Thats where im at with it all the time man, couldn't have said it better myself. Im just starting my youtube channel and im not in love with the image im getting from my 24-70 gmaster and been entertaining getting a 24mm 1.4 because i really want a sharp wide prime. I even tested out the 12-24 the other day in the store with my camera and the test footage is effin bananas!! Like i was mind blown. Anyways the struggle continues lol
I think the only logical sense from this trade is, you've got a much more expensive lens for a lot less. Other than that ...the rest of ur reasons don't make sense cos a prime has its place and a zoom lens has its place too. When shooting with a prime...ur mind shouldn't be even considering shots at other focal lengths. Also the decision to put on a prime lens on ur body in the first place is based on what you are about to shoot. If u r gonna be shooting a scene where u are the only photographer and the client is expecting a variety of photos, then u either have 2 bodies with primes on them or a single body with a zoom that covers the focal ranges of both the primes or have 2 photographers. So yea ...I think you need both..the prime and the zoom and use them as per requirement of the job. I think u know this and that the only real reason you went ahead with the deal is cos u were getting the better end of itl. With the money saved from the exchange, you are going to buy the 24mm 1.4 back in some time. Haha..only time will tell!
When I first started doing weddings years ago, I used a 24-70 because that's what was taught to do. Years later when I switched to Sony, I traded my zooms for f/1.4 primes and two dual cameras. That kinda worked for a while, but then I got the Sigma 24-70 and used that for my weddings, and it's been such a relief! I forgot that I could cover 80% of the wedding day with just one camera and lens, and just switch to a 14-24 or 70-200 for the little bit of time that I would need them. The other advantage was that with that particular lens, the minimum autofocus distance is INSANELY close..like to the tip of the lens hood close, which makes it perfect for detail and pseudo-macro shots! Some say that primes are sharper than zooms, but that's relative. Some say that the bokeh is better on primes, but that's also relative, and dependent on personal preference. Sure, you'll get 2-stops of light difference for less noise, but the Sony files give lots of room for adjusting and noise reduction in editing. Regardless, it is always good to use the gear that works for YOU!
Thank you for this comment. I currently own 2 prime lenses from the sigma trio for my APS-C and I will upgrade to a full frame in the future. I shoot families on occasion but I mainly use my camera for making contents, as that’s how I am learning. Even in a controlled environment like mine, I already find changing lenses to be a hassle especially when I use a gimbal. I can imagine that being more so for you on your wedding shoots. I am definitely considering the 24-70. Cheers.
To me, 24mm has never been wide enough and 70mm never long enough. 24-70 is no doubt a range that I can do without. 16-35, 70-200 coupled with some primes was the way to go for me. Surely, this has been the case for me and my style of photography and might not be the best for many people out there.
@@Altai22 how and why would a "pro" need to carry 6 or 7 cameras with mounted lenses on? As if more is better and someone likes to carry like 20 kg of gear.2-3 lenses for event photography maybe if you need the low-light capability of a 1.4 prime or something.New modern zoom lenses are incredibly sharp and i´d say if you compare a excellent zoom with a mediocre prime with high aperture - i´d take the zoom. It all depends on ur needs and what genre you are specialised in. Landscape photographs mostly carry 2-3 lenses i´d say because if you travel and hike around areas - every pound you can save starts to count and you have the time to change lenses and arent in need of multiple bodies.
I'd suggest check the tamron out. IQ is incredible for the size and price. I would either pick the tamron on a budget or the gm for the absolute best. I've seen quite a few reviews comparing the tamron to the gm and I really couldn't tell a difference. I've had the tamron for more than a year now and it's my favourite
@Whatever Keeps You Calm true it also depends on what you do. I tend to shoot on gimbal and 28-70 is my most used. My arms are probably weak to constantly handle the sigma on a gimbal
You’re not crazy. I bought a Sigma 24-70 when I bought my A7C and it’s literally the only lens I own and I use it for everything! However now that I have the A7IV I wish I had Sony G master so I could have better active stabilization on top of that new focus breathing compensation feature that added
The other option would have been to have kept the 24/1.4 & I think you mentioned in a prior video that you had a 85GM already, so just to have bought a second body. This way, you’d have instant access to both 24 & 85 and both at 1.4, and if you are doing paid work, it also gives you the safety net of a back up body should something go wrong.
Saw the 16-35GM at Best Buy and it’s not as big as I expected. Loved the compactness of that zoom. But then again I have the 24-70GM so anything is going to be small for me lol.
oh same, I was about to say cause I own the 24-70 GM and it’s a work out but you get used to it 😅 it’s heavier than the 16-35 GM so now I’m Like oh that’s LIGHT work 🤣
Totally second your decision as a zoom lens dude myself! Having shot weddings for 6 years now I can't tell you enough how zoom lenses have saved my life in those moments when you have a split second to capture the shot. I would like to get the 24-70GM but it's too $ so currently stuck with the Tamron 28-75 f2.8.
My wife and I just went the opposite direction. A big reason we can do that is that we have 2 camera bodies. So we will be using the 24mm f/1.4 and the 85mm f/1.4. We shoot a lot of low light type of situations and having the extra stop was important to us. That being said the 24-70mm is an amazing lens and it makes perfect sense for the trade.
Thats why I like the combo of 24, 55 & 24-105 - can break out the zoom if you get sick of changing lenses. But if I was doing paid work I’d go for two bodies - stick the 24 on one and a 55 or 85 on the other. That’s a no compromise setup that’s easier to use.
