Definitely feels like Nergal deserves a top 5 spot more than Winter Edelgard. Edelgard is still a great Galeforcer, and she's my favorite unit, but Nergal is just better. Stealing a whole teams buffs and providing healing from Essence Drain is just too good.
Agreed he literally got better also with the recent mythic banner he can literally steals heidrun divine nectar effect and throw back at her like uno reverse 😭
In terms of impact, while it is true that Nergal is good, he had less of an impact on the game than the others. He’s awesome and I can tell you that we almost did a top 10 instead so we could talk about him, but before we got Nergal we got Tina and we also got Mythic Loki around that time. Stealing buffs or removing them wasn’t the most Meta shifting development, and even if it was, Nergal wasn’t the first to do it. Winter Edelgard revived what had been a mostly dead offense archetype and made it not only accessible, but so common that you had to start slotting in defense units in the hope that they could survive her. It is true that she has slowed down a step, but current performance isn’t the point of the video.
I agree with the opinions of other players here. It's true W! Edelgard is very comfortable to use, but more comfortable in the attacking phase than in defense. Meanwhile, Nergal was good in both phases. With the arrival of BoF4 & Heiðrún, V! Lyon is down! He is only useful on his duo skill. No more attacks In my opinion: 1. E! Ike (u know why) 2. A! Micaiah (i hate this unit very much) 3. F! Nergal (too tanky) 4. Y! F! Robin (very annoying debuff) 5. W! Edelgard (still mobility and hard nuke) 😊
Personally I'd use Nergal or Celica over marth as the honorable mentions. Giving extra -1 to old units is nice, arena is borderline unplayable because of celica ring and Nergal is very strong in every game mode.
I think it is mainly because like 98% of units want the Marth Ring and they can use it in any team. There are many other ways to remove buffs from enemies or warp, and they are not universally useful effects.
@@illialidur8244 I'd argue that not that many units want marths ring. First off all brave units get penalised, but also most meta units have their special cd either at 1 already so it does nothing, or they have some way to get it every combat so it just makes them a little more consistent. Celicas ring isn't just the warping, it's also free damage which IS universally useful, not to mention how very few warping effects allow up to 4 spaces of warping so celicas ring still has benefits on those who already warp.
VLyon the FEdelgard of 2024? that's a strange comparison imo, FEdelgard was much more comparable to EIke since they share the same role: mainly omnitanks in AR-O or annoying damage sponges in AR-D, sure she fell off quicker but her popularity outlasted her meta viability and the same is gonna happen to EIke, unlike VLyon that's just another bonkers but frail nuke. VMyrr should've been an honorable mention at the very least tho, pretty good list regardless.
Why he compares VLyon and Fall Edel is cause they got stuff that counter their meta time.... Like Lyon his chip damage legit got nerfed by Breath of Life 4 while Edelgard it was dodge skills or units that breaks her prf while as well as damage reduction peircing
yeah its weird, Lyon dies to any unit that starts the combat against him, he is nothing like Fallen Edelgard, Emblem Ike is the modern Fallen Edelgard.
Really the thing about Fedel was her mixed phasing, she was exceptional in both phases. Ike is just really bulky but his offense has some weird and funny flaws, while Lyon is defensively nothing special at all but if he attack he’s super evil. I think Fedel during her prime was a bigger problem than Ike is now, just Ike for some reason is just getting more tools while Fedel got crept relatively more quickly I think.
@samkeiser9776 Yeah and it's a bit unfair to say she fell off as soon as she wasn't the strongest tank, when in reality FEdel adapted to be a more mixed phase tank and that gave her even more longevity, I don't think EIke has that same flexibility and as soon IS releases real counters to him, he'll probably drop off the meta just as Brave Ike did, being used as a counter meta pick at most.
My guesses prior to watching the video and by only looking at the title. 1. Buff stealers ( nergal and mythic loki ) 2. Attuned micaiah 3. Emblem Ike 4. Emblem celica 5. Breath of life 4 and laguz friend ( I know it’s not a unit but I see it so often it might as well be )
Thanks for this. Respectfully, d.Lyon wasn’t the incarnation of f!Edelgard. Ever since B!Lyn there have been scary ranged cavs but the strategy is always wait until the AI overextends and then run up and ORKO them (except in Summoner Duels, so for that mode you may be right. But in Arena he’s nerfed, since cavs have a very hard time on those maps). That would never work with f!Edelgard. You had to know her (1 or 2) weaknesses and build a unit that could counter it. And if you didn’t have that counter ready, she would mow down your entire team. E!Ike is the exact same way. In my experience, only N!Igrene can kill him out of the box consistently. For those of us who don’t have her, we need to come in with a plan, usually involving a blue mage AoE.
