Success Turned Into A Dumpster Fire // Project Focus Rally Car
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Installing a rear European spec MK1 Focus ST170 rear bumper and Focus RS replica front bumper on my 2002 Ford Focus SVT rally project.
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Suggestion for you Sarah: Take the SVT bumper and make a mold and fiberglass copy it (bunch of Utube vids n how to do it)...at least then you'll have the rare SVT looking bumper and if you tear it up in the dirt you can make more and never damage the original :D win win
Ron Gray wow, i like that idea
That’s what I would do.
This
Ron Gray it’s not worth my time, I can buy a quality bumper for around $500. It would take me a week+ of videos just to fabricate that.
@@SarahnTuned but how long would it take to get it. If you get an oe bumper from the junkyard no problem. But if you get it online by the time you received it you might have done a fiberglass copy. Food for thought.
Speaking on behalf of the UK, we'd be happy to send you parts. US bumpers are way too big, just look at the mess they made of the MGB with the rubber bumpers
Probably the best example you could use...MGB. My dad had one(here in the States)and it was atrocious compared to the Euro version.
Soooo right! Until then it was my favourite affordable-ish UK sportscar. Look at the mess it made of the Jaguars too.
Didn't our European Focuses have much wider flared front arches than the stock ones, explaining the extra width of that weird front bumper moulding/cover?
I’m looking for a front MK1 focus bumper.
That bumper has China all over it, not the US...
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Most people in Germany don't know, that you're only allowed to turn on those rear fog lights (Nebelschlussleuchten in German), if the visibility is below 50 m (55 yards) which also means, that you're only allowed to drive at most 50 km/h (31 mph). I've been driving over 20 years now and I get in those conditions maybe once every 4 years ... Although everyone did have to learn it, to pass the license exam, most people seem to forget after a few years. I bet, that many don't even know where the switch is in their car and what it does ...
Same in Italy. The fog light use a 21W lamp,, same as stop light. if you use it without need is very annoying the car behind you. But very useful in REAL fog.
Nebelschlussleuchten?
Richtig ;-)
Same in France.
Same in The Netherlands
Speaking as someone who's been around rally for a while, I'd go with the zx3 bumper. You're going bang them up, you're gonna stitch them back together with zip ties. Bumper skins are almost consumables. I'm betting that zx3 bumpers are at least reasonably available.
The Focus RS has wider wheel arches , that’s why the bumper sticks out the sides.
Stephen JC Not in the case, what you cannot see in the video is that the front of the bumper under the headlights itself is too wide/deep, the flares are irrelevant to what I’m trying to show. That and the fact the quality overall is atrocious, it would take 20 hours in bodywork alone just to get it remotely respectable looking.
That's not an RS bumper.
Sarah -n- Tuned ahh ok, sorry. My comment seems a little dry haha. The idea popped into my head and I wrote it down . I like the Rally car idea as not many are doing that. 👌🏼
@@SarahnTuned I have just converted my mk1 SVT or st170 as its called in uk into a RS Focus. Fitting the front bumper was one of my toughest accomplishments. Its true the headlight area is also troublesome because although not immediately obvious the RS front wing meets the headlights with a straighter edge than SVT. The front wings are also a lot wider. Make no mistake the RS is as the title would suggest a racing rally car in every sense.
1:44 - Bumpers include a large stuffed Penguin - Nice!
L❤️ve seeing Butters 😻
Me too 👍
Yep, put an ordinary Focus bumper cover on the rally car. It’ll fit and you’re probably going to need to modify it to fit your rally light mounts. They made a zillion of them and it’s a semi expendable part on a rally car...
just..that was my thought too 4 or 6 light and its not much of the front to see
The front bumper cover will get destroyed over and over so a $25 junkyard ZX3 bumper cover would be my first choice... nut-sert the backing beam for the lighting.
