14900K + DDR5 8200Mhz Versus CPU Bound Games!
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2024
- Hello all! Today we are taking a look at my 14900K + DDR5 8200Mhz + 4090 System dominating some very cpu bound and unoptimized games...yes, including Warzone ;)
Full System Specs + Overclock Details
AMD Main PC
Windows 11 23H2 Revi OS
1440p 270HZ Acer Monitor (With Backlight Strobing)
RTX 4090 3030Mhz core + 1200Mhz Mem, 450Watt Power Limit
7800X3D (2133FCLK, Per Core Undervolt)
360MM Cooler Master AIO (6 fans push pull, Noctua NT-H2 thermal paste)
DDR5 6200Mhz CL30(with tuned subtimings)
X670E Asus Crosshair Gene Mobo
1350 Watt Thermaltake PSU
Cooler Master H500 Mesh Case (white)
3 Terabytes of NVME SSD's
Intel Main PC
Windows 11 23H2 Revi OS
14900K 24 Core CPU
360 AIO Galahad Trinity Performance White
32GB DDR5 8200Mhz CL 36 48 48 48
Z790 Apex Encore
1000Watt EVGA PSU
1TB NVME SSD
Jonsbo Test Bench Case
My WZ2 AND MW3 Config Files:
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Super awesome video dude thank you so much🎉🎉
Im looking forward to seeing your bios settings video i have the apex encore and some new A-die memory on the way!👍👌
Thank you , this actually helped me run stable on my x2 48gb kit at 8200mhz, I have the 14900k + z790 Apex Encore, Stix 4090.
Haha I got same problem, 14900k+apex encore+g.skill 24x2 8200mhz kit can't run stable xmp1 and 2. Already try to change my voltage vdd,vddq,cpu sa around 1.35-1.45 still can't find stable setting. Mind Only stable at 7800hmz
Salut, am un ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO si 14900k , 2x32 5600mz , singurul mod prin care reusesc sa il stabilizez e prin SVID Behavior -Intel Fail Safe si coolarul dat la maxim in Warzone sau Conebanch , oare ai cumva ceva setari magice macar cu un xmp1 sau 2 sa nu treaca de 100grd sau sa se reseteze ? apropo am un Ryjin II 360 ca si racire Merci
Just subbed thanks
Hi i have a question. I do game in 4k and how much will il be gpu bound with 4090 with optimized 14900k + 8200 ram ?
Is it worth going too 5090 in future ? Or will the intel system be a bottleneck for that 5090 ?
Do you play with G sync on? I notice it adds some input lag which could affect the smoothness
What is 1% low's guys?
If you wanted to choose between 7800X3d and 14700kf , for gaming which one's better to choose ?
FPS in pubg fights , with lots of smoke and etc , i wounder wich cpu performs better under those circumstanses.
I really need high speed ram aswell , 7200Mhz.
So 7800x3d + 7200Mhz ram Or 14700kf + 7200mhz ram.
Wich ones more stable and better?
appriciate if you reply , ty
Curious how you have your drives setup due to the limited PCIE lanes? I'm looking to replace my 8700K setup for Stalker 2. Not happy with the issues I have on my AMD 3950X system so no AMD for the gaming rig.
The limited PCIE lanes are only an issue with Gen 5 SSDs fam. It doesn't set the GPU lanes to X8 unless you have it set to PCIE gen 5 manually or have a Gen 5 SSD installed. I'm using a Gen 3 970 Evo, meaning it's working normally regardless of SSD slot used.
@@Beefy-TechI was using a gen4 ssd in gen 5 slot and it set my gpu to x8. I now have two gen 4’s in dimm 2 and my gpu is running at x16. Is this recommended? I’m getting some freezing when opening applications and booting into windows for a few seconds here and there. Can’t seem to get to bottom of what’s causing it. Any ideas? I’m running 14900k with apex encore and g skill 8000 with xmp 1 profile.
