Watching this video on my dual Kllisre 2 x E5-2689 16c/32t with 64 gb ram! Decided to go for it and buy (from aliexpress) /assemble this monster of a PC after having watched your previous videos. Absolutely no regrets! So please keep on with this excellent work of yours... really looking forward to when the next (old) generation of LGA 2011-3 server CPUs will become cheap and plenty on aliexpress!
I just ordered a e5 2689 with 32gb quad channel ram in this board combo Im very exited about what I have been seeing on youtube about this beast server cpu are you having any issues withe memory ? unmatched sticks, running hot or misslabled ?
fft2020 I wanna buy this combo too. What gpu did u pair it up with? And do u notice any bottle necks? I seen videos of people pairing a 2080 and still works great
@@Manyangles I had a RX560 but last month I got a RX570 and It is awesome, I play Kingdom Come in very high (or even ultra) with almost always 60fps, and Assassins Creed Origin also in Ultra with around 60 fps ... the limit is really the GPU... All the 16(!!!) cores are very relaxed even ACO that is said to be CPU intensive I see activity in most cores of 50% or less. again, INSANE AMOUNT of cores
I just ordered Huananzhi ZD3 motherboard for my 2nd PC and I was thinking about CPU like that - cheap, 8/16, kinda high clock speed and with low TDP. And you know, your video was released just in time, thank you Phill!
wow I didn't know big time celebrity Influencers also watch phil... makes me feel like I have an iq of 250 much love to phil & Timothy Joe my two most frequented tech channels along with Tech Yes City
Seems Fortnite ep.2 prefers newer CPUs. Tech Yes Brian solved the microstuter problems with turning the shadows off and post processing to low. I don't personally play it, but bummer for those shadows.
@Ayy Yo I suppose you do not. The PC's are for many things, to include Fortnite for the kids. These were the recommendations of Tech Yes City when it comes to stutters, and it worked for me. That being said, I always thought that Software/HW on gaming stations was particularly optimized, outside of PC.
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The Witcher 3 stuttering issue is a frametime problem on some machines, try the rivatuner framerate limiter, and that will be smooth the frametime and heal the stuttering
If you run it on a Radeon, there will be stutter. It was very big into Nvidia’s Gameworks, so any pre Kepler Nvidia card, or any Radeon will stutter a lot in it.
not true about radeon part, i never stuttered in it with R9 390X, i believe he suffered from ddr3 ram which was trying to use full bandwidth of RX 5700 as well as 8 16 instead of 4 8(which will result in reduced experience in a few games, on such old hw especially), lack of ram MHz even in dual channel will result in a messy experience, as was suggested here, fps lock will fix that issue because it will reduce the load of gpu which is struggling from cpu and ram mhz
Ahh love your videos! I have built 2 pc's under 300€ that can handle very heavy load. All thanks to you I got interrsted in the older "less known" yet very effective processors and I just might try this one out!
Man that mainboard looks pretty slick imo Would love to see company fiddle more the color lay out like the early 2000's Boards were exciting back then not that they are not now but something keep dissappears In this vast abyss of hardware
Frame time freezes could be memory speed. In a video by randomgaminghd he was experiencing these issues on older hardware and a memory overclock cleaned it up.
Another great video. Following your video (a different one), I ordered a E5-2620V2 (6 core, 12 threads @ 2.1GHz base freq), with a X79 (Killspre) bundle with 16GB DDR3. IMHO that is a great value too, at just about half the price. Of course, my use is not for gaming but a home lab.
Recently upgraded my nas to this processor from E5-2620 v2, get 2 more cores, and half a gigahertz base frequency boost, all for 10€. Now Plex has no problem transcoding 4k videos on the fly anymore, so this is a win.
Thanks to you Phil, I'm now running a Huanan X79 board with a E5-2650V2 since your first socket 2011 video released. But I have to say, that CPU is quite honestly one of the best bang for the buck Xeon you can get for this socket, considering it runs nice and cool, it has decent clockspeeds, and runs all the games I play on 1080p 60+ fps with a GTX 970. Only thing I definitely had to do was add a fancontroller, because the fan controller on the motherboard causes the fans to spin at 100%, because the temp sensor on the VRM says the VRM is at 500 degree Celsius, which is definitely not true...
I was online window shopping and stumbled into Huananzhi X99 motherboard on AliExpress. Now, this one is a bit special, as it has actively cooled VRM, and 8 RAM slots. Now, when I say 8, I mean 4 DDR4 and 4 DDR3. The first thing that popped into my head was: "Is this real life", and the second was: "I've got to tell Phil about this one!" :D
Well, when you are buying this kind of gear, you are not buying for the top performance in the newest games. But i did lol when i saw the RDR 2 performance on new pc’s.
After finally getting it to launch, I'm surprised how well it runs. I'm running at 1440 and the benchmark averaged 80 fps. I left the graphics at what it selected, most are high, a few ultra, some medium, some low, but the game looks great.
Great video. Surprised I just saw this video today. Been following the channel for awhile. I have two of these processors in my Dell T5610 workstation. I got lucky and got a second hand one maxed out with 128 GBs of RAM. I put a GTX 1070 in it and called it done. It does everything I need it to from video and photo editing and gaming.
So let me build a hipothetical build: 32gb ram + Xeon E5-2650V2 + X79P LGA 2011 motherboard $172.50 RX 580 8gb (Used) 100$ PSU (around 60$) 1tb m.2 SSD (round 120$) Cheap case (around 60$) Cooler (Ruffly 40$) That is a ruffly 560$ PC which gives you very good performance, more than enough storage and ram, 8 cores, a GPU with 8gb Vram for about the same price as the MSRP of the Xbox One X. If you save a bit on the SSD and PSU you can shrink that down to the cost of an Xbox One X + 1 game. That is a very interesting value option. I'd personally go with a Ryzen 1. gen System for the upgrade path and better performance, but I can not denie that this is a damn interesting option for budget gamers and content creators.
The problems with stutters in some games can be down to certain graphics settings. I used to think "oh well shadows are rendered by the GPU so why would the CPU have anything to do with it". But getting more into that stuff i saw a video that explained why games prefer higher clocks over more cores.
Been using this cpu for 3 years now and honestly was the best cpu I’d ever bought for $55 the only time I’m starting to see it struggle is in warzone! But now it’s going for around $10 on eBay which is a steal in my book price to performance wise. Although I’m also thinking to upgrading to the x99 platform with an intel xeon 2699 v3 as I also render a lot in blender and unity.
In 2024 you can now pickup this E5 1650V2 in 16Gb RAM and motherboard combos for only $50-55! Granteda at that price they normally have 1600mhz RAM kits and the boards tend to be the cheaper single channel supporting versions, but for the price its still a very good deal. For the quad channel board combos with 1866mhz RAM kits, they can be found for around $70-80. Pair that with an aliexpress RX 580 for $80, a cheap case and a decent power supply and you can have some very enjoyable 1080p gaming for only $200 in 2024! (or around $230 if you go for the better boards and RAM)
I believe the Fortnite frametime spikes are from Rivatuner. I've tested the game on a couple different machines and have experienced the same issue when I was using the OSD.