Front bumper is a copy of a copy of a copy. People would use Spoon kits to copy, then make copies of the copies. You end up with a low budget body kit - perfect for Rally. If it gets trashed, no real loss
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Rear: Round tube crash bar using the OEM mounting points for the factory bumper beam. Then you can add a threaded bung for the European tow hook. Front: OEM base model Focus bumper cover. You want a part that is easily sourced and replaced, because Rally car. If you modify that POS you bought it’s a one off you can’t easily fix or replace. Keep the front stock ZX2 and carry on.
Hi from Alberta Canada! I daily drive SVT Focus production number 4165 which is a twin to yours and 100% stock. I’ve just been focusing (pun intended) on keeping mine safe and reliable to get to work but I love your build so far. These are some obscure little cars so it’s nice to see somebody enjoying one! Don’t see a lot of them around anymore that aren’t totally rusted out up here!
I always enjoy your videos. I can't understand how someone from the New England area settles in an oven, like Arizona. You are tuff, and more tolerant than I am to the heat. Keep the great videos coming.
Fun fact about the svt rear bumper. Ford created it to allow them to run an even bigger wing on the 03-04 focus wrc group A car. Also you picked up the RS width front bumper. There were two replica widths made. You can easily roll/ pull the front fenders out. Or find the wider RS fenders. 🙂. Easiest is the standard 00-04 focus front bumper. Cheap and plentiful if you get wild off road.
Inject the empty space in the rear bumper cover with spray foam. It will support it without having to make a custom beam. Spray mold-release first so that it still comes off easy when needed.
You sure that was a Focus bumper ? Looked like someone’s school project effort 😆
I just saw an opportunity for some ultra wide fenders :D
anydaynow flares wouldn’t fix this.
Looked like an MK1 RS front bumper to me and they had flared fenders.
Sara, you are great, you liked the way you talk and the way you work, you are industrious, you don't care about anything, you really are great.❤❤❤❤❤
Hi Sarah, the bumper beam is not intended to provide structural stiffness. The objetive of body's stiffness is to maintain the suspension's geometry under dynamic loads like bumps or lateral forces in turns. The basic idea is to keep the 4 wheels in the same plane all the time, or if you prefer prevent the car's cage from twisting. Therefore a beam hanging ah the rear of the car cannot do much. Those beams are designed to absorb crashes while offering some degree of pedestrians protection.
I think a tubular welded bumper is the way to go. You can practice your welding. You can do it!!
Weld up a Mad Max front bumper with push bars, a winch, chains, hanging down, lots of lights, and a seat for Charlie. What a lovely day!
Have Charlie make a tube bumper. If you are really going to rally the car the front is going to get trashed anyway. You can also practice your welding skills and weld some plates to the tube bumper if you don’t want it so exposed. Keep it up Sarah!
Sarah... Get a large piece of foam, shape your bumper with design features you want and use that as a form to mold your front bumper using carbon fiber. Very strong and very light weight. With your skill level it would be easy and much better than the POS bumper you purchased. Anyway best of luck. Enjoy seeing you get into it all and the depth of your mechanical and electrical knowledge. :)
Its genuinely fun watching your videos, well done on not doing things half-arsed. 👍🏻
The RS had a wider shell but it was in the fenders, the main shell dimensions were the same. Looks like someone guess the bumper dimensions. You probably could make it fit, but you want something if you wreck it you bolt another on not a bespoke hand fitted one. Keep up the great work.
I bought a cheap fiberglass bumper for a lancer rebuild I did. I had about 6hrs in bodywork and fitting.
Hi Sarah, Please be careful, two up in the rear. Thank goodness you were talking about the seat adjustment.
In the UK we have some useful websites that link all the breakers yards
together so you can source parts from across the country and get them
delivered. Never used them but they'll probably send overseas... Fords (European style) are pretty popular here.
I share your pain with aftermarket. When you have a vehicle that isn't in the zone for mods and upgrades anymore the aftermarket stuff is more of a curse than a blessing sometimes. False sense of being able to do jobs cheap and easily.
