@@magzire Just the slightly older CPUs, especially in Xeon and higher end desktop CPUs. GRC has a tool that is called InSpectre that will tell you if it is affecting your CPU you can download for free and do a partial disable. In short some years back CPUs started using code to make educated guesses at what would be executed on it next, and would preload some of them and if it was right it would execute that saving allot of time by being more efficient. AMD and Intel both did it, but Intel was more aggressive with it. Then some smart security researches after coming up with some impressive RAM security hacks, wondered if they could do similar stuff with Speculative Execution and called it Spectre, and that lead to another weakness, and another and another going back for the better part of a decade. AMD was affected by some of the first stuff, but much of the later stuff depended on Intel's more aggressive versions of it that AMD didn't use. The only fix was to turn it off, so the tech making the chips fast and powerful was gutted. Game servers all over the place that were "good enough" suddenly were staining. In some rare cases certain game servers lost over 45% or their performance overnight. The good thing is that there has been no uses of these exploits showing up in the wild and as of now, all of them require hardware access to the computer to use it. In most cases if you turn it off you will be fine. Also allot of the performance issues with server software was fixed by tweaking the software, but there is still almost an average of 20% performance hit compared to before. I have the patches on my AMD CPU disabled, but only see a small difference, your results may vary.
Well its on aliexpress for so long time, just people are not aware of it. Shame that today people dont do research by themselves instead of waiting for yt to bring it up
people say the same thing about every tech video. this cpu has been readily available forever, and if you want to use a decent board its not cost efficient over ryzen.
@@monsterzero9456 a 2600 set up with board and ram in the uk is £300. £370 with a 3600. these older xeon boards are circa £150. i know because i run a xeon setup but i use a non oc board. with an oc p6t asus board itd have set me back £250 with ram and cpu, so not worth it.
@@kruxdt6307 I already saw some that look pretty good on AliExpress, but the CPU prices still keep me away from it. Also, the motherboards that look decent are all 100€ and up, so not really worth it.
@@OM-jc9mh if you use ddr3 memory in quad channel, you should get about the same bandwidth as a decent dual channel ddr4 kit. In this case, ddr3 shouldn't matter too much for gaming
@@eug3nius Yet HK people are holding up american flags, wishing for America to help them? Singing the national anthem, saying they wish they had a 2nd amendment
Swift's Tech Talks That’s why I said that. America doesn’t give a crap about HK ppl, to the American elite they’re just geopolitical pawns in the conflict with a rival empire. Just like the Ukrainians were.
Phil's channel is great. I see Phil everywhere lately, in other channels, like LGR, in online forums, and even in posts of products for sale that he reviewed and the sellers use his videos! A few days ago I bought a retro soundcard and in the post there were photos and a Video from Phil's channel. On ebay looking for a Gotek Floppy Emulator, there was also a video of Phil. This shows that he covers many interesting topics and that it is doing a very good job.
Brian spreading thermal paste using his bare hand while "I Wish That I Was a Mad Man" playing in the background is the best thing I've seen & heard today.
Ever since watching his videos I spread tim using my finger and see no difference. it only matters if going sub zero. then the oils from your hands can present problems.
Thank you so much for the help with the 570s. Ill be trying to flash them today. I also really appreciate you helping get the most out of some of this older tech. You have been a real inspiration to me in a time when I really needed it.
I installed an E5-4627 (V2) 3.3 Ghz base clock (that turbos on all cores to 3.5Ghz), 8C/8T (no HT!); has run cool and successfully on HuananZhi X79 deluxe, paired with GTX 980 and 32GB DDR3 1600 REEC, it scores on CB: R15 =965, R20=2060. I got it for $80 plus $14 shipping via eBay. Not too bad, not bad at all.
Amazing performance out of a x79 Xeon. I just decked out my x58 dell rig. I just added a 2nd 5675 and 8 GB more of RAM to 24GB of RAM and a GTX 1660. I may try out those spectre and meltdown registry entries at a later time.
@@renegade25_banhammertech_40 You can get a Ryzen 2600 for 97€ on Aliexpress: fr.aliexpress.com/item/33031973977.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000014.9.2784173dCL90qd&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.13338.146400.0&scm_id=1007.13338.146400.0&scm-url=1007.13338.146400.0&pvid=7a326ab2-f944-41ba-86d5-66a251540ff9&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.13338.146400.0,pvid:7a326ab2-f944-41ba-86d5-66a251540ff9,tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%2318_668%23808%234093%23793_668%23888%233325%2320
@@renegade25_banhammertech_40 now you can get ryzen 5 1600af 6 cores 12 threads, for 85$ but due to some reasons it has risen to 150, will drop in some time.
I picked up a 2689 with ASUS Sabertooth X79, 48GB DDR3, 2 WD Blue 500GB HDDs, Corsair H60 liquid cooler w/fan - all for $225 about 6 months ago! It absolutely flies! Love it!
I had this exact same CPU + motherboard combination and two GTX 960 4gb running in SLI (I had them around collecting dust so I used them), definitely not very power efficient but gets job done very well. Consumer grade i7 does gaming better though imo
Bro you are the Xeon King! Plus that Ghostbusters theme and plug was dope man! I gotta learn how to disable spectere and meltdown also, I see it yields high results. Solid man 💪🏾
i mean it's not like a lot of people on a tight budget will switch to intel/amd current gen production if they somehow shut down the cheap xeons... people with small budget will just be left with nothing or something like 2c/4t pentiums
Purchased Used Thinkstation P500 E5-1650v3 and Matched with RX 5700XT. I am so gladed I watched your video. The workstation was experiencing stuttering and freeze during normal operation or shutdown. I did lasted BIOS Update and your Spectre Regedit. I am still monitoring my workstation hoping that it does not froze. After the Regedit, It's been consistent. Thank you.
I built 6 systems using this setup with a different aliexpress board, and the results have been phenomenal. All my kids have this setup with 32gb Quad Channel, 2060s , e5 2689, 1gb nvme.. and they all stream with no FPS loss. Also, there is a Russian modified bios out , for the board I use to allow overclocking on the board , and boost performance a little more, or use unlocked xeons to really overclock.
I built/modified three platforms for myself and my two kids. One, a Dell Precision T5600 dual E5-2667, one HuananZhi X79 deluxe paired with an E5-4627 (v2) and the last, a ASROCK Extreme 3 paired with an E5-1660...that I will soon upgrade to an Asus Pro P9X79 paired with an E5-1650 (v2). The later upgrade...that ASUS I got for only EURO70 in a local deal. Frankly, I have been very pleased with the Huanan X79 system's performance over the last 9 months. Still, highly recommend a fan on its VRM heatsink for safe measure.
@@jb678901 did your board have heatsinks on it? If you aren't overclocking at all heatsinks are fine, also I use a fan/heatsink setup on the CPU where the fan blows down on the board to help with airflow onto the motherboard .
@@vipast6262 Yes, it is the Huanan DELUXE version, with the metal heatsinks on VRM and on the chipset. I have good airflow and did install an 80mm fan to blow over the VRM heatsink.
Great video - I have ordered this CPU, motherboard, some DDR3 RAM and a cooler (from AliExpress) to go with a Sapphire RX 570 8GB from eBay. Looking forward to building myself a decent PC soon!