Love the videos, so informative. Got myself a second hand 4970k 4 years ago. No reason to upgrade yet. Paired it with a GF 1060 and 16gb ram. 1080p full details 60fps gaming for £300.
✅ I bought my "new" PC after saw your video of the E5-2689, the performance in games and rendering videos is very good for the price. The E5-2650V2 looks good and it will be a good buy for sure! Thank you very much Phil, your videos are so useful. Cheers!
@@Ayoub-wg3tw @Ayoub Hi! Well, the E5 2650 V2 have a 95W TDP vs the 115W of the 2689, the 2650 it's a little bit colder. Same price, same performance, less hot. The 2650 v2 May be the best option today. Cheers!
Thinking of using one of these xeons for a build for my little brother. I was going to just make a cheap R3 1200 build, since I thought he'd only play esports games, but turns out he streams and edits videos. Knowing this channel turned out to be a lifesaver for choosing an adequate build 😅
@@lonniebeal6032 I used to look at the PassMark scores but in the last month or so all of the Xeon scores have dropped by thousands of points and I no longer find them a useful reference. For example, my E5-1650 v3 gets a score of ~13,800 from the software, which was very close to the website's 13,500, putting it on par with the R5 2600. However, about a month ago, all the scores dropped on Xeons and now the website says it has an average score of 10,200, which is MUCH lower than what my CPU actually gets. I wonder what happened?
@@fidonol It was an update from Passmark 9 to Passmark 10 that changed all the numbers. Something about Passmark 10 favours newer CPUs and I think it might be an instruction set thing.
@@philscomputerlab yeah I’m enjoying the performance but it’s not quite as good as I want for watch dogs legion so I might upgrade to an e5-2667 v2 or 2687w v2 as they turbo to 3.6 on all cores
@@ravioli0239 For example I use LGA 2011 system as my main video editing PC. I found a 1650V2 faster (has only 6 Cores, but runs 3.6 GHz) than 2650V2 with more cores. Especially the actual editing and working with the timeline is so much better with the higher clock speed. The video encoding feels the same, yes you get more cores, but they also run slower. It's all a matter of power in the end and if you want more cores AND high clock speed you need to look at more modern platforms. BUT if the performance is good enough, then LGA 2011 is such good value.
@@philscomputerlab from what I can tell according to passmark the e5-2667 v2 performs similarly to a ryzen 7 1700 which I think should be good enough for quite a few years to come. My current cpu isn’t much better in single thread performance than my previous one but the extra cores and threads have been useful when it comes to gaming which I was surprised about
I have this cpu and it's great , i tried to disable hyperthreading in the bios and that gave me about 15 to 20% more fps. I hope that you can make a video comparing the gaming results with and without hyperthreading.
The frametime stutter is specifically related to the RX 5700. There are issues with it aggressively down clocking, which are posted all over reddit. No driver or vbios can fix it, not that anyone knows of. I ended up selling my 5700 XT because of it. Try any other radeon or nvidia card, but not the 5700 series.
Man you have to be careful because this processor have 8 cores, but the IPC is low and not only that you can't OC much this CPU. The new consoles probably will use a Ryzen CPU with higher IPC and 8 cores and is not the same power compared to this old xeon. In games actually you need IPC not cores in the 99% of cases. In future games will be using more cores for shure but you will need more than that to be at today standards.
@@Faxtron i agree, but the thing is that these videos are for people that doenst have the money to invest in modern hardware or new consoles. so this is like an option.
When buying from AliExpress, videotape the unboxing and steps in the assembly, to show evidence if you end up returning a bad board. I had to show that the CPU was good (thank goodness I had a spare) and the tests of the Power Supply. What a pain, but I did get my money back...save for return postage and import duties. Yuk.
Some seller also do this. They film the board being tested. I had one board with just 1 RAM slot working, and luckily it showed up in the sellers video! But I'm only aware of a few handful doing this.
I feel like older xeon processors are going to be a new budget craze since all these Chinese motherboards are coming out of China because they're updating their servers as long as you got a decent gpu you can get stuff well above 60 fpfs you'd most likely want to get a 3060 if you're going budget but anything above that Vram should also be amazing especially if your using it for work purposes.
A 1650v2 benchmarks very close to a Ryzen 5 1600. I have an old C602 board that will be getting one of those and a used 1060 - that should last a good while I imagine.
Hey Phil, thanks for the video. I was just wondering if you turn off the meltdown/specter update on these xeons while testing and if you don’t, can you make a video on how it effects the performance? Thanks again.
Yes I do that on my old xeons. Gave them some tech yes loving with inspectre. Seemed to make a big difference in tabs totally accurate battle simulator. Will try and do comparison one time!
O.o I got to watch this video. I got to 2x E7-4860 V2 for almost nothing. Was a steal. Waiting for my X79 board to arrive. I got the cheapest China x58 board & paired with X5677 Quad. It actually boosts to 3.6Ghz but I've only gotten 2 dims to work although it's a 4 dim board. Only supports 4gb sticks I believe. But I think the one of the RAM sticks I had was defective. I'm going to put the x 58 in the case as a final test. But been running battlefield with the 780 ti for a long while on it.
I just bought it 2 weeks ago with x79 motherboard, now I am using it with my gtx 750 1gb with 8gb ddr3 ram and a 250gb ssd. The pc is a beast for under £100 and it runs fortnite with high setting 1080p with over 144fps even streaming on twitch the cpu is under 25% and the gpu runs slightly over 85%. I belive the gpu can be upgraded gtx 1080ti and the cpu will still not be bottleneck.
Yes, I know this is a really old video, but I had an odd question... did you happen to test the memory at slower speeds to see if it made much difference? I doubt it, but I thought I'd ask. I have some (8x4GB sticks) old ECC registered server memory at 1066 just lying around and I'm looking at throwing it at a socket 2011 board, maybe one of these Chinese boards or maybe an HP Z420 workstation, and was wondering if slow memory would hold things back too much or if there's enough cache to smooth it out. With that much RAM I could probably build out two systems but I would like to know whether or not DDR3-1066 would be worthwhile to use or if I should just get some 1600/1866 stuff.
Did manage to get locally an ASUS P9X79Pro with original box and accessories (all mint) for... ... ...$20!!! Also, an E5-1650V2 (local listing in country) for $62 delivered. The deals are out there if you are patient and monitoring the mkt. This is my main system and I run it at 4.4GHz, no issues. Also, the HuananZhi X79 deluxe paired to an E5-4627V2 (8C/8T) running all core 3.5Ghz (this CPU cost me $96 delivered, on eBay. Prices have since spiked to $150, apparently). This is my eldest child's PC.
