Customer does half the job for me! - Electrician
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You worry too much mate, great channel, great content, great business, great family and all fully deserved as you have put the effort in. Don't let the green eyes bring you down, and don't give them the oxygen they crave in their sad little world by responding to or even acknowledging their comments. Your doing good stuff mate and long may it continue 👍👍
I was fitting out two large industrial units next door to a CEF, the manager came round to ask if I want to open an account, as it looked bad other wholesalers delivering a few times a day next to CEF, I said no as there prices are stupidly high!
CEF is a last resort for me, even if I was next door To to them I’d use someone else first!!
They only give you a good deal if they feel like it
Yes sure here's the picklist and competitors bid, don't come back unless you are 5% under
Looks like the customer was quite capable and competent to do the job himself but probably needed a certificate!
The problem is if you get caught you will be prosecuted. That's why this whole electrician certification industry exists. If the rules were less strict, electricians would've made a lot less and thus homeowners would be more cautious. That's the paradox of regulation. You introduce it to make things safer, but the overhead cost incentivizes to make things less safe and it balances out.
Hope your doing ok nick. You look abit stressed. Ignore the keyboard warrior's out there. You guys do a great job and I doubt very much that these people that slag you guys of would dare put there stuff on RUclips out of fear that they are rubbish . It takes guts to do what you guys do. Keep it up mate
i'd be stressed too at £38 when your busy customers are putting pressure on you and you have to keep promises you don't have time to look at single invoices.
Went into CEF for an earthing nut. Showing in stock at this store on website.
Wait 20 minutes. "Sorry "In Stock in store" means we can get it tomorrow"
Ok - can I get some nuts, bolts, washers, I'll need to do it old way, needs finishing today.
Wait 15 minutes. That will be £46 !!!! (10 of each).
Manager wheeled out to argue with computer for 10 minutes. Finally £8
Not exactly screaming "come back" is it....!
I thought the paint on fusebox's was none conductive, and this was the reason we use the earth tags on SWA.
Love your bashing of CEF 😂😂 I hit the like just because of that! Customer watching your apprentice since he was 12 🤦♂️ too good 👍 keep up the awesome videos
Just got my board from expert and your code saved me over £20 thanks
Fantastic finish to the board Nick. Top notch.
the company i used to work for stopped using CEF due to the price too.
Brilliant job mate bet the customer was pleased...
40 years ago when I was contracting CEF had a bad rep then and it seems things have not improved, I seem to remember something about their staff working on commission if true that would go some way to explain their prices and attitude, but one thing for sure I remember well that you have to keep an eye on who ever you use as they tend to rely on you becoming lazy where checking your invoices are concerned so it pays to shop around.
Totally agree about CEF. They done exactly the same with us. Used to say you bought 1000 screw for say when you bought 100. I think they get away with it with big firms so just try their luck
I tend to use Screwfix mostly due to the fact the wholesalers i used to use are now expensive . When i do sometimes use a wholesaler I always check my invoices as they are often incorrect.
Lap specials lol
Nice job Nick, I have had the same problem with CEF, also YES Electrical are the flip side of the same coin. Although they will tell you not ..
CEF are abysmal and have the gall to charge you through the nose for that privilege.
Closed my account years ago.
Spot on lads love to see a pro at work
Had exactly the same with CEF.
I had bought some uncommon items from them as a DIY customer years ago at what seemed a reasonable price.
But back when I was starting out as a proper spark I had to get some accessories from them to match an existing installation and they wanted to charge more than double for what's basically own brand than I could have got MK or Crabtree for.
Even showing my NAPIT registration card didn't get them to budge on price.
Spoke to customer, changed all accessories to MK in those two rooms and job still cheaper.
The last pisstake was £5+vat for a 1 gang back box for their brand of dado trunking.
I use Eyre & Elliston as my primary, they've been spot on with me from day one.
Banjo in the CU? Why?
Earthing Nuts are the future. More than pay for themselves not having to faff about drilling extra holes.
Rest in peace Nick, your videos were inspirational. Also, don't forget to hydrate, we don't see you do that on video!