@@Vielt0 - all running well in a CoolerMaster mid-tower ATX case with an Sabrent M.2 256GB NVME SSD on the motherboard (boot disk with Windows 10 Pro installed) and a 3.5" SATA 1TB Seagate Firecuda drive for additional storage (motherboard comes with a SATA cable). Very pleased with the end result.
I got the same 2689 after watching the videos of yours and Philscomputerlab. Together with an rx 580. Works so flawlessly. I can recommend it so much. If you wanna play modern games, and this is your budget? You will be amazed by how much you get
I have a Xeon X3470 ($28) paired with my RX 460 ($59) and 16GBs of ram ($27). She runs like a top for 1080p 60fps, and I'm selling in the Mobile area on CL right now for $180 to get a Ryzen system. Love your vids, they convinced me to get a Xeon system!
The guy who hosts the SecurityNow podcast has a free tool that lets you one click enable and disable the Spectre/meltdown mitigation (for CPU heavy workloads)
Ha! Just got my X79 board with the e2689 and 32 gigs of ram yesterday, installed ram heat spreaders and installed my Snowman cooler(my board came with a bracket that screwed in fine) have not installed or tested yet but am so hyped now and love that this came out at the same time!
Thanks for this video, and it started a nice experiment for me. I built this system for USD 190 (4 components) with e5-2689 on a X79 machinist (incl nvme slot) and a 6-copper-heatpipe CPU cooler and 4x8GB ecc ram in quad channel @3200 MT/s. The whole draws 350W through a platinum PSU and performs worse than AMD 1700. The latter costs twice the money but draws only half the power and has no risks of outdated drivers. I suppose moving towards AMD ryzen 1700 or 2600 is a better idea in ANY case.
@@NaderHue I suppose it is a nice experiment if you stumble upon 1 or more of the components for free (e5 2689 or Machinist mainboard or a bunch of ecc ram) but not in the long run. Yes move to 2600 or 1600AF on a B350 board.
@@randhisramiah5325 Excellent, yeah that snowman is fantastic. I hope your drivers can be updated and you will be able to pay for the electricity bill if you use your computer more than 4 hours a day.
If anyone wants to see another great take on this CPU do check Philscomputerlab, the guy made a lot of testing with these "X79" motherboards quite recently. Edit: apparently I got it right, I noticed that Machinist board some time ago in another video. Glad to see a test on it, I've been considering it.
I sold my loaded $1100 Ryzen 1700X / RX580 system for $1200 about 2 years ago. Jumped on ebay snagged HP Z420 workstation with Xeon 1650v2 6 core 12 thread, 32gb ddr3 1866 quad channel and no hhd or grphics card for $200. I got a 250gb Samsung 860EVO ssd for $60 and added my 2x 3tb NAS drives. Then recently added a XFX 5600xt $300. So for roughly $550 I got a machine that can do light video editing, handle multitasking, game 1080p ultra and 4k medium settings. I run the CPU stock 99% of the time but if I want can I use Intel XTU and Throttle Stop to push all 6 cores to 4.4ghz and then I think its close to Ryzen 2600x performance. Either way this PC seems just as fast at half the price. I bring this up because Linus just did a video on it. I didn't care the Z420 doesn't support m.2 because even though its faster in the benches in real time use most people will not notice the slight speed boost. Samsung ssd in rapid mode is plenty fast. MY budget advice find a xeon v2 workstation dell, hp, lenovo, for cheap slap a few parts in it, your good to go. I've built tons of computers since 1999 and recently just got tired of all the LED RGB blaa blaa and just wanted something cheap, fast and solid. These workstations are made to run 25/8 and built like tanks.
This channel brought my 12year old pc back to life! i7 920, gigabyte x58-ud5, radeon HD 5830. Bought xeon x5675, RX 580 and 27inch 165hz sceptre monitor feels way better! Thank you!
I'm loving my r5 3600 more cores than ive ever had, paired with a rx 570 4gb yeah my cards a bottleneck but it does great in games and when im ready a 5700xt will be a niice upgrade
Cool video. Watching this on my new to me main PC which is a Dell T3610 with an E5 2665. Loving this machine so far. Had to figure out how to remove a goofy metal GPU stabilizer on the case panel to fit my GPU but otherwise it was a breeze and pretty cheap and it is so quiet compared to my old machine. Might see if I can backlight the front panel or something fun just to give it some flare.
Same unit here. The corporation i work for donates these old workstations so I snagged one for myself. I just used my dremel to cut away the metal piece and my GPU fits fine. Im using this exact CPU (thanks to this video) and this thing flies.
Great Video I also purchased it preety cheep to upgrade from my i7 3820, I choose the e5 2689 due to phil's computer lab video also,although as I have an ASUS P9X79 Pro I got mine at 3.5GHZ all Core turbo with bckl at 106!
I'm using the X58 machine but also i'm trying to get a X79 machine. I'm just hunting on the local market to try this beast . Excellent vid as always !!!
hey bryan, check this out, i just saw a video of a youtuber that said they were able to flash a 5700 with a 5700xt bios. maybe you could try that and make a video out of it? so far they have only managed to do it with a reference card. it was only 3.5% slower than a real 5700xt.
@@franzb69 Well the thing is that with a bios flash you might screw up your card while OC'ing the new Ryzen and RX can't be more simple, so I really don't see the point. They are all so similar, that I'm sure that there are already sites that give you what exact numbers to put to get the most out of them, without having to waste 1-2 hours doing it yourself.
@@xingbairong that's why they've only done it with the reference versions. besides there are versions of the cards with a dual bios, just flash those and check it if it works. and also that's why i'm asking bryan coz he knows what he's doing. i've done it a few times before myself. fixed a few mining cards, put them back to stock and all that. it's not really that hard, at all. you just have to know what you're doing.
@@franzb69 just with my Vega 56. Oced to to a Vega 64 liquid. Works great. Voltages are down even from stock. Only voltages that are higher are for better memory oc. Which I'm tightening the timing on too :)
Hey since now you've been using it for 7 months, how satisfied are you? Bryan never talked about overclocking but in the benchmark he showed that he got 3.3ghz across all cores so what's that about? How the performance on your rig in editing videos and gaming? Also what about the temps?
no, it goes to show that programming is sooooooo far behind modern hardware. Going with a modern AMD chip or Intel chip does not make a difference. The GPU is almost always the bottleneck.
All this really goes to show is that with modern games using multithreading any cpu with decent thourghoput can be used for gaming even if its old. Really puts some perspective on what you actually need vs want for a gaming pc. Everyone out there arguing about intel vs amd and throwing cinebench scores around, but in reality any cpu with a passmark over 7000, regardless of core count or clockspeed, however it gets there is fine, has enough power to game at a level almost anyone would be happy with. GPU power requirements just keep raising but cpu requirements really dont that much.
Still can't believe the local recent purchase: An ASUS P9X79 Pro + i73820 + 32GB DDR3 non-EEC Hynix 1600 + Cooler master tower cooler. Swapped for my E5-1650 V2 and voila!!!! Runs fast and cool. I run with 43x multiplier and it turbos to 4.4Ghz. Sell the i7 for about 70 and the motherboard cost me only about 20 to 30 dollars. That'll do pig, that'll do!
@@Neggy-Z Well where do those come from then? Intel's not making them afaik, so either there's a pile of old chipsets laying around, or they're being pulled from old boards? I supposed they could be new chipsets made either under Intel license or illegally made using copies of the old IC masks.
