Spinnifuchs Can't play?! What? Rob is a Brilliant player. A hell of a lot better then so called "session" players ive worked with.. He knows his playing and theory inside out. And the captian.. if his sweet blues chops don't Get you in the blues mood, I dont know what will!!
The second you touch a string to a fret the pressure of your finger affects intonation - micro tonally perfect intonation is impossible on fretted instruments. Invent a problem, create a solution... = profit...
Yeah he was saying that it was strange to switch back and forth between the compensated and traditional style frets and he preferred the compensated so that's what he was going with
While I absolutely love these videos and have learned a little (and I've been on a Chappers video binge the last week or so...) what I absolutely love about them is the fact that you 2 are British! We need more Brits like you teaching us stuff! (Go Brian Cox)
Loved the TV yellow back story. Working with video cameras, I'm well aware of the "white is bright, light is right" rule, but never knew about the yellow history.
Whilst we are on the intonation topic, stevie vai actually does have a "wiggily" fretter custom jem that he has used in the studio and at clinics before.
I bought one of these around the same time this vid was published. I'm pretty happy with it. Of course you've got to expect less "Gibson depth of tone" with these thinner bodied gits, but I like the extra spank and vibe. Worth the (discounted) price of admission IMHO.
they've taken the Les Paul Junior and made an entire series out of it, with different tiers. they're almost the new Les Paul Studio. the LPJ is the evolution of it.
Looks like they finally pulled their head out of their arses in Nashville and actually started making PROPER guitars again best gibson i've heard in a while
I have a 2013 Explorer Melody maker, American made. For $399.00 Canadian it was/is a helluva great deal. Very loud acoustically, thanks to the plain painted finish. Interestingly, the body, neck and fretboard are "baked maple", not the usual mahogany. Nice bright tone and a single Duncan style 'bucker with one volume control. Headstock veneer is of black plastic.
Whilst I'd like to have a go with the wiggly frets I wouldn't go out of my way to buy a neck like that unless it was undoubtedly better than a traditionally fretted neck. As I said before, Steve Vai uses one sometimes but that doesn't mean every guitarist will like it. The only question that's important is whether it's an all round better solution than regular frets....clearly it isn't considered so at the moment or I imagine many more guitar companies would be using them. The other thing for me is what happens when you want to change string guage? It's always been my understanding that if you change gauge then you need to intonate the guitar again.....surely the wiggly frets add complication to that? Also wouldn't an intonated or compensated wrap around tailpiece as in the case of the Gibson make it impossible to intonate to a different string gauge other than the guitar was initially designed with in mind?
T.V. Yellow was originally called "Limed Mahogony" To call these "Melody Makers" is flat wrong, because they do not have anything to do with the REAL Melody Makers... these are more like a "Les Paul Special"
my 2014 melody maker falls off the strap all the time, and my epi with the small strap button never falls off. I'm starting to think those big strap buttons don't do shit
Guitars with weird frets are made by Vgs, i have a poster which is hanging on my wall because it looks cool, Guitar is fitness with Emg singles curved frets and evertune so yeah
Looking forward to the Les Paul Junior, Les Paul Classis and the Les Paul Traditional videos. Though I think that the classic is a little too expensive, you might as well save up a little more for the Traditional!
I saw a video about those wiggly frets and a few famous people use them including Steve Vai.....I'd be interested in trying them...if they make notes more accurately in tune then why not? Who knows, maybe 10 years from now those true temperament frets might be the standard...
Is the Captain playing a PRS 245 SE Soapbar with a Gibson headstock? The price, the look and the gift bag included make it seem like those two guitars will be challenging each other in the market place.
The micro-tuning discrepancies allow for players with good ears to micro-adjust their technique-a la finger pressure and position- as they play, compensating for small tuning slips after heavy bends and so-forth-all good string players do this-wiggly frets not needed.
The "wiggly frets" are True Temperament frets, which have been used by Vai on one of his many Ibanez guitars and Ruokangas used them on a few guitars as well. :) Nice video guys, although I don't like what they're doing with the Melody Maker name. Some one who doesn't know the history of the Melody Maker never gets that it was originally a one pickup slab body Les Paul, even without the classic Gibson headstock. Exactly what they did until a few years back, when they had to fiddle with it. It's better now than the whole MM-line with the SG, V and Explorer included, but I'd love to have Gibson just do an original style Melody Maker as it was back then. Gloss finish and all.
