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  • Опубликовано: 23 мар 2020
  • It’s finally here! The all-new 2020 Land Rover Defender. And we've got our hands on a lovely Pangea Green 110, before the smaller Defender 90 comes along next year. But being such an iconic off-roader, we couldn’t just do a humdrum review. So Top Gear Magazine’s Jack Rix decided to go on an adventure - across Namibia - for a test drive to remember.
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  • @TopGear
    @TopGear  2 года назад +14

    Now from an off-roading behemoth to a couple of tiny 4x4 up-starts in the Dacia Duster and the Suzuki Jimny: ruclips.net/video/m-RYrOVr-rI/видео.html

  • @MaazAhm
    @MaazAhm 4 года назад +885

    In old days Jeremy would bring this, Hammond would show up with a ranger and may bring a Suzuki jimmy :D

  • @LeCamachoTRK
    @LeCamachoTRK 4 года назад +2263

    This defender needed a proper Richard Hammond review..

    • @SamKuul
      @SamKuul 4 года назад +28

      As long as he does not crash. That said, he does love Defenders, so it would be great.

    • @c3vzn
      @c3vzn 4 года назад +19

      It's been like 5 years since he's been on this channel. Go find him on Drivetribe.

    • @JuanGonzalez30
      @JuanGonzalez30 4 года назад +5

      ruclips.net/video/vac6mJE8rqo/видео.html

    • @leroychandy4482
      @leroychandy4482 4 года назад +7

      ruclips.net/video/vac6mJE8rqo/видео.html
      Video of Land rover Defender made by Richard Hammond better short video..

    • @sheaton2864
      @sheaton2864 4 года назад +5

      I agree cuz I would like to see the under side of it.😂

  • @JC-187
    @JC-187 3 года назад +93

    As much I loved top gear as a child it will never be the same without Jeremy Richard and James

    • @stephanpienaar9025
      @stephanpienaar9025 2 года назад

      True

    • @mvubu6823
      @mvubu6823 9 месяцев назад

      It's the LR corporate event. Lots of journos there following the set path

  • @mousumimallick3043
    @mousumimallick3043 4 года назад +666

    Honestly I miss the old top gear

    • @mg2380
      @mg2380 4 года назад +16

      Go watch The Grand Tour. Pretty much Top Gear. But on Amazon.

    • @rashedalshehhi
      @rashedalshehhi 4 года назад +3

      @@mg2380 they didn't release any thing for a while :(

    • @reapertalon
      @reapertalon 4 года назад

      Not the only one bro

    • @Trillineatus
      @Trillineatus 3 года назад +2

      in the old one they would at least destroy one

    • @Heron11177
      @Heron11177 3 года назад +1

      I think we all do
      The new Top Gear is not bad by itself. If it wasnt named Top Gear, probably wouldve been better, because simply dont have the same energy

  • @garethbattersby
    @garethbattersby 4 года назад +674

    "I don't like off roading..."
    "I saw it and instantly wanted one..."
    Pretty much sums up the customer base for off road vehicles in the 21st century

    • @rofufoja
      @rofufoja 4 года назад +14

      Gareth Battersby You hit the nail on the head and it cranked me up. Best comment around here

    • @krwiles
      @krwiles 4 года назад +29

      All of you are right on target! 98% of the people who buy a new off road vehicle never take it off road. It's like wearing a condom all the time every day but never screwing once.

    • @dirkcurritzki9585
      @dirkcurritzki9585 4 года назад +1

      still, after a test drive, not sure how many people will be annoyed by the wind noise.

    • @MarkWright1963
      @MarkWright1963 4 года назад

      Dartmoor Dave Spot on!

    • @rsoul7282
      @rsoul7282 4 года назад

      Yeep except for the fact that nobody wants to wear a franger if they don’t need to.

  • @yt_Ajay_
    @yt_Ajay_ 4 года назад +555

    I'll be honest, it looks more like what I imagined the Discovery would look like by now, but I do like it as a Defender

    • @Supcharged
      @Supcharged 4 года назад +11

      Because the Disco has to become an upmarket "luxury" car now and the Defender is also upmarketed with an upmarket price

    • @pinkpotato1
      @pinkpotato1 4 года назад +18

      This wouldve been a perfect new Disco. No one wouldve moaned then.

    • @Supcharged
      @Supcharged 4 года назад

      pinkpotato1 but how can they jack up the prices then?

    • @pinkpotato1
      @pinkpotato1 4 года назад +6

      Romi Have the disco 5 called the ‘disco premium’ and have this new defender called the ‘disco adventure’

    • @KN-lq4zv
      @KN-lq4zv 4 года назад +8

      Do you think though that it has completely missed the previous defender market and tried to appeal to the disco market ? I personally would have liked to see something a little more basic than this so as to keep the price point down, and maintain its previous appeal with just a few modernised inclusions to make able to be daily driven. unfortunately they have fallen victim to just catering to the general SUV market with a few in market tricks to give it some basic off road prowess. I just think it’s too much for what it should have been.

  • @iray3242
    @iray3242 4 года назад +834

    Oh you fooled me again "Top Gear". I thought I was going to see a review from an automotive journalist but instead was treated to a sales commercial.

    • @mikemike-ym9pb
      @mikemike-ym9pb 4 года назад +20

      I Ray you hit the nail on the head. We don’t need to hear all the sales pitch! We have the commercials for that.

    • @dereksmith3152
      @dereksmith3152 4 года назад +5

      @@larryman2707 SO are Land Rover paying to to be a dick.

    • @grantchallinor5263
      @grantchallinor5263 4 года назад +15

      The only automotive journalist Top Gear have is Chris Harris (one of the best in the world) and he'll tell the truth about a vehicle. In the "taster" for this video (released a few days before this video) this guy (Jack Rix) actually said: "Africa - what a country!" (the video was then taken down by the BBC, and edited, to remove the obvious mistake)....

    • @davidbernard7256
      @davidbernard7256 4 года назад +6

      you mean a sales muppet!

    • @rudiekeyser2495
      @rudiekeyser2495 4 года назад +2

      And drive next to the road in the Marienflus! That is were the new gras will grow when the rain is back. That is so stupid and unthinkable to nature. Shame !!!