Bryan, good day mate!! Firstly, I’m a Tech Yes Citizen and I love your channel! I have a question. If if have the 2015 Windows 10 ISO and install it, then didn’t do any updates, would that cause my Xeon to be unaffected?
Is the m.2 on this mobo nvme? x4 or x2? Please I need to know. Also I would love to see e5-2689 vs ryzen 2700/3700x vs 9900k but all with 1080ti/2080ti. Its hard choice of value vs longevity.
@@gokaykutlutwitch oh that's a bit more expensive at 120$ on ebay for me. But if you really wanted nvme its probably worth it. It's wild that nvme a new technology is on a year 2011 SERVER socket 😂
that cpu looks really cool, but now w/ pandemic takes 5 weeks for shipping, but then I live in US, thinking this is the way to go for an iTX case, thanks! did x58 and now another computer w/ the x79 chipset.
This might not be the best idea to do. Long-term, the security flaws that are being mitigated by those patches will cause security problems. I guess if you're not worried about that or are not on a network and practice some safe usage of the internet, you could be fine.
My budget build. (So far. Just literally started working on it this month.) I bought a used 2007 Hp pavilion, took out the stock Ram, and bumped it from gddr2 2gb, to 16gb of gddr3 with the 580mb of dedicated Vram cache. Swapped out the power supply, and upgraded to a 2 Tb Hybrid Drive. This thing actually crushes everything Except the new No-mans sky. Despite having a 4 core Amd Radion Hd6530D cpu/gpu combo. All together it cost me 180$.
I bought this cpu about 6 months ago, paired it with a jingsha x79-p3, put 16gb (4x4) of ecc ram and a rx 5600xt. Im currently struggling to find my next upgrade. I mean, any upgrade would have to be an eight core otherwise i dont consider it an upgrade but any new 8 core build will probably cost me over $2500 CAD so I might be on this system for a good while lol. Not that I'm complaining, this system performs amazingly. The only thing I had any issue with in this build was the graphics card surprisingly, it was a pre-owned review sample with a bad vbios installed on it, but since I reflashed it, I've had no issues.
Nick Sometimes the nonbranded x79’s on Ali are basically the same as the PlexHD board. They all kinda get flashed with the same bios and will operate similarly.
God i love your chan, i discovered the X58 xeons here and still use/love then since...as a noob though...i looked for several X79 mtb and most of them don't include this xeon in their compatible list, it's always xeon, like, E5-xxxx V2...i must admit i'm a little lost, could you male like an in debt video on the X79? anyway thx for the vid as always
I just got a E5 2651 v2 for my x79 system. The 3930k isnt cutting it for my surveillance machine. With 4, 1440p cameras, it can peg it out. Hoping the 2651 with 12 cores, can handle it with ease, and take half the power...
Disabling meltdown and specter protection really puts you at risk though now that everyone knows about it and writing code to take advantage of those that disable the protection.
the specture and meltdown are just temporary fixes anyway and you have to be very specifically targeted to be attacked which never happens unless its a server build and why he said best not too in that case
This channel is so fucking necessary! Anyone who is looking to get into PC building needs to watch A LOT of your content first. Not only is incredible frames per dollar possible, but buying old used parts is excellent for beginning rig builders in case they wreck something. Why this channel doesn't have a million+ subs I dunno.
Great video as always! Do the spectre and meltdown mitigations affect all the xeons? I just made a build with e3 1270 v2 should I disable the updates as shown in your video? Thanks!!!
@@mr_robot5821 Hi , I didn't bother to remove the spectre and meltdown updates the build I made was with an Rx 580 and there was still headroom with the cpu so I just left it as is
@@nostrahazer8970 Ghostbusters Remix. Just because the artist may have the permissions to make and release the music does not mean that people on RUclips have the right to use it. For example Tipster on his channel used a remix with direct permission from the artist that used several samples, but the song had Nate Dogg saying "Hold Up" that was recognizable as him. Tipster used the music as his Intro, and therefore they copyright claimed almost every video he did for years and he had to go back and cut it out and get a new theme. The other option they had was to Copyright Strike his channel and by the third video he would have to appeal or lose his channel and right to own one on RUclips period. By Copyright Claiming they could take any undelivered proceeds from those videos and any future proceeds unless he removed the video. In this case if claimed TYC may have a chance to appeal it though as he could say the work was being used in parody/satire of eliminating the protections against Spectre and Meltdown with the lyrics "I aint afraid of no ghosts", but it would be an opinion thing on RUclips's part.
Damn man these old xeons definitely got at least 3 more years in them maybe even more! Great to see old hardware being used instead of being thrown away.
I knew somebody would scream in panic about the security issues. Newsflash, avg joes or ordinary users do not need to fear those security issues as they are vulnerable for so much more crap out there like scripts and so on through web browsers that the spectre/meltdown issues are not a real issue as they are more of a security issue for companies to worry about.
No such thing, people are still distrought on how their 1st gen Ryzen now has barely any value (1800X can cost as low as $200 now, it was originally $500 USD). I barely see anyone selling their 1700 lower than $200, even if its value is around a little higher than an FX 8 now
I had an old AMD APU and needed an upgrade, but upgrading to a Ryzen was expensive for me because I needed to buy motherboard and ram along with the new processor. I went instead for a combo of one of this chinese motherboards with a E5-2689 with 32 GB of ram, ended up spending less than 180 USD and got a nice upgrade. Running smooth for 2 months now.
No its not better than 3rd gen ryzen, not even better than 2nd gen ryzen but yes it is a better value. However keep in mind this test is GPU bottlenecked since he tested with RX 5700XT at very high or ultra setting, if he use 2080 TI or above then the difference will be massive, and the worst thing is you will be locked on that old platform.
Hey, Bryan. Thank you for these videos. I am glad you keep posting about older hardware. We can see how it's still useful depending on our workloads. I enjoyed your story to show us why you went down this road to build this older X79 machine. (:
@@ByGraceThroughFaith777 Also not sure I'd call it "investing" when for the same or less money one can get 4 more cores and 8 more threads from AMD with basically the same IPC, without the need for lunatic cooling to extract the potential performance. For any given real world typical gaming budget, the 9900K makes little sense; buy something cheaper, use the cost difference to get a better GPU, used or otherwise. Also, how exactly is the XT "bottlenecking" the 9900K? That's the wrong way round to think about a gaming task as it implies the CPU should be showing greater usage than it is, which isn't true. One primarily cares about getting the most out of the GPU, ie. for a *game*, all that matters is whether the GPU is going as fast as it can (for benchmarking anyway; for real play it's whether it's going as fast as we need it to), and what this shows is that one just doesn't need (indeed one shouldn't need) a top-end CPU to game well. For a modern game using today's APIs, one ought to be very concerned if a CPU like the 9900K is being pushed flat out, because such behaviour would imply a very poorly coded game. A powerful CPU running with high usage for a modern game is not a +ve thing. Where that performance headroom comes in far more useful is coping with the fact that real world systems don't just game; people stream, record, encode, have other stuff going on in the background like AV checks, they're running Windows setups that are old and a bit degraded, etc. GN showed this when they compared Ryzen 1700 to a 7700K for game streaming way back and they were only testing with clean builds.