@@Somkills oof i bet. I have a rx580. Im hoping to move onto a ryzen build later but for now i have no problems with my little xeon. Honestly for 17$ this 4 core is a beast. Im positive yours is far better.
just the ease of native windows 7 support makes these systems still valuable to me , i have a ryzen 7 1700 on a x370 asus prime motherboard and yet my main system is still my core i7 4930k on my sabertooth x79 i still use windows 7 ultimate as my main platform ive managed to get amazing backwards compatibility on 7 Ultimate compared to newer operating systems
I have noticed that lowering the frame cap will help with frame time spikes. This is however not a guarantee. I've had this issue with Witcher as well and since I lowered the frame cap it helped
I use a Xeon in my rig also. A quick note though, a large number of cores doesn't benefit games much. You want fewer, faster cores. But, if you're like me and like to have a 1000 (not an exaggeration) Chrome tabs open, it helps.
With prices of the 2689 on the rise(thanks to youtube mostly I presume) the 2650 v2 is a great option. It delivers performance on the level of the Ryzen 7 1700, runs very cool and will hit the boost clocks even on the cheapest motherboards due to his efficiency. My girlfriend has this CPU running with a GTX 1080 in a cheap Jingsha and 32gb of ecc memory. She was killing her previous machine with uncountable chrome tabs so I had to ensure there is enough ram xD
Yea my current main rigg is running a 1650V2 OC to 4 GHz, but I will need this CPU to test a new motherboard. So I will install the 2650V2 permanently, it should do just fine for producing my videos :)
Hi Phil, I have experienced issues regarding frame time spikes and found for some game titles by reducing / removing shadow details can either eliminate or reduce frame time spikes in some game titles.
From a value perspective I think these lga 2011 systems will always be overshadowed by 1st Gen ryzen. Definitely a fun setup though. I watched this on to the way to work, such a good way to start the day. You're videos are for the connesiuor of pc enthusiasts lol. Cheers!
ddw dw Hi, I have been looking more and more into building a Xeon processor based gaming pc, some of the specs are close to some of the top of the line i7 processors. What I am trying to understand is how is it possible that a 1st Gen Ryzen gets a better benchmark score than a higher specs Xeon processor and how do they Compare in terms of processing power compared to the intel Core series. Thank you for you help guys.
@@TheRiddimselecta Hey, it basically comes down to the clockspeeds and IPC. Even though the Xeon may have a higher core count, it's not enough to make up for what it lacks in clockspeeds (a full gigahert or more in some cases) and IPC. The supported memory speeds are slower (1600mhz vs 3200mhz), and the Spectre/meltdown patches hurt the older Intel's as well unless you install an older version of Windows 10.
@@doug2bitemore this is accurate. i used to have a 1366 xeon 6 core build and although it was snappy a ryzen 6 core build would hands down beat it. for what ryzen is costing nowadays its not worth doing one of these xeon builds here in the uk anymore. 2600, b450, 16gb 3200 = £250 e5 xeon, chinese board, ram = £160. dont get me wrong £90 is £90 but id rather save and pay that £90 extra for a more modern setup.
Howdy, i was curious to see if you would at all review the gaming potential of 2 Xeon E5-2643's on a dual socket X79 motherboard. You can get the processors for a bit above $20 a piece on Aliexpress and they come in at 4C/8T a piece clocked in a 3.3GHz with a 3.6GHz turbo. The dual socket board is from the same brand as the one used in this video and comes in at around $120 or so. I would really appreciate it and i appreciate your time in reading this. Cheers!
I thought about doing a video on a dual socket system, but they aren't super cheap, so it would just be for a single video and not sure how popular it would be.
@@philscomputerlab Completely understandable. That, and using 2 Sandy bridge chips probably would be less beneficial overall than using 2 Ivy bridge ones anyway, also getting 2 Ivy chips with decent clock speeds will probably set one back another $100. not including RAM, $220+ probably wouldnt turn out with decent enough performance to justify the cost anyway, if we're just talking purely gaming. If you do ever decide to do a video on it though, you're guaranteed at least one viewer lol
Comparing the prices of the parts you pay or paid for, my components are much cheaper... I went on Aliexpress and ordered a LGA1356 motherbaord (the one you've got too) for €47,84. Then I ordered an E5-2420 V2 6 core 12 threaded cpu for €8,- and locally I bought 2x8GB ecc ddr3 memory for €10,- per module. I also ordered a socket 2011 motherboard from kllisre for €46,-. I ordered an 8 core 16 threaded E5-2640 V2 for €27,68 and for €40,- I picked 4x8GB ecc modules for also €10,- per module, total €40,- for 32GB of ram. Pretty cheap prices for what I've got. What do you think?
Also it will be nice to see review of huananzhi b75 motherbord with xeon e3 and ecc memory. Some guy on yt test that mb but they don't have ecc memory(bios have option to enable ecc) and he speaks in portugal.
3:03 - well, you always can flash mod bios and get the opportunity to oc 1620/50 to 4.2 ghz, memory to 2133 and change timings. Only problem is I'm not sure does guide how to do it exist in english
Very nice video! What would you recommend, I have a 1150 Mobo, 1 DDR3 8gb (1866mhz) with an i3-4160, was planning to buy a xeon E3-1240 v3 but it's only 4 cores - 8 threads... It would be A LOT better than what I have but for streaming and editing maybe not. My other option is this 2011 combo and recycle my RAM, then maybe buy a cheap DDR3 for my old i3 to use as a spare. I don't know what to do!
In the spirit of the aliexpress motherboards, it would be awesome if you made a video with the Huananzhi X79-8D with dual xeon. Thanks in advance Phil.
I know that what I will say could be taken as against the purpose of this channel, but I would love a video about this type of builds and performance in emulation, but not typical emulation of consoles or things like that, but some experiments as: having an XP emulating or double booting with Android-x86 and trying to play games, running Windows 7 and emulating Windows 10 pushing the hardware to the limits, or having Windows 10 emulating XP and trying to run some selection of powerful games like the ones you always show. What would be the idea behind this? Using this builds to push emulation of other systems to the limits by using all the hardware power while emulating and testing performance, temperature, etc. This could be done by using software like VMware Workstation Player and configuring the emulated computer to the maximum of ram, processor power, etc. that the host can handle. I think it would be a very interesting video. You can test other things: Windows 98 emulation, emulating 3 systems in cascade, crazy things like that! I made some experiments myself like emulating Windows 10 in Windows 7 and booting Android x86 in that emulated Windows 10 and trying to run some Android stuff. But I did that in modern hardware and it's "easier". I would love to make some dedicated computer like the ones you show here only for testing and emulating other operating systems and games. Thank you for all your work! I love your videos!
Would be nice if some server applications were tested, such as linux with apache and stress test. Someone may want to use this CPU for a small business active directory server, SQL, DNS, DHCP.... etc. Good video though.
This is a true bang for the buck, old intel Xeons are the best for the moment. Have you reviwed the E7 models? And are these better in value than the E5 models?
I have a jingsha x79, xeon 2689 and 16gb ECC ram. It runs ok. But the cooler selection is limited. There's no holes in the socket area! Good thing deep cool offers lots of options for cooler mounting. Unless you're ok with clip on amd type coolers. Spent like 180usd for all of it.
Fan of Supermicro stuff too. They do a lot of standard size boards in servers (ATX and EATX), and do workstation boards too (the workstation boards won't have onboard VGA but will have sound). EMC (now merged with Dell) used Supermicro dual 1366 Xeon boards in their Isilon S200 SANs. Standard size boards are much easier to move into normal PC cases to get the noise under control.