  • @_Silviu
    @_Silviu 4 года назад +34

    To be honest, The Defender looks a lot better when is dirty, sandy, wet and mudy than when is bright shiny just pulled out from the garage😊

  • @Bilalnwo
    @Bilalnwo 4 года назад +579

    17:05 - "We got a couple of flat tyres"
    20:10 - "We didn't even get a flat tyre"
    🤔

    • @Dwealdric
      @Dwealdric 4 года назад +118

      I think it's a matter of royal we (as in the group), VS literal we (as in his crew in their vehicle). But not the most straightforward, I'd agree.

    • @dick1324
      @dick1324 4 года назад +45

      Classic new top gear. In the old top gear they wouldn’t care, they would look at how quickly it could get around a penis shaped off-road track

    • @dylanoneal5224
      @dylanoneal5224 4 года назад +3

      It’s tire not tyre

    • @XenonArcher
      @XenonArcher 4 года назад +96

      @@dylanoneal5224 tire is the US spelling. Tyre is how its spelt in every other english speaking country

    • @santoshmoopanar6584
      @santoshmoopanar6584 4 года назад +5

      Coz that was an different car...and he is on some other car

  • @dghost198
    @dghost198 4 года назад +952

    They picked the guy that doesn’t like to go off roading to go off roading 🤦🏻

    • @fisherh9111
      @fisherh9111 4 года назад +70

      Agree. I expect to see an enthusiastic expert reviewing cars. Would you watch a cooking show done by someone who doesn't like cooking?

    • @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
      @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 4 года назад +39

      That's because any off-road person would point out that this is the Discovery that they screwed up the last time and it does everything the current Disco does. They both carry up to 7 people, they tow the same weight, and they wade in the same depth of water. Essentially now they made a proper Discovery and screwed it up by pretending it was a Defender or that it was any more capable then the cars they already sell. This car needs a face lift, it needs an 8 passenger option, and it needs to be called Defender 120.

    • @theuberindian3988
      @theuberindian3988 4 года назад +24

      Waited for this comment. His reviews are for people who aren't into offroading. Andrew Pierre White summarized it perfectly. It's just another discovery.

    • @jorgesolis5055
      @jorgesolis5055 4 года назад +4

      Yeah and he is now into it! That was the point

    • @theuberindian3988
      @theuberindian3988 4 года назад +13

      @@jorgesolis5055 not really. This video means nothing. I wanted to know if it compares in any way to the old defender. Can it do harcore overlanding? It looks like it's already too complicated mechanically to do long trips. And probably expensive. It's just another discovery. The defender could've been the 70 series Land Cruiser (sold in Australia) or the Jeep Wrangler competitor but right now it's all over the place.

  • @mediacafelk
    @mediacafelk 4 года назад +367

    "This is a land rover organized trip" that means the review will be biased

    • @lunamaria1048
      @lunamaria1048 4 года назад +21

      Yes a Land Rover press event set up by absolute experts to make sure all the routes are easy enough, and to also sway the journalists minds by providing them with amazing food, lots of alcohol and make sure the stay is the best time possible for the journalists.. Think about it... A bad trip would definitely lead to poor reviews lol.. I have a RUclipsr friend who use to be on Land Rovers journalist invite list, but his honesty had him removed from the list because he said the "This Discovery is absolutely unreliable rubbish.. Save your money and get a Toyota" lol

    • @3ziz1981
      @3ziz1981 4 года назад

      @@lunamaria1048 could be Andrew st. Pierre white?

    • @coreyrusko749
      @coreyrusko749 4 года назад +3

      This reviewer was very nitpicky

    • @ronarona1151
      @ronarona1151 4 года назад +1

      @@lunamaria1048 your friend video link please?

    • @deepakchhetri4185
      @deepakchhetri4185 4 года назад

      Get a Tata Chota Haati for urself.

  • @classicford4118
    @classicford4118 4 года назад +79

    The best part of this video was seeing the series 1 land rover

  • @huntsbychainsaw5986
    @huntsbychainsaw5986 4 года назад +263

    This is the first time I've watched anything from TopGear since they let Jeremy go.

    • @y.spilly
      @y.spilly 4 года назад +7

      Don’t watch the series, watch this guy, he’s really good

    • @halllwd94
      @halllwd94 4 года назад +2

      Same. And it's so far the only thing I've liked since they let him go ;)

    • @pauldashwood2897
      @pauldashwood2897 4 года назад +1

      I’m the same .never watch it the other 3 are good hosts.

    • @ruggedtourer
      @ruggedtourer 4 года назад +2

      Me too and still I didn’t like it. This suv shuld be called Discovery.

    • @Munkenba
      @Munkenba 4 года назад +2

      God you people must be miserable. No one's congratulating you for your purism.

  • @kieferngruen
    @kieferngruen 4 года назад +185

    Why would you let someone review this car who doesn't know anything about off-roading?

    • @antonmarkov1635
      @antonmarkov1635 3 года назад +18

      Because 90% of people that buy the car will be just like him. Including me.

    • @lukaszfojcik9257
      @lukaszfojcik9257 3 года назад +6

      Becuase this car will fail in proper offroad test

    • @vindieter
      @vindieter 3 года назад +1

      Lukasz Fojcik Really? You base that on what?

    • @antonmarkov1635
      @antonmarkov1635 3 года назад +7

      vindieter He bases that on the fact that he probably can’t afford it so he has to hate it. That’s how people are.

    • @thebubaloomonkey
      @thebubaloomonkey 3 года назад +2

      Because people that have never done it are easily impressed!

  • @TX-ml2pk
    @TX-ml2pk 4 года назад +32

    "i dont get off-roading"
    we need hammond!!!!!!!

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 4 года назад +32

    “The next 20Km will take 2 1/2 hours”... that’s my commute every morning on the A14 getting into Cambridge 😩

  • @commandotr6086
    @commandotr6086 4 года назад +135

    I miss the good old times😫 with Jeremy Clarkson, James May and Richard Hammond😍😫

    • @peterschmidt829
      @peterschmidt829 4 года назад +5

      Me too. Its sad to see the boring new Top Gear. 😫
      Now its just a car Show.

    • @davidkinorani
      @davidkinorani 4 года назад

      SPEEED AND POWERRRR

    • @shaklibakli90
      @shaklibakli90 4 года назад +1

      Jeremy ,james and richard have a new show called grand tour.

    • @MaazAhm
      @MaazAhm 4 года назад

      Who doesn't

    • @betaz1000
      @betaz1000 4 года назад

      Bla bla bla bla.. move on mate.. go watch their channel.. go suck their feet

  • @TyFenwick
    @TyFenwick 4 года назад +57

    How bad can a influenced review get ! Trusting someone’s point of view who doesn’t go off-road ? Andrew from 4xoverland should of been involved to tell us how good it really is ?

