The GameCube Was A Flop; Why Do People Covet It Now?
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Sorry but the GameCube wasn't a flop. Consoles that sell over 20-25M units is considered successful a console doesn't have to sell 100M units to be successful. According to my Bloomberg investment system at work the GameCube actually sold 28.71M units... Nintendo stopped count at 22.42M units under five years in the market
Wii U & a few of Sega’s consoles were flops.
Even back then I knew GameCube had more graphical effects than original XBOX even..
@@demonology2629 ... but, but ... there are no fatalities; we in the medical community just call them ‘uncomfortable coincidences’, move along, nothing to see here.
If you really think that the prequel Star Wars are that terrible than your opinion literally has no value 0.
As a kid I never knew the GameCube was doing that bad. I had a GameCube and everyone I knew had one too, to this day all my friends grew up with the GameCube, so hearing it was considered a flop is so weird to me
That's how I felt about the ps Vita. I remember my dad gifting me a ps Vita and 2 games 12 years ago. And I loved the heck out that system for years until I water damaged it. I eventually bought a new one 2 years ago. But to hear that the ps Vita was a flop was mind-blowing. I guess people really loved mario🤷
bru same i don’t get how they couldn’t vibe w it. i was born in 00 played it around 05 n fell in luv at first sight. i still got 1 n play it til this day
@@reactking7093 The Vita killed itself with proprietary memory cards. Almost everyone I know that didn't buy one said it was because you couldn't use an SD card.
It wasn't a flop. This is blowing things out of proportion. A flop would be the Jaguar, CDI, 32X, GX4000 etc.
@@bryanx0317 definitely did lol he’s literally the only other person i heard say he liked it besides my cousin. was surprising to see
I don't really remember anyone ever actually disliking the GC. It just sold poorly. But the people who had it seemed to think highly of it.
I still have mine
The criticism came from Playstation 2 and Xbox guys that would've never bought the console anyways. Nintendo is for Nintendo games, no one buys a Nintendo console to play a non-Nintendo game. This was different during NES and SNES eras were there was much less concurrence, and immediately after the 64 came out, that seemed to stay, but Playstation One changed that greatly. It was actually a genius move by Nintendo to consolidate the dwindling fanbase on a console that might have not been the strongest hardware, but was going to get the best Nintendo Software ever. Smash Bros Melee, Mario Kart Double Dash, Super Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker and Twillight Princess and of course freaking Metroid Prime, some of the best Nintendo games ever made were released on the Cube.
@@madness9651 Sounds like copium
@@ItsMeBarnaby "Slightly above average software"
You're right, Nintendo just created made the best games ever, created whole genres, and unique games and continues to do it to this day. Oh, and they're games have also kept something that everyone else forgot: extreme high-quality polishing.
If you don't like the games, you can just say that and avoid making such poorly thought out claims.
A lot of people disliked it purely on image. The GameCube was “Kiddy” and as a result, this also led to the image that the GameCube was a less capable machine than even the PS2, which wasn’t true, but that’s what a bad image does
One thing that I didn't hear you mention was how it lacked dvd playback. It seems silly now, but the ability to watch movies was a major selling point of the PS2.
We still have our GameCube and it still gets played. Great system!
A lot of these channels like to throw around units sold numbers but forget tens of millions bought Sony PlayStations solely because of a cheaper entry to CD/DVD/BluRay technologies. I knew tons of people that had those and never played a game on them.
@@mormacfey Pretty sure the PS3 only sold with that insane launch price because BluRay players were super expensive as well.
@@robinkuster1127 exactly! I believe they wanted to jump on the wagon and take advantage of the opportunity
@@robinkuster1127 I honestly think it was more expensive to pay for that custom CPU. PlayStation didn't have to pay for BluRays they were the ones manufacturing them in house at Sony, same as their CDs & DVDs. That was their advantage. They don't have that advantage in a purely digital world.
PS2 was weird in that regard. The DVD player wasn't that great, so you had to get an update disk and save the update data on one of your memory cards, taking up valuable save data.
Unless you got the hard drive, of course, which was absolutely unique to consoles at the time.
For all it's faults, I can see why the PS2 dominated for as long as it did.
That generation was special. You had a reason to own all 3 major consoles. The PS2, XB and GCN all were gateways to great exclusives and unique games.
yea at one point I had all 3 because each had some great exclusives. I pretty much got an xbox for Halo 2 and Halo.
Forgot to mention Sega's Dreamcast
@@shaleg4906 fair point, I always associate it with PS1 / N64 because It came out before the other 6th Gen. Consoles, but you are indeed correct lol
@@kyledodson2992 That's true the DC was the first to come out of that generation. Still remember the date 9/9/99
After the wii everything changed, the wii is an absolutley amazing console, its nostalgic, iconic, fun for everyone including a grandma, etc. but after that consoles never really hit the same.
I remember, after the Wii came out, GameCubes were 9.99 at value village at least 10 or so at a time. At that time, I also got twilight princess for 3 dollars. Flawless. I miss those days
Those were some great deals! It's always interesting to me to see how things come full circle. Everything old truly is new again, as the old saying goes.
When Double-Dash was released, the black GC DD pack was £49.99 in Game (UK). I mean seriously, it was a bargain that nobody was buying!!
I know. The best Gamecube games are so expensive now.
What?! A full gaming device was only $10?!😱
@@suhtangwongYa, they couldn’t give them away. No one wanted them. I should have taken advantage but It wasn’t a nostalgic system for me. I regret not picking up more of what I could. That was the NES that was nostalgic for me. The Wii played all of those gamecube games and I remember everyone I know getting rid of them. Some keeping the games. Some not. My best friend was a Nintendo fanatic all his adolescent life and I remember him abandoning the GameCube for the PlayStation. He said that the Nintendo was for children and the small discs could not fit large games. He traded all of his Nintendo stuff in at game stores to afford the newest thing at the time and didn’t return until the switch. I think he regrets not keeping his childhood games.