I knew this could happen. The 2013 LPJ and SGJ has been a massive success and Gibson´s next movement, an early and quick revision for 2014 means two things : the one I mentioned. And second, I guess the qualities of the new J series have been downgrade intentionally. I´ve been seen on several webshops how the 2013 versions are running out of stock so fast, that I made my move on buying a rubbed vintage burst before the stock going down. I´ve been lucky. Can´t wait to see the review of the LPJs for 2014. Mine ( the 2013 ) will arrive at home on friday. I´m so nervous. My first Gibson guitar. I´m dreaming with this since I was 14 years old... ^_^
Frank Gambale's signature Yamaha had wiggly frets - it's called Fretwave, as far as I remember. And that song at the end is clearly Stone Temple Pilots - Plush intro. Cool vid though.
Nice jam at the end. Cool sounding progression, nice change over between roles - Although the Captain used different voicings. Much more refreshing than some cheesy backing track. The early bits of Captains improv sounded particularly cool:-D
@@johnbrown2378 They are sort of playing a variation of a really cool riff from Plush by Stone Temple Pilots. They play a C5 power chord on downstroke varying it sometimes including the C5 octave for upstroke part he also hit the fifth fret on the B string as yet another variation. This is that distinctive change in voicings I heard. Different to the STP song. Sounds cool doesn't it? They are playing G (with the B string fretted at the third fret), C5 (with variations), Cadd9, G (same shape as before) then a vamp on the last G chord as a turn around. As a variation sometimes they play a little run as the turn around. The little run is just B, C and C# notes on the A string
I bought an epiphone les paul traditional PRO at guitar center for 400, and then went back a month later for a pack of strings AND THERE WAS A GIBSON LPJ FOR 399, not to mention my indecisiveness lead me to miss out on an epiphone ultra II for 399
Great review, als always. Which guitar would you recommend as an allround-guitar? The melody maker or the lpj? I sorta like both, but only have money for one ;-)
How well do these fare against chapman's ml2?? I'm looking into buying a LP body guitar (just in love with the shape) and it seems there's only 3 options, chapman vs gibson vs ltd.
Hello Andertonians! I'm sure you must have had this question asked many times, but I speak for my fellow lefty brothers: is this guitar avilable in its mirror version for us? Thank you guys, my best wishes to the both of you :)
Unless it has changed all Gibson 6 string electric guitars are setup to take 10s however a change to a 9 or 11 shouldn't cause many if any issues with this tailpiece.
Rob Chapman I'm thinking about purchasing my brother's Carvin MTS3200 head with matching 4x12 cab w/v30s for about $600 I have played through it so I know for a fact it works. Is this a good deal? Would really appreciate a response but since I know you're a very busy man I completely understand if I don't get one.
Hi, guys. I came across to this channel & I'm loving it. You 2 make killer reviews, love to watch them as I am new in the guitar world but I have always been an extreem music fan, can't live without it. Maybe it has nothing to do with this video but I would love to see a full comparison between an Epiphone BB King Lucille versus a Fender Standard Stratocaster or a Telecaster. So I'm talking about a 4 to 600 pounds of price range to begin with.. I know that there are cheaper guitars around there but we can't forget about the eargasms, right? :)) My goal is to play it nice & funky & I also LOVE blues. Is it also possible to loop a bassline in the background with the Lucille so I can jam through it with a leading crispy tone all together or do you recommend the Fender for this kind of use. Actually my heart is more settled with the Lucille, just out of respect for the name & story behind Lucille and ofcourse the design. I hope you guys get back to me to help for making my decision between these 2.
Rob Chapman : Could you please share what chords you're playing at the end? Sounds like a G - something C# and G in it followed by C - can't quite figure out the 2nd Chord (the C# is most prominent in that). Also where is it from, it sounds very very familiar. Many Thanks.
I do like this show, it's like Top Gear for guitarists.
That's true. The guys at Top Gear are funny but can't drive. Rob and Lee are funny but can't play.
Spinnifuchs Lol, but imo the Top Gear dudes can drive okay and Chappers + co. can play pretty damn good.
Spinnifuchs Can't play?! What? Rob is a Brilliant player. A hell of a lot better then so called "session" players ive worked with.. He knows his playing and theory inside out.
And the captian.. if his sweet blues chops don't Get you in the blues mood, I dont know what will!!
It's like QVC now
This guitar is a bit of a hidden gem - this 2014 2014 punches way above its weight.
I love melody makers. They have a certain bite to the tone.
The second you touch a string to a fret the pressure of your finger affects intonation - micro tonally perfect intonation is impossible on fretted instruments.
Invent a problem, create a solution... = profit...
Depends how hard you fret. Its pretty insignificant if you have a light touch and fret close to the fret wire.