@@grahamleiper1538 😊 yup i see them used on ebay alot, i like the ones that are regular ATX full length size, they can b a viable alternative to replacing a damaged oem board, they sometimes have better support for more cpus like Xeon CPUs, sometimes getting an original Dell Precision or HP Z or Lenovo Workstation is more expensive so it mite be better to build ur own with a Supermicro board, it just depends whats available 💻💻💻💻💻
Hi there Phil, I'm new to your channel and I gotta say I enjoyed pretty much all of your vids, especially ones with the old classic setup. Keep up the good work! I've seen many tech youtuber reviewed those Chinese X79 mobos but no update on how they hold up after some time, do they last long (2-3 years maybe) without any problems? Cause I'm planning on building a system based on it and I need to know if they're worth it. Thank you.
I don't think I've used for 3 years, but my current main system consists of the PlexHD X79 Turbo board, a 1650V2 (6 Cores and 3.6 GHz, a good compromise of enough cores and high enough clock speed). 256 GB PCIe NVME, 32 GB DDR3 1866 Registered ECC and a GTX 960. I capture footage on that machine (from the computer projects I build for my videos) and do all the video editing on it! Quite happy, especially the Registered ECC memory is a feature you don't get that easily with consumer hardware. The USB 3 ports turned out flaky, so I got a PCIe USB 3 cards, but apart from that, it's been solid :D
@@philscomputerlab Ohhh nice! Almost exactly what I want to build, some reviews I saw from Aliexpress mentioned about the VRM temperature is somewhat high, but some forum said it was the temp sensor that reads it wrong. Anyways, thank you for the reply, makes up my mind about this build.
Why no one doing SSD tests? We have been seen CPU and VCards tests 100 times a day, but i cant find any tests on SSDs, which ones are better, what 4k blocks speeds are good or bad for cheap SSDs. Make some tests pls.. I feel like no one care about storage, this is sad
I'm glad you have Far Cry in there, but it might be useful to expand your list of games with other CPU heavy games. It's not that informational to test these old CPU's with primarily CPU-light games. I might recommend GTA5 with draw distance sliders maxed, Assassin's Creed - Odyssey, or Kingdom Come - Deliverance in the main city Rattay.
I still like my E5-1650 V2(xeon version of the 4930K), I have it clocked to 4.3Ghz and it doesn't have to many issues other than I don't think my GA-x79-UD3 doesn't like my ram.
Hi phil you should look on aliexpress for the ssd because now in 11/11 they gonna be some insane offers for example im going to buy an 720gb ssd for 34 euros
Watching this video on my dual Kllisre 2 x E5-2689 16c/32t with 64 gb ram! Decided to go for it and buy (from aliexpress) /assemble this monster of a PC after having watched your previous videos. Absolutely no regrets! So please keep on with this excellent work of yours... really looking forward to when the next (old) generation of LGA 2011-3 server CPUs will become cheap and plenty on aliexpress!
I think the 2630v3 will be the next gem if ddr4 ecc ram dumps in price
Would you say that it's worth it to buy that kind of system for gaming, or is 32 threads overkill?
I just ordered a e5 2689 with 32gb quad channel ram in this board combo
Im very exited about what I have been seeing on youtube about this beast server cpu
are you having any issues withe memory ? unmatched sticks, running hot or misslabled ?
fft2020 I wanna buy this combo too. What gpu did u pair it up with? And do u notice any bottle necks? I seen videos of people pairing a 2080 and still works great
@@Manyangles I had a RX560 but last month I got a RX570 and It is awesome, I play Kingdom Come in very high (or even ultra) with almost always 60fps, and Assassins Creed Origin also in Ultra with around 60 fps ... the limit is really the GPU... All the 16(!!!) cores are very relaxed even ACO that is said to be CPU intensive I see activity in most cores of 50% or less. again, INSANE AMOUNT of cores
This cpu is now around 30 USD. Still my favorite platform. I've bought a few of these types of recycled chipset boards and it works pretty well.
now you can get 2 for 11 bucks
5 dollars lol
I just ordered Huananzhi ZD3 motherboard for my 2nd PC and I was thinking about CPU like that - cheap, 8/16, kinda high clock speed and with low TDP. And you know, your video was released just in time, thank you Phill!
e5 2689 2.6 stock but with turbo will reach 3.6gz
I just ordered a e5 2689 with 32gb quad channel ram in this board combo
@@fft2020 what happend tell me did you activate the turbo mode in bios
@@SuperKingpresident AFAIK only one of the core can burst into turbo mode, not all, no? If so, is it still such a great proposition?
Hell has frozen over! Phil has a current gen near flagship GPU?!?! :P
Nah, that's too good to be true
wow I didn't know big time celebrity Influencers also watch phil... makes me feel like I have an iq of 250
much love to phil & Timothy Joe my two most frequented tech channels along with Tech Yes City
Seems Fortnite ep.2 prefers newer CPUs. Tech Yes Brian solved the microstuter problems with turning the shadows off and post processing to low. I don't personally play it, but bummer for those shadows.
I thought people already turned shadows off for competitive play
I also think he had an FPS cap in Fortnite ruclips.net/video/mWc8-cD8iYo/видео.html
@@Solrak8O I think he put an FPS cap only on one machine which had framerate dips even after setting shadows and post processing.
@@Solrak8O He did...120FPS.
@Ayy Yo I suppose you do not. The PC's are for many things, to include Fortnite for the kids. These were the recommendations of Tech Yes City when it comes to stutters, and it worked for me.
That being said, I always thought that Software/HW on gaming stations was particularly optimized, outside of PC.
The Witcher 3 stuttering issue is a frametime problem on some machines, try the rivatuner framerate limiter, and that will be smooth the frametime and heal the stuttering
"Riva" Tuner to fix The Witcher 3 issues.
Legend
If you run it on a Radeon, there will be stutter. It was very big into Nvidia’s Gameworks, so any pre Kepler Nvidia card, or any Radeon will stutter a lot in it.
not true about radeon part, i never stuttered in it with R9 390X, i believe he suffered from ddr3 ram which was trying to use full bandwidth of RX 5700 as well as 8 16 instead of 4 8(which will result in reduced experience in a few games, on such old hw especially), lack of ram MHz even in dual channel will result in a messy experience, as was suggested here, fps lock will fix that issue because it will reduce the load of gpu which is struggling from cpu and ram mhz
László Hajós gsync works wonders for that game
Ahh love your videos! I have built 2 pc's under 300€ that can handle very heavy load. All thanks to you I got interrsted in the older "less known" yet very effective processors and I just might try this one out!
What other processor did you use?
Man that mainboard looks pretty slick imo
Would love to see company fiddle more the color lay out like the early 2000's
Boards were exciting back then not that they are not now but something keep dissappears
In this vast abyss of hardware
That board reminds me of my old athlon xp system. Bright colors!
Frame time freezes could be memory speed. In a video by randomgaminghd he was experiencing these issues on older hardware and a memory overclock cleaned it up.
