This video is awesome in billions of ways, and the gold Dalek Emperor in this is awesome too he IMO really should have been in the classic Dr Who Dalek stories.
I'm totally uninterested in Dr Who. Yet, this video was compulsive! What a testament to dedication and disipline. How many hours did this take - approximately? Obviously you must have seen many episodes, but surely not all of them?
Really Wish they kept the original dalek design along with the eye stalk the original design was far more imposing and creepy. Could of had it where the imperial daleks are actually the original colour scheme and the renegades are more of darker metallic colour instead of being painted grey and white. The original design is better as it looks more realistic than the renegade design.
Non-serious message marker here: I fear that by making this video you have made yourself a higher priority target for extermination - Those Daleks don't seem like the sort to enjoy their secrets being shared. Then again they would also have to go after your viewers...and everyone else too cause they probably would continue exterminating anyways. Hope the Doctor drops by to sort that one out cause I rather not find out what happens if Daleks come along and make some, from their point of view, "desirable modifications" to a certain troublesome virus.
This was an excellent video and I love how you took audios, novels and comics into account to expand the lore even further! However, I'm confused by some of the placements in the timeline. For example, how exactly do you know that Power of the Daleks takes place after Remembrance? Those Daleks have the the 60s design (not the Imperial nor the Renegade design), so shouldn't it take place early on in the timeline? Another example: the placement of Revolution and Out of Time? They both feature the RTD/Time War designs (Revolution has the bronze Daleks and Out of Time has the red and gold Supreme), therefore shouldn't they take place after the Time War?
I believe the dalek designs are no longer placed in specific areas of history. The RTD design may have been used during the war, but were used earlier as they were just more advanced. Power Of The Daleks come after Remembrance as the ship is actually jettisoned from the tardis by the eighth doctor after davros’ second trial, book is called war of the daleks
According to TARDIS Wiki (really good info source on pretty much anything Doctor Who), the novel War of the Daleks serves as a bridge between Remembrance and The Power of the Daleks; it's one of a number of stories that follows on from Remembrance of the Daleks. As far as I can tell, the Dalek Empire of War of the Daleks is unified after the events of Remembrance, and I think the silver Daleks of The Power of the Daleks are back in as the main design. The end of War involves a Dalek factory ship being sent back in time to Vulcan, and seems to set up The Power of the Daleks. Granted, War of the Daleks does heavily alter Dalek canon in significant ways, but I don't think it's a complete retcon - although I myself haven't read it. The Daleks of Out of Time are explicitly stated to be from the Second Dalek War (aka around the time of Frontier in Space and Planet of the Daleks). The 2009 novel Prisoner of the Daleks is set in the war's final days, and it's explained that the grey Daleks of the 70s Dalek stories were swapped out for the bronze Daleks, as the grey Daleks weren't strong enough to succeed in the war any further. This is one of the first instances in Doctor Who, if not the first, to chuck in the idea of the bronze Daleks existing prior to the Time War. As a result, this somewhat explains why Out of Time has a red and gold NewWho Supreme Dalek leading 70s grey Daleks; it seems to be a mid-point in the Daleks shifting from the grey design to the bronze. Finally, I don't think anybody knows where Revolution of the Daleks is in the Dalek Empire's timeline, as it uses bronze Daleks, but makes almost no kind of distinction as to where its bronze Daleks are from in the timeline. However, their specific purpose of responding to Reconnaissance Scout signals suggests they may be from early in the Dalek Empire's timeline, as Recon Scout Daleks are stated in Resolution to have been the first Daleks to ever leave Skaro, thereby placing them very early in the Daleks' timeline. I'm not a fan of bronze Daleks being retroactively added into loads of Dalek eras though, it's cool for the big galactic wars, but aside from that I feel that anything else ruins the bronze design.
Didn't the events in The Evil of the Daleks happen after Destiny of the Daleks? If I remember well Evil happens after the Great War which started after The Dalek's Master Plan, this Great War was parallel to their war against the Movellans.