@@mapesdhs597 a CPU with so many threads is never at 100% because no game uses all threads at once. To truly see the pure gaming performance of the Xeon and the 9900k, one has to eliminate the GPU bottleneck and use a 2080Ti. I am sure that if both CPUs were tested with a 2080Ti, the 9900k would be far ahead the Xeon. In any case, I fully see the point behind the video and I am sure that this is valid for many. however, I doubt that someone on such a strict budget to consider investing in an x75 platform in 2019, would buy a $400 GPU. They would probably look for a 900 series or at best, a 580.
another point - I also don't think it's wise to disable the fixes for spectre etc - especially since most users getting a xeon would have productivity in mind. And not disabling them would bring in the 'slugitis' back :)
I ordered an E5-2658 8-core a few days back for a build I'm trying. $30 shipped from eBay. I hope it works out. The motherboard I ordered supposedly supports it. Got it for $30 too. Waiting on everything to arrive. Total build cost will be around $130 for my rig and it will be a major upgrade to my current setup. I'm used to playing games with 30-40FPS lol
Sorry yall didn't add the patches and reg edit fixes in desc. Will do that later. Just docked in Japan. Mega hustle incoming BTW.
For all Intel chips?
I have the Xeon e5-2690 in my work station/gaming machine paired with a GTX 1070 with Linux
i have 2 e5-2690 in my unraid server/ nas / gaming vm paired with gtx 980 ti kingpin .
@@magzire Just the slightly older CPUs, especially in Xeon and higher end desktop CPUs. GRC has a tool that is called InSpectre that will tell you if it is affecting your CPU you can download for free and do a partial disable.
In short some years back CPUs started using code to make educated guesses at what would be executed on it next, and would preload some of them and if it was right it would execute that saving allot of time by being more efficient. AMD and Intel both did it, but Intel was more aggressive with it.
Then some smart security researches after coming up with some impressive RAM security hacks, wondered if they could do similar stuff with Speculative Execution and called it Spectre, and that lead to another weakness, and another and another going back for the better part of a decade. AMD was affected by some of the first stuff, but much of the later stuff depended on Intel's more aggressive versions of it that AMD didn't use.
The only fix was to turn it off, so the tech making the chips fast and powerful was gutted. Game servers all over the place that were "good enough" suddenly were staining. In some rare cases certain game servers lost over 45% or their performance overnight.
The good thing is that there has been no uses of these exploits showing up in the wild and as of now, all of them require hardware access to the computer to use it. In most cases if you turn it off you will be fine. Also allot of the performance issues with server software was fixed by tweaking the software, but there is still almost an average of 20% performance hit compared to before.
I have the patches on my AMD CPU disabled, but only see a small difference, your results may vary.
Awesome, Good luck.
Love it! Xeon for life : D
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I knew you were going to appear around here :D.
Hey Phil i watch your videos as well.. you guys are just great.
@Jay Arre If people actually knew how difficult it was to exploit those no one would care.
@Jay Arre can't wait for Chinese AMD epyc motherboards in 2030 XD
All I’m gonna say is this cpu ain’t gonna be 53 dollars for too long
Well its on aliexpress for so long time, just people are not aware of it. Shame that today people dont do research by themselves instead of waiting for yt to bring it up
people say the same thing about every tech video. this cpu has been readily available forever, and if you want to use a decent board its not cost efficient over ryzen.
@@D-2-the-no over 3600 ryzen or 2600
@@monsterzero9456 1600
@@monsterzero9456 a 2600 set up with board and ram in the uk is £300. £370 with a 3600. these older xeon boards are circa £150. i know because i run a xeon setup but i use a non oc board. with an oc p6t asus board itd have set me back £250 with ram and cpu, so not worth it.
Good old Xeons. Gotta love X79 xeons! 😎 Tech yes Citizen right here approving of this Xeon comparison
OM STUDIO ofc they do? 🤨🧐
@@OM-jc9mh ddr3 in quad channel? Heck no!
Im a simple man. I see x58/x79, i press like.
Let's hope that soon we'll see x99 in that mix as well.
@@rhyzon taobao has x99 boards for 50$ and up but cpus are still expensive
@@kruxdt6307 I already saw some that look pretty good on AliExpress, but the CPU prices still keep me away from it. Also, the motherboards that look decent are all 100€ and up, so not really worth it.
@@kruxdt6307 some x99 boards can use ddr3 ecc, instead of ddr4.
@@polentusmax6100 yeah ive seen one
2:12 I smell a Taiwan Repair coming along! $15 for a dead board, $53 for the CPU, I see a $100 octacore rockin banga' comin along! Potato this ain't!
Hmmm she got legs and can compete. Not potatoes
Marco!
@@SirNickyT Sir Nicholas!
@@MarcoGPUtuber 🤣😂
Marco yes
Heyyy, amazing timing. I just bought a bundle with e5 2689 32gb ram and a Plex hd motherboard for $303 AUD including taxes and shipping
No delivery to germany :(
@@OM-jc9mh if you use ddr3 memory in quad channel, you should get about the same bandwidth as a decent dual channel ddr4 kit. In this case, ddr3 shouldn't matter too much for gaming
@@Nick-ov8ed very unfortunate
@@OM-jc9mh Correct. DDR3-1866 in quad channel is just as fast as DDR4-3733 in dual channel. DDR3 also has less latency than DDR4.
@@anmolsaxena_ don't forget that the latencies are usually lower in DDR3, so it should surpass DDR4 in most cases.
Nice to see the old Xeon's getting so much love.I have 4x xeons myself.I use 1 of my servers as a storage server and it runs like a baws.
tfw when 80$ mystery Chinese motherboards have better mosfet heatsinks than 400$ first tier manufacturer boards
*CHINA NUMBER ONE!!!*
@@grlmgor ruclips.net/video/L3tnH4FGbd0/видео.html
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HK ppl don't trust America, America is ass-ho
@@eug3nius Yet HK people are holding up american flags, wishing for America to help them? Singing the national anthem, saying they wish they had a 2nd amendment
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That’s why I said that. America doesn’t give a crap about HK ppl, to the American elite they’re just geopolitical pawns in the conflict with a rival empire. Just like the Ukrainians were.
Phil's channel is great. I see Phil everywhere lately, in other channels, like LGR, in online forums, and even in posts of products for sale that he reviewed and the sellers use his videos! A few days ago I bought a retro soundcard and in the post there were photos and a Video from Phil's channel. On ebay looking for a Gotek Floppy Emulator, there was also a video of Phil. This shows that he covers many interesting topics and that it is doing a very good job.
Brian spreading thermal paste using his bare hand while "I Wish That I Was a Mad Man" playing in the background is the best thing I've seen & heard today.
Ever since watching his videos I spread tim using my finger and see no difference. it only matters if going sub zero. then the oils from your hands can present problems.
@@maynardcrow6447 I guess canadians cant use their finger then
@@iiiiii7680 nope. That means Timmy Joes not aloud to finger the TIM.
Great, I'll get that song now
Some thermal paste is poisonous, I not sure about the stuff we use but most industrial paste is not something you don't want on your finger .
Thank you so much for the help with the 570s. Ill be trying to flash them today. I also really appreciate you helping get the most out of some of this older tech. You have been a real inspiration to me in a time when I really needed it.