How about Buzz Feiten? I only heard about it, is it useful?
I will say Steve Vai does use a few of his guitar's with those wiggly frets. I still say I like old fashioned intonation.
Farin Felsenheimer Thats what we are talking about.
Yes, but normal frets has its limits. With True Temperament you can come much closer.
That Melody Maker sounds nice! I didn't expect that.
I do wish that Epiphone and Gibson put out more P90 instruments.
This is probably the next guitar i'm getting.
The funny thing is that vai has a jem with a compensated neck :P
Damn you beat me to it, was just going to say the same thing. I've seen the Jem with the compensated frets in person.
Michael Fenton Yeah, didn't Vai say that he was in the process of having that done to all of his axes?
Yeah he was saying that it was strange to switch back and forth between the compensated and traditional style frets and he preferred the compensated so that's what he was going with
Compensated as in scalloped?
Sco no as in the frets are not straight.
2:25 Very intimate moment you and the Cap shared there, Chappers. lol
While I absolutely love these videos and have learned a little (and I've been on a Chappers video binge the last week or so...) what I absolutely love about them is the fact that you 2 are British! We need more Brits like you teaching us stuff! (Go Brian Cox)
Oh also, Merry Christmas to the both of you.
Nice sounding guitars. Thanks gents!
The sound of the slash signature head that chapters was using sounds amazing !!!
The jam song reminded me of Stone Temple Pilots' Plush...
I was thinking that too
Loved the TV yellow back story. Working with video cameras, I'm well aware of the "white is bright, light is right" rule, but never knew about the yellow history.
Love these demo videos. Looking forward to watching you guys in 2014.
i love it how rob says that perfet intonation is impossible yet in music videos i always see the guitar spot on the note, or so my tuner says
i've been waiting forever for this haha
Whilst we are on the intonation topic, stevie vai actually does have a "wiggily" fretter custom jem that he has used in the studio and at clinics before.
I bought one of these around the same time this vid was published. I'm pretty happy with it. Of course you've got to expect less "Gibson depth of tone" with these thinner bodied gits, but I like the extra spank and vibe. Worth the (discounted) price of admission IMHO.
I HATE the 120th inlay. They should have been more discrete and put it onthe back of the headstock.
I'm drooling! best regards from Portugal!
I wish they'd reintroduce the Les Paul Junior again. They've almost vanished off the face of the Earth :(
Well there is the LPJ now, which I guess is the modern equivalent.
Amen!
they've taken the Les Paul Junior and made an entire series out of it, with different tiers. they're almost the new Les Paul Studio. the LPJ is the evolution of it.
Not the best evolution. It's taken away the "Junior" aspect of it.
I`m certain the Joan Jett model is a Jr.
Can't wait to see the rest :D
Very very good budget guitars
For some reason you guys were cracking me up today. I kept bugging my wife by laughing out loud. :-P
What's the song on the end of the video (10:31) called? It sounds awesome!!
Can you please bring back the extended intro for a couple of videos, for 2014 it would be cool to shoot a new one too.
about time gibson made a slimmer les paul. always wanted them to do that, so it feels sorta like my SG's
"Tummy Cut" on the TV Yellow Melody Maker. Nice!
Looks like they finally pulled their head out of their arses in Nashville and actually started making PROPER guitars again best gibson i've heard in a while
that jam was top notch
I have a 2013 Explorer Melody maker, American made. For $399.00 Canadian it was/is a helluva great deal. Very loud acoustically, thanks to the plain painted finish. Interestingly, the body, neck and fretboard are "baked maple", not the usual mahogany. Nice bright tone and a single Duncan style 'bucker with one volume control. Headstock veneer is of black plastic.
It's nice to see a nice headstock on the melody maker eventually
Why isn't the Melody Maker called Special, as in the two-pickup version of a Junior?
My Prayer has been answered thanks
can't wait to see the review on the Gibson LP standard plus or premium
Gibson finally changed the headstock to a normal one. Congrats Gibson!
??? The "not normal" one looks better!!!!
not in my opinion
Whilst I'd like to have a go with the wiggly frets I wouldn't go out of my way to buy a neck like that unless it was undoubtedly better than a traditionally fretted neck. As I said before, Steve Vai uses one sometimes but that doesn't mean every guitarist will like it. The only question that's important is whether it's an all round better solution than regular frets....clearly it isn't considered so at the moment or I imagine many more guitar companies would be using them. The other thing for me is what happens when you want to change string guage? It's always been my understanding that if you change gauge then you need to intonate the guitar again.....surely the wiggly frets add complication to that? Also wouldn't an intonated or compensated wrap around tailpiece as in the case of the Gibson make it impossible to intonate to a different string gauge other than the guitar was initially designed with in mind?