Hi mate I've had very similar problems with cef in the past stupidly expensive coats on random items.. Avoid like the plague lol.
Thanks Steve
Really neat job guys. Regarding a KMF switch, you see new builds all the time with tails over 3M. I think David Savery needs to do a video regarding this
Some wholesalers like CEF/Travis are setup for the mega contracts from big goventment and social repair companys. They get the big discounts. And the price before discount has to look big so theire customers feel the scam price they charge for the jobs are fair. If you haven't got 20,000 staff your lucky to get 1% discount. I've been using TLC and Plumbase for years. If you know a manager or two you can get a deal for your own house, but for a job, they can't really help you out because of reasons from above. When the first lockdown happened a travis helped me out with a big juicy discount as I thought well if I am stuck at home, I might as well finish doing it up. Travis used to own wickes and you know how much cheaper that is.
The electrician I've used many times has always been happy for me to do what he calls the blue jobs leaving him to turn up and do the pink jobs. Saved me a lot of money.
Brilliant work and thanks for sharing this with us take care
Really neat job good idea with trunking
Well done nick great work as always u and u mate very good workmanship
So tidy brilliant 👏, I am a maintenance engineer here in Northern Ireland and CEF are rip off merchants, seriously big difference in prices.
Also would like to say you treat your apprentice Adam very well great to see you training him so well with respect. John
Spark from NI aswell wouldn't go near CEF wayy to expensive
Great job as always the only thing I would be careful of is although you’ve spaced the board away from the alarm panel it’s not quite enough those panels hinge upwards and need loads of space I know from past experience keep up the good work
SMashing through your old videos, absolutely love the content and the approach to the work. Adam is a leg and I really appreciate how much love Maryland's get here. What we saying about the double choc though?
Very good neat work. Well done
Heya Nick and Ad! One thought regarding that strip light in garage - I think you've got one of those portable battery banks with 230V outlet? Wire a temporary lead from that to light feed. The battery bank isn't earthed so its floating safety wise. Awesome video and great work as per usual guys!
Great vid and what looks like an ideal customer. First for me this year, tea and toast from customer 😎
Can't beat the call from the better half, when you forget something. Bottle of wine / chocs / flowers and dad and kid day for the little one to make up for it 👍
Good work lads, as always. As Jrc would say verrryyyyy niiiiiiicccceeee.
Great board Nick,Trunking looks bang-on,super job.
Beautiful installation lads. Don't mind the haters.
Belting transformation 🙌🏻
Great job, just asking, why put the main switch on the right?(your tails wouldn't of had to cross the other circuits).In NZ I put the main switch us on the left, you read left to right.
Instead of using the grinder for the slotting of the board, try using a jigsaw mate. The bosch 12v is brilliant for it, Still on my first blade and I've cut out about 30 boards with it up to yet (doing 2 - 3 a day) Leaves a nice clean edge too with no burrs.
very nice work, massive improvement and very neat. love to see some trunking in domestic.
Please could someone satisfy my curiosity?
Where is the 3m limit on tails measured from?
1) the isolator (fitted and sealed by the DNO)
2) the meter or
3) the main fuse?
Nick. Where did you measure your 2.7m from?
Lovely neat piece of work by the way!
Refuse to use CEF, I’ve cancelled jobs before because could only get materials from S***ty Electrical Factors!
I believe all the staff are on incentives to up sell and make bigger margins so I see you without an account and slap it on!!
TLC or Grant & Stone if I have to go to a wholesalers but I do love BUNDY10 for my Fusebox materials or mastertrade (as they always have stock)
Last time I was in cef didn't check the parts ordered got to the job the person serving didn't have a clue .
Looks so good. A trade I'd love to learn
I agree your comments about CEF, but sadly it is good practice to price check everything you purchase and check all invoices - unfortunately there is just enough time in a normal day to do that every time.
Top job as usual Nick and Adam just let the comments ride over you it’s so easy for people to comment would be interesting to see how many would show there work for the cyber world to comment on. If I ever hang my tools up I would not hesitate to ask you to do a job for me professional and quality ever time. 👍
Video Liked at 4:50 ARTISAN FUEL 😂😂😂🙈🙈
I don't get the you can't take the cover off live. I do industrial and we open cabinets and there exactly the same as opening up a dB.