Another great video. Following your video (a different one), I ordered a E5-2620V2 (6 core, 12 threads @ 2.1GHz base freq), with a X79 (Killspre) bundle with 16GB DDR3. IMHO that is a great value too, at just about half the price. Of course, my use is not for gaming but a home lab.
Do you use it for virtualization?
Yes, running bare KVM guests, but plan to have a full OpenStack cluster eventually.
Recently upgraded my nas to this processor from E5-2620 v2, get 2 more cores, and half a gigahertz base frequency boost, all for 10€. Now Plex has no problem transcoding 4k videos on the fly anymore, so this is a win.
Thanks to you Phil, I'm now running a Huanan X79 board with a E5-2650V2 since your first socket 2011 video released. But I have to say, that CPU is quite honestly one of the best bang for the buck Xeon you can get for this socket, considering it runs nice and cool, it has decent clockspeeds, and runs all the games I play on 1080p 60+ fps with a GTX 970. Only thing I definitely had to do was add a fancontroller, because the fan controller on the motherboard causes the fans to spin at 100%, because the temp sensor on the VRM says the VRM is at 500 degree Celsius, which is definitely not true...
Thanks for the feedback, good to hear that it worked out for you!
Please keep putting out 2011 videos. Love mine!!!!
Ha! Made me laugh. Sounded like an insult.
Huge leap forward in the quality of your videos!
I was online window shopping and stumbled into Huananzhi X99 motherboard on AliExpress. Now, this one is a bit special, as it has actively cooled VRM, and 8 RAM slots. Now, when I say 8, I mean 4 DDR4 and 4 DDR3. The first thing that popped into my head was: "Is this real life", and the second was: "I've got to tell Phil about this one!" :D
Yea X99 could be interesting, I haven't looked into it properly yet. But seems the model numbers are the same, just with a V3 at the end :D
"It lets me test at 1080p [...] and avoid any bottleneck situations"
Let me introduce you to Read Dead Redemption 2. :D
Only if you can get that game to open considering it's optimisation
Well, when you are buying this kind of gear, you are not buying for the top performance in the newest games. But i did lol when i saw the RDR 2 performance on new pc’s.
After finally getting it to launch, I'm surprised how well it runs. I'm running at 1440 and the benchmark averaged 80 fps. I left the graphics at what it selected, most are high, a few ultra, some medium, some low, but the game looks great.
@@TE5LA-GAMING this CPU is great 4 cores plus is always better
Ok cowpoke
Great video. Surprised I just saw this video today. Been following the channel for awhile. I have two of these processors in my Dell T5610 workstation. I got lucky and got a second hand one maxed out with 128 GBs of RAM. I put a GTX 1070 in it and called it done. It does everything I need it to from video and photo editing and gaming.
So let me build a hipothetical build:
32gb ram + Xeon E5-2650V2 + X79P LGA 2011 motherboard
$172.50
RX 580 8gb (Used) 100$
PSU (around 60$)
1tb m.2 SSD (round 120$)
Cheap case (around 60$)
Cooler (Ruffly 40$)
That is a ruffly 560$ PC which gives you very good performance, more than enough storage and ram, 8 cores, a GPU with 8gb Vram for about the same price as the MSRP of the Xbox One X.
If you save a bit on the SSD and PSU you can shrink that down to the cost of an Xbox One X + 1 game.
That is a very interesting value option. I'd personally go with a Ryzen 1. gen System for the upgrade path and better performance, but I can not denie that this is a damn interesting option for budget gamers and content creators.
Always good to watch your videos on Friday Phil. A great transition into the weekend.
The problems with stutters in some games can be down to certain graphics settings. I used to think "oh well shadows are rendered by the GPU so why would the CPU have anything to do with it". But getting more into that stuff i saw a video that explained why games prefer higher clocks over more cores.
Love to see these older cpus crunching a render or hardware encoder for streaming etc
Been using this cpu for 3 years now and honestly was the best cpu I’d ever bought for $55 the only time I’m starting to see it struggle is in warzone! But now it’s going for around $10 on eBay which is a steal in my book price to performance wise. Although I’m also thinking to upgrading to the x99 platform with an intel xeon 2699 v3 as I also render a lot in blender and unity.
In 2024 you can now pickup this E5 1650V2 in 16Gb RAM and motherboard combos for only $50-55! Granteda at that price they normally have 1600mhz RAM kits and the boards tend to be the cheaper single channel supporting versions, but for the price its still a very good deal. For the quad channel board combos with 1866mhz RAM kits, they can be found for around $70-80.
Pair that with an aliexpress RX 580 for $80, a cheap case and a decent power supply and you can have some very enjoyable 1080p gaming for only $200 in 2024! (or around $230 if you go for the better boards and RAM)
the security mitigations cause lower performance disable it yes tech city tried and it worked very well
Can you give the link of the video man. I might have seen that but not sure.
@@mafyatekin just search for tech yest city here in youtube
Nice video Phil
Good job and informative as always!
Thanks! That was a nice video for me
I somehow got the exact same chip for a dollar from AliExpress, what a steal.
I believe the Fortnite frametime spikes are from Rivatuner. I've tested the game on a couple different machines and have experienced the same issue when I was using the OSD.
Love the videos, so informative. Got myself a second hand 4970k 4 years ago. No reason to upgrade yet. Paired it with a GF 1060 and 16gb ram. 1080p full details 60fps gaming for £300.
@Narkomancers my post is from 2 years ago.
✅ I bought my "new" PC after saw your video of the E5-2689, the performance in games and rendering videos is very good for the price. The E5-2650V2 looks good and it will be a good buy for sure! Thank you very much Phil, your videos are so useful. Cheers!
So which one should i buy
@@Ayoub-wg3tw @Ayoub Hi! Well, the E5 2650 V2 have a 95W TDP vs the 115W of the 2689, the 2650 it's a little bit colder. Same price, same performance, less hot. The 2650 v2 May be the best option today. Cheers!
BitsAndTips
Thx bro
Thinking of using one of these xeons for a build for my little brother. I was going to just make a cheap R3 1200 build, since I thought he'd only play esports games, but turns out he streams and edits videos. Knowing this channel turned out to be a lifesaver for choosing an adequate build 😅
As a xeon user, you best take a look at the passmark scores, Ryzen is the better budget build and highly upgrade able.
@@lonniebeal6032 I used to look at the PassMark scores but in the last month or so all of the Xeon scores have dropped by thousands of points and I no longer find them a useful reference. For example, my E5-1650 v3 gets a score of ~13,800 from the software, which was very close to the website's 13,500, putting it on par with the R5 2600. However, about a month ago, all the scores dropped on Xeons and now the website says it has an average score of 10,200, which is MUCH lower than what my CPU actually gets. I wonder what happened?
@@pooki-dookimmmm that smell's fishy
@@fidonol It was an update from Passmark 9 to Passmark 10 that changed all the numbers. Something about Passmark 10 favours newer CPUs and I think it might be an instruction set thing.
I always liked ivy bridge 🙂
I bought an e5-2670 v1 which has identical clock speeds and core count for $20
Yes it is great value. It consumed more power as it is based on Sandy Bridge architecture and a little bit slower per clock.