Still I'm pretty happy with my purchase
steve vai did use wiggly frets for a bit
T.V. Yellow was originally called "Limed Mahogony"
To call these "Melody Makers" is flat wrong, because they do not have anything to do with the REAL Melody Makers... these are more like a "Les Paul Special"
i agree. melody makers originally used humbuckers. this is more like a junior. i wouldnt consider it a special though.
i always thought Melody Makers had their own thin, single coil pickups, almost like strat pickups. (???)
I'd love to have a blues jam with The Captain
my 2014 melody maker falls off the strap all the time, and my epi with the small strap button never falls off. I'm starting to think those big strap buttons don't do shit
What can be better for clean non distorted sounds, something more acoustic ,fingerpicking: this Les Paul Melody Maker or a Chapman ML3 Modern?
What is the chord at 9:07 is it like a diminished or like a sus chord or one of those weird ones
***** thanks mate
Did u figure this out?? Would be nice to know but can’t figure it out
STEVE VAI DOES USE WIGGLY FRETS
Guitars with weird frets are made by Vgs, i have a poster which is hanging on my wall because it looks cool, Guitar is fitness with Emg singles curved frets and evertune so yeah
Looking forward to the Les Paul Junior, Les Paul Classis and the Les Paul Traditional videos.
Though I think that the classic is a little too expensive, you might as well save up a little more for the Traditional!
I saw a video about those wiggly frets and a few famous people use them including Steve Vai.....I'd be interested in trying them...if they make notes more accurately in tune then why not? Who knows, maybe 10 years from now those true temperament frets might be the standard...
Steve Vai did actually (or still uses) "wiggly" frets on one of his JEMs
Is the Captain playing a PRS 245 SE Soapbar with a Gibson headstock? The price, the look and the gift bag included make it seem like those two guitars will be challenging each other in the market place.
What is that chord at 9:08?
Teodor Mrdenovic I was looking in comments for this answer!! I’m trying to figure it out now
The micro-tuning discrepancies allow for players with good ears to micro-adjust their technique-a la finger pressure and position- as they play, compensating for small tuning slips after heavy bends and so-forth-all good string players do this-wiggly frets not needed.
shall we tune the guitar before shooting the video?
Loving the melody maker! Not a fan of that 12th fret inlay though.
You guys should do a review on the Ibanez Egen18 (Herman Li's signature). It is probably one of the BEST guitars you could EVER buy...
The "wiggly frets" are True Temperament frets, which have been used by Vai on one of his many Ibanez guitars and Ruokangas used them on a few guitars as well. :)
Nice video guys, although I don't like what they're doing with the Melody Maker name. Some one who doesn't know the history of the Melody Maker never gets that it was originally a one pickup slab body Les Paul, even without the classic Gibson headstock. Exactly what they did until a few years back, when they had to fiddle with it. It's better now than the whole MM-line with the SG, V and Explorer included, but I'd love to have Gibson just do an original style Melody Maker as it was back then. Gloss finish and all.
Guess they don´t know shit...
/irony
Give us some of that Captain Crunch!
Is the Lpj worth buying in your opinions
Thanx for this! But dude, I KNOW you recorded all of them allready, because you always do, so what is keeping part 2!?!
I dont say this a lot but this video was really good.
That looks so damn awesome
I knew this could happen. The 2013 LPJ and SGJ has been a massive success and Gibson´s next movement, an early and quick revision for 2014 means two things : the one I mentioned. And second, I guess the qualities of the new J series have been downgrade intentionally. I´ve been seen on several webshops how the 2013 versions are running out of stock so fast, that I made my move on buying a rubbed vintage burst before the stock going down. I´ve been lucky. Can´t wait to see the review of the LPJs for 2014. Mine ( the 2013 ) will arrive at home on friday. I´m so nervous. My first Gibson guitar. I´m dreaming with this since I was 14 years old... ^_^
i don't know why but i'm just in love with sound of p-90s
Frank Gambale's signature Yamaha had wiggly frets - it's called Fretwave, as far as I remember. And that song at the end is clearly Stone Temple Pilots - Plush intro. Cool vid though.
Nice jam at the end. Cool sounding progression, nice change over between roles - Although the Captain used different voicings. Much more refreshing than some cheesy backing track. The early bits of Captains improv sounded particularly cool:-D
hydorah what is the second chord?? I cannot figure it out
@@johnbrown2378 They are sort of playing a variation of a really cool riff from Plush by Stone Temple Pilots. They play a C5 power chord on downstroke varying it sometimes including the C5 octave for upstroke part he also hit the fifth fret on the B string as yet another variation. This is that distinctive change in voicings I heard. Different to the STP song. Sounds cool doesn't it?