Yes please go into detail on how to overclock especially the ram. I have almost the exact setup with the Asus apex m/b.
Sadly it's going to have to be a very long and detailed video...as the process is quiet long and tedious and mostly involves trial and error.
While I'm going to try simplify the terms and methods for the general user, it may still be a bit confusing, but I guess we'll see🤣
@@Beefy-Tech what is the max voltage for vddp and vddq voltage?
Hey! Nice vid! First time I saw that a reviewer shares it’s OC values. Regarding Mem OC it’s a whole topic but with an apex all it’s just easy. Perhaps you could lower your VDD/Q to 8200 having a 7600 kit at 1.4V. If you set RTTs/RONs you would have a good delta, for that timings you could use 1.53VDD and 1.48VDDQ with TX in Auto (1.3), SA it’s good, you don’t have the “bug”, and MC around 1.45-48 depending on the CPU. Intel is quite better than AMD for all kind of OC.. and if you have and apex encore like me, much easier! I love your vid!
Does rebar on make a difference in The finals? Also thank you for your videos. Great content!
Thank you, for your honest opinion.
I have 1 question about the amd ryzen 7000 x3d cpus (i have the 7800x3d).
Is it normal, that my cpu tempspikes while browsing can jump up to 77c ?
For example, if i scroll up and down on youtube, my temps goes up to 71c.
And while gaming (Cod mw3) 56-61c (144fps cap) but in the lobbys it can jump up to 80c.
Cinebench r23 79-81c. 18200 multi 1800 singlecore. Im so confused, i never seen these crazy temp jumps on a cpu. (20-30c jumps for seconds)
I dont care about my YT channel but i uploaded 2 videos. There you can see what i mean. You have to focus on cpu temp.
I hope you can help me becsuse no one saying this on youtube, that the 7000x3d cpus can jump up to 70c+ while small things like browsing.
Im writing this here because i saw that your a honest guy, which i really appreciate.
My english is not the best, sorry for this
Is your V soc set manually or just left on auto? The spikes aren't that unusual but if you want to minimise them have a manual V soc and it may help out a bit.
@@Beefy-Tech everything stock only expo is set to enable. (1.240V hwinfo64)
newest bios
asus tuf gaming b650 plus wifi
psu deepcool px1000g
cooler deepcool assassin IV
ram: 32gb gskill tridenz z neo rgb 6000mhz
do you ever have video mem errors or crashes on games. i have similar specs as u. after changing performance core ratio to x55 i dont get error anymore but i still might crash. i reinstalled every type of software again and passed mem test. i think its a directx12 issue
I stabilized this setup so I don't have any crashes or issues in games. I had some trouble with the DDR5 8200mhz but I managed to stabilize it fully as of recent.
Just copied your oc settings and it is running smoothly for me. Getting 220 average with highs of almost 300 on 4k low with high textures on the finals. Shits insane. This is with stock 4090. I'm seeing 30-40% improvement over my old 12900k so definitely worth the upgrade if you have high refresh rate monitors. I have 1440 360 and 4k 240 so for me it was.
The only thing that is bugging me is sometimes when I open applications my pc will freeze for a second. It happens every time I lauch steam after booting. Any idea what could be causing this? I am on revios, which I also installed thanks to a comment you left on one of your other videos.
My specs:
14900k
Asus apex encore
g skill 8000 ddr5
msi suprim x 4090
1000w psu
ek 360 aio
Hey man, glad to hear your pc is running great! Regarding the apps freezing, it's either the specific app (Razer synapse for example freezes any pc when it opens up) or it's your power plan! If you are on Ultimate performance, try switch to high performance.
Also, make sure your chipset drivers are installed!
Enjoy the performance fam!