@@philscomputerlab yeah I’m enjoying the performance but it’s not quite as good as I want for watch dogs legion so I might upgrade to an e5-2667 v2 or 2687w v2 as they turbo to 3.6 on all cores
@@ravioli0239 For example I use LGA 2011 system as my main video editing PC. I found a 1650V2 faster (has only 6 Cores, but runs 3.6 GHz) than 2650V2 with more cores. Especially the actual editing and working with the timeline is so much better with the higher clock speed. The video encoding feels the same, yes you get more cores, but they also run slower. It's all a matter of power in the end and if you want more cores AND high clock speed you need to look at more modern platforms. BUT if the performance is good enough, then LGA 2011 is such good value.
@@philscomputerlab from what I can tell according to passmark the e5-2667 v2 performs similarly to a ryzen 7 1700 which I think should be good enough for quite a few years to come. My current cpu isn’t much better in single thread performance than my previous one but the extra cores and threads have been useful when it comes to gaming which I was surprised about
I have this cpu and it's great , i tried to disable hyperthreading in the bios and that gave me about 15 to 20% more fps. I hope that you can make a video comparing the gaming results with and without hyperthreading.
how is that possible? shouldnt hyperthreading increases performance?
Built 3 of these with the Chinese X79 MB. Solid. E-5-2650V2, E5-2680, E5-2696V2. I bought 13x8GB ECC ram for $105. Easy builds.
My comments to show support for your Videos are as follows. -Big Thumbs Up
Great Video again Phil.
Oh, hey Phil. Fancy meeting you here.
The frametime stutter is specifically related to the RX 5700. There are issues with it aggressively down clocking, which are posted all over reddit. No driver or vbios can fix it, not that anyone knows of. I ended up selling my 5700 XT because of it. Try any other radeon or nvidia card, but not the 5700 series.
Look for a NVME drive with pciex adapter for test games. Very fast access for small files. And another sata ssd just for boot compatibility purposes.
Yeah,but it wont work as a boot drive
i think that with the new consoles on the horizon having a 8 core 16 thread cpu will be a safe bet.
Man you have to be careful because this processor have 8 cores, but the IPC is low and not only that you can't OC much this CPU. The new consoles probably will use a Ryzen CPU with higher IPC and 8 cores and is not the same power compared to this old xeon. In games actually you need IPC not cores in the 99% of cases. In future games will be using more cores for shure but you will need more than that to be at today standards.
@@Faxtron i agree, but the thing is that these videos are for people that doenst have the money to invest in modern hardware or new consoles.
so this is like an option.
When buying from AliExpress, videotape the unboxing and steps in the assembly, to show evidence if you end up returning a bad board. I had to show that the CPU was good (thank goodness I had a spare) and the tests of the Power Supply. What a pain, but I did get my money back...save for return postage and import duties. Yuk.
Some seller also do this. They film the board being tested. I had one board with just 1 RAM slot working, and luckily it showed up in the sellers video! But I'm only aware of a few handful doing this.
@@philscomputerlab For the most part, my experience with AliE is a good one. I should mention that too!
great review as always
You finally upgraded!
I feel like older xeon processors are going to be a new budget craze since all these Chinese motherboards are coming out of China because they're updating their servers as long as you got a decent gpu you can get stuff well above 60 fpfs you'd most likely want to get a 3060 if you're going budget but anything above that Vram should also be amazing especially if your using it for work purposes.
Keep up the good work man
Sweet processor and setup! Your screen capture looks to get pixellated sometimes.
Had a Xeon E3-1230v2 just enough for my 1060 (I7-3770 had +10% perf VS a 1230 V2 for anyone asking what to compare it to)
@Gandharv Mohan bro I'm I'm getting tis chip in the said vid now ahahaha omg, my 1230v2 was. Just bought last year.
100 mhz more isn't 10% more
A 1650v2 benchmarks very close to a Ryzen 5 1600. I have an old C602 board that will be getting one of those and a used 1060 - that should last a good while I imagine.
I want one. Right now I'm using an quad-core i7, and I have a pile of DDR3 lying around.
Great Job Phil!! IT's a shame the mobo as issues because not only is being new a cool feature but the color combo is also really awesome too!!!
Hey Phil, thanks for the video. I was just wondering if you turn off the meltdown/specter update on these xeons while testing and if you don’t, can you make a video on how it effects the performance? Thanks again.
I don't do any special optimisations, just BIOS defaults and Windows 10 with all latest updates.
Yes I do that on my old xeons. Gave them some tech yes loving with inspectre. Seemed to make a big difference in tabs totally accurate battle simulator. Will try and do comparison one time!
@@philscomputerlab You should really look into that
@@philscomputerlab techyes has a guide to do it, it would be a cool way to kind of collab with him
O.o
I got to watch this video.
I got to 2x E7-4860 V2 for almost nothing. Was a steal. Waiting for my X79 board to arrive.
I got the cheapest China x58 board & paired with X5677 Quad. It actually boosts to 3.6Ghz
but I've only gotten 2 dims to work although it's a 4 dim board. Only supports 4gb sticks I believe. But I think the one of the RAM sticks I had was defective.
I'm going to put the x 58 in the case as a final test. But been running battlefield with the 780 ti for a long while on it.
Return the E7 4860 v2 they are cheap for a reason they don't work on x79
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@@kruxdt6307 thanks for the tip. Intel always finding a way to fk us.
I just bought it 2 weeks ago with x79 motherboard, now I am using it with my gtx 750 1gb with 8gb ddr3 ram and a 250gb ssd. The pc is a beast for under £100 and it runs fortnite with high setting 1080p with over 144fps even streaming on twitch the cpu is under 25% and the gpu runs slightly over 85%. I belive the gpu can be upgraded gtx 1080ti and the cpu will still not be bottleneck.
Washik i have an fx 6300 and a 960 i was thinking about upgrading to a ryzen 3, do you think i should just get the xeon instead?
@@mat.e.5 how much is ryzen 3 in your country?
Washik well they can vary from 60-130 depending which you buy
We miss ur content bro
This cpu is around $16 now
Damn gudvalue
Yes, I know this is a really old video, but I had an odd question... did you happen to test the memory at slower speeds to see if it made much difference? I doubt it, but I thought I'd ask. I have some (8x4GB sticks) old ECC registered server memory at 1066 just lying around and I'm looking at throwing it at a socket 2011 board, maybe one of these Chinese boards or maybe an HP Z420 workstation, and was wondering if slow memory would hold things back too much or if there's enough cache to smooth it out. With that much RAM I could probably build out two systems but I would like to know whether or not DDR3-1066 would be worthwhile to use or if I should just get some 1600/1866 stuff.
Did manage to get locally an ASUS P9X79Pro with original box and accessories (all mint) for... ... ...$20!!! Also, an E5-1650V2 (local listing in country) for $62 delivered. The deals are out there if you are patient and monitoring the mkt. This is my main system and I run it at 4.4GHz, no issues.
