Does ADHD Medication Stop Working?
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- Опубликовано: 9 ноя 2023
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ADHD Medication tolerance is a scary topic and a lot of people suffer in silence. Things are hard enough for us as it is, so this needs to be discussed more!
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I was on the same dose of Vyvanse for over 10 years and it’s effects never decreased for me.
I hope it will be same for me with Ritalin!
That's so awesome! It should be like this for 70-ish % of us, so I hope that's the case for me and others watching too :)
I did read that a lot of people confuse the motivation and mood boost with the medication not working, so that's probably why so many are afraid (including me).
As it turns out, the mood boost and motivation is just a bonus, not the actual effect we should be looking for. The actual effect is focus, and that's still incredible!
@@AntoniasUniverse I switched to Mydayis in August and that stuff works “in the background”, therefore, you don’t really feel it kicking in. There’s no energy boost or anything but it works super smooth and it’s the best med I’ve taken. It lasts all day.
@@GoADHDGo That sounds great! I'm sooo happy for you! ^^
@@GoADHDGo May I ask why you switched if it was working well? Like, did you just hear good things about your new medication and decide to try it out? Or is there something else you can recommend that would be helpful for us to remember to think about in order to realise that maybe we should consider switching things up?
Great to have people like you that make these videos so others can be aware as well, many thanks
I just passed the two year mark on Adderall XR. I've went from 15mg to 25mg, but so far I've been on 25mg the longest (11 months now) and it seems to be holding. At 25mg, I discovered that exercising first thing in the morning had a profound benefit. Now, I can't help but exercise, even if it's just for 10 minutes... but most days it's 30 minutes. I do this before the meds kick in. Somehow stimulants are causing me to make healthier life choices. They have given me the strength to work on myself first, and everything has gotten easier. I still have thought spirals sometimes, but I'd rather be moving forward, and constantly improving on myself than just staring at my computer screen doing nothing like I was 2 years ago. 😊
I totally relate to all of that! I felt exactly the same! Suddenly I could adult and healthier choices were just the obvious thing to do! 😃
I started taking Mydayis and I exercise in the morning because it seems to really boost the Mydayis benefits.
Mydayis is basically Adderall XR XR. It’s released in 3 waves instead of 2. It also works in the “background” and you don’t really feel it kicking in, however you will notice it working.
Same! I CAN’T not exercise in the morning anymore and it’s made my life SO MUCH BETTER ☺️ I’m so happy for you too!!
Thank you for this video! Very insightful. I read somewhere (and my psych told me) that neuroplasticity can be our friend over time. If we use the full effect of our medication to implement systems and strategies, they may still work even if we develop some tolerance. Because our brains have built some new neural pathways. So, as far as I understand, there's hope we won't return to where we were without meds.
Also, many people experience a honeymoon period when they start taking the meds, which inevitably passes after some time. This could also feel like the meds aren't as effective anymore.
100% this! It’s true. I really hope it’s a tiny portion of people that build a full tolerance and that most of us can live wholesome, better lives for as long as possible ❤️
@@AntoniasUniverse I hope so too! We all deserve a good life 👏❤️
Hi! I’ve been taking Vyvanse for over 4 years. I currently take Vyvanse with Wellbutrin and it has been a game changer for me. Thank you for posting
You can build up a tolerance, yes. But i also think it depends on nutrition aswell. I notice since stsrting B complex, my Vyvanse lasts so much longer and the crash isnt as bad.
That’s very interesting, thank you! 😊
That’s a really interesting point, I need to research that! Thank you 😊
This video came at the perfect time. I've been on 40mg just shy of a year now. And I've found myself questioning whether it's working as effectively as before. I definitely notice a huge difference in effectiveness during different parts of my cycle - but overall I was starting to wonder if I should be increasing my dosage, while I'm not against it, I'm trying to prolong doing so, hoping my tolerance doesn't increase as quickly. Overall, my focus has improved and when I'm having periods where I struggle, I've been able to develop some strategies that help me stay on track better.