It's such a peak cinema how the video started with Micaich and ended with Ike gosh Tellius is so peak!! Also why no Nergal he literally so broken in every mode and he gets better and better as recently thanks to heidrun he can steal her divine nectar status and uno reverse that thing on her and the enemies lol it's so funny he genuinely a menace tbh. I'd replace edelgard she isn't even close to be like the others mentioned it should have been Nergal and honestly even duo SharVero is better than her tbh.
Yeah but the point is the impact they had. Edelgard revived a mostly dead archetype in Galeforce, Nergal and Sharena didn’t do anything as meta shifting as that
Emblem Celica has massively changed AR, both offense and defense. She enables strategies that were pipe dreams before. If you really write her off as being just another warp fiend, then you need to dream bigger. You can also use her ring quite well in arena. Like you say, Emblem Heroes are very F2P friendly. And as much as I love Christmas Edelgard, that unit is just an upgrade on an already existing archetype. E!Celica enables play that wasn't possible before.
Marth is my favourite character, so I’ll always love him and his versions, and while obviously I’ll always have a special place for Caeda, I never expected for one minute to enjoy using her as much as I have done since her release. And she’s only gotten better since Gust and Null C echo! The only other unit that I’ve had such a blast with, has been Nergal. So fun to pass out his bonus to the team. Other units I’ve loved since CYL7 have been Brave Soren, Ascended Merric, and obviously Emblem Ike but that’s a boring pick lol
I agree with the list (although I might have replaced WEdelgard with BSharena, but I understand why you kept her instead). Two things though: DAltina also has scowl and EIke has no pierceable DR.
I agree with the opinions of other players here. It's true W! Edelgard is very comfortable to use, but more comfortable in the attacking phase than in defense. Meanwhile, Nergal was good in both phases. With the arrival of BoF4 & Heiðrún, V! Lyon is down! He is only useful on his duo skill. No more attacks In my opinion: 1. E! Ike (u know why) 2. A! Micaiah (i hate this unit very much) 3. F! Nergal (too tanky) 4. Y! F! Robin (very annoying debuff) 5. W! Edelgard (still mobility and hard nuke) 😊
Idk if these two are already outdated but Summer Edelgard and Summer Caeda are my favorites😭😭 I just don’t know if they’re viable or even usable right now
Probably would have changed the order (Edelgard 5th and the others going one forward), but overall I can agree with those 5, despite I probably would have put someone else like Nergal or the new Heidrún (which is probably just to new by now) over Edelgard completely, but I can understand that with what it feels like half of FEHTubers are absolute Galeforce cracks, so it’s alright. :) Micaiah, Duo Robin, Duo Lyon and Ike I fully agree with.
Max invest F! Ike spd/def unity, LG4, BoF4, ncd e with gust and E! Ike ring can survive most things with grand strategy support. Only two he really fears is Loki and Nergal
Dup Seiðr and Duo Gullveig because favoritism (Watched the rest of the video and Duo Gullveig is in T0 Galeforce!!!!!! Tysm Joel!!!!! Also nahh M!Alear is not in omnitank tier list… Would’ve included Heiðrún on the list action economy go brrr) If we’re talking serious rankings, Legendary M!Corrin! Just kidding, Duo Robin, so I think ny 250 orbs investment on Robin in next DSH seems worth it. Also bro forgot to mention Duo Robin’s button is in 7x7 area making it the best button of gen 8 behind duo lyon.
Ike is even better than you said actually bc none of his damage reduction is pierceable. He's insane and I immediately forfeit any time he shows up in voting gauntlets. Unless I'm using my own +10 E!Ike in the voting gauntlet the
Not a top 5 character but Bridal Embla is my favorite :p I need to stop using Emblem Ike though I’m new and he wins so many match ups it’s hard to learn anything other than “just use Ike”. When you’re trying to learn the basics abilities and what they do in practice.
It’s not about the current strength, it’s more about the meta impact the units had. For sure Nergal is strong and you have to plan for his presence on a team, but Edelgard reinvented Galeforcing in a super accessible way.