Also, the HuananZhi X79 deluxe paired to an E5-4627V2 (8C/8T) running all core 3.5Ghz (this CPU cost me $96 delivered, on eBay. Prices have since spiked to $150, apparently). This is my eldest child's PC.
I am planning to get a xeon kit. Which one is better for gaming at 1080p e5-2650 v2 or e5-2689 ?
The 2689 is a little bit faster, but runs a lot hotter.
@@philscomputerlabwould snowmen cooler be enough or should I invest more into a better cooler ?
Just xeon and it's value is a thing of pure beauty
The old cheap ones yes. The new 25k cpus hell no lol.
I personally have a 1156 mobo with a xeon 3460 and i get high settings 60-80 fps on a lot of games. Sometimes mid but only to get over that 60 fps.
@@joelguzman9280 i have a xeon e5 2689 and a Plex hd mobo lga 2011 with a 1070ti and 16 gigs quad channel... streaming and gaming is butter smooth
@@Somkills oof i bet. I have a rx580. Im hoping to move onto a ryzen build later but for now i have no problems with my little xeon. Honestly for 17$ this 4 core is a beast. Im positive yours is far better.
@@joelguzman9280 yup 8cores 16thread and that 25mb l3 cache...just makes every game run at 1080p high settings at 100+ fps
just the ease of native windows 7 support makes these systems still valuable to me , i have a ryzen 7 1700 on a x370 asus prime motherboard and yet my main system is still my core i7 4930k on my sabertooth x79 i still use windows 7 ultimate as my main platform ive managed to get amazing backwards compatibility on 7 Ultimate compared to newer operating systems
I have noticed that lowering the frame cap will help with frame time spikes. This is however not a guarantee. I've had this issue with Witcher as well and since I lowered the frame cap it helped
I use a Xeon in my rig also. A quick note though, a large number of cores doesn't benefit games much. You want fewer, faster cores. But, if you're like me and like to have a 1000 (not an exaggeration) Chrome tabs open, it helps.
With prices of the 2689 on the rise(thanks to youtube mostly I presume) the 2650 v2 is a great option. It delivers performance on the level of the Ryzen 7 1700, runs very cool and will hit the boost clocks even on the cheapest motherboards due to his efficiency. My girlfriend has this CPU running with a GTX 1080 in a cheap Jingsha and 32gb of ecc memory. She was killing her previous machine with uncountable chrome tabs so I had to ensure there is enough ram xD
Yea my current main rigg is running a 1650V2 OC to 4 GHz, but I will need this CPU to test a new motherboard. So I will install the 2650V2 permanently, it should do just fine for producing my videos :)
Hi Phil, I have experienced issues regarding frame time spikes and found for some game titles by reducing / removing shadow details can either eliminate or reduce frame time spikes in some game titles.
Hey Phil... I'm surprised the turbo for this CPU is only 3ghz, since the intel website lists turbo of 3.4ghz
Great vid. No SLI but any CrossFire support? If not, Vulkan should make it work anyway.
Yea CF works!
From a value perspective I think these lga 2011 systems will always be overshadowed by 1st Gen ryzen. Definitely a fun setup though. I watched this on to the way to work, such a good way to start the day. You're videos are for the connesiuor of pc enthusiasts lol. Cheers!
ddw dw Hi, I have been looking more and more into building a Xeon processor based gaming pc, some of the specs are close to some of the top of the line i7 processors.
What I am trying to understand is how is it possible that a 1st Gen Ryzen gets a better benchmark score than a higher specs Xeon processor and how do they Compare in terms of processing power compared to the intel Core series.
Thank you for you help guys.
@@TheRiddimselecta Hey, it basically comes down to the clockspeeds and IPC. Even though the Xeon may have a higher core count, it's not enough to make up for what it lacks in clockspeeds (a full gigahert or more in some cases) and IPC. The supported memory speeds are slower (1600mhz vs 3200mhz), and the Spectre/meltdown patches hurt the older Intel's as well unless you install an older version of Windows 10.
@@doug2bitemore this is accurate. i used to have a 1366 xeon 6 core build and although it was snappy a ryzen 6 core build would hands down beat it. for what ryzen is costing nowadays its not worth doing one of these xeon builds here in the uk anymore.
2600, b450, 16gb 3200 = £250
e5 xeon, chinese board, ram = £160.
dont get me wrong £90 is £90 but id rather save and pay that £90 extra for a more modern setup.
Howdy, i was curious to see if you would at all review the gaming potential of 2 Xeon E5-2643's on a dual socket X79 motherboard. You can get the processors for a bit above $20 a piece on Aliexpress and they come in at 4C/8T a piece clocked in a 3.3GHz with a 3.6GHz turbo. The dual socket board is from the same brand as the one used in this video and comes in at around $120 or so. I would really appreciate it and i appreciate your time in reading this. Cheers!
I thought about doing a video on a dual socket system, but they aren't super cheap, so it would just be for a single video and not sure how popular it would be.
@@philscomputerlab Completely understandable. That, and using 2 Sandy bridge chips probably would be less beneficial overall than using 2 Ivy bridge ones anyway, also getting 2 Ivy chips with decent clock speeds will probably set one back another $100. not including RAM, $220+ probably wouldnt turn out with decent enough performance to justify the cost anyway, if we're just talking purely gaming. If you do ever decide to do a video on it though, you're guaranteed at least one viewer lol
That HDD shaped enclosure. It took me a second to realize what was going on 'cause it looks just like a dang hard drive.
Good video Phil !what you think about dual 2650 v2?add more dual core builds too if you can.👍👍👍
Comparing the prices of the parts you pay or paid for, my components are much cheaper...
I went on Aliexpress and ordered a LGA1356 motherbaord (the one you've got too) for €47,84. Then I ordered an E5-2420 V2 6 core 12 threaded cpu for €8,- and locally I bought 2x8GB ecc ddr3 memory for €10,- per module.
I also ordered a socket 2011 motherboard from kllisre for €46,-. I ordered an 8 core 16 threaded E5-2640 V2 for €27,68 and for €40,- I picked 4x8GB ecc modules for also €10,- per module, total €40,- for 32GB of ram.
Pretty cheap prices for what I've got. What do you think?
Also it will be nice to see review of huananzhi b75 motherbord with xeon e3 and ecc memory. Some guy on yt test that mb but they don't have ecc memory(bios have option to enable ecc) and he speaks in portugal.
3:03 - well, you always can flash mod bios and get the opportunity to oc 1620/50 to 4.2 ghz, memory to 2133 and change timings. Only problem is I'm not sure does guide how to do it exist in english
Very nice video!
What would you recommend, I have a 1150 Mobo, 1 DDR3 8gb (1866mhz) with an i3-4160, was planning to buy a xeon E3-1240 v3 but it's only 4 cores - 8 threads... It would be A LOT better than what I have but for streaming and editing maybe not.
My other option is this 2011 combo and recycle my RAM, then maybe buy a cheap DDR3 for my old i3 to use as a spare.
I don't know what to do!
In the spirit of the aliexpress motherboards, it would be awesome if you made a video with the Huananzhi X79-8D with dual xeon. Thanks in advance Phil.
Big fan of your videos. Curious as to what you're using for a test bench? It looks very simple and well built.