In the late 90's to early 2000's I had a N64 then Gamecube and my roommate had a PS1 then PS2. All our friends talked about how the Sony systems were better but when we had a group of friends over playing games together 9 times out of 10 we were playing Nintendo. When it comes to pure gaming fun Nintendo has always had the winning formula.
I always dare to say is because Nintendo understands very well their market, but at its core their vision on gaming is about having quality fun, unlike Sony or Xbox that nowadays their vision is either tech, bells and whistles and cinematic experiences (not to say at all that's bad, is just that their vision is different fundamentally, but also is necessary as medium creators). You can pop most of Nintendo games and have a straightforward fun experience because at the end, they started like that when the industry crashed, fortunately saving it and paving the way for the others.
@@Darkwatchable Nintendo makes some of the best video games of all time, but they're the absolute worst when it comes to listening to their fans, they straight up don't care about their fans at all.
@@buss1205 frankly, sometimes fans doesn't know what they need until they get it.
Well, if they all had Playstation, naturally they wanted to play Nintendo consoles to see what it was.
@@buss1205dont listen to fans? Most of the time they delivered the truest gaming experiences & they have exclusives that sell units = fans want them. Sony lately has been delivering what their woke fanbase wants, not what fans of the game want. MS on the other hand is trying to do better but the most consistent gaming company that delivers what majority of what fans want is still Nintendo .
The GameCube was my first console and I miss it sometimes. I didn't know it was so unpopular, it still holds some of my favorite memories.
I had no idea the GameCube was not as well sold as the previous consoles… it’s crazy because I adored my GameCube and how I enjoyed my time playing with friends
I also loved my Gamecube. I got it to play Resident Evil: The Remake. Then later I got Resident Evil 0, and then ... the greatest Resident Evil game of all time. I have lots of fond memories playing as Leon Kennedy using his laser-sighted weapons.
Gamecube was considered a teletubbies handbag, and the kid friendly games whiich could of put off the older generation gamers making the console not to be taken seriously.
Consoles were over, there was a big switch to PC gaming.
@@svr5423 Sony and Microsoft are still holding the console market down though, Nintendo's problem really was their consoles couldn't do enough of what their competitors could do to really keep up. Gamecube didn't have DVD support or online features, The Wii didn't have bluray or proper online support, the WiiU was just awful, the 3DS/XL was a tolerable gimmick that wasted the hardware upgrades to the DS platform, and the Switch isn't really great at being either a home or a portable console for many reasons,
Growing up and learning that the GameCube didn’t sell well was really shocking tbh. Everyone I knew had one growing up
I loved the design of the Gamecube. I really didnt care for online gaming, it had a lot of great games, I loved Animal Crossing and it had the best version of Pac Man.
There are some pretty fun arcade compilations too..not that you can't get them on more recent systems..but I have several and still play them.
At the time, i distinctly remember myself and my friends being disappointed that it wasn't backwards compatible with N64 games. I know that sounds so ridiculous in hindsight, but the gaming mags told us this was definitely gonna happen! And we were kids.... well....only 1 person i knew actually bought a Gamecube and he just played it on his own. Everyone else we were still rocking the N64 Goldeneye and Super Smash Bros....
I have a Gamecube now that I bought a few years ago and i hardly ever use it...I honestly don't know what's so special about it!
even though I play Gamecube via emulation, I want one again simply because I love the design it's just fun looking and something so satisfying about the cube shape. Still one of my fave controllers so unique and you know every button by the feel of it.
It's built for nostalgia, honestly. The design of it is meant to stand out and last vs the ps2 which was nice if you like that generic dvd player look or the xbox which was just bad in general. Nintendo made some mistakes but the cube shape wasn't one of them.
I disagree. The PS2 and Xbox were far more futuristic in design, although I was always impressed by the 4 player ports inbuilt. I bought the PS2 over the Gamecube because it felt more forward thinking at the time... and of course it meant I didn't need to buy a DVD player... The 2 for 1 option with Sony was why they sold so well ultimately.
I just loved how odd some of those GC games were. Zelda with a colorful, cartoony look? That was a HUGE shift from the dark semi-realism of OoT or Majora‘s Mask. Super Mario Sunshine was completely different in tone and design compared to Mario 64, it was a completely different world. Metroid suddenly became a first-person shooter - and a great one at that. Also the power move of making Luigi‘s Mansion, of all possible games, a launch title. This game is just an absolute oddball. I really enjoyed that willingness to experiment with their IPs from Nintendo at that time.
It was a different time. People were much more willing to experiment with games than they do now
@@alexanderackerman3807 Maybe... but back then a game developer was not bound by fan nor professional expectation, as much. There wasn't an entire web of fanatics who are ready to send you death threats every time you change one little thing and no professional game reviewer to laugh at you for the rest of eternity and call your entire series bad for taking a risk, dooming your entire sales.
Maybe that's what inspired rare and Microsoft to change banjo kazooie which did not work out well...now I know why they changed gears ...
Not having GameCube officially sold here in Brazil still makes me sad, back in the 90s, Nintendo had a partnership with a brazilian company called Gradiente and thanks to it, we could get the games with localized boxes and manuals, but in 2002 they ended the partnership and that made the GC very rare and expesive around here... I would love to play those games around the same time they were coming out... Maybe I'm wrong, but a small part of me believes that not selling the GameCube officially in a country as big as Brazil is one of the reasons why it didn't sell that well
I think sales outside of 1st world countries are the reason for the success of the PS2. Think of Brazil and the Middle East. Arabs love the Playstations, whereas nobody has Xbox over there, and Nintendo is not very popular either.