Thanks for sharing.👍
Just split it down the middle cut the right amount out, and make sure you mount each half solid. There's a few ways to deal with the split in the middle. If cosmetics aren't important, tape it.
I always appreciate that you clean before you repair or replace. Such a great discipline to have.
You should definitely get on the focus fanatics forum page. All kinds of parts for sale and people who have a vast knowledge of all the focus parts.
Hot dogs? Only Sarah can get away with comedy like that. I love Sarah n Tuned.
Sarah Please please use PPE, glasses, hair net (base ball cap) and gloves when using grinder/hand held power tools.
That gen 1 rs bumper need the fenders to match the rc is about 3 to 4inch wider the stock focus
Another thin I would pull off is the side skirts and go OEM ZX3 but that's only if you trying to save semi wanted parts
There are a few other things that I would do if you are going to rally
Like change to 2006 and up nuckles and hubs you will need .188 adapter sleeves
But the later model focus lower ball joints and can still run svt clappers and rotors
I shared your video on the North America Rally Facebook group. Plenty in the rally family run Foci and will help!
I just chuckle to myself when I see something dirty, I know it's going to be cleaned.
This is a really cool project. I dig the fabrication work too!
Like 2 geese reunited, you and chuck are one? Hella stoked on your whip can't wait to see you slaying stages
Interesting fact, the focus wrc had the American spec rear bumper because it hid a cold air storage tank which stored excess air from the turbo which they would reuse when on full throttle again eliminating turbo lag
Home girl said, "WHAT ARE YOU?!?!" lmao 😂😂😂
For the front bumper, you could get a cheap stock focus bumper and modify it to fit rally lights, and you won't feel bad about hacking it up because it's a cheap stock one (you can probably find them at a junk yard).
Or you could custom fabricate a front bumper out of steel or aluminum like Jeeps and off-road trucks that have bull/bash bars, integrated into the front skid plate, plenty of space to mount lights and maybe a winch... It would take more time than buying a plastic bumper but it would last a lot longer and let you show off the unique design.
The rear fog light we using here in Europe when visibility will fall below 50 meters.
In other circumstances it blinds other drivers and you can get ticket for that. Also u can use it not only on Autobahns...
Yeah just get a factory front bumper and do your own mods to it, lights, ducting for brakes and what not. You got this!
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Without having to purchase or build a whole new bumper, take the OEM bumper and mirror the aftermarket one to it. You'll gain experience, that way if you damage it you can fix it. Just saying, that's what I do.
Just Had A1/2 mm piece of grinding wheel removed from my eye today. Sarah, please wear some goggles.
“PENGUIN!!! Ohhhh.....I see what’s goin on here....... So sorry to interrupt!!! Proceed......” - Billy Madison
Lol 1 up I the front and 2 up in the rear.....😁😁 What a reverse shocker.
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Cut the bumper and 1/2 put one side on to the center then put the other side on cut it too but up to the first and then just fill in the seem where the two pieces meet
The RS focus bumper is a different width to a standard focus because the RS focus has wide arched fenders that are bespoke to the RS
Ever heard of wire tie stitches? We used to use them on broken dirt bike plastics. Um, race car? I see where you could take some pie slices out of the bumper to line it up. Then stitch it back up. I think those stitches look tough and maybe you get in their heads a little.
Best laid plans....
I would put a plate and bent tube bumper on the rear, to replace the 5mph one you removed. It’s very light weight and plenty strong. A stock junkyard bumper would be okay for the front. You could always customize it a bit if you wanted to change the look.
Hey Sarah, love the fact you knew that "Freeways" in the UK are called Motorways. On the subject of Fog lights, they are a joke!! People use them when it's raining, giving the whole rear end of their car a blinding red glow fro behind. Most drivers don't know when to use them and when they should be switched off. I wish they would be outlawed...
While that front bumper looks off you may be able to compensate by pulling the front fenders outward to meet up to the "wandering" edge.
Hey, I wanna say I hope your channel grows. You are funny and smart. And it's inspired me to do my project on ford focus
You and Charlie are great together!