    • @slogue77
      @slogue77 4 года назад +1

      So looking forward to Andrew getting his hands on one of these...

    • @DanRocal39
      @DanRocal39 4 года назад +4

      cuz this is not a review, it's a commercial.

    • @kathiiita2990
      @kathiiita2990 4 года назад

      I think Mr Andrew did a review about this review.

  • @antonmarkov1635
    @antonmarkov1635 3 года назад +2

    I understand the hate when it comes to the new cast of Top Gear that are trying really hard to be the old cast but this guy is just there to do a job and he’s doing it his way, not trying to be Clarkson, Hammond or May. I don’t understand the negative comments about the car. Yeah the video is a little salesman-y but when you look at this car, it’s absolutely perfect. Not only is it respectful to it’s heritage, it’s also a real player in the modern market because unlike any other modern SUV, it can do anything. You can go hardcore off-roading, you can use it as a truck and haul/tow stuff, you can drive it daily and you can even take it out on dates. Land Rover has created the perfect SUV.

  • @kanaybid
    @kanaybid 4 года назад +84

    The way they skip all the “off road stuff” and then just idle around everywhere 😂😂😂😂

  • @rickrolled09
    @rickrolled09 4 года назад +100

    It is growing on me I must admit. I was very much in the category of 'why have they ruined the defender?!' but they have done an excellent job!

    • @livelyosprey
      @livelyosprey 4 года назад +10

      rickrolled09 I just feel it’s redundant now to the Discovery. It used to be very unique and different

    • @ZaberBiest
      @ZaberBiest 4 года назад +4

      Based on a video from a biased program/magazine?

    • @reluctant4116
      @reluctant4116 4 года назад +3

      Well, it’s obvious they had to get modern. But the biggest argument when buying one was that Defenders run forever, which will not happen with this super-Turbo-charged-semi-Electric-Hybrid-whatever. You can throw this car in the dumpster when you reach 100k miles

    • @JensS94
      @JensS94 4 года назад +1

      I feel the same, it's different, but I still like it. The old defender was nice, but that doesn't mean they have to keep it the same for centuries. But it will probably be bought mostly to be on suburban streets instead of in the wilderness..

    • @stevecrocker6904
      @stevecrocker6904 4 года назад

      rickrolled09: I love the generic Tonka truck look of the old one but, seriously, you could break your shoulder against the door. Very narrow and cramped -

  • @f22raptor973
    @f22raptor973 4 года назад +299

    There's a reason they use old Toyota pickups in Namibia. Not land rovers.

    • @larryman2707
      @larryman2707 4 года назад +64

      Yeah Chief, because they can’t afford a Defender. Besides Defenders aren’t meant for terrorists and poor Africans.

    • @f22raptor973
      @f22raptor973 4 года назад +109

      @@larryman2707 your right. This one's meant for primary school mums.

    • @larryman2707
      @larryman2707 4 года назад +19

      C F 😂😂 shut up stupid! You’re just mad cause you’ll never afford one, 😂😂

    • @vytas5584
      @vytas5584 4 года назад +38

      @@larryman2707 Grow up, Larry. It is a luxury vehicle that cannot be sustained on a budget that's why Toyotas are preferred

    • @ricardoavocado66
      @ricardoavocado66 4 года назад +36

      Give me a Hilux any day

  • @valdius85
    @valdius85 4 года назад +55

    Great advertisement. I am waiting for an actual review by a journalist I can trust in at least a minimum way.

    • @iainamurray
      @iainamurray 3 года назад +1

      What did he say that was distrustful?

    • @timfrolov7891
      @timfrolov7891 2 года назад

      @@iainamurray "Organized by Land Rover"

    • @iainamurray
      @iainamurray 2 года назад +1

      @@timfrolov7891 That doesn't make it distrustful - if anything it makes it more trustful because it's making a full disclosure.

  • @Jodhi_Singh
    @Jodhi_Singh 4 года назад +239

    Man Jack and Harris should host Top Gear not those two other buffoons

    • @cleanupinaisle3
      @cleanupinaisle3 4 года назад +15

      They're really good on their own but I don't find they have much chemistry (like when Jack does those mini interviews for Chris' thoughts on certain cars); I think Chris is just kind of stubborn and doesn't play well with others and anytime he has to be on big-network television you can tell he's really, really faking it.

    • @sillygoose635
      @sillygoose635 4 года назад

      says the buffoon.

    • @chegamais9032
      @chegamais9032 4 года назад +14

      @jon doe Nooooo, don´t say things like that. I think Harris is the only reason TG still exists.

    • @chanjohan4894
      @chanjohan4894 4 года назад +2

      I think the old top gear host should be the host

    • @WillAleeLifts
      @WillAleeLifts 4 года назад +4

      Jodhbir Singh no we need Jeremy, Richard and James

  • @dartmoordave
    @dartmoordave 4 года назад +170

    "Its no longer agricultural", exactly where it went wrong!

    • @timhay7141
      @timhay7141 4 года назад +6

      Yep. Can't throw a sheep or a big bale in it. Only for Mancunians with nothing to do on a Sunday.

    • @dartmoordave
      @dartmoordave 4 года назад +9

      @@timhay7141 I was rather hoping it was going to be a pressed up cab on a sturdy chassis where the doors weren't made of 25 pieces of folded tin covered in readily corroded alli, where the doors actually sealed to the frame when shut etc. I could go on, I have had 5 90/110's so I know the pitfalls. It would be available in various guises to suit all markets. Now we have something nobody will want because the disco is so developed now.

    • @george85340
      @george85340 4 года назад +2

      Could not agree more!

    • @patricklawrence2755
      @patricklawrence2755 4 года назад +4

      agree totally. the 70 series Toyo Land cruisers are still agricultural, and they cant make enough of them for the Aussie and far east market. If they ever brought them to the USA, we wood cheer in unison.

    • @patrickmacconnell4364
      @patrickmacconnell4364 4 года назад +2

      If you want a capable dinosaur get a 4Runner

  • @frankbrown9618
    @frankbrown9618 4 года назад +19

    min. 02.50 "This car ... is just a big, confy SUV..." . Got it.