@@Moses_VII PS2 was really popular here too
same with argentina honestly :/
Can't forget the amazing Soul Calibur 2... The Gamecube version was the superior version and it has Link! Such a classic!
I used to play that game for days at a time with friends!
It's amazing on how many of the games hold up graphically to this day.
I love Luigi’s mansion, it’s still so pretty :)
i genuinely dont understand how games like mgs2, twilight princess, or the resident evil remake are able to hold up so well graphically despite coming out over 20 years ago
@@randomt800kiddo2 Because back then people were VERY competent, literal geniuses in their fields, and were able to squeeze any performance they could out of any system given. Nowadays programmers rely way too much on development tools, can't or rather won't code system code themselves, thus the performance we get out of modern gear is a whole lot less. Devs were excited about weird quirks that would allow them to get special effects going through a weird pipeline that needed super obscure coding to access. Now Devs just code games that run as well on console as on PC, without any specific optimisation for the console hardware really. Which is too bad because when you KNOW the hardware architecture will always be the same for your players, you can REALLY get your games to look much better than they should by using the specific obscure techs of a given system. To my knowledge no game on the switch uses the switch capabilities fully. And it's really sad.
I think it's about having an art direction/style that works with the limitations of a system
@@randomt800kiddo2 Because of great art designers and great level designers working on a system more powerful than the PS2, that devoted all its resources to just playing games. Some game designers, such as those on Super Monkey Ball, or those on Resident Evil remake, actively got a kick out of producing games on such a cute looking machine, that either complemented it or deliciously contrasted with it. Load times were fast on those proprietry discs. Even though games companies would know that PS2 would likely dominate sales-wise, the Gamecube was the first chance to program on a Nintendo system that didn't have a slow processor like the SNES or a cumbersome controller and muddy textures like the N64. It was Nintendo looking visually fresh and it was just a bizarre combination of factors not even particularly known to this day that accounts for why it might have sold relatively little - looked like a small child's toy? Didn't play DVDs at a time when the mass market seemed to care about that? Didn't have GTA? Even lost 2 or 3 million sales possibly to Microsoft due to them buying Rare? All reasons to love it even more to me. And a shame as the Gamecube had plenty of mature content that was classier than the average game on the competition. Metroid Prime and Resident Evil 4 are genius.
The GameCube was the most under appreciated of its era. I’ll never forget forcing my ps2 and Xbox brethren to finally play some of the best the GameCube had to offer and enjoyed hearing them say…”this is on GameCube?” Resident Evil, Day of Reckoning 2, Smash Bros Melee, Time Splitters 2, etc.
@@rockapartie very true!
I remember playing a game in front of a younger person right after the 360 came out and he thought I was playing it! It might have bean Prime Echoes but I don't remember.
@@rockapartie RealTalk™ - to this day I still hear the Rogue Squadron II "menu music" in my head. Now that I typed it...ou are hearing it too...smiling :)
I remember picking up twin snakes at blockbuster and it blew my mind!
I was solely a Nintendo player until this generation. Nintendo had some really steep competition this time around with the PS2 and Xbox. What made me hop over to the PS2 was that it had a dvd player (my first dvd player) and a larger game library. I also think a lot of gamers who grew up with Nintendo in the 80's and 90's like myself were now older and saw Nintendo as "kiddy". I eventually did get a GameCube a few years after it came out and boy am I glad I did because it has so many great games on it!
Yeah it’s interesting that you point that out, how many of us were older when the PS2, Xbox and GameCube came out. It’s almost like we grew up alongside these systems and the PS2 and Xbox seemed like the right consoles for preteens/teens. Although I was only 8 when GameCube came out, so I ended up with it, while my older brother who was 10/11 ended up getting a PS2 and an Xbox eventually
Double Dash is still my favorite Mario Kart by a country mile. The ability to store an item was a game changer
I played with my sister as my "gunner." She would try to punch the CPU players anywhere, anytime, which made Rainbow Road even more...fun.
it's ok but mario kart 64 is way better
I'm 54, and the GameCube is my favorite system ever. I love the design and the way the games looked. Great video btw sir. I still have my original GameCube, but I don't have any games. I've lost them through moving and them just wearing out.
Thank you for your kind words! I agree, ghe GameCube is special. I had one at launch, and like a dope, sold it at some point after the Wii came out. I've corrected that error and won't make it again. :)
@@Forever8Bit I don't blame you. I'm not going to ever sale mine either. I hope one day to be able to get games for it again. I've heard there's a way where you don't have to have the disk, but I'm not sure I want to do that way. I think the GameCube is special with it little disk.
I recommend Double Jump games for GameCube games
How do people lose games by moving 😂 arent they all on a shelf
Shut ur mouth
I think the problem with the GC is that it was the first Nintendo console that acted as a "complimentary console." People who owned a GC at the time also had the PS2 or Original Xbox as their main console. GTA, Final Fantasy, MGS, etc. were lacking on the cube.
@El Gato that might be true. I remember my cousin had a gamecube & a ps2 & we used to play GTA( I don't remember which one) on ps2.
Good point. I don't believe that any of the GTA games ever came to the Cube. I think, now that we can look back at it as history, that was actually a good thing. Companies / systems need to be known for something. The Cube was largely known for being family friendly, and that has given it a whole new life today. I mean, there was this ONE system that tried to go the family friendly route for the past five years but never got off the ground. 🤣 So maybe having the Cube fills that desire.
Gamecube had Final Fantasy and MGS. It may not have had GTA, but it had its clones (e.g. True Crime) for whatever that's worth.
@@Forever8Bit Yeah..MGS, Resident Evil, and Eternal Darkness are just family friendly fun 😊.
