Also I'm amazed you did this list without Tales of Symphonia. Infamously, it's 60FPS on GC, but 30FPS on PS2. Because the PS2 had bonus content, all subsequent ports have been based on that code and locked at 30FPS, both on PS3 and PC. Devastating.
@@thunderknightgames8112 what more information about it do you think that they want or need from me if it's personal information I'm sorry but that's off limits to me anyway🤔☀️
Wanna make fun of an idiot child? I'm happy to oblige. I was an N64 fanboy back in the day and eagerly awaited the arrival of the Gamecube with all my pennies saved up in anticipation. Until that is, they decided to delay it's release by a few months and I immediately abandoned all brand loyalty, marched myself down to the local Game and bought a shiny new PS2. What followed was a smorgasbord of gaming thanks to a healthy library of titles and facilitated by an obscenely generous trade-in infrastructure. (Seriously, you kids today have no fucking clue!) Then my mate got a Gamecube with Smash Bros Melee, and I immediately abandoned all sense, marched myself back down to Game and traded in my PS2, a Billy bookcase worth of games, accessories and DVDs, and in return got a Gamecube with a single game and a memory card. What followed was a... well, it was nice... it was a decent platter, with a few high-quality offerings. Spaced out. with a lot of empty space on the table. It was, tidy. Luckily my mum must have noticed the decline in my usual ebullience, and without me even having to ask bought me a shiny new PS2 that very Christmas. And that was the story of my biggest videogame-related mistake. Until Xmas '07 when I specifically requested the HD DVD add-on for the 360, some 10 days before Warner Bros would announce it's demise by dropping support for the format. Coincidentally one day after my birthday, for which I had spent all my money on HD DVDs.
I did find that when HD-DVD "failed" you could then get the few HD-DVDs that had been released at much lower prices. Shops were practically giving them away. In the end the winner wasn't Blu Ray but streaming, I've watched loads of 1080p movies but none on blu-ray. All thanks to streaming.
HD-DVD was the superior format, because it could have a regular DVD on the other side of the disc. So if you bought a PS3, you could only watch the movie on your PS3. Not on your portable DVD player, not on your computer, not in the other bedroom, not at your friend's house.
@@oddfox6776 But both PS5 and the Xbox Series offer an option without a disc drive. And the highest selling console (Switch) doesn't use discs at all with most sales being digital downloads.
@@Treblaine im talking about the past, blu rays dominated the market. As a plus cartridges sell a lot for the switch. Even if downloads are higher 140 million users will most likely have a few games on physical
The Game Cube graphically was better than the PS2, but at the end of the day it’s all in who had better games. BTW I got soul calibur on GC, the best version out of the 3.
@@codytravers123 San Andreas wasn't an exclusive nor did it come from Sony's studios. It was also on Xbox. Nintendo lost the N64 and the GC due to giving third party the finger. They had much more talented studios but their problem was that they relied solely on them. Smash bros., Zelda, Mario platformers, Metroid, those where the top franchises of that gen. Sony had good games like Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper and God of War, but the edge was still on Nintendo. However, take away third party and the PS2 pulverizes them. Luckily they learned after Sony years.
My family owned all the consoles of that generation. I had GameCube and GBA, my brothers had PS2 and Xbox, and parents owned a PC. Of all the 3, the PS2 really didn't deserve to have THAT BIG of a lead over the others. Xbox in particular should have sold much better than it did, and the games industry as a whole had a grudge against Nintendo that undermined everything good they tried to do - despite the small discs and lack of online.
Back in those days I always told my pals in school that the gamecube was the more powerfull console in comparison to the PS2 ( I even had the PS2 ). The thing that shocked me the most was the very fact, which is mentioned and shown in this video, that many games worked way smoother. The prime example for me was Turok-Evolution. It runs and plays just way, WAAAY better on the Gamecube, like many titles. I owned Turok-Evolution for the PS2, but when I saw that my friend bought the same game for his Gamecube, I instantly recognized the difference. I mean, like damn!
The only thing the Gamecube really had a disadvantage with over the PS2 was its storage medium. The discs could only carry 1.5GB of data, and certain big open world games that relied heavily on the large space of a full-sized DVD would be tricky to port to the Gamecube, even if it shipped on multiple discs. Think if GTA San Andreas were ported to the Gamecube and whenever you went from one side of the map to the other you had to switch discs to allow it to load.
That's a reasonable assumption but due to technical bottlenecks it didn't matter. The problem was the system memory / RAM of PS2 which was only 32MB, even a single-layer DVD could hold 140x as much as the RAM could hold. If you have 4500GB of assets, how do you get it all into the RAM? Gamecube had about 50% more RAM but even then to load all the assets into system-memory they had to be small which limited the size on disc to about what the Gamecube had. Another factor was compression, assets have to be compressed somewhat as raw texture and audio files are massive, and compression technology was rapidly advancing. Even if you had a huge disc capacity it was worth compressing because smaller files could be read quicker and with better compression tech they could be decompressed faster or used in memory in their compressed form. You definitely could have fit GTAIII and Vice City on a Gamecube Disc because we can just read their size on PS2 discs and see it's smaller than GC's max capacity, it would have been a challenge to fit San Andreas on a GC disc but nowhere near as hard as fitting Resident Evil 2 on an N64 cartridge. San Andreas is huge for the same reason MGS1 needed 2 CDs: loads of poorly compressed audio. But it's quite easy to stream audio off a disc so just use the extra space. I know it seems strange when even PS1 games were taking up multiple CDs but this was overwhelmingly due to pre-rendered video cutscenes which were poorly compressed. Compression tech means you can now fit a 90 minute 1080p video on a CD and it looks just as good as a Blu Ray. Blu Ray uses ancient compression codecs from when the standard was set in the mid 2000s. The trend continued into 7th gen, the Xbox 360 repeatedly beat PS3 in performance even for huge games like GTA4 because the limit was far more on the system RAM which limited the size of assets and hence the overall size of the game so it would fit on a DVD just fine. I think the main appeal of DVD drive was to drive sales of PS2, I got my parents to buy me one simply because "DVD is replacing VHS and this can play DVD movies so it's basically the family DVD player" this got so many PS2 consoles into peoples homes.
Fake news. The PS2 library dwarfed that of the LameCube and X-for-no-games-Box, with more options to work with via the controller, thus multiple more advantages for PS2. You exhibit fake gamer energy.
Nintendo, once again, was more worried about piracy than 3rd party support. They got burned with piracy on the Famicom Disk System, so they cancelled the Super Nintendo disc drive, skipped discs for N64, used a tiny disc for Gamecube. For the Wii it made no sense to add a CD laser just to play audio CDs, since they didn't have any older generation games on CD.
I remember frustratingly having to wait an extra three weeks for the launch of the Gamebube version of Timesplitters 2 as it was a vastly superior port to the PS2's
@@revenge1205 The PS2's awful motion blur is enough to make it the worst port. I know, I own Timesplitters on Xbox and PS2. Or as I call them. Timesplitters Xbox version, and Timesplitters dust collectors edition.
someone might've commented this already, but fun fact: the developer of nesticle went on to work at ea, and internally, the snes emulator in fight night round 2 is referred to as snesticle
@@Bransfiiiield it's a great tidbit. source is here, it's a good read: www.vice.com/en/article/9a48z3/the-story-of-nesticle-the-ambitious-emulator-that-redefined-retro-gaming
But when it comes the time to compare DS vs PSP graphics or PS4 vs Switch all Nintendo fanboys suddenly say that graphics doesn't matter. Oh well... If it's all about graphics then Xbox ruled that generation.