Dude that is not crazy. The zoom makes a lot of sense. I just picked up the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 after watching Gerald Undones video. Sony 20mm is great for vlogging. Rumors that a 16mm are coming in the spring. Might be a good combo with that GM.
Hell of a deal. I have the 24-105 for now but I’m eyeing that one for the future. I thought you were going to say the 20mm from the beginning. I’m loving mine so far.
That's why I use 2 bodies with 2 primes. But still sometimes I feel like a 24-70 could be much better. However if I have the time or want to get creative, primes are a joy to use.
TerryWarfield ah thanks for the reply. I bought your luts and have been using your settings. My IG is rednyc_ I would love your feed back on some of my recent videos. I love the look you pull out of the A7iii
My first lense was a sony 16-35 GM. Wish I would have went with the 24-70 GM. Much more versatile. I almost never shoot at 16mm. Mostly, 24-85mm. I did just pick up the 24mm GM. Havent got a chance to use it much. Hoping to over winter break. Thanks for the video. Watch out for those Zoom haters...!
I compared this to the Tamron 17-70 2.8 on aps-s. The sharpness is so good on the Tamron. I can get an 18mp grab on my riii and I’m happy. I have the Sigma 24-70 and it’s stellar. For a backup, the 6400 w/Tamron is just great.
17-28 usually never leaves my a7siii but I do use sigma 16 and 30 1.4 on a7iii for certain shots and no one would probably notice. Ain't no shame in my game
Having the same predicament, although don’t want sell my 24mm gm - unsure to either go for the 24-70gm or the Sigma 24-70! Only thing pointing me to the gm is that I saw a comment on Facebook that the sigma is prone to dust, not sure how true this is thou! Good review by the way I’m new to your channel!
I heard this too. Sand gets in and you can’t get it out. The gm is better weather proofed. I’m torn between the gm or the sigma, £500 difference where I am.. which to go for!!!
Both are great choices. The a7iii is really good in low light also. The siii obviously has the advantage tho. But it’s also almost double the price. I refuse to sell either. I still love my a7iii
Do yourself a favor and sell that 24-70 GM and get the sigma bro. I had both for my a7r3 and like you said 98% of performance for half the cost, to me thats 100% worth it. Picked up a couple primes with the extra cash and i don't regret it at all! Awesome videos as always man! Can't wait to see whats next!
Hey Terry, you make that 24-70 GM look good! I am weakling so I have the 24f1.4GM plus the Tamron 28-75. I am very happy with this combo but since I purchased those lenses the 20 f1.8G lens and now the new Sigma 24-70 have come out and that is a tempting combo. Don't overlook the Tamron 17-28 lens - super sharp but I wish it went to 35mm for versatility. You made a great trade!
I've been primarily using the 28-75 Tamron for all my freelance work (A mixture of theatre/corporate/b-roll segments for small businesses) and I'm looking to either get a 24mm or a 85mm... Not sure which one will help to add more versatility to my filming. I 95% of the time do video and feel that the 24mm (Thinking samyang or viltrox 1.8 oppose to the 1.4 purely cause of the price tag) may add that versatility of getting some wide shots + I could use it for my talking head videos I do on youtube. Do you have any advice for me? The 85mm 1.8 looks so tempting as well, but that would be more for my enjoyment in photography and not directly for my videography. Thanks in advanced!
@@ridhish.devani The 24 f1.4 GM is a lovely lens and would probably give you much more versatility . Save up for it! 85f1.8 is nice but I rarely reach for it since I own zoom telephoto lenses that work just as well for portrait work and don't forget that you can always crop in with the Tamron - hope that helps!
@@chryseass.5143 :') I've heard beautiful things about the 1.4 24mm... Looks like it'll be the one I reach for then! Thanks a bunch! (Do you have a portfolio of your work, i'd be interested to see some of your work)
The thing i love about this is that you identified what your use case is and picked the right tools for that job. I've got the 24 GM with the tamron 28-75, and couldn't be happier with the pair. You've gotta have a normal range zoom in your kit!
Yea I picked up 16-35 G Master and it doesn’t leave my camera ever. On the A7iii plus crop mode, plus clear image zoom, I can’t miss. The 24-70 I think was a smart move for all the reasons you mentioned.
Question man.. you said you were able to get apsc lense on the a7s3, cropped in post and still got 4k.. how? When i read online, the a7s3 with a 1 to 1 pixel readout will do only full hd when apsc crop mode. I know you said you cropped in post but crop is crop.. I just really want to know if i can turn a 35mm into a 50mm with apsc and still get 4k
Bro, I did the same thing. I had my 24mm for like 2 weeks and then traded up for the 24-70 GM. I live in Korea where there are tons of camera shops with all the lenses you can think of, so I paid an additional 500 dollars to 'upgrade'. With the high ISO of my A7iii, A9, and even 6400, I don't miss a thing. Plus, editing photos in post provides the same quality of photos...Get the more versatile lens.