Just kidding my friend. I do like how Nintendo was taking chances while trying their best to keep 3rd parties.
Exactly, I had a PS2 and got a Cube for my 11th birthday/Christmas in 2003.
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The gamecube was my first actual console. I had a ton of great memories playing until the early morning with my friends Super Bros Melee, Custom Robo, and even Animal Crossing. I miss the golden days of couch co-op games, it was a ton of fun playing with friends.
This may sound weird but I call the gamecube “The dreamworks of gaming” at the time most people wrote it off as a farce for kids with the exception of a product that shook the world from the year 2001 but now those children like me who grew up alongside them both and liked it, are now adults and relish in how fresh, innovative, and shockingly ambitious they were and still are to this day, causing a practical paradigm shift in the public eye
Explain how this is like “Dreamworks”? Or were you just using that phrase not meaning the Shrek studio?
The purple lunchbox styling and the lack of a killer FPS early in its life and lack of media hype that the other two companies were doing were all huge mistakes.
GameCube also had the definitive version of RE4 for its gen. No version that looked or performed as well came out until later generations. It really was another mark of the GameCube having a lot of power in a small package.
RE4 was originally ment to be exclusive to the GC until too many Sony starting throwing a hiss fit about it and it was ported to PS2.
Playing in both and I can say for certain the graphics on the PS2 version was way worse.
Annoying this version wasn't the one done for the HD remasters over.the years
I can't remember for RE. But I remember for Xtreme G 3, ran at 60 FPS on Gamecube, while PS2 was locked at 30. PS2 also couldn't support anti-aliasing, which made every game look significantly worse.
Shinji Mikami said that he would cut his own head off if RE4 was ported to other consoles. The man's a liar. He still has a head.
The remake of resident evil, for the GameCube is what got me into the resident evil franchise
The GameCube was a huge part of my childhood. My dad got sick when we were little and we had to move into our aunts for sometime and my parents got me a GameCube to keep me busy and I remember spending all day playing it.
Memory Cards for saving game data was not new for Nintendo Systems with the GameCube - the N64 had the "Controller Pak" system that some games used to manage saves. The difference was that the "memory cards" plugged into the console, not the controller.
As a Nintendo fan since the NES, having the GameCube in its heyday was incredible. I had the gameboy advance player before I had a game boy. Having two systems in one back then was INSANE.
I've always loved the GameCube. Not so much the console itself, but the games for the consoles were done of the greatest of all time and the controller layout was almost perfect.
Exactly!!!
It's the best Nintendo controller for sure but that's not saying much.
@@PiousMoltar That's true. Nintendo has a history of and controllers.
I don't remember people hating the gamecube when I was younger, all my friends had that or a PS2 and we loved both systems equally.
There was never any real reason to hate any console, other than the fact that there was no way you could realistically afford all of them, slagging off the one that you didn't have was always just a coping mechanism :)
@@rorychivers8769 the media wanted us to be at one perform at the popular choice
Same here.
@@therealjaystone2344 the media blah blah blah blah blah?
I still play Mario tennis for GameCube to this day
Some of my most memorable gaming was on the cube with 4 controllers. Mariocart, James Bond, WWE...we had a blast!
Back in 2005-/06 i never tought the Gamecube was garbage , infact that was the tought i had reserved for the wii , i used it most for gamecube games, in 2011 i bought all the games i could for 20$ each, best decision i've ever made.
Cool. The Wii is a fine way to play GameCube games, especially with a set of high quality component cables. Great that you get to enjoy those games you love.
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Now u can emulate on xbox so there's that
@@Forever8BitThere’s replica Digital AV cables you can get for the GameCube to save from buying the often scalped Nintendo originals, they’re well-shielded.
@@alvallac2171chill Mr grammar police 😂
Personally, the GameCube was my favorite home console while growing up. I spent and unhealthy amount of time on Halo 2 when I finally got access to it, but I always came back to the GameCube to have casual fun. So many amazing titles like Mario Tennis, Mario Sunshine, Kirby Air Ride, Pokemon Colosseum/XD, Double Dash, and of course SSBM. Put all that together with a lack of consoles in the wild compared to other consoles, and a dash of nostalgia, and you've got yourself very desirable system.
Well said! It's facinating to me to see the number of titles that have never been ported outside of the GameCube. And some of those titles are absolutely high quality. Makes for a compelling reason to grab a Cube in the modern day!
I couldn't agree more. There are so many titles to choose from that they could easily port over to the Switch and make easy money. I still have my GameCube, and a few of my favorite games that I owned, but usually end up emulating anyway. Especially with the Steam Deck, it's just easier that way.
@@Forever8Bit or just play them on the Wii U. Best GC version ever, with digital output.
The constant high peaks of this narration...I cant do it.
It’s kinda weird hearing recently how people received the GC, considering everyone I knew that had one as a kid literally was in awe of it. It didn’t matter if they had an Xbox or PS2 also, the Cube always got cracked open to play some Smash at the very least. So hearing that it was *technically* a flop is a surprise to me.
I loved my GameCube, we only really had the Nintendo stuff, and I loved Mario Sunshine, Animal Crossing, Wind Waker and RPGs like Tales of Symphonia etc. Basically had endless hours of fun, so I never really knew what the critics were on about!
I think the GameCube's lower sales were largely due to paying for the sins of the N64. The far-broader third party support that Playstation enjoyed (including many games that were more mature, or at least felt that way) made it seem like the cooler console to many - especially to a lot of newer gamers who were entering the hobby as it gained more mainstream acceptance. Most people who owned a GameCube in its time loved it, as did many of the people who didn't own one but had a friend who did if they were being honest. Most gamers back then could only afford to buy and build a library for one console each generation and a common coping mechanism was to diss the other consoles as a way of validating their purchasing decision, but this hate tends to be forgotten once consoles reach the retro stage, which explains why almost every underperformer somehow ends up reframed as underappreciated.