  • @DhavalMomaya
    @DhavalMomaya 4 года назад +15

    "can winch the Defender vertically up" ... The Gods Must Be Crazy reference. 😂🤣

    • @willdows9421
      @willdows9421 4 года назад +1

      Nice to see some people with culture here XD

  • @nicolassulejic6643
    @nicolassulejic6643 4 года назад +84

    Driving in the middle of the desert. Next minute a small shop..... Africa

    • @HauntedXXXPancake
      @HauntedXXXPancake 4 года назад

      Yeeees, The traditional African life-style - Selling trinkets on a playground for rich folks. Not mad they're making money, but it's just so Touristy

    • @michaelgakanga
      @michaelgakanga 4 года назад +1

      @@HauntedXXXPancake not really

    • @eugene9852
      @eugene9852 4 года назад +4

      Everything in this video would have been meticulously prepared and staged by JLR, including the seemingly random souvenir shop.

    • @paulolange3462
      @paulolange3462 4 года назад

      This is really something normal or just made up for this Land Rover debut?

    • @cdtzabcan
      @cdtzabcan 4 года назад +3

      @@eugene9852 negative. The Himba in that area have small setups in seemingly random places for the very few travelers who go to that region.

  • @dfri3416
    @dfri3416 4 года назад +53

    I kept waiting for the ad to end so I could watch the review.

  • @edchelledu2006
    @edchelledu2006 4 года назад +3

    Wow, I've never watched a Top Gear video like this in a looooong time, amazing

    • @muzza_r
      @muzza_r 3 года назад +1

      I know - it's shockingly bad!

  • @crispinswainstonharrison9042
    @crispinswainstonharrison9042 3 года назад +11

    BBC could have handled the Clarkson altercation differently. They must regret this everyday.

  • @dayhikingforoldies9792
    @dayhikingforoldies9792 4 года назад +3

    I too was privileged to spend 2 days driving the pre-production versions at Land Rovers’ Eastnor Castle visitor experience centre. WOW 🤩 their refined prowess and unflappable competence quite literally blew our socks, gloves, hats and everything else off. This car is the real McCoy, it is a genuine game-changer ✊

  • @katerspam
    @katerspam 4 года назад +189

    Cross your fingers, the computers don't break down in Africa

    • @Till113
      @Till113 4 года назад +51

      The bush mechanic will fix that computer no problem! He will also fix the supercharger, turbo and hybrid system without a hassle. Getting parts will be a walk in the park!

    • @MrMutimba
      @MrMutimba 4 года назад +16

      Yeah. Because we all live in trees and and a computer is plastic box of witchcraft.

    • @katerspam
      @katerspam 4 года назад +21

      @@MrMutimba read between the lines, and you might get the point. It's not a comment about Africa

    • @ninad.a
      @ninad.a 4 года назад +10

      Exactly what I was thinking.. lot of electronics and computer technology has gone in the car which may make the car a bit less reliable and difficult to fix.

    • @byteme9718
      @byteme9718 4 года назад +11

      Forget Africa, owners will have to cross their fingers to complete the school run.

  • @rynoopperman5010
    @rynoopperman5010 4 года назад +29

    We did not suffer 1 puncture, wow that was amazing...
    Said 4Min after explaining they had multiple tire failures where he even helped running the wheel gun
    Just goes to show when a first class trip is run by the manufacturer, only fanboy reviews will be provided 😱🙄🤦🏼‍♂️

    • @fatonkosova6212
      @fatonkosova6212 4 года назад

      This was more of a movie, I mean it was nice to watch and Landrover didn't get broken, not even 1 puncture, that's reliability for you :) FAILURE.

    • @michaelelliott9657
      @michaelelliott9657 3 года назад

      He said HE never had a puncture - details!

  • @warrenbruhn5888
    @warrenbruhn5888 3 года назад +1

    This was a magnificent advertisement for the Defender. Quite enjoyed it. There's plenty of reviews and tests and comparisons critical of the Defender, and rightly so. This was just fun, as it showed someone who was just starting to get a sense of why people drive 4x4 vehicles to such locations.

  • @dariusschoeman9732
    @dariusschoeman9732 4 года назад +143

    I actually live in Opuwo, they drove past my house daily.

    • @DavidPetrovici
      @DavidPetrovici 4 года назад +1

      Your name is Darius. Do you have relatives from Romania?

    • @cypriannyamwamu
      @cypriannyamwamu 4 года назад +1

      I heard him say that that is the only tarmac road in Namibia...
      How true is that?

    • @dontpresssubscribe6777
      @dontpresssubscribe6777 4 года назад +1

      Cap

    • @dwayne_
      @dwayne_ 4 года назад +5

      @@cypriannyamwamu Not at all true. Namibia has the best roads in Africa.

    • @cypriannyamwamu
      @cypriannyamwamu 4 года назад +3

      @@dwayne_ I hate getting misrepresented... That was not respectful

  • @Final_Drive
    @Final_Drive 4 года назад +25

    Such a shame top gear, you are gifted this incredible opportunity and you send that bloke. 🤦‍♂️

  • @quantumphaser
    @quantumphaser 4 года назад +50

    "Most of the tracks around here are laid down by Toyota's"
    🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣

    • @lilmario0
      @lilmario0 4 года назад +2

      I get it but why's it this funny to you? I didn't think it was suppose to be funny.

    • @sdc303
      @sdc303 3 года назад +3

      I think because Toyotas are simpler and a fraction of the price.

  • @ellisobrienphoto
    @ellisobrienphoto 4 года назад +3

    After watching this Guy you realise how good the original trio are at what they do.

  • @TimothyAonokBass
    @TimothyAonokBass 4 года назад +7

    11:11, that watch disappeared from your wrist in a matter of seconds! all in all, absolutely enjoyed this video 😎

  • @krwiles
    @krwiles 4 года назад +66

    5:28 they pick a dude who doesn't enjoy off roading to do the review on the replacement of an off road icon... Seems legit!

    • @larryman2707
      @larryman2707 4 года назад

      So you DIDNT watch the whole video then did you junior?

    • @guyspooner4580
      @guyspooner4580 4 года назад

      11:14. “You must put the car in Low range mode” uh? Ratio you mean?

  • @ta.bespoke
    @ta.bespoke 4 года назад +3

    That was nothing short of a movie. Loved the sound tracks as well.

