxury on this team. I am happy he will get to express his “joie de vivre” to adoring fans of another club who can also fall in love with his talents.
Welcome Harvey and howay the lads!
Saint-Maximin is my favourite player and he was the one who got me support Newcastle... It's sad that he's leaving... Wish they could just sell someone else else but whatever happens ASM is my player and Newcastle is my team...
“They way this system - bunny ears ‘worked’ - bunny ears” just says it all.
Harvey Barnes will become a much better player under EH where as Maxie has got about as good as he’s gonna get. I must admit that I’ve always moaned about Maxie although with the expected low block we’ll need a ASM type player but maybe just not ASM!
Nice Tash, btw.
You are without doubt the most inciteful commentator with regards to NUFC. I await your videos with great anticipation. Please never ever stop posting. Many Thanks.
Your vids are great, my man. Keep up the good work! 👍
Also, I'll miss Maxi a lot for what he did as a player, but I'm even more excited for what Newcastle can do as a team with Barnes in it.
why arent we going for diaby...we've wanted him long enough
Signed for Villa
Love this vid and feel much the same - I would say maxi will be missed in games where an impact sub is needed to give us something completely different - particular in champs league.
Really good explanation, including the description of the Steve Bruce era. Love the pregnant pause - " it ..... worked". Just often enough to save them from relegation. Barnes' one-twos should be really good at unlocking packed defences. But Saint-Maximin could do things that nobody else could, and turn a game. I'm greedy, I would want them both, maybe in the same team. Newcastle nowadays are solid enough that they could probably manage with one luxury player. And they need a bigger squad to cope with Champions League. ASM might be useful in any games where Newcastle aren't able to dominate possession and territory - against Man City for example?
I hear what you're saying bruv there was also the problems with injuries for ASM but Barnes is not elite, we need at least 1 elite winger - Gordon is still developing.
I don’t think you’re gonna see this summed up any better from a Newcastle Fans perspective.
Ideally I’m sure we would have loved to keep Maxi and add Barnes, but, FFP seems to be helping to tip the scale.
Quoting Bruce’s team now is surreal. Dubravka, Murphy, Krafth, Lascelles, Clark, Ritchie, Almiron, Hayden, Shelvey, ASM, Wilson. By God, we have improved.
I would love to have kept him, I think he would have shone in the CL. It was always a thrill to see him pick the ball up in the middle of the park, when he starts twisting and turning towards the goal leaving the opposition on it's arse. But truth be told, more often he ran like a headless chicken, lost the ball, fell over and limped around pretending to be injured. That was really frustrating. But, I still think he can do what no other player can do and has a way of weaving through parked buses and creating something. There will be times next season when we will really miss that.
Barnes better than Maxi??!!! Is Barnes quicker than Maxi? NO. Is Barnes better dribbler than Maxi? NO😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love this guy! Kills me that so many people speak badly of him. But the way I see it is in a few years time. Everyone will speak of him glowingly as they do. Ben afaria. And it's quite possible at the time people were saying the same thing about him when he was still playing for the team.
Ben Afria? Yohan kebab? Charles insomnia? Joe kinnear is that you?
Another excellent analysis of what qualities players have to benefit the team. Although I did enjoy Maxi, I do feel it's time for the change. When Isak played on Left he was just as destructive as Maxi. Barnes has unbelievable stats, yes he doesn't excite me as a signing however after the takeover I trust in what Howe & his team is doing.
I'd have kept a hold of maxi for 25m not worth selling him for that, surely could have got that from selling all the deadwood
Hey Adam, you’ve articulated how I feel about these transfers perfectly. I’m sure Barnes will do well at the toon, but I’m devastated at losing Magic man, because I’ve never played football manager, & I’m one of those people that watch football to be excited & love players that get you off your seat & try things …. it might not come off, but it’s exciting watching him try.
I absolutely love the way you take the piss out of Steve Bruce!!! He was a total clown and you DON'T hide it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love Maxi, and hate to see him go, especially if it's only for 25 million. If he stayed for next season and was free of injury I could have really imagine him kicking on to another level. That said... I like Barnes, he'll fit in well and hopefully do even better than he has for Leicester. Maybe toon fans will just get to enjoy seeing more goals go in
honestly 1 yr later, and injuries aside, we could have used St. Maximin and Barnes didnt offer much when he did play. ASM would have helped in Champions leagues and cup games where we couldn't find penetration. ASM played for the badge, and would have been a great option on the right. IMO hindsight is 20/20 and I agreed with this article when the trade happened, but no longer do I agree.
Very interesting take, I like the personal side of it. I’m not a Newcastle fan, but I agree, we need to appreciate the players who bring us joy and excite us more than we do.
Completely understand. It was TUGAY leaving who broke this Rover’s heart
Hey Adam, you'll be happier celebrating 13+ goals from Barnes than you were celebrating ASM's stepovers.
The problem I have with this transfer is WHY IS IT NECESSARY. I get the whole FFP palaver… blah blah blah we keep talking about it. But surely, in this season more than ever, we need both players to unlock defences, and in different ways. It seems shortsighted to get rid of an impact player.
Regarding FFP… the fines are stupid. The rules are stupid. Say this quietly… but I reckon Newcastle should have just not cared, like Barcelona and Man united.
We are 100% going to be more predictable - too predictable - and we will miss ASM.
My prediction: bottom of the group in champions league, out early in the FA cup, and 8th in the league.