Sega exited the console business because of the failures of the Game Gear, Nomad, SEGA CD, 32X, Saturn and Dreamcast.
100% agree with this comment..
Also gamecube discs were smaller then ps2 discs which means less data, and because of that it turned off a lot of 3rd party support = less sales...
The N64 was fantastic!
@derekjohnston2780 agreed. Still hate that wonky controller, though. Their GameCube controller is still my favorite (although I might like the Switch Pro better)
I like how the list of "innovations" is just stuff that had already become industry standards
20 years later I now know what I was meant to be doing in Pikmin 😅 Maybe I'll give it a second chance.
2:07 false. The n64 also had memory cards. I know because I had an n64 and my parents never got me a memory card so I had to just leave my games running for days or weeks on end to beat them if they didn’t save to the cartridge.
Yup, they went right into the controller. Had to go to a special screen just to switch back to a rumble pack on certain games.
Just like on the Dreamcast with the VMUs in the giant controllers.
None of the “innovations” listed were new concepts in gaming, as they were already present in other consoles. And that was the main point of the original criticism of the console.
yeah and saying animal crossing (gc) was the one that started it all when it was really the 2nd in the series lol
@Joe I mean the WaveBird was pretty revolutionary, but yeah, the other stuff was already done by other companies.
I always loved the GameCube and Wii U. I owned 2 during its 1st 5 years of its life. I currently own 3. I made my purple cube a Pico Cube. They’re fun to mod.
It was my first full video game console!
I got Sonic adventure 2 Battle when I first got it, which is one of the best games I’ve ever played.
The gamecube also had amazing rpgs like Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance, Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, and Baten Kaitos.
Another highly underrated aspect during it's early days was how great it's controller design is.
Baiten Kaitos Origins is very underrated
I actually owned both a GameCube and a PS2 when I was younger. To this day there's only maybe one PS2 game I'm interested in.
Gran Turismo 2...which was one of the titles that gave backwards compatibility problems to my dismay. Ok MAYBE the Wu-tang game also.
We never appreciate what we have until it’s gone.
There's a Cinderella song that sounds a lot like that! :)
I had one.. strange that people now think they were a flop...
21 million sold isn’t a failure but down from 32 million N64 consoles sold is not great.
great content, thanks! What video converter or scaler are you using for this? the image looks real neat.
I think they hurt themselves the most with the mini discs. The PS2 and Xbox could both play DVDs, for alot of people that was a big deal at the time, but isn't really a factor these days. DVD players at the time could cost upwards of 150-200 dollars by themselves so a console that also included that ability simply made the competitors' consoles a better value.
Spot on. PS2 on release day offering a DVD player was a huge deal. Sounds funny even a few years later, but for the first two years or so, DVD players were very expensive.
@@stevens1041 I can remember the first DVD player my dad bought, it was well over 100 dollars and the movies he got with it were Battle Field Earth and I think The Matrix was the other one.
I thought this would be a deeper dive into the markets thinking, not just a retrospective of the games, in fact I would think most collectors are not playing the games at all but rather collecting things they find interesting/valuable
This especially since they've been sated or priced out of SNES and NES collecting at this point. They've moved onto the Cube, along with the youth of that generation getting into nostalgic collecting.
I’m buying them because I want to play them.
If you just want to play GameCube games, you are cheaper off buying a Wii
@@MrSerpico145 I wish people would be more objective about how bad the GameCube really was but it's the internet.
The reason people are nostalgic for it are for a few small number of titles that have never left the system due to Nintendo's horrible licensing problems.
Almost all the other major games from that era on the other two systems have been mass release multiple times.
The reason people remember the GameCube is because of the small number of games trapped in limbo.
I owned all three systems during this time and actively played the PlayStation 2 and Xbox while my GameCube generally sat on the shelf. The only games I played were the re-release of Zelda and animal crossing that's it.
Hey man, you did a great job with this video! I loved the content, and the narrative. My only recommendation moving forward is for you to reduce your reliance on upspeak and overly cadenced delivery. I recommend you try to narrate with a more deliberate and natural tone while keeping 100% of the energy!
Thanks for the video! I LOVED the Gamecube!
Nostalgia factor. Brings back old feelings of earler days. We are often addicted and attached to that sort of feeling.
This episode airs the day I started playing Skies of Arcadia (GCN) I love going back to my Cube collection 🤩
That's awesome that you still get to play the GameCube. And that is a really fun game.
First console I bought with my own money in May 2002. I was bowling away with the price £130 as I thought it would be just dear as the PS2 £300 when it was released.
It's weird seeing the overton window change for the little Indigo lunch box. I remember people doing nothing but trashing it, when I tried to sell people on the quality titles it had.
Especially the gaming media like TechTV/G4TV. It's funny how the novelty of online gaming/having a DVD player has worn off and people are appreciating the system for what it is.
A great little stable console that had a bunch of great titles.
The gaming press was extremely biased against Nintendo in those years. In fact in many cases they still are. IGN used to list Gamecube at the far end of the page after PC as if it was the most irrelevant platform.
The Gamecube probably is my favourite system of all time. It was a graphical powerhouse when it needed to be, and it had some of the absolute best Nintendo games. The controller still is relevant to this day, and it's just a wonderful platform with games that aged fantastically.
Actually miss my gamecube.. the graphics STILL hold up today
They certainly do! My wife has started playing Wario World on the Cube recently. It's a testament to the staying power the CUbe has, even today.