Ok so I have the 24mm and a few months ago bought a 24-70 and had the exact same issue as you. My workflow isn’t compatible with constantly changing lenses. I’ve got a buyer lined up for my 24 for this weekend and now I’m watching videos of 24s bc I’m on the fence lmao. Thanks for continuing to convince me
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The swap worked in your favor. Now that you are here take my advice- (I have been doing this stuff since the early 70s) I don’t know everything but I will tell you never sell quality. Don’t be afraid to acquire quality. If you had bought into a cheaper lens you could not have made your awesome swap. You still have around $1,000 equity in your deal - save for a 70-200 or cash in for the 20mm or the 35 1.8. Great job on the piece - your killing it - keep working hard
Very nice video too!! I would love to see a bit more footage since at the end of the day for me that is the main reason unless of course you say we are going to talk lots about a lens. You information is great. I am going to wait however for an update of 24-70 since it has not been updated for a very long time and pair it with A1. Since 135 - 1.8 is a much newer lens I am curious to see what happens. Have you tried to the 135 1.8 GM? If not when will you? That should be cool I would think. Keep crushing it!
I also shoot with the 24 & 85mm, and I love the 24 mm! That lens is really magical. And thats the reason why I own 2 camera so I don't have to switch between the 2 lenses.
I’m with you on this bro. So tired of swapping lenses and risking dust on the sensor etc. I just want to have one lens on my camera for 90% of what I’m shooting. I copped a brand new 28-70 kit lens from a local listing for $150 and haven’t taken it off my a7siii yet. Not the BEST lens but still usable for almost everything...for $150 im laughing
Yeah man. Convenience is king. Also, make the best out of what you have! You can make some killer stuff with that combo. Obviously your results will only get better with better glass!
Wanted to come back to this video and just state that.. I ended up doing something this similar. I just sold my 35mm GM lens because with having the 24 gm and 50 gm lens. It was hard for me to pick up the 35 since the 50 gave me the same look and the 24 gave me the wide that I needed. So I replaced the 35 with the 16-35 GM zoom lens. And I don't regret it. I hope this 16-35 doesn't do too well.. to where it makes me sell the 24.
That's a real lucky swap man, value wise. But since I ain't jacked like you, I went with the Sigma 28-70 + Sony 20 1.8. That's all my puny arms can handle! 😂 Tell you what though, that combo punches way above its weight class (and price tag). Keep up the good work!
I remember when you got that and I remember a *very* hyped man. You must mean what you say about that 24-70. I own the Canon L (their high end line, red ring around the front) versions of both their 24mm f1.4 and 24-70 f/2.8 and have experienced the same results. Sharp af and versatile. These days I only use the prime in the club. I do lots of party/crowd/on the dance floor shoots for a DJ company and it reigns supreme in that setting, but for everything else it’s the 24-70 or my 70-200L big grey lady. Zoom FTW if we’re talking high end copies like the G-Master and the L Series. Man your videos are getting better each time you release. Production on point. (One critique: Yo. Got to your fonts folder on your computer and delete the following fonts: Arial, Comic Sans, and Papyrus. You’ll thank me later. They’re a punchline in the design world for a reason. Overuse, and by all the wrong people. I caught a whiff of Papyrus at the beginning. Said this out of love. Get a second opinion, ask any designer friend about those three fonts)
Back in college when I shot weddings I had two old 5D bodies so I could have one with the 85 and one with the 35. I love one body with a zoom but nothing beats two bodies with primes.
Hi men... great stuff, can you do a compare from the sigma 16mm to the sony 20mm when you have the chance, I wander if the stabilising crops just enough to avoid the vignetting. peace.
Bro. I have the 24mm 1.4 and I RARELY IF EVER use it. I just bought the sigma 24-70 and I love it. I agree w you I don’t love the 24mm look it’s so much better in crop mode which means I like the 35mm fields of view better. I tell myself I will use the 24 for travel w my other prime travel kit voightlander 12mm, 55mm ziess, 90 macro and 24?
Entertaining vid. Most use full lens out for most people. The best solution for working commercially would of been to have 2 pro bodies with the 2 different lens. But hey , I can't afford ( really that means justify $$$ ) that anyway.
is the 2.8 a big deal for your talkin head set up? i know you are a sony shooter but im lookin at some lens for my fuji. just gathering some knowledge. great video!
I am also for the zooms just that they are expensive especially hm. And then maybe buy primes for favorite or rare focal lengths - for studio stuff. Outside run n gun situstion its annoying to change lenses yes. Though you can do so much iwth 20mm or 24mm
Stumbled across your video by accident. Dope video, entertaining, and you in the gym. Had to sub. I'll check out more of your videos this week. PEACE from ATL ✊🏾📸
What the heck man, you only have 18k subscribers? This video was clutch, I think you talked me into getting the 24mm and probably putting the 24-70mm on my list.
I thought you were going to say you went with the 35mm gm Sony lens so you could crop in to 50mm. I already have the 85mm 1.8 so that 35mm 1.4 GM will be my next lens. Good luck and happy shooting!
Yeah, as much as I love primes, the versatility of zooms is hard to say no to. I use the 24-70 2.8 Sigma Art on my a7RIII and it’s just an absolute beast and workhorse, built like a tank with just beautiful results. I loved the Sigma APS-C primes on my a6300 but for travel and every day usage, it’s gotta be the 24-70
Hi! Great video! Glad you mentioned the Sigma 16mm dc I'm thinking of Samyang 18mm 2.8 or the Sigma 16mm 1.4 for real estate. Any suggestions? Btw I subscribed can't wait to see more videos love your personality and flow
For real estate you will typically want to be find a lens that’s between 12-16mm. The sigma 16mm f1.4 is a crop lens, so no matter the camera you put it on, the effective field of view you will get with it is about 24mm. I would look at a full frame wide lens for real estate. Having a 24mm focal length for small rooms like bathrooms can be VERY challenging to work with
@@TerryWarfield thanks for replying greatly appreciate it! I need a budget lens starting out and it's going to more than likely have to be a prime. I'll keep looking for a used one. Thanks so much!