Look at previously bad units like legendary female corrin and legendary seliph climb their way a ladder to be compared to the Omni tank of the game shows they had justice done to them
While I don’t think E!Celica is top 5 unit wise (def top 10), she prolly should be top 5 in general with her ring. Arena is becoming annoying with her ring effect, she is annoying with warp in AR-D and SD becomes more of a nuisance in terms of planning
Watched the video. I knew it was gonna be him. The only thing crazier than Emblem Ike is that precedent says he won’t be in the top 8 of AHR early next year 😅 I would be interested in a top F2P units to build including demotes and grails.
Im tired beyond exhaustion of seeing Ike everywhere. He is a pest thats ruining the game for me, not because I cant beat him (got -0 defense this week) but because it is so freaking boring when every-single-match is a copy paste of the previous one.
Are you EVER going to create a video to tell us HOW to counter Ike instead of saying “counter him”? Because despite multiple meta reports, and his banner debut, you have NEVER, not ONCE, given us a solid explanation on how to take him down. Instead you just say “I know it SEEMS impossible to take him down, but he can be”, and you never elaborate. Honestly I’d argue he’s far worse than Valentine Lyon because at the BARE minimum you could at least kill Valentine Lyon. For Emblem ike, you have to stack so much damage that you either have to run AoE and PRAY that the Ike player doesn’t bring Godot (in which you’re screwed because your AoE damage goes to 0), run burn damage and hope the Ike player doesn’t run breath of life 4 (in which you get 0 burn damage and lose), or you just give up. I need you to properly explain in detail a 100% consistent method of taking on Emblem Ike that has BoL 4 support (in his C), Gotoh Support, stone terrain, and emblem Celica ring. And please try to make it as free to play as possible.
You’re reading the tiering wrong. Attuned Peony isn’t Tier Zero as a unit. She’s Tier Zero as a fodder factory. There is an ungodly amount of fodder you can give to her as a melee unit, and fliers have a TON of new great C skills that both will and have been phenominal. Even her Echo skill is amazing, as literally every single unit in the game besides cavalry and armors can not only learn it, but use it well. There’s better Echo skills, of course, but most of them are far more limited in who would actually want it. Echo skills like Null-C is better… but the only units who want Null-C are tanks. In the same vein, Far Trace is excellent… but only ranged fliers and cavs can even equip it (and that’s ignoring the amount of units who already have canto innately)
Micaiah beginning the video and Ike ending it is such a full circle moment. Tellius simply is superior
True
I’m being held against my will and @Oblivionknight has taken over the channel 🥸
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Daein and crimea menaces
*looks for Nergal* Why is he not here?! This unit is disgusting in AR-D and absolutely broken in SD.
Definitely feels like Nergal deserves a top 5 spot more than Winter Edelgard. Edelgard is still a great Galeforcer, and she's my favorite unit, but Nergal is just better. Stealing a whole teams buffs and providing healing from Essence Drain is just too good.
Nergal stealing Heiorun's healing buffs is so broken
Agreed he literally got better also with the recent mythic banner he can literally steals heidrun divine nectar effect and throw back at her like uno reverse 😭
In terms of impact, while it is true that Nergal is good, he had less of an impact on the game than the others. He’s awesome and I can tell you that we almost did a top 10 instead so we could talk about him, but before we got Nergal we got Tina and we also got Mythic Loki around that time. Stealing buffs or removing them wasn’t the most Meta shifting development, and even if it was, Nergal wasn’t the first to do it.
Winter Edelgard revived what had been a mostly dead offense archetype and made it not only accessible, but so common that you had to start slotting in defense units in the hope that they could survive her. It is true that she has slowed down a step, but current performance isn’t the point of the video.
I agree with the opinions of other players here.
It's true W! Edelgard is very comfortable to use, but more comfortable in the attacking phase than in defense.
Meanwhile, Nergal was good in both phases.
With the arrival of BoF4 & Heiðrún, V! Lyon is down! He is only useful on his duo skill. No more attacks
In my opinion:
1. E! Ike (u know why)
2. A! Micaiah (i hate this unit very much)
3. F! Nergal (too tanky)
4. Y! F! Robin (very annoying debuff)
5. W! Edelgard (still mobility and hard nuke) 😊
Just a heads up, magical units don't have access to Prime skills and Emblem Ike has no piercable DR in his kit, all coming from Flat DR and Special DR
Personally I'd use Nergal or Celica over marth as the honorable mentions. Giving extra -1 to old units is nice, arena is borderline unplayable because of celica ring and Nergal is very strong in every game mode.