WWE Day Of Reckoning 2 comes in mind.😊
@@Facade953 i remember playing that game and Dbz
I played the GameCube more than any console at that period in time. Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil Remake...all fantastic games
Cool! Yes, some great titles you've shared there. I also thought about Paper Mario for the video. So many great games, so little time. :)
@@Forever8Bit I would also just to add in F-Zero GX.. one of the greatest futuristic racing games that Nintendo continues to ignore.
@@Forever8Bit Paper Mario is an amazing rpg. 👍👍
Mario Sunshine, Luigis Mansion, Rogue Squadron II, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4, Super Smash Bros Melee, Zelda Wind Waker... the list goes on.
@Zergilli Literally so many great games to choose from. All reasons why the GameCube was definitely my most played system at the time. The GBA was also able to link up with certain titles and bring new functionality or aesthetics, which was awesome. I remember playing Metroid Prime in the Fusion suit and thought it was so cool...
Loved that console. Luigi's Mansion, Smash Melee, Pikmin, Eternal Darkness, Mario Sunshine, Starfox Adventures, Zelda Wind Waker.
I got my Gamecube used at Gamestop for like maybe 40 bucks. The kid behind the counter clearly didn’t know his stuff because as a bonus it had a Mario Party 7 in it and also the GBA player attached to the bottom. I did have to hunt down the disc to activate that feature
The GameCube (and early generation Wii): the only machine capable of an apparently Herculean feat-running Tales of Symphonia at 60fps. This must be some ancient techno-magic because Bamco has been afraid to even attempt it since.
It's a common thing for artists to only be truly appreciated after their time. Same for the GameCube.
Wii U is up next
Back to Gamecube era I was into PC gaming. I always liked the console appearance and I was curious to play the titles you covered in this video but I stuck to PC (as for many of us I couldn't get both, parents would spend money only on one).
Today I'm into retrogaming and I have the Gamecube in my collection. I've got Super Mario Sunshine, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Kart, Metroid Prime and others and they're great titles still enjoyable today.
Probably the lack of online multiplayer titles counts less than zero now, very few buy an old machine expecting to go online.
How easily I forget that PC gaming was once all there was. I didn't always get TV access or the newest console on time, but there were shovelware package discs and files floating around online to keep me occupied all weekend. It wasn't, like, Starcraft, or anything, but there was plenty of Doom, and you'd run into someone's copy of Roller Coster Tycoon sometimes, too, not to mention the educational games I started with. I still can't imagine consoles replicating those one-of-a-kind experiences, and the way I see it now, it's not all that surprising they never have.
I grew up with an Indigo GameCube and never knew it was hated. I have extremely fond memories of my GameCube and to this day I still play it occasionally.
I was a freshman in high school the holiday season the GameCube was released. I remember wanting one just to say I had one, and valiantly defending Nintendo on console wars forums. But I ended up with a PS2 which I eventually traded in for an Xbox. I think for me and a lot of millenials at the time, we had grown up through the NES-N64 era and were getting older and edgier as teens and wanted something more violent. I think that was GTAIII's hidden appeal.
The Gamecube was MY era. I was born in 1994 and too young to even know what an N64 or Gameboy was. But the Gamecube and Gameboy advance was what I grew up with. Can't tell ya how many nights I stayed up until 4 am with my sister and cousins playing Kirby Air Ride, Mario Kart DD and Melee. I went to Apex 2022 to see the Top 8 players duke it out in Melee. It's STILL a gem to see it played competitively, people of all ages still love going to these tournaments. The Gamecube is , like you said, timeless! Thanks for this video, I feel 7 again...
Same 👍🤟
Same. Tho I knew about the ps1 and gameboy color since my cousin had those, but I only played the n64 twice in my lifetime and I was born the day it released in Japan.
It's interesting how your experience diverges from my own, having been born around the same time. I was born in early Q4 1993, and my early gaming experience, apart from some point and click PC games (and the Disney Tarzan game for PC for some reason), were basically all of the major consoles from the 90s (SNES, N64, Playstation).
@@Tyler_W Nice. I played the Gensis once back in 2003 because of my older sister
I think it's similar to the Sega Dreamcast. Both are gems of a system
Wait wait wait, those aren't innovations...PlayStation did all of those things first.
What GameCube did right was that rather than being high tech and adult, the GameCube was artful, colorful, and marketed towards children and all ages. Everything about it, from the design to the games themselves. Because ultimately it's a toy. That's what Nintendo has always done that's made it stand out
It's the fact that they are realizing that they missed out on what it was during it's day.
My first console was the Gamecube. It was great!
That was a fine first console, indeed!
Game cube was one of my favourite consoles have a lot of fond memories playing it
I love hearing about these kinds of stories! The memories we make playing our favorite games, especially with our favorite people, are what make gaming so much fun.
I loved when you didn't have to charge your game systems when we were kids,to this day I still wonder why they decided to go the charge your game systems route...?
I was able to get one and i love it! Still hunting for games for it
I fully agree!
I was an early supporter of the NGC before it even launched back in the day and despite some tech-flaws compared to Xbox or the PS2's DVD avaibility, the console was awesome and had some superb software....BUT often I had to go the envy way of watching a lot of 3rd party titles never arrive on the system, and had to constantly defend the system back in jr. high school. Often the console's design was mocked by people. I even supported it long into the Wii era. Then it was silence for many years. BUT now all of a sudden I hear from all corners and sides how GREAT IT WAS (?)
That is some support I feel was needed back then. It feels somewhat bitter-sweet. I own a very large collection of GC titles and often get the questions how I can have that.
Well, I was there from the gecko and bought most games used.
Thanks for sharin this fun story! In a world of boring square and rectangle black and white consoles (minus the PS5), it's great to see the Cube's design getting the love it deserves. Maybe companies will be willing to take chances once again and design systems that look unique and stand out fro the crowd.