I installed an E5-4627 (V2) 3.3 Ghz base clock (that turbos on all cores to 3.5Ghz), 8C/8T (no HT!); has run cool and successfully on HuananZhi X79 deluxe, paired with GTX 980 and 32GB DDR3 1600 REEC, it scores on CB: R15 =965, R20=2060. I got it for $80 plus $14 shipping via eBay. Not too bad, not bad at all.
Amazing performance out of a x79 Xeon. I just decked out my x58 dell rig. I just added a 2nd 5675 and 8 GB more of RAM to 24GB of RAM and a GTX 1660. I may try out those spectre and meltdown registry entries at a later time.
"I can't find any good deals on used 1st gen ryzen GPU's "
*ryzen 7 1700x for 83 bucks goes cross the screen*
Thats bid dude. You never get bid. It will go to 130
Where the fuck you can find a ryzen for 83$
@@renegade25_banhammertech_40 You can get a Ryzen 2600 for 97€ on Aliexpress:
fr.aliexpress.com/item/33031973977.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000014.9.2784173dCL90qd&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.13338.146400.0&scm_id=1007.13338.146400.0&scm-url=1007.13338.146400.0&pvid=7a326ab2-f944-41ba-86d5-66a251540ff9&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller,scm-url:1007.13338.146400.0,pvid:7a326ab2-f944-41ba-86d5-66a251540ff9,tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%2318_668%23808%234093%23793_668%23888%233325%2320
@@renegade25_banhammertech_40 now you can get ryzen 5 1600af 6 cores 12 threads, for 85$ but due to some reasons it has risen to 150, will drop in some time.
@@term6221 it has RYZEN to 150 xdddd
This makes me depressed bc of how much i spent on my pc, performing wayyyy worse
What is your PC spec's, just curious?
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp I bet he has a gtx 660 paired with a 9900k
@@filetsteak5677 Oof.. I'd Lmao...
@@filetsteak5677 gt710
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp that would be fucking terrible 😂
I picked up a 2689 with ASUS Sabertooth X79, 48GB DDR3, 2 WD Blue 500GB HDDs, Corsair H60 liquid cooler w/fan - all for $225 about 6 months ago! It absolutely flies! Love it!
I recently bought for 56.55 USD, 2 Xeon X5675 6-Core 12-Thread 95W for my HP Z600 Workstation (Server). 👍
I just placed an order for it this month, may I ask, are you still using it nowdays?
Wow, that cpu is made from my country!!!
Thanks very much for sharing this video Bryan!!
Greetings from Costa Rica!
*Keep it up!*
What? It's from Aliexpress, it's from China.
@ugaaa5 yes! Look at the cpu label
@@CYC_JP yes, but is made from Costa Rica
@ugaaa5 Designed not but assembled
Made in Costa Rica
Sold in China
9900k: *exists*
E5-2689: Go home G.I !!
This is the processor I got for my brother's setup. Works great I bought a used workstation and paired it with a gtx 1060 for a great cheap build.
Just built my e5-2690 build and loving it. Love these videos.
what is the core speed, can you unlock it so it goes to 3.6 mhz?
I had this exact same CPU + motherboard combination and two GTX 960 4gb running in SLI (I had them around collecting dust so I used them), definitely not very power efficient but gets job done very well. Consumer grade i7 does gaming better though imo
How was the SLI life?
Bro you are the Xeon King! Plus that Ghostbusters theme and plug was dope man! I gotta learn how to disable spectere and meltdown also, I see it yields high results. Solid man 💪🏾
i'm pretty sure intel hates this dude lol
They hate me too--you'd be shocked how many x58 x79 4.2 to 4.6 xeons I have going strong 12 years later lol.
@@formdoggie5 make a mining rig out of every single one of them, u'll be rich in one day lol
@@francescovolpini people still mine?
@@Cenzurat surprisingly some still do. this is because they've still got hardware and they cannot sell it for a good price
i mean it's not like a lot of people on a tight budget will switch to intel/amd current gen production if they somehow shut down the cheap xeons... people with small budget will just be left with nothing or something like 2c/4t pentiums
Purchased Used Thinkstation P500 E5-1650v3 and Matched with RX 5700XT.
I am so gladed I watched your video.
The workstation was experiencing stuttering and freeze during normal operation or shutdown.
I did lasted BIOS Update and your Spectre Regedit.
I am still monitoring my workstation hoping that it does not froze.
After the Regedit, It's been consistent.
Thank you.
I built 6 systems using this setup with a different aliexpress board, and the results have been phenomenal. All my kids have this setup with 32gb Quad Channel, 2060s , e5 2689, 1gb nvme.. and they all stream with no FPS loss. Also, there is a Russian modified bios out , for the board I use to allow overclocking on the board , and boost performance a little more, or use unlocked xeons to really overclock.
I built/modified three platforms for myself and my two kids. One, a Dell Precision T5600 dual E5-2667, one HuananZhi X79 deluxe paired with an E5-4627 (v2) and the last, a ASROCK Extreme 3 paired with an E5-1660...that I will soon upgrade to an Asus Pro P9X79 paired with an E5-1650 (v2). The later upgrade...that ASUS I got for only EURO70 in a local deal. Frankly, I have been very pleased with the Huanan X79 system's performance over the last 9 months. Still, highly recommend a fan on its VRM heatsink for safe measure.
@@jb678901 did your board have heatsinks on it? If you aren't overclocking at all heatsinks are fine, also I use a fan/heatsink setup on the CPU where the fan blows down on the board to help with airflow onto the motherboard .
@@vipast6262 Yes, it is the Huanan DELUXE version, with the metal heatsinks on VRM and on the chipset. I have good airflow and did install an 80mm fan to blow over the VRM heatsink.
Great video - I have ordered this CPU, motherboard, some DDR3 RAM and a cooler (from AliExpress) to go with a Sapphire RX 570 8GB from eBay. Looking forward to building myself a decent PC soon!
Plase tell me how it runs.
@@Vielt0 - all running well in a CoolerMaster mid-tower ATX case with an Sabrent M.2 256GB NVME SSD on the motherboard (boot disk with Windows 10 Pro installed) and a 3.5" SATA 1TB Seagate Firecuda drive for additional storage (motherboard comes with a SATA cable). Very pleased with the end result.
musicdaily123 hi - it runs an Amiga emulator very well. Are you talking about Switch or Wii-U emulation?
musicdaily123 if I can get Switch emulation running I’ll let you know how it is
Who you gonna call! Tech YES!
I need to buy a bangin' gamin' PC this afternoon, do you deliver?
How many FPS are you looking for?
@@Kenny_Ded Over 9000!
How about 3000
@@Kenny_Ded I look for 1 fps how much gaming can I get for a dollar?
@@iiiiii7680 1 FPS is easy. Just run Crysis. Is it a AUS or a US dollar?
Great comparison! Thank you for pairing this with the 5700XT! Greets from USA.
Hey, it is 35 years anniversary Ghost Buster this year!!! Brian you are awesome, you made my day with this song
I got the same 2689 after watching the videos of yours and Philscomputerlab. Together with an rx 580. Works so flawlessly.
I can recommend it so much. If you wanna play modern games, and this is your budget? You will be amazed by how much you get
does it need to be overclocked to play flawlessly? im new to pc building and i might consider this for my first build.