I never quite liked how Genesis of the Daleks progresses into Hartnell's The Daleks. It always seems like a step back for the Daleks to me. They just don't seem like the same Daleks. It's like as if Davros had a secret batch of Daleks hidden somewhere else on Skaro and were only awaken way into the future from their creation in Genesis.
Your argument flawed on one or two points. For one thing, the daleks arent designed just to eradicate all other life, their primary and most fundemental function os to ensure the survival of their race till the very end of time itself. In a related manner though it is often said the Daleks can only feel hatred, they are actually shown throughout the series to be capable of fear as well, after all they need a self preservation instinct as well as a murder instinct to fulfill both their functions, it is actuallt this trait which has led them, at times to mutate themselves beyond the dalek imperative and try and become something else. Dalek Sec, Dalek Kaan and Rusty for example. Also there was the daleks who tried to isolate "the human factor" in the 4th doctors run. So nearly although all such examples were killed off, there is a slim hope for even the Daleks being redeemed.
does that include the part when the upgraded daleks were made and the daleks that watched them be made were immediately like "i understand you should kill me right now"
It's not to do with the bronze casing, which is just another casing, but the Dalek creature inside being "pure" Dalek. Since the ones in "Victory" were essentially Davros clones, the Paradigm Daleks destroyed them. Any bronze Daleks seen alongside Paradigm Daleks after that are all "pure" Daleks. The different casings denote rank.
@@boblowes darthvaders power and presence the demonstration of there power through the destruction of Alderaan the rebels constantly being on the back foot. The Daleks also do similar things but they just don’t explore it further or it all gets resolved in the end like that dumbass time war shit where the daleks finally get one over the doctor and his entire race but it all gets reversed and the subsequent episodes the daleks are just fodder.
@@magtegi2 But Star Wars also has a much bigger budget than Doctor Who, and isn't made under the same constraints of time. For example - we know the Daleks can enslave whole worlds and largely wipe out and entire populations from as far back as the Dalek Invasion of Earth. But we don't tend to see it, because (a. - it would have been impossible for them to shoot that at the time, and b. - because it's the least interesting bit of the story).
What century did Skaro and the Kaleds exist? Are they an ancient human race? Millions, billions, or thousands of years ago like the ancients in Stargate? Or an earth colony?
@@URECentralCommand well It depends on what era of Daleks Pretty much all pre time war Daleks would get stomped The post time war Daleks could do well But the Time War Daleks would definitely stomp the Borg Those guys are a multiversal threat
With the change in the Doctor's origin. Wouldn't it be interesting to find out, that a previous incarnation had visited a planet, where he would encounter two Humanoid races. 1) of, Tall, White, Blue Eyed, Blondes, who are Decadent, Aristocrats, who like Hunting and Killing. 2) of, Shorter, Salo skinned, Brown Eyed, Dark Haired, interested in the Sciences, and Mathematics, Teachers and Philosophers, who treat by the others as servants. And, the Doctor, taught the oppressed group how to rebel, fight back, and gain their independence. ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Which explains why the Doctor was imprisoned In the list of crimes during her time in the division she basically caused the Daleks and was known as the Kaled god of war
For what it's worth, I have a Fanfiction story, where a former Saucer Commander Dalek, makes him, go back in time, to before the Kaled mutations started.
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This video is awesome in billions of ways, and the gold Dalek Emperor in this is awesome too he IMO really should have been in the classic Dr Who Dalek stories.
Jesus this must of taken a lot of time and work. Well done
Holy crap that was amazing you included the games aswell well done mate
Really Enjoyed that never really been a science fiction fan , however as far back as i remember i have always been a fan of the daleks
To think: all of this started from some small planet's war that nobody knows how it started
Holy crap, I was only expecting you to work within the confines of the show. Well done!!!!
Daleks conquer and destroy!!!