And I quote: "if this were straightforward and looking at better graphics and frame rates as a ‘win’ condition, we’d be here all day because most games released on both formats ran better on Gamecube. Thing is, though, I’m not Digital Foundry, so in the most part I don’t care about that." So where've you got this being all about the graphics from? Because I want to visit this magical land of Things That Weren't Said.
at the end ps2 had the better library god of war 1 and 2 Metal gear solid 2 and 3 Prince of Persia trilogy Grand theft auto trilogy Devil may cry 1 and 3 Ominusha series Splinter cell series Okami beyond good and evil Bully Shadow of the colossus Ratchet & Clank Trilogy Jak & Daxter Trilogy X-Men Legends 1 and 2 Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 and 2 Spiderman 2 and Ultimate Spiderman Lord of Rings Third Age,Two Towers and Return of the King Final Fantasy 10 and 12 Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 Persona 3 and 4 Dark cloud 1 and 2 Shadow Hearts Covenant Dragon Quest 8 Rogue Galaxy Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 Tales of the Abyss Black Medal of Honor Trilogy Suikoden Trilogy TimeSplitters Series Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2 Half-Life Red Faction Killzone Call of Duty Series SOCOM Series Need for Speed Series Gran Turismo 3 and 4 Burnout Series Midnight Club Trilogy Winning Eleven Series NBA Street Trilogy SSX Series Tony Hawk Series Ace Combat Series Soulcalibur 2 and 3 Tekken Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi Trilogy Resident Evil 4 SIlent Hill Series Fatal Frame Series gamecube library has Mario Sunshine Metroid Prime 1 and 2 Zelda: The Wind Waker and Tiwlight Princess Super Smash Bross Melee Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes Skies of Arcadia Mario Kart Double Dash Soulcalibur 2 Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance F-Zero GX Eternal Darkness: Sanity Requiem Tales of Symphonia Star Wars: Rogue Scuadron 2 and 3 TimeSplitters Series Beyond Good and Evil Prince of Persia Trilogy Need for Speed Series Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 Luigi Mansion Tony Hawk Series SSX3 AND SSX Tricky Resident Evil 4 and Remake Nba Street Trilogy Baldurs Gate 1 Spiderman 2 and Ultimate Spiderman Lord of the Rings Series Gamecube library is great but PS2 is just the goat library but if that is not enough,its can also can play ps1 games while gamecube cant play 64 games
Ps2 also has Klonoa 2 Rayman 2 revolution Champions of norrath 1,2 Sly Cooper 1,2,3 Atv 1,2,3,4 Virtua fighter 4 R-type final The bouncer Urban reign Contra shattered soldier The punisher Justice league Silpheed the lost planet Zone of the enders war of the monsters Flatout 1,2 Jak x combat Ratchet deadlocked Splashdown 1,2 Metal slug anthology and hundreds of other games.
Even tough it didn't sell as many consoles as the ps2, everyone loved the gamecube. The console was just so likable, there's not a single person who _hates_ the gamecube. (or they would be lying).
They're*. Aside from that, yeah. Cube was that little box that could. It's that cute little fluffy pet that tries its best and you love it all the more for its spirit.
Nowadays, the Gamecube is well liked but back when it was new I remember a lot of people were disappointed by it. People wanted Nintendo to grow up with their aging customers but instead we got a purple cube with mini discs. It looked like a toy. Teenage me was very happy with my PS2 lol
It's funny, whenever I see old Gamecube games in motion, I always think how the console looks *better* than I remember the 6th Gen being. But, really, that's because the PS2 was so dominant that it's easy to forget that it was really kind of crap compared to the GC. (Or the XBox.) Hell, run some of the best GC games like Rogue Squadron through an upscaler to improve the render resolution, and they really hold up.
I'm pretty sure sony KNEW the ps2 would kill the competition if it had a dvd player, so they made sure to put that shit in and had to tame the graphics a bit to fit budget. Gamecube is the true gamer console and would've been an ace had the Ps2 not existed.
@@thealgorithmisbroken I think you're right. I got XBOX and my brother got PlayStation 2, but I'm pretty sure if the PlayStation 2 didn't have the DVD player, I would have been able to convince my brother to get a Gamecube instead! Gosh, the glory of having XBOX _and_ Gamecube at the same time back then would have been immense!
@@soupfor2069 Gamecube had sharper graphics. PS2 had horrible aliasing. If I remember correctly the PS2 could do some stuff better like particles. Some gamecube games had to cut sounds out because of the lack of storage space on the smaller discs. It's a wash. Xbox was superior but low ownership in Japan meant the PS2 had a bigger audience and hence many exclusives.
I'm glad we got so many remasters. So many of these amazing games got better on other consoles. Yes, we want new games butnif youre gonna replay RE4 today, we have many options and the remake is amazing. So many never did and sometimes I wish I had a beefy PC to run emulators to remaster some games ourselves. Seen some great things with PS2 nowadays. Only issue is when content is missing compared to another version.
Let's be honest, a lot of the PlayStation 2 sales came from people wanting to buy it because it played DVDs, and the PlayStation 2 is significantly cheaper than a DVD player at that time.
*Nearly all* PS2 sales stemmed from that reason. As a result it became the safest and most profitable platform for any developer (and boy, do I mean any and every) to shovel a game onto. There are some games that deserved to be on the GameCube since it was more than capable, but there are some games by certain companies that thankfully never made it to any other console...
And last, but not least, it has a better library than GC. Be honest, PS2 is considered one of the top 3 console games of every time, instead GC isn't even in the top 10.
Dude it’s literally visual fact that the GC beat the PS2 many times. By your dumb logic RE4 looks better on GameCube like bruh it’s been almost 20 years just accept that GC and especially Xbox killed the ps2 on a power perspective.
You had me up until 6:42. Those extras were not crap at all and if I had to choose between a poorer image and the extras or better image and no extras, I'll take the former.
Need for Speed Underground was not 60 frames on ANY platform including the XBOX. All versions targeted 30 frames. I used to have the GC version of Underground and it did not play as well as the PS2 version.
I agree, not that the GC version of Underground runs bad, but it looks terrible and I haven't noticed that it runs any better for it. I think the XBOX version is the definitive console release.
NFS Underground doesn't run at 60 fps on any 6th gen console. The framerate is uncapped and sometimes it runs with a little more then 30 fps. That's it. No 60 fps unfortunately.
True, but it's only uncapped on GC, So when you use Wii and Nintendont you can sometimes match 60FPS(~45FPS), like in this video. GC max. 45FPS(~30FPS).
Thank you for the video. I feel your pain on the price of the expansions. I managed to track them down for regular store prices in the beginning of 2018, but it was already a fluke at that point. The second-hand market prices are insane.
Aside from the inclusion of Link (which was absolutely fantastic), I believe I read that the GC version of Soul Calibur 2 ran the best with better framerates and stuff. I do know that the PS2 version does not run well at all. This to me is hilarious as the original arcade version was on Namco System 246/256 hardware, which is pretty much PS2 hardware. It kinda baffles me that Namco couldn't make the PS2 version run well.
Fast forward to today, and people are defending Nintendo cutting Paper Mario TTYD's frame rate in half for the Switch remake... It's like getting a PS2 port of TTYD, only with prettier graphics for once.
There are definitely games I own on PS2 ONLY because the Gamecube didn’t get the entire series. Time Splitters never released on the cube so I felt like I had to get the trilogy in the PS2. The Fellowship of the Ring (and Aragorn’s Quest I suppose) were on PS2 but not Cube (I mention Aragorn’s Quest that way because I technically have it on PS3 but it was available on 2). I’m sure there are others but those are the series that come to mind first
We see this even today, xbox hardware is more powerful than ps4, but ps4 beat the sales. Just like the ol days when ps2 beat the sales. This means hardware is not so important. Just look at nintendo switch. Will you say that its hardware can compete against xbox? No! But still it beats xbox like nothing.
@@adstoppedworking4773 The switch is a fucking toaster compared to xbox. I can't count how many games that were ported to switch and completely sucked ass
Top quality vid sir, as always. Also, there is nothing wrong with your pronunciation of SNES. However, as a fellow Brit, I almost spit out my tea when I heard you say Dragon Ball Zee. It’s Dragon Ball Zed. Just like the song Sharp Dressed Man was by the band ZedZed Top.
The NGC was a great machine, sadly missed out on a few games, so you were in need of a PS2 anyways, the exclusives on both sides were good.. Like the flavor of Gran Turismo, Rumble Roses, Ultraman Games, J-RPG and some Tale games on PS2,... NGC was great for first party games, like Metroid , Mario kart, and some multiport that were far better.. ah yes, still cannot forgive Namco for losing the original Tales of Symphonia files for NGC, all the ports have been based on the inferior 30 fps Ps2 version, which is a shame... doesn't move or look the same.
"Xbox got Spawn... nobody cared" Pshawwwwwwwwwwwwww!! Spawn was AWESOME! I enjoyed Spawn far more than Heihachi or Link :D Still, the GC itself was such a magnificent little machine, it didn't have the catalogue clout of the PS2 but the games it did have were genuinely awesome -- plus, hello? Skies of Arcadia Legends and Phantasy Star Online Episode I+II? HELL YES!
To me the only real reason people bought the PlayStation 2 was because it had a dvd player it was as much as a DVD player back in early 2000s had thew good exclusives but to me that all it had going for it GameCube to me had more fun games and was more powerful the only thing I see Nintendo at fault was the discs were small and you couldn't put as much memory on it like a ps2 or Xbox disc so 3nd party was lacking
The ps2 win the past console war because: 1. Superior marketing 2. DVD player 3. Easy modding and cheap illegal games 4. 3rd party support Gamecube was offered way much better gaming experience with better AAA games but Nintendo 's poor marketing and lack of 3rd party ruined the console..sad but true .