@@Forever8Bit I couldent agree more!
Things are just to stale.
I ALWAYS loved the GameCube. It was my first personally-owned console I got for Christmas and I’ve had so many memories with that thing.
I had one when I was a kid. Absolutely loved it. Small console footprint, Small game discs, big games! I put some hours on budokai and star fox adventures!
It failed because, in the early 2000s, people wanted darker violent games that were aimed for a adult audience.
GTA is the best example of this, and the PS2 had 5 GTA games. There was also stuff like Silent Hill, Devil May Cry, Metal Gear Solid, and all the Tom Clancy games.
I had 13 playthroughs of Resident Evil 4 on GameCube. I had dedicated memory cards just for that game with different weapon loadouts. My favorite game of all time first experienced on GameCube before it could be played on any other console.
I think nostalgia is the number one biggest factor. A lot of people grew up playing game cube games... and even if they didn't have a game cube, anyone with a wii could still play game cube games. The wii was my first console, but even then I have memories playing Luigi's Mansion and Mario Sunshine, as well as the New Play Control version of Pikmin, all of which were game cube games.
The gamecube gave you something no other console at the time could give, the unique Nintendo experience
I remember getting this at launch but I believe I swapped my nephew for a newer modeled version with HDMI inputs.
Halo wasn't online, Xbox and PS2 didn't get online until later, and it wasn't built into the PS2 either.
I was playing online on Sega Dreamcast then..
NFL 2k1, Phantasy Star Online, Quake III Arena
Dreamcast even had a web browser!
Ps2 network adapter.
Xbox did come with its own adapter. It shipped out with Xbox live service
@itsDinkd Yeah the Xbox had an ethernet modem built in, but Xbox Live came like a year later and Halo 1 never had online for the Xbox. Basically no one launched their consoles with online. Sega took awhile to get their service running too but it wasn't too long.
I loved my GameCube, far more than my Wii, the controllers were the most comfy things ever! Sadly I lost it while moving out of my flat, turned out the landlord found it and sold it.
Yeah, I love Gamecube controllers! Still my favorite controller. I used them through the Wii era and now on my Switch I use a Gamecube type controller. Hopefully the next console Nintendo releases will continue this trend.
I've always loved my GameCube and I still have the majority of my childhood library today
Same here, Have Metroid, Resident Evil 4 and Tales of Symphonia, 007, even Freedom Fighters....
this was not the first system to use a memory card, are you kidding ?
Forever 8-bit, I'll TELL you why people are rediscovering the greatness of the Gamecube.
It's because it is right there in the Gamecube where Nintendo's divergence strategies started really taking root.
When Sony came into this business, they mastered the media game that Sega previously utilized against Nintendo.
Sony convinced the larger gaming world that Nintendo's way was WRONG & Sony's way was RIGHT.
So many companies were trying to create the Multimedia Console with their CD add-ons in the 1990s-Nintendo included.
But OF COURSE it was the co-creator of the Compact Disc & one of the key companies behind music, movies, & TV that would be the one to usher in the Multimedia Console age...and I ain't talking about Phillips.
Sony WAS Multimedia so it was naturally them who succeeded in creating a CD-based Multimedia Console.
Sony sold music, movies, TV, as well as the media players for those mediums. Media & Media Formats is Sony's business.
Nintendo sold cards, toys, & games. Play is Nintendo's business. That's the difference.
Nintendo WILL ALWAYS center gaming on their gaming consoles. They don't sell CDs, DVDs, Blu-rays, or TV sets.
Sony DOES sell those things so it's natural for them to center THEIR strengths as a business on consoles.
As a result, the public was distracted with the shiny shiny of tech in Audio/Video terms instead of Game terms.
Nintendo was now WRONG to sell a gaming console centered around the core of Games.
Sony convinced everyone that it was RIGHT to sell a gaming console centered around the periphery of Multimedia.
The Nintendo 64 & especially Gamecube got caught up in this media campaign.
Even its name GAMEcube was a problem because Nintendo stayed true to the business they resurrected in 1985.
Nintendo compromised for the 3rd Party's sake. They like discs over cartridges in home consoles? We'll give them discs.
But the discs can't save data without a Mermory Card (tridge). And we won't use Sony's discs either.
We'll get an outside party & make custom discs OUR way. We will focus GAME over everything else.
AND we will concentrate on tech size seeking to shrink the bulk for a more efficient less energy-using product.
Better compression in our games, better compression in our players' living spaces, better concentration on game quality.
Gamecube was pound-for-pound the most powerful console of the 6th Generation & was affordable for its power output.
And the market failure of Gamecube proved that gamers REALLY don't care about power like they say they do.
They diverged from this increasing Multimedia + Horsepower angle Sony had promoted & moved in THEIR OWN way.
Each console since Gamecube (yes including Switch) has used Gamecube's core philosophy in one way or another.
DS, Wii, 3DS, Wii U, Switch have Gamecube's ideology embedded within it.
On the Wii & Wii U Menu every Channel can move around EXCEPT the gaming channel.
Switch does not let you easily get to non-gaming panels on screen. Everything is laid out to keep you playing a game.
It's Yokoi's principle of Lateral Thinking of Withered Technology fully powered.
In the handheld console race, Nintendo never had to compromise. They STAYED with the cartridge all the way through.
And in fact it was the DS which resembled the Nintendo 64 in power, that REVERTED everything back Nintendo's way.
PlayStation had CD & won. PlayStation 2 had DVD & won.
PlayStation Portable had UMD & lost. PlayStation 3 had Blu-ray & lost.
There is a REASON why PlayStation Vita changed to cartridge. Everything came full circle from N64 to DS.