😂😂😂Terry putting the G in G-Prime. Your personality alone is worth the follow, but you got great content too! I'm a beginner and my set up is the A7iii with the 24mm 1.4. I love the final stop and this lens! Although I hardly know how to wield it's power, and I wonder why I didn't go with a more versatile zoom for my first. Oh well!
Yeah I’m thinking of adding the 24-70 Sigma to my kit! I’m in love with my 35mm 1.4 right now!The advantages of the versatility vs the 1.4 is really something I’ve been trying to figure out. That 82mm filter scares me though! Gonna cost me some cash when I get filters.
I only shoot videos, mostly on gimbals… I own a7s3 and 24 1.4 / zeiss 55 1.8 / batis 85 1.8. I think I’ll sell all three to buy 16-35 2.8 gm. What you guys think??
Man…this is exactly where I’m at right now. Been looking at the Tamron 24-70 g2 for my EOS R. I just can’t make up my mind. My preferred photography is urban style portraits.
Salute Brotha. Dope video. But Naaaah bruh, you gotta have that 24 1.4 on Deck. 😂 It's my all time favorite focal length and lens. I thought you were gonna say you got the 20mm 1.8 prime. Even with the GM zoom I would still keep the 24 1.4. I have the 24 to 105 f4. Dope for my A7c but def rather have that GM zoom.
Never sacrifice the Toneh.
Lmao, I see I spoke you up in this video! Great to see you in here. Keep up the dope content bro! 💪🏽
haha this comment made my day...
The image of a prime vs the convenience of a zoom is a constant struggle. I think you made a good trade though!
Right! I think I came out on the better end of this one tho. Thanks for watching!
Thats where im at with it all the time man, couldn't have said it better myself. Im just starting my youtube channel and im not in love with the image im getting from my 24-70 gmaster and been entertaining getting a 24mm 1.4 because i really want a sharp wide prime. I even tested out the 12-24 the other day in the store with my camera and the test footage is effin bananas!! Like i was mind blown. Anyways the struggle continues lol
I think the only logical sense from this trade is, you've got a much more expensive lens for a lot less. Other than that ...the rest of ur reasons don't make sense cos a prime has its place and a zoom lens has its place too. When shooting with a prime...ur mind shouldn't be even considering shots at other focal lengths. Also the decision to put on a prime lens on ur body in the first place is based on what you are about to shoot. If u r gonna be shooting a scene where u are the only photographer and the client is expecting a variety of photos, then u either have 2 bodies with primes on them or a single body with a zoom that covers the focal ranges of both the primes or have 2 photographers. So yea ...I think you need both..the prime and the zoom and use them as per requirement of the job. I think u know this and that the only real reason you went ahead with the deal is cos u were getting the better end of itl. With the money saved from the exchange, you are going to buy the 24mm 1.4 back in some time. Haha..only time will tell!
When I first started doing weddings years ago, I used a 24-70 because that's what was taught to do. Years later when I switched to Sony, I traded my zooms for f/1.4 primes and two dual cameras. That kinda worked for a while, but then I got the Sigma 24-70 and used that for my weddings, and it's been such a relief! I forgot that I could cover 80% of the wedding day with just one camera and lens, and just switch to a 14-24 or 70-200 for the little bit of time that I would need them. The other advantage was that with that particular lens, the minimum autofocus distance is INSANELY close..like to the tip of the lens hood close, which makes it perfect for detail and pseudo-macro shots! Some say that primes are sharper than zooms, but that's relative. Some say that the bokeh is better on primes, but that's also relative, and dependent on personal preference. Sure, you'll get 2-stops of light difference for less noise, but the Sony files give lots of room for adjusting and noise reduction in editing. Regardless, it is always good to use the gear that works for YOU!
Wow you got a great deal on it! Did you consider the Sigma 24-70 2.8? Im looking at that for next year.
@@gregorybeale Yes, I mentioned it in my post. It's a must-have lens!
Thank you for this comment. I currently own 2 prime lenses from the sigma trio for my APS-C and I will upgrade to a full frame in the future. I shoot families on occasion but I mainly use my camera for making contents, as that’s how I am learning. Even in a controlled environment like mine, I already find changing lenses to be a hassle especially when I use a gimbal. I can imagine that being more so for you on your wedding shoots. I am definitely considering the 24-70. Cheers.
To me, 24mm has never been wide enough and 70mm never long enough. 24-70 is no doubt a range that I can do without. 16-35, 70-200 coupled with some primes was the way to go for me. Surely, this has been the case for me and my style of photography and might not be the best for many people out there.
"GM : Gangsta Mode." Now im subscribing yo.
I subscribed right when he said that lol
me 2 xD
Get yourself a second body and rock two prime lenses. Ideal set up with no compromise on image quality.
That’s exactly my thoughts as soon as I heard his complaints.
Agreed.
Pretty sure most pros carry at least 6 or maybe 7 cameras with different lenses on their bodies at all times.
@@Altai22 how and why would a "pro" need to carry 6 or 7 cameras with mounted lenses on? As if more is better and someone likes to carry like 20 kg of gear.2-3 lenses for event photography maybe if you need the low-light capability of a 1.4 prime or something.New modern zoom lenses are incredibly sharp and i´d say if you compare a excellent zoom with a mediocre prime with high aperture - i´d take the zoom. It all depends on ur needs and what genre you are specialised in. Landscape photographs mostly carry 2-3 lenses i´d say because if you travel and hike around areas - every pound you can save starts to count and you have the time to change lenses and arent in need of multiple bodies.