@@Beefy-Techhey thanks for getting back to me. I figured out the freezing is actually caused by the nvidia driver and specifically the amount of video modes (resolutions) that are being loaded each time on a fresh boot or when the display driver restarts. I was able to remove a lot of them by turning off display scaling and the freezing went from 6 seconds down to 0.5. I have reported to nvidia support so hopefully be a fix on the way in the near future.
Is your mouse polling at 4000hz? Getting the strangest mouse hangs in games lately. Not sure if it's Windows 11 updates or not. Rolled back 23H2 still a problem.
I'm using 1000hz for CPU testing just to not increase variables, but I normally play at 2000hz polling as warzone is very CPU heavy. What CPU are you on?
@@Beefy-Tech 13700k @ 5.7 all core, ring 5, e cores @ 4.3, DDR4 4000 cl15. I think Google knows I may ditch this board if I can’t sort it out with something with DDR5. Currently on a MSI Tomahawk.
@@TheBrandonAF it could just be the windows version yes. I've seen people report weird finicky issues on the latest 23h2 version...but sadly 23h2 is also the best performer FPS wise lol
@@TheBrandonAF I have Z790 Tomahawk DDR5 with 13600K and same issues really with 4000 CL15 RAM.
Please add 2042 too! It's super interesting 😊
Sure, I keep forgetting about 2042 man xD. Every time I say I'll test it n then I forget it exists 🥲
Thanks bro. Can you do a side by side comparison of this system with 7800x3d one?
It's coming soon ;) I have to re-overclock my 7800x3d ram as I slapped a fancy A die kit in now so the 7800x3d has a fair comparison again the 14900K.
@@Beefy-Tech Can you do non overclocked comparison side by side. XMP on and away you go.
@@Beefy-Tech perfect :)
@@Bobthebuilder2235 could be fun to do stock Vs stock then OC Vs OC... Actually a good idea🤔
@@Beefy-Tech yep please do! Also please debunk this whole AMD DIP rubbish once and for all (I still think framechasers has a point its just weird that I dont see HUB or Gamernexus reporting the same findings. I have decided to pass my 7800X3D to a family member and purchase a 14700k to pair with my 4080... I give up on AMD!
Magically ‼this 💖🔆🤪
You should have a graph showing 7800x3d numbers next to 14900k to see the exact differences. Do you agree now with Jufes from Frame chasers ?
I disagree with him, as the 7800x3d is amazing and doesn't dip🤣 but that doesn't mean the 14900k doesn't have a purpose 👍 a good 7800x3d setup will keep up or win in most games, especially when paired with great ram and a good undervolt...but games where shaders are not pre cached in CPU is where the 7800x3d will have the most problems, with stability. The way I'd describe it is that the 7800x3d requires proper setup to work well, and a 14900K requires just to not overheat to work well🤣
Friend, I want a PC to play Warzone in competitive graphics, I want the highest FPS possible! which processor is better? 7800x3d, 7900x3d, 7950x3d or 14900kf
I'd go with 7800x3d if you want the easiest high FPS achieveable.
what motherboard do you recommend for the 7800x3d? should I not get a X670 mobo?
x670 steel legend very good for that price
1.63v on the RAMS?? And you aren't having temps issues? Only air cooling for them?
I know I saw that and was damn thats kind of high voltage 1.63
Hags is better than nvidia reflex latency setting that is in the game?
They do theoretically do different things, and HAGS as implemented within windows 11 23h2 works well, so I'd recommend reflex latency off in game, and HAGS on in windows
salut, eu acum am r5 5600 cu rtx 3070, ce recomanzi ca upgrade? 7800x3d cu 7900xt/4070ti sau 14600kf z790 nova si rami sa le fac oc la 8000 cu timinguri? pot si 5800x3d cu 7900xtx
Cu 14600KF si Z790 Nova nu ai stii sigur ca poti duce nici macar 7600mhz...asa ca recomand 7800x3d ca va merge cu price placa de baza si orice ram.