Do you know how many games Sony blocked from coming to the GameCube...Metal Gear 2-3, Onimusha 1-2, Devil May Cry series, Chaos Legion, Final Fantasy X God Hand also a remastered version of Dino Crisis that was being developed by Shinji Mikami team using the Resident Evil 0-1 engine. Sony blocked so many titles from the GameCube and XBOX
Sony was the new Nintendo. Doing everything Nintendo was doing in the 80s and 90s. Every one was on Sony d at the time. Dreamcast didn't get support either from studio s. Sony was overrated and still is. Never own a gamecube but my friend did. Nice posted.
You know where the PS2 beat the Gamecube 9/10 times nowadays? Pricing. Gamecube games are ridiculously overpriced even the multiplatform games. When you collect, it makes a big difference. That's why I have over 300 PS2 games and less than 30 Gamecube games. Hell, the only affordable Nintendo console to collect is the Wii (wii u is cheap too but Switch cannibalized almost all its exclusives and the library is too small).
ya then listen to this , why was the PS2 supposed to be 499 $??? and the gamecube at 199??. but for pricing of the games then i agree. console price is where i disagree
The GameCube was so much better but I guess "gamers" back then prefferred having a DVD player than, you know, and actually competent next-gen console with a better line-up of games. Quality over quantity.
No, I specifically said: "Also something to note: if this were straightforward and looking at better graphics and frame rates as a ‘win’ condition, we’d be here all day because most games released on both formats ran better on Gamecube. Thing is, though, I’m not Digital Foundry, so in the most part I don’t care about that. For the most part."
Not to mention Sega Soccer Slam. On GC it was a very good multiplayer soccer game. On PS2 on the other hand ... Well different studio developed the PS2 port and it was shitty
It's obviously, better hardware better games, at leas in the technical aspect of it, still even i played all the big shots, and some hidden gems, not GC or Xbox have something like we see in God of War 2, technically talking of course Nice video thou the obviously reasons that Xbox and Gamecube where a little far ahead from PS2 in hardware
Ps2 has overall 2,218 games GameCube over 300 lol I’m not biased I have a modded Xbox , ps2 and GameCube and I had my fun with DOR 1 & 2. But the SVR series are good . The GTa series .
Can you Do the Times where some PS2 Games Beats the GameCube Version in Comparison? Titles like: Capcom vs Snk 2, SSX Tricky, SSX 3, Def Jam: Fight for NY, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2, Tony Hawk's Series (Pro Skater 3-4, Underground 1-2, and American Wasteland), Madden NFL Series (2002-08), FIFA Soccer (2002-07), NBA Streets Vol. 2, NFL 2K3, Hitman 2, Freedom Fighters, Finding Nemo, Crash Bandicoot The Wrath of Cortex, Need for Speed Underground 2, NCAA Football Series (2003-2005), Splinter Cell Series, Harry potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, True Crime: Streets of La, Mega Man Anniversary Collection and Mega Man X Collection Are Better on the PS2 than GameCube according to Websites. GameCube is Slightly powerful than PS2 Which benefits in others most games (Over PS2 Version) like: Sega Soccer Slam, Conflict Desert Storm (1-2), Vexx, MX Superfly, Turok Evolution, Pitfall: The Lost Expedition, Serious Sam: Next Encounter, The Simpsons Hit and Run, XIII (2003), Mega Man X Command Mission, Crash Nitro Kart, Sonic Riders, The Sims, The Sims Bustin out, and Medal of Honor: European Assault.
Yep, but with the PS2 usually being the lead development platform you'd be surprised how often differences between that and GC versions were minimal. This was an attempt to highlight games with bigger, more obvious differences between platforms.
@@Bransfiiiield Fair enough, makes sense. I’m actually doing a lot of emulation on my Steam Deck, so I also try to see whether GC or PS2 is the better platform. To my eye, PS2 seems more stable but GC has better graphics in general.
Remember when Nintendo used to make stronger hardware? Ever since the Wii came out, Nintendo cheaped out. And I agree that Resident Evil 4, Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2 and Killer 7 should've stayed GameCube exclusives.
Yo I'll never understand how after the crisp looking PS1 video output, the PS2 made everything look like death. Dreamcast which also came earlier looked much sharper and nicer too! Sony! Your business is audio and visual hardware, what happened? It really put me off the PS2 even at the time honestly. An interlaced nightmare. Yes there were plenty of good games on the PS2 but I never got on with the thing, or the mushroomy spongey analogues!
Yeah, the lack of any anti-aliasing on the PS2 was one of its biggest issues. If you REALLY want to see the difference, try playing Rez on both DC and PS2. It's amazing how much worse the PS2 version looks. Plus it somehow runs at a lower framerate despite the PS2 being more powerful than the DC.
@@jasonblalock4429 I know! I have them both. I think the PS2 version runs at 60 but with screen tearing, and the DC runs at 30 with vsync. But looks nicer on DC. I remember when Dead or Alive 2 came out, watching a demo on both machines in a games shop, and wondering why the PS2 version looked so rough!
had you forgot the business strategy? gamecube is stronger than ps2 but the price killed it. PS2 beat that with hard drive and network capability, and the adapter is still cheapter than gamecube one. A lot of hardware mod make ps2 stronger with 1TB save space. I belive the reason why GC failed is because they don't even exist at Asia except Japan !
@@jasonblalock4429 I get why people would prefer the DC version of Rez visually compared to PS2 (being able to use the DC mouse as a controller is a nice bonus too), but as far as your claim that the PS2 version “somehow runs at a lower framerate”... well, either you have no idea about frames, or you didn’t play Rez on PS2. Which one is it?
Well, there was Virtua Quest, but I don't know which system had the better version. I grew up with the GameCube version. If you wanted 3D fighters on GameCube, the Sonic Gems Collection has a port of Sonic Championship.
@@NewGabeOrder That games wasn't pushing any limits. I suspect Gamecube would have made Virtua Fighter arcade perfect or a 98 percent conversion. PS2 version was like 95 percent arcade perfect
I'm going to disagree with you on Viewtiful Joe. I loved the extra Dante mode it had and I didn't think the hiccups hurt it as much as you might imagine. But Monkey and RE4, yeah, cube is the way to go. The gamecube's left analog was absolutely divine with its precision and control. I loved it. So in a game where accuracy is important, like aiming that monkey ball or the red line of sight on RE4, it definitely has the edge. Yes, the PS2 version of RE4 had extra content on it and I bought it just to play it, you could definitely feel the difference jumping from the cube to the PS2. It was just looser in general. And, yes, I did try and toggle sensitivity settings. It helps a bit but, in the end, it really is the controller.
I would probably go for Viewtiful Joe 2 on GC over the PS2 version. Part 1 is better on PS2 because of Dante but I think the GC controller feels best for all Capcom 5 games.
Pac-Man World Rally had 4-player split screen not on PS2, Bloody Roar Extreme (the best Bloody Roar version) is Bloody Roar 3 but more refined, and Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life got a not-so-great port on PS2. Lastly, Sonic R has a four-player option not on PS2, and Sonic CD has the Japanese/PAL music if you import the Japanese GameCube version of the Sonic Gems Collection. Even if your PS2's modded, a Japanese PS2 console is required for the Japanese/PAL Sonic CD music to be played. Otherwise, the American music gets played instead.
The GameCube looks cool to me but that design did no favors for it. The Wii design was a better design to attract a general audience. It really is a shame because the GameCube was the last time Nintendo focused on power. The games were great. The graphics were amazing. But they made it a purple cube. That was a terrible idea
I remember the release of the GameCube clearly here. The purple colour put many people off, simple as that. Visually obvious hardware choices were wrong, small disc size and and lack of left shoulder button, meant developers had to make unnecessary changes to accommodate GameCube. I bought a silver GameCube in 2005 (which I still enjoy), and by that time GameCube was on its way down. Shame, because they did so many other things right.
You know whats funny?, my problem with the GameCube back in the day was that it was purple, now as an owner of two black ones I’m seeking to get a purple one because its just not a GameCube without the purple.
Ps2 had 13 years to get to it's 155 million sales. That's way more time than the average 5-6 console cycle. Wonder how many units the Gamecube would've sold if it also had 13 years?
Nowhere near as many. The PS2 sold more in its first year (25m) than the GC did in its six year lifetime (21.74m). I think you might be underestimating just how popular the PS2 was. In its last five years it sold about 25m consoles. Meaning in its first eight it sold *one hundred and thirty million*. Nothing else came close, nor would it have even with more time - the PS2 was a legitimate phenomenon.