Slug-Itis sounds like something taken straight from Futurama. :D
I have a Xeon X3470 ($28) paired with my RX 460 ($59) and 16GBs of ram ($27). She runs like a top for 1080p 60fps, and I'm selling in the Mobile area on CL right now for $180 to get a Ryzen system. Love your vids, they convinced me to get a Xeon system!
The guy who hosts the SecurityNow podcast has a free tool that lets you one click enable and disable the Spectre/meltdown mitigation (for CPU heavy workloads)
Where can I find this tool?
@@eazen iirc it's called InSpectre
Ha! Just got my X79 board with the e2689 and 32 gigs of ram yesterday, installed ram heat spreaders and installed my Snowman cooler(my board came with a bracket that screwed in fine) have not installed or tested yet but am so hyped now and love that this came out at the same time!
Please do a vid on comparing different X79 motherboard brands from AliExpress.
I concur!
Yes!!
Thanks for this video, and it started a nice experiment for me. I built this system for USD 190 (4 components) with e5-2689 on a X79 machinist (incl nvme slot) and a 6-copper-heatpipe CPU cooler and 4x8GB ecc ram in quad channel @3200 MT/s. The whole draws 350W through a platinum PSU and performs worse than AMD 1700. The latter costs twice the money but draws only half the power and has no risks of outdated drivers. I suppose moving towards AMD ryzen 1700 or 2600 is a better idea in ANY case.
so, e5 2689 with the powershell method are worse than a ryzen 2600?
@@NaderHue I suppose it is a nice experiment if you stumble upon 1 or more of the components for free (e5 2689 or Machinist mainboard or a bunch of ecc ram) but not in the long run. Yes move to 2600 or 1600AF on a B350 board.
It only cost me $100 including snowman 6heatpipe dual fan cooler. I live at Malaysia.
@@randhisramiah5325 Excellent, yeah that snowman is fantastic. I hope your drivers can be updated and you will be able to pay for the electricity bill if you use your computer more than 4 hours a day.
If anyone wants to see another great take on this CPU do check Philscomputerlab, the guy made a lot of testing with these "X79" motherboards quite recently.
Edit: apparently I got it right, I noticed that Machinist board some time ago in another video. Glad to see a test on it, I've been considering it.
Thanks! Those are very informative.
Not sure how you missed it, but Tech YES said he found out about this CPU through Philscomputerlab. @ 1:23 and another thank you @ 12:38
@@HazewinDog That's what you get when you comment first and watch later xD.
@@rhyzon ah, haha
I sold my loaded $1100 Ryzen 1700X / RX580 system for $1200 about 2 years ago. Jumped on ebay snagged HP Z420 workstation with Xeon 1650v2 6 core 12 thread, 32gb ddr3 1866 quad channel and no hhd or grphics card for $200. I got a 250gb Samsung 860EVO ssd for $60 and added my 2x 3tb NAS drives. Then recently added a XFX 5600xt $300. So for roughly $550 I got a machine that can do light video editing, handle multitasking, game 1080p ultra and 4k medium settings. I run the CPU stock 99% of the time but if I want can I use Intel XTU and Throttle Stop to push all 6 cores to 4.4ghz and then I think its close to Ryzen 2600x performance. Either way this PC seems just as fast at half the price. I bring this up because Linus just did a video on it. I didn't care the Z420 doesn't support m.2 because even though its faster in the benches in real time use most people will not notice the slight speed boost. Samsung ssd in rapid mode is plenty fast. MY budget advice find a xeon v2 workstation dell, hp, lenovo, for cheap slap a few parts in it, your good to go. I've built tons of computers since 1999 and recently just got tired of all the LED RGB blaa blaa and just wanted something cheap, fast and solid. These workstations are made to run 25/8 and built like tanks.
I LOVE YOU BRYAN ❤💜💖😭 finally a 2689 video! :')
This channel brought my 12year old pc back to life! i7 920, gigabyte x58-ud5, radeon HD 5830. Bought xeon x5675, RX 580 and 27inch 165hz sceptre monitor feels way better! Thank you!
I'm loving my r5 3600 more cores than ive ever had, paired with a rx 570 4gb yeah my cards a bottleneck but it does great in games and when im ready a 5700xt will be a niice upgrade
Cool video. Watching this on my new to me main PC which is a Dell T3610 with an E5 2665. Loving this machine so far. Had to figure out how to remove a goofy metal GPU stabilizer on the case panel to fit my GPU but otherwise it was a breeze and pretty cheap and it is so quiet compared to my old machine. Might see if I can backlight the front panel or something fun just to give it some flare.
Same unit here. The corporation i work for donates these old workstations so I snagged one for myself. I just used my dremel to cut away the metal piece and my GPU fits fine. Im using this exact CPU (thanks to this video) and this thing flies.
3:44 this device is called - "thermal paste applicator"
Best way to apply
screw with confidence
Great Video I also purchased it preety cheep to upgrade from my i7 3820, I choose the e5 2689 due to phil's computer lab video also,although as I have an ASUS P9X79 Pro I got mine at 3.5GHZ all Core turbo with bckl at 106!
This is amazing thank you so much dude 👍🏽
I'm using the X58 machine but also i'm trying to get a X79 machine. I'm just hunting on the local market to try this beast . Excellent vid as always !!!
hey bryan, check this out, i just saw a video of a youtuber that said they were able to flash a 5700 with a 5700xt bios. maybe you could try that and make a video out of it? so far they have only managed to do it with a reference card. it was only 3.5% slower than a real 5700xt.
Generally you can OC an 5700 to stock 5700XT. Was it 3.5% slower than a stock XT or OC'ed XT?
@@xingbairong stock XT. But here's the thing, with a simple bios flash you don't have to do all that. You just have to flash it.
@@franzb69 Well the thing is that with a bios flash you might screw up your card while OC'ing the new Ryzen and RX can't be more simple, so I really don't see the point. They are all so similar, that I'm sure that there are already sites that give you what exact numbers to put to get the most out of them, without having to waste 1-2 hours doing it yourself.
@@xingbairong that's why they've only done it with the reference versions. besides there are versions of the cards with a dual bios, just flash those and check it if it works. and also that's why i'm asking bryan coz he knows what he's doing. i've done it a few times before myself. fixed a few mining cards, put them back to stock and all that.
it's not really that hard, at all. you just have to know what you're doing.
@@franzb69 just with my Vega 56. Oced to to a Vega 64 liquid. Works great. Voltages are down even from stock. Only voltages that are higher are for better memory oc. Which I'm tightening the timing on too :)
These Xeon just won’t die! I have an old tower server E5520 and it can compete with an i7-3770 in multiple cores but it can accept much more ram.
Using it for 1month love it. Recommended
Hey since now you've been using it for 7 months, how satisfied are you?
Bryan never talked about overclocking but in the benchmark he showed that he got 3.3ghz across all cores so what's that about?
How the performance on your rig in editing videos and gaming?
Also what about the temps?
Yet another great video, loved the ghostbusters transition!
This goes to show that intel has been holding out FOR YEARSSSSSSSS.
no, it goes to show that programming is sooooooo far behind modern hardware. Going with a modern AMD chip or Intel chip does not make a difference. The GPU is almost always the bottleneck.
So many people are drawing false conclusions from this video.
Server loads demanded it far longer.