@@Istdochallesnurgeklauteyo woosh
Damn, that is a huge come up! I’ve actually been considering selling a couple of my primes to slim down my kit and getting the Sigma 24-70 2.8.
I think you would be happy with that!!
I'd suggest check the tamron out. IQ is incredible for the size and price. I would either pick the tamron on a budget or the gm for the absolute best. I've seen quite a few reviews comparing the tamron to the gm and I really couldn't tell a difference.
I've had the tamron for more than a year now and it's my favourite
@Whatever Keeps You Calm true it also depends on what you do. I tend to shoot on gimbal and 28-70 is my most used. My arms are probably weak to constantly handle the sigma on a gimbal
The Camera Conspiracies reference, love it. Dude cracks me up...
Yeah he’s hilarious
@@TerryWarfield All I want is the perfect camuhruh....
You’re not crazy. I bought a Sigma 24-70 when I bought my A7C and it’s literally the only lens I own and I use it for everything! However now that I have the A7IV I wish I had Sony G master so I could have better active stabilization on top of that new focus breathing compensation feature that added
The other option would have been to have kept the 24/1.4 & I think you mentioned in a prior video that you had a 85GM already, so just to have bought a second body. This way, you’d have instant access to both 24 & 85 and both at 1.4, and if you are doing paid work, it also gives you the safety net of a back up body should something go wrong.
Saw the 16-35GM at Best Buy and it’s not as big as I expected. Loved the compactness of that zoom. But then again I have the 24-70GM so anything is going to be small for me lol.
Man this bad boy is MASSIVE lol
oh same, I was about to say cause I own the 24-70 GM and it’s a work out but you get used to it 😅 it’s heavier than the 16-35 GM so now I’m
Like oh that’s LIGHT work 🤣
Great video, Terry. Thank you! I can relate to the problem! My current combo is the 20mm f1.8 plus the 24-105mm F4.
Totally second your decision as a zoom lens dude myself! Having shot weddings for 6 years now I can't tell you enough how zoom lenses have saved my life in those moments when you have a split second to capture the shot.
I would like to get the 24-70GM but it's too $ so currently stuck with the Tamron 28-75 f2.8.
Yeah this zoom is clutch. And why not shoot for the sigma 24-70? It’s literally just as good as the Gm for a thousand bucks cheaper
@@TerryWarfield might look into that. Thanks!
My wife and I just went the opposite direction. A big reason we can do that is that we have 2 camera bodies. So we will be using the 24mm f/1.4 and the 85mm f/1.4. We shoot a lot of low light type of situations and having the extra stop was important to us. That being said the 24-70mm is an amazing lens and it makes perfect sense for the trade.
Got me sold mate. Subscribed to this great content and just added a 24 1.4 to my shopping basket because I do talking head and I also love that look.
Sometime versatility is KING. You do you. Great job.
For sure! Thanks man!
Thats why I like the combo of 24, 55 & 24-105 - can break out the zoom if you get sick of changing lenses. But if I was doing paid work I’d go for two bodies - stick the 24 on one and a 55 or 85 on the other. That’s a no compromise setup that’s easier to use.
Dude that is not crazy. The zoom makes a lot of sense. I just picked up the Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 after watching Gerald Undones video. Sony 20mm is great for vlogging. Rumors that a 16mm are coming in the spring. Might be a good combo with that GM.
That would be sickkkk
Hell of a deal. I have the 24-105 for now but I’m eyeing that one for the future. I thought you were going to say the 20mm from the beginning. I’m loving mine so far.
Haha. I love the 20mm too. I’m going to end up buying one or either another 24mm once I have some more money saved up
That's why I use 2 bodies with 2 primes. But still sometimes I feel like a 24-70 could be much better. However if I have the time or want to get creative, primes are a joy to use.
hey are you still using HLG3??
I bounce back and forth between HLG3 and Slog3 on the a7siii. On the A7iii I still use HLG3
TerryWarfield ah thanks for the reply. I bought your luts and have been using your settings. My IG is rednyc_ I would love your feed back on some of my recent videos. I love the look you pull out of the A7iii
My first lense was a sony 16-35 GM. Wish I would have went with the 24-70 GM. Much more versatile. I almost never shoot at 16mm. Mostly, 24-85mm. I did just pick up the 24mm GM. Havent got a chance to use it much. Hoping to over winter break. Thanks for the video. Watch out for those Zoom haters...!
Same. I really wanted the 16-35 at first but now that I have the 24-70, I think it’s a much better fit for my usage
4:38 Probably you need a second camera, one with a specialized lens?
You got a sweet deal! Now tell me the 16mm sigma, how much vignetting are you getting and how much cropping do you have to do?
Actually making an entire video on this. But had to crop in about 15-20% to get rid of the vignette and back to a 24mm equivalent FOV
I compared this to the Tamron 17-70 2.8 on aps-s. The sharpness is so good on the Tamron. I can get an 18mp grab on my riii and I’m happy. I have the Sigma 24-70 and it’s stellar. For a backup, the 6400 w/Tamron is just great.
Which one is better tho? The Tamron or Sigma(outside the different focal lenght)?
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Both are stellar.
what a deal! The 24-70/2.8 used is just about the same price of a 24mm so I'm not too surprised he did a straight trade.