@@Bransfiiiield It also sold as many as it did because it was a cheap dvd player at the time. I knew a few people back in the day that bought the ps2 to play movies because they were actually cheaper than a dedicated dvd player.
there is also Mortal Kombat Deception on Gamecube it was far better than the ps2 and Xbox despite the online wasn't presented also same with some Disney and Nickelodeon games
Only thing Deception on Gamecube had going for it was extra playable characters (Shao Kahn and Goro). In no other way was it a remarkable port. In fact, because the Gamecube controller was lacking in inputs, NRS had to map the new weapon pick-ups function to the C-stick.
I recently heard how it had better graphics and I felt dumb. I love learning all about video game history and thought it was less powerful. I lmew the Xbox was the most powerful of all and even had a better graphics card than anything you could buy off shelves, right? Something like that. At least at release. The only time it happened with consoles ever, iirc. So yeah, had to click on this video. Thank you for making it.
The ps2 version has better effects and textures, that makes sense having in mind that the lead drvelopment version arcade hardware was Basically a PS2 with double the ram.
NFL2K5, full replays at halftime/ between games ect. On cube and xbox Ps2 just had still pictures and viewer voice lines for the announcers. The differences between the cube/box version and the ps2 version are jarring
Nintendo proved that power does not sell consoles but games do. Although Gamecube was more powerful console the PS2 had way more games and the variety of games were great.
Yes, but the GameCube and Xbox had some pretty unique exclusives you just couldn’t find on the PS2. And a lot of PS2 ports struggled because they were designed for competing consoles. Yes, the PS2 was more popular and had a heaping of JRPGs. But the GameCube and Xbox had special kinds of uniqueness that set them apart.
@Saricubra yes it did but console makers don't care how well a system ages but how much money it makes them. I like my gamecube more but Sony made way more money than Nintendo in that generation
Just like today, the Playstation radicals talked so much shit about this graphically superior console that people believed it. Gamecube didn't sell as well because it didn't play DVD's. That was it's fault.
GC Medal of honor frontline had multiplayer. GC 007 AUF had multiplayer bots. GC Splinter cell ran at 60fps. The most important thing, you can easily emulate the entire GC library ( except for Rogue leaderII ) where as pcsx2 games are a lottery.
GameCube graphics > PS2. Just look at how great SSB Melee looked. Metroid Prime. Resident Evil 4. Twilight Princess. Soul Calibur II. But the fact that the PS2 had more games than both GC XB probably combined is what makes it superior.
I'm so very sorry but to me both were special in there own rights in there own ways not one over the other as you think it should be only one game so far from the n64 system was ported to the ps2 system and in honesty it's not half bad ether and that's rayman 2 I think they tried to redo the legend of zelda ocarina of time for gamecube but they forgot the buttons on a n64 aren't the same as gamecube but the graphics were perfect in my opinion because the original version has a b c and yellow and the gamecube has x y z plus yellow🤔
You just can't be objective. Fact is Gamecube was a better system for gamers, if only it had the library and support of the ps2. THe hardware was amazing compared to the PS2.
@@comdrive3865 all three systems stood the test of time I now have both a n64 and a ps2 system myself later I get the extra part I need to join them together as one then last but not least is another gamecube system to play the legend of zelda twilight spirit's it's just they missed one game out of over hundreds of games made I'd say that's a pretty good tract record for them🤔
@@comdrive3865 that's true in some cases it was interesting how they never put a disk tray on it to center the disk themselves(the gamecube system)the disk are half the size of a ps2 system game but the system itself has stood the test of time so something must be right to have it stand alone for so long🤔
@@nancyking-hoffman146 It's a real shame gamecube was written off as a kids toy early on. Maybe if it was painted all black, then it'd have more appeal. There was a huge stir about it, looking "toylike"
Please, more Gamecube content, my family is starving
Also I'm amazed you did this list without Tales of Symphonia. Infamously, it's 60FPS on GC, but 30FPS on PS2. Because the PS2 had bonus content, all subsequent ports have been based on that code and locked at 30FPS, both on PS3 and PC. Devastating.
i just spat on my monitor lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
What do you mean by starving for more information or for more food🤔
@@nancyking-hoffman146 I'm pretty sure there starving for more information
@@thunderknightgames8112 what more information about it do you think that they want or need from me if it's personal information I'm sorry but that's off limits to me anyway🤔☀️
I still kept my GameCube when I was 6.
Still got mine too....although I was not 6.
Wanna make fun of an idiot child? I'm happy to oblige.
I was an N64 fanboy back in the day and eagerly awaited the arrival of the Gamecube with all my pennies saved up in anticipation. Until that is, they decided to delay it's release by a few months and I immediately abandoned all brand loyalty, marched myself down to the local Game and bought a shiny new PS2.
What followed was a smorgasbord of gaming thanks to a healthy library of titles and facilitated by an obscenely generous trade-in infrastructure. (Seriously, you kids today have no fucking clue!)
Then my mate got a Gamecube with Smash Bros Melee, and I immediately abandoned all sense, marched myself back down to Game and traded in my PS2, a Billy bookcase worth of games, accessories and DVDs, and in return got a Gamecube with a single game and a memory card.
What followed was a... well, it was nice... it was a decent platter, with a few high-quality offerings. Spaced out. with a lot of empty space on the table. It was, tidy.
Luckily my mum must have noticed the decline in my usual ebullience, and without me even having to ask bought me a shiny new PS2 that very Christmas. And that was the story of my biggest videogame-related mistake.
Until Xmas '07 when I specifically requested the HD DVD add-on for the 360, some 10 days before Warner Bros would announce it's demise by dropping support for the format. Coincidentally one day after my birthday, for which I had spent all my money on HD DVDs.
I did find that when HD-DVD "failed" you could then get the few HD-DVDs that had been released at much lower prices. Shops were practically giving them away.
In the end the winner wasn't Blu Ray but streaming, I've watched loads of 1080p movies but none on blu-ray. All thanks to streaming.
HD-DVD was the superior format, because it could have a regular DVD on the other side of the disc. So if you bought a PS3, you could only watch the movie on your PS3. Not on your portable DVD player, not on your computer, not in the other bedroom, not at your friend's house.
@@Treblainethe thing is, blu rays are used in physical games. So they still won somehow lmao
@@oddfox6776 But both PS5 and the Xbox Series offer an option without a disc drive. And the highest selling console (Switch) doesn't use discs at all with most sales being digital downloads.
@@Treblaine im talking about the past, blu rays dominated the market. As a plus cartridges sell a lot for the switch. Even if downloads are higher 140 million users will most likely have a few games on physical
I had super monkey ball on the ps2 growing up im now immune to motion sickness even in vr games
The Game Cube graphically was better than the PS2, but at the end of the day it’s all in who had better games. BTW I got soul calibur on GC, the best version out of the 3.
Well the GameCube has better games so ye.
@Jailbreak Redemption - R.D GameCube has metroid prime 1 and 2, Zelda wind waker, Zelda Twilight Princess, pikmin, f-zero gx etc.
@@dirtydirtsgt4751 PS2 has san andreas 🤣🤣🤣
@@codytravers123 Have you played San Andreas in the past decade? Sure it was revolutionary for the time, but compared to the GC it’s aged like milk
@@codytravers123 San Andreas wasn't an exclusive nor did it come from Sony's studios. It was also on Xbox.
Nintendo lost the N64 and the GC due to giving third party the finger. They had much more talented studios but their problem was that they relied solely on them.
Smash bros., Zelda, Mario platformers, Metroid, those where the top franchises of that gen.
Sony had good games like Jak and Daxter, Sly Cooper and God of War, but the edge was still on Nintendo. However, take away third party and the PS2 pulverizes them. Luckily they learned after Sony years.
My family owned all the consoles of that generation. I had GameCube and GBA, my brothers had PS2 and Xbox, and parents owned a PC.
Of all the 3, the PS2 really didn't deserve to have THAT BIG of a lead over the others. Xbox in particular should have sold much better than it did, and the games industry as a whole had a grudge against Nintendo that undermined everything good they tried to do - despite the small discs and lack of online.
I played Prince of Persia Sands on Time on Gamecube, I loved it. Then I played it years later on PS2, and it was so bad, the image quality was awful
If you could tolerate GameCube resolutions, calling PS2 awful is a massive exaggeration lol
Back in those days I always told my pals in school that the gamecube was the more powerfull console in comparison to the PS2 ( I even had the PS2 ). The thing that shocked me the most was the very fact, which is mentioned and shown in this video, that many games worked way smoother. The prime example for me was Turok-Evolution. It runs and plays just way, WAAAY better on the Gamecube, like many titles. I owned Turok-Evolution for the PS2, but when I saw that my friend bought the same game for his Gamecube, I instantly recognized the difference. I mean, like damn!
Less graphics = faster framerate
Never had to worry about scratches either 😂 I think it had built in memory as well.