Great video
Amazing content Toni! You are an inspiration 🤩
Thank you for sharing your own experience with this sensible topic. I hope that this might help some people that are afraid of those questions themselfs.
I hope so!
Really glad you make these vids
Just got diagnosed and am starting meds
I’m so excited for you and so happy this helps! I wish you lots of success and an amazing new life on meds ☺️
Im about to step into the medication world and your info has been really helpful.. thanks for avoiding procrastination and releasing this video..
@coolfuckery DONT DO IT!!! you will NEVER get out of the System. I wish someone had warned me in 2012/2013. Seriously look for natural supplements, vitamins, get your blood drawn and look for things causing whatever it ailing you, and work out and get outside and in nature. I am being SO honest with you. Ive been on Celexa, Adderall, and Xanax since 2012/2013 and its been a NIGHTMARE i want off but the side effects and withdrawals i can't handle. Please please please look at other options before you get on medication. your Brain and body chemistry will NEVER be the same.
I don’t think it’s tolerance but a combination of factors. I am a movement trainer (very broad way of workout) after 5- 6 months the effects changed. The big difference is that it’s not like before but i don’t feel a difference anymore. Maybe i should up my dose i don’t know actually.
I feel like it's our bodies getting used to it and so it seems more subtle, but I can definitely notice when I don't have it
I have a Very high tolerance for most of my meds, yes even Adderall 30 mgs 2wice a day, unfortunately my doctor took me and kept me off of them. I'm a bit older now and that's why I had to stop taking them.
I still have a hard time focusing, actually I still struggle with Adhd. But I'm on different meds that sorta keep me focused.
Hi!
when i was 11, I started on vyvanse. when I was 12, I had worked my way up to 70mL, the maximum for someone under 25 in australia. It didn't work by the time i was 13.
so yeah, it does stop working. my sleep worsened even more, i got dangerously close to being underweight, i had migranes- not much went well.
now, I'm trying out long-acting dex, 20mL and 10mL in the afternoon if i need to focus. there are bad side affects, there always will be, like a loss of appetite, occasional migranes, an increase to my insomnia, but i only need to take it when i need to focus, so holidays and weekends i dont take it (though i do need to ease myself back into full dosage after holidays otherwise my emotions go crazy.)
anyways, enough rambling- to answer your question, for me, at least, yeah. they do loose their effectiveness.
Gaining tolerance in just 1 week is absurd. I’ve taken oxycodone for a year and my tolerance has barely gone up.. the concerta 54 mg only worked for a week, then I had a few days off and it worked again.. I’m trying to alternate each day, do a painkiller day (for real pain don’t get it twisted) and a concerta day. To prevent both tolerances.
i think it has to do with generic meds. my vyvanse stopped working when i was switched to generic. stoppd working as in a crash within a couple hours, and more side effects.
All I know is that I started taking 30mg of Vyvanse more than 3 months, before I was diagnosed, which happened last week, and I'm seeing serious diminishing returns. I'm back to a lot of my old habits. I fully admit, I've done nothing but take the medication.
How are you making out with the meds now?
that's withdrawal when you feel bad when you forget your meds. depression and fatigue is more pronounced.
Hey again, does the lack of sleep and headaches from Vyvanse go away? I want to know if to keep taking it
I decided not to take Vyvanse anymore. Wasn't effective for me at all and was overwhelmed with side effects. Probably going to try Focalin XR
So I take Adderall xr but read that vyvanse last longer.Up to 14 hours! So do you take it as soon as you wake up? Otherwise I see where it could cut into your sleep. Talk to your doctor as you might need a different dose or medication. That should be easy enough to fix. But give medication time to see how it's going to work.