Yeah I found that out today lol
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But the 24mm was also used.
17-28 usually never leaves my a7siii but I do use sigma 16 and 30 1.4 on a7iii for certain shots and no one would probably notice. Ain't no shame in my game
There shouldn’t be! Great combo
Having the same predicament, although don’t want sell my 24mm gm - unsure to either go for the 24-70gm or the Sigma 24-70! Only thing pointing me to the gm is that I saw a comment on Facebook that the sigma is prone to dust, not sure how true this is thou! Good review by the way I’m new to your channel!
I heard this too. Sand gets in and you can’t get it out. The gm is better weather proofed. I’m torn between the gm or the sigma, £500 difference where I am.. which to go for!!!
Question about the 2 stops of light: which would be better?
A7iii and 1.4 lens or a7siii and 2.8 lens? Just wondering to make the right choice...
Both are great choices. The a7iii is really good in low light also. The siii obviously has the advantage tho. But it’s also almost double the price. I refuse to sell either. I still love my a7iii
Hey man what lens would be best for gimbol shots? I got the a7iii
Do yourself a favor and sell that 24-70 GM and get the sigma bro. I had both for my a7r3 and like you said 98% of performance for half the cost, to me thats 100% worth it. Picked up a couple primes with the extra cash and i don't regret it at all! Awesome videos as always man! Can't wait to see whats next!
Bro thats me right now
I have both the sigma and sony gm
And honestly, the quality on the sigma looks a little better, dayum
Hey Terry, you make that 24-70 GM look good! I am weakling so I have the 24f1.4GM plus the Tamron 28-75. I am very happy with this combo but since I purchased those lenses the 20 f1.8G lens and now the new Sigma 24-70 have come out and that is a tempting combo. Don't overlook the Tamron 17-28 lens - super sharp but I wish it went to 35mm for versatility. You made a great trade!
I've been primarily using the 28-75 Tamron for all my freelance work (A mixture of theatre/corporate/b-roll segments for small businesses) and I'm looking to either get a 24mm or a 85mm... Not sure which one will help to add more versatility to my filming. I 95% of the time do video and feel that the 24mm (Thinking samyang or viltrox 1.8 oppose to the 1.4 purely cause of the price tag) may add that versatility of getting some wide shots + I could use it for my talking head videos I do on youtube. Do you have any advice for me? The 85mm 1.8 looks so tempting as well, but that would be more for my enjoyment in photography and not directly for my videography. Thanks in advanced!
@@ridhish.devani The 24 f1.4 GM is a lovely lens and would probably give you much more versatility . Save up for it! 85f1.8 is nice but I rarely reach for it since I own zoom telephoto lenses that work just as well for portrait work and don't forget that you can always crop in with the Tamron - hope that helps!
@@chryseass.5143 :') I've heard beautiful things about the 1.4 24mm... Looks like it'll be the one I reach for then! Thanks a bunch! (Do you have a portfolio of your work, i'd be interested to see some of your work)
Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 8 is my go to for this. Light weight and f2.8 cost at near half price 👍🏿
Also I have the 17-28mm
Twin peaks right there 👍🏿
The thing i love about this is that you identified what your use case is and picked the right tools for that job. I've got the 24 GM with the tamron 28-75, and couldn't be happier with the pair. You've gotta have a normal range zoom in your kit!
I would have done the same, the versatility is unbeatable and shoot, can't beat that trade deal. That's a come up! Dope video my guy.
Thank you man!
Yea I picked up 16-35 G Master and it doesn’t leave my camera ever. On the A7iii plus crop mode, plus clear image zoom, I can’t miss. The 24-70 I think was a smart move for all the reasons you mentioned.
Question man.. you said you were able to get apsc lense on the a7s3, cropped in post and still got 4k.. how? When i read online, the a7s3 with a 1 to 1 pixel readout will do only full hd when apsc crop mode. I know you said you cropped in post but crop is crop.. I just really want to know if i can turn a 35mm into a 50mm with apsc and still get 4k
Bro, I did the same thing. I had my 24mm for like 2 weeks and then traded up for the 24-70 GM. I live in Korea where there are tons of camera shops with all the lenses you can think of, so I paid an additional 500 dollars to 'upgrade'. With the high ISO of my A7iii, A9, and even 6400, I don't miss a thing. Plus, editing photos in post provides the same quality of photos...Get the more versatile lens.
Ok so I have the 24mm and a few months ago bought a 24-70 and had the exact same issue as you. My workflow isn’t compatible with constantly changing lenses. I’ve got a buyer lined up for my 24 for this weekend and now I’m watching videos of 24s bc I’m on the fence lmao. Thanks for continuing to convince me
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The swap worked in your favor. Now that you are here take my advice- (I have been doing this stuff since the early 70s) I don’t know everything but I will tell you never sell quality. Don’t be afraid to acquire quality. If you had bought into a cheaper lens you could not have made your awesome swap. You still have around $1,000 equity in your deal - save for a 70-200 or cash in for the 20mm or the 35 1.8. Great job on the piece - your killing it - keep working hard
Very nice video too!! I would love to see a bit more footage since at the end of the day for me that is the main reason unless of course you say we are going to talk lots about a lens.
You information is great.
I am going to wait however for an update of 24-70 since it has not been updated for a very long time and pair it with A1.
Since 135 - 1.8 is a much newer lens I am curious to see what happens.
Have you tried to the 135 1.8 GM?
If not when will you?
That should be cool I would think.
Keep crushing it!