The only thing the Gamecube really had a disadvantage with over the PS2 was its storage medium. The discs could only carry 1.5GB of data, and certain big open world games that relied heavily on the large space of a full-sized DVD would be tricky to port to the Gamecube, even if it shipped on multiple discs. Think if GTA San Andreas were ported to the Gamecube and whenever you went from one side of the map to the other you had to switch discs to allow it to load.
Or they could’ve just made a mini gta game or something like vice/liberty city stories
@@EndTikTokandTwitter imagine if they ported vice city stories and liberty cities stories to gamecube... that woulda been cool.
That's a reasonable assumption but due to technical bottlenecks it didn't matter. The problem was the system memory / RAM of PS2 which was only 32MB, even a single-layer DVD could hold 140x as much as the RAM could hold. If you have 4500GB of assets, how do you get it all into the RAM? Gamecube had about 50% more RAM but even then to load all the assets into system-memory they had to be small which limited the size on disc to about what the Gamecube had.
Another factor was compression, assets have to be compressed somewhat as raw texture and audio files are massive, and compression technology was rapidly advancing. Even if you had a huge disc capacity it was worth compressing because smaller files could be read quicker and with better compression tech they could be decompressed faster or used in memory in their compressed form.
You definitely could have fit GTAIII and Vice City on a Gamecube Disc because we can just read their size on PS2 discs and see it's smaller than GC's max capacity, it would have been a challenge to fit San Andreas on a GC disc but nowhere near as hard as fitting Resident Evil 2 on an N64 cartridge. San Andreas is huge for the same reason MGS1 needed 2 CDs: loads of poorly compressed audio. But it's quite easy to stream audio off a disc so just use the extra space.
I know it seems strange when even PS1 games were taking up multiple CDs but this was overwhelmingly due to pre-rendered video cutscenes which were poorly compressed. Compression tech means you can now fit a 90 minute 1080p video on a CD and it looks just as good as a Blu Ray. Blu Ray uses ancient compression codecs from when the standard was set in the mid 2000s.
The trend continued into 7th gen, the Xbox 360 repeatedly beat PS3 in performance even for huge games like GTA4 because the limit was far more on the system RAM which limited the size of assets and hence the overall size of the game so it would fit on a DVD just fine.
I think the main appeal of DVD drive was to drive sales of PS2, I got my parents to buy me one simply because "DVD is replacing VHS and this can play DVD movies so it's basically the family DVD player" this got so many PS2 consoles into peoples homes.
Fake news. The PS2 library dwarfed that of the LameCube and X-for-no-games-Box, with more options to work with via the controller, thus multiple more advantages for PS2. You exhibit fake gamer energy.
Nintendo, once again, was more worried about piracy than 3rd party support. They got burned with piracy on the Famicom Disk System, so they cancelled the Super Nintendo disc drive, skipped discs for N64, used a tiny disc for Gamecube. For the Wii it made no sense to add a CD laser just to play audio CDs, since they didn't have any older generation games on CD.
I remember frustratingly having to wait an extra three weeks for the launch of the Gamebube version of Timesplitters 2 as it was a vastly superior port to the PS2's
GameCube version of TimeSplitters 2 is superior to the PS2 version? You sure about that man? GameCube didn’t have online support and system link.
How exactly?
@@revenge1205 The PS2's awful motion blur is enough to make it the worst port.
I know, I own Timesplitters on Xbox and PS2. Or as I call them.
Timesplitters Xbox version, and Timesplitters dust collectors edition.
someone might've commented this already, but fun fact: the developer of nesticle went on to work at ea, and internally, the snes emulator in fight night round 2 is referred to as snesticle
I hadn't heard that, and I love it.
@@Bransfiiiield it's a great tidbit. source is here, it's a good read: www.vice.com/en/article/9a48z3/the-story-of-nesticle-the-ambitious-emulator-that-redefined-retro-gaming
Who's that guy at the beginning of all your videos?
Soulcalibur II was the best 3D fighter of that gen and GameCube had the best version.
But when it comes the time to compare DS vs PSP graphics or PS4 vs Switch all Nintendo fanboys suddenly say that graphics doesn't matter. Oh well... If it's all about graphics then Xbox ruled that generation.
And I quote: "if this were straightforward and looking at better graphics and frame rates as a ‘win’ condition, we’d be here all day because most games released on both formats ran better on Gamecube. Thing is, though, I’m not Digital Foundry, so in the most part I don’t care about that."
So where've you got this being all about the graphics from? Because I want to visit this magical land of Things That Weren't Said.
@Jailbreak Redemption - R.D im a nintendo fanboy. abuse me as much as u want . i also agree the xbox had better looking games.
But the fanboy says graphics don't matter when the Gamecube graphics are better.
I miss my GameCube.
If you wish to bring gamecube back to your life try lukie game's on the internet I use them myself🤔
at the end ps2 had the better library
god of war 1 and 2
Metal gear solid 2 and 3
Prince of Persia trilogy
Grand theft auto trilogy
Devil may cry 1 and 3
Ominusha series
Splinter cell series
Okami
beyond good and evil
Bully
Shadow of the colossus
Ratchet & Clank Trilogy
Jak & Daxter Trilogy
X-Men Legends 1 and 2
Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1 and 2
Spiderman 2 and Ultimate Spiderman
Lord of Rings Third Age,Two Towers and Return of the King
Final Fantasy 10 and 12
Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2
Persona 3 and 4
Dark cloud 1 and 2
Shadow Hearts Covenant
Dragon Quest 8
Rogue Galaxy
Baldurs Gate 1 and 2
Tales of the Abyss
Black
Medal of Honor Trilogy
Suikoden Trilogy
TimeSplitters Series
Star Wars Battlefront 1 and 2
Half-Life
Red Faction
Killzone
Call of Duty Series
SOCOM Series
Need for Speed Series
Gran Turismo 3 and 4
Burnout Series
Midnight Club Trilogy
Winning Eleven Series
NBA Street Trilogy
SSX Series
Tony Hawk Series
Ace Combat Series
Soulcalibur 2 and 3
Tekken
Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi Trilogy
Resident Evil 4
SIlent Hill Series
Fatal Frame Series
gamecube library
has
Mario Sunshine
Metroid Prime 1 and 2
Zelda: The Wind Waker and Tiwlight Princess
Super Smash Bross Melee
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Skies of Arcadia
Mario Kart Double Dash
Soulcalibur 2
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
F-Zero GX
Eternal Darkness: Sanity Requiem
Tales of Symphonia
Star Wars: Rogue Scuadron 2 and 3
TimeSplitters Series
Beyond Good and Evil
Prince of Persia Trilogy
Need for Speed Series
Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon XD
Sonic Adventure 1 and 2
Luigi Mansion
Tony Hawk Series
SSX3 AND SSX Tricky
Resident Evil 4 and Remake
Nba Street Trilogy
Baldurs Gate 1
Spiderman 2 and Ultimate Spiderman
Lord of the Rings Series
Gamecube library is great but PS2 is just the goat library but if that is not enough,its can also can play ps1 games while gamecube cant play 64 games
You forgot tenchu
Ps2 also has
Klonoa 2
Rayman 2 revolution
Champions of norrath 1,2
Sly Cooper 1,2,3
Atv 1,2,3,4
Virtua fighter 4
R-type final
The bouncer
Urban reign
Contra shattered soldier
The punisher
Justice league
Silpheed the lost planet
Zone of the enders
war of the monsters
Flatout 1,2
Jak x combat
Ratchet deadlocked
Splashdown 1,2
Metal slug anthology
and hundreds of other games.
You forgot god hand
Twisted Metal: Black
so its still has trash graphics look like dirt
Even tough it didn't sell as many consoles as the ps2, everyone loved the gamecube.
The console was just so likable, there's not a single person who _hates_ the gamecube. (or they would be lying).
Nobody bought it for a reas9n...... what are you talking about?
They're*. Aside from that, yeah. Cube was that little box that could. It's that cute little fluffy pet that tries its best and you love it all the more for its spirit.
Also, the PS2 didn’t get Ikaruga. Poor souls.
@@heyhonpuds OTOH, Ikaruga would have looked terrible on the PS2. So it was lose-lose for them either way.
Nowadays, the Gamecube is well liked but back when it was new I remember a lot of people were disappointed by it. People wanted Nintendo to grow up with their aging customers but instead we got a purple cube with mini discs. It looked like a toy. Teenage me was very happy with my PS2 lol
It's funny, whenever I see old Gamecube games in motion, I always think how the console looks *better* than I remember the 6th Gen being. But, really, that's because the PS2 was so dominant that it's easy to forget that it was really kind of crap compared to the GC. (Or the XBox.) Hell, run some of the best GC games like Rogue Squadron through an upscaler to improve the render resolution, and they really hold up.