They are playing G (with the B string fretted at the third fret), C5 (with variations), Cadd9, G (same shape as before) then a vamp on the last G chord as a turn around. As a variation sometimes they play a little run as the turn around. The little run is just B, C and C# notes on the A string
hydorah thank you!!
VGS did guitars with wiggly frets... And they do not suck. Cool of you to play STP, though.
Steve Vai does in fact have a guitar neck with the squiggly frets.
I love the Gibsons!
sorry guys i dont wanna sound nooby but what song of chappers is the outro song. i wanna learn to play it :D and happy new years from australia
I bought an epiphone les paul traditional PRO at guitar center for 400, and then went back a month later for a pack of strings AND THERE WAS A GIBSON LPJ FOR 399, not to mention my indecisiveness lead me to miss out on an epiphone ultra II for 399
Any plans on the 2014 firebird video?
It Sounds lovely
Im buying the new studio for sure ! its awesome !!
looking forward to great Gibson reviews BUT:
You forgot to mark it out of ten?! Love that ;-)
Mattias Eklundh uses wiggly frets ;)
When Part 2 come out?
i'm digging the dreads brother
Are you going to be reviewing the 2014 Les Paul Futura as well?
Great review, als always.
Which guitar would you recommend as an allround-guitar? The melody maker or the lpj?
I sorta like both, but only have money for one ;-)
Hi there, how does the Melody Maker behave with a strap? Is it neck heavy?
these guys are cool i am a fan
How well do these fare against chapman's ml2?? I'm looking into buying a LP body guitar (just in love with the shape) and it seems there's only 3 options, chapman vs gibson vs ltd.
Hello Andertonians!
I'm sure you must have had this question asked many times, but I speak for my fellow lefty brothers: is this guitar avilable in its mirror version for us?
Thank you guys, my best wishes to the both of you :)
kind of a random question,...but its posible to put soapbar P90s on a dogear style P90s guitar?
What string gauge is that tailpiece designed for?
Unless it has changed all Gibson 6 string electric guitars are setup to take 10s however a change to a 9 or 11 shouldn't cause many if any issues with this tailpiece.
The winding on those pickups... OVER 9000!!!!
I want one!
Rob Chapman I'm thinking about purchasing my brother's Carvin MTS3200 head with matching 4x12 cab w/v30s for about $600 I have played through it so I know for a fact it works. Is this a good deal? Would really appreciate a response but since I know you're a very busy man I completely understand if I don't get one.
Hi, guys. I came across to this channel & I'm loving it. You 2 make killer reviews, love to watch them as I am new in the guitar world but I have always been an extreem music fan, can't live without it.
Maybe it has nothing to do with this video but I would love to see a full comparison between an Epiphone BB King Lucille versus a Fender Standard Stratocaster or a Telecaster. So I'm talking about a 4 to 600 pounds of price range to begin with.. I know that there are cheaper guitars around there but we can't forget about the eargasms, right? :))
My goal is to play it nice & funky & I also LOVE blues. Is it also possible to loop a bassline in the background with the Lucille so I can jam through it with a leading crispy tone all together or do you recommend the Fender for this kind of use.
Actually my heart is more settled with the Lucille, just out of respect for the name & story behind Lucille and ofcourse the design.
I hope you guys get back to me to help for making my decision between these 2.
Rob Chapman : Could you please share what chords you're playing at the end?
Sounds like a G - something C# and G in it followed by C - can't quite figure out the 2nd Chord (the C# is most prominent in that). Also where is it from, it sounds very very familiar.
Many Thanks.
Nikhil Shahane I have been trying to figure this chord out as well ☹️any other ideas??
My wife, not a player picked up mine and dropped it because the strap came off LOL. I freakin love the melody maker.
Wait are u guys doing a review on the 2014 Firebird ?!?!?
look is cool!!
sound also!!!
not extremely expensive !!!
just great
i will buy it
Like the '61 pickups in the LPJ
woah am I imagining things or did the captain just drop two radiohead references in there. Nice.
is there also a melody maker with a double cutaway? like the ones from the 60's?
I'd like to see those if they do make them. This one seemed a little too close to a Les Paul.
Nice job to the Captain sneaking in a couple Radiohead references.
can you do a clip on setting intonation @ action bro.....
Favorite words of Capt: "This particular one..." hahaha
PLEASE DO THE SGs AS WELL!!!!