I think it is mainly because like 98% of units want the Marth Ring and they can use it in any team. There are many other ways to remove buffs from enemies or warp, and they are not universally useful effects.
@@illialidur8244 I'd argue that not that many units want marths ring. First off all brave units get penalised, but also most meta units have their special cd either at 1 already so it does nothing, or they have some way to get it every combat so it just makes them a little more consistent.
Celicas ring isn't just the warping, it's also free damage which IS universally useful, not to mention how very few warping effects allow up to 4 spaces of warping so celicas ring still has benefits on those who already warp.
VLyon the FEdelgard of 2024? that's a strange comparison imo, FEdelgard was much more comparable to EIke since they share the same role: mainly omnitanks in AR-O or annoying damage sponges in AR-D, sure she fell off quicker but her popularity outlasted her meta viability and the same is gonna happen to EIke, unlike VLyon that's just another bonkers but frail nuke.
VMyrr should've been an honorable mention at the very least tho, pretty good list regardless.
Why he compares VLyon and Fall Edel is cause they got stuff that counter their meta time.... Like Lyon his chip damage legit got nerfed by Breath of Life 4 while Edelgard it was dodge skills or units that breaks her prf while as well as damage reduction peircing
yeah its weird, Lyon dies to any unit that starts the combat against him, he is nothing like Fallen Edelgard, Emblem Ike is the modern Fallen Edelgard.
@@andresfgp13 Emblem ike as in New meta yeah. But at the same time he didn't fall off like Edelgard but V Lyon did
Really the thing about Fedel was her mixed phasing, she was exceptional in both phases.
Ike is just really bulky but his offense has some weird and funny flaws, while Lyon is defensively nothing special at all but if he attack he’s super evil.
I think Fedel during her prime was a bigger problem than Ike is now, just Ike for some reason is just getting more tools while Fedel got crept relatively more quickly I think.
@samkeiser9776 Yeah and it's a bit unfair to say she fell off as soon as she wasn't the strongest tank, when in reality FEdel adapted to be a more mixed phase tank and that gave her even more longevity, I don't think EIke has that same flexibility and as soon IS releases real counters to him, he'll probably drop off the meta just as Brave Ike did, being used as a counter meta pick at most.
My guesses prior to watching the video and by only looking at the title.
1. Buff stealers ( nergal and mythic loki )
2. Attuned micaiah
3. Emblem Ike
4. Emblem celica
5. Breath of life 4 and laguz friend ( I know it’s not a unit but I see it so often it might as well be )
When you said you had to clean up the video I expected you to include fomortiis in the end turn units how could you.
@@cjsomebody2625 Not gen 8
@@nothingbasic8147 Seidr is also not gen 8 and she was included.
Fomortiis is dead to me since the 15.5% debacle ☠️
you forgot that Fomo also ends turns
He likes to pretend Fomortiis isn’t real
Thanks for this. Respectfully, d.Lyon wasn’t the incarnation of f!Edelgard. Ever since B!Lyn there have been scary ranged cavs but the strategy is always wait until the AI overextends and then run up and ORKO them (except in Summoner Duels, so for that mode you may be right. But in Arena he’s nerfed, since cavs have a very hard time on those maps). That would never work with f!Edelgard. You had to know her (1 or 2) weaknesses and build a unit that could counter it. And if you didn’t have that counter ready, she would mow down your entire team. E!Ike is the exact same way. In my experience, only N!Igrene can kill him out of the box consistently. For those of us who don’t have her, we need to come in with a plan, usually involving a blue mage AoE.
Emblem marth made so many cool combos
Honourable mention for Emmeryn, but she isn't more meta because: a) people don't know how good she is or b) don't have her in the 1st place
It's such a peak cinema how the video started with Micaich and ended with Ike gosh Tellius is so peak!!
Also why no Nergal he literally so broken in every mode and he gets better and better as recently thanks to heidrun he can steal her divine nectar status and uno reverse that thing on her and the enemies lol it's so funny he genuinely a menace tbh.
I'd replace edelgard she isn't even close to be like the others mentioned it should have been Nergal and honestly even duo SharVero is better than her tbh.
Yeah but the point is the impact they had. Edelgard revived a mostly dead archetype in Galeforce, Nergal and Sharena didn’t do anything as meta shifting as that
Emblem Celica has massively changed AR, both offense and defense. She enables strategies that were pipe dreams before. If you really write her off as being just another warp fiend, then you need to dream bigger.