Wow, good deal and points, and wish you all the best with the new zoom. Next video comparison to Sigma 24 - 70?
I also shoot with the 24 & 85mm, and I love the 24 mm! That lens is really magical. And thats the reason why I own 2 camera so I don't have to switch between the 2 lenses.
Or you could do all your 24mm shooting, then do your 85mm and only change lenses once.
I can’t wait for my
16-35 2.8 Gansta Mode!
I want that one too haha
I have the tamron 28-75 2.8 it’s a hell of a lens
I’m with you on this bro. So tired of swapping lenses and risking dust on the sensor etc. I just want to have one lens on my camera for 90% of what I’m shooting. I copped a brand new 28-70 kit lens from a local listing for $150 and haven’t taken it off my a7siii yet. Not the BEST lens but still usable for almost everything...for $150 im laughing
Yeah man. Convenience is king. Also, make the best out of what you have! You can make some killer stuff with that combo. Obviously your results will only get better with better glass!
For such an expensive camera you need better glass mate. Glass> camera. Always
Wanted to come back to this video and just state that.. I ended up doing something this similar. I just sold my 35mm GM lens because with having the 24 gm and 50 gm lens. It was hard for me to pick up the 35 since the 50 gave me the same look and the 24 gave me the wide that I needed. So I replaced the 35 with the 16-35 GM zoom lens.
And I don't regret it. I hope this 16-35 doesn't do too well.. to where it makes me sell the 24.
can you do a video on what filters you use and why? really entertaining videos man!
Smooth deal to me. I'd do like you said tho and resale for the sigma or tamron 24-70 and the 24 1.4
That's a real lucky swap man, value wise. But since I ain't jacked like you, I went with the Sigma 28-70 + Sony 20 1.8. That's all my puny arms can handle! 😂
Tell you what though, that combo punches way above its weight class (and price tag).
Keep up the good work!
You explain so well, congrats for your speech. I loved it!
I remember when you got that and I remember a *very* hyped man. You must mean what you say about that 24-70. I own the Canon L (their high end line, red ring around the front) versions of both their 24mm f1.4 and 24-70 f/2.8 and have experienced the same results. Sharp af and versatile. These days I only use the prime in the club. I do lots of party/crowd/on the dance floor shoots for a DJ company and it reigns supreme in that setting, but for everything else it’s the 24-70 or my 70-200L big grey lady. Zoom FTW if we’re talking high end copies like the G-Master and the L Series. Man your videos are getting better each time you release. Production on point.
(One critique: Yo. Got to your fonts folder on your computer and delete the following fonts: Arial, Comic Sans, and Papyrus. You’ll thank me later. They’re a punchline in the design world for a reason. Overuse, and by all the wrong people. I caught a whiff of Papyrus at the beginning. Said this out of love. Get a second opinion, ask any designer friend about those three fonts)
Back in college when I shot weddings I had two old 5D bodies so I could have one with the 85 and one with the 35. I love one body with a zoom but nothing beats two bodies with primes.
Hi men... great stuff, can you do a compare from the sigma 16mm to the sony 20mm when you have the chance, I wander if the stabilising crops just enough to avoid the vignetting. peace.
8:09 & 9:38
What lenses were used for these shots?
That’s that 85mm f1.8 (there is a link to it in the description). Love the compression 85mm lenses offer
@@TerryWarfield Beautiful. Thank you.
I just bought an A 7iii last week and need a really good lens . What should I get ?
Great channel dude... One question at 24mm with lens is sharper?
Yo! Major congrats almost doubled your subscribers in 8 months!!!!
Bro. I have the 24mm 1.4 and I RARELY IF EVER use it. I just bought the sigma 24-70 and I love it. I agree w you I don’t love the 24mm look it’s so much better in crop mode which means I like the 35mm fields of view better. I tell myself I will use the 24 for travel w my other prime travel kit voightlander 12mm, 55mm ziess, 90 macro and 24?
Yo Fam, I watched a couple of your Vids before, but after this video I had to subscribe... Salute!!!
Literally laughed out loud at "you right but shut up" (5:34). Not sure if it's the delivery or the sentiment, but it changed me.
Entertaining vid. Most use full lens out for most people. The best solution for working commercially would of been to have 2 pro bodies with the 2 different lens. But hey , I can't afford ( really that means justify $$$ ) that anyway.
I have a second body (a7iii) I just hate lugging two cameras unless I have to lol
I would like to see what you think bout the Tamron 35-150mm 2.0-2.8
I have it in hands right now. I’ve been talking about it a lot on my Twitter and IG. Video coming in the next week
is the 2.8 a big deal for your talkin head set up? i know you are a sony shooter but im lookin at some lens for my fuji. just gathering some knowledge. great video!
It’s honestly more than good enough. Only us snobs love shooting at 1.4 lol
I am also for the zooms just that they are expensive especially hm. And then maybe buy primes for favorite or rare focal lengths - for studio stuff. Outside run n gun situstion its annoying to change lenses yes. Though you can do so much iwth 20mm or 24mm
The video looked great! The crop lens doesn't look bad at all!
Thanks you! For sure it works!
Dude, nice video but sound is very distorted. Is Limiter working all the time?
Just use compression...
I was ready to flame you for the trade until you said you swapped straight up, no cash on top. You hit a lick with this one. No brainer
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My only opinion is would it not be easier to have a second body. Be it something like a7iii etc.