    • @fatonkosova6212
      @fatonkosova6212 4 года назад

      Yep, it proved to be a movie; Land rover doesn't get broken, not even a puncture, that's reliable :)

  • @OladipupoAdaraloye
    @OladipupoAdaraloye 4 года назад +1

    Ngl, I really like that theme song from the intro and the outro. Really giving a nod to Namibia. What a beautiful country, with amusing landscape and animals. Great video guys, good review Jack.

  • @harveysmith100
    @harveysmith100 4 года назад +90

    They chose a guy who doesn't go Off Roading to test drive a vehicle that was designed buy guys who also don't go Off Roading.
    Perfect.

    • @jamsheeddevotee7588
      @jamsheeddevotee7588 4 года назад +1

      Firstly, it's by*
      secondly, all the features included, the performance of the vehicle, and the video proof you just watched all prove you wrong.

    • @harveysmith100
      @harveysmith100 4 года назад +3

      @@TheJPHarvey Time will tell.
      You have produced a vehicle to replace the Defender but you chose not to have solid axles?
      You have filled it full of electronics?
      The competition, Land Cruiser 70 series and the Mercedes G Wagon have stuck with ladder chassis and solid axles. Even the new Suzuki has stayed traditional.
      Now you either work for JLR, in which case you are in trouble for insulting me on You Tube, or you are a liar.
      The test for this vehicle is let it work in Africa for 25 years and see if it lasts. It will be dead in 10 years.
      We shall see how many Australian farmers buy it? If they break down in remote areas it can mean death for them. Are they going to trust all those ECU's? I can't remember how many but as you work for JLR I am sure you can tell me. It's more than 50 per vehicle I think.
      When I say go Off Roading, I don't mean a bit of Green Laning, I mean driving in Africa or the Third World.
      The new Grenadier will prove the original Defender design was correct.
      Have you ever driven in Africa?

    • @dartmoordave
      @dartmoordave 4 года назад +1

      Not sure it was designed, I've always assumed it was an apprentice project to see what they could make from the parts bins?

    • @harveysmith100
      @harveysmith100 4 года назад

      @@dartmoordave Many a true word said in jest.

    • @gordonwedman3179
      @gordonwedman3179 4 года назад +1

      If they chose an experienced off road expert and he/she had no trouble navigating the terrain what would that prove?? Letting a novice try is obviously a better test of the car taking care of you.

  • @halllwd94
    @halllwd94 4 года назад +25

    This may be. One of the first videos from top gear since the big three left that I actually liked.

    • @moneymandan6217
      @moneymandan6217 4 года назад

      I agree

    • @Cous1nJack
      @Cous1nJack 4 года назад +2

      Yeah. Hasn’t been the same since Rory, Matt and Chris Evans canned it.

    • @halllwd94
      @halllwd94 4 года назад

      @@Cous1nJack Chris Evans was okay. But he had his problems too.

  • @afcfan9310
    @afcfan9310 3 года назад +1

    This was so enjoyable to watch, like watching a nature/adventure documentary.

  • @jonmccauley6490
    @jonmccauley6490 4 года назад +4

    "Don't like offroading. Don't understand why offroaders do it. But I'll review the car anyway and hope viewers listen to me."
    Hope he enjoyed all the free Land Rover swag and fully catered trip.

  • @trancenut81
    @trancenut81 4 года назад +89

    A turbocharged supercharged straight six from Land Rover. What could go wrong?

    • @MrAndreCoutinho
      @MrAndreCoutinho 4 года назад +45

      Add air suspension to the mix, it will be beautiful for the shop owner.

    • @Till113
      @Till113 4 года назад +8

      @@MrAndreCoutinho In Namibia? I don't think so :D bring good boots because you will have to walk home

    • @davisdesigns1153
      @davisdesigns1153 4 года назад +13

      You forgot it's also a hybrid😂

    • @davisdesigns1153
      @davisdesigns1153 4 года назад

      @G Hq 🤣

    • @davisdesigns1153
      @davisdesigns1153 4 года назад +5

      @G Hq this new defender will only last as long as a lease. Thereafter👎it all goes downhill...

  • @PrinoyPhalgunan
    @PrinoyPhalgunan 4 года назад +58

    Special shout out to James Gough... Brilliant cinematography man. Also to the person who filmed the Land Rover footage. Simply stupendous 👌🏻

    • @subormypotatowillbesad7555
      @subormypotatowillbesad7555 4 года назад +1

      Prinoy Phalgunan ohh ur fancy let me guess we’re ur from ohh so hard England that’s my guess

    • @PrinoyPhalgunan
      @PrinoyPhalgunan 4 года назад +2

      Loggie_Z I'm from India!

    • @comfortablydumbb
      @comfortablydumbb 4 года назад +1

      @@PrinoyPhalgunan 😁

    • @JohnnyFD
      @JohnnyFD 4 года назад +1

      Agreed 100% Amazing' film and edit by the whole team. Even the sound was on point.

  • @user-jg3lv4uk3j
    @user-jg3lv4uk3j 4 года назад +4

    Awesome intro montage! Adventure fillings effect!

  • @aliqazilbash5231
    @aliqazilbash5231 3 года назад

    the latest project which my father indulged himself into before we moved to canada was that he took an older Land Rover Defender 110 and beefed up the suspension, put a 2 and half inch suspension lift, repainted the thing olive green, refurbished air con, dashboard along with proper 17 inch offroad tires... we drove that thing for less than 4 months but it was magic! we took it trekking over some of the most rugged and rocky terrain imaginable and it just went...

  • @jacknorton3945
    @jacknorton3945 4 года назад +152

    'Most of the cars around here are Toyotas'. Tells you all you need to know.

    • @will006
      @will006 4 года назад +8

      yes, they are cheap.

    • @harryhulme5871
      @harryhulme5871 4 года назад +22

      @@will006 land cruisers definitely aren't cheap haha

    • @tommyinoz2100
      @tommyinoz2100 4 года назад +41

      they aren't cheap, they are reliable ;-) no one is stupid enough to buy a landrover in rural Africa

    • @afa988
      @afa988 4 года назад +2

      will006 : hahaaa U know nothing about TLC !!!

    • @rjb0572
      @rjb0572 4 года назад +2

      @@will006 oh yeah 😒

  • @jaimiktrivedi
    @jaimiktrivedi 4 года назад +12

    Okay, wow. This is almost like a movie. That last piece of music in the end... Wow! Sheer artistry. A couple of little mistakes here and there, but... I think you’ve done justice to the new car replacing the old Legend. Jack, you’ve earned my respect. I’m your fan now, just as much as I am of Chris. Thank you! And Top Gear, welcome back! :’)

  • @lupe8302
    @lupe8302 4 года назад +102

    There will never be another Clarkson. I miss the Baboon.