You can also use her ring quite well in arena. Like you say, Emblem Heroes are very F2P friendly.
And as much as I love Christmas Edelgard, that unit is just an upgrade on an already existing archetype. E!Celica enables play that wasn't possible before.
Eirika and Caeda really should be slotted on the fodder factory list
Marth is my favourite character, so I’ll always love him and his versions, and while obviously I’ll always have a special place for Caeda, I never expected for one minute to enjoy using her as much as I have done since her release. And she’s only gotten better since Gust and Null C echo! The only other unit that I’ve had such a blast with, has been Nergal. So fun to pass out his bonus to the team.
Other units I’ve loved since CYL7 have been Brave Soren, Ascended Merric, and obviously Emblem Ike but that’s a boring pick lol
Man is there any version of Edelgard besides the first one that wasn’t super annoying ?
Nergal not being on here whilst Winter Edelgard is on here is wild.
I agree with the list (although I might have replaced WEdelgard with BSharena, but I understand why you kept her instead). Two things though: DAltina also has scowl and EIke has no pierceable DR.
I agree with the opinions of other players here.
It's true W! Edelgard is very comfortable to use, but more comfortable in the attacking phase than in defense.
Meanwhile, Nergal was good in both phases.
With the arrival of BoF4 & Heiðrún, V! Lyon is down! He is only useful on his duo skill. No more attacks
In my opinion:
1. E! Ike (u know why)
2. A! Micaiah (i hate this unit very much)
3. F! Nergal (too tanky)
4. Y! F! Robin (very annoying debuff)
5. W! Edelgard (still mobility and hard nuke) 😊
Understandable that you hate facing Attuned Micaiah. Me personally I hate facing against Duo Robin.
@@davidtorres454 The penetration of her was very painful, it could penetrate my aegis Heiðrún. Not logical, besides that it can neutralize 2 debuffs
@@davidtorres454 The penetration of her was very painful, it could penetrate my aegis Heiðrún. Not logical, besides that it can neutralize 2 debuffs
On the "bonus stacking" part, I think you mixed Mythic Veyle and Legendary Female Alear.
Good video btw! love these analysis
I’m scared of what we’re getting next year if this is what we’re already dealing with now.
Bridal Lapis has to be my favorite unit from this year. Love the character and love the weapon effect!
Edward base kit + hardy bearing is extremely effective against Ikes tho
Winter Yunaka by far my fave. Started saving for her once Engage came out.
The scariest part, this list will probs change before the year is up 🤩🤩🤩
Idk if these two are already outdated but Summer Edelgard and Summer Caeda are my favorites😭😭
I just don’t know if they’re viable or even usable right now
I'd say usable if with investment
@@leoaltivez7161 summer edelgard isn’t viable anymore?
Probably would have changed the order (Edelgard 5th and the others going one forward), but overall I can agree with those 5, despite I probably would have put someone else like Nergal or the new Heidrún (which is probably just to new by now) over Edelgard completely, but I can understand that with what it feels like half of FEHTubers are absolute Galeforce cracks, so it’s alright. :)
Micaiah, Duo Robin, Duo Lyon and Ike I fully agree with.
My top 5
Attuned Micaiah
Nergal
Duo Robin
Duo Lyon
Emblem Ike
Honorable mentions
Celica
Duo Sharena
Surprise pick M Alear
Emblem Ike: I am supreme 😂
My max investment hesita with arcane euphoria and blazing wind:🗿
Not really relevant to the video but it's always cool to hear Y's music in the background ❤️🎶👌
Max invest F! Ike spd/def unity, LG4, BoF4, ncd e with gust and E! Ike ring can survive most things with grand strategy support. Only two he really fears is Loki and Nergal
Seeing #5 on this list made me so happy. Such a fun unit :)
My favourite unit is emblem Marth and second favourite is normal female Alear
> Not having Celica as part of the honorable mention.
Tellius the top of the game where it belongs
Dup Seiðr and Duo Gullveig because favoritism (Watched the rest of the video and Duo Gullveig is in T0 Galeforce!!!!!! Tysm Joel!!!!!
Also nahh M!Alear is not in omnitank tier list…
Would’ve included Heiðrún on the list action economy go brrr)
If we’re talking serious rankings, Legendary M!Corrin!
Just kidding, Duo Robin, so I think ny 250 orbs investment on Robin in next DSH seems worth it.