Search for High Speed Test PC.
@@philscomputerlab in google? Or on your channel ?
@@stevenwilliams6638 . Google search this term -- highspeedpc . It will give you the exact website .
I know that what I will say could be taken as against the purpose of this channel, but I would love a video about this type of builds and performance in emulation, but not typical emulation of consoles or things like that, but some experiments as: having an XP emulating or double booting with Android-x86 and trying to play games, running Windows 7 and emulating Windows 10 pushing the hardware to the limits, or having Windows 10 emulating XP and trying to run some selection of powerful games like the ones you always show. What would be the idea behind this? Using this builds to push emulation of other systems to the limits by using all the hardware power while emulating and testing performance, temperature, etc. This could be done by using software like VMware Workstation Player and configuring the emulated computer to the maximum of ram, processor power, etc. that the host can handle. I think it would be a very interesting video. You can test other things: Windows 98 emulation, emulating 3 systems in cascade, crazy things like that! I made some experiments myself like emulating Windows 10 in Windows 7 and booting Android x86 in that emulated Windows 10 and trying to run some Android stuff. But I did that in modern hardware and it's "easier". I would love to make some dedicated computer like the ones you show here only for testing and emulating other operating systems and games. Thank you for all your work! I love your videos!
Yea that sounds interesting, but not my cup of tea at all I'm afraid!
@@philscomputerlab Yeah, I understand. Thank you for the answer! Looking forward your new videos! See ya!
Would be nice if some server applications were tested, such as linux with apache and stress test. Someone may want to use this CPU for a small business active directory server, SQL, DNS, DHCP.... etc. Good video though.
2689 vs 2650 v2??
Put that baby in a Hypervisor build. All the threads and ECC memory!
This is a true bang for the buck, old intel Xeons are the best for the moment.
Have you reviwed the E7 models? And are these better in value than the E5 models?
E7 need a special socket lga2011-1
I have a jingsha x79, xeon 2689 and 16gb ECC ram. It runs ok. But the cooler selection is limited. There's no holes in the socket area! Good thing deep cool offers lots of options for cooler mounting. Unless you're ok with clip on amd type coolers. Spent like 180usd for all of it.
Ah yes, some boards don't have the 2011 socket.
Hi Phill one question here I use the e5 2689 would you recommend this one or stay the way it is thanks mate love your channel
I think your cpu should be good for a while
hi, did you manually overclock sa processor to 3ghz or this automatically happens when gaming? thanks
A friend of mine has brought concerns of Chinese spyware being embedded into the firmware of chips bought off AliExpress and Ebay.
Embedding spyware into second-hand enthusiast hardware? To what end?
@@Avengerie ....i believe the logical answer would be to spy
@@bluescluessuperagent it's not a logical answer if you consider who buys them
Recently I got an old Supermicro brand motherboard for 2x X5690 processors. Was surprised how good it is. Better than Intel. Maybe worth a look.
🙂 its a popular brand in the server world
Fan of Supermicro stuff too. They do a lot of standard size boards in servers (ATX and EATX), and do workstation boards too (the workstation boards won't have onboard VGA but will have sound). EMC (now merged with Dell) used Supermicro dual 1366 Xeon boards in their Isilon S200 SANs. Standard size boards are much easier to move into normal PC cases to get the noise under control.
@@grahamleiper1538 😊 yup i see them used on ebay alot, i like the ones that are regular ATX full length size, they can b a viable alternative to replacing a damaged oem board, they sometimes have better support for more cpus like Xeon CPUs, sometimes getting an original Dell Precision or HP Z or Lenovo Workstation is more expensive so it mite be better to build ur own with a Supermicro board, it just depends whats available 💻💻💻💻💻
Which is better
AMD ryzen 5 1600x or e5-2689 for gaming ? Is 80$ worth it to upgrade to ryzen ?
The Ryzen is better, so if you can afford the extra money, go for it!
Hey Phil what do reckon the possibilities of running hackintosh on this motherboard, this could be an incredibly inexpensive build.
I can get an used R5 1600 for ~80$ and an A320 motherboard for under 50$. This would perform way better and the platform is ready for future upgrades.
62 usd go to e5 2689 with turbo could reach 3.6gz for 1 core
Hi there Phil, I'm new to your channel and I gotta say I enjoyed pretty much all of your vids, especially ones with the old classic setup. Keep up the good work!
I've seen many tech youtuber reviewed those Chinese X79 mobos but no update on how they hold up after some time, do they last long (2-3 years maybe) without any problems? Cause I'm planning on building a system based on it and I need to know if they're worth it.
Thank you.
I don't think I've used for 3 years, but my current main system consists of the PlexHD X79 Turbo board, a 1650V2 (6 Cores and 3.6 GHz, a good compromise of enough cores and high enough clock speed). 256 GB PCIe NVME, 32 GB DDR3 1866 Registered ECC and a GTX 960. I capture footage on that machine (from the computer projects I build for my videos) and do all the video editing on it! Quite happy, especially the Registered ECC memory is a feature you don't get that easily with consumer hardware. The USB 3 ports turned out flaky, so I got a PCIe USB 3 cards, but apart from that, it's been solid :D
@@philscomputerlab Ohhh nice! Almost exactly what I want to build, some reviews I saw from Aliexpress mentioned about the VRM temperature is somewhat high, but some forum said it was the temp sensor that reads it wrong.
Anyways, thank you for the reply, makes up my mind about this build.
Why no one doing SSD tests? We have been seen CPU and VCards tests 100 times a day, but i cant find any tests on SSDs, which ones are better, what 4k blocks speeds are good or bad for cheap SSDs. Make some tests pls.. I feel like no one care about storage, this is sad
Ok good point, might include one in future videos!
I'm glad you have Far Cry in there, but it might be useful to expand your list of games with other CPU heavy games. It's not that informational to test these old CPU's with primarily CPU-light games. I might recommend GTA5 with draw distance sliders maxed, Assassin's Creed - Odyssey, or Kingdom Come - Deliverance in the main city Rattay.
I still like my E5-1650 V2(xeon version of the 4930K), I have it clocked to 4.3Ghz and it doesn't have to many issues other than I don't think my GA-x79-UD3 doesn't like my ram.
How about performance for other than gaming? like compilers or 3D and video editing?
i would love something like that too. my gentoo won't compile on a weak cpu :P
Phil, do you have a link to that startech enclosure that you are using? Or just the model number? I can't find it anywhere on the web
I can't recommend it, it's only good with large files, but terrible with small ones. I have a proper 2TB SSD now!
Hi phil you should look on aliexpress for the ssd because now in 11/11 they gonna be some insane offers for example im going to buy an 720gb ssd for 34 euros
The X5660 is more than perfectly balanced coming at 12 euros.
And it's unlocked.
But X58 Motherboards Are Expensive
@@AJ-mv7ef yeah too bad.
But i got a Rampage 3 extreme for 100 euros.
Talk about a deal.
I dont think that any of the X56XX series xeons are Unlocked. You can do BCLK OC however if yr MB supports it.
Hi Phil would you recommended the cooler you used