    • @RAPIDNISMO
      @RAPIDNISMO 4 года назад +3

      Go watch the grand tour

    • @reapertalon
      @reapertalon 4 года назад +2

      The shaved ape in a shirt

  • @JohnnyFD
    @JohnnyFD 4 года назад +5

    This is incredible. Makes me really want a Defender now, even more than before. I'd love to do this trip as well, I wonder if there's a way to pay to go on the same route?

    • @OfudouMyou
      @OfudouMyou 4 года назад

      Johnny FD usually the car ship along with the other Land Rover dealers organize those off-road trips. In case they don’t do it officially trough Land Rover just ask around and they probably will put you in contact with them. Ultimately google it. Easiest way is just entering an off road group.

    • @xXAlmdudlerXx
      @xXAlmdudlerXx Год назад

      Bring Bald with you then

  • @RoamOverlanding
    @RoamOverlanding 4 года назад +3

    Beautifully Filmed guys!! Cant wait to see more of these out on the trail!

  • @romancarp6427
    @romancarp6427 4 года назад +40

    Hello mr editor of the video. it says day 2 twice on the map at 4:29. Sorry

    • @deelanaS
      @deelanaS 4 года назад +1

      Romancarp I did notice that😂

    • @forgo06
      @forgo06 4 года назад +1

      At 18:15 too

    • @leroychandy4482
      @leroychandy4482 4 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/vac6mJE8rqo/видео.html
      Video of Land rover Defender made by Richard Hammond better short video..

  • @RY-gg2dm
    @RY-gg2dm 4 года назад

    20:14 recoding in studio, new moon landing going on😂😂

  • @renatocarlagoncalves7620
    @renatocarlagoncalves7620 4 года назад +3

    It was interesting to make a challenge between defender Td5 and the new defender. a track with a couple of obstacles and compare the differences !!

  • @roshansrinivas8729
    @roshansrinivas8729 4 года назад +3

    7:18 , i remember the Namibia episode from grand tour season 1 where jeremy, richard and james went through this in their beach buggies

  • @bensroka1210
    @bensroka1210 4 года назад +6

    18:25 or so when the map is on the screen they typo’d: it should say Day 3 and not Day 2 on the bottom. Currently it says Day 2 twice. Nothing major, just an observation

  • @JasonWh
    @JasonWh Год назад

    As a very frequent offroader, I have learned to ceramic coat the windshield and when mud hits it, it slides right off. No lost visibility.

  • @Alan.livingston
    @Alan.livingston 4 года назад +56

    This is the best advertisement to just go buy a Landcruiser.

    • @Alan.livingston
      @Alan.livingston 3 года назад

      BeerGrills A mate picked up a used Lexus a while back for a fraction of the price of the equivalent Toyota model of basically exactly the same car. People don’t seem to think to search for them.

  • @eadons6233
    @eadons6233 4 года назад +52

    Day 2 in quarantine: considering selling the house, wife, kids and all possessions, buying a defender and driving across all of Africa. Who is with me?

  • @fffanman
    @fffanman 4 года назад +36

    I enjoyed this video. Would like to have seen more of the water crossings in detail though but you touched on all I needed to know for now. Thanks so much. Nice to see the host get excited about the car in the end.

    • @dreadog6425
      @dreadog6425 4 года назад +1

      It a free ride for him silly. Plus he needs to say all the right thing or NO more rides for him. This is a lame excuse for a Defender replacement

    • @BobMonkeypimp
      @BobMonkeypimp 4 года назад

      Watch Carwow's review. Mat Watson covers all the proper info including water depth.

  • @omegamki5230
    @omegamki5230 4 года назад +3

    I like this Disco 4.5, it is amazing!!!

  • @dtq3809
    @dtq3809 4 года назад +1

    you know camera crew and rescue crew of this episode using Land Cruisers LOL

  • @samoahbay
    @samoahbay 4 года назад +53

    The longest TV commercial I've ever seen.

  • @wilhelm0022
    @wilhelm0022 4 года назад +19

    No ladder frame chassis, no rigid axles and no manual difflocks.....

    • @mayuranelli6339
      @mayuranelli6339 4 года назад +3

      You get digital manual diff locks

    • @computergeek123ism
      @computergeek123ism 4 года назад +9

      the chassis isnt even an issue for me, if they can mount solid axles on a unibody, then fine... but they didnt. So i still think the jimny is a better "new defender" than the new defender

    • @ShaiyanHossain
      @ShaiyanHossain 4 года назад +1

      @Anonymous except the Jimny, Bronco, and JL Wrangler all have ladder frame chassis in 2020

    • @ShaiyanHossain
      @ShaiyanHossain 4 года назад

      @Anonymous safety is cool and all, but for a true offroader vehicle, it should at least have a live rear axle imo; also given Land Rover's track record with electronic gadgets in their cars id never trust any air suspension on a defender

    • @wilhelm0022
      @wilhelm0022 4 года назад +1

      @@eugene9852 The Jimny is not made for the motorway, it's made for offroading and it is indeed a realy good offroad CAR.

  • @The_Opinion_of_Matt
    @The_Opinion_of_Matt 3 года назад +1

    TG: "The diesel is perfectly fine. And let's face it, it's probably the one you're going to buy."
    U.S. Market: "They won't sell it to us with the diesel."
    Also, you got to drive the 6-cyl with steel wheels (upon review it appears they switched in and out of vehicles and it may not have been a 6-cyl with steelies). In the U.S. at least the 6-cyl only comes with larger brakes that the steel wheels won't fit over. Nice to see the mounted decent off-road tires with the Goodyear Duratracs. From what I've heard LR sales/marketing types will typically rattle off lines about how their vehicles are "tire immune".