Also bro forgot to mention Duo Robin’s button is in 7x7 area making it the best button of gen 8 behind duo lyon.
Ike is even better than you said actually bc none of his damage reduction is pierceable. He's insane and I immediately forfeit any time he shows up in voting gauntlets.
Unless I'm using my own +10 E!Ike in the voting gauntlet the
Not a top 5 character but Bridal Embla is my favorite :p
I need to stop using Emblem Ike though I’m new and he wins so many match ups it’s hard to learn anything other than “just use Ike”. When you’re trying to learn the basics abilities and what they do in practice.
Bro Emblem Ike is strong like bro wtf... Im scare when Emblem Byleth, Corrin, Lyn and Hector, Veronica and Trio three houses emblem
For me the most toxic unit this year is Tina. I hate the buff stealing from infinite range
What is the E Ike build that is securing all those W’s? Mine usually loses to Celica and Micaiah… haha
default, but swap C skill to Breath of life 4,
Then have an ally with divine vein stone.
It's a fight for second lol. Emblem Ike is clearly going to be first.
Honestly I would have replaced Edelgard with Nergal, shes super strong but not unbeatable anymore while nergal is SUPER annoying to face
It’s not about the current strength, it’s more about the meta impact the units had. For sure Nergal is strong and you have to plan for his presence on a team, but Edelgard reinvented Galeforcing in a super accessible way.
Look at previously bad units like legendary female corrin and legendary seliph climb their way a ladder to be compared to the Omni tank of the game shows they had justice done to them
I like micaiah definitely my favorite from this top 5 😊.
While I don’t think E!Celica is top 5 unit wise (def top 10), she prolly should be top 5 in general with her ring. Arena is becoming annoying with her ring effect, she is annoying with warp in AR-D and SD becomes more of a nuisance in terms of planning
Haven’t watched the video yet. Betting Emblem Ike is on top of the list.
Watched the video. I knew it was gonna be him. The only thing crazier than Emblem Ike is that precedent says he won’t be in the top 8 of AHR early next year 😅
I would be interested in a top F2P units to build including demotes and grails.
My favorite unit is duo robin :D
Im tired beyond exhaustion of seeing Ike everywhere. He is a pest thats ruining the game for me, not because I cant beat him (got -0 defense this week) but because it is so freaking boring when every-single-match is a copy paste of the previous one.
Emblem Ike T-1
Emblem celica/marth T-0
W T F ?
That is specifically their emblem ring effects.
Are you EVER going to create a video to tell us HOW to counter Ike instead of saying “counter him”? Because despite multiple meta reports, and his banner debut, you have NEVER, not ONCE, given us a solid explanation on how to take him down. Instead you just say “I know it SEEMS impossible to take him down, but he can be”, and you never elaborate.
Honestly I’d argue he’s far worse than Valentine Lyon because at the BARE minimum you could at least kill Valentine Lyon. For Emblem ike, you have to stack so much damage that you either have to run AoE and PRAY that the Ike player doesn’t bring Godot (in which you’re screwed because your AoE damage goes to 0), run burn damage and hope the Ike player doesn’t run breath of life 4 (in which you get 0 burn damage and lose), or you just give up.
I need you to properly explain in detail a 100% consistent method of taking on Emblem Ike that has BoL 4 support (in his C), Gotoh Support, stone terrain, and emblem Celica ring. And please try to make it as free to play as possible.
heirun about to be the most toxic
Me seeing a +10 Emblem Ike in AR-D: Oh no! *pulls out my unmerged base kit neutral IV Emblem Celica* anyways...
Hey
Emblem units were a mistake.
Emblem Celica kinda broke the game ngl
Attuned Peony is not Tier Zero. She’s Mid☠️💀
You are lying to yourself
You’re reading the tiering wrong. Attuned Peony isn’t Tier Zero as a unit. She’s Tier Zero as a fodder factory. There is an ungodly amount of fodder you can give to her as a melee unit, and fliers have a TON of new great C skills that both will and have been phenominal. Even her Echo skill is amazing, as literally every single unit in the game besides cavalry and armors can not only learn it, but use it well. There’s better Echo skills, of course, but most of them are far more limited in who would actually want it. Echo skills like Null-C is better… but the only units who want Null-C are tanks. In the same vein, Far Trace is excellent… but only ranged fliers and cavs can even equip it (and that’s ignoring the amount of units who already have canto innately)