I'm pretty sure sony KNEW the ps2 would kill the competition if it had a dvd player, so they made sure to put that shit in and had to tame the graphics a bit to fit budget. Gamecube is the true gamer console and would've been an ace had the Ps2 not existed.
Ps2 was only dominant because it was on sale for 13 years and it was a cheap for the time dvd player.
And still make gaycube fans cry
@@thealgorithmisbroken I think you're right. I got XBOX and my brother got PlayStation 2, but I'm pretty sure if the PlayStation 2 didn't have the DVD player, I would have been able to convince my brother to get a Gamecube instead! Gosh, the glory of having XBOX _and_ Gamecube at the same time back then would have been immense!
There obviously isn't enough Dreamcast here.
Your intros look better on GameCube. Not too bad on PlayStation but Nintendo is where it's at.
playstation bettwr
@@soupfor2069 Gamecube had sharper graphics. PS2 had horrible aliasing. If I remember correctly the PS2 could do some stuff better like particles. Some gamecube games had to cut sounds out because of the lack of storage space on the smaller discs. It's a wash. Xbox was superior but low ownership in Japan meant the PS2 had a bigger audience and hence many exclusives.
@@jngx80 jesus christ it’s a joke dumbass
@@jngx80 look at my profile and the ps2 has better hardware lmao
@@soupfor2069 nah gamecube has very better graphic and fps and hardware
I'm glad we got so many remasters. So many of these amazing games got better on other consoles. Yes, we want new games butnif youre gonna replay RE4 today, we have many options and the remake is amazing. So many never did and sometimes I wish I had a beefy PC to run emulators to remaster some games ourselves. Seen some great things with PS2 nowadays. Only issue is when content is missing compared to another version.
Let's be honest, a lot of the PlayStation 2 sales came from people wanting to buy it because it played DVDs, and the PlayStation 2 is significantly cheaper than a DVD player at that time.
*Nearly all* PS2 sales stemmed from that reason. As a result it became the safest and most profitable platform for any developer (and boy, do I mean any and every) to shovel a game onto. There are some games that deserved to be on the GameCube since it was more than capable, but there are some games by certain companies that thankfully never made it to any other console...
And last, but not least, it has a better library than GC.
Be honest, PS2 is considered one of the top 3 console games of every time, instead GC isn't even in the top 10.
It had crazy variety in its games and third party support. Xbox also had a dvd and a better one with much better graphics and was crushed by PS2
@@dontegraves5051 maybe in that first couple years but not during its whole lifespan.
And don't forget the ppl who bought the p os twice after the dvd failure. Overrated pos.
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Gamecube NEVER beat the ps2, gamecube just like the other nintendo consoles, shit
Dude it’s literally visual fact that the GC beat the PS2 many times. By your dumb logic RE4 looks better on GameCube like bruh it’s been almost 20 years just accept that GC and especially Xbox killed the ps2 on a power perspective.
@Dean Satan look up visual comparisons and see how dumb you sound.
And why ur gaycube still lose
You had me up until 6:42. Those extras were not crap at all and if I had to choose between a poorer image and the extras or better image and no extras, I'll take the former.
NBA street Vol 3 for the GameCube had Mario, Luigi and Peach as playable characters🔥🔥
Need for Speed Underground was not 60 frames on ANY platform including the XBOX. All versions targeted 30 frames. I used to have the GC version of Underground and it did not play as well as the PS2 version.
Thank you, his PS2 must be dying 🤣🤣
I agree, not that the GC version of Underground runs bad, but it looks terrible and I haven't noticed that it runs any better for it. I think the XBOX version is the definitive console release.
NFS Underground doesn't run at 60 fps on any 6th gen console. The framerate is uncapped and sometimes it runs with a little more then 30 fps. That's it. No 60 fps unfortunately.
True, but it's only uncapped on GC, So when you use Wii and Nintendont you can sometimes match 60FPS(~45FPS), like in this video. GC max. 45FPS(~30FPS).
You say need for speed underground ran in 60 fps on gamecube. No it didnt
he probably checked the FPS through Hz which is not surprising, his voice makes him sound dumb af
Thank you for the video. I feel your pain on the price of the expansions. I managed to track them down for regular store prices in the beginning of 2018, but it was already a fluke at that point. The second-hand market prices are insane.
*carries on to being furious, as instructed.
Aside from the inclusion of Link (which was absolutely fantastic), I believe I read that the GC version of Soul Calibur 2 ran the best with better framerates and stuff. I do know that the PS2 version does not run well at all. This to me is hilarious as the original arcade version was on Namco System 246/256 hardware, which is pretty much PS2 hardware. It kinda baffles me that Namco couldn't make the PS2 version run well.
Ps 2 is the best console ever
Best intro ever.
Fast forward to today, and people are defending Nintendo cutting Paper Mario TTYD's frame rate in half for the Switch remake...
It's like getting a PS2 port of TTYD, only with prettier graphics for once.
There are definitely games I own on PS2 ONLY because the Gamecube didn’t get the entire series.
Time Splitters never released on the cube so I felt like I had to get the trilogy in the PS2.
The Fellowship of the Ring (and Aragorn’s Quest I suppose) were on PS2 but not Cube (I mention Aragorn’s Quest that way because I technically have it on PS3 but it was available on 2).
I’m sure there are others but those are the series that come to mind first
I am pretty sure Timespitters 1 & 2 were on the GameCube.
They are, I have them and I have been playing Timesplitters literally 2 hours ago.
@@richardwilkinson340timesplitters 1 is a ps2 exclusive
Points for the Stone cold Roddy Piper pic
We see this even today, xbox hardware is more powerful than ps4, but ps4 beat the sales. Just like the ol days when ps2 beat the sales. This means hardware is not so important. Just look at nintendo switch. Will you say that its hardware can compete against xbox? No! But still it beats xbox like nothing.
Actually the PS4 is more powerful
actually switch has the same hardware power as xbox
@Paul Bell no I mean I played one. And compared to an Xbox one its not underpowered. Atleast from docking mode
@@adstoppedworking4773 The switch is a fucking toaster compared to xbox. I can't count how many games that were ported to switch and completely sucked ass
Top quality vid sir, as always. Also, there is nothing wrong with your pronunciation of SNES.
However, as a fellow Brit, I almost spit out my tea when I heard you say Dragon Ball Zee. It’s Dragon Ball Zed. Just like the song Sharp Dressed Man was by the band ZedZed Top.
"ZedZed Top"
( *twitch* )
No, it is *officially* pronounced Dragon Ball Zee.
Zed
I had a GameCube at launch and always knew is was graphically superior to ps2 just look at Re4 on GameCube compared to the ps2 version.
Twilight Princess, F-Zero GX, Star Fox Adventures, Rogue Leader and Rebel Strike, the list goes on...
The NGC was a great machine, sadly missed out on a few games, so you were in need of a PS2 anyways, the exclusives on both sides were good.. Like the flavor of Gran Turismo, Rumble Roses, Ultraman Games, J-RPG and some Tale games on PS2,... NGC was great for first party games, like Metroid , Mario kart, and some multiport that were far better.. ah yes, still cannot forgive Namco for losing the original Tales of Symphonia files for NGC, all the ports have been based on the inferior 30 fps Ps2 version, which is a shame... doesn't move or look the same.
"Xbox got Spawn... nobody cared" Pshawwwwwwwwwwwwww!! Spawn was AWESOME! I enjoyed Spawn far more than Heihachi or Link :D Still, the GC itself was such a magnificent little machine, it didn't have the catalogue clout of the PS2 but the games it did have were genuinely awesome -- plus, hello? Skies of Arcadia Legends and Phantasy Star Online Episode I+II? HELL YES!
also.. as a fellow Brit; "SNEZZ" for life!
Great vid!
Thanks! I'm gathering gc and ps2 roms and I'm seeing the rule of thumb for the case of overlap
Next video 3000 times PS2 Beat The Gamecube
Cope
That video should be a compilation of the 3000 or however many games skipped LameCube and X-for-no-games-Box in favor of the legendary PS2 LOL
Rayman arena had more character skins on GameCube and a better interface.
To me the only real reason people bought the PlayStation 2 was because it had a dvd player it was as much as a DVD player back in early 2000s had thew good exclusives but to me that all it had going for it GameCube to me had more fun games and was more powerful the only thing I see Nintendo at fault was the discs were small and you couldn't put as much memory on it like a ps2 or Xbox disc so 3nd party was lacking
IDK man. PS2 had a lot more better exclusives than the Gamecube. Like for every one great Gamecube, the PS2 had 2 or 3.