@@Beefy-Tech si 5800x3d pleaca din plan nu? Am deja niste rami 3733cl16 sub 150ns trfc si toate timingurile facute
@@Beefy-Tech as putea pur si simplu sa iau un 5800x3d si 7900xtx fara sa schimb rami placa etc dar nush daca e cea mai buna optiune
@@Beefy-Techai testat z790 nova cu 14600k sau 14900k ? De vb aiurea .....
FIRST! Been waiting on this one man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🎉🎉🎉
just tested same route in WZ3 with 7800x3d 4090, 1st run 220+ 1% lows and then 2nd run was struggling to keep 200 BUH
Servers are incredibly inconsistent fam...been having issues with them too lol truly a pain
@@Beefy-Tech yup small company they need more 💰
@@GoldenEagle0007😂😂
Hey mate, I guess the main reason of a fps drop outside of the city in Pubg was dx11. Could you check PUBG with dx11E (enhanced) or dx 12? I'm about to get a board with ability of stable 8000+ Mhz and would truly appreciate your input :)
The pubg results make sense yea the cpu has to draw all the outlines of all the buildings but there are also a lot more line of sight blockers making the things behind the building not render whilst looking in the distance renders tons of objects
Yeah, it behaves the same on AMD CPUs too... So it's a game specific thing rather than anything else. Cod actually does a much better job in terms of consistency these days which is funny lol
I currently have a 14700k and it draws a lot of power during gaming. I had to power limit it to 80 watts to be somewhat efficient. Thinking about returning the platform and going AMD
Ur a troll, why would you buy an Intel cpu if you wanted to game on 80W?! You would undervolt and not tdp limit the 14700k if you really wanted good performance 80W. With only 80W the cpu would stay cool at all times so you could reduce voltage by a large amount.
amd f4g lol, i7 and i9 will be almost idle in most games, unless ur doing some bech and push then to 150w at the wrost case, wich is the same of most am5 ryzens at same stress
Looking forward to your overclocking guide for the 14900
I would also like a video overclocking ram and intel cpu on asus mobo
The main draw of the 7800x3d is not that It itself is 200 Dollars cheaper but the fact that it makes your whole system cheaper doesn't draw over 80w in most games for me that's a big save on the power supply runs on the cheapest am5 motherboard without throttling or vrm issues can be cooled with dirt cheap coolers and is really silent with something like thermalright peerless assassin that is often under 30 dollars runs at nearly the same performance with dirt cheap memory
I agree fam...it's gives you guaranteed performance and a cheaper platform overall. Most people won't even know how to properly overclock a 14900K, or want to spend the time to get the oc perfect. The beauty of the 7800x3d is that overclocking is dead easy. The only hard part is setting it up initially 🤣
@@Beefy-Tech for gamers sure, but for people who do more than just gaming the extra cores come very handy
Why do you turn off rebar
Warzone problems with rebar lol. Rebar currently hurts CPU in a lot of random spots on the map, so I keep it off for stability.
Thank you for your time and effort. Great content. Could you include "Hell Let Loose"? Game is in unreal engine. Pretty big player base. Hard on cpu, alot of micro stutters (not bad as NMS but close). Cheers
That sounds fun... Thinking to do a stutter comparison between AMD and intel on the worst optimized CPU bound games😂
brother its me siddhant . could you do a cs2 video with the i9 14th gen and 4090
I have a problem with CS2. If I activate MSI afterburner to test it, it hurts my trust factor with the anti cheat because CS2 doesn't play well with third party software, so testing CS is a slight issue because of that.
on 7950x3d the scheduling of the cores of the 2 ccd, the first with the x3d cache and Second without, not work at his best..... this is why the 7800x3d is better for gaming than the others high amd cpu core count.....
7950x3d scheduling is a mess, and sadly requires process lasso 9/10 times to guarantee it works well. If set up right though, you can get great results on it.