Hate it when parts don't fit. And clearly you are one not happy camper. Make a mold of the desired bumper, and then sell copies. That could in itself be a cottage industry. Two of my lots of daughters, the two who are identical twins, had matching ZX3's earlier this century. Nice cars. Had potential, I thought. Love the work ethic you have. Hard to explain to to others why 12 hours straight in the garage doesn't feel like any time has passed. Keep on Truckin', and thanks!
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Rectangle tubing for rear bumper support.
Ditch front bumper, add skid plate.
Then you don't have to worry about getting air then tearing up the bumper and sending it under the car.
That mk1 RS replica looks like it's for a 2nd gen Focus. The US only got 1st and 3rd gen Foci, never a second gen that was a shared platform with the Volvo P1 cars.
Careful with those cutoff wheels, I've watched one break apart into a tech's femoral before, wasn't pretty; I had to replace my passenger's seat after the drive to the ER.
Ditch the bumper bar, modify a standard bumper and fabricate a radiator support. The other bumper problem was probably the fact the RS has wider arches.
Throw a stock front bumper on it, fab up a small nudge bar for the front, and have the nudge bar wrap under the bumper to join radiator protection.
Well I think it’s really awesome that you’re building a rally car Sarah! I am excited for you to complete the project and take it for a ride! I look forward to seeing the progress on Mr. cods worth
Don`t worry,be happy,stay focused,on the focus!.
It's been 28-29C where I live in Canada and around 30-60% humidity. I hate it, I started sweating today while putting groceries in the car.
roll cage your got all the rigidity you need
If the wheel arches and body lines are close, you might try taking a chunk out of the center and re-gluing it with appropriate materials.
Mount the co-drivers seat as low as possible. It'll keep your CG low, increase the driver's visibility and also increase the co-drivers safety.
Everyone needs an expert fabricator friend like Charlie!
lowerd bumpers are like parashoot that drags... need some rear defusser or cardbord box to get flater speed
The bumper issue is the exact same issue I ran into!!!!!!! Ordered for an 03 Jetta.. Came and it fits exactly as your does... As in its not even remote close to fitting!!!!!
Before you figure out what you wanna do with a new bumper make sure you wash the undercarriage because the dirt will be extra weight
Sarah re: European Foglights...... At least in Germany, where I grew up, the fog lights are "only" to be used during inclement weather with a visibility in fog of less than 100 meter, or 101 yards..... they shine 10 times brighter than regular brake lights..... but yes, when you (erm I) flew on the fastlane, headlights on, left blinker on, everybody knows, a car fast AF is coming on.... makes it easy to see, when you come on to those lights, especially when you're going in excess of 250 km/H or 130+ MP/H..... Great video, as usual, your content rocks.
Just FYI, that F2 RS bumper is for a F2 widebody kit which is long long discontinued. I like the videos! Try find a base model UK spec bumper!
I'm looking forward to seeing you next year on my stages at the New England Forest Rally.
Of course the cheapest part of rallying is building the car $$.
Yeah, so there's a different rear rebar for the European market... The Euro part bolts right up I believe. Both the front and rear crash bars are made of super hard steel. If you need to drill either for anything you better get a few extra drill bits (or cutoff wheels, as you've found out).
"Some kind of rainbow dung beetle.... who's drunk" I love your commentary lol
Lovely Jubbly from the UK to Sarah.
Hey Sarah, I may be wrong, but the Mk1 Focus RS had widened front arches because it had a wider track. Probably why your new bumper doesn’t fit. Don’t waste your money getting an RS replacement unless your putting big arches on that thing. I’m English so very jealous of the lovely weather you always have on your channel👌🏻
Try measuring the RS front bumper along with the SVT bumper and see if you can shorten/customize the SVT bumper.
Your bumper looks great.
Thanks for changing out the gloves before they melted to your hands, also check out zip cut exploding accident videos. They burry themselves in your face. Hello from Saskatchatoon!