I have an account with CEF never had a discount yet' walk ins get the same price,only used for dire emergencies
Another great job done 👍🇮🇪
Ha ha ha Nick said a few little puffs in the corners 🤣😂🤣😂 I’m such a child
Nice job dude
Of course you can slot boards. What does he think you do with a 16way tp&n board.
I also avoid (CEF) to aka common extortion facility and not even a bottle of lub next to the sanitizer
Hi Nick. If you don’t mind me asking, which wholesaler do you use in Stafford as have a need for some 4x2 trunking for a project.
I love the Timelapse music, had to download it on my phone lol 😂
Great video yet again, and she will bring this “ you said you would be back in time🤭” up for years to come….they always remember the mistakes 😉🤷🏻♂️
Adam running around. Turns to Adam on his phone 😂😂😂
Yeah a hardware store that I had an account with was selling items to others but charging me. Got a password placed onto my account, was good for a month then the same thing started happening. After 2 years of fighting them they took me to court for non payement and I got the court to close the account and only had to pay the couple of things I had invoices for and used the "I cannot afford this" card and got to pay them off at $10 per fortnight.
Yes I could have paid it out in full but for them to harbour a staff member that gave my details out and allowed others to use my account I got petty. Out of the 1500 owing I only had to pay about 200 of it and they were not happy about it.
Have never dealt with them in the last 10+ years even though they are the cheapest.
Nice work
CEF in Cardiff South Wales have been fairly priced so far, I’m a new startup spark and have had only good from them but time will tell!
Try Rage in Caerphilly. Top blokes and will get you anything you need
CEF are great until they think you aren’t looking and then prices go mental like £13 for a pot of filler £7 for a click double socket etc etc, my accounts are in bristol but I live in Newport I’ll give that rage a ring and start an account the small wholesalers seem to cater better to the spark .
Awesome Video
Doesn’t matter what you do mate, you tube is full of armchair experts, that’s a neat looking board with the trunking etc
We must be really lucky where we are our CEF cardigan is pretty good. Couple of mistakes but overall really good.
LOL, you guys need to find more places with already missing seals. The isolators get fitted for 1/4 the price! *hides pile of seals*
He’s in a mood 🤣
Don’t worry I got charged £60 for 15 brass pins and then £0.17p for 100 brass washers from CEF absolutely clueless
What were you doing in leeds nick ? Tidy job like always guys 👍
Nick, I didn't get what you said about why you was able to use meter tails longer than 3 metres in length , It sounded like you said a k something ????
Can't defend CEF for your experience , but hopefully at least it will hopefully discourage DIYers. Probably not their primary reason. Found our branch to be great.
I'll use CEF, but never as a walk-in and ask blindly anymore. I check online for price and stock in store now before going anywhere, too many times overpaying for stuff. I remember one time I was just after some 4mm nuts and bolts and when they told me price I just laughed at them, wish I remembered what it was!
are them hole saws the starrett ones?
Very nice job Nick and plenty of room for future proofing. On the subject of mains supply to fuseboards, JRC Electrical used something called Splitcon cable in his 22 March video which I have not seen before. Any opinions on that Nick or have you not considered its use?
I thought split concentric was more of a DNO supply cable than an installation cable.
It has been used on the supply at my house, where the system is still TN-S.
Might have a nosey at that video as I haven't seen it terminated in standard accessories, only service heads and underground joints
I will avoid CEF, thanks to all for the info in the comments. 👍👍
No idea what tails or KMS/KMF are but a tidy job
Most of the sparkies I know say that CEF = Call Edmunson First :)
Hi butty nice job . Don’t worry about the birthday party she be happy when you paying them uni fee’s 😀it will come round quicker than you think 🤣🤣🤣
Who’s butty?
Nice video and excellent workmanship Nick.