@@Beefy-Tech process lasso has been found to decrease performance in games instead of increasing it though... loads of people are just hyping it and no one has properly tested lasso on vs off and more often than not lasso on is worse performance than lasso on in games... intel is still best way to go
@@dex4sure361 Interesting, I had heard of process lasso being used by people with a 13900K to make sure games stay on the P-Cores, but was skeptical. Honestly even if it worked, out of principle I would never add yet another piece of software on my PC just to make it work correctly. It is on Intel, AMD, & Microsoft to make sure hybrid architecture works correctly. I already run Throttlestop because there is still a bug in Windows 11 that causes Defender to eat up CPU time for no reason.
@@lateralus2612 It makes the performance worse. The only way to get games run "properly" P cores is by disabling E cores in BIOS. But these days more often than not E cores help with gaming performance. Windows 10 didnt use them correctly, but Windows 11 does.
@@lateralus2612 That throttlestop issue is related to having iGPU turned on. Windows 10 and 11 use iGPU to accelerate anti-virus scanning, but there's some bug regarding it. If you disable iGPU the problem disappears. I've tested that before.
If he's the sort of man who likes to test games because they bring high-end CPUs to their knees, he's going to LOVE Kingdom Come: Deliverance!😆
Welcome to the intel club haha
My 7800x3d and 7900xtx sitting there all upset in the back of the video lol
@@Beefy-Tech hahah I mean at least it's still gonna be used later 😂😂
Plus the difference in price of $40-$50 the 14900K is more than worth the jump
Yup. I am glad the 14900K I got is 8200mhz capable... otherwise I wouldof been gutted getting an Apex mobo for nothing😂🤣
@@Beefy-Tech 😂 true statement
how to overclock R7 5800X ?
Pbo negative 20, all cores
@@nabilbaroudi5457 I tried it and there is no difference. In fact, the opposite reduces the processor's performance
You tried to set PBO curve optimizer to negative ? let it at negative -20, then on power limit in the overclock part, put manual, you can download Ryzen master before to see the PPT and EC you normaly use and increase both by 10 w, like that in OC menu PBO, you can put a 50 mHz positive offset, then in cpu voltage overclock part, you add a negative 0.05 (50mV) off set, sorry i know its a bit complicated, if PBO doesnt help that can mean you need a little bit more power (PPT and EDC) but dont put too much or it will be hot, ryzen master gives you the initial value you use during benchmark but you do modification directly in bios (and of course realy important to put XMP of your RAM on in bios)
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-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK are they A or M die bro ?
i have 7800x3d May I have all the timeing you have with Voltage ?
yeah honestly, it was expected from a new gen no matter how stupidly bad this new gen is to improve 1% fps. 14900k is a good cpu in terms of performance, but just not really worth it. If only zen 4 had better memory controller, the results could've been much more interesting
The brand new 8700G CPU is showing super interesting results already! It's a monolithic die which seemingly allows for higher FCLK (which is one of the primary things you want to increase on AMD CPUs for better performance). This means potential Asus X670E gene + future CPUs will allows combinations such as a 2:1 8000mhz ram and 2400FCLK, which will outright beat 1:1 configurations.
Great video, I actually have a 7800X3D has given me sooo many issues (Im sure alot people probably dont).... It has been a nightmare, I have spent hrs upon hrs trouble shooting.... Wish I went intel.... Average FPS is great, heat output is amazing but just has not been worth all the headaches....
@@kynariaijja yeah exactly my issues. Horrible 1% lows, ram stability issues (tbf which are fixed now), bios screen not loading (still not fixed). Windows isn’t snappy etc. Just over it. My 5900x had 0 issues. I guess it’s the design of the X3d cpus.
have a 7800x3d for 3 months .Not single issue
@@thedarkangelpt yeah some people don’t. What mobo do you have? I have a x670e ASUS tuff gaming mobo.
