Five reasons to NOT do microchurch | S2E30 | Roger Shenk
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
- SEASON 2/EPISODE 30
Five reasons to NOT do microchurch instead of "REAL church."
1:05 It takes more effort.
1:28 There's no show.
2:13 You can't get lost in the crowd.
2:18 There's no motivational speaker.
3:01 It's harder to skip.
Five reasons to NOT do microchurch instead of NO church.
4:03 It takes devotion.
4:13 It requires input.
4:41 It creates faith friendships.
5:12 It doesn't feel safe.
6:05 It will challenge you.
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I have been listening to many like you who speak of "home church" instead of the conventional church. The more I hear from people like you and others, the more I am getting convicted about what a biblical church should be today. Thank you.
@psalms_for_the_church_to_sing You're welcome, and thanks. Do you have any stirring to try it?
Exactly why we need micro churches.
I would say because that it the biblical model. That’s the way the disciples did it.
I know what you are saying is true, as I wake up late and roll over to hear your message. Then I ask God to bring me safely through surgery in the morning. I ask others to pray for me. I am so undeserving. "Lord, help me, to put you first and be solid. "
I'm honored to pray for you too.
Praying for you!
I very much enjoy the mini sermons. Thank you for listening to the Lord.
@@leonardcolquhoun3604 Thank you. I'm glad they're helpful to you.
@little pookie, I'm praying for you this morning. Contact me directly via rogershenk.com and let me know how surgery goes.
Thank you, spot on! This is what we’ve been doing in our ministry in Germany for many years.
Wonderful! Thanks.
The title had me going.
If you want to be cradle to the grave spiritually infantile and dependent on a self-proclaimed ordained pastor for your spiritual milk, micro church is not the place for you.
If you want to remain ever emotionally susceptible to feel good messages instead of growing closer to the Lord, micro church is not the place for you. If you want to go to church as a duty instead of walking in faith as the 1st century Christians did, micro church is not the place for you.
You're on a roll. :)
I can't find the link. I'm in California and I'm reaching out to you. I want this! 🙏🏻
Email me at roger@x242.net!
I like the reverse psychology 😁. Absolutely!
:)
To me these 5 reasons are actually reason TO do microchurch/house church.. All 5 points are exactly what my wife and I have grown tired of.
Ding ding ding ding! You get it! 😅
Are you currently doing it or starting to think about it?
Yes we've wanted to do something with home church or even join one for a couple years. Not so easy to find home churches
@@jakeliftsnshreds6670 Email me (roger@x242.net) if you want, and we can talk. No pressure, just connecting.
If a traditional churchis biblically sound in its teaching, it helps members to keep true to scripture. Home churches sometimes go askew on one aspect of the gospel, when they don't have some biblically very sound members. And they sometimes exclude less popular members .....and sometimes they think they really are more spiritual than other Christians .
I say these horrible things because I have SEEN them over many years.
Which means....just remain humble.
@christienodendaal3001 Agreed. A housechurch, like any church, is susceptible to immaturity and false or bad teaching. The caricature would be a "what does this passage mean to YOUUU" meeting where everyone exchanges ignorance. But my experience has been that it's usually not that. As someone who is trained and experienced, I always learn something from the questions of the untrained and inexperienced. Of course, what grounds it is the adherence to scripture. "Let the scriptures say all that they say, and don't make them say anything they don't say."
So, while housechurch is certainly susceptible to error, it's also true that too many traditional/conventional churches have bad teaching from a pastor who has positional authority to continue in bad teaching. (And many are good, of course.) But you are right, the housechurches benefit from the oversight of someone with wisdom and maturity, per the pastoral epistles. And yes, humility!
In the home church setting like the early church did everyone was edified. Trying to remember a sermon verses a group of people studying and understanding the scriptures? It wasn’t until the mid third century that denominational congregations began. It was a wrong model and born again Christianity became weak and slow in growth. Home church is far better for spiritual growth.
Thanks for the comment. I agree with you, home church is great for spiritual growth. I personally try not to call church models right and wrong. I think tiny church is best for most things, but if a multitude wants to gather around a good teacher, or assemble to sing their prayers en masse, that's not wrong. In fact, it's good. But simpler church is better. :)
I'm from Ontario Canada. Do you know of any micro churches here? I've come to the end of my rope!
I don't, but shoot me an email and I'll see if I can help. Roger@x242.net
A micro church can also have issues. Like legalism and cliques.
@henryrogers5500 absolutely! It's not the perfect way or the only right way, but it is a good way and shines in some aspects where conventional models struggle.
So this was sarcasm…. Very funny…. You just listed 5 reasons to not go to “real” church and long for micro church…. Got it….
the idea, of going to a prepared service seems to be counter productive....there is little learning, here.....and often times comes across as a feel good, promotional message....
It certainly can be ineffective. I mean, I still believe there are good conventional churches. But in so many, all the energy goes into the presentational aspects of it. And that falls short. It feels plastic. There are times to have an event where you put on a show. But I think it's so much better when it's conversational rather than presentational. And, to be fair, some housechurches slip into presentational as well. But wherever and whatever the gathering looks like, I think opening scripture in a conversational way is the best!
Roger, We met when you did my dad´s Funeral in Sarasota. My friend believe that Microchurch is unbiblical.
I look forward to talking soon...
@@simplerfaith how'd that talk go?
@@jakesauce9473 It was good. We found agreement very quickly after a few clarifications. :)
That is absurd! The first century church was a conglomeration of micro churches! They met in homes and under trees, etc. The early Christians would be horrified to see what we call”church” today! I am horrified!
How can I find a good house church?
Well let's see if I can help. If you don't mind, go to x242.net/nextstep and fill out that form. Then I'll follow up with you.