The DS corrected the trajectory of the industry after Sony's mid-1990s Multimedia distraction avenging the N64.
Part of why Wii U failed was the albatross of discs & the absence of cartidges. Only the Wii Mode made use of cartridges.
Switch AKA the Wii U revision corrected course & restored the cartridge to realize the Hybrid Console idea Wii U introduced.
So now Sony's style is out of style. Multimedia is a great SIDE function but this is the Videogame Industry.
You are supposed to sell Videogames first & foremost. Nintendo's way is RIGHT, Sony's way is WRONG.
1st Party matters most not 3rd Party. Nintendo simply outlasted the media campaign & proved themselves right.
Gamecube is now looked at in its proper light in this atmosphere ESPECIALLY since so many hit Switch games have their root on that Nintendo Gamecube which was once bullied out of school.
Animal Crossing, Pikmin, Luigi's Mansion, game mechanics of Zelda: Wind Waker leading to Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Super Smash Bros. Melee advancing the series greatly, multiplayer ideas of Gamecube to Game Boy Advance fleshed out, Super Mario Sunshine's cleaning of environmental sludge done in reverse in an ink-splattering game called Splatoon.
Wii was said to be 2 Gamecubes duct-taped together. That's a compliment & it explains part of Wii's massive success.
A lot of strategies Nintendo comes up with in a "Down" cycle usually end up becoming an unforeseen source of strength in an "Up" cycle. The only true loss Nintendo ever had in videogames was the Virtual Boy.
Gamecube was always great & now since Nintendo keeps those games in the vault, their value has only increased.
Hence the Gamecube thirst.
Wow, wise words.
Exactly, such a prominent business strategy I remember of the PS2 was that it seconded as a DVD player for families who didn’t already have one at the time. The Microsoft Xbox was trying to compete in the same league, while heavily pushing the DirectX 9 technology that was in Windows XP which made PC gamers at the time interested in its offerings. That too could play DVDs, but it required special use of a IR transmitter to use with the included remote. The downsizing into the compact form of the GameCube made it specialized in its purpose as its name entails, as it takes up so little space I still have mine hooked up to this day
@@masterclass7525 Didn't see your comment earlier. Thank you for the compliments!
I lived through this era. That's why I know it so well.
I'm so glad everything's reverting back Nintendo's way in the general mindset of the public.
The Neg Campaign against Gamecube was a travesty as was the loss of Sega Dreamcast.
The disrespect of those two excellent consoles STILL sticks in my craw all these years later.
I was so happy to see Nintendo restore the balance through DS & Wii.
Switch is the beneficiary of these efforts. GAMING first & foremost. The industry must never forget.
I still have my original Game Cube with all the RE games. I remember playing them all day and night. It may failed to sell millions but it never failed to give me fun.
You could unlock more than 6 craft in SW Rogue Leader. I remember playing in the N1 starfighter, there was Vaders TIE, Boba Fetts ship and a 1960s US automobile you could unlock as well iirc.
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Animal Crossing had already been released for Japanese N64. This started it all.
Imagine if Resident Evil 4 remain a GameCube exclusive.
Between the games, the movies, and the collectibles, it would be a system maker! :)
@@Forever8Bit GameCube is one of my dream consoles, I was just overwhelmed by PS2's hype at that time.
I played my gamecube as a kid SO much its crazy that it didnt do well but i also didnt play a single online game
Big difference between, "a flop" and "a commercial flop". I had it and loved it and never knew another owner that resented their purchase.
GameCube had some real gems on there. Tales of Symphonia, Smash Bros Melee, Baten Kaitos, Skies of Arcadia, Luigi's Mansion, Mario Sunshine, Paper Mario, Wind Waker, Pikmin, Metroid Prime, Soul Calibur II, Fire Emblem, Sonic Adventure... these were some of my favorites.
Playing with others have always been so important for me that growing up i had the choice of Nintendo or playstation and I always chose Nintendo. Being there for the release of the N64 and the GameCube, I've always loved the emphasis put into multiplayer games that you could just pop in and play.
sitting there with your hand on it, i didn't know it was so big
Literally the smash bros melee community is the sole reason.
The GameCube was my jam during high school. My all time favorite Nintendo console
Awesome! I keep telling my son I'm going to show up at his school walking around carrying a GameCUbe by its handle. He said he would not be down with that. 🤣
Great video breakdown. I regret getting rid of my GameCube collection as it would be so valuable today. It’s kinda too expensive nowadays to get again, great memories though
Thanks! The irony is that the GameCube itself isn't so expensive. There's one on my local Facebook Marketplace right now for just $75. But the games ustally sell for around modern game prices, so getting them runs at about the same pace as buying PS5 or Series games, I'd guess.
@@Forever8Bit yeah if I was gonna buy a GameCube again I’d buy a BC Wii, which costs about 50 or 60 plus the component cables are way cheaper…but yeah most of what I’d wanna play has been ported or remastered. I hope they bring original Luigi’s mansion to Switch. If we don’t get Prime 1 and 2 ported than I’ll eventually get those on GameCube. Wii remotes just didn’t do it for me on the trilogy
The Wavebird controller was legitimately the first time I ever held a controller and said this feels perfectly in my hands.
I got to experience the gamecube watching over my big bros shoulder growing up. Honestly i was happy to just watch lol
I got the GameCube day one. Which was annoying since they didn't ship memory cards till the following week. Then I got ps2 which ironically had a memory cards shortage due to a fire in a factory that manufactured them. Or at least that's what I heard... It was a weird month or two.
That's ok the PS2 didn't have any games at launch worth saving anything anyway lol
I still own both a Dreamcast and Gamecube, and think they are both fantastic systems. I really like the Gamecube’s controller.
Never knew it did poorly. I and all my friends had one and we loved it.