Or try Concerta… it works differently from vyvanse. Vyvanse increases the amount of dopamine your body creates, which can be overwhelming and cause a chemical imbalance. On the other hand, Concerta works by blocking your dopamine re-uptake receptors decreasing the absorption of dopamine, allowing more dopamine to roam freely in your brain
I have been on 15mg Adderall twice a day for nearly 30 years now. It still really helps. The difference doesn't seem as big as when I started because I'm used to that level of functionality. I do notice a difference between the different generic manufacturers. Some just don't quite work as well. With the shortages, I have had to pharmacy hop a lot so I've got some very solid personal experience with it. I liked the "feel" of Vyvanse better but have found the timing of the the release too unpredictable. Some days it was fine. Other days I would get a big afternoon slump (the kind time release is supposed to prevent) Then it would kick back in at like 11pm and ....I'm gonna be up until 2 or 3. But I digress. TLDR, my experience has been very stable. Your results may vary.
Omg this isn't the first time I've heard of the whole manufacturer story . What exactly is the deal with that? What makes them think it's totally normal to treat a medication the exact same knowing the manufacturers are different and the meds won't give the same effect? Just odd... That always seemed so odd to me . I wonder why it has still been going on
i was diagnosed this week with ADD and couple more mental disorders. i tried Vyvanse today for the first time 30mg and i had focus for 3 hours, then i felt really bad for another 3 hours, and then i felt a bit sleepy till now. i tried last weeks ritalin and adderall (another doctor diagnosed me and gave them) and they also didn't work because of hard symptoms. i really hope adjusting the Vyvanse dose would help, otherwise i don't really know what to do
Don't worry, it's definitely too soon to panic! It takes at least a month or two to REALLY know if it works for you, you'll find the right meds ❤️
i knew elvanse was a huge improvement on day two when i increased my dose thricefold from the first day (i know i know but my doctor explained that I would have to find how much I need and I am not the lightest person either so I gaged it accurately it seems)
anyway it is indeed a huge improvement but it's not a wonderdrugg, It doesn't go away, it just helps
and in my case I came from over a decade and a half of only knowing ritalin so I can compare the two which will indeed be harder for you to do. but you should both give it time AND START doing things that you need to get done, it's like a steam engine, it seems to do little to get you to start doing something but when you start it should motivate you to go the extra mile without needing to stop to stimulate yourself as it essentially just gives you the dopamine which your brain lacks (which is why you usually need to stimulate yourself to get it)
@@istoppedcaring6209 I have the same feeling, super accurate!
If Mydayis is available, ask your doctor about possibly trying that.
I was on Vyvanse for over 10 years and switched to Mydayis in August 2023. It’s super smooth, no weird feelings (like Vyvanse) and it works all day. It works in the “background” and has been the most effective ADHD med I’ve been on… and I’ve been on ALL of them at some point. :)
@@GoADHDGo that is interesting, I feel that elvanse(vyvanse) is allready a huge improvement but can you tell me more about mydayis, how does it work, how does it affect your work, what work do you do, what is the price.
I know i am asking a lot but if it truly is better I need to try
I think age affects our response to meds too. Especially women! Its is now well known that adhd meds don't work or barely work during pms and in/after menopause 😢
How long did it take Vyvanse to start working for BED? I have both BED and ADHD, and just started Vyvanse.
I think it depends on the dosage. I have have BED. And now I'm on 50mg, and Def notice it working better for that.
It pretty much worked instantly for me, and it still does (with slightly more willpower). So I think it's awesome and you'll be happy :)
לדעתי הסיבה העיקרית שאנשים בונים עמידות לתרופות היא שהתרופה כל כך עוצמתית שהיא מאפשרת לך לדלג על שינה, מנוחה, פעילות גופנית, מזון, ועדיין לתפקד דיי טוב. אחרי כמה זמן אתה מרגיש כמו זבל כי אתה חיי לא בריא, אפילו שאתה נעזר בתרופה. ואז אתה מנסה לקחת מינון גבוהה יותר. ככה שלדעתי הטיפ הכי חשוב הוא לוודא שאתה לא מזניח את אסטרטגיות הבסיס שלך בזמן שאתה נוטל טיפול תרופתי.