All this really goes to show is that with modern games using multithreading any cpu with decent thourghoput can be used for gaming even if its old. Really puts some perspective on what you actually need vs want for a gaming pc. Everyone out there arguing about intel vs amd and throwing cinebench scores around, but in reality any cpu with a passmark over 7000, regardless of core count or clockspeed, however it gets there is fine, has enough power to game at a level almost anyone would be happy with. GPU power requirements just keep raising but cpu requirements really dont that much.
@@eclipsegst9419 exactly so.
Excellent research, I've been pushing paper on these numbers... Considering and revising a strategy for a build..this was great.
Wow its old... it performs admirably... and proof that intel newer proc is ripping ppl off
Yeah unless you have a 2080 ti you dont need an ultra powerful CPU, unless you're doing CPU intensive stuff
Technically this video isn't a proof for that, but you are still right
watts consumption and temperature dropped significantly tho
@@asesinocereal true, but so has AMD, and theyve greatly increased performance
@@asesinocereal The Xeon E5-2689 vs the i7 8700:
www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-Xeon-E5-2689-vs-Intel-i7-8700/1881vs3099 *^_^*
thank to you i can now upgrade. Subscribed
The used 8 core Ryzen market is a bit lean because they are so good.
Still can't believe the local recent purchase: An ASUS P9X79 Pro + i73820 + 32GB DDR3 non-EEC Hynix 1600 + Cooler master tower cooler. Swapped for my E5-1650 V2 and voila!!!! Runs fast and cool. I run with 43x multiplier and it turbos to 4.4Ghz. Sell the i7 for about 70 and the motherboard cost me only about 20 to 30 dollars. That'll do pig, that'll do!
So what's the deal with these new X79 mobos? Are they made using X79 chipsets pulled off retired servers in for recycling?
Nah it's b7x,c2xx something else like all others
I guess you didn't watch the whole vid? Since Brian says its actually a H67 chipset.
@@Neggy-Z yea im still watch vid. Forgot about h chipset.
@@Neggy-Z but as far i know there is no real x79 chipsets on chinese mobos
@@Neggy-Z Well where do those come from then? Intel's not making them afaik, so either there's a pile of old chipsets laying around, or they're being pulled from old boards? I supposed they could be new chipsets made either under Intel license or illegally made using copies of the old IC masks.
Nice video and helpful info about spectre and meltdown crap updates. I cant wait to try this evening to my pc!
How many watts
is the power supply for this project, I will build a PC with these specifications and a GTX 1080.
Bryan, good day mate!! Firstly, I’m a Tech Yes Citizen and I love your channel! I have a question. If if have the 2015 Windows 10 ISO and install it, then didn’t do any updates, would that cause my Xeon to be unaffected?
Is the m.2 on this mobo nvme? x4 or x2? Please I need to know.
Also I would love to see e5-2689 vs ryzen 2700/3700x vs 9900k but all with 1080ti/2080ti.
Its hard choice of value vs longevity.
I'm also wanting to know this stuff
@@gokaykutlutwitch oh that's a bit more expensive at 120$ on ebay for me. But if you really wanted nvme its probably worth it. It's wild that nvme a new technology is on a year 2011 SERVER socket 😂
Is the E5-2689 for 20 € more worth to buy?
You are great for doing these kind of things
Keep on mate
Thx!!!
where are the links for the reg changes ?
support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4072698/windows-server-speculative-execution-side-channel-vulnerabilities-prot
To disable mitigations for CVE-2017-5715 (Spectre Variant 2) and CVE-2017-5754 (Meltdown)
reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 3 /f
reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverrideMask /t REG_DWORD /d 3 /f
Restart the computer for the changes to take effect.
use the inspectre application
that cpu looks really cool, but now w/ pandemic takes 5 weeks for shipping, but then I live in US, thinking this is the way to go for an iTX case, thanks! did x58 and now another computer w/ the x79 chipset.
Would you share the regedits for disabling Meltdown / Spectre Microcode?
This might not be the best idea to do. Long-term, the security flaws that are being mitigated by those patches will cause security problems. I guess if you're not worried about that or are not on a network and practice some safe usage of the internet, you could be fine.
My budget build. (So far. Just literally started working on it this month.)
I bought a used 2007 Hp pavilion, took out the stock Ram, and bumped it from gddr2 2gb, to 16gb of gddr3 with the 580mb of dedicated Vram cache.
Swapped out the power supply, and upgraded to a 2 Tb Hybrid Drive.
This thing actually crushes everything Except the new No-mans sky. Despite having a 4 core Amd Radion Hd6530D cpu/gpu combo.
All together it cost me 180$.
Great video. Where is the link for disabling spectre?
I know right! was wondering the same thing.
support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4072698/windows-server-speculative-execution-side-channel-vulnerabilities-prot
To disable mitigations for CVE-2017-5715 (Spectre Variant 2) and CVE-2017-5754 (Meltdown)
reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverride /t REG_DWORD /d 3 /f
reg add "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management" /v FeatureSettingsOverrideMask /t REG_DWORD /d 3 /f
Restart the computer for the changes to take effect.
Download, right click on it, and run it as an Administrator.
www.grc.com/inspectre.htm
I bought this cpu about 6 months ago, paired it with a jingsha x79-p3, put 16gb (4x4) of ecc ram and a rx 5600xt. Im currently struggling to find my next upgrade. I mean, any upgrade would have to be an eight core otherwise i dont consider it an upgrade but any new 8 core build will probably cost me over $2500 CAD so I might be on this system for a good while lol. Not that I'm complaining, this system performs amazingly. The only thing I had any issue with in this build was the graphics card surprisingly, it was a pre-owned review sample with a bad vbios installed on it, but since I reflashed it, I've had no issues.
What kinds of issues?
But you didn't answer the real question tho:
Can it run crysis?
Not very good, because crysis scales with clockspeed, not cores
@@dabigbadwolf5081 it's an old joke
More like, can it run minesweeper at 4k?
Really good video as always
Nick Sometimes the nonbranded x79’s on Ali are basically the same as the PlexHD board. They all kinda get flashed with the same bios and will operate similarly.
@@poopdogg666 Thanks
Hahaha the e5-2689 prices are actually rising!
Aliexpress sellers are hiking the prices but in taobao it didn't go up
@@kruxdt6307 Taobao? is that website offer world wide shpping?
God i love your chan, i discovered the X58 xeons here and still use/love then since...as a noob though...i looked for several X79 mtb and most of them don't include this xeon in their compatible list, it's always xeon, like, E5-xxxx V2...i must admit i'm a little lost, could you male like an in debt video on the X79? anyway thx for the vid as always
Check Phil computer lab he made an indepth video on Chinese x79
He completely forgot to post the Reg Commands in the Description :(
I just got a E5 2651 v2 for my x79 system. The 3930k isnt cutting it for my surveillance machine. With 4, 1440p cameras, it can peg it out. Hoping the 2651 with 12 cores, can handle it with ease, and take half the power...
forgot to add, 85 bucks shipped to the US from China
When you purchased a 1200$ gaming and streaming PC, then this suddenly shows up! I hurt my eyes and my wallet ! My goodness! 😒😒
hello sir, great video and shocking results, didn't expected... So the Rx 5700xt can run with no UEFI bios?
index finger cooling compound spreader
Oh dear, all those 8 dislikes own a 9900k :D. Also, loved the Ghost Busters montage :). Nice video, thanks!