I'm totally uninterested in Dr Who. Yet, this video was compulsive! What a testament to dedication and disipline. How many hours did this take - approximately? Obviously you must have seen many episodes, but surely not all of them?
Really Wish they kept the original dalek design along with the eye stalk the original design was far more imposing and creepy. Could of had it where the imperial daleks are actually the original colour scheme and the renegades are more of darker metallic colour instead of being painted grey and white. The original design is better as it looks more realistic than the renegade design.
Holy moly! Wow wow! I saw one of your older videos earlier now seeing this and wow!
This is why you should not cross your own time line
Wow! Just WOW!!!
I wonder what theyer up to right now? Hmmm...
Just in case anyone forgot , Dalek is an anagram of kaled
Great in-depth analysis of the daleks!
Non-serious message marker here: I fear that by making this video you have made yourself a higher priority target for extermination - Those Daleks don't seem like the sort to enjoy their secrets being shared. Then again they would also have to go after your viewers...and everyone else too cause they probably would continue exterminating anyways. Hope the Doctor drops by to sort that one out cause I rather not find out what happens if Daleks come along and make some, from their point of view, "desirable modifications" to a certain troublesome virus.
exterminate!
You’re a viewer😅
@@Eddo15878 Exactly! Why do you think I was making the above point? Kudos on picking up on the main punchline there, though.
This was an excellent video and I love how you took audios, novels and comics into account to expand the lore even further!
However, I'm confused by some of the placements in the timeline. For example, how exactly do you know that Power of the Daleks takes place after Remembrance? Those Daleks have the the 60s design (not the Imperial nor the Renegade design), so shouldn't it take place early on in the timeline?
Another example: the placement of Revolution and Out of Time? They both feature the RTD/Time War designs (Revolution has the bronze Daleks and Out of Time has the red and gold Supreme), therefore shouldn't they take place after the Time War?
I believe the dalek designs are no longer placed in specific areas of history. The RTD design may have been used during the war, but were used earlier as they were just more advanced. Power Of The Daleks come after Remembrance as the ship is actually jettisoned from the tardis by the eighth doctor after davros’ second trial, book is called war of the daleks
@@ZagreusProductions Ah ok, those are interesting explanations. Thanks!
@@gazda69 no worries! There are quite a few but that’s the best one for me personally
According to TARDIS Wiki (really good info source on pretty much anything Doctor Who), the novel War of the Daleks serves as a bridge between Remembrance and The Power of the Daleks; it's one of a number of stories that follows on from Remembrance of the Daleks. As far as I can tell, the Dalek Empire of War of the Daleks is unified after the events of Remembrance, and I think the silver Daleks of The Power of the Daleks are back in as the main design. The end of War involves a Dalek factory ship being sent back in time to Vulcan, and seems to set up The Power of the Daleks. Granted, War of the Daleks does heavily alter Dalek canon in significant ways, but I don't think it's a complete retcon - although I myself haven't read it.
The Daleks of Out of Time are explicitly stated to be from the Second Dalek War (aka around the time of Frontier in Space and Planet of the Daleks). The 2009 novel Prisoner of the Daleks is set in the war's final days, and it's explained that the grey Daleks of the 70s Dalek stories were swapped out for the bronze Daleks, as the grey Daleks weren't strong enough to succeed in the war any further. This is one of the first instances in Doctor Who, if not the first, to chuck in the idea of the bronze Daleks existing prior to the Time War. As a result, this somewhat explains why Out of Time has a red and gold NewWho Supreme Dalek leading 70s grey Daleks; it seems to be a mid-point in the Daleks shifting from the grey design to the bronze.
Finally, I don't think anybody knows where Revolution of the Daleks is in the Dalek Empire's timeline, as it uses bronze Daleks, but makes almost no kind of distinction as to where its bronze Daleks are from in the timeline. However, their specific purpose of responding to Reconnaissance Scout signals suggests they may be from early in the Dalek Empire's timeline, as Recon Scout Daleks are stated in Resolution to have been the first Daleks to ever leave Skaro, thereby placing them very early in the Daleks' timeline. I'm not a fan of bronze Daleks being retroactively added into loads of Dalek eras though, it's cool for the big galactic wars, but aside from that I feel that anything else ruins the bronze design.