The ps2 win the past console war because:
1. Superior marketing
2. DVD player
3. Easy modding and cheap illegal games
4. 3rd party support
Gamecube was offered way much better gaming experience with better AAA games but Nintendo 's poor marketing and lack of 3rd party ruined the console..sad but true .
@@abstract1603 I almost wish the ps2 didn't have a dvd player, cause then we would've seen a lot more Gamecube games and support for it's life.
Gamecube game is shit, only baby play mario, look ps2 games like god of war, gta, tekken 4 and 5, devil may cry, final fantasy, and many more.
Do you know how many games Sony blocked from coming to the GameCube...Metal Gear 2-3, Onimusha 1-2, Devil May Cry series, Chaos Legion, Final Fantasy X God Hand also a remastered version of Dino Crisis that was being developed by Shinji Mikami team using the Resident Evil 0-1 engine. Sony blocked so many titles from the GameCube and XBOX
Sony was the new Nintendo. Doing everything Nintendo was doing in the 80s and 90s. Every one was on Sony d at the time. Dreamcast didn't get support either from studio s. Sony was overrated and still is. Never own a gamecube but my friend did. Nice posted.
@@cooiolhh8955 Fake news. Any game console that gets the majority of titles of the generation cannot be overrated. You exhibit fake gamer energy.
@@ShadowMan64572 overrated
@@cooiolhh8955 Fake news. 99% of third party support is nothing to scoff at.
@sinchman1 That's weird because Onimusha: Warlords got released on the Xbox in 2002.
You know where the PS2 beat the Gamecube 9/10 times nowadays? Pricing. Gamecube games are ridiculously overpriced even the multiplatform games. When you collect, it makes a big difference. That's why I have over 300 PS2 games and less than 30 Gamecube games. Hell, the only affordable Nintendo console to collect is the Wii (wii u is cheap too but Switch cannibalized almost all its exclusives and the library is too small).
Price is everything !
ya then listen to this , why was the PS2 supposed to be 499 $??? and the gamecube at 199??. but for pricing of the games then i agree. console price is where i disagree
Yet ironically back in the day the Gamecube was considerably cheaper. Supply and demand is a funny old thing.
Nintendo shenanigans with their controllers. Its either their downfall, or the reason they have the highest selling console of all time.
The GameCube was so much better but I guess "gamers" back then prefferred having a DVD player than, you know, and actually competent next-gen console with a better line-up of games. Quality over quantity.
Killer7 DEFINITELY better on the GameCube!
It doesn't matter.... But still make a video on it.... OK..
did you forget Prince of Persia Sands of Time trilogy and Mortal Kombat Deception
No, I specifically said:
"Also something to note: if this were straightforward and looking at better graphics and frame rates as a ‘win’ condition, we’d be here all day because most games released on both formats ran better on Gamecube. Thing is, though, I’m not Digital Foundry, so in the most part I don’t care about that. For the most part."
@@Bransfiiiield but you make up shit as you go? Delete your channel.
Not to mention Sega Soccer Slam. On GC it was a very good multiplayer soccer game. On PS2 on the other hand ... Well different studio developed the PS2 port and it was shitty
It's obviously, better hardware better games, at leas in the technical aspect of it, still even i played all the big shots, and some hidden gems, not GC or Xbox have something like we see in God of War 2, technically talking of course
Nice video thou the obviously reasons that Xbox and Gamecube where a little far ahead from PS2 in hardware
The gamecube will never be as glorious as our playstation 2.
Ps2 has overall 2,218 games GameCube over 300 lol I’m not biased I have a modded Xbox , ps2 and GameCube and I had my fun with DOR 1 & 2. But the SVR series are good . The GTa series .
Thank you
Can you Do the Times where some PS2 Games Beats the GameCube Version in Comparison? Titles like: Capcom vs Snk 2, SSX Tricky, SSX 3, Def Jam: Fight for NY, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit 2, Tony Hawk's Series (Pro Skater 3-4, Underground 1-2, and American Wasteland), Madden NFL Series (2002-08), FIFA Soccer (2002-07), NBA Streets Vol. 2, NFL 2K3, Hitman 2, Freedom Fighters, Finding Nemo, Crash Bandicoot The Wrath of Cortex, Need for Speed Underground 2, NCAA Football Series (2003-2005), Splinter Cell Series, Harry potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, True Crime: Streets of La, Mega Man Anniversary Collection and Mega Man X Collection Are Better on the PS2 than GameCube according to Websites.
GameCube is Slightly powerful than PS2 Which benefits in others most games (Over PS2 Version) like: Sega Soccer Slam, Conflict Desert Storm (1-2), Vexx, MX Superfly, Turok Evolution, Pitfall: The Lost Expedition, Serious Sam: Next Encounter, The Simpsons Hit and Run, XIII (2003), Mega Man X Command Mission, Crash Nitro Kart, Sonic Riders, The Sims, The Sims Bustin out, and Medal of Honor: European Assault.
And no one had a gamecube in AUS and if you did you probably were getting cucked from your parents
sure
Bran's field is the greatest human to ever human and I am not an alien fyi
GameCube Exclusives It cannot be forgotten
Doesn’t the Gamecube typically beat most PS2 games anyway? I thought it was supposed to be more powerful and have better graphics.
Yep, but with the PS2 usually being the lead development platform you'd be surprised how often differences between that and GC versions were minimal. This was an attempt to highlight games with bigger, more obvious differences between platforms.
@@Bransfiiiield Fair enough, makes sense. I’m actually doing a lot of emulation on my Steam Deck, so I also try to see whether GC or PS2 is the better platform. To my eye, PS2 seems more stable but GC has better graphics in general.
@@MrsBlaileen1 Some games are actually a bit superior on PS2, King Kong I think was an example.
Remember when Nintendo used to make stronger hardware? Ever since the Wii came out, Nintendo cheaped out. And I agree that Resident Evil 4, Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2 and Killer 7 should've stayed GameCube exclusives.
still have my Nightfire GameCube copy
Hi I have been planning to buy ultimate spiderman . Should I get the GameCube version or ps2 one?
Gamecube looks a tiny bit better, PS2 version has a bit of slowdown. It's hardly any different really, though.
Bransfield Thanks a lot for the reply. So the difference is less apparent than spiderman 2 across the two consoles?
As far as I'm aware, yeah
Please Emulate so you don't end up like Bransfield with false knowledge.
That thumbnail tho
Gamecube, on Wii U? Is that e-shop virtual console, or what? ^_^. I'll assume it was a joke to end on, ^_^.
PS2 eat game cube c:
2:23 who the actual fuck says that
Me. I said it. In the video you watched I said it. With my mouth. While saying it.
@@Bransfiiiield Yea you are weird just like your judgement on the PS2
Yo I'll never understand how after the crisp looking PS1 video output, the PS2 made everything look like death. Dreamcast which also came earlier looked much sharper and nicer too!
Sony! Your business is audio and visual hardware, what happened? It really put me off the PS2 even at the time honestly. An interlaced nightmare.
Yes there were plenty of good games on the PS2 but I never got on with the thing, or the mushroomy spongey analogues!
Yeah, the lack of any anti-aliasing on the PS2 was one of its biggest issues. If you REALLY want to see the difference, try playing Rez on both DC and PS2. It's amazing how much worse the PS2 version looks. Plus it somehow runs at a lower framerate despite the PS2 being more powerful than the DC.
@@jasonblalock4429 I know! I have them both. I think the PS2 version runs at 60 but with screen tearing, and the DC runs at 30 with vsync. But looks nicer on DC. I remember when Dead or Alive 2 came out, watching a demo on both machines in a games shop, and wondering why the PS2 version looked so rough!
had you forgot the business strategy? gamecube is stronger than ps2 but the price killed it.
PS2 beat that with hard drive and network capability, and the adapter is still cheapter than gamecube one.
A lot of hardware mod make ps2 stronger with 1TB save space.
I belive the reason why GC failed is because they don't even exist at Asia except Japan !
@@jasonblalock4429 I get why people would prefer the DC version of Rez visually compared to PS2 (being able to use the DC mouse as a controller is a nice bonus too), but as far as your claim that the PS2 version “somehow runs at a lower framerate”... well, either you have no idea about frames, or you didn’t play Rez on PS2. Which one is it?
Are you drunk? Don't you remember how beautiful games like Devil May Cry 1 and Ico looked on the PS2?
GameCube was a powerful console, one of my favourite ones.
I wish Virtua Fighter 4 was also ported to Gamecube
Well, there was Virtua Quest, but I don't know which system had the better version. I grew up with the GameCube version.
If you wanted 3D fighters on GameCube, the Sonic Gems Collection has a port of Sonic Championship.