Disabling meltdown and specter protection really puts you at risk though now that everyone knows about it and writing code to take advantage of those that disable the protection.
the specture and meltdown are just temporary fixes anyway and you have to be very specifically targeted to be attacked which never happens unless its a server build and why he said best not too in that case
This channel is so fucking necessary! Anyone who is looking to get into PC building needs to watch A LOT of your content first. Not only is incredible frames per dollar possible, but buying old used parts is excellent for beginning rig builders in case they wreck something. Why this channel doesn't have a million+ subs I dunno.
Sea moss is just seaweed isn't it Bryan?
You are killing me. I've been itching to build an X99 system (as he types from his 3700x). Love the vids though.
I'd like to see how that xeon cpu runs the 5700xt at 1440p. The 5700xt is a overkill card for 1080p.
I want to see it tested with a RTX 2080 TI OC GPU
If you bump up the resolution you're testing the video card and not the xeon.
Great video as always!
Do the spectre and meltdown mitigations affect all the xeons? I just made a build with e3 1270 v2 should I disable the updates as shown in your video?
Thanks!!!
If you tried it then please share the results. Was there any increase in fps ?
@@mr_robot5821 Hi , I didn't bother to remove the spectre and meltdown updates the build I made was with an Rx 580 and there was still headroom with the cpu so I just left it as is
I smell a copyright strike incoming.
Yeah
Because of what?
@@nostrahazer8970 Ghostbusters Remix. Just because the artist may have the permissions to make and release the music does not mean that people on RUclips have the right to use it.
For example Tipster on his channel used a remix with direct permission from the artist that used several samples, but the song had Nate Dogg saying "Hold Up" that was recognizable as him. Tipster used the music as his Intro, and therefore they copyright claimed almost every video he did for years and he had to go back and cut it out and get a new theme. The other option they had was to Copyright Strike his channel and by the third video he would have to appeal or lose his channel and right to own one on RUclips period. By Copyright Claiming they could take any undelivered proceeds from those videos and any future proceeds unless he removed the video.
In this case if claimed TYC may have a chance to appeal it though as he could say the work was being used in parody/satire of eliminating the protections against Spectre and Meltdown with the lyrics "I aint afraid of no ghosts", but it would be an opinion thing on RUclips's part.
Damn man these old xeons definitely got at least 3 more years in them maybe even more! Great to see old hardware being used instead of being thrown away.
Or you can find a used R7 1700 B350 combo for 170$ instead
And don't have to worry abt all those security flaws
That would be very hard
I knew somebody would scream in panic about the security issues. Newsflash, avg joes or ordinary users do not need to fear those security issues as they are vulnerable for so much more crap out there like scripts and so on through web browsers that the spectre/meltdown issues are not a real issue as they are more of a security issue for companies to worry about.
We all know those 'security flaws' are nothing to be afraid of, as a home user.
They were pinpointed and hyped by AMD fanboys.
@@ares23dc basically lol
No such thing, people are still distrought on how their 1st gen Ryzen now has barely any value (1800X can cost as low as $200 now, it was originally $500 USD).
I barely see anyone selling their 1700 lower than $200, even if its value is around a little higher than an FX 8 now
I had an old AMD APU and needed an upgrade, but upgrading to a Ryzen was expensive for me because I needed to buy motherboard and ram along with the new processor. I went instead for a combo of one of this chinese motherboards with a E5-2689 with 32 GB of ram, ended up spending less than 180 USD and got a nice upgrade. Running smooth for 2 months now.
Just convinced me to get a top xeon cpu instead a ryzen 3° gen 😂😂😂
No its not better than 3rd gen ryzen, not even better than 2nd gen ryzen but yes it is a better value. However keep in mind this test is GPU bottlenecked since he tested with RX 5700XT at very high or ultra setting, if he use 2080 TI or above then the difference will be massive, and the worst thing is you will be locked on that old platform.
Great intro man!
i think the difference fps come from the ram type, ddr3 is slower than ddr4
Quad channel 16000mhz is about 3200 ddr4 in dual
But it's 1866 quad channel, it's 933x4 and gives a result of 3732 mhz.
It's more likely to be from the IPC difference. RAM speed really has little effect in gaming, and X79 has a lot more bandwidth to play with.
picked up this exact cpu and motherboard after watching this!
It's old so it has poor power efficiency . But perform well 😊
9900k at 5Ghz is eating his amount of power too, i'm not sur that the fps/W is that much different
Hey, Bryan. Thank you for these videos. I am glad you keep posting about older hardware. We can see how it's still useful depending on our workloads.
I enjoyed your story to show us why you went down this road to build this older X79 machine. (:
X5650 4.0GHz >>> E5-2689 i tested X5650 4.0 all way wins
What about premiere pro
Power hog and room heater lol
Great explanation 😊
Another conclusion - the 5700xt clearly bottlenecks the 9900k. But again, why would someone, investing in a 9900k, would pair it with a 5700xt?
For CPU intensive tasks, and to also play games.
@@ByGraceThroughFaith777 Also not sure I'd call it "investing" when for the same or less money one can get 4 more cores and 8 more threads from AMD with basically the same IPC, without the need for lunatic cooling to extract the potential performance. For any given real world typical gaming budget, the 9900K makes little sense; buy something cheaper, use the cost difference to get a better GPU, used or otherwise.
Also, how exactly is the XT "bottlenecking" the 9900K? That's the wrong way round to think about a gaming task as it implies the CPU should be showing greater usage than it is, which isn't true. One primarily cares about getting the most out of the GPU, ie. for a *game*, all that matters is whether the GPU is going as fast as it can (for benchmarking anyway; for real play it's whether it's going as fast as we need it to), and what this shows is that one just doesn't need (indeed one shouldn't need) a top-end CPU to game well.
For a modern game using today's APIs, one ought to be very concerned if a CPU like the 9900K is being pushed flat out, because such behaviour would imply a very poorly coded game. A powerful CPU running with high usage for a modern game is not a +ve thing. Where that performance headroom comes in far more useful is coping with the fact that real world systems don't just game; people stream, record, encode, have other stuff going on in the background like AV checks, they're running Windows setups that are old and a bit degraded, etc. GN showed this when they compared Ryzen 1700 to a 7700K for game streaming way back and they were only testing with clean builds.
@@ByGraceThroughFaith777 in that case, you'd better off going for a 3700
@@mapesdhs597 a CPU with so many threads is never at 100% because no game uses all threads at once. To truly see the pure gaming performance of the Xeon and the 9900k, one has to eliminate the GPU bottleneck and use a 2080Ti. I am sure that if both CPUs were tested with a 2080Ti, the 9900k would be far ahead the Xeon.
In any case, I fully see the point behind the video and I am sure that this is valid for many. however, I doubt that someone on such a strict budget to consider investing in an x75 platform in 2019, would buy a $400 GPU. They would probably look for a 900 series or at best, a 580.
another point - I also don't think it's wise to disable the fixes for spectre etc - especially since most users getting a xeon would have productivity in mind. And not disabling them would bring in the 'slugitis' back :)
I ordered an E5-2658 8-core a few days back for a build I'm trying. $30 shipped from eBay. I hope it works out. The motherboard I ordered supposedly supports it. Got it for $30 too. Waiting on everything to arrive. Total build cost will be around $130 for my rig and it will be a major upgrade to my current setup. I'm used to playing games with 30-40FPS lol