Timey Wimey sciencey stuff mate
How could there have been 200 years of peace though? What would a Dalek do for 200 if not killing and destroying? It's what there are.
Not trolling I'm genuinely interested, how did the Daleks build anything without thumbs?
Sometimes robomen, sometimes Ograns, but mostly slave labor.
Love these videos of the history of who
Could you do the History of the Torchwood institution? That would be amazing!
This video deserves so much more love. Great work.
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Awesome video but you forgot about the dalek that time forgot where Khan is sent back into the time war by the paradigm daleks to save davros
Didn't the events in The Evil of the Daleks happen after Destiny of the Daleks? If I remember well Evil happens after the Great War which started after The Dalek's Master Plan, this Great War was parallel to their war against the Movellans.
it's a shame that Davros used his genius for evil by creating those abominations of destruction, rather than using it for good, what a waste.
He’s not real.
@@JRHainsworth I know that.
👁️ had fun 🤙 cheers mate
Well done! This is a well made Video and very informative and entertaining!
Amazing!
Great Vid. the term Fam makes me gag when I hear it.
Excellent video The Whoniverse!
Where would you say the series DALEKS would fit in?
Also would you make one of these based on the Cybermen?
DALEKS is from another timeline the TLV timdline
@@TheeCrazyDoctor is it tho?
Was The Daleks Master Plan mentioned in this? I'm listening to this instead of watching so if they showed some pictures from it I didn't see them
So are the Daleks that the 13th Doctor called to earth pre time war daleks?
The Bronze Daleks didn't appear until the time war and after
So they're post time war
well done that was a great vid
that was excellent, thanks
Is there going to be a updated version yet again since we got the time lord victorious and eve of the Daleks btw you forgot the Daleks master plan
Whoniverse probably didn't watch Daleks master plan. 12 parts long and its only in reconstructions.
I will do a updated timelord Victorious, I apologise as I haven't watched the Daleks master plan yet!
@@TheWhoniverseYT very well
I never quite liked how Genesis of the Daleks progresses into Hartnell's The Daleks. It always seems like a step back for the Daleks to me. They just don't seem like the same Daleks. It's like as if Davros had a secret batch of Daleks hidden somewhere else on Skaro and were only awaken way into the future from their creation in Genesis.
This is awesome
You should do a who are the Vashta Nerada I haven’t seen a video about them
No worries I will get to it as soon as I can!
Man I had no idea about baisically anything about Davros
Nice work
I don't know who he's talking about at 45:22.
The person he's showing is called Soufley Girl.
Your argument flawed on one or two points. For one thing, the daleks arent designed just to eradicate all other life, their primary and most fundemental function os to ensure the survival of their race till the very end of time itself. In a related manner though it is often said the Daleks can only feel hatred, they are actually shown throughout the series to be capable of fear as well, after all they need a self preservation instinct as well as a murder instinct to fulfill both their functions, it is actuallt this trait which has led them, at times to mutate themselves beyond the dalek imperative and try and become something else. Dalek Sec, Dalek Kaan and Rusty for example. Also there was the daleks who tried to isolate "the human factor" in the 4th doctors run. So nearly although all such examples were killed off, there is a slim hope for even the Daleks being redeemed.
does that include the part when the upgraded daleks were made and the daleks that watched them be made were immediately like "i understand you should kill me right now"
Wait but if the bronze daleks destroyed the paradigm how did they appear in asylum, why would they ally themselves with the paradigm?
I'm pretty sure some paradigm daleks joined the bronze ones
It's not to do with the bronze casing, which is just another casing, but the Dalek creature inside being "pure" Dalek. Since the ones in "Victory" were essentially Davros clones, the Paradigm Daleks destroyed them. Any bronze Daleks seen alongside Paradigm Daleks after that are all "pure" Daleks. The different casings denote rank.