Maxi was entertaining. He definitely should have scored more. He would have had more assists, though, if Willock and Longstaff didnt have Toblerones for feet.
Will 100% miss Maxi, absolute baller. However the injury prone problems (not blaming him) and the games we need to play, as well as the style it's hard to drop players to fit him in and I don't think he wants off the bench cameos... sad day, but Barnes is a great replacement for the way NUFC play.
The streets won't forget ASM.
I love Maxi and I do understand about reason why he have to leave (FFP). But I don't understand and feel upset is his value market price.. It's just only 30-35 M ?? common his price better than that..
Maxi is a great individual player, but the team is now playing as a system so he brought Barnes, all the best to Maxi and our great club,NEWCASTLE forever
Despite the rest of my pointed comment I actually agree with you. I'm going to miss ASM too. Wondering if this game is going to be a Maxi-Magic one or not made games exciting. It should have been a case of both Barnes and Maxi available to share that role. After all, the point of the takeover was we would not be a club that had to sell our best players to buy others. The number of times people said that should not be forgotten.
Nonetheless and with any luck he will go to a Saudi club. Given those very dubious saudi-sharia business practices. We will get him back in a season or two, having outwitted the FFP rules with cries of islamophobia, victimisation and prejudice. There being a god given buy back clause with an agreed fee of £1 - Imshalla. NOTE: Piss taking is fully intended.
Maxi will not mind because the personal fortune he will receive both on and off the inland revenue books, will be immense. His Swiss bank account(s) will suddenly outpace many small nations GDP. He will be paid in gold bullion and diamonds. Jeez, I wish I had his talent and earning potential. Best wishes to the lad. I'd do exactly the same thing.
Nice take on the Barnes/ASM debate. We all love a 'maverick' player, but time moves on, and things change. The game has changed. If Barnes continues with his stats (goals & assists) he will become loved and ASM will be not forgotten, but a distant memory, a bit like an ex lass, who gets replaced by a 'keeper'. Times change.
I'm not sad to see ASM go, he's inconsistent, 1 good game in 10, final ball is awful, headless chicken most games, injury prone, Barnes is far better for the new style of play Eddie has got them playing, ASM has produced some nice things at times in a very shit side ⚫️⚪️⚫️⚪️
I think you've absolutely summed it up perfectly there. Barnes is a great player, great signing and is a better fit for this new Newcastle jigsaw Eddie is making...but I just absolutely adored ASM and you're right, he's why you watch football. He's a personality on and off the pitch and he was a joy to have in the team.
It's bittersweet.
Yup. That pretty much sums it up.
Maxi's been brilliant for us _when it clicks_, but I think he's reached his top level. Going into the CL, and continue to push the league and cups, he could definitely be that same(ish) player for us, but I don't think he could ever elevate his individual performance and help the collective progress (much) further. In this case, my scale is tipping slighly in the direction of Barnes being an upgrade in pure numbers rather than Maxi being more of a "football fan's player".
Brilliant op. Ed. I find myself completely agreeing with you, but I’m excited to see Barnes playing for us this season and happy for Maxi getting the move he wanted. Thanks for all the years of hard work for us
I am in the Elated camp - not cos he's French - we have had other French wingers in the past Ginola, Robert even HBA. St Maximin has divided opinion of course. For me, it's about numbers and Barnes for example is great with them ..
WBA fan here. Brilliant vid, but i do however think its slightly reductive to simply say Saint Maximin is exciting and thus Barnes is boring. If you have watched Barnes over 90 minutes week in week out, rather than just highlights, he is such an exciting player and is so much more than just a give-and-go-merchant. His loan spell at West Brom absolutely highlighted his all round game. He may not be a technically gifted dribbler in terms of taking defenders on, but he is absolutely rapid and is great at carrying the ball over large distances at speed. He's great at shooting at goal from distance too, as well as being pretty decent positionally when asked to track back. Ultimately, when he gets the ball out wide, more often than not something happens, and surely that's exactly what you want from your winger?
I understand the upset about Saint Maximin, and he is a fabulous talent. We saw Matheus Pereira do things most of us have never seen in a WBA shirt for 2 seasons, only to follow the Saudi money too. He was replaced by Alex Mowatt. Imagine how that feels.
Maxi is the most frustrating player. Even under Bruce, he constantly gave the ball away trying to play his way out of situations, making errant passes, etc. 10% of the time he would do something impressive, but the other 90% he looked terrible. Is that “exciting?” I guess. Dribbling past people is only good for a highlight reel if it doesn’t have an end product. I’d much rather watch a consistent player put in a shift than a player who runs 50m up the pitch and promptly gives the ball away, even if he dribbled past a couple of players in the process.
I'm not sad to see Maxi go, I'm disappointed. He had so much potential to better himself and become a legend under Howe but when I watched him against Gateshead in the first pre season friendly, I saw the old ASM. No tracking back, low workrate when out of possession. A player like ASM could and should be scoring hatricks against teams like gateshead (no disrespect to the Heed). So I'm happy we've found a replacement who is also young and more consistent.
You totally echo my feelings. Objectively, the swap seems to make sense, the numbers don’t lie. However, I work in qualitative research and so numbers don’t tell me the full picture. ASM was a joy to watch and for that reason alone I’m sad he’s leaving, like I was when David Kelly left which was also rationally the right decision. Ultimately we should look back fondly on Maxi’s time as the one shining light in the utter dross that was Bruceball, then we must clear our eyes and focus firmly on the brighter future ahead.