Stumbled across your video by accident. Dope video, entertaining, and you in the gym. Had to sub. I'll check out more of your videos this week. PEACE from ATL ✊🏾📸
WhAt up my guy! Thanks for joining the squad!
Nice choice but i love the 28-75. 2.8 Tamron.
If that trade wasn't on the table.. would you have considered the Sigma 24-70 DG DN version? Cause Ive seen great reviews on that lens
Watch til the end 😎 talked about it at the end
@@TerryWarfield Yeah i saw! But you got a great deal with that trade though!
Subbed mate. I brought and sold the 24 twice now, settled on the 20 and hopefully pick up the rumoured 16mm GM next year.
This video is so helpful! I just grabbed the Sigma 24-70 for my FX3 and I'm super excited to see what I can create! Glad I found you and subscribed!
The 24-70mm f2.8 GM is going be to way too heavy for me. I'm going for the 24mm GM mainly because of the weight.
Content was great, lighting too -- but the thing I enjoyed most about this video was your personal style. Talk about keepin' it real...? Hell yeah.
16-35mm f2.8 GM
70-200 f2.8 GM
50MM f1.4 Zeiss
85mm f1.8 Zeiss
35mm F2.8 Zeiss
I have primes in between 24-70 that i don't know if i still need one. 😪
I had 24-70 gm and is heavy and bulky, I like the 24gm better.
The deal you made is a no-brainer. Would you have preferred the 16-35mm if you had a similar opportunity?
Nice 👍 I also sold my 24mm 1.4gm after one year..it's a great lens but too wide. I think 35mm 1.4 GM will be soon announced.
What the heck man, you only have 18k subscribers? This video was clutch, I think you talked me into getting the 24mm and probably putting the 24-70mm on my list.
I thought you were going to say you went with the 35mm gm Sony lens so you could crop in to 50mm. I already have the 85mm 1.8 so that 35mm 1.4 GM will be my next lens. Good luck and happy shooting!
Great deal for that 24-70. Also what is that cage you have? Small rig?
Yep! Link is in the description
Yeah, as much as I love primes, the versatility of zooms is hard to say no to. I use the 24-70 2.8 Sigma Art on my a7RIII and it’s just an absolute beast and workhorse, built like a tank with just beautiful results.
I loved the Sigma APS-C primes on my a6300 but for travel and every day usage, it’s gotta be the 24-70
Facts. I’ll likely get another 24mm. But right now, this versatility and sharpness is a much better fit
Hi! Great video! Glad you mentioned the Sigma 16mm dc I'm thinking of Samyang 18mm 2.8 or the Sigma 16mm 1.4 for real estate. Any suggestions? Btw I subscribed can't wait to see more videos love your personality and flow
For real estate you will typically want to be find a lens that’s between 12-16mm. The sigma 16mm f1.4 is a crop lens, so no matter the camera you put it on, the effective field of view you will get with it is about 24mm. I would look at a full frame wide lens for real estate. Having a 24mm focal length for small rooms like bathrooms can be VERY challenging to work with
@@TerryWarfield thanks for replying greatly appreciate it! I need a budget lens starting out and it's going to more than likely have to be a prime. I'll keep looking for a used one. Thanks so much!
I was expecting something different, I actually agree.
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😂😂😂Terry putting the G in G-Prime. Your personality alone is worth the follow, but you got great content too! I'm a beginner and my set up is the A7iii with the 24mm 1.4. I love the final stop and this lens! Although I hardly know how to wield it's power, and I wonder why I didn't go with a more versatile zoom for my first. Oh well!
Well you could just use 2 cameras, one with a 24, the other with 50mm, if you use APSC crop mode u can cover 24, 35, 50, 85mm.
Yeah I’m thinking of adding the 24-70 Sigma to my kit! I’m in love with my 35mm 1.4 right now!The advantages of the versatility vs the 1.4 is really something I’ve been trying to figure out. That 82mm filter scares me though! Gonna cost me some cash when I get filters.
I think that sigma 24-70 is the wave! If i had to BUY one I for sure would have gotten the sigma
I got the 24-70 2.8 tamron G2. Super versatile for just about any situation.
I totally get it. I have an 85mm GM and hated swopping out lenses all the time. So got the Sigma 24 to 70mm and never looked back
Does anyone has an issue with this lens 24-70 gm II to rattle what you move it without the camera on?
Learning alot. Thanks for the great info pal. Appreciate the time.
I only shoot videos, mostly on gimbals… I own a7s3 and 24 1.4 / zeiss 55 1.8 / batis 85 1.8. I think I’ll sell all three to buy 16-35 2.8 gm. What you guys think??
So helpful!!! Thank you!!! Love your videos!!
Man…this is exactly where I’m at right now. Been looking at the Tamron 24-70 g2 for my EOS R. I just can’t make up my mind. My preferred photography is urban style portraits.
Had my sub at “gangsta mode” 😂
Haha my guy
great talking! What lens you have used for shooting THIS Video by the way? )
Salute Brotha. Dope video. But Naaaah bruh, you gotta have that 24 1.4 on Deck. 😂 It's my all time favorite focal length and lens. I thought you were gonna say you got the 20mm 1.8 prime. Even with the GM zoom I would still keep the 24 1.4. I have the 24 to 105 f4. Dope for my A7c but def rather have that GM zoom.
Trust me as soon as I have more money saved up I am snatching another one up. I HAVE to have that lens in my Arsenal
@@TerryWarfield I heard that. That lens is a keeper, but I see why you to took advantage of that straight up trade.