@@Bobthebuilder2235 im using a x670 tomahawk
@@Bobthebuilder2235 I get stutters when I tab out and go back into the game a lot but if I apply the fullscreen again its sorts it or just need to restart game.
There is zero point in tuning DC_LL and AC_LL when using Manual VRM Voltage. Leave them on auto.
They still heavily affect the voltage on Asus motherboards. Intact if I set them to auto the entire system stability plummets ATM. The manual voltages scale totally differently with DC AC load lines being used.
150 to 200Watt cpu 😂 With the price I have for electricity... it should be an increase in the bill of 20 euros per month easily
The 14900k often draws more power than the 4090🤣
Great video, been using the i9 13850K @5.8GHz with the old RTX 2090 24GB @2100MHz
Runs games like Fortnite 2 really well!
Where my oc video for intel
1.456v Vcore is high for 24/7 usage
If you have programs running in the background, i.e. discord, web browser, etc. you will never see 2 P-Core ratio when gaming. Hell, most games run on at least 4 threads these days... so I don't even think a 4 P-core ratio makes sense. I would argue TVB has much more potential in combination with V/F point tuning. The problem is Intel has not provided the tools necessary for even smart people to understand how to tune TVB and V/F points. Asus has some really good proprietary software for tuning V/F points and TVB, but no way I would pay the $650 Asus is asking for the Apex Encore... and every other Z790 board is 2 dimm per channel at which point why bother... just get a 7800X3D.
Even as someone who doesn't really sweat over the price of expensive hardware, I really do not expect the motherboard market to be able to sustain these high prices for decent Intel boards with 1DPC for good memory overclocking. I'm lucky because I built my system during 13th gen when Z690 Unify-X was available which had a reasonable price. The ideal world for Intel in the future would be good 1DPC memory boards coming available at $400-$450 price range, as well as better software. Asus has the best BIOS and software for these complicated overclock features, like TVB and V/F point voltage adjustment. But out of principle there is no way I would give a company $650 for a motherboard. Hell if I was Intel CEO, I would start wondering why let this market go to third parties when they are charging as much for the motherboard as for the CPU itself, and then don't even implement Intel's technologies correctly. Intel should pull a Microsoft, start making their own motherboards to set a better standard and force the market to change. That's what Microsoft was doing when they made the first Surface devices.
*8200 MT/s. When are people (including the manufacturers which keep perpetuating this mistake) going to learn ?
Still 8200MT/s at CAS latency of 36 cycles is pretty nice. I can't wait for a fully, max possible tune for max FPS, somehow it's sorely missing on RUclips. It's like everybody decided they're too tired to try it on 13th and 14th gen. Or that disabling the E-cores is a fatal sin. Nobody interested at least for the "for science" part, to see how far a 14900K can go if tuned for max FPS.
Mine as an example is capable of booting 6.2ghz all core (which crashes OCCT test instantly, but doesn't bluescreen). At 6.1 All Core it ran 7 minutes with no errors then black screened, at 6.0ghz it runs fine no issues. My problem is that I have a maximum voltage limit at load line 7 I can use while not absolutely thermal throttling...so given more temperature headroom, 6.2 is very much achieveable, just not with normal cooling methods.
As for ram, up to 8400 boots for me, past that I get no boot...but given I am still having trouble with 8200 stability, I'm not going to venture further.
Boot on boot stability is the current issue...3 or 4 boot ups will be fine...then on the 5th it'll lose stability and require re-applying bios with slightly different voltages...this indicates that CPU IMC is unstable OR that the memory training lets the system down after a couple boots lol.
Basically...14900Ks limit is the IMC silicone lottery and temperatures lmao.
@@Beefy-Tech Yeah, well, in a sense, the silicone lottery and the temperatures have always been the limit, though the temperature part was never more true than with 14900K, lol.
Still, 6 GHz all core and 8000 MT/s is an achievement, though surely not all 14900K can get that, that would've been something.