I learned about this in Life Science, but not in relation to adhd but serotonin reuptake inhibitors. Unfortunately (in this context), brains are smart and adapt.
the brain isn't smart by "adapting" unless the brain loves misery and emptiness. it doesn't like anything helping it feel better. it wants to feel bleh. that's why it neutralizes everything.
@@BigIndianBindi-jy1cz I get what you mean. I think the human body overall is smart as it wants to maintain sameness I think it was called homeostasis. This helps us survive. I am sure that there are ways to counteract this like medication breaks and switching medication. From my perspective, the brain is smart because it gives rise to the mind or what we think of the soul or our personality. If someone loses function of part of the brain the pathways can be remade to regain some function (e.g. what they try to do with physiotherapy with stroke patients). I chose not to take medication and every day is hard but happy.
I take 50MG of Ritalin IR a day, I find I have much more granular control over it that way
Thats why its important to take 1-2 days off a week
i probably will
but i also notice that starting things is not much easier either, it is sticking to it that it helps with, and when i'm in my dorm i have less pressure to start things but when I am home i do a lot more fysical things, then again i first and foremost need to get my college work done, my bachelor paper and master scription, those are the two things i still have on my plate. this needs to work
@Deana It's not actually recommended to do so (at least for Vyvanse) cause ADHD is dangerous every day and also the body experiences stress from medication breaks that are too frequent. My psych actually suggested that one longer-term break per year is enough.
But it might work different for other people / types of meds.
@@istoppedcaring6209 "Starting things is not much easier either, it is sticking to it that it helps with" - SO well said! I couldn't exactly formulate the problem, but this describes it so well.
Doing stuff right still requires a ton of strategy and persistence, but it's way better than without meds and that's the case for 60-70% of people for the first 10 years at least (in one of the few studies that there are). So I'm REALLY hoping it keeps working for us both!
@@AntoniasUniverse let's hope so, I've only been taking them for days, a week and a half maybe but I can say that it blows ritalin out of the water, I performed major tasks, cleaned the roofs of rooms that hadn't been cleaned since I was born, cleaned my dormroom the moment I arrived, I kept performing my regular work with care as usual but went the extra mile, often spending hours upon hours repairing issues that had been bothering me for years but couldn't get myself to do them.
the only thing I have not yet tried is working on papers or studying, that is also what I have anxiety for, all these other things were large but very clearcut jobs, i couldn't do much wrong (asside from falling trough a roof but somehow I wasn't harmed much)
and importantly my mother noted that I am like a completely new person which gives me hope but I also realise that it doesn't make things easy, I can simply get them done.
Did it help you with academic work, I'd like to know.
I can’t skip a day. If I do, I’m a scrambled mess… more of a scrambled mess… a scramblier mess.
On concerta 18 mg - nothing like literally no difference ))))
@@TerminalCreedwhat's that means?
Dose is too low
Wow glad I am not on these horrible medications anymore. But hey, whatever works for you
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where do you get that?
@@BigIndianBindi-jy1cz You have to find your own seller. Mine that i used doesnt exist any more.
@@BigIndianBindi-jy1cz You can find it from several sellers in Europe. Dont know witch one is best for you depending on where you live.
I built a tolerance to Ritalin.
yes, just like any other drugs, its meth
Meth is only seen as bad because people that have trauma, use it to escape. And they do it in such a way that it wrecks their appearance and life. And then other people look at that, and say Meth is bad.
BZZT!!! --- WRONG. Nothing wrong with Meth. It's YOU. You're trying to push your childhood trauma away, and your trauma retaliates by slamming you with all the negative effects that are associated with meth. Meth isn't doing that. Your Trauma is doing it. All the things your Dad did to you as a child is what the problem is.