CEF are overpriced every time
It is disgusting the way trade counters often behave. I looked on CEF's site for some wire last week, £42.50 for a 100m roll. Called my local CEF and spoke to the girl I know, they had it in stock and it would be £27.00. I have no account, I am not an electrician but a self-builder and strike up relationships with trade counter staff that I am going to use for the build. But that is a heck of a jump!
I love my local CEF, cracking set of lads on the counter and as cheap as anywhere else.
I agree, my Local CEF are brilliant 9 times out of 10 they come in cheaper than Rexel, Edmundsons for the same products. Think the trick is, get to know them.
One note: just had Siemens out (via Bulb) to fit me an isolator (EV charger guys wouldn't install without one) - £120, which I didn't think was *too* insane. Oh, and as a bonus they replaced my 100A fuse with an *actual* 100A fuse (unlike the 80A one that was hiding in the 100A enclosure :-/
What is that work jacket please Nick?
Try £50.40 for 5 35mm din rail mounted terminals! They are clueless in every CEF I’ve ever been into.
My mates just asked me 'Why suddenly has everything become Delicious'?
What I don't get from Electrifix, I'll get from TLC-Direct...I really wish they'd expand their branches to the north though!
Great video Nick, can you do a testing video on the TIS pro please. Its a bit complicated to use. Thanks
Oh CEF..... expensive, and manager was bloody rude. Know people that used to work there....they were told to ramp up the prices as ' most contractors don't bother to check the prices'.
Similar to you, not used them in years.
CEF don’t get me started 😂 they think they offer you a good price when their good price is not even a fraction of a price you can buy from somewhere else... you see Screwfix and toolstaftion etc they aren’t cheap neither but they are priced for a general DIY local wholesalers are the best something you pick up for £35 in tool station will be like £15 so always good to hunt for the item unless your in a rush but start ups should compare prices... you ain’t scaling up without comparing prices
Would never use CEF on principle, I had a very similar situation buying trucking and fixings years ago, never again!
Will the wireless Rode mics work with your camera?
Yea , we’ve started using them in up coming videos mate
Super deluxe 👌🏼
Do you guys also have TT and TN-S Grid??? loool. At least 230Volts...right?
Awesome job as always. Top man. Totally Delicious ha ha. 😃👍🏼Craig.
superb board m8 ,,,them tails longer than 3metres 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣take care m8 hope the missus didnt beat you too bad lol
Brother I hope you okay and the wife didn’t Attack you. Us men know the pain of screwing up like you did. We have all done it.
Use code Bundy 10 for your discount and stay Delicious 🤤 😂
Over £20 for a bit of plastic!
CEF is a joke. There are a few places like that, where they just charge "take the mick" prices if you don't have an account. Then you get an account and some items are still expensive. Literally every trip to Lawsons or Jewsons or AT&T electrical is the same. "Do you have an account", yes, ok the price is £65 for a tonne of sand. NO it's not. It's £38 inc. "what did you pay last time". I don't really remember but I know you have done it £38 inc before". I can't find that on the system... grrrrr!! It's why I always just go to Screwfix / Toolstation / Builder Depot now. They don't summarily take the mick. How does CEF even exist? Do they serve people who put through over 10k of business, and then they get treated like kings?! I totally understand the need to give preferential prices to good customers or those in the trade, as it's less after-sales for them than the consumer market. But don't literally DOUBLE the price if you don't have an account!! Add 15 or 20% if you want to keep consumers out!
I knew CEF before most of you were born (!Yikes!) and they were just starting oult in London -- so I have a ft spot for the name... However, they have gone astray "somewhat" . A shame because they do tend to stock intems that others don't - and that can be useful...
Regardless the market will decide and I suspect if their management is asleap, then the company will disappear. As they say in my late bisuness - caveat emptor
I got a call from the account manager at Bolton CEF, Jack?? Told him he was £20 more on an RCD plus other stuff. He said I’ll email you. Never did. Crap customer service at best.
Hi Adam and Nick. Oh no! It's the end of Nick! Late to drive his daughter to a birthday party. If she doesn't do him in, his wife might. All videos may now be on Adam's channel? LOL
Delicious!
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You would get 40-50% off in cef if you had an account