Is it possible to observe each core how good it is and tune them accordingly ? Like instead of having 8 cores at 6.0 GHz, to have, say, 2 at 6.1, 4 at 6.0 and 2 at 5.9 GHz ? That might lower the power a bit, if the weaker cores are left at slower speeds and only the good cores are boosted further.
@@Winnetou17 Yes, with C states enabled, I can tell my 2 best cores are my first 2 by the fact they are being chosen as the 6.1ghz single core speeds, and by the fact they run the coldest of all the cores by a significant margin. But only 2 of the cores show that behaviour, not more, so for games like COD that tend to use 1 thread per core and around 7-10 threads total usually, it won't matter as it'll use the All Core boost speeds instead. In games like phasmophobia or csgo where 1 or 2 cores get used more than the others it'll occasionally automatically pop into 6.1ghz (meaning it's only working on 4 threads or less).
But yeah, 14900K doesn't guarantee any of these speeds. Some will be worse than this by a lot, some will be better by a lot... especially on the Memory controller side of things.
Honestly, my 7800x3d gets a lot of blue screens and very inconsistent in wz3, sometimes I get 30-60 0.1% with 4090... I really thought I should go with 14700k before that, but I didn't just because the platform is dead, but stability looks so good those 1% are amazing, literally not moving down on Intel
Thanks, Because of your comment I will stop desiring to upgrade from 13600k.
funny enough i was thinking about returning my 13900k for a 7800x3D lol
@@yazannajjar1719 dont do it
7800x3d sadly requires flawless setup. Over 70% of my consult meetings are people who for the life of them can't figure out why their AMD systems aren't working well... I go in, download windows 11 23h2, apply revi OS, install latest chipset drivers, game mode on, HAGS on, balanced power plan, undervolt the CPU and do timings on ram and boom, +10-30% FPS and it's stable.
If 1 thing isn't done exactly right, nothing works well, which is why people have issues on the AMD side.
I've personally never had a CPU related stutter on warzone with my AMD rigs, they just run great, but with slightly lower 1% lows (190-200 Vs 220-230 on intel)
@@Beefy-Tech I’ve literally done everything you’ve said except apply revi os, under volt and OC the ram. I should not have to do that to get it working. What a joke lol and I def shouldn’t need to pay someone to set it up for me (if I just want plug and play and 0 issues). Sure if I am chasing 5-10% extra performance but not for just plug and play experience.
I had BSOD on my 3900x, the only cpu I had that ran flawlessly was my 5900x. I’m done with AMD. Never going with them again.
Only x3d cpu can make gpu usage to work at 100% on pubg. no intel cpu can do that , Pubg is the real cpu - ram bound game and that 3d cache is showing who is the boss
Paid by Intel 😅 just kidding great video as always and a HUGE W for showing the secrets wink wink 😁
What secrets? 😂 Tryna see if I missed something
@@FIVESTRZ u know THE SECRETS 😉
@@IamMxfia noted 😉
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Run Pubg with Dx11Enhanced and everything on low to remove gpu bottlenecking. I dont think Pubg support rebar.. Intel have traditionally had less microstutters because of way less ram lookup time. Think car driveby and loading in other players shooting creates the worst dips just when you need high fps! I'd only recommend Intel for enthusiast and high end systems. I think you get more value with the 7800X3d part. But a 350W 14900k is still the king with 7600Mhz+ ram if you build a ultra high end cooling system. Why cant someone make a oc'd 7800x3d VS 14900k 350W Pubg vid?? Some claim that AMD uses the cache well in Pubg now, I'd be interested to see the difference in 0.1% lows in drivebys. If this is true thats great news since an X3d is way cheaper since you can skip the 200-300usd watercooler.
1% low you have 10fps high vs ddr4 4100mhz cl15
why are you using 1.47v for 5.8 GHZ lmao
That's because I used the same voltages I had at 6.0ghz for 5.8ghz for the purposes of the video as extremely clearly explained during the bios section.