How can they ever be taken seriusly if they lose 99% of the time
Because they don't. They only ever lose to The Doctor
Why is the Empire in Star Wars so feared, when their Stormtroopers can't shoot straight?
It's a storytelling convention.
@@boblowes darthvaders power and presence the demonstration of there power through the destruction of Alderaan the rebels constantly being on the back foot.
The Daleks also do similar things but they just don’t explore it further or it all gets resolved in the end like that dumbass time war shit where the daleks finally get one over the doctor and his entire race but it all gets reversed and the subsequent episodes the daleks are just fodder.
@@magtegi2 But Star Wars also has a much bigger budget than Doctor Who, and isn't made under the same constraints of time. For example - we know the Daleks can enslave whole worlds and largely wipe out and entire populations from as far back as the Dalek Invasion of Earth. But we don't tend to see it, because (a. - it would have been impossible for them to shoot that at the time, and b. - because it's the least interesting bit of the story).
@@boblowes" because it's the least interesting bit of the story)." yeah i disagree
the golden emperor is the best emperor. which is also me. because i am also called the golden emperor
20:47 what’s this from?
A big finish book I don’t know which one
Out of Time
Do you class audios and books/comics as can and all or just the show
Audios, books and comics were all used for this video.
What century did Skaro and the Kaleds exist?
Are they an ancient human race? Millions, billions, or thousands of years ago like the ancients in Stargate?
Or an earth colony?
While they are humanoids they aren't an earth colony
What century? It hasn't really been mentioned
Are you The Whoniverse book author?
lovelyy stufff
Where are Recon scout and Defense Daleks?
This video was made a bit before those episodes came out
What about the alliance to cage the doctor in the pandorica
Fals and Kaleds? Fals?
And Kaled is clearly Dalek backwards as well.
It isn't. Kaled backwards is Delak.
No thals ?
they woulnt stand a chance against The Borg!
Except the Borg can't really adapt to counter time altering tech and universe destroying super weapons
Walkover or rather, rollover
Given them half a chance and they will
no the daleks will win
@@URECentralCommand well
It depends on what era of Daleks
Pretty much all pre time war Daleks would get stomped
The post time war Daleks could do well
But the Time War Daleks would definitely stomp the Borg
Those guys are a multiversal threat
With the change in the Doctor's origin.
Wouldn't it be interesting to find out, that a previous incarnation had visited a planet,
where he would encounter two Humanoid races.
1) of, Tall, White, Blue Eyed, Blondes, who are Decadent, Aristocrats, who like Hunting and Killing.
2) of, Shorter, Salo skinned, Brown Eyed, Dark Haired, interested in the Sciences, and Mathematics, Teachers and Philosophers, who treat by the others as servants.
And, the Doctor, taught the oppressed group how to rebel, fight back, and gain their independence.
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Which explains why the Doctor was imprisoned
In the list of crimes during her time in the division she basically caused the Daleks and was known as the Kaled god of war
@@lordferbus2970 Owwww.
Didn't think of that.
And of course being the Doctor, wouldn't thought of asking on what charges ?
For what it's worth, I have a Fanfiction story, where a former Saucer Commander Dalek, makes him, go back in time, to before the Kaled mutations started.
"......the 13th Doctor and her 'FAM'" (sic).... ...........NNNNNOOOOOOOOO ! 💩💩💩
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I thought dar dialects did not
Kill their own kind
this video fell apart at 15:46.
Great info but Fam ruins it
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why don't they give up and wipe themselves out.
They've tried wiping themselves out a few times in civil wars
Great video, but can you not pronounce “th”? It’s death, not deaf. Thirteenth, not firteenf.
It's called an accent you absolute snob
Some dialects of English don’t have them.
@@calamityapple2044that is correct
Practice saying t-h not f-r.
Thanks :)