  • @Grillkeks
    @Grillkeks 4 года назад +12

    18:16 Give the intern more sleep, he wrote "Day 2" again instead of "Day 3"

  • @DouEditz
    @DouEditz 4 года назад +52

    Will be interesting to see this vs the upcoming Ford Bronco

    • @SWR_Quackula
      @SWR_Quackula 4 года назад

      We've been due a new Bronco since Rampage came out lol

    • @randycane5894
      @randycane5894 4 года назад +4

      I expect the Bronco will kick the shit out of this pile

    • @SWR_Quackula
      @SWR_Quackula 4 года назад +6

      @@randycane5894 I bloody well hope so, if I'm honest this is a disgrace to the Defender name. There was no reason at all to discontinue the old model

    • @592sunrise
      @592sunrise 4 года назад +1

      @@SWR_Quackula I don't think most of the land rover fans like the design...but they trying to prove it can function the same way..but its still not the true Land Rover Fans Love.
      We need True Defender for the Fans to truly be functional in this uncertain time..(kits and all included)

    • @sk_bl2299
      @sk_bl2299 4 года назад +4

      The bronco is sooooo ugly tho

  • @chawenhalo0089
    @chawenhalo0089 4 года назад +5

    Good footage. Well done JLR for daring to publicly put the new through its paces off road, even if ot was a short trip. Most true 4x4 owners are very sceptical about this new Def, given the previous one reliability short comings. I hope JLR continues to dare prove the models reliability by doing proper overlanding expeditions. This should up the critics. As much the overlanding community loves its Pajeros/ Shogun and Toyo 70 series, we 'd all be delighted to have more comfort and everyday practicality. The big one is reliability, can ot survive 3000 km off roading. Kimberly trail next?

  • @dkphantomdk
    @dkphantomdk 3 года назад +1

    Looks SO much like a commercial video.
    - putting motor journalists in a car and into a stunning location, most journalists forget to test the car.

  • @aidanpierce4863
    @aidanpierce4863 3 года назад

    Those mirrors are not that hard to get used to, drove a Cadillac over a year ago with it and it was fantastic. With this mirror the situational awareness is fantastic and if you have stuff in the back it doesn't mess with you view. It's in the new Corvette as well. Not sure how it is in the defender or offroading but for normal everyday driving it's great!

  • @MrDefender1990
    @MrDefender1990 4 года назад +4

    “ I was the guy changing the wheels” nekminnut “we never even got a flat”

  • @VR46314
    @VR46314 4 года назад +71

    I’m sad about they have taken it away from the agricultural side as I live in farming community and these are cult cars but I guess sale demographics matter
    Edit : just for clarification where I live on a small Uk island with mainly farming communities the defender is very popular

    • @MrAndreCoutinho
      @MrAndreCoutinho 4 года назад +4

      Now that's a job for the Discovery, I suppose.

    • @craig5332
      @craig5332 4 года назад +1

      Yeah, although now here most of the farmers have bought pickups instead and I dont know if they'd go back to the land rover.

    • @VR46314
      @VR46314 4 года назад

      Stanley Flooring it. Yeah agreed but still a classic agricultural car for many farmers

    • @VR46314
      @VR46314 4 года назад

      Andre Coutinho agreed

    • @maurimasondo
      @maurimasondo 4 года назад +3

      there will be a commercial version coming up soon.. stripped down and cheaper. www.landrover.co.uk/explore-land-rover/news/defender-commercial.html

  • @dad_jokes_4ever226
    @dad_jokes_4ever226 4 года назад +1

    4:32 : Just out of shot a couple of support land cruisers driving behind to keep the expedition going when the land rovers get stuck / break down.

  • @thaminduKavinda
    @thaminduKavinda 2 года назад

    Top Gear off-road videos are absolutely enjoyable.

  • @VWkid4life
    @VWkid4life 4 года назад +4

    Love the new Defender. Bring on the 90's.

  • @davidfraga1672
    @davidfraga1672 4 года назад +17

    Loved that song at the beginning. It's "Hans Johnson - Maasai", by the way.

    • @akshayverma5429
      @akshayverma5429 4 года назад +1

      thank you so much

    • @daedal212
      @daedal212 4 года назад +1

      YES! TRULY hoped to find this, thanks a ton.

    • @samtatenumber1
      @samtatenumber1 3 года назад +1

      only good part of the whole video

  • @borkarms
    @borkarms 4 года назад

    Wowwww....what a review, what a location, what a Car.
    Defender- The ULTIMATE.

  • @patrickcavanaghkilmartin
    @patrickcavanaghkilmartin 4 года назад

    There's loads of tarmac in Namibia, but there's a load of lovely fast smooth dirt & a heap of rough tracks too.

  • @morphshag
    @morphshag 4 года назад +76

    So you did get a flat or you didn't? I'm confused.

    • @leviathan19
      @leviathan19 4 года назад +5

      he didnt the group did

    • @santoshmoopanar6584
      @santoshmoopanar6584 4 года назад +1

      His pack got a flat tyre but his car didn't get an flat tyre

    • @MrRiddle0
      @MrRiddle0 4 года назад

      The group as a whole (all the cars; royal we) did but he did not.

    • @willtricks9432
      @willtricks9432 4 года назад

      As clear and reliable as any journalist.

  • @shuaichen8690
    @shuaichen8690 4 года назад +22

    How about some torture test like the old time (aka Toyota hilux)??????

    • @alenkaltak4344
      @alenkaltak4344 4 года назад

      Hilux.🤔... with DPF problems 🤣🤣😂😂

    • @alenkaltak4344
      @alenkaltak4344 4 года назад

      @Righteous 200 series with 4.5 v8 diesel ...injectors $6.8k (not covered by warranty) i sold it .. and work mate with 260k on the clock dust passed air filter (common problem which Toyota refuses to fix) and $30k for new engine oouuuhhh

    • @alenkaltak4344
      @alenkaltak4344 4 года назад

      @Righteous I'm Aussie... different Toyota spec. We had 4.7 v8 good reliable motor but costly to run (early ones had couple problems) no car manufacturer are perfect but Toyota play safe " simple, use parts from previus model (if ain't broken don't change it )

  • @hanjodevilliers3984
    @hanjodevilliers3984 4 года назад +37

    "the only tarmac road in the whole of Namibia"??? You certainly don't have a clue.

    • @Thumbu-mz4up
      @Thumbu-mz4up 4 года назад +2

      Big lie right there. Namibia is full of good roads.

  • @mikec5820
    @mikec5820 4 года назад

    16:41 exemplifies the issue of a maxed out independent suspension: lack of down-travel.
    Still a very capable vehicle, but on a slope like that, keeping the wheels on the ground will provide a much more controlled descent.