Ontop of that, 1.47v is for VRM Voltage, 1.41 is for the CORE voltage.
true! i have amd and its the badest choice of my life i put 400 more vbuck for stablity ( dont reply i dont care its for help )
My man where is counter strike
This is 100% true. If you spend the time to fully tweak and OC your Intel CPU it will outdo a 7800x3D.
But out of the box for most users.... I feel like the x3D is the way to go
why pubg have microstutters help!!!!&
Yo dont post the secret of framecahser he wont be able to charge 1000 for a bundle 😂😂😂
sad when i paid u for oc u did such a sloppy job. didnt even change cache ratio, didnt enable round trip latency u didnt even oc the the ram primary timings man. people with same specs as me be getting 405 ave, 340 5% and 320 1% . Im getting 260 1%
lll fix it for free. If I was off my game I will own up to it and provide the propper stuff, toss me a message.
That ram frequency doesn't make sense by itself, it's useless without touching subtimings and turnaround timings. So it's not 14900K max power in that video. 14900K can do even better than here without 8000+, you'd already be getting better fps with fully tightened 7600-7800mhz.
Primaries and secondaries are most important. Tertiary timings while I'd love to have done, take forever and usually yield tiny differences over just primary and secondary timings.
While I do intend to manually do the Tertiary timings too, I'm not even done with the primaries and secondaries, so still some work to do. The current Aida 64 latency is at 49.8ns, which can still be brought down to 44-45NS with a maxed out system...but chances are that'll only render 5-10 more FPS.
Not to mention I didn't intend to run the 14900K at max spec, as then I'd have used it at 6.0ghz, but at 6.0ghz most people can't cool it properly.
A absolute max spec can really only be achieved with direct die cooling and a custom loop, which I've seen some do and get great results.
Hey beefy, how is your aida that low with no tightened timings? Does hyperthreading off lower the memory latency? I was only getting around 56 with 8000 and similar timings with hyperthreading and ecores on
@@Beefy-Tech core frequency is the wrong focus. That's not the way chips should be used, it's useless heat output for pretty numbers. Again, as you already know, subtimings are the key. A properly maxed out cpu is going to run the fastest ram and realistic core voltages to ensure somewhat of an efficient overclock. And tertiary timings do make a big difference coupled with seconday ones, they have to be tightened together as some of them directly affect each other. 5-10 fps in Warzone is basically 2-5% increase, which is a bit too low. I believe much more is possible. Even more so with tuned ring, maybe disabled e-cores.
@@jamesnuzzi923 The timings ARE tightened, just not maxed. Aida 64 is affected by CPU latency too... And my single core CPU frequency is at 6.1ghz, which massively helps the Aida64 latency.
@@HeartOfAdelI fully plan to max out everything, but I am currently having trouble with boot on boot stability that I am trying to solve...the ram will be stable for 3 boots or so, then out of nowhere the stability leaves the chat, and I have to re-apply bios and redo some timings and voltages...I'm worried the IMC is not stable and it only shows after a lot of testing, or that the memory training isn't consistent...as when I drop it to 7800mhz after it begins being unstable it also stabilizes.
Until I fix this boot on boot stability issue, I can't proceed with further overclocking either way lol
lol. no. thanks you Intel... 212 watt in game...
No thank you AMDip crap😂😂😂😂
INTEL EWWW! RYZEN 3DX no 1
I currently have a 14700k and it draws a lot of power during gaming. I had to power limit it to 80 watts to be somewhat efficient. Thinking about returning the platform and going AMD
Dont, ryzen is wacky
Don't return, just undervolt and optimize.
@@HeartOfAdel I tried and it didn't help. I still had to power limit and loose performance because otherwise it would consume 140 watts while gaming
@@BonusCrook can you explain more?
@@LL-lu6hr if you can't cool 140w, there's a serious problem with cooling.