DELTA N9NE I did melt one, that’s why 😂
@@SarahnTuned Time to have the penguin squad on stand by with a fire extinguisher!
This is from focusfanatics dot com: "The F2 front bumper is no wider than the stock front bumper, the only thing F2 did was add fender flares to give it the appearance of being wider." Maybe adding fender flares is an option?
yeah that's what I thought, this bumper is designed for flares
Alvaro Amaya no, it’s way more than just that. The overall bumper is deeper and actually uneven in the way it was made. The amount of labor just to get the lines smooth and uniform would be more than it’s worth. When I said it looked like it was carved out of soap, I wasn’t joking.
The WRC bumper does have flares, however, the bumper itself is no larger/smaller in any other dimension.
I doubt this was from f2 as they've long since closed shop. Its probably the extreme dimensions 3rd hand ripoff.
Standard bumper. Once you make a skid guard and spot light mounts it will be full of holes anyhow
You think of maybe just fabbing something up? Get some sheet metal and steel tube and make a bumper. You are already fabbing up some support for the rad and steel underplate. Like you said it's going to get beat up. Make it out of something stronger than plastic and fiberglass. Not sure about weight but wouldn't hurt to look into it. Can't be any worse than whatever that was you bought.
Those cut off wheels are death wheels. I dropped a grinder on my foot last year and almost cut 2 toes off. 3 surgeries to repair , then i got a bone infection.
Sarah , the rs replica bumper won’t work since that car was wide bodied from the factory , I would look for another after market bumper or a zx3. I’m currently restoring a svt and looking into that rs bumper as well. They don’t make the replica fender flares anymore
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What about split the bumper straight down the center and work the fitment from the outside in and then refabricate the center
Carbon Anna - that would be a great project name
Assuming you can't return that one... I would cut it down so that you make the lower spliter and radiator guard out of metal and octagon mesh and the fiberglass part just to frame in the headlights and seam to the bumper.
Though a fair point is if we all started to return the junk aftermarket parts that don't fit vs making them fit the market would improve. Though the $150 to ship a $200 part back is why I have random aftermarket parts that were never used.
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That fog light story i've never heard before here in Europe. PS: RS bumper hence more wide, fender flares would looks great with that bumper on.
J024 it’s not just wider at the flare, the entire bumper was wider and misshaped.
@@SarahnTuned Thats a bummer...
Unfortunate about the replacement bumper. I agree that a stock used bumper from a junkyard is your best choice. Believe me.. it won't be the first bumper the car sees!! (retired amateur rally driver). Keep your costs down!
It is so hot that I left the toilet seat up just to get icy stares from my girlfriend ! Oh and it is so hot that I saw a tree chase a dog !
Thats Twosuck Az. In the summer,..been enduring 40 of these bad boys...Wake me up when Sept. Ends...lol
Rear bumper cover looks great. Sounds like your welding education project has it in mind already, but running a tube front bash guard a la Adam LZ style would be cool and saves from having to look for front bumper covers anyway.
Maybe you can take a mould off you original one and glass a new one whenever you need to replace it. Wouldn't be hard for someone with your aptatud
Had an ST170 16 years ago handled well just needed abit more punch, those bumper bars are massive 🤯 and the that rep RS bumper I'd horrid 😬 Hope you can get a better part to save some time modifying.
Like adam lz drift 350z. Its a rally car. Think running over stuff. Bash bar is all you are going to need.
I had a 2000 SVT focus and it was a fun car. 6 speed manual was fun.
Bummer about the front bumper. I'm empathetic, currently trying to fit a 20 year old fiberglass Sierra RS Cosworth replica bumper to my XR4TI. I will say that with adequate amounts of patience and time applied, it's starting to fit okay. Might be the same with that Focus RS replica: patience and time working it. Whatever you decide, I'm looking forward to seeing more progress on the FoRS
It's so hot I saw a dog chasing a cat and they were both walking. That bumper looks like it was made for a wide body kit. Great video Sarah