@@NewGabeOrder That games wasn't pushing any limits. I suspect Gamecube would have made Virtua Fighter arcade perfect or a 98 percent conversion. PS2 version was like 95 percent arcade perfect
Please make more videos like this
I'm going to disagree with you on Viewtiful Joe. I loved the extra Dante mode it had and I didn't think the hiccups hurt it as much as you might imagine. But Monkey and RE4, yeah, cube is the way to go. The gamecube's left analog was absolutely divine with its precision and control. I loved it. So in a game where accuracy is important, like aiming that monkey ball or the red line of sight on RE4, it definitely has the edge. Yes, the PS2 version of RE4 had extra content on it and I bought it just to play it, you could definitely feel the difference jumping from the cube to the PS2. It was just looser in general. And, yes, I did try and toggle sensitivity settings. It helps a bit but, in the end, it really is the controller.
I would probably go for Viewtiful Joe 2 on GC over the PS2 version. Part 1 is better on PS2 because of Dante but I think the GC controller feels best for all Capcom 5 games.
Pac-Man World Rally had 4-player split screen not on PS2, Bloody Roar Extreme (the best Bloody Roar version) is Bloody Roar 3 but more refined, and Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life got a not-so-great port on PS2. Lastly, Sonic R has a four-player option not on PS2, and Sonic CD has the Japanese/PAL music if you import the Japanese GameCube version of the Sonic Gems Collection. Even if your PS2's modded, a Japanese PS2 console is required for the Japanese/PAL Sonic CD music to be played. Otherwise, the American music gets played instead.
And ps2 still make u gaycube fans cry, atleast we have god of war, devil may cry, and final Fantasy.
And gta series. U guys have mario shit sunshine.
@@johanbire7974 grand turismo 4 silent hill 3 mgs3 persona 4 shadow of the collosus and many more🤗
@@im22sonofadracula32 yeah brother gaycube fans are crazy they dont accept the reality ps2 sold 155 million worldwide and have a lot of great games.
The GameCube looks cool to me but that design did no favors for it. The Wii design was a better design to attract a general audience. It really is a shame because the GameCube was the last time Nintendo focused on power. The games were great. The graphics were amazing. But they made it a purple cube. That was a terrible idea
Purple, black or grey.
I remember the release of the GameCube clearly here. The purple colour put many people off, simple as that. Visually obvious hardware choices were wrong, small disc size and and lack of left shoulder button, meant developers had to make unnecessary changes to accommodate GameCube. I bought a silver GameCube in 2005 (which I still enjoy), and by that time GameCube was on its way down. Shame, because they did so many other things right.
You know whats funny?, my problem with the GameCube back in the day was that it was purple, now as an owner of two black ones I’m seeking to get a purple one because its just not a GameCube without the purple.
I had a GameCube since Christmas 2020. but i really wanna get a PlayStation 2!
Get one you won't regret it actually I'd rather you emulate the PS2 it is a must have experience
Ps2 had 13 years to get to it's 155 million sales. That's way more time than the average 5-6 console cycle. Wonder how many units the Gamecube would've sold if it also had 13 years?
Nowhere near as many. The PS2 sold more in its first year (25m) than the GC did in its six year lifetime (21.74m).
I think you might be underestimating just how popular the PS2 was. In its last five years it sold about 25m consoles. Meaning in its first eight it sold *one hundred and thirty million*. Nothing else came close, nor would it have even with more time - the PS2 was a legitimate phenomenon.
@@Bransfiiiield It also sold as many as it did because it was a cheap dvd player at the time. I knew a few people back in the day that bought the ps2 to play movies because they were actually cheaper than a dedicated dvd player.
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there is also Mortal Kombat Deception on Gamecube it was far better than the ps2 and Xbox despite the online wasn't presented
also same with some Disney and Nickelodeon games
Only thing Deception on Gamecube had going for it was extra playable characters (Shao Kahn and Goro). In no other way was it a remarkable port. In fact, because the Gamecube controller was lacking in inputs, NRS had to map the new weapon pick-ups function to the C-stick.
But the PS2 version of Viewtiful Joe has Dante though...
Yeah that makes me like that version more. Controls feels better with Gamecube controller though.
@@realamericannegro977 Nothing beats the PS2 controller
I recently heard how it had better graphics and I felt dumb. I love learning all about video game history and thought it was less powerful. I lmew the Xbox was the most powerful of all and even had a better graphics card than anything you could buy off shelves, right? Something like that. At least at release. The only time it happened with consoles ever, iirc.
So yeah, had to click on this video. Thank you for making it.
I actually like Heihachi the best in SC. I think the game looked better on GC slightly though.
The ps2 version has better effects and textures, that makes sense having in mind that the lead drvelopment version arcade hardware was Basically a PS2 with double the ram.
@@GenesHand It was based on a Gamecube like Arcade board from what I remember
this video is good but the stuff you say is just very cringy
@@BMPK true
I never knew that about fight night on gamecube.
NFL2K5, full replays at halftime/ between games ect. On cube and xbox
Ps2 just had still pictures and viewer voice lines for the announcers. The differences between the cube/box version and the ps2 version are jarring
Don't forget Widescreen that gamecube did not have at all
if the gamecube used dvds it would have probably given the ps2 even bigger competition than it had
It would have died as you turned it on
Nintendo proved that power does not sell consoles but games do. Although Gamecube was more powerful console the PS2 had way more games and the variety of games were great.
Yes, but the GameCube and Xbox had some pretty unique exclusives you just couldn’t find on the PS2.
And a lot of PS2 ports struggled because they were designed for competing consoles.
Yes, the PS2 was more popular and had a heaping of JRPGs. But the GameCube and Xbox had special kinds of uniqueness that set them apart.
The Gamecube aged better than the PS2 by the raw quality of the games.
@Saricubra yes it did but console makers don't care how well a system ages but how much money it makes them. I like my gamecube more but Sony made way more money than Nintendo in that generation
@@evgaming9390 And Microsoft as well because the PS2 was the cheapest DVD player at the time.
@@saricubra2867 Let's not throw shame on PS2. The library of games, GoW, KillZone, FInal Fanatsy etc....made it a must have console
yeah viewtiful joe and re4 were fuckin great on gamecube complete shit on ps2
I lowkey like the PS2 version of Viewtiful Joe better due to Dante being in it but nothing beats the Capcom 5 games with the Gamecube controller.
all systems looked better than playstaion 2
Who is talking
Just like today, the Playstation radicals talked so much shit about this graphically superior console that people believed it. Gamecube didn't sell as well because it didn't play DVD's. That was it's fault.
GC Medal of honor frontline had multiplayer.
GC 007 AUF had multiplayer bots.
GC Splinter cell ran at 60fps.
The most important thing, you can easily emulate the entire GC library ( except for Rogue leaderII ) where as pcsx2 games are a lottery.
And ps2 still make u cry.
Frontline didn't work on a recent version of dolphin for me
Can run PS2 buttery smooth on the superior aethersx2 emulator on android
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GameCube graphics > PS2. Just look at how great SSB Melee looked. Metroid Prime. Resident Evil 4. Twilight Princess. Soul Calibur II.
But the fact that the PS2 had more games than both GC XB probably combined is what makes it superior.
gamecube sucks compared to ps2
You Sir are Correct!
I have ps2 and GameCube,and I say GameCube better
I love the clean look Gamecube games have.
So how much did Nintendo pay you for this upload ?
3.50
I'm so very sorry but to me both were special in there own rights in there own ways not one over the other as you think it should be only one game so far from the n64 system was ported to the ps2 system and in honesty it's not half bad ether and that's rayman 2 I think they tried to redo the legend of zelda ocarina of time for gamecube but they forgot the buttons on a n64 aren't the same as gamecube but the graphics were perfect in my opinion because the original version has a b c and yellow and the gamecube has x y z plus yellow🤔
You just can't be objective. Fact is Gamecube was a better system for gamers, if only it had the library and support of the ps2. THe hardware was amazing compared to the PS2.
@@comdrive3865 all three systems stood the test of time I now have both a n64 and a ps2 system myself later I get the extra part I need to join them together as one then last but not least is another gamecube system to play the legend of zelda twilight spirit's it's just they missed one game out of over hundreds of games made I'd say that's a pretty good tract record for them🤔
@@comdrive3865 that's true in some cases it was interesting how they never put a disk tray on it to center the disk themselves(the gamecube system)the disk are half the size of a ps2 system game but the system itself has stood the test of time so something must be right to have it stand alone for so long🤔
@@nancyking-hoffman146 It's a real shame gamecube was written off as a kids toy early on. Maybe if it was painted all black, then it'd have more appeal. There was a huge stir about it, looking "toylike"
Xbox in the background “I’m about to beat BOTH the PS2 and GameCube”