  • @jamiermathlin
    @jamiermathlin 4 года назад +4

    The collective noun for moving Giraffe is a 'journey' , if they are stationary it is a 'tower', not a herd !! Nice video and Nice car :-)

  • @darius2640
    @darius2640 4 года назад +41

    you know the drill
    if theres no oil under a land rover,
    theres no oil in it

  • @dbmgaming3039
    @dbmgaming3039 4 года назад +1

    Why is everyone complaining about rhe presenter and saying it should be Hammond? Hammond has a video of the new Defender on Drivetribe and this is Top Gear magazine so even if the original trio were still with Top Gear they wouldnt be in this. I think this is a great video.

  • @barsdogukankarakoyun8798
    @barsdogukankarakoyun8798 4 года назад +10

    When you see "Top Gear" and think you're going to get a proper Hammond review buut reality is different.

    • @betaz1000
      @betaz1000 4 года назад

      Bla2... Go watch them at another channel.. learn to grow up and move on...

  • @megaxboxx
    @megaxboxx 4 года назад +85

    all i saw was 18 minutes of driving on a flat sand covered road....

    • @BobbyDazzler888
      @BobbyDazzler888 4 года назад +5

      hmm hmm go to carfection, much better review

    • @leroychandy4482
      @leroychandy4482 4 года назад +1

      ruclips.net/video/vac6mJE8rqo/видео.html
      Video of Land rover Defender made by Richard Hammond better short video..

    • @Tod_oMal
      @Tod_oMal 4 года назад +4

      This is just a nice off road car to bring kids to school. For Africa you still need a Land Cruiser.

    • @justicewarrior9187
      @justicewarrior9187 4 года назад +2

      All the reviews are paid by Range Rover

    • @megaxboxx
      @megaxboxx 4 года назад

      @@BobbyDazzler888 thanks

  • @BigAlex12310
    @BigAlex12310 4 года назад +10

    I miss my old 1993 90 defender called Betsy!

    • @592sunrise
      @592sunrise 4 года назад +1

      No computer boxes and air suspension..
      Straight old school

  • @justaguy6100
    @justaguy6100 4 года назад

    Given the great view of the head rests and the spare, but little else out of the rear view, the camera's a great idea in my book.

  • @AhmedMehluf
    @AhmedMehluf 4 года назад

    What ever you say top gear just has the best video graphics skills than all other car reviewer 😍😍😍

  • @roykim51
    @roykim51 4 года назад +11

    i will buy it if it can make it from dealer to my house without engine light on

  • @misterquintus
    @misterquintus 4 года назад +18

    More of a replacement for the FJ Cruiser than the Defender. If you want a Defender buy an old one and have it rebuilt to your perfect spec.

    • @richardshiggins704
      @richardshiggins704 4 года назад

      In fact it looks like the FJ though may miss miss a few fuel stops by comparison .

  • @Tindy4498
    @Tindy4498 4 года назад +7

    I feel like they are purposely trying to cover up the weird squares on the side

  • @dadventuretv2538
    @dadventuretv2538 4 года назад

    I have a 2016 LR4 (Disco 4) with the HD package (off road package with locking rear diff and low range). It is my primary and offroader. I do light to moderate (green and blue) and occasionally mild black diamond trails here in the Appalachian mountains in eastern USA as well as beach driving. Put Nitto Ridge Grapplers on the stock 20s and Johnson lift rods (2.5 inch), and in process of getting some 18 Compomotive wheels. Moved the spare from underneath to in the boot. It does just as well as any other veh out there (many that are way over modified for the trails we run ) and is neither more nor less reliable (although compared to some it’s been more reliable). No issues yet and 105K miles in it.
    The new Defender is basically its replacement, as the new Disco has become Explorerified. Things about my LR4 that drive me nuts as someone that wants to use it offroad and that Defender needed to fix:
    1. Wheels. Those damn 20s and lack of lots of aftermarket options. I understand that we won’t get 17s because of brakes for towing and I’m cool with that, but damn it make 18s available as an option with new delivery. Defender fixed that with one caveat- the 18s aren’t available on six cylinder. Fix that JLR.
    2. Tires- ok we’re gonna put on what we want, but it would be nice to be able to get some type of offroad capable tire at purchase so we don’t have to do it immediately. Defender fixed that.
    3. Spare underneath- just dumb for an offroader. First thing you have to do is move that. And getting an aftermarket tailgate, while possible, is a pain in the ass. Defender fixed that by putting the spare where it freakin belongs.
    4. Winch- again, not available at time of purchase and you can get them aftermarket for LR4 and install, but veh clearly was not designed with them in mind and it’s a pain in he ass. Defender fixed that.
    5. Good cubbies but lack of tie down spots. Defender seems to have added even more cubbies and fixed tie downs issue from what I could tell crawling around one at auto show.
    6. Rock sliders- again, not available at time of purchase and limited in aftermarket although available. Looks like Defender fixed this but need to confirm that what look like rock slider step rail on website are indeed that.
    On Defender they made the angles a bit better which is nice, increased the wading depth a bit which is nice, added this new configurable terrain response which is cool- there are times I wish I could just push a button and only lock the rear diff without changing everything else which I can’t do (I have to go to mud or rock crawl to engage it) but I understand I could configure a setting in the new second gen to do that so that’s cool, and they have this new low speed cruise control (whatever they are calling it) which is nice but I don’t really care too much about. I use hill decent on some really rocky decents because it does more than I can do with just a brake pedal, but I like using my right foot on flats or ups. With the terrain response also adjusting throttle input it really allows you feather the pedal in low range and rock or mud, not requiring a system like this, imo. So these updates are nice but not crucial imo, unlike the other things I listed.
    So my take is if you want a comfy daily, maybe you need or want a little badge cache, need to be able to tow more than 5K pounds but don’t want a pickup, want it to be good on road and especially long trips, and dont plan on doing hardcore rock bashing or double blacks offroad, this is probably a better veh than others that may do the hardcore offroading better but will suffer in the other areas- especially the towing. As an aside, I got my LR4 specifically bc it was one of the few options that was good offroad and was capable of towing more than 5K pounds as I have about 6K pound boat I tow. Whether you like the looks or not, well that’s personal preference. Re reliability- remains to be seen and I know Im waiting about 2 years before I consider getting one to see how it goes, but the old unreliable LR shtick has not been true on LR4s at least, and hopefully won’t be for its replacement either. And the legend of some other companies has fallen off recently in reality, although myths persist. And some other offroad brands that people love have about the same reliability ratings